Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 3: Arm Strong and Getty, and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 4: This is certainly about the tragic.
Speaker 5: Death assassination political assassination of Charlie Kirk, but it is
Speaker 5: also much bigger than an attack on an individual. It
Speaker 5: is an attack on all of us. It is an
Speaker 5: attack on the American experiment.
Speaker 4: It is an.
Speaker 6: It's Governor Cox from the other day after the Charlie
Speaker 6: Kirk assassination of Utah, and he got a lot of
Speaker 6: play and a lot of attention across the country, and
Speaker 6: a lot of people thought he sounded like a rock star.
Speaker 6: And then it came across one of our favorite pundits
Speaker 6: who thought, and that ain't going to work. So we
Speaker 6: thought we would talk to that pundit, favorite friend of
Speaker 6: the show, David Drucker. David Druncker is with The Dispatch,
Speaker 6: a senior writer, author of In Trump's Shadow, The Battle
Speaker 6: for twenty twenty four, in the Future of the GOP.
Speaker 6: David Drucker, Welcome back to the Armstrong You Getty Show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good to be back.
Speaker 6: How do you like the Dispatch. By the way, I'm
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Speaker 6: That's how much I like the Dispatch. But how do
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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. I think we're building something really great here.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: They give me the freedom, They give me the freedom
Speaker 1: to report news, to report good stories. They they invest
Speaker 1: in campaign travel, and I just can't say enough about
Speaker 1: what I think we're building here. But also the sort
Speaker 1: of trust they give me to pursue really good stuff,
Speaker 1: and the fact that we just don't do clifbait.
Speaker 2: Nothing that we think is clifbait.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I know, I know, Stephen Jonah. One other
Speaker 6: things is, and I see this every time there's a big,
Speaker 6: giant breaking story like Charlie Kirk's assassination. You don't see
Speaker 6: a bunch of comments immediately out of people with the Dispatch.
Speaker 6: They wait until, you know, facts come out and things
Speaker 6: settle down a little bit before you start shooting your
Speaker 6: mouths off or tweeting your mouths off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a philosophy with us, and sometimes we've had
Speaker 1: to move quicker. After the attempted assassination, of Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: the president at that time of presidential candidate.
Speaker 2: In Butler, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: We moved very quickly to at least post the news
Speaker 1: and probably moved quicker with our follow up coverage the
Speaker 1: next day. But in general, we like to make sure
Speaker 1: we know what we're talking about, or that we don't
Speaker 1: sort of report anything in the seat of the moment
Speaker 1: that then just turns out to be all wrong in
Speaker 1: terms of the context. Context is a very big deal
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 6: So I have a pretty healthy dose of bipartisan discussed
Speaker 6: with politics all the way around, and you know, just
Speaker 6: the tone of things for quite a while now, and
Speaker 6: be nice if we can calm that down. And it
Speaker 6: kind of fits it with what I saw you saying
Speaker 6: the other day. I don't remember where I caught you,
Speaker 6: but you were a little not so fast on Governor
Speaker 6: Cox of Utah, even though I liked what he had
Speaker 6: to say. You don't think his tone is gonna work
Speaker 6: in our current politics?
Speaker 3: Is that correct?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think I meant that. I think what
Speaker 1: I was probably, of course, like you, I've been sort
Speaker 1: of providing so much analysis that I don't totally remember
Speaker 1: everything I said. But I think what I think the
Speaker 1: discussion you're probably referring to.
Speaker 2: Was a question of whether or not Governor.
Speaker 1: Box's approach to politics can can travel be on Utah,
Speaker 1: And I think I was trying to make the particular
Speaker 1: point that one of the reasons you can have a
Speaker 1: Governor Cox who is a Republican in Utah is because
Speaker 1: the incentive structure that he gets from Utah Republican voters
Speaker 1: is different than Republican voters in other states.
Speaker 3: So this, I love this, explain that to us.
Speaker 1: So and I'm not I'm not saying necessarily every single
Speaker 1: Republican leaning state would reject Governor Cox in a Republican primary,
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for reasons why, For instance, in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Mitt Romney was able to win a Republican
Speaker 1: primary being exactly who He was critical of Trump at
Speaker 1: times enough that people noticed, so it was a regular thing,
Speaker 1: but was still able to be the overwhelming favorite in
Speaker 1: the Republican primary. The reason Governor Cox has been able
Speaker 1: to succeed in Republican politics in Utah despite being critical
Speaker 1: at times enough that everybody notices of President Trump because
Speaker 1: Republican voters in Utah, although they're although they are supportive
Speaker 1: of Trump, and there is a strong you know, like
Speaker 1: sort of Maga faction or populist or just throw Trump
Speaker 1: faction of Republicans in Utah. The broad Republican electorate in
Speaker 1: Utah is basically a very very Republican state. By the numbers.
Speaker 1: They you know, look at politics and a sort of
Speaker 1: Reagan era with a Reagan era sense of of rules
Speaker 1: and decency and decorum. You know, they look at even
Speaker 1: the issue of illegal immigration, they look at a little
Speaker 1: bit differently and that they want a secure border, but
Speaker 1: you know, they believe in more immigration, and they believe
Speaker 1: that immigrants, even illegal immigrants, should be you know, treated
Speaker 1: not necessarily as criminals unless they are criminals. And so
Speaker 1: you can be critical of Donald Trump in Utah and
Speaker 1: win a Republican primary. Now, I don't think that you
Speaker 1: can be an opponent of Donald Trump and win a
Speaker 1: Republican primary in Utah.
Speaker 2: They still would prefer.
Speaker 1: Trump as president because he's a Republican and more likely
Speaker 1: to push conservative policies and support conservative values. But they
Speaker 1: will brook criticism and they will see that as a
Speaker 1: sign of leadership. And yes, there are Republicans in Utah
Speaker 1: that will run against that or speak out against that
Speaker 1: as being insufficiently conservative and too critical of Trump when
Speaker 1: we should be critical of the Democrats instead. They will say,
Speaker 1: but Utah is just a different sort of place, and
Speaker 1: it gives Governor Talk, you know. And I'm not taking
Speaker 1: away from his willingness to speak out in this way,
Speaker 1: But what I am saying is he does not have
Speaker 1: to now look over his shoulder in a primary for
Speaker 1: future office should he choose to run for another office
Speaker 1: after his time as governor is up, and he does
Speaker 1: not have to worry about a complete revolt of the
Speaker 1: Republican Party in Utah because of the things that he
Speaker 1: has said.
Speaker 6: Do you think he has any interest in running for president,
Speaker 6: like trying to beat up JD.
Speaker 3: Vance for the nomination.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, because I haven't asked him, and
Speaker 1: I never put it past the idea that somebody that
Speaker 1: rises to the level of governor or senator, you know,
Speaker 1: let alone dogcatcher, doesn't have it in their hand that they.
Speaker 2: Should be president.
Speaker 1: I don't know that a Republican like Governor Talks can
Speaker 1: win a Republican primary against a combative populist like JD.
Speaker 1: Vance or you know, pick somebody else. Because I think
Speaker 1: Republicans broadly, and particularly when you're looking in a lot
Speaker 1: of these early.
Speaker 2: States, but even beyond that, have.
Speaker 1: Would prefer somebody that they is left conciliatory and appears
Speaker 1: to be more of a fighter. One of the yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean think one of the reasons that
Speaker 1: a lot of Republican voters may at times look past
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's provocative language and behavior, even though they don't
Speaker 1: agree with it, is because they say to him, says, well,
Speaker 1: he's a fighter. He's fighting for us. He is not
Speaker 1: allowing the Democrats to do the sort of unfair things
Speaker 1: that we believe for years they were doing, and that
Speaker 1: the more sort of rules following the Korum following statesman
Speaker 1: like Republicans were allowing them to do. This idea of
Speaker 1: traditional conservatism where we're gonna again, I mean, Democrats will
Speaker 1: look at this differently, right, but like if you're an
Speaker 1: old school conservative of the Reagan mold, Reagan was plenty
Speaker 1: of fighter.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's not forget that.
Speaker 1: But this idea that listen, there are just rules we
Speaker 1: don't break, and even if they break them, we're going
Speaker 1: to argue that they shouldn't have broken the rules.
Speaker 2: But we're not going to do what they do.
Speaker 1: It's just out of fashion right now, Republicans. If you
Speaker 1: look at how Republicans conduct themselves broadly speaking, meaning lawmakers
Speaker 1: and the president, they really have adopted many of the
Speaker 1: tactics of the left and the Democratic Party, at least
Speaker 1: those that the Democratic Party and the left practiced, you
Speaker 1: know in my lifetime.
Speaker 2: In the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 1: And the early offs that Republicans used to complain about.
Speaker 1: And now what they've what they've done, is adopt those tactics.
Speaker 1: And you know, whether it's boycott's or cancel culture or
Speaker 1: stretching the bounds of executive authority by the president. I mean,
Speaker 1: in all these ways, and so.
Speaker 3: And the people.
Speaker 6: I can just hear people texting or saying to their
Speaker 6: radio right now, yes and now, and we control all
Speaker 6: three brands. So is the government from doing that? So
Speaker 6: it's been successful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think so. And look I think for
Speaker 1: you know, Republicans look at it this way too. I
Speaker 1: mean to be and I didn't I don't think my
Speaker 1: other comments were unfair, but you know, the old thing,
Speaker 1: to be fair, they watched Bill Clinton have an affair
Speaker 1: in the Oval office and lie about it. Democrats didn't
Speaker 1: have any problems with that. They never complained about it.
Speaker 1: They never said Bill Clinton should resign, They never said
Speaker 1: it was wrong. They basically were tribal. Well, Bill Clinton's
Speaker 1: our guy. He's doing a good job. Voters seem to
Speaker 1: like the job he's doing. Look what we've won because
Speaker 1: of Bill Clinton, and so that's okay. And and they,
Speaker 1: you know, from from a conservative point of view, they've
Speaker 1: seen all sorts of things like that. And so I'm
Speaker 1: not saying the right answer is therefore to act like them.
Speaker 1: But if you talk to Republicans, they're going to say,
Speaker 1: why are you on our case? Democrats have been doing
Speaker 1: this for years. The bra or analytical point I was
Speaker 1: making was we're you know, Republicans in a sense that, well,
Speaker 1: if you can't beat him, join a right, that's what
Speaker 1: they did.
Speaker 6: Right, How do we whether it's political violence? Though just
Speaker 6: you know x's and o's tactics in politics, how do
Speaker 6: we stop the race to the bottom? Though each side
Speaker 6: thinks the other side fights dirtier than them, so we
Speaker 6: need to adopt their tactics.
Speaker 3: Both sides think that. I mean, so where do you
Speaker 3: end up?
Speaker 6: I mean, you don't go anywhere good with that attitude.
Speaker 1: It's the biggest consistency in my twenty plus years of
Speaker 1: covering politics, both Republican operatives and Democratic operatives, never mind
Speaker 1: elected officials, consistently tell me the other side, the other
Speaker 1: side plays dirtier than us. I wish we played as
Speaker 1: dirty as them, then we would win as much as
Speaker 1: they did.
Speaker 3: That's incredible.
Speaker 1: The way the only way that any of this stops
Speaker 1: is somebody or both sides stop keeping score and just stop.
Speaker 1: You know, my this is I don't normally do personal
Speaker 1: anecdotes here, but I feel like it's like the best
Speaker 1: analogy I have. Some years back, four years ago or whatever,
Speaker 1: we were celebrating my in law's fiftieth wedding anniversary, and anyway,
Speaker 1: the rabbi who married my wife and I is a
Speaker 1: a a relative A couple of times removed something like that,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kessler, who passed away since, but Rabbi Kessler was
Speaker 1: there and we were, you know, asking him because he
Speaker 1: had been married fifty plus years, and I think my
Speaker 1: wife or I asked him like, how do you do it?
Speaker 1: How do you know we've been married at this point
Speaker 1: maybe ten years, nine years? I don't know, like, how
Speaker 1: how did you get to fifty plus years? And he
Speaker 1: just looked at Fuss and he said, you have to
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to know when to punt. And that
Speaker 1: sticks with me because you know, that's.
Speaker 3: What marriage advice right there.
Speaker 6: If nobody tells anything else from this, that is a
Speaker 6: good marriage advice.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I mean, if you look at the United
Speaker 1: States of America like an extended big family, we never punt.
Speaker 6: Well, either side ever punts. You go for it on
Speaker 6: fourth down always.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if that's not to say that what
Speaker 1: the assassination Charlie Kirk wasn't a distinct act with this
Speaker 1: with the suspect doing it for distinct political reasons. But
Speaker 1: when I'm asked the question where does this end, well,
Speaker 1: it either ends very badly or at some point people
Speaker 1: stop keeping score and say stop. Yeah, okay, Well I'm.
Speaker 3: Afraid we're out of time. David.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I like our chances at least
Speaker 6: in the short term on that. But appreciate your talk today,
Speaker 6: David Drucker of The Dispatch, Thanks for coming on, David.
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Speaker 6: legged chick playing golf, I keep seeing that up on television.
Speaker 3: Wondered with that. Was she's the poor girl we got
Speaker 3: her leg bit off by a shark. Yeah, a arm
Speaker 3: and leg.
Speaker 6: Wow, she's she's hitting a golf ball with one arm
Speaker 6: and one leg.
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Speaker 6: Because the legend has it? That's a bad idea it's
Speaker 6: very tiring, at least, that's what the legend is. Incredibly exhausting. Well,
Speaker 6: good for her, I just yeah, yeah, obviously, good for her.
Speaker 6: She's overcoming something I can't even imagine. But man, I
Speaker 6: think I just decide my golfing days are behind me.
Speaker 8: Man, she was fifteen years old when this, when she
Speaker 8: got attacked by the shark.
Speaker 3: Horrible, horrible, amazing that she lived through that.
Speaker 6: But so you sure it's the same person because the
Speaker 6: woman I saw up there, I noticed the one leg
Speaker 6: because she hits the ball and then she hasked to
Speaker 6: hop afterwards, just from the momentum of the swing.
Speaker 3: But she's swinging with one arm too. Yeah, she should.
Speaker 6: Challenge all other one legged, one armed people do a
Speaker 6: golf match.
Speaker 3: I'll bet she could beat them. Oh, I'm sure of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's the same one.
Speaker 8: Because she's going to be on one of our big
Speaker 8: morning talk shows this morning.
Speaker 3: So oh, okay, Cools probably why good for her. We're
Speaker 3: going to talk to one Joe Getty coming up in
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 6: He's going to play golf with both legs and both
Speaker 6: arms that he has.
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Speaker 2: Here Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6: Before we get to our special guest, Joe Getty, who
Speaker 6: will reveal why he's not here today and all that
Speaker 6: sort of stuff, I need to tell the story, either
Speaker 6: now or later about this Ukrainian woman that has fallen
Speaker 6: in love.
Speaker 3: With me and keeps emailing me. Okay, and yeah, it's
Speaker 3: quite the story.
Speaker 6: That can't be a scam, right, No, it's obviously a scam,
Speaker 6: but it's pretty entertaining. And mostly what I'm getting out
Speaker 6: of it is do people actually fall for this? And
Speaker 6: if they do, how incredibly sad is that? I'll have
Speaker 6: to read you some of the emails. I mean, they're
Speaker 6: so over the top. Anyway, I'll get to that later. Currently, though,
Speaker 6: we need to welcome the ga half of Armstrong and
Speaker 6: Getty to the show, Joe Getty Joe Hey.
Speaker 4: During these ugly times. I suggest you let love bloom
Speaker 4: write that gal back.
Speaker 3: Oh, I responded initially to keep it going.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, I don't know how she got she I'm
Speaker 6: sure there's no she involved. If there's even a human involved,
Speaker 6: it might just be a bot. But you know it's
Speaker 6: some scamsters.
Speaker 3: But there was nothing.
Speaker 6: So somehow they they got my email and knew I
Speaker 6: was a male. So this is a person portraying themselves
Speaker 6: when they include pictures, and she's like twenty years old.
Speaker 6: Appears to me you're a little young for me, this
Speaker 6: hot Ukrainian woman who has fallen in love with me
Speaker 6: just from my picture. Somebody showed me your picture and
Speaker 6: I just couldn't stop thinking about you, and so I
Speaker 6: thought I would email you and think they see if
Speaker 6: there's a chance we could be together or something, would
Speaker 6: you please correspond with me? And and I and uh,
Speaker 6: And there were no links so you know, to click
Speaker 6: on or anything like that.
Speaker 3: So I thought, I.
Speaker 6: Don't think I can do myself any harm here, so
Speaker 6: I just made yeah, sure, go for it. I emailed back,
Speaker 6: and and then since then I just get these regular
Speaker 6: emails about it, how in love she is with me
Speaker 6: and everything like that. It's been going on for quite
Speaker 6: a while. Today's was though, she is so sad that
Speaker 6: she has not received my letter. I've been waiting by
Speaker 6: the mailbox every single day, and now I'm sad because
Speaker 6: I came to the internet cafe and I haven't found
Speaker 6: your answer in my email or a letter in my mailbox.
Speaker 6: Maybe you were busy and did not have the time
Speaker 6: to answer. I was an art gallery today and I
Speaker 6: saw a painting of a man and a woman holding hands,
Speaker 6: and I thought of you and me and how we
Speaker 6: could spend the rest of our lives holding hands like this.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's good. Stop.
Speaker 3: But I thought, dude, are there people that fall for this?
Speaker 6: Because I assume the next step is either a hyper
Speaker 6: link that you know, hacks into my computer or some
Speaker 6: sort of ask for money.
Speaker 4: Right. I'm impressed by the sophistication of it, though, I mean,
Speaker 4: how long ago was it that it was just I
Speaker 4: am being a Nigerian prince for you? I have your
Speaker 4: lockery winnings.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wonder what the ask is going to be though,
Speaker 6: probably just a link, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, money, Well, he's gonna have you wire her money
Speaker 4: because you know she needs it to whatever.
Speaker 6: Her mother has cancer to conduct to come to the
Speaker 6: United States and be with me. Yeah that too, Yeah
Speaker 6: yeah maybe movie. Maybe soon you and me will be
Speaker 6: walking in a beautiful park, holding each other's hands and talking, dreaming.
Speaker 6: Life is so short and we should value every moment
Speaker 6: of it. I'm sending you my air kiss and waiting
Speaker 6: for your answer with impatience.
Speaker 4: Wow. Wow, it's good writing.
Speaker 6: Anyway, she's really into me, You gotta you can blame her.
Speaker 3: Yes, love happens in weird ways.
Speaker 6: It's unpredictable. Uh so, why are you not here today?
Speaker 6: I couldn't help but notice when I walked into the
Speaker 6: studio you were not here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well excuse me. Greetings from a scenic, foggy, chili
Speaker 4: pebble Beach, California.
Speaker 3: Wemus golf courses in the world.
Speaker 6: Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, As a matter of fact, I'm down here
Speaker 4: for an annual trip with a bunch of good old
Speaker 4: buddies to play all for three days, and the skullduggery
Speaker 4: has already begun. We were out last night having a
Speaker 4: nice meal and a few drinks, and just when I
Speaker 4: was aware that I'd had plenty, another drink mysteriously appeared
Speaker 4: in front of me by my arch nemesis Jim, who
Speaker 4: is clearly trying to cripple me and reduce my capabilities
Speaker 4: on a golf course by successfully making me significantly hungover
Speaker 4: this morning.
Speaker 3: I hate to hear that you're overserved.
Speaker 4: Well, but what's the gentleman to do. A fine, perfectly
Speaker 4: good drink appears in front of them. What am I
Speaker 4: going to do? Pour it out or pretend to sip
Speaker 4: at it? No, certainly not. I'm going to draw down
Speaker 4: it like kool aid and regret it in the morning.
Speaker 6: So you're playing pebble beach golf course, No, sir, No,
Speaker 6: you're playing a dipple golf course.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we're playing at the Monterey Peninsula Country.
Speaker 3: Club and that's a private one.
Speaker 4: Yes it is, yes, hard. You will not be admitted
Speaker 4: if you appear at the gate.
Speaker 3: What would it cost to become a there?
Speaker 4: Oh, let's not throw around. You know that's a rude.
Speaker 4: What monetary figures?
Speaker 3: What have you heard?
Speaker 4: It's it's significant a lot. It is six figures for
Speaker 4: sure to join, Yes, sir, that's the cover charge. Wow?
Speaker 3: And you know somebody who gets you on there is
Speaker 3: that what happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, old old friend. Yeah, I've been coming down
Speaker 4: here for years. It's it is spectacular. I mean it sits.
Speaker 4: There are two courses. They sit right between Pebble Beach
Speaker 4: and uh, Spanish Bay for folks who know the area.
Speaker 4: Does it right on the ocean?
Speaker 3: Does it make Pebble Beach look like a putt putt course?
Speaker 4: Like a muni? Yeah, like an eight dollars muni. Now
Speaker 4: you know, Pebble Beach has some magnificent holes and and
Speaker 4: if you've ever played it, a number that are fine.
Speaker 4: Mpcc is is pretty much spectacular stem to stern. But
Speaker 4: I'm a lucky fella.
Speaker 6: And uh and have you ever have you? Have you
Speaker 6: played it well when you've played it in the past?
Speaker 4: Zis Yeah, up and down. You get distracted by the scenery. Honestly,
Speaker 4: it's just so pretty. But who knows. The golf is
Speaker 4: a stupid game, a waste of time and money and
Speaker 4: a good walk spoiled as Twain. As Twain put it,
Speaker 4: So we'll see what if you get it. I was
Speaker 4: excited about this morning to read in the journal that
Speaker 4: cocaine is making a big company.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did all those stats.
Speaker 6: Isn't that funny the day after we had that conversation about, Wow,
Speaker 6: young people are doing hard drugs again, blah blah blah.
Speaker 6: It's the surest and cheapest it's been in forever.
Speaker 4: Right, And I love that the use on the West
Speaker 4: Coast has increased like one hundred and fifty four percent
Speaker 4: or something like that, and on the East coast not
Speaker 4: so much. But La, I'm looking at you really with
Speaker 4: the cocaine again. So is that what you're been through?
Speaker 1: This?
Speaker 4: Is that what you remember? The suburban dads and moms
Speaker 4: who ruin their family finances and the crack heads on
Speaker 4: the strip. Do you know remember that? Well? The young
Speaker 4: people don't.
Speaker 6: So is that where you're doing today? To get back
Speaker 6: in the game. You're a little hungover, a little tired,
Speaker 6: you get ready for the first tea.
Speaker 4: A couple of lines, yeah, yeah. A lot of golf
Speaker 4: courses they have teas out for you, or you know,
Speaker 4: ballmark repaired tools or whatever. Yeah, the better courses have
Speaker 4: lines of blow if you, you know, need a little
Speaker 4: pick me up, fantastic. I've said it a million times.
Speaker 4: And if there are any young people listening, if you
Speaker 4: want a drug that turns you into an a hole,
Speaker 4: pardon me, do a little cocaine turns you into complete
Speaker 4: raving jackass of a person.
Speaker 3: What's the appeal?
Speaker 4: Then it makes you feel like you're the king of
Speaker 4: the world. That's what they tell me, the druggies. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just you feel like the master of the universe,
Speaker 4: which and full of energy, and you want to chat
Speaker 4: with people and pretend to listen to them, then chat more.
Speaker 4: And it's just so.
Speaker 6: But feeling like the king of the world would make
Speaker 6: you an a whole because lots of people who think
Speaker 6: they're the king of the world or a holes.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and people who are doing cocaine just prattle
Speaker 4: on and on about nothing, and it makes you selfish
Speaker 4: and you just want more cocaine. And it's yeah, it's
Speaker 4: not good. I've seen the dynamic play out many times
Speaker 4: and it does not turn you into a good person.
Speaker 4: But what time is it speaking to young people if
Speaker 4: I might indulge myself For Armstrong and Getty ogs who've
Speaker 4: been listening since the beginning, you may recall me calling
Speaker 4: in from the hospital announcing the birth of kidnumber three,
Speaker 4: the fabulous Delany May. That was twenty six years ago today. Wow,
Speaker 4: make us all feel.
Speaker 3: Old Wow, I don't know if that was helpful.
Speaker 4: Happy birthday, little d although she is in class law
Speaker 4: school and not listening to this drivel.
Speaker 3: Have you seen the one legged girl hitting the golf balls,
Speaker 3: making the rounds today?
Speaker 4: It's on all the people again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good.
Speaker 6: She's the poor girl who got her arm and leg
Speaker 6: eaten off by a shark last year. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 6: there's she's got a golf thing going now and she's
Speaker 6: on the you know, speaking circuit to you know, help
Speaker 6: you overcome your challenges. I mean, if you're playing golf
Speaker 6: with one arm on one leg, you're overcoming challenges.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt.
Speaker 4: God, I can't imagine she has a prosthetic. I imagine. I
Speaker 4: initially just literally pictured somebody playing golf on one leg,
Speaker 4: and you would have to have spectacular balance.
Speaker 6: Well she she yeah, that's what she does. She she
Speaker 6: hits the ball and then she bounces a lot to
Speaker 6: stay up.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, oh I've got to see that. God, that's
Speaker 4: you know, honestly, you know, the whole Speaker's circuit overcoming
Speaker 4: your difficulties thing. I mean, I'm old and bitter, so
Speaker 4: it's it's almost half a cliche. But imagine the courage
Speaker 4: and patience. Oh my god, it takes it. Really, it
Speaker 4: actually is inspiring.
Speaker 6: So got a question for you. I want to ask
Speaker 6: your opinion on this before you have to go, okay,
Speaker 6: nurse your hangover. I don't know if you've heard this
Speaker 6: or not. So you remember after Charlie Kirk was shot,
Speaker 6: they immediately had an old guy on the ground and
Speaker 6: thought he was the shooter, and then he got cleared. Well,
Speaker 6: the story that is out now that old guy yelled
Speaker 6: it's me.
Speaker 3: I did it.
Speaker 6: I shot him immediately after the shooting to distract, he says,
Speaker 6: his own words, to distract the police from the actual shooter.
Speaker 6: Is it even conceivable that a seventy one year old
Speaker 6: man could come up with that plan in a nanosecond
Speaker 6: like that?
Speaker 3: I just I find that very difficult to believe.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's that's an interesting point slash question.
Speaker 6: This is going to drive conspiracies forever, obviously, because it's
Speaker 6: pretty hard to swallow that. I know what I'll do?
Speaker 6: You think it like two seconds?
Speaker 4: Well, he says it was to help the killer escape, right,
Speaker 4: I suppose you could cook that up quickly. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've known you never crossed my mind. Well, you're not nuts.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I've known a couple of people in my life who
Speaker 4: are very very bright and very very cuckoo, and I
Speaker 4: wonder if this is just that the guy is just that.
Speaker 4: So you think, do you actually think they were in
Speaker 4: cahoots or just that it's hard to believe they're not.
Speaker 3: It's pretty damned hard to believe they're not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I took this story at
Speaker 4: face value, but I agree it's odd. You know, It's
Speaker 4: bothered me because, of course a bunch of old guys
Speaker 4: that are sitting around watching Fox News getting angry at
Speaker 4: the world. Is that the video is coming in from
Speaker 4: around the country of in particular college campuses, where it's
Speaker 4: not like two or three people acting happy, it's a dozen.
Speaker 4: It's twenty dancing around and mocking Charlie Kirk and laughing.
Speaker 3: That's weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And the demographic composition of those people is
Speaker 4: interesting too, But it's I think that sort of ugly
Speaker 4: nihilism is more common than we imagined. Well, what's the
Speaker 4: demographic Well, obviously it's a lot of young people. There
Speaker 4: were several predominantly black crowds that were just having a
Speaker 4: huge laugh about it, which is not to suggest that
Speaker 4: black people in particular are callous to this sort of thing.
Speaker 3: But I don't remember him having a racial angle to
Speaker 3: any of his stuff.
Speaker 4: I mean, no, he didn't. I just think he is
Speaker 4: seen as part of the white establishment, the you know,
Speaker 4: the patriarchy, the you.
Speaker 3: Know the bet Wow, that's disturbing.
Speaker 4: It, it really is. I don't think. The other hand,
Speaker 4: it be hard.
Speaker 6: To name a person that I would get gleeful about
Speaker 6: finding out they got shot in the neck and they're
Speaker 6: a parent of young children. I can't even come up
Speaker 6: with anybody hardly.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, even the worst criminal I'd much for
Speaker 4: further dealt with through the judicial system. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's truly sick and nihilistic and kind of disturbing.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, I'm sure you've heard that there
Speaker 4: have been thousands, thousands of applications to form new Turning
Speaker 4: Point USA chapters across campuses all all across America, high
Speaker 4: schools and colleges, which, you know, God willing will be
Speaker 4: the legacy of poor Charlie Kirk that his message got
Speaker 4: through and grew and grew even after he was gone.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I hope they can keep it on the rails,
Speaker 6: because you know, there's a there's a fair amount of
Speaker 6: blood lust out there where David Drucker and I were
Speaker 6: just talking about that. I mean, it's just it's just
Speaker 6: so easy to go down the road of the tip
Speaker 6: for tat.
Speaker 3: They did this, we'll do that back and forth, right.
Speaker 4: You know there is something easy about anger?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Anybody who's ever been angry, he knows it's a hell
Speaker 4: of a lot easier to stay angry than to calm
Speaker 4: down and work through a problem, starting with me.
Speaker 3: So yeah, anyway, a scale of one to ten, how
Speaker 3: hungover are you?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Two?
Speaker 3: Oh two? Well that's yeah.
Speaker 4: I went to bed immediately, sucked down a bunch of water,
Speaker 4: and uh, I'm fine, I'm fine.
Speaker 3: What does a ten look like in your mind?
Speaker 4: Oh? Good lord, it's well, it's been a very long time.
Speaker 3: Are you crawling out of bed with a ten?
Speaker 4: Do you remember that night in San Francisco we were
Speaker 4: out to like three am, which on the air at
Speaker 4: six that was a ten?
Speaker 3: Okay, you are knee walking drunk.
Speaker 4: I was. I should have been hospitalized, Michael. I regret it.
Speaker 4: And kids, remember old Uncle Joe's warning about cocaine over
Speaker 4: indulgence in spirits will do the same thing. Do you
Speaker 4: stay away. It's a nice coco.
Speaker 6: You're not a drinker, Michael. It's not really how drunk
Speaker 6: you were, although that plays a role. It's the amount
Speaker 6: of sleep, water, and food that you get in between
Speaker 6: the next thing you have to do.
Speaker 4: That's really definitely a factor.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's Joe Getty, everybody, He'll check in getting tomorrow.
Speaker 6: We got to take a break.
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Speaker 4: In a case of insure, but.
Speaker 9: Joe's agent keeps stressing that Joe's a limited time offer.
Speaker 4: Time's running out.
Speaker 3: We just don't know when.
Speaker 6: Those are age jokes about Joe Biden from Greg Guttfeld.
Speaker 6: That's what that is right now. I don't know if
Speaker 6: you know this, but Katie, Katie the news Lady Katie Green,
Speaker 6: her dad was a judge for a very long time.
Speaker 6: He's a retired Superior court judge in Alameda County. That's
Speaker 6: where Oakland is, and we're going to talk to him
Speaker 6: an hour three a little bit about the situation with
Speaker 6: the shooter in Utah and these kind of court cases
Speaker 6: and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: So that'll kick off our three.
Speaker 6: I hope you can get it if you don't get
Speaker 6: the podcast, Armstrong and get on demand. I don't know
Speaker 6: if you've seen that. A TikTok deal looks like it's
Speaker 6: gonna happen. We are going to have a report on
Speaker 6: that a little bit later. The confusing part, though, is
Speaker 6: I can't always forget nobody on this show uses TikTok.
Speaker 3: You use TikTok though, right, you have it on your phone?
Speaker 3: I do, okay, and you like it?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Well, eh, somewhat.
Speaker 8: The algorithm's all screwed up for me, so it's feeding
Speaker 8: me a bunch of you know, like we talked about this,
Speaker 8: I think on the One More Thing podcast. For some reason,
Speaker 8: they keep getting these muck bangs or people are just
Speaker 8: eating an obnoxious amounts of food like slobs.
Speaker 6: Well, the algorithm is supposed to be like the best
Speaker 6: invented by anybody out there in terms of determining what
Speaker 6: you like. Apparently your's got thrown off somehow. But yeah,
Speaker 6: But the whole thing with TikTok is the algorithm. It's ingenious,
Speaker 6: better than anything youtubes come up with, their Instagrams come
Speaker 6: up with, anybody's come up with for keeping you engaged,
Speaker 6: figuring out the sort of stuff you're gonna want to
Speaker 6: watch and click on, TikTok's really good at that.
Speaker 3: Well, so, the big deal with.
Speaker 6: The settlement with China hinges on the algorithm, and CNBC
Speaker 6: reported that they will keep more or less the same
Speaker 6: algorithm when it's in the hands of American Corporation. But
Speaker 6: The Wall Street Journal says, no, no, no, it's got
Speaker 6: to be a completely different algorithm. Well, if it's a
Speaker 6: completely different algorithm, it's it's like, have you ever this
Speaker 6: happens a lot. You eat a historic restaurant and then
Speaker 6: on the menu they got information about the restaurant, and
Speaker 6: it always says it burned down in eighteen twenty then
Speaker 6: was rebuilt, and I always or you know, okay, well,
Speaker 6: then it's not the same historic restaurant that Wyatt shot
Speaker 6: somebody in or whatever the hell this place is famous for.
Speaker 6: It burnt down, you rebuilt it. It's a different place.
Speaker 6: It's just in the same spot. It's like TikTok, it's
Speaker 6: going to have the same name, but if it has
Speaker 6: a new algorithm, it's not TikTok. It's just something else.
Speaker 6: So that's the part I don't quite get. But at
Speaker 6: least it won't be a Chinese spy app anymore, which
Speaker 6: is the thing that Congress. The reason Congress said it's
Speaker 6: got to go, and why the Supreme Court voted nine
Speaker 6: to oh that yeah, they upheld that law and everything.
Speaker 6: So we'll get more on that a little bit later.
Speaker 6: I do want to talk about the pot luck I
Speaker 6: went to and the baked chicken that Henry and I
Speaker 6: made and how that went. It was much more difficult
Speaker 6: than I should have been. If you miss Seke making
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