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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in What Driving the Great Episode two eighteen. We

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been on in a week and a half. I've

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<v Speaker 2>traveled halfway around the world. We've had a ton to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to see diora former What's Right co hosts,

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<v Speaker 2>perform in a great plague at UC Santa Cruz wearing

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<v Speaker 2>their gear. Went to Japan, saw some awesome castles. If

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to my wife tell the story, I was

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<v Speaker 2>so excited about seeing one of these castles that I

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<v Speaker 2>almost teared up about it. Maybe we'll get into that

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<v Speaker 2>later in the show. While I was gone, Lebron James

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<v Speaker 2>scored his forty thousandth point, and I know it makes

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<v Speaker 2>me lame to care about it, even though Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>once one a time got an on court trophy for

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<v Speaker 2>scoring his thirty thousandth point, even though he was the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth guy to do it. But more on that in

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. First, here's what missed the cut, Adam Schefter,

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<v Speaker 2>further confirming the story we already knew, which is that

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco didn't even scout Patrick Malmes even though they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a quarterback, and they did have the number

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<v Speaker 2>three pick of that draft, Carlos out or number two

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<v Speaker 2>pick of the draft Carlos Alcarez pdra feel Nadal in

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas and Jacksonville Jaguars wish a defensive tackle happy birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they cut him later that day. Demons, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you? I'm doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Good hand complaint.

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<v Speaker 2>You're dressed for your office job instead of the pod today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know if we're used to seeing

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<v Speaker 2>you in the in the stafford button down if people

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<v Speaker 2>are watching on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if I can

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<v Speaker 4>wear the short ins of the office. The button on

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<v Speaker 4>this on the sleeve is broken. I realized that after

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<v Speaker 4>I get in here this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, you can. You just roll it up,

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<v Speaker 2>Just roll it up to the album and you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>totally fine. By the way, speaking of thank you, excited

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<v Speaker 2>to see you. Speaking of YouTube, I was scrolling through

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<v Speaker 2>the iTunes podcast numbers and we have plummeted down the

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<v Speaker 2>ranks because again they like reward new subscriptions. I'm not sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but but I have not asked you guys to like

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<v Speaker 2>rate subscriber review in years. We just play at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of every episode. This video I recorded from my

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<v Speaker 2>house I think with a ponytail two years. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go ahead and ask today for you to like

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<v Speaker 2>rate subscribe review on iTunes, Spotify and on YouTube. Please

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<v Speaker 2>try to juice those numbers as we get going for

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<v Speaker 2>our NBA playoff. Push demons, go ahead and get us

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<v Speaker 2>started if you would.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Like you said, Lebron just continues to make history.

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<v Speaker 4>He just scored his forty eight thousand points as forty

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<v Speaker 4>one thousand points.

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<v Speaker 3>I should say, but is one.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the biggest reasons that you've been the huge Lebron

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<v Speaker 4>support you've been is because of his consistency.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it still seems like he's got a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>in the tank.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, Well, listen, we know he's the best

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<v Speaker 2>old player ever, and we know he was the best

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<v Speaker 2>teenager ever, and these things are not even in dispute.

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<v Speaker 2>But I yesterday on TV we said that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't want to have a big goat debate about this,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it turned into a big goat debate, and

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<v Speaker 2>I got very frustrated with it because, as you guys know,

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<v Speaker 2>and we did a wh whole anthology series on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are three guys who have credible arguments

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<v Speaker 2>for the greatest player of all time, Michael Jordan, Kareem

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<v Speaker 2>Abdul Jabbar, Lebron James. I think if anybody and we should,

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<v Speaker 2>we should flip the rundown on the left hand side.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do Lebron stuff first, and then the Russ

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<v Speaker 2>if you're watching on YouTube. But I think anybody that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to argue adamantly that any of those three

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<v Speaker 2>should be dismissed out of hand is being intellectually dishonest.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a Jordan guy. I understand the argument. I

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<v Speaker 2>personally think that Lebron, I'm sorry that Kareem gets the

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<v Speaker 2>total short end of the stick. I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest ever, but he has a hell of a case,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you expand it past what they did in

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA, he probably is the best case. But even

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<v Speaker 2>just for NBA, of the three contenders, nobody has more rings,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody has more MVPs, nobody has more, does Kaream have

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<v Speaker 2>nine or ten finals appearances? Lebron might have more finals appearances,

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<v Speaker 2>but there and up until a year ago, nobody had

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<v Speaker 2>more points. So I think there's a credible argument for him,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously I think there is a lengthy, credible argument

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<v Speaker 2>for Lebron. What is so frustrating to me is so

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<v Speaker 2>many of the folks who believe it's Jordan, which is

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<v Speaker 2>an obviously legitimate position to hold, argue their case in

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<v Speaker 2>such an illegitimate manner. They argue their case, and in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, such an intellectually dishonest manner, where things that

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<v Speaker 2>counted for Jordan if you count them for Lebron, they

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<v Speaker 2>scoff at it. And I'll use the forty thousand, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand points thing as an example. Michael Jordan got an

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<v Speaker 2>it was flying around Twitter yesterday, a trophy this big

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<v Speaker 2>about the size of the Larry O'Brien trophy for getting

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<v Speaker 2>to thirty thousand points when at the when he got there,

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Malone was already there, Wilt was already there, Kareem

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<v Speaker 2>was already there. A stop the game, take the trophy

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<v Speaker 2>moment for thirty thousand, Lebron gets to forty and people like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>or you're not seriously gonna make this part of the

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<v Speaker 2>goat debate, are you. Well, it's part of it. But

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<v Speaker 2>the other so Brew on the show yesterday said listen,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't do goats by longevity. We do goats by peak,

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually disagree. I think it is a tapestry.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is all of the above to a degree.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that a lot of people would argue Randy

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<v Speaker 2>Moss had a higher peak than Jerry Rice, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was close. They're two peaks, and Rice's longevity is so

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrably better. He's universally regarded as the goat wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's all of the above is how

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<v Speaker 2>we do it. But when we say, okay, let's talk peaks,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is where the Jordan folks, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>are dishonest. What is peak. We're talking one season, because

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<v Speaker 2>there is no single season Michael Jordan ever had better

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<v Speaker 2>than Lebron James's twenty thirteen season. It doesn't exist. In

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen, for Lebron James, he was the league MVP,

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<v Speaker 2>he was the Finals MVP. He had a damn near

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<v Speaker 2>perfect game six of the Finals down three to two,

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<v Speaker 2>and then a perfect game seven of the finals thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven and twelve and the game winning jump shot over

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<v Speaker 2>Kawhi Leonard and oh yeah, by the way, during that

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<v Speaker 2>year they had a twenty seven game winning streak and

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<v Speaker 2>he was three votes away from winning Defensive Player of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year. There is fine the Jordans season that matches

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't people like, Oh but Michael Jordan won

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<v Speaker 2>MVP and Defensive Player of the Year in the same

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<v Speaker 2>year he did in a year he did not even

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<v Speaker 2>make it to the finals, let alone win the championship.

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<v Speaker 2>So when are we talking Jordan's peak? Are we talking

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<v Speaker 2>one year? Then Lebron's peak was higher? Are we talking

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<v Speaker 2>two years? Well, then it's gonna be an argument, because

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James in twelve and thirteen, when one he damn

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<v Speaker 2>near shot sixty percent from the field, won back to

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<v Speaker 2>back league MVPs, back to back finals MVPs, beat two

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<v Speaker 2>all time teams in those NBA finals, with seven Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Famers on those teams between them. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems pretty good that. Now does that match up to

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan's two year peak? They're at least equivalent Jordan ninety

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<v Speaker 2>two to ninety three with a couple of league Well,

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<v Speaker 2>actually that was only one league MVP now I think

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<v Speaker 2>of it, because Barkley's won at ninety three, Jordan probably

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<v Speaker 2>should have two finals MVPs. They're at least close. Three

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<v Speaker 2>year peak. That goes to Jordan. Lebron never won three

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<v Speaker 2>MVPs in a row. Jordan did neither. But Lebron never

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<v Speaker 2>won three titles in a row. Jordan did. Four year peak.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it tilts back to Lebron. James, Wait, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean, Nick Well? Four years? What four years are

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<v Speaker 2>we talking about your Oh? Nick, you mean you're holding

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<v Speaker 2>against Michael Jordan when he didn't play. Yes, not holding

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<v Speaker 2>against it, I mean, but it is. It is. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is where I say people are dishonest. People will

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<v Speaker 2>then say that you are being dishonest if you count

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<v Speaker 2>years in the order in which they happened on the calendar.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, that is crazy. You're gonna count nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four. It's like, well, it wasn't mythical, it existed. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's ludicrous to do that five year, four year peak.

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<v Speaker 2>Though maybe you could argue jordan five year peak. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't find me Jordan's best five years, and you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to likely go eighty nine to ninety three. You could

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<v Speaker 2>go ninety four to ninety eight, but then you have

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<v Speaker 2>to include the year Shack and Penny beat him in

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<v Speaker 2>round two, which again, I know you're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that year. That year didn't happen, but it

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<v Speaker 2>really did. The games were on TV and everything. You

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<v Speaker 2>could bet on them, you could watch them. I know

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<v Speaker 2>there is a whole generation of people that have been

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<v Speaker 2>tricked into believing it's this weird thing where it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't mention those two years that Jordan didn't win

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<v Speaker 2>the title in the middle of the six rings, but

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<v Speaker 2>they can say he would have won eight in a

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<v Speaker 2>row if he didn't quit. But one of those years

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<v Speaker 2>they're saying he would have won the title, he did

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<v Speaker 2>play and lost to a team that didn't even go

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<v Speaker 2>win the title. They got swept. But you find me

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<v Speaker 2>a better five year peak than Lebron James from twelve

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<v Speaker 2>to sixteen, twenty twelve, NBA Champion League MVP Finals MVP

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen, twenty seven game winning streak, NBA Or League

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<v Speaker 2>MVP Finals MVP twenty fourteen, shot fifty eight percent from

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<v Speaker 2>the field in the finals fifty to forty nine, fifty

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<v Speaker 2>percent from three and the guy guarding him one Finals MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>The next year thirty six, thirteen to nine in the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA Finals with Matthew Delavadova as his second best player

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<v Speaker 2>on his team and the guy guarding him one Finals MVP,

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<v Speaker 2>and the next year three to one comeback on a

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<v Speaker 2>seventy three win team. You find me a better five

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<v Speaker 2>year run? Find it? I'm excited to see it. But

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't exist. So what are we talking? Peak? So

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<v Speaker 2>the point I am making there is the peak argument

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron Michael is at least one that can be debated.

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<v Speaker 2>Define peak. If it's one year, it's Lebron. If it's

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<v Speaker 2>two year, it's probably a tie. If it's three year,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Jordan. If it's four year, and you go by

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<v Speaker 2>actual years on the calendar, it's clearly Lebron. If you

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<v Speaker 2>go by years, Michael Jordan would count, then it's Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>We go back and forth with it. If it's ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>it's clearly Lebron. But then's probably not peak, except for

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron's peak really was ten years because he won his

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<v Speaker 2>first title in twenty twelve and his last title in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, so that's a decade stretch. But set that aside.

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<v Speaker 2>So peak is an argument. Longevity is not extended excellence

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<v Speaker 2>is not that the gap between Lebron James and Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan career points is greater than the gap between Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan and Reggie Miller career points. Lebron is gonna finish

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<v Speaker 2>probably he's right now fourth. He's probably gonna finish second,

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<v Speaker 2>at least third in assists something. Jordan's not in the

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<v Speaker 2>top thirty. On the longevity piece of it, Lebron's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>finish with double double the all nbas So if one

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<v Speaker 2>piece of the argument is an argument and the other

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<v Speaker 2>is not, but then what you decide is those things

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<v Speaker 2>don't count. And this is where the argument becomes frustrating

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<v Speaker 2>for me. If someone were to say the twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 2>finals is disqualifying for Lebron. I disagree with it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'll listen to it. But if I say the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that Michael Jordan played five years of his career without

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<v Speaker 2>Scottie Pippen and all five years was below five hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>should that be disqualifying? People just react like you spit

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<v Speaker 2>at him, like, oh, you're gonna bring up the Wizard's ears.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, guys, was he playing. Was he younger

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<v Speaker 2>when he started with the Wizards than Lebron is right now?

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. At one point people would say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna bring up his first few years in the NBA. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because Michael as a rookie was the

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<v Speaker 2>same age Lebron was when he was in the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>Finals carrying Booby Gibson and the seven Calves to those

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<v Speaker 2>finals at twenty two years old. Oh you're gonna use

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two year old Jordan the fact he wasn't about

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred against him. You use the fact that twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two year old Lebron lost in the NBA finals against him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not four and six without dragging that tea there.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want an honest discussion and if for and

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<v Speaker 2>if the answer is it's about rings. The whole point

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<v Speaker 2>of the sport is about championships. Michael has six, Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>has four. Shut up, I don't want to hear it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine. Then let's talk about Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Can

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<v Speaker 2>we let's talk about him? Because how many rings? Does

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<v Speaker 2>he have? Six? What did he how did he look

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<v Speaker 2>right at the beginning of his career before he got

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<v Speaker 2>Magic Johnson? I don't know. Year two, he was the

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<v Speaker 2>league MVP, he was the scoring champion, was the finals MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the best player on maybe the best team ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good, This is pretty good. What was his longevity? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he played twenty one seasons. How good was he at

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<v Speaker 2>the end? Well, I don't know. In nineteen eighty eight

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<v Speaker 2>NBA Finals, the game win play of the most important

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<v Speaker 2>game was drawn up for him, and he drew and

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<v Speaker 2>he drew the fall and hit the two free throws.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's pretty good at that age. Three years older

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<v Speaker 2>than George, two years older than Michael was when he

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<v Speaker 2>was limped around for the Wizards. So if we want

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<v Speaker 2>to just, oh, how many points Michael was the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>scorer ever? Does he have as many points as scream

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<v Speaker 2>nose about five thousand short. Oh that's odd, Well, Michael

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<v Speaker 2>was Michael's apex was the highest. Does he have the

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<v Speaker 2>most MVPs? No, actually, Kaream has six and Kaream won

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<v Speaker 2>his six in his first ten years. What was that peak?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, pretty high, just kept winning him How

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<v Speaker 2>long was Kareem's peak? While he won a finals MVP

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<v Speaker 2>in year two and a finals MVP in year fifteen?

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<v Speaker 2>And uh welles, how did Kaream deal with the pressures

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<v Speaker 2>of being in the league. Well, I don't know. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a black Muslim revolutionary in the nineteen seventies, changed

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<v Speaker 2>his name, got death threats, and soldiered on for twenty years,

0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't take any breaks from the sport, kept playing. So

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<v Speaker 2>you want to have a real argument, let's have the

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<v Speaker 2>real argument. If you want to change the argument too,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan is the greatest ever, and the way every

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<v Speaker 2>other basketball player ever will be judged will be how

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<v Speaker 2>close are they to Jordan? Then that's fine, but just

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<v Speaker 2>be honest that that's what you're doing, because that is

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Kobe as great as he was, part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Kobe legend is not that Kobe was even

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<v Speaker 2>better than Tim Duncan, which he wasn't. Kobe's an All timer,

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<v Speaker 2>the very close Duncan was better. It was Kobe is

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<v Speaker 2>the closest we've ever seen to Jordan, And for some

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<v Speaker 2>people that means Kobe is the next player. But the

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<v Speaker 2>goal is to not be Michael Jordan. The goal is

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<v Speaker 2>to be the best player possible. And the thirty nine

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<v Speaker 2>year old who's on twenty straight years of twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>points per game, who's on twenty one straight All Star teams,

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<v Speaker 2>who's on twenty consecutive All nbas, that guy who we

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<v Speaker 2>saw in last season against the team that the eventual

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<v Speaker 2>champs play all forty eight minutes in Game four of

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<v Speaker 2>the Conference finals, that guy to dismiss it and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a compiler. You're not compiling if you're still great.

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<v Speaker 2>If Lebron was just like, I'm in your twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>averaging eleven a night at him up, is that what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the best player on a team that made the

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<v Speaker 2>conference finals a year ago. So I just so, does

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<v Speaker 2>forty thousand points matter? I don't know. It used to

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<v Speaker 2>when nobody thought it was gonna happen. Kareem's record mattered

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<v Speaker 2>so much more when people thought Michael or Kobe might

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<v Speaker 2>get it, and then when they didn't, it's like, Eh,

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<v Speaker 2>what does it? You know, what does it really mean?

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<v Speaker 2>At once upon a time it meant some. And as

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<v Speaker 2>far as this idea of will anyone ever catch it?

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<v Speaker 2>All it would take to get to forget catch Lebron,

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<v Speaker 2>because he's still adding to it. If someone demands walked

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<v Speaker 2>into the league today and from the first game of

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<v Speaker 2>their career averaged thirty five points per game, all they

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<v Speaker 2>would have to do to get to forty thousand points

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<v Speaker 2>is play seventy games a year every year, never get hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>average thirty five a night, and play for sixteen seasons

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll get there. So good luck. So how did

0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Lebron get to forty thousand? Be the youngest great player ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Be the oldest great player ever, never get hurt? Be

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<v Speaker 2>the most consistent offensive force over twenty years the league's

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen. And while you're doing it, go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>become you know, third or fourth all time and assists.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, man, he wasn't six for six,

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.840
<v Speaker 2>which by the way, neither was Michael. But of course

0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.960
<v Speaker 2>he was, if you just don't count those other nine years.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Ford, our great producer, was worried before the show

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<v Speaker 2>because I was a little draw withdrawn quiet, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he knew if I was gonna have They

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<v Speaker 2>thought it. Maybe I was a little jet lagged coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of Japan. Didn't know if I was gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>the juice. I was just trying to psych myself up

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<v Speaker 2>for what I knew was gonna be, like a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>minute rant and trying to nail it. And I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>with it. I'm happy with it. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>we're so. This is one of the weaknesses of this

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<v Speaker 2>show's growth on social media is my best stuff goes

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<v Speaker 2>too long. I'm not great in ninety seconds. I need

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<v Speaker 2>a good fourteen to eighteen minutes to really get I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like more of a stew than like a ramen noodle.

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I need a real slow roast to get going. But

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<v Speaker 2>once it does, it can it can cook.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, pal, Sorry, So basically, Kaream's the goat.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, if you want to I'm I'm okay

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<v Speaker 2>with the argument. I'm okay with the argument. And Kareem,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, if the question is best basketball life. Kareem,

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<v Speaker 2>who won the state title every year, lost once in

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<v Speaker 2>high school, went to UCLA his freshman year UCLA back then,

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 2>freshman couldn't play. The varsity team won the national championship,

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<v Speaker 2>but his freshman team beat them in practice, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he took over, you know, his sophomore year. Three years,

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<v Speaker 2>three national championships, two total losses, three tournament MVPs, three

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<v Speaker 2>Player of the Years, and then walks into the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>in year two, scores thirty five a night, wins league

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<v Speaker 2>MVP and finals MVP, and then year twenty is still

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<v Speaker 2>getting buckets in the NBA finals. You want to argue

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<v Speaker 2>that guy's the goat, I'm fine with it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, man, he has a few finals losses, so

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<v Speaker 2>those might be disqualifying. Give me a break, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>what's next?

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<v Speaker 3>Two total losses in college? That's insane.

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 2>The guy, the guy in high school in college won

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<v Speaker 2>the won the state or national championship seven times and

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 2>lost three games. Play no, I mean it was bananas.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, all right? So UH went on to a

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<v Speaker 3>lighter subject or I guess, however you want to look

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<v Speaker 3>at it.

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<v Speaker 4>The Broncos and Russell Wilson seem to be splitsville this

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<v Speaker 4>coming Monday. The Russell Wilson trade might go down as

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<v Speaker 4>one of the worst trades ever. But do you think

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<v Speaker 4>there's any team out there that can Obviously the trade

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<v Speaker 4>is gonna leave the Broncos with a bunch of dead

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<v Speaker 4>cap space. I think it's eighty three million over the

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<v Speaker 4>course of like four more years or three more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, no, no, they got it. The dead cap they

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 2>got to eat over too. The contract would have gone

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<v Speaker 2>another five but the dead cap it's it's forty it's

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five million over the next two years, so they

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<v Speaker 2>got to eat that over the next two I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's thirty nine and forty six. But go ahead, Okay, do.

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<v Speaker 4>You think there's a team out there that can resurrect

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<v Speaker 4>Russell Wilson's career?

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<v Speaker 2>You see him going, No, not resurrect it. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot here. So just some kind of nerdy cap

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 2>machinations of this here. So demanse Russell's contract has these

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 2>things called offsets. So this is no, this is actually

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be it's it's useful information that is probably it's

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 2>gonna be new to you, but it's also new to

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the audience. This more so happened in

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 2>coaching contracts, is sometimes happens some player contracts, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>pardon me. It allows Russ to do something intriguing here,

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 2>which is this next season, the Broncos oh Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine million dollars in cash. Okay, yeah, they owe him.

0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 2>They technically, though, owe him thirty nine million dollars minus

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<v Speaker 2>whatever he gets paid by a team this year. So

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<v Speaker 2>if he if he retires, they owe him the full

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 2>thirty nine million. If he signs with a team for

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:18.679
<v Speaker 2>ten million bucks, they owe him twenty nine million. So

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<v Speaker 2>the point is this, Russell Wilson can't make more than

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine million dollars, and he's next year, this next season,

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 2>and he's guaranteed to make exactly thirty nine million dollars.

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 2>So it is in his best interest if he wants

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<v Speaker 2>to stick it to the Broncos and help his next

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 2>team the most, to take the league minimum, which makes

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 2>him an intrigument. He gets the same amount of money

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 2>no matter what. There's no double dipping. So he should play.

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<v Speaker 2>You follow what I'm saying. He should play for the

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<v Speaker 2>league wherever he wants to play. It should be for

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<v Speaker 2>the league minimum for a year, which is gonna give

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:04.679
<v Speaker 2>him a chance to land somewhat on his feet. So

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 2>the Giants are possibility because I don't know if you saw,

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 2>but they said Daniel Jones or I shouldn't say they

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>said report. It was reported that they evidently, you know,

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, were able to watch Daniel Jones play.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy they couldn't do it before they gave him

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<v Speaker 2>the four for one sixty. It's unbelievable that, you know

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, They just they couldn't quite get around

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 2>to watching Daniel Jones play. But now that they have,

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh God, damn, who gave him that contract?

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.360
<v Speaker 2>And then the guy's like you did, sir. He's like, well,

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to. I don't So we gotta find

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 2>out whose fault this is. I mean. So, so he's

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 2>a possibility. The Vikings maybe because it sounds like Kirk

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>might end up in Atlanta and there's so much dumb

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:57.880
<v Speaker 2>stuff going on the Atlanta Falcons. A year ago, Hey,

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 2>did you guys think about offering them contract? Hell? No,

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 2>why would we do that? You crazy? That type of

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 2>money for that risky of a player, not doing it.

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 2>The Atlanta Falcons right now, thirty six year old Kirk

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Cousins coming off pop to Achilles, man, we can't wait

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 2>to break the bank for him. Some of these teams

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>are just so bad at the business. It's just so ridiculous.

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>But set that aside. So the Steelers I would think

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>would be the right fit for us. But the Steelers again,

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>and I like Tomlin. All the reporting out of Pittsburgh

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 2>is the Steelers saw Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph play

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>last year and they're like, nope, we are good to go, boys.

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what's gonna happen. But a lot

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 2>of these teams are just dumb. There is one intriguing

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 2>team that nobody seems to be mentioning. But I would

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 2>If I were running the New England Patriots and I

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<v Speaker 2>have the third pick of the draft, and I have

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 2>now heard the Giants are desperate to move on from

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Jones and they have the sixth pick of the draft,

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>would I, because at the third pick, you're gonna get

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 2>the third available quarterback. If I were in New England,

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>would I consider seeing hey Giants to move from six

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>to three? Will you give us next year's number one,

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 2>and then we can, you know, move back draft either

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Malik Neighbors or Joe Alt the left tackle or the

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver at another draft pick, and then sign Russ

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 2>for the league minimum. I would consider that. So there

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 2>are a few possibilities where Russ could end up, but

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>he is not guaranteed to be a starter next year,

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 2>and this has cost him any shot he had at

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame. This has been a mortifying turn

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 2>of events for him and for the din for Broncos,

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 2>it was as disastrous de monse a trade and contract

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 2>situation as we've ever seen. What do you? What are you?

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.239
<v Speaker 2>What are you laughing about? Hold on, I've got I

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 2>have to know you. Like you seem like you're freaking

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 2>out about something. You just grabbed your hair, Like.

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 3>What's going on in the bad spot? It's not a good.

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh you didn't like how your hairline looks? Oh, you

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 2>cover your head. This is another reason subscribe on YouTube.

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Demante thinks the camera angle is He also is kind

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 2>of mad at his last haircut. He thinks the barber

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>messed up his hairline, so he's self conscious about it.

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 2>And then he thought there was a weird angle. The

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>camera came on us so dense grabbed his hand. I

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, what's going on here? I thought it was

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 2>a reaction to my Russell Wilson take. But for the

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Denver Broncos to give up two was it three first

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 2>round picks or two first round picks? I think three

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>first round picks, a second round pick, three players in

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 2>a trade for Russell Wilson. And then, and this is

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 2>the part that really hurts. The trade is awful, But

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>as the Niners showed, you giving up three first round

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 2>picks for Trey Lance, you can overcome the trade piece

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>of it. You can't do what the Broncos and the

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Browns did the trade. Pluss the contract, that's the one

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>you can't overcome. And the Broncos what's so baffling is

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Russ had two years left on his deal. When you

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>have a quarterback you love, if they have one year left,

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>you basically have to extend them. But Russ had two

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 2>years left and hadn't played for him. They're like, nope,

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 2>no problem, will give him the deal, and now they

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 2>are finding themselves cutting him before the deal kicks in.

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>It was a five year extension that starts next year

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>he's been cut. They paid him one hundred and twenty

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 2>four million dollars for these two terrible years, which now

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>means if you are looking at the biggest dead cap

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 2>hits in NFL history year by year for a player,

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>they are Russell Wilson in twenty twenty five for the

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Broncos is the number one biggest dead cap bit ever,

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Russell Wilson in twenty twenty four for the Broncos is

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 2>the number three biggest dead cap bit ever, and Russell

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Wilson in twenty twenty two for the Seahawks is the

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 2>fifth biggest dead cap hit ever. The only ones in

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 2>between them are Tom Brady, who retired, and Matt Ryan,

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 2>who they were borrowing money, borrowing money, borring money, trying

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>to win, and then he got old and it was over.

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>That's it. The the the we're splitting up these two.

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 2>But there's never been a player who had a cap

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>dead cap hit bigger than forty million dollars until Russell

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Wilson's eighty five million. So it's just an all time

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 2>disaster for everyone involved, and you can't recover from it.

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:39.479
<v Speaker 2>It is franchise crippling for a half decade it's it

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 2>is the last two years and the next three and

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>then maybe you can tear yourself out of it. But

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>the problem then is, even then, when you're finally clear

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 2>of the cap and the the the not having a

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 2>quarterback in all of it, you know, three years from now,

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 2>demand who the best players on the Broncos would be

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>in a real world, their first round picks from the

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 2>last three years as they hit their prime. But those

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 2>guys don't exist because they traded him for Russell Wilson.

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 2>It's a disaster all because they were so frustrated they

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 2>hadn't beat the Chiefs in years. Man, it's so great

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:27.399
<v Speaker 2>that the Broncos and the Raiders just absolutely lighting their

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 2>franchises on fire and making these rash win now moves

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 2>because they're so frustrated they can't beat the Chiefs. Oh,

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 2>it's so delightful.

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 3>God, Russell Wilson played to have a problem with it

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 3>free money, man.

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, well here's the thing. But MANI makes this point,

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 2>and he's right. Russell Wilson was rich before this. So

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:52.720
<v Speaker 2>the money.

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 4>Are you talking about before we got to the Broncos? Obviously, Yeah,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 4>go ahead, yes, yeah, I'm.

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Saying before he got to the Broncos, not like in

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 2>the like he came from oil money. I'm saying he

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>was when he got to the Broncos. He was already

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 2>rich of course, so that had become normalized. So the

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 2>money doesn't help it that much. Man. I know that

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>sounds nobody wants to hear it. But what I and

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I get it the money there is a level of

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 2>pain that people that are actually struggling financially that they

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>to deal with on day to day life, the survival

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 2>things like that. I totally get that. I'm not comparing

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the two. But what I am saying is it is

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 2>an if he was. It's someone who was right and

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>he and he cares about it. He wants to be

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>great right and he cares about his legacy. So it's

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 2>not as if it was like, Hey, here's the deal, fella,

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 2>who's playing, you know in the Arena Football League. I'm

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 2>going to give you you make thirty grand a year.

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you one hundred million dollars. And

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna give me is you're gonna be humiliated

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 2>for the next two years and people are gonna say

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 2>you suck in. Your career is over. The guy's like, well,

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I oh, I o eighteen grand on

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:19.879
<v Speaker 2>my accord. I've got twenty two hundred credit card debt.

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'm being able to pay. You

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 2>know what, I will take the deal. That's not the

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>situation it was. It was somebody who had one hundred

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 2>million already. Like if someone had said to Russell Wilson,

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I will give you one hundred million dollars and what

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I want from you is public humiliation and the end

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 2>of your NFL career, will you sell me that for

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 2>one hundred million, he would have said absolutely not. I

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 2>don't think he'd have done it for a billion, honest

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 2>to god, No, honestly, you know what I mean. Like,

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that, and again you just have to

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.800
<v Speaker 2>change the number. But like, I'm not in a position

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 2>where I sound like it. I'm not in a position

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 2>where I worry a lot about day to day finances, right,

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 2>I worry about long term finances, you know what I mean?

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Do I have I set myself up to, you know,

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 2>put make sure all my my families taking care of

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 2>all these things. But I'm not like I'm good day

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>to day. So I don't know if they're if someone

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, Nick, what's the number for this? You're

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:34.720
<v Speaker 2>going to be the butt of everyone in the sports

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 2>media businesses jokes for a couple of years, and then

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 2>you might never work again. Like would I do that?

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Would I would I sign that deal for fifty dollars? No,

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I don't think there's a number. They're like, no,

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 2>like the money's not worth it to me, you know

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 2>what I mean for something like that now. And again

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm coming from a place of if I you know,

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 2>if I had like he was in a position maybe,

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 2>but you understand what I mean. So people are always like, oh,

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 2>but he has the money, he was already rich man.

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 2>This is awful for us, and.

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 3>That's why he hates it.

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 2>He hates it and and that, and he's a he's

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 2>not really a sympathetic figure because of kind of how

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 2>he's carried himself in some of these things.

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 4>But you say, like the way that Russell Wilson's carried himself,

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 4>he's just corny, Like, I don't I've never seen like,

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 4>I've never seen Russell Wilson as like a bad guy

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 4>or like.

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't see a lot of him as bad

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 3>guys think.

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 2>He's a bad guy. I think he's pretty clearly a

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 2>good guy, right, But I also think he is. I

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's just that he's corny. I do think

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 2>there was a level of I want the attention and

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I want the credit that irritated I think corny is corny.

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know. Like, but the while injured before

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 2>the Monday night football game, I'm gonna do the ghost

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>huddle for the cameras, and I'm gonna do high knees

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 2>on the plane in between games and then tell the

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 2>media about it. Those things are those things.

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 3>They fall into the category of corny.

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but I bet yeah, Like I think the

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I don't think his teammates in Seattle

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.320
<v Speaker 2>disliked him because he was corny. I think they disliked

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 2>him because I think they thought he was phony. I

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 2>think corny and phony are two different things, you know

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. And so there was a point where

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 2>he became an easy target. But now it's like, geez,

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 2>that was a quick that was one of the quicker

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 2>falls for an athlete without an off the field scandal

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 2>or a major injury. Right, it was a like you

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>went from awesome to okay, just still pretty good to

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, they're giving you eighty five million to

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 2>go away? All right, what's next?

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:20.839
<v Speaker 2>They were all right?

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 4>So my Celtics. They smoked the Warriors by fifty two

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 4>points this weekend. Man, yeah, so the first team to

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 4>win three games by fifty plus points in one season. Ever,

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 4>they're obviously running away with the East and now they're

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:37.240
<v Speaker 4>minus one zero five to win the conference. So should

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I get excited for them to win the finals? Do

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:40.320
<v Speaker 4>you think this is or do you think this is

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 4>a setup? I think that I think there's something that

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 4>you said about I think I wasn't really gonna talk

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 4>about the Celtics.

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 3>I was actually gonna talk about the Bucks. But I

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 3>think there's something to.

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 4>Say with how, like how Drew Holliday is now on

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 4>the Celtics. Their defense probably the best, and like the

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 4>Bucks obviously have their struggles.

0:40:58.160 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 3>And I saw Jiannis come out and say.

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 4>That that he's really happy with the move that they

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 4>made with trading Drew Holliday for Damian Lillard. He's expressed

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:08.720
<v Speaker 4>that he was sad about, you know, making the trade,

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 4>and he shedded tears with Drew Holliday and he's won

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 4>a championship with him, but you know that Damian Lillard

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 4>can come in there and get them. But it's like,

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 4>so I feel like it's directly correlated with like the

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 4>defense and like the Milwaukee They don't they don't necessarily

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 4>have struggles, but I think that Milwaukee is kind of

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 4>like imploding, Like they fired their coach.

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 3>It's just all after what.

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's well, yeah, it certainly hasn't been as smooth

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 2>as they thought. And then Yanna's last night, all of

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, he doesn't play in the game because his

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 2>achilles acts up. So that's terrifying for them. I actually

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 2>still believe in Milwaukee. Uh, but what the I the

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>when Milwaukee trades Drew for Dame. I don't think they

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 2>do it anticipating that Drew will then end up on Boston.

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Like that was a piece of this that prop Milwaukee

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 2>did not anticipate been thinking of. Let's all say about Boston,

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 2>because Boston right now is the massive favorite to win

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the Tire. They're like plus two ten and the Denver

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 2>is second best at plus four fifty. Boston is the

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>massive favorite. Boston has the best five man starting lineup

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 2>in basketball by a mile. Right now, they're in a

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 2>weird spot because against the other best teams, I think

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 2>most of the other best best teams have a best

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:39.280
<v Speaker 2>player better than Tatum. But when you go Tatum Brown, White,

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Drew Chris STAPs, that's starting five is unbelievable, which is

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 2>why their point differential is the fifth best ever they are.

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 2>They have the best record in the NBA by like

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 2>seven games, so they are absolutely legit, which demands is

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 2>why they are are now in a spot where if

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 2>they don't win the title, it is a big time failure.

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 2>It's rare you truly get before you've won a title

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 2>where you're in a spot of title or bust. But

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 2>that is the spot they find themselves in. And if

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 2>they don't make the finals, they'll make a massive change

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 2>this offseason. Yeah, they'll have to shake the snow globe

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 2>because it can't get better in the regular season than

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 2>it is right now.

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, Yeah, I think that. I think that. I

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 4>don't think there's anybody that's going to be able to

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 4>hang with the Celtics when it comes to the finals.

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:43.800
<v Speaker 4>I think if anybody's gonna do, it's gonna be the Nuggets,

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.399
<v Speaker 4>but I don't think I think any other team. I'm

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 4>not gonna say the Celts are gonna watch them, but

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:51.280
<v Speaker 4>I feel very comfortable against any other team that includes

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 4>the Warriors.

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 2>But oh well, yeah, well the Warriors won't be there.

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Warriors had had their number. I understand

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.319
<v Speaker 2>that prior to fifty two point game. But the Warriors

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, The Warriors will be very fortunate to

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 2>make the playoffs this season, much less so they don't

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 2>have to worry about the Warriors team. They have to

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>worry about the team they have to worry about every year.

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 2>The Miami Heat. Oh, I, Milwaukee's an interesting one. But

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 2>the Miami Heat. I understand nobody. Everybody dismisses the Miami

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Heat until the playoffs roll around and then they're like,

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 2>how they do it again? And the answer is they

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.759
<v Speaker 2>have the best coach in the league, Jimmy Butler, is

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 2>one of the best playoff performers in the league, and

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:35.719
<v Speaker 2>they understand how to win. And so the Heat could

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:39.839
<v Speaker 2>be a real problem and Milwaukee. We'll talk more about

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee on a later podcast or maybe later in the show.

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Yannis is having a sneaky and now again he tweaked

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 2>his achilles before the game last night. But Yannis might

0:44:54.960 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 2>be having one of the quietest great seasons ever. So

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Jannis is thirty one a night, point three off his

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 2>career high, eleven rebounds, six point three assists, which is

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 2>his career high. And this is the number where you're like, wait,

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>what on sixty two percent from the field. Sixty two percent.

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Giannis has been a super high efficiency player forever. He's

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 2>never been above fifty seven, and fifty seven is a

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 2>crazy number. He's at sixty two percent. So Milwaukee, but

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 2>the problem is people don't trust Doc and you know,

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Dame hasn't played in the playoffs in a couple of years.

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 2>But I think the Miami is the team that should

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 2>scare Boston. All right, quick break, come back, do our

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 2>second segment, What's Right? All right, welcome back in What's

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Right with Nick? Right, that was a nice, tidy, forty

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 2>minute a block demanse. So we're gonna go fast here

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 2>through the bees. Uh there were I also censored some

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 2>of our producers questions. Here's the thing. I'm just gonna

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you guys. I make decisions for this

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 2>podcast that are I don't want to say they're bad

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 2>for the podcast, but I they here. Here's the thing,

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 2>there are people who are more successful than me in

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 2>this space, and they all seem to have decided that

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 2>talking a lot about deeply, say, intimate details of their

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 2>life is a good strategy. I obviously am not gonna

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 2>do that for a number of reasons, not the least

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 2>of which is I do it with my kids, so

0:46:56.040 --> 0:47:00.080
<v Speaker 2>it would probably not be the place for it. But

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:05.320
<v Speaker 2>the other thing that really moves the needle is talking

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 2>on other media members like oh, this beef here and

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 2>that whatever, and like that clearly does numbers man like

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:21.840
<v Speaker 2>people enjoy it. I don't know why, but people enjoy

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 2>the kind of you know Internet, yeah, that that type

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 2>of stuff of all the places within the sports media space.

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just not going to use this platform for that,

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 2>at least not at this point.

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 3>It seems about anything else.

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 4>If you want to expand our horizons on what we

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 4>talk about, I'm totally down for it.

0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I know you are, and no, I know you are,

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate that. I just I think it's I

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:58.840
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say it's tacky because a lot of

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 2>the people, again, people who are more successful than me.

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Whatever it works for them, it's just not what here's

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:09.760
<v Speaker 2>the It's not what I want to do. And I

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:16.279
<v Speaker 2>actually think it would put my TV colleagues in a

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 2>weird spot. Well you know what I mean, like and

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 2>so I don't. I don't want to do it. So

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 2>uh now that is, of course, with the exception of

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 2>any chance I have to talk about, you know, my

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 2>rival who I will vanquish, Pablo Tory. Of course I will,

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 2>but I mean will he will go down and he

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 2>knows he will. But aside from that, I'm just not

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:42.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna do it like the and you know, but what

0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I will say, Yeah, I'm just not gonna do it.

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 2>It's just not a need. And I there was a

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.720
<v Speaker 2>point in my career when I was doing local radio

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:55.040
<v Speaker 2>when I was really into like man Bleep that guy

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.879
<v Speaker 2>and those guys that I had beef with back then.

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I still have beef with I still to this day.

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 2>If I get a chance to take a shot at them,

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I will. I'm still angry about it, like I still

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 2>carry it with me. Uh, but I just don't want

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to be that guy. And again, maybe this will be

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 2>used against me in the future if I if I

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:25.280
<v Speaker 2>do it, I'm just not it's and I don't think

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 2>it feels to me. And again, I might be totally wrong,

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 2>because this podcast is what I would call moderately successful.

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not like a massive smash hit in the YouTube space.

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 2>It does well. Uh, but I so maybe I'm just wrong.

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Maybe this is but it feels like empty calories, and

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 2>it feels like the type of thing that is not

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 2>long term sustainable, and the only way it is is

0:49:56.560 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 2>to either up the outrageous of your anecdotes or to

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:09.400
<v Speaker 2>just always be fighting with people. And like, I'm just

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:13.240
<v Speaker 2>not I don't know. Maybe I will be at some point,

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 2>but right now, I'm just not into it. And I

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 2>think it's And I also think this is one of

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:20.879
<v Speaker 2>the reasons it's good that I host this with you,

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 2>and when it's not you with the Aura, I also

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 2>think it would be a truly terrible example if I

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 2>was like with you, a split screen with you, if

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:33.839
<v Speaker 2>I was just like roasting someone in the middle, it's

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:36.800
<v Speaker 2>like this guy is a cloud and you're just sitting

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 2>there like, Okay, I don't know what I'm supposed to do.

0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not gonna do it. So instead we're gonna

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 2>play a game we came up with called this or that.

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:48.920
<v Speaker 2>So Demansa explained the game to the audience.

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 4>All right, so it's just a different version of this

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 4>or that. So I'm gonna tell you a story, and

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.400
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna pick. We obviously missed a bunch of stories

0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:57.839
<v Speaker 4>because we're off for a week and a half. Yes,

0:50:57.920 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 4>so I'm gonna give you two different stories and you

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 4>kind of pick which one you want to go in on.

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 4>So the first one we got an NFC story, So

0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 4>Jason Kelsey announcing his retirement or Dak's new haircut.

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Dax's new haircut is again, this is an example

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about. I guarantee if I did ninety

0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 2>seconds right now on Dak's haircut, it would do numbers

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:27.240
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter. It would do numbers. But I'm not gonna

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:30.879
<v Speaker 2>do it. The Jason Kelcey thing, I watched the whole thing.

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Here is what I find so unique about Jason Kelcey. Okay,

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Jason Kelsey for well, there's a number of things. I'll

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 2>try to go through them quickly. One is the relationship

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 2>he and Travis have is really special and I think

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 2>it's beautiful, and I've seen people make this point and

0:51:56.280 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 2>it they're right, And I understand this is a mockable

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:03.720
<v Speaker 2>thing for me to say, but I agree with them. However,

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Jason and Travis were brought up by their parents to

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 2>just do while being alpha athletes who on the football field,

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:21.840
<v Speaker 2>both of them, at various times, are known for losing

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 2>their minds. Travis used to have a big well, I

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't say you used to. I mean Travis's botty bumped

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Andy Reid in the Super Bowl, you know, in a

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:34.759
<v Speaker 2>few weeks ago. Jason. There is a great clip of

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Jason just screaming like a maniac in somebody's face, like

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:42.880
<v Speaker 2>after the play. These guys on the field are annals,

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and off the field are it's sorry to sound corny,

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:54.839
<v Speaker 2>but as open and in touch with their emotions as

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 2>any two men I've ever come across. And I find

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:02.400
<v Speaker 2>it admirable. They are not embarrassed about it, they are

0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:07.279
<v Speaker 2>not shy about it. They will publicly cry and publicly

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:10.840
<v Speaker 2>express how much they love the people who matter to

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:16.160
<v Speaker 2>them without a thought in the world about it. And

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 2>that's a testament to how they were raised in who

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 2>they are as people. And I thought that Jason's speech

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 2>yesterday was really beautiful from a football standpoint. Here is

0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:31.360
<v Speaker 2>what I find so unique about Jason Kelsey. Jason Kelsey

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:36.279
<v Speaker 2>was a sixth round pick demanse who had had some

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:39.880
<v Speaker 2>early career success, but he came into the league in

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven. He made a couple Pro Bowls, but as

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 2>he would tell it in twenty sixteen, was on the

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 2>fringe of you know, being traded or the Eagles getting

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:56.560
<v Speaker 2>rid of him. He was struggling so badly. And so

0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:00.280
<v Speaker 2>he's a sixth round draft pick who threw the first

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:05.719
<v Speaker 2>six years of his career, has middling success despite making

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:09.920
<v Speaker 2>a couple of Pro Bowls, and then over the final

0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:15.400
<v Speaker 2>seven years of his career his first team All Pro

0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 2>six of the seven years and is the best offensive

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 2>player on two Super Bowl teams. So it's not like

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:27.319
<v Speaker 2>he was this first round guy. That was. He was

0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:31.879
<v Speaker 2>a you know, a guy who changed positions at Cincinnati

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:35.719
<v Speaker 2>and college, was a late round pick, and then, at

0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 2>like twenty seven years old, No, that's not right, at

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 2>damn near thirty years old, turned himself into a guy

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:48.040
<v Speaker 2>who will go down as one of the greatest centers ever.

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 2>It's a very unique.

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 4>Career at that point.

0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, at the end. It's even crazier when it's not like, oh,

0:54:57.080 --> 0:54:59.880
<v Speaker 2>this guy was a five star kid out of high school,

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 2>first round pick who just you know, never locked process,

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:09.160
<v Speaker 2>never matured. Yeah, and then it No, it was that

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 2>he was a fringe undersized guy throughout his whole career

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of played like it and then damn near at

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 2>thirty unlocked the whole new level. And it's really a

0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:25.440
<v Speaker 2>really remarkable story. And now he's gonna be a Hall

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:28.239
<v Speaker 2>of Famer one day. Yeah, he's gonna be And he's

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:29.839
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a Hall of Famer one day. So it's great,

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 2>all right.

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 4>Next, maybe he doesn't retire if the NFL bans the

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:37.600
<v Speaker 4>Toush push after this last year. But uh, pick an

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 4>NFC East story. Jason wait, hold on, sorry, college story

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 4>Kaitlin Clark's Kaitlyn Clark's scoring record or court storm or

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.320
<v Speaker 4>court storming takes after a duke player was injured.

0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 3>That was okay, that was weird.

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:56.799
<v Speaker 2>I guess here's the thing. I gotta do both of these.

0:55:57.000 --> 0:55:58.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna not do this or that. I'm gonna do

0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 2>both quickly. Here's there in court storming, we need to

0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 2>be a little more judicious about how often courts are

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 2>stormed that way. It stays a little special, and then

0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:14.920
<v Speaker 2>everyone needs to stop acting like they're wildly dangerous. Shut up,

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 2>just shut up the people. I storm to court in college.

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 2>It's one of my favorite moments of my entire life.

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 2>It is awesome to be able to do it. It's

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 2>part of college sports. And if somebody occasionally is gonna

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 2>twist an ankle, they could have happened on the inbounce play.

0:56:33.960 --> 0:56:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Stop it. Just stop it. And people were like, oh

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 2>my god, there is a student you know, in a

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.440
<v Speaker 2>in a college football game tour their acl man. There

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 2>you got half a dozen students of these games that

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 2>get alcohol poisoning. Like life can be dangerous. That's not banned.

0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Court storming, stop it now. Should should just storm the court?

0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 2>If you're the number nine team in the nation beating

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:59.680
<v Speaker 2>the number eight team, no, Should you storm the court?

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:03.440
<v Speaker 2>If you the Vegas favorite in the game. No. But

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:06.000
<v Speaker 2>if you're a if it's a big time upset or

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 2>if you beat Duke, it's fine, okay. But the bigger

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:13.400
<v Speaker 2>story is Caitlyn Clark Demon SI. Caitlyn Clark's game on

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the ratings just came in. Caitlyn Clark's game on Sunday

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 2>did a bigger number than Warrior Celtics did three and

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 2>a half million. Warrior Celtics had three million. We're as

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Celtics on ABC three and a half million for a

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 2>women's college basketball game. Caitlyn Clark is a superstar, not

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:44.400
<v Speaker 2>a female superstar. She is a superstar. She moves the

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:52.520
<v Speaker 2>needle and the WNBA has been looking for someone who

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 2>moves the needle and you have her, plus Angel coming in.

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Plus people care about Juju, the girl from USC. You

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:08.720
<v Speaker 2>should go Demons to a USC women's game. You're in

0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:16.240
<v Speaker 2>southern California. Juju Watkins is the next great player. Yeah,

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean she's already a great player. She's a freshman.

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 2>So I think women's women's college basketball is having a moment,

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 2>and I ain't Caitlin Clark's gonna extend that moment. I

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 2>think it's really dope. And then like the w n

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<v Speaker 2>b A like.

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<v Speaker 3>Expans I think.

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<v Speaker 2>People, yes, exactly, will people start because I think the

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<v Speaker 2>w n b A they have two great teams. They

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 2>have the Liberty in the Aces and they played in

0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 2>the finals last year. They both have you know, multiple

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 2>m VP caliber players. But it hasn't garnered quite the

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:56.480
<v Speaker 2>buzz yet. But if you you already have a pretty

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 2>high level of basketball and then you add in a

0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:03.680
<v Speaker 2>super starring Caitlin Clark to the league, could be pretty dope.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be pretty dope. All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Next, pick a tall guy to discuss Check going for

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<v Speaker 4>the number one seed or Wimby going for Defensive Player

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<v Speaker 4>of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>Wimby, I mean, listen right now. The guys looking pretty

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<v Speaker 2>great right now. And you know, my skepticism is well

0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 2>known on this show. Right now, it's looking like he's

0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna prove me wrong. But he's been really special and

0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:38.840
<v Speaker 2>the Spurs are understandably being cautious with him. Check. The

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 2>reason I'm not gonna say Check going for the one

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:43.560
<v Speaker 2>seed is because it's SGA going for the one seed. Now,

0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 2>the Lakers did beat him last night, and they have

0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 2>lost five of six ever since SGA said he hasked

0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 2>something for Lebron. So keep that in mind because that

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<v Speaker 2>could be a first round matchup, potentially a one versus

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:55.320
<v Speaker 2>eight or two versus seven, but the story would be Wimby.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Next, all right, pick a quarterback to debate the to

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<v Speaker 4>pick a quarterback debate to weigh in on Justin Field's

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<v Speaker 4>next team, or Jaden Daniels versus Drake May at number two.

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<v Speaker 2>All way in on Justin Field's next team, which is

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand, if the reports are accurate, why Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>would rather spend forty plus million on Cousins rather than

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<v Speaker 2>spending a second round pick on getting to look at

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Fields. Cousins is better than Fields, but Cousins is

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six coming off in Achilles Fields with those weapons

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<v Speaker 2>on turf indoors. If he can unlock the best version

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<v Speaker 2>of himself, you'd have the quarterback taken care of for

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<v Speaker 2>the next ten years. So I'd rather do that than

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<v Speaker 2>a best case scenario, you have the quarterback taking care

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<v Speaker 2>of for the next three years, when you're not a

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<v Speaker 2>team that in those three years is probably gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>able to compete for a championship. So I think Atlanta's

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<v Speaker 2>making a mistake there. But because of that, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where Justin's gonna go because Pittsburgh reportedly is not

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<v Speaker 2>interested in him. There's a lot of teams that I

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<v Speaker 2>think should consider it, but doesn't look like they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to all right next.

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<v Speaker 4>Which franchise tag merits discussion Jerius Snead or T Higgins.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just think it's interesting that they're both getting

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<v Speaker 2>franchise tag. But it seems like the Chiefs are the

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<v Speaker 2>team willing to take the mature long term view, which is, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>if we can't come to a long term agreement with him,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to trade him rather than keep him for

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<v Speaker 2>just one more year and then lose him for nothing

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<v Speaker 2>and the bank. Despite the fact the Chiefs have won

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<v Speaker 2>three of the last five Super Bowls and would if

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<v Speaker 2>there was ever a team that would have a reason

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<v Speaker 2>to be like, screw that. We're going for a three

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<v Speaker 2>p forget the future. We'll win right now. And the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 2>on the other end, have won nothing. Who are about

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<v Speaker 2>to pay Chase? I shouldn't say they want nothing. They

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<v Speaker 2>went to a Super Bowl, they won. The AFC have

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<v Speaker 2>to pay Chase top of the market. Just pay Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>top of the market. They could get a The Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna probably trade sneed for a second. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>could get a first for Higgins, and it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna do it, which is wild to me.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we answer a few listener questions. Next, what's

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<v Speaker 2>right all right, welcome back in What's right with Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Right demons. Let's let's do Ryan Koslov's question to start off,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think it's an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 4>Ryan Koslov asked, with Jason's retirement, are the Kelsey brothers

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<v Speaker 4>the best football brothers ever? Over Manning brothers or others?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so here are the ones that come to mind. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>Peyton and Eli are high on the list. TJ and

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<v Speaker 2>JJ Watt Merritt strong consideration, both defensive player of the

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<v Speaker 2>your caliber, guys, JJ is gonna be a first ballot

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame er. TJ's building a first ballot Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame caliber career. Right, You've got Bruce and Clay

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<v Speaker 2>Matthews from a while ago, but you know, two of

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<v Speaker 2>the best offensive lineman ever and the incredible longevity for

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<v Speaker 2>both of them. And then Sterling and Shannon. Sterling was

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<v Speaker 2>an all time player who had his career cut short

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<v Speaker 2>by a neck injury. Shannon's one of the five best

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<v Speaker 2>tight ends of all time. So those are the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that are on the list. Jason and Travis I have

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<v Speaker 2>a strong argument because Travis is the goat tight end

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<v Speaker 2>and Jason is the best center of the last thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe so I JJ and TJ have a strong case.

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<v Speaker 2>Sterling and Shannon would have if Sterling had just played longer.

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<v Speaker 2>The Matthews brothers are up there. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 2>Eli was that great. I know he won the two

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowls, but I just don't think he was that great.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you Jones brothers pretty good?

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<v Speaker 2>The Jones brothers, who are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Triven like Chandler Jones and.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but the Chandler Jones. Sorry, I just didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about, so Arthur Jones.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the other one is a boxer like UFC fighters.

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<v Speaker 2>M M, a guy John Bones. Yes, I mean so

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<v Speaker 2>that's a different story because that guy is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the maybe the best UFC fighter ever. Chandler was a

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<v Speaker 2>great NFL player and then unfortunately dealing with some things. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>those guys to me are not there, like because the

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<v Speaker 2>Boat the brothers are not as good as the Watts,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know what I mean, They're they they're both

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<v Speaker 2>really good, but they're not as good as the Watts.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's more brothers than you think because the Diggs

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<v Speaker 2>is Stefan and Trayvon, the Saint Brown's Equanimius who isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that good but a man ra who's awesome. There's more.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, he played for the Packers for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget who he's with right now. Eimas st Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>But the the Kelsey's are up there. Man obviously Ronde

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<v Speaker 2>and Tiki, but I think I don't think Tiki was

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<v Speaker 2>that great. Tiki was really good, but not all time,

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<v Speaker 2>and Ronde just got into the hall. I think or

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<v Speaker 2>it was a close call. All right, what's next topic?

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<v Speaker 3>Veyron ass Luca the Josh Allen of the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, there's to me, they're not actually similar at all,

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<v Speaker 2>because Luca was awesome immediately. Josh was had a really

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<v Speaker 2>rough first couple of years, then turned into somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>was great. Luca was, you know, winning MVPs of the

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<v Speaker 2>league at sixteen years old, So you know, they're very different.

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<v Speaker 2>If the question is like guys who haven't quite got

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<v Speaker 2>over the hump, I understand that, like super talents, I

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<v Speaker 2>get that part of it. But those Luca or Jason.

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<v Speaker 4>Josh Allen, maybe Jason Tatum postseason success, getting those moments.

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<v Speaker 3>Game seven with Miami, I don't I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know if there's a right I don't know that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a a Josh Allen in the NBA. I'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>think about that longer. All right, let's ask one more

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<v Speaker 2>from Chris Gerard uh Nick.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you still one convinced about Caleb after all the

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<v Speaker 4>stories they came out lately or do you have doubts

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<v Speaker 4>like most?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. The stories are all nonsense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>What he cried with his mom, he paints his nails,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I watched the guy play football. He's awesome,

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<v Speaker 2>And I forget who may go ahead to Monsey.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's gonna be I think after the first year.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously CJ. Stroud's at the bar kind of high, but

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't have nearly as much hype as Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't think that Caleb Williams is gonna go

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<v Speaker 4>and have a better first year than c J.

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<v Speaker 3>Stroud.

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly think that c J. Stroud probably end up

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<v Speaker 4>having a better career than Caleb Williams. But it's obviously

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<v Speaker 4>Caleb Williams hasn't made it to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, So listen, CJ just had Maybe CJ just had

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the best rookie season ever. What I will say

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<v Speaker 2>that is working in Caleb's favor is he's He's going

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<v Speaker 2>to such an atypical team to have the number one pick.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bears won seven games last year. They have the

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<v Speaker 2>number one pick because the Panthers were terrible. Most number

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<v Speaker 2>one picks are going to terrible teams. The Bears were bad,

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<v Speaker 2>but they weren't. They were seven and ten with bad

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback play. They were five and three over the last

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<v Speaker 2>eight games. The defense got way better once they got

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<v Speaker 2>Montese Sweat. They have their right tackle, they have a

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver, they have a ton of cap space, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna drop Caleb in there. So I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Bears are gonna be good, and I think Caleb's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be excellent. Is Caleb a different type of cat? Guys?

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<v Speaker 2>This is he's the our first college football like, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the first guy. Well, no, not Lebron. I'm not putting

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<v Speaker 2>that on him, but he So we've had a few

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<v Speaker 2>guys who were considered consensus number one picks, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years before they came out. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>first one in the nil era. So the dude made

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<v Speaker 2>ten million dollars last year. He lived in a luxury condo,

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<v Speaker 2>in LA he so does he carry himself differently than

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<v Speaker 2>most college quarterbacks were used to. Yes, because he's already

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<v Speaker 2>super rich and super famous. So that can rub people

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong way, I get it. The flip side to

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<v Speaker 2>that is he's less likely to melt because all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden he's super rich or to like the the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL money and fame and attention is less likely to

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<v Speaker 2>impact him because he already dealt with it. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I just think the guy is a superstar, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think the Bears would be utterly insane to do anything

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<v Speaker 2>other than to send his name in right now, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>great job, Demon's a great show everyone. I gotta get

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