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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where our unrivaled

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Speaker 1: one v one brackets are totally busted. Should have been

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Speaker 1: on more bigs and fewer ball handlers. It's Thursday, February thirteenth,

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Speaker 1: and on today's show, we'll be talking to Congresswoman Laurie Trehan,

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Speaker 1: who represents Massachusetts third District in the US House of Representatives.

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Speaker 1: We'll discuss the bill she just reintroduced, how she's helping

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Speaker 1: lead the fight for the actual issues impacting women's sports,

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Speaker 1: and what it's like being the only former Division one

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Speaker 1: woman athlete currently in Congress. Plus Big Citrus weighs in

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Speaker 1: on the Unrivaled one v one tourney, a US Women's

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Speaker 1: a national team player who's finally Feeline Fine, and a

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Speaker 1: battle of ballers in SoCal.

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Speaker 2: It's all coming up right after this welcome back. Here's

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Speaker 2: what you need to know today.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Unrivaled, where the semi finals of the

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Speaker 1: one v one tournament are set. In one semi we've

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Speaker 1: got eight seed Aliah Edwards taking on number one seed

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Speaker 1: aric He Goombuale. Edwards advanced after pulling off the biggest

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Speaker 1: upset of round one, shutting out fellow Husky Miss BC

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Speaker 1: teammate and top turny seed Brianna Stewart on Monday Night

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Speaker 1: twelve nothing before she went on to defeat Ali Chagra

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Speaker 1: in the quarterfinals on Tuesday. Semi finals are nearly an

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Speaker 1: all Yukon party because Edwards is moving on alongside fellow

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Speaker 1: Connecticut alums DEFEASTA. Collier and Azare Stevens, who will meet

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Speaker 1: in the other semi Call your A one seed Stevens

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Speaker 1: a six. Now you know Arik wants to win it

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Speaker 1: all for Notre Dame and for all the other Husky

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Speaker 1: haters out there. All four players already guaranteed twenty five

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Speaker 2: The runner up we'll get fifty K.

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Speaker 1: And the winner two hundred thousand dollars, plus the winners

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Speaker 1: the semifinals and the finals are Tomorrow night, beginning at

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Speaker 1: seven thirty pm Eastern on True TV. More on Unrivaled

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Speaker 1: a little bit later in the show to Soccer, where

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Speaker 1: the US women's national team roster for the upcoming she

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Speaker 1: believes Cup dropped on Wednesday, The highlight is the return

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Speaker 1: of Katerina mccar, whose time with Team USA has unfortunately

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Speaker 1: been highlighted by a string of injuries. Her most recent

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Speaker 1: US women's national team call up came last June during

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Speaker 1: Emma Hayes's first match as head coach, and Macario was

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Speaker 1: before getting ruled out due to persistent knee injuries. Those

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Speaker 1: In total, Hayes named twelve members of that gold medal

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Speaker 1: winning Olympic team to the She Believes roster, but there

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Speaker 1: members of Triple Espresso still being out. That's Sophia Wilson

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Speaker 1: formerly Smith, Trinity Rodman, and Mallory Swanson now per US Soccer.

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Speaker 1: Both Wilson and Rodman are in the process of rehabbing injuries,

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Speaker 1: while Swanson is out due to personal commitments. The She

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Speaker 1: Beliefs Cup will be held from February twentieth to the

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Speaker 1: The three other participating teams are Japan, Columbia and Australia.

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Speaker 1: Australian national team star Sam Kerr was found not guilty

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Speaker 2: So this dates back to January of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Kerr and partner Christy Lewis were at a taxi heading

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Speaker 1: Driver began behaving erradically after she felt ill and spat

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Speaker 1: End quote to college hoops, where we've got a few

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Speaker 1: big top twenty five matchups. Tonight, First up, number three

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Speaker 1: Texas travels to number eight Kentucky for an SEC showdown.

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Speaker 1: The twenty four and two Longhorns are aiming to give

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Speaker 1: Kentucky its first home loss of the season. That game

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Speaker 1: late night, but worth staying up. Number one UCLA heads

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Speaker 1: show notes More hoops. The first week of Athletes Unlimited

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Speaker 1: basketball action has been a good one. On Tuesday, the

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Speaker 1: folks at AU announced that opening weekend ticket sales were

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Speaker 1: up one hundred and twenty five percent over last year

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Speaker 1: the leaderboard at the end of week one, while Week

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Speaker 1: WNBA vet Erica Wheeler will join the Seattle Storm this

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Speaker 1: p WHL, where last season's MVP Toronto forward Natalie Spooner

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Speaker 1: team standout Sarah Nurse. She suffered a lower body entry

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Speaker 1: tonight between the Maryland Charm and Boston Guard. Maryland is

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Speaker 1: a mess. I still have my winner and if you said,

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Speaker 2: Is that what it's like.

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Speaker 4: On the playgrounds growing up?

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Speaker 4: Where does this rule come from? And do we think

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Speaker 5: Origin story, I can't help you with that.

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Speaker 5: If you don't play both sides of the ball, there's

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Speaker 6: And so those mainly offensively minded players, they don't get

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's pretty it's pretty standard.

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Speaker 1: Interesting me, show's your bracket looking huh?

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Speaker 6: So I had a sleeper pick to win it all.

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Speaker 6: I had Rakia Jackson and Rakiya just went up against

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Speaker 6: She ended up bullying her straight like that thunder showed

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Speaker 1: Injuries, by it's just you got nobody left.

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Speaker 2: We're out, You're out.

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Speaker 1: Feliks insane, Like I want to. I want to put

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Speaker 1: And I know I'm talking that's mess. Wall Asia Wilson

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Speaker 2: What I have and I'm sad it's not happening.

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Speaker 1: You got any takeaways, meche, Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 6: First of all, nothing to do with the x's and o's.

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Speaker 6: To me and Courtney Williams. If we're in talian who's winning.

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Speaker 6: She's winning? Because if you walk out to Teddy Pendergrass

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the vibes are funny because it hits until

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Speaker 5: I did not oh about her about her music?

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Speaker 5: Oh Lexie about that life. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Lex kind of goes with the flow. She's just there

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Speaker 1: So Haul walked out to set it off by boozy badass,

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Speaker 4: There's money on the line everywhere.

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Speaker 2: It seems like it. Right, all right, me, we got

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Speaker 1: You got?

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Speaker 6: My other biggest takeaway, Elia Edwards putting everybody unnoticed that

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Speaker 5: She might be young, but she's really her.

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Speaker 6: And you know why that makes me happy, Sarah, because

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Speaker 5: Go out there.

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Speaker 5: Not to mention blowing.

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Speaker 6: I didn't see anything about a foul limit, and Skyler,

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Speaker 5: Have passed it.

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Speaker 2: She would have then passed she was using them.

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Speaker 5: She was using them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that relates to one of my takeaways the strategy.

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Speaker 1: That was a really big part of strategy, and players

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Speaker 2: Blew my mind. Ray Burrell beating Jewel did not see that.

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Speaker 1: With that in mind, like a special respect to Courtney

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Speaker 6: I want to hear Courtney Williams dad's peen talk that

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Speaker 1: I want it, yeah, but I'm enjoying it so much.

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Speaker 2: My apologies to the bigs. That's a big myself. I

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we remind ourselves how a bill

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Speaker 1: becomes a law. With Congresswoman Laurie Trehan, we caught up

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Speaker 2: Joining us now.

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Speaker 1: The US representative for the third Congressional District of Massachusetts

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Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen. She's a member of the House Committee

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Speaker 1: on Energy and Commerce, co chair of the Democratic Policy

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Speaker 1: and Communications Committee, Senior Whip, and member of the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Steering and Policy Committee. A college volleyball player at Georgetown University,

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Speaker 1: a husband. Just kidding, Dave, it's Congresswoman Laurie Trahan. Hi, Laurie, Hi.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing, Sarah good?

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Speaker 1: We're all kind of raising a husband. Well, not all

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Speaker 1: of us, those with agree about you. Yes, okay, most

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Speaker 1: important things. First, as a former college volleyball player, the

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Speaker 2: Are you down with that?

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Speaker 7: I hadn't heard that, and my daughter just started playing volleyball.

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Speaker 7: Huh yeah, it's fine.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think you have to be open to

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Speaker 4: the evolution.

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Speaker 1: That's right of all things, not just vibes. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you'll hear it from your daughter. Then, before we get

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Speaker 1: into the Fair Play for Women Act, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Women's Sports.

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Speaker 2: Bill that already passed in Congress.

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Speaker 1: We think inaccurately named Protection of Women and Girls in

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Speaker 1: Sports Act HR twenty eight. You spoke out against it

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Speaker 1: before the vote, and you said, in part quote, I

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Speaker 1: wish I was talking about a bill that will lower

448
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Speaker 1: costs for hard working families or help more Americans buy

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Speaker 1: a home, you know, the issues that so many people

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Speaker 1: told us mattered most in the twenty four election. But instead,

451
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Speaker 1: in just their second week of Powerhouse Republicans have chosen

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Speaker 1: to vote on a federal takeover.

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Speaker 2: Of sports at all levels. End quote.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about that day and about speaking out in

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Speaker 1: opposition to that bill.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it is true.

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Speaker 7: I mean, here, we come off this election where it

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Speaker 7: was pretty clear what people wanted us to get to

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Speaker 7: work on. In fact, you know, many of my Republican

460
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Speaker 7: colleagues campaigned on inflation and lowering the cost of living,

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Speaker 7: and we found ourselves on the House floor debating an

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Speaker 7: issue that they basically created by putting hundreds of millions

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Speaker 7: of dollars behind it, and you know, scaring people around

464
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Speaker 7: transgender athletes. I mean, I think one thing that you know,

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Speaker 7: I want to make I wanted to make clear that

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Speaker 7: day was, you know, fewer than ten I know, this

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Speaker 7: is a point you've made. Fewer than men of the

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Speaker 7: half a million athletes who are playing college sports today

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Speaker 7: are transgender. And there's really not a single parent that

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Speaker 7: I've talked to back home, who like stopped me in

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Speaker 7: the supermarket to say.

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Speaker 4: You must do something about this right there.

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Speaker 7: And then you know, they also don't think politicians should

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Speaker 7: be making all of these, you know, decisions. We have

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Speaker 7: governing bodies of sports. They're experts, they're dedicated to you know,

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Speaker 7: their their sports and creating fair and responsible rules for participation.

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Speaker 7: Many of them have already implemented changes right to ensure

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Speaker 7: fairness and safety. So I think that's where the decisions,

479
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Speaker 7: you know, we should be made. But it doesn't stop

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Speaker 7: my you know, Republican colleagues from you know, weaponizing this issue,

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Speaker 7: and it has a lot of consequence as a as

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Speaker 7: a result.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean, I think you pointed out

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Speaker 1: smartly in your speaking out that day that there are

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Speaker 1: tons of organizations that have rules and are using science

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Speaker 1: and you know, the things that we should use to

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Speaker 1: make these decisions, crafting evidence based rules that allow for participation,

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Speaker 1: inclusion and also fairness. And I wonder as the only

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Speaker 1: division one female member of Congress, as the only person

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Speaker 1: who played at the collegiate level at the highest level,

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Speaker 1: some people might assume that you would side for the

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Speaker 1: opposing view that oh I someone would have taken my spot.

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Speaker 1: People sometimes say that to me as a former Division

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Speaker 1: one athlete, and I think the experience of playing offers

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Speaker 1: me the perspective to understand the importance of inclusion at

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Speaker 1: lower levels and for as long as it feels fair,

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Speaker 1: and we can talk about it Olympic levels and everything

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Speaker 1: else and hormones and how long and all the other things.

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Speaker 2: But none of that nuance ever seems to be in

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Speaker 2: play here.

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Speaker 1: It always seems to be this like one fell swoop

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Speaker 1: trying to limit everything in everyone.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think that is that's the problem when

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Speaker 7: Paul Titians sort of take hold of an issue and

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Speaker 7: they use it as a cudgel.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is just a federal takeover of all sports, right,

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Speaker 7: It's not just college sports or you know, high school

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Speaker 7: sports or Olympic sports. I mean I think of my

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Speaker 7: own daughters, who like literally played soccer when they were

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Speaker 7: like three, four or five years old, right like in

512
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Speaker 7: those elementary school years, in those early middle school years,

513
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Speaker 7: whatever it is, and like we're gonna say no to

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Speaker 7: all those trans kids, like you can't be part of

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Speaker 7: a team, you can't like sort of learn the just

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Speaker 7: the camaraderie and be a part of your community and

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Speaker 7: feel a sense of belonging and it's just cool because

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Speaker 7: you know, Marjorie Taylor Green says so. So, I just

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Speaker 7: I think that is what people have to be reminded of.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the reason why we have these organizations, these

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Speaker 7: sports governing authorities, which we have at every level of

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Speaker 7: play is to make you know, these decisions, and they

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Speaker 7: have over the course of time, they've sports enhancement drugs

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Speaker 7: like you just name, they've always sort of kept pace

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Speaker 7: and to just take that away and then look at

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Speaker 7: one of the things that you know, we also talked

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Speaker 7: about when that bill came to the floor, was how

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Speaker 7: are you going to implement this? Like there are a

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Speaker 7: lot of creeps out there, So now someone gets to accuse, uh,

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Speaker 7: you know, a girl who doesn't look feminine enough or

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Speaker 7: doesn't have like pigtails in her hair or something as

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Speaker 7: not being a girl.

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Speaker 4: And then and then what like then how does she

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Speaker 4: have to prove that? Yeah, it's just it, It just is.

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Speaker 7: It's poor policy making, and I think it's it's uh,

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Speaker 7: it's politics, I think at its worst.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, it feels rushed through when you

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Speaker 1: don't have any implementation for how you're going to follow through,

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Speaker 1: and you know there is the worst case scenario to

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Speaker 1: what you point to is you know, some four year

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Speaker 1: old who has to somehow prove their gender. But I

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Speaker 1: think some people haven't even spoken about how that would

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Speaker 1: even unravel further because you don't need to ask permission

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Speaker 1: in a lot of those situations. We're imagining a situation

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Speaker 1: where there's someone put in charge of regulating gender, and

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Speaker 1: the reality is at every single level, from kindergarten through college,

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Speaker 1: there could be a physical therapist, a trainer, a coach

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Speaker 1: assistant who says to a player, I suspect you, and

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Speaker 1: if you don't show me otherwise, I'm going to tell everyone.

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Speaker 1: And whether or not they have any authority to do

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Speaker 1: so doesn't matter, because that already happens. We already know

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Speaker 1: that there are so many bad actors in women's and girls'

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Speaker 1: sports that have violated the trust and have violated the

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Speaker 1: position that they're in, and the fact that that could

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Speaker 1: happen here because a player is just scared of someone

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Speaker 1: telling everyone they're a boy, even if they aren't, the

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Speaker 1: fear of that judgment, the fear of that stigma, could

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Speaker 1: cause them to feel like they're in a position where

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Speaker 1: they have to act or allow someone to abuse them,

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Speaker 1: and that's.

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Speaker 2: Terrifying to me.

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Speaker 1: I wonder for you if you have a sense how

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Speaker 1: many of your Republican colleagues genuinely believe trans women are

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Speaker 1: a threat to women's sports, Like they really aren't aware

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Speaker 1: of how few there are, or the policies that exist,

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Speaker 1: or how many of them really understand it's not an

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Speaker 1: issue and are using it just for political points.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean you can't ignore the facts, you know, the

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Speaker 7: when you say you know less than ten college athletes, right,

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Speaker 7: I think you can't ignore that data.

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Speaker 4: But it doesn't stop them.

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Speaker 7: They think it's a it's a political winner for them,

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Speaker 7: and they've gone like so much further in their attacks

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Speaker 7: on trans people that you know, I think whether they

576
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Speaker 7: believe it or not, it doesn't even matter. They have

577
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Speaker 7: set such a dangerous narrative in our country around denying

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Speaker 7: the existence of trans people. And then, you know, in

579
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Speaker 7: terms of just trying to take over you know, sports,

580
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Speaker 7: it's there's just no limits that they'll they'll go to,

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Speaker 7: and I'm sure they're not done.

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Speaker 4: So I think it is it is politics at its work.

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Speaker 7: This is what people hate about, you know, and I

584
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Speaker 7: do think that there's some folks out there that have

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Speaker 7: common sense and they have maybe concerns or they've been

586
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Speaker 7: alerted to that there are concerns and they don't come

587
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Speaker 7: from a place of hate, but they've injected a really

588
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Speaker 7: hateful narrative in all of this that is really going

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Speaker 7: to take years to fix.

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Speaker 1: The fear mongering and the scare tactics are really what's

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Speaker 1: pushing so much of this.

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Speaker 2: How do we get the real numbers out?

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Speaker 1: How do we get out that there are ten NC

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Speaker 1: double athletes, that there were four athletes in Utah when

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Speaker 1: the Republican governor they're actually vetoed a similar state level band,

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Speaker 1: noting that we only have four athletes that would be affected.

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Speaker 2: By I'm not doing this.

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Speaker 1: How do we get that out and their stories so

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Speaker 1: that people don't think of them statistics but understand these

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Speaker 1: are just human beings and kids who want to play.

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Speaker 7: You know, we just need to hear more from people

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Speaker 7: who play in these arenas, who are able to use

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Speaker 7: their position and their platform and really they're you know,

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Speaker 7: the respect that they've sort of built as a as

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Speaker 7: a leader in sport, and I get like, not everybody

606
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Speaker 7: wants to get pulled into like the political vortex of

607
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Speaker 7: us against them, and it can get so just hateful

608
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Speaker 7: really fast, especially when you're in you know, on digital media.

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Speaker 7: One of the places where I sort of draw my

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Speaker 7: strength is in my lived experience and in having kids

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Speaker 7: who are athletes and being on the bleachers every weekend

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Speaker 7: and sort of you know, painting the full picture. And

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Speaker 7: I've had conversations with people who are just like, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Just like you.

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Speaker 7: I played collegiate soccer. But I'm hearing over and over

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Speaker 7: that this is becoming in you know.

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Speaker 4: An issue.

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Speaker 7: And the second you tell them the numbers, and then

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Speaker 7: you remind them, look, we have an NCAA, you have

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Speaker 7: a state board, there's the Olympic International Committee, right like

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Speaker 7: then they're reminded like, oh yeah, like we've always we

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Speaker 7: have these bodies for a reason. Why would politicians insert

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Speaker 7: themselves into it?

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Speaker 4: It's not just for political reasons. So I do think.

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Speaker 7: Having more voices on the side of credibility if that matters.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I encourage people all the time to get

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Speaker 7: off the sidelines and do that.

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Speaker 1: One of the most frustrating things is how this focus

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Speaker 1: on this as distracted away from the real issues around

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Speaker 1: women's sport.

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Speaker 2: And I want to.

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Speaker 1: Throw back to a hearing in March of twenty twenty

633
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Speaker 1: three you pressed the ad at Washington State on his

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Speaker 1: department's exploitation of Title nine loophools.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to a little bit of that.

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Speaker 7: You must be aware that last year an investigative report

637
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Speaker 7: from USA Today found that your university overcounted your women's

638
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Speaker 7: rowing roster by twenty one athletes and counted eight male

639
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Speaker 7: practice players as women's roster spots to show compliance with

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Speaker 7: Title nine on paper, Yes, and it sounds like, just

641
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Speaker 7: from your direct and truthful answers, that you understand that

642
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Speaker 7: by overcounting or misrepresenting the number of women athletes at

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Speaker 7: your university, that you're essentially depriving, in this case, twenty

644
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Speaker 7: nine women of the chance to continue athletic career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, assuming those numbers are correct. Yes.

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Speaker 7: So I bring this up because many of my colleagues

647
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Speaker 7: on the committee may not be aware that the Department

648
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Speaker 7: of Education allows colleges to exploit loopholes like overcounting women athletes,

649
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Speaker 7: double or triple counting them, or even counting male athletes

650
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Speaker 7: as women to comply with Title nine on paper.

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Speaker 1: So I'm listening to that, and it just reminds me

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Speaker 1: yet again that the kind of outright exclusion of thousands

653
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Speaker 1: of women and girls that's currently happening across the country

654
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Speaker 1: seems to be of less interest to folks than trying

655
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Speaker 1: to motivate people using imagined situations, where in a trans

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Speaker 1: athlete is you know, quote unquote stealing one spot from

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Speaker 1: assist gender women at the collegiate level, so college women

658
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Speaker 1: still have sixty thousand fewer athletic opportunities than men. High

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Speaker 1: school girls have about a million fewer opportunities to play

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Speaker 1: sports than high school boys. And this is all despite

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Speaker 1: the fact that Title nine is supposed to be regulating that.

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Speaker 1: So this brings me to a bill that you've reintroduced

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Speaker 1: several times, including last February and just this week, the

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Speaker 1: Fair Play for Women Act. It actually seeks to solve

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Speaker 1: the biggest issues that are facing girls and women in sports,

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Speaker 1: the real issues.

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Speaker 2: So tell us what this bill would do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so this is going to close the Title nine

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Speaker 7: loopholes that we know exist, and as you so eloquantly said,

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Speaker 7: it basically closes off opportunities for and I wouldn't just say,

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Speaker 7: thousands or tens of thousands, like millions of women, because.

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Speaker 4: It goes all the way to high schools.

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Speaker 7: Right when you have these loopholes, I think that putting

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Speaker 7: it at that scale, it begs the question, why the

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Speaker 7: hell is Congress, you know, using women's sports as a

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Speaker 7: political weapon in their culture.

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Speaker 4: War when we literally have you know, a.

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Speaker 7: Million fewer opportunities for girls than boys to participate in

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Speaker 7: high school sports. And despite you know, women comprising a

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Speaker 7: majority of undergraduate students in our colleges, they only represent

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Speaker 7: forty four percent of all college athletes. So the Fair

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Speaker 7: Play for Women Act fixes that by holding schools and

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Speaker 7: athletic stations accountable for discriminatory treatment. It expands reporting requirements

684
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Speaker 7: for college and K through twelve athletics data so that

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Speaker 7: we have the transparency.

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Speaker 4: That we need.

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Speaker 7: And its strengths It strengthens Title nine rights for athletes themselves,

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Speaker 7: So no more double or triple counting women athletes in college,

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Speaker 7: no more counting men's practice players as women athletes. The

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Speaker 7: other ones we saw counting roster spots at Triumphs before

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Speaker 7: cutting dozens of athletes, and we've seen this in colleges

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Speaker 7: all across the country. Right. I mean that's I meet

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Speaker 7: with a lot of a lot of colleges, you know,

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Speaker 7: over the course of you know, the debate on sports

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Speaker 7: and college athletics, and I always look up when they

696
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 7: leave the office and I'm like, oh, yep, they're in

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Speaker 7: They're not in compliance either, So I think being up

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Speaker 7: our enforcement, having more transparency.

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Speaker 4: And just making sure that we're strengthening.

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Speaker 7: Title nine, you know, you know us year when we

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Speaker 7: celebrated the fiftieth anniversary, and I think, wow, I never

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Speaker 7: would have been able to go to Georgetown without Title nine.

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Speaker 7: It changed the course of my life, as it has

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Speaker 7: for so many women. And like, why are we not

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Speaker 7: thinking about the next fifty years at a time when

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Speaker 7: women's sports is like so exciting doing it all on

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Speaker 7: their own, by the way, But it's just it's incredible

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Speaker 7: that we haven't harnessed the excitement around women's sports and

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Speaker 7: used it to like propel us into the next one

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Speaker 7: hundred years. Rather we're like, we're making up these issues

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Speaker 7: going backwards.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're going.

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Speaker 4: Backwards you know, opportunities for women.

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Speaker 1: So we're just trying to make sure we still have

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Speaker 1: a vote after the you know, bills go through where

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Speaker 1: we can't use our married name and whatever else I would.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like at every single turn, moves

718
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Speaker 1: are being made to suppress us, as opposed to celebrate

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Speaker 1: or build off the strength of some of the organic

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Speaker 1: growth that's happening in the sports space or anywhere else

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Speaker 1: in women's spaces. What's the purpose of reintroducing bills? Is

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Speaker 1: there a limit on how many times you can do that,

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Speaker 1: or why do you need to reintroduce it.

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Speaker 4: It's a great question.

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Speaker 7: And I was just so surprised that you knew about

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Speaker 7: the attacks on women voting, Like you're so politically Oh,

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 2: All this shit. It's killing me every day. It's just

729
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Speaker 2: like I got to.

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Speaker 1: End my day watching dog videos there. Also, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm out of here going to news.

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Speaker 7: That was impressive because not many know that that one's coming.

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Speaker 4: But it's a great question.

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Speaker 7: Every time we introduce legislation, we basically have the Congress,

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Speaker 7: which is a two calendar years. Is how long a

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Speaker 7: Congress lasts to pass that bill? And at the end

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Speaker 7: of the session, the bill if it hasn't been passed,

738
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Speaker 7: even if you pass it in the House and it

739
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Speaker 7: dies in the Senate because they don't take it up

740
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Speaker 7: unless it's signed by the president, the bill dies and

741
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Speaker 7: you've basically start over the next Congress. So we have

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Speaker 7: not gotten fair play for women across the finish line.

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Speaker 4: And so you know, we re introduce it every Congress

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Speaker 4: on it.

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Speaker 1: So I got to watch Schoolhouse Rock again, I think,

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Speaker 1: And that's that's how I'll be reminded how many times

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Speaker 1: you could.

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Speaker 2: Do it and where it needs to go.

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Speaker 4: And there's no limit. We'll keep We'll keep introducing it

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Speaker 4: until we pass it.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 1: How can folks who support the message behind the bill

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Speaker 1: get involved in like raising awareness? Can we help get

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Speaker 1: it passed in any way?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean, look, any time like a piece of legislation

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00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 7: gets uplifted by athletes, it's really helpful because people really

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Speaker 7: respect and you think of all the fans out there,

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00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 7: they watch because of the athletes, and they follow them

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Speaker 7: their personalities, like I know, my girls, Like they know

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Speaker 7: so much more about women athletes to you know, at

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Speaker 7: the collegiate level, at the pro level finally than I

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Speaker 7: ever did. And it's really important. Like what how they

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Speaker 7: the things they support, the things they speak out on,

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Speaker 7: the things that they you know, just talk about really

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Speaker 7: matter so whenever we can put a bill that you know,

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Speaker 7: just is right in the wheelhouse of players, getting them

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Speaker 7: to chat about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really smart.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we had Stepstrack from Voice and Sport,

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Speaker 1: and she has her VIZ advocates across the colleges and

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Speaker 1: spaces across the country, which is really, to your point,

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Speaker 1: necessary to have the people actually having the lived experience

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Speaker 1: of who would be affected by this speaking out and

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Speaker 1: supporting things.

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Speaker 2: I also think it's interesting you had in my brain.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, there's such loud opponents on the other side,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, Riley Gaines is everywhere, and.

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Speaker 2: Then I was like, oh yeah, because she's not doing

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Speaker 2: anything else.

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Speaker 1: And the professional athletes who are competing are busy being

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Speaker 1: professional athletes, and they're the ones who support trans inclusion,

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Speaker 1: and they don't have as much time to sell their

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Speaker 1: soul to Oan and Fox News in order to get

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Speaker 1: the word out about their bullshit. So I guess we

786
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: need to get some retired athletes who are enjoying vacations

787
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Speaker 1: and fruity drinks to get their ass down to DC

788
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Speaker 1: and start supporting things and going on all the shows

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Speaker 1: the same way people without souls.

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Speaker 2: Are doing okay.

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Speaker 1: So last month you joined a couple other members of

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Speaker 1: Congress to applaud the Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights,

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Speaker 1: which I think still exists but hard to say, for

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Speaker 1: releasing a new fact sheet that was clarifying how colleges

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Speaker 1: were obliged under Title nine to work with the changing

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Speaker 1: landscape and still you know, pay attention to things like name,

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Speaker 1: image and likeness and direct payments and how the changing

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Speaker 1: space would still be regulated by Title nine. You helped

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Speaker 1: push for this update, you were excited when it happened.

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Speaker 1: And then, to quote jay Z grand opening, grand closing

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Speaker 1: earlier today, the Department of Education now just like two

802
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Speaker 1: weeks later, announced Title nine doesn't apply to NIO Trump

803
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Speaker 1: pushing for it not to be regulated.

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Speaker 2: So what can you say about this?

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Speaker 7: There's been a lot of talk about college sports post

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Speaker 7: house settlement, right, but almost none of that conversation has

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Speaker 7: been focused on how women athletes will be impacted. Right

808
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 7: as we speak, and this isn't finally yet, but you know,

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00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 7: colleges and universities are are you know, sort of plotting

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Speaker 7: to circumvent Title nine and direct most of their revenue

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Speaker 7: share to football and men's basketball and they're openly talking

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Speaker 7: about it. So anyway, I teamed up with a few

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Speaker 7: members of the Democratic Women's Caucus so that we could

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Speaker 7: just get the Department of Education to weigh in on

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Speaker 7: how Title nine would apply to potential revenue share funds

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Speaker 7: if the settlement's approved, because right now, the settlement's like

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Speaker 7: ninety ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for those who don't know, this, House versus NCAA

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Speaker 1: essentially calls for backpay to college athletes now that we

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Speaker 1: recognize that they were the unpaid labor making people billions.

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Speaker 1: But it feels like it will end up getting paid

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Speaker 1: out predominantly to men and not abide at all by

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Speaker 1: Title nine.

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Speaker 7: So many of these things are like precedent setting, right,

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Speaker 7: So we wanted a Department of Education, even though this

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Speaker 7: is in the courts right now, to weigh in on

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Speaker 7: Title nine. And I mean I will come to know

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Speaker 7: as no shock to you, but of course Title nine

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Speaker 7: absolutely applies. College sports may change, but the law remains

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Speaker 7: the same, and so does the obligation that schools have

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Speaker 7: to sure.

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Speaker 4: That the equality for men and women's sports.

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Speaker 7: It also said that schools can be liable for Title

834
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Speaker 7: nine violations if they invest more heavily in the promotion,

835
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Speaker 7: the facilities, the games, even the scheduling.

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Speaker 4: Of men's sports versus women's and.

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Speaker 7: Those are huge factors for those of us who have

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Speaker 7: long said that, you know, the appetite for women's sports

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Speaker 7: is there, we just need the promotion, right. I mean,

840
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Speaker 7: you watch the Super Bowl and you saw the Nike ad.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the sports is going to come from women.

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Speaker 7: And here we've been like the like Cornhusker Stadium, the

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Speaker 7: women's softball tournament, the basketball tournament, the pro soccer league,

844
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Speaker 7: and hockey leagues. Now they've got pro volleyball. I mean

845
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Speaker 7: we've been doing this so without a dime of like

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Speaker 7: promotion or a media deal, doing it all on their own.

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Speaker 1: And without taxpayer subsidies for their stadiums, which people love

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Speaker 1: to ignore men have been benefiting from for like one

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Speaker 1: hundred plus years.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 7: And so I mean this is a moment I think

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Speaker 7: when people are if they're not playing women's sports, they're

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Speaker 7: watching women's sports, and I think it's just time for

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Speaker 7: just an acknowledgment of you know, the precipice that we're

855
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Speaker 7: on on the you know, how we're going to you know,

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Speaker 7: fund these media deals, how we're going to you know,

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Speaker 7: we can't talk about fair market value because we don't

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Speaker 7: have a fair market value, right women.

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Speaker 1: I know, it didn't change the law that there was

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Speaker 1: the guidance sheet. Does it change the law that the

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Speaker 1: guidance sheet doesn't exist anymore? It feels like ultimately it

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Speaker 1: should all still apply to the law that is Title nine,

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Speaker 1: which is difficult to enforce already. But what does it

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Speaker 1: really mean in terms of every day activity? When Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump says we're not going to allow that to apply.

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Speaker 4: Well, they're going to come up with their own version.

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Speaker 7: But like mind you, this is the same administrations that

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Speaker 7: is thinking of wiping out the Department of Education, which

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Speaker 7: is exactly where enforcement of Title nine sits. So I

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Speaker 7: think there's a lot of things that play, I mean,

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Speaker 7: don't I'm not very optimistic that they're going to come

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Speaker 7: up with a guidance that was as pro woman athlete

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Speaker 7: as Biden administration. There's a reason why they rescinded it.

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Speaker 7: They don't agree with it, but we don't know what

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Speaker 7: they're going to do. But if they think that they're

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Speaker 7: going to stop it, it's going to be decided by

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Speaker 7: the courts. And that's sort of been our recourse just

878
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Speaker 7: these first six weeks of this administration is when they

879
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Speaker 7: try to roll us back, or when they try to

880
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Speaker 7: undo statute that's been on the books in this case

881
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Speaker 7: over fifty years.

882
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Speaker 4: We're going to fight that in court.

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Speaker 1: And you're doing that in a number of ways, including

884
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Speaker 1: a pro NIL Build a College Athlete Economic Freedom Act

885
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Speaker 1: that has provisions targeting collectives like when a school has

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Speaker 1: just a football collective to help raise NIL or a

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Speaker 1: men's basketball only, and also require that goods and services

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Speaker 1: offered by those collective be equitable across sports and genders.

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Speaker 2: So you're doing this in ways.

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Speaker 1: That aren't just our ways, which is like screaming on

891
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Speaker 1: social media about how screwed up everything is. You're actually

892
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Speaker 1: introducing these bills and these opportunities for it to go

893
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Speaker 1: through the court system, for it to go through the

894
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Speaker 1: proper places to be decided. And it's so necessary to

895
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Speaker 1: have folks like you doing that. It is so necessary

896
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Speaker 1: to believe that there are people in there fighting against

897
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Speaker 1: all this stuff. It is so overwhelming to be on

898
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Speaker 1: the outside looking in and wondering where the folks are

899
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: that can get in the way and muck things up.

900
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Speaker 1: As they're trying to undo all these policies and laws

901
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: and statutes that have been in existence for so long.

902
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Speaker 1: I know we have to let you go, but I

903
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Speaker 1: have to ask you one non work related question because

904
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Speaker 1: of your d one volleyball background. You mentioned we've got

905
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Speaker 1: these pro leagues now NCAA women's volleyball is bigger than ever.

906
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Speaker 1: Watching this growth, watching these like football stadiums sold out

907
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Speaker 1: for volleyball.

908
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Speaker 2: What does it mean to you? How do you watch it?

909
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Speaker 1: Is?

910
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Speaker 4: It is the best?

911
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Speaker 7: I mean, it wasn't something that I could have ever

912
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Speaker 7: fathomed when I was playing in front of you know,

913
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Speaker 7: maybe like eighty people right on a good day.

914
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Speaker 4: It is. It is really like I'm so proud.

915
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Speaker 7: I know it's volleyball is like the one of the

916
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Speaker 7: fastest growing sport.

917
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Speaker 4: It's the largest AAU sport.

918
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Speaker 7: You know, my daughter just started playing, so it's a

919
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Speaker 7: lot of fun to just see how it's taken off.

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00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 4: And like, you know, I tell her and it makes

921
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Speaker 4: me sound like I'm a hundred.

922
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Speaker 7: Like I will tell her like when I played, there

923
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 7: was one club that traveled in all of New England.

924
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Speaker 2: Was made of cotton. My mom sowed it or something.

925
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 4: But it's true, Like.

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Speaker 7: There was only one club and now there's like hundreds,

927
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Speaker 7: so it's it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: You know.

929
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Speaker 7: I have to say, every time I see the clip

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Speaker 7: of corn Husch Stadium and.

931
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Speaker 4: People just like pouring in, it just gives me goosebumps.

932
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Speaker 7: And you're right the I I didn't I wasn't able

933
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Speaker 7: to go to the tournament this year because it's so

934
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 7: close to Christmas and we barely get out in time

935
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Speaker 7: for Christmas.

936
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Speaker 4: But it's on the list.

937
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Speaker 7: I've got to bring my girls because it's just such

938
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Speaker 7: an exciting time.

939
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Speaker 2: All right.

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00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: Last thing, you got me thinking about sending athletes down

941
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Speaker 1: to help you push for this stuff. And I love

942
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: being a connector. I know a lot of athletes. Give

943
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: me your dream team. Name a couple of folks. Do you

944
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: want to come down there with you and lobby because

945
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: I guarantee some of them would want to come down

946
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: there and put their money where their mouth is.

947
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Speaker 7: Oh you know, so if because we're so proximate to Yukon,

948
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Speaker 7: I mean, I have page buckers, it's like such a pagebackers.

949
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: What about I mean you probably want all the old

950
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: ones and if you Saklier and Sue Ber to just

951
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: get all those books.

952
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 4: I am, Send them all.

953
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 7: Send anybody I don't here, if you're well known or

954
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 7: if no one knows who you are, I have to say.

955
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 7: And I'll just make this point because it's worth repeating

956
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 7: over and over. When I go into these meetings where

957
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 7: we're talking about college sports, I'm the only woman.

958
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: I am. Men. This is their favorite topic. They want

959
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 4: to they love it.

960
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 7: Their fans, they they often they've played themselves. But no

961
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 7: one is pounding on the table for title nine and

962
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 7: women athletes and so all the while, like these guys kids,

963
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 7: their sons are watching, you know, these women play, and

964
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 7: so I think it's.

965
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: And their daughters are watching them, not fight for them, right, But.

966
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 7: Yes, any and all women like coming down and just

967
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 7: you know, standing shoulder to shoulder and how important this

968
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 7: is and how they've had enough of you know, their

969
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 7: sports and their programs being underfunded or overlooked or allowed

970
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 7: for loopholes to set in.

971
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 4: It just helps the It helps the cause.

972
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 7: That's how these things get done is seeing you know,

973
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 7: the real people who are impacted by it.

974
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: Agreed, I hope that buzzing isn't a warning. Ever since

975
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: January sixth, I'm worried about like a qan non shaman

976
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: coming into your office.

977
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the time.

978
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: Sorry for swearing, Honorable Congresswoman, you just got me all

979
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: fired up.

980
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: Thanks again to Laurie for joining us.

981
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: Truly, truly like makes me feel better deep in my

982
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: soul that there are people like her in there fighting.

983
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: We got to take another break when we come back.

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