1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York Bloomberg eleventh to Washington, d C, 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg to Roston Bloomberg rail Line to San Francisco Bloomberg 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: nine six, to the Country series at m gannal one 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: ninety and around the grove the Bloomberg Radio across aven 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Boomberg dot com. This is Bloomberg Surveillance and the opening 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: Dell is brought to you by s e I in 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: the future of the asset management business will be profoundly different. 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: Find out how Sciogical Global Operating Platform can help you 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: navigate the new operational frontier at se i C dot 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: com slash imagine good morning. I'm caroed Moscow along with 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: Tom Keene and Michael McKee, and stocks are lower at 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: the open. The SMP five hundred is down half per 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: cent or nine points too downtowns Industrial Average down four 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: tenth per cent or sixty one points to seventeen thousand, 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: twelve nastacts down seven tenths per cent or thirty three 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: points to forty six seventy five ten. Your treasury up 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: twelve thirty seconds. The yield one two percent yield on 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: the two year point eight six percent. Now I'm ex 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: screwed oil doneine tents percent or thirty six cents to 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: thirty seven fifties six of Arrol comics gold is up 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: eight tens per cent or ten dollars forty cents to 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: twelve seventy four fifty and ounce the euro a dollar 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: ten forty seven, the en one twelve point eight zero. 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Tom and Mike Bloomberg surveillance, Karen, thank you as so much. Mike, 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: we need to speak to a gentleman his His mother 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: was such an embarrassment. She would open up bank accounts 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: just to get toasters. Mike Reagan grew up with like 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: fort toasters off in the pantry. Uh, Tom, you know 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: it's funny. My mom and her later years, actually got 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: a job at a bank in her in her sixtees 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: and seventies, but her eyesight was so bad she kept 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 1: getting twenties and the fifties mixed up, and she lasted 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: about a week. But that tells you something about the 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: financial acumen and virul Mike bringing Mike. But this, this 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: article from Michael Reagan is an act of God. It 36 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: is the first clear short read on what's going away 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: on all five corners of New York City. Well it's 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: not just New York City. I mean, if if there's money, 39 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: banks will be there. But it's the places like you're 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: writing about that when there may not be as much money, 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: but they still need banks right there. Right they're refer 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: to them as banking deserts. Uh. And it was I 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: I basically writing about some research that the Federal Reserves. 44 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: Liberty Street blog was was blogging about Yester if you 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: want to, you know, if anyone wants to google out 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: and find it. And it's a fascinating concept. You think, okay, 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: banks are aggressively closing branches. Why while everyone's banking online, 48 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: they're banking on their phones. You know, they just don't 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: need this physical footprint as much as as they used to. 50 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: And you would think on first clients, well, well who cares, right, 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: does it really matter? But there is some concern that 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: they're especially closing them in sort of low income, minority 53 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: heavy areas, um where there's not as much affluence. Uh. 54 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: City Group Tom for example, is closing all its banks 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: in Boston. I don't know what that means. It'sn't under 56 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, Wellesley Hills isn't under yeah, disadvantage area. So 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: but the idea that they're they're looking into when they 58 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: they started some research from uh UH some professors at 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: Berkeley UH in California saying that what happens is when 60 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: you when all of a sudden neighborhood doesn't have any 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: bank branches, the small business owners a lot of times 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: can be sort of cut out from some you know, 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: bank funding that they normally would have gotten. And they 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: talk about what they call soft information. You know, a 65 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: community banker gets to know the local business trends, They 66 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: get to know their customers, and it's not just all 67 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: their credit scores and hard data like that that they 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: look at. They they're able to extend loans that maybe 69 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: an algorithm and or a purely mathematical look at a 70 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: business wouldn't extend in a small business. And then that 71 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: leaves these small businesses sort of having a scrape around 72 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: to try to find something else, sort of these predatory 73 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: type of lenders that a lot of people are talking about. 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: So it's an interesting concept and and and to me, 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: I think the banks really the banks have greatly obviously 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: recovered from the financial crisis. The one area they never 77 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: recovered from is the pr and and you know, you 78 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: look at Bernie Sanders and everyone trying to break up 79 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: the big banks. I think this is a big pr 80 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: story for them that they might want to get ahead of. 81 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: And as far as your bar charts, Michael, are just 82 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: stunning the credit card growth that comes from digital versus 83 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: bricks and mortars, the pruning of branches, the rate of change, 84 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: and what we observe in New York. They're all empty. Yeah, 85 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: and I assume they're all empty to everyone listening to 86 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: this nationwide right right. And you know a lot of 87 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: banks talk about their bank of the future, you know, 88 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: and they're trying to sort of make the knees glitzy 89 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: small much very much smaller footprint, smaller employees, but sort 90 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: of you know, flashy digital screens and that sort of thing. 91 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: Really cares that no one really cares. Yeah, what about 92 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: small banks coming in? I mean, Mike, the void is 93 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: always particularly in poor areas. I'm sorry, whether there's credit 94 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: unions or small banks. That's been what we've done since 95 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, pre Revolutionary war time, right, And that's that's 96 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: what this research looked at. It. You know, a lot 97 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: obviously banks are rethinking their branch strategy across the board, 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: so they are closing branches, not necessarily reopening them in 99 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: the poor areas as much as they would in other areas. 100 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: So it is, you know, it's something that FEDS looking at, 101 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: and it's a it's a pretty fascinating topic. We should 102 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: note that you're writing is from Bloomberg gad Fly and 103 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: the terminal g a df CO. That's right, people can 104 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: see it there Bloomberg surveillance folks. This morning brought to 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: by Interactive Brokers and same group. If you're looking for 106 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: global futures contracts with low trading costs, look no further. 107 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: Interactive Brokers is the industry leader. Learned more at Interactive 108 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: brokers dot com slash see I mean group, Michael Reagan. 109 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: Where this with Bloomberg gad Fly here is it's two 110 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: deaths away from Lisa Bramo. It's they're not on speaking terms. 111 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: It's going great, I mean gad fly. Every day there's 112 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: things avail you. How how much are you getting out 113 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: of the equity market? Is that? What is the theme 114 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: that you're seeing from strategists, the change that you're seeing 115 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: from strategists. Well, I'm curious, I'm curious what you think 116 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: about this time, But I'm semi fascinated with the idea 117 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: of round numbers. And we look at two thousand in 118 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: the SMP five D and literally on Friday, I think 119 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: it closed at nineteen point nine nine. Yeah, so it's 120 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: struggling at that level. Right above that two thousand level 121 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: is also about SPI is the two day moving average, 122 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: which is the next big level that everyone's looking at. 123 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: That's a trend line that's been going down, downward sloping 124 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: since the turmoil in August, since all the foltility in August, 125 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: so pretty soon in order to even just to keep 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: track with the two day moving average means it's it's 127 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: gonna be pushing the market down if you believe in that. 128 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of people look at the 129 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: two U day it's probably the most followed, one of 130 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: the most followed trend lines. Uh, there's a belief. Had 131 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: a lot of high frequency trading, uh you know, looks 132 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: at it and uses that as one of its inputs 133 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: in it's uh, in their algorithms. So it's a it's 134 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting level. We had this huge almost 135 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: ten percent rebound in in little less than a month, 136 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: but it really is stalling out right at that round 137 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: number of two thousand and you know, a little bit 138 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: below the two webbing average. To review this the modest 139 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: death cross August two thousand and fifteen called a year ago. 140 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: We had a lovely kiss for the most part beginning 141 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 1: of the year, and now we've rolled over once again 142 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: and we begin to come up by that descending two 143 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: a day moving average. To me, they're just damp and trends. 144 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: I've never put a lot into two series giving averages. 145 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: I used three moving averages to give me some sort 146 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: of belief in frankly, right now they're a little soggy 147 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, And you know, I think in any case, 148 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: when you're in this sort of period of time right 149 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: now where there's not a lot of earnings, not a 150 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: lot of fundamental issues coming into the market. Um, you know, 151 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: a lot of the Fed next week, but before that, 152 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: they're all in a blackout period where we're not gonna 153 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: hear much from them. So I think people are looking 154 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: at the charts these days a lot more than they 155 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: would have otherwise. I agree, charts when you get into 156 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: some form of bear market, charts come up right now. 157 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: The fancy stuff I look at, folks, is indeterminate off 158 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: of some mumbo jumbo called a d X I, A 159 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: d X d M I, I should say, the more 160 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: short term moving averages I use have a modest uptilt 161 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: to them. But modest would be the operatf. We're congratulations 162 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: on your bank stuff. Oh, thank you great? Are enjoying 163 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: running for Bloomberg? Get? I love it? Yeah. I think 164 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: it's a great concept, you know, really trying to beat 165 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: critical and sort of procative and short and they forced 166 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: you to do this like twelve words. Right, hey, alrite short. 167 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: I'll be done in a hundred words. If you need me, 168 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: I'll go gotta launch. Yeah, alright. Michael Reagan from We're 169 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: Gonna do Radio Bloomberg get Flying, um l from does 170 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: he wanted to call it? Put a cork in your mouth. 171 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: That's still under considering. Michael Reagan, thank you so much. 172 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: The Doubt negative any when the vix eighteen point three 173 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: six time now to check in with Michael Barr and 174 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: got the latest world at national headlines. Michael, my time, 175 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. It's primary day today in several states, 176 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: with the biggest one in Michigan for Republican front runner 177 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Michigan offers a test of his growing popularity 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: among blue collar white voters. Trump tells ABC News today 179 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: the establishment attacks against him are not working. There spending 180 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars on fighting media establishment, and 181 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: you know they would rather not see me in there obviously. 182 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: You know you had failed. People like Mitt Romney talking, 183 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: He's have failed. One of the worst campaigns I've ever 184 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: witnessed in my life. Mississippi, Idaho, and Hawaii also hold 185 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: Republican contest. Democrats vote in Michigan and Mississippi today. A 186 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: down to tree on the try s reportedly caused a 187 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: commuter train to derail in northern California, sending its lead 188 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: car plunging into a swollen creek. The Alameda County Sheriff's 189 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: Department says nine people were injured, including four seriously. The 190 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: US air strike has killed at least a hundred fifty 191 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: allen Shabab militants at a training camp in Somalia to 192 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: believe the militants were about to launch an attack. Intelligence 193 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: officials say the air strikes targeted a camp run by 194 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: Islamic extremists in a forested area more than a hundred 195 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: twenty miles north of Mogad. 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