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Speaker 2: Welcome in What Driving the Great Episode two eighteen. We

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Speaker 2: I got to see diora former What's Right co hosts,

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Speaker 2: later in the show. While I was gone, Lebron James

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Speaker 2: scored his forty thousandth point, and I know it makes

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Speaker 2: me lame to care about it, even though Michael Jordan

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Speaker 2: started if you would.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Like you said, Lebron just continues to make history.

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Speaker 4: He just scored his forty eight thousand points as forty

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Speaker 3: I should say, but is one.

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Speaker 4: Of the biggest reasons that you've been the huge Lebron

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Speaker 3: Like it still seems like he's got a lot more

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Speaker 2: To be honest, Well, listen, we know he's the best

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Speaker 2: But I yesterday on TV we said that, you know,

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Speaker 2: I got very frustrated with it because, as you guys know,

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Speaker 2: I think there are three guys who have credible arguments

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do Lebron stuff first, and then the Russ

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Speaker 2: I'm not a Jordan guy. I understand the argument. I

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Speaker 2: or you're not seriously gonna make this part of the

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Speaker 2: And I actually disagree. I think it is a tapestry.

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Speaker 2: I think it is all of the above to a degree.

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Speaker 2: there is no single season Michael Jordan ever had better

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Speaker 2: he was the Finals MVP. He had a damn near

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Speaker 2: So when are we talking Jordan's peak? Are we talking

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Speaker 2: Lebron James in twelve and thirteen, when one he damn

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Speaker 2: Seems pretty good that. Now does that match up to

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Speaker 2: Jordan's two year peak? They're at least equivalent Jordan ninety

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Speaker 2: two to ninety three with a couple of league Well,

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Speaker 2: should have two finals MVPs. They're at least close. Three

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Speaker 2: year peak. That goes to Jordan. Lebron never won three

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Speaker 2: MVPs in a row. Jordan did neither. But Lebron never

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Speaker 2: won three titles in a row. Jordan did. Four year peak.

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Speaker 2: Now it tilts back to Lebron. James, Wait, what do

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Speaker 2: you mean, Nick Well? Four years? What four years are

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Speaker 2: we talking about your Oh? Nick, you mean you're holding

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Speaker 2: against Michael Jordan when he didn't play. Yes, not holding

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Speaker 2: They're like, oh, that is crazy. You're gonna count nineteen

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Speaker 2: that's ludicrous to do that five year, four year peak.

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Speaker 2: Though maybe you could argue jordan five year peak. You

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Speaker 2: to likely go eighty nine to ninety three. You could

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Speaker 2: a better five year peak than Lebron James from twelve

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Speaker 2: The next year thirty six, thirteen to nine in the

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Speaker 2: it doesn't exist. So what are we talking? Peak? So

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Speaker 2: the point I am making there is the peak argument

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, so that's a decade stretch. But set that aside.

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Speaker 2: So peak is an argument. Longevity is not extended excellence

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Speaker 2: and I like Tomlin. All the reporting out of Pittsburgh

428
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: is the Steelers saw Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph play

429
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: last year and they're like, nope, we are good to go, boys.

430
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Speaker 2: So I don't know what's gonna happen. But a lot

431
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: of these teams are just dumb. There is one intriguing

432
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: team that nobody seems to be mentioning. But I would

433
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: If I were running the New England Patriots and I

434
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Speaker 2: have the third pick of the draft, and I have

435
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: now heard the Giants are desperate to move on from

436
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones and they have the sixth pick of the draft,

437
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: would I, because at the third pick, you're gonna get

438
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: the third available quarterback. If I were in New England,

439
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: would I consider seeing hey Giants to move from six

440
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: to three? Will you give us next year's number one,

441
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: and then we can, you know, move back draft either

442
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors or Joe Alt the left tackle or the

443
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver at another draft pick, and then sign Russ

444
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: for the league minimum. I would consider that. So there

445
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: are a few possibilities where Russ could end up, but

446
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: he is not guaranteed to be a starter next year,

447
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: and this has cost him any shot he had at

448
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. This has been a mortifying turn

449
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: of events for him and for the din for Broncos,

450
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: it was as disastrous de monse a trade and contract

451
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: situation as we've ever seen. What do you? What are you?

452
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 2: What are you laughing about? Hold on, I've got I

453
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: have to know you. Like you seem like you're freaking

454
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: out about something. You just grabbed your hair, Like.

455
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Speaker 3: What's going on in the bad spot? It's not a good.

456
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: Oh you didn't like how your hairline looks? Oh, you

457
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: cover your head. This is another reason subscribe on YouTube.

458
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: Demante thinks the camera angle is He also is kind

459
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: of mad at his last haircut. He thinks the barber

460
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: messed up his hairline, so he's self conscious about it.

461
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Speaker 2: And then he thought there was a weird angle. The

462
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: camera came on us so dense grabbed his hand. I

463
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: was like, what's going on here? I thought it was

464
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: a reaction to my Russell Wilson take. But for the

465
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos to give up two was it three first

466
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: round picks or two first round picks? I think three

467
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: first round picks, a second round pick, three players in

468
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: a trade for Russell Wilson. And then, and this is

469
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: the part that really hurts. The trade is awful, But

470
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: as the Niners showed, you giving up three first round

471
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: picks for Trey Lance, you can overcome the trade piece

472
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: of it. You can't do what the Broncos and the

473
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: Browns did the trade. Pluss the contract, that's the one

474
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: you can't overcome. And the Broncos what's so baffling is

475
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: Russ had two years left on his deal. When you

476
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: have a quarterback you love, if they have one year left,

477
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: you basically have to extend them. But Russ had two

478
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: years left and hadn't played for him. They're like, nope,

479
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: no problem, will give him the deal, and now they

480
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: are finding themselves cutting him before the deal kicks in.

481
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: It was a five year extension that starts next year

482
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: he's been cut. They paid him one hundred and twenty

483
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: four million dollars for these two terrible years, which now

484
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: means if you are looking at the biggest dead cap

485
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: hits in NFL history year by year for a player,

486
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: they are Russell Wilson in twenty twenty five for the

487
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: Broncos is the number one biggest dead cap bit ever,

488
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson in twenty twenty four for the Broncos is

489
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: the number three biggest dead cap bit ever, and Russell

490
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Wilson in twenty twenty two for the Seahawks is the

491
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: fifth biggest dead cap hit ever. The only ones in

492
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: between them are Tom Brady, who retired, and Matt Ryan,

493
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: who they were borrowing money, borrowing money, borring money, trying

494
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: to win, and then he got old and it was over.

495
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: That's it. The the the we're splitting up these two.

496
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: But there's never been a player who had a cap

497
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: dead cap hit bigger than forty million dollars until Russell

498
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: Wilson's eighty five million. So it's just an all time

499
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: disaster for everyone involved, and you can't recover from it.

500
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 2: It is franchise crippling for a half decade it's it

501
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: is the last two years and the next three and

502
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: then maybe you can tear yourself out of it. But

503
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: the problem then is, even then, when you're finally clear

504
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: of the cap and the the the not having a

505
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: quarterback in all of it, you know, three years from now,

506
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: demand who the best players on the Broncos would be

507
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: in a real world, their first round picks from the

508
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: last three years as they hit their prime. But those

509
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: guys don't exist because they traded him for Russell Wilson.

510
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: It's a disaster all because they were so frustrated they

511
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: hadn't beat the Chiefs in years. Man, it's so great

512
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 2: that the Broncos and the Raiders just absolutely lighting their

513
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: franchises on fire and making these rash win now moves

514
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: because they're so frustrated they can't beat the Chiefs. Oh,

515
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: it's so delightful.

516
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: God, Russell Wilson played to have a problem with it

517
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: free money, man.

518
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well here's the thing. But MANI makes this point,

519
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: and he's right. Russell Wilson was rich before this. So

520
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 2: the money.

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00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 4: Are you talking about before we got to the Broncos? Obviously, Yeah,

522
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: go ahead, yes, yeah, I'm.

523
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: Saying before he got to the Broncos, not like in

524
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: the like he came from oil money. I'm saying he

525
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: was when he got to the Broncos. He was already

526
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: rich of course, so that had become normalized. So the

527
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: money doesn't help it that much. Man. I know that

528
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: sounds nobody wants to hear it. But what I and

529
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: I get it the money there is a level of

530
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: pain that people that are actually struggling financially that they

531
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: to deal with on day to day life, the survival

532
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: things like that. I totally get that. I'm not comparing

533
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: the two. But what I am saying is it is

534
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: an if he was. It's someone who was right and

535
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: he and he cares about it. He wants to be

536
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: great right and he cares about his legacy. So it's

537
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: not as if it was like, Hey, here's the deal, fella,

538
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: who's playing, you know in the Arena Football League. I'm

539
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: going to give you you make thirty grand a year.

540
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you one hundred million dollars. And

541
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: what you're gonna give me is you're gonna be humiliated

542
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: for the next two years and people are gonna say

543
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: you suck in. Your career is over. The guy's like, well,

544
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I oh, I o eighteen grand on

545
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 2: my accord. I've got twenty two hundred credit card debt.

546
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm being able to pay. You

547
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: know what, I will take the deal. That's not the

548
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: situation it was. It was somebody who had one hundred

549
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: million already. Like if someone had said to Russell Wilson,

550
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: I will give you one hundred million dollars and what

551
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: I want from you is public humiliation and the end

552
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: of your NFL career, will you sell me that for

553
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: one hundred million, he would have said absolutely not. I

554
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: don't think he'd have done it for a billion, honest

555
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: to god, No, honestly, you know what I mean. Like,

556
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: I don't think that, and again you just have to

557
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: change the number. But like, I'm not in a position

558
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: where I sound like it. I'm not in a position

559
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: where I worry a lot about day to day finances, right,

560
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: I worry about long term finances, you know what I mean?

561
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: Do I have I set myself up to, you know,

562
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: put make sure all my my families taking care of

563
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: all these things. But I'm not like I'm good day

564
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: to day. So I don't know if they're if someone

565
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: was like, hey, Nick, what's the number for this? You're

566
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 2: going to be the butt of everyone in the sports

567
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: media businesses jokes for a couple of years, and then

568
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: you might never work again. Like would I do that?

569
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: Would I would I sign that deal for fifty dollars? No,

570
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think there's a number. They're like, no,

571
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: like the money's not worth it to me, you know

572
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: what I mean for something like that now. And again

573
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: I'm I'm coming from a place of if I you know,

574
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: if I had like he was in a position maybe,

575
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: but you understand what I mean. So people are always like, oh,

576
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: but he has the money, he was already rich man.

577
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: This is awful for us, and.

578
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: That's why he hates it.

579
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: He hates it and and that, and he's a he's

580
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: not really a sympathetic figure because of kind of how

581
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: he's carried himself in some of these things.

582
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: But you say, like the way that Russell Wilson's carried himself,

583
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: he's just corny, Like, I don't I've never seen like,

584
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: I've never seen Russell Wilson as like a bad guy

585
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: or like.

586
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: Like I don't see a lot of him as bad

587
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: guys think.

588
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: He's a bad guy. I think he's pretty clearly a

589
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: good guy, right, But I also think he is. I

590
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: don't think it's just that he's corny. I do think

591
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: there was a level of I want the attention and

592
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: I want the credit that irritated I think corny is corny.

593
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: I don't even know. Like, but the while injured before

594
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: the Monday night football game, I'm gonna do the ghost

595
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: huddle for the cameras, and I'm gonna do high knees

596
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: on the plane in between games and then tell the

597
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: media about it. Those things are those things.

598
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 3: They fall into the category of corny.

599
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, but I bet yeah, Like I think the

600
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think his teammates in Seattle

601
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 2: disliked him because he was corny. I think they disliked

602
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: him because I think they thought he was phony. I

603
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: think corny and phony are two different things, you know

604
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: what I mean. And so there was a point where

605
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: he became an easy target. But now it's like, geez,

606
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: that was a quick that was one of the quicker

607
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: falls for an athlete without an off the field scandal

608
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: or a major injury. Right, it was a like you

609
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: went from awesome to okay, just still pretty good to

610
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: oh my god, they're giving you eighty five million to

611
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: go away? All right, what's next?

612
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 3: Oh?

613
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: They were all right?

614
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 4: So my Celtics. They smoked the Warriors by fifty two

615
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: points this weekend. Man, yeah, so the first team to

616
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: win three games by fifty plus points in one season. Ever,

617
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: they're obviously running away with the East and now they're

618
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 4: minus one zero five to win the conference. So should

619
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: I get excited for them to win the finals? Do

620
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 4: you think this is or do you think this is

621
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 4: a setup? I think that I think there's something that

622
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 4: you said about I think I wasn't really gonna talk

623
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 4: about the Celtics.

624
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 3: I was actually gonna talk about the Bucks. But I

625
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 3: think there's something to.

626
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: Say with how, like how Drew Holliday is now on

627
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: the Celtics. Their defense probably the best, and like the

628
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: Bucks obviously have their struggles.

629
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: And I saw Jiannis come out and say.

630
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 4: That that he's really happy with the move that they

631
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 4: made with trading Drew Holliday for Damian Lillard. He's expressed

632
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 4: that he was sad about, you know, making the trade,

633
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 4: and he shedded tears with Drew Holliday and he's won

634
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 4: a championship with him, but you know that Damian Lillard

635
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 4: can come in there and get them. But it's like,

636
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 4: so I feel like it's directly correlated with like the

637
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 4: defense and like the Milwaukee They don't they don't necessarily

638
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: have struggles, but I think that Milwaukee is kind of

639
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 4: like imploding, Like they fired their coach.

640
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: It's just all after what.

641
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: Oh, it's well, yeah, it certainly hasn't been as smooth

642
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: as they thought. And then Yanna's last night, all of

643
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: a sudden, he doesn't play in the game because his

644
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: achilles acts up. So that's terrifying for them. I actually

645
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: still believe in Milwaukee. Uh, but what the I the

646
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: when Milwaukee trades Drew for Dame. I don't think they

647
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: do it anticipating that Drew will then end up on Boston.

648
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: Like that was a piece of this that prop Milwaukee

649
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: did not anticipate been thinking of. Let's all say about Boston,

650
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: because Boston right now is the massive favorite to win

651
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 2: the Tire. They're like plus two ten and the Denver

652
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: is second best at plus four fifty. Boston is the

653
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: massive favorite. Boston has the best five man starting lineup

654
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: in basketball by a mile. Right now, they're in a

655
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: weird spot because against the other best teams, I think

656
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: most of the other best best teams have a best

657
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 2: player better than Tatum. But when you go Tatum Brown, White,

658
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: Drew Chris STAPs, that's starting five is unbelievable, which is

659
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: why their point differential is the fifth best ever they are.

660
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: They have the best record in the NBA by like

661
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: seven games, so they are absolutely legit, which demands is

662
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: why they are are now in a spot where if

663
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: they don't win the title, it is a big time failure.

664
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Speaker 2: It's rare you truly get before you've won a title

665
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: where you're in a spot of title or bust. But

666
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: that is the spot they find themselves in. And if

667
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: they don't make the finals, they'll make a massive change

668
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: this offseason. Yeah, they'll have to shake the snow globe

669
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: because it can't get better in the regular season than

670
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: it is right now.

671
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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Yeah, I think that. I think that. I

672
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 4: don't think there's anybody that's going to be able to

673
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 4: hang with the Celtics when it comes to the finals.

674
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 4: I think if anybody's gonna do, it's gonna be the Nuggets,

675
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 4: but I don't think I think any other team. I'm

676
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 4: not gonna say the Celts are gonna watch them, but

677
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 4: I feel very comfortable against any other team that includes

678
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 4: the Warriors.

679
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: But oh well, yeah, well the Warriors won't be there.

680
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: I mean, the Warriors had had their number. I understand

681
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: that prior to fifty two point game. But the Warriors

682
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: what I mean, The Warriors will be very fortunate to

683
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: make the playoffs this season, much less so they don't

684
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: have to worry about the Warriors team. They have to

685
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: worry about the team they have to worry about every year.

686
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: The Miami Heat. Oh, I, Milwaukee's an interesting one. But

687
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. I understand nobody. Everybody dismisses the Miami

688
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: Heat until the playoffs roll around and then they're like,

689
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: how they do it again? And the answer is they

690
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: have the best coach in the league, Jimmy Butler, is

691
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: one of the best playoff performers in the league, and

692
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: they understand how to win. And so the Heat could

693
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: be a real problem and Milwaukee. We'll talk more about

694
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: Milwaukee on a later podcast or maybe later in the show.

695
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 2: Yannis is having a sneaky and now again he tweaked

696
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: his achilles before the game last night. But Yannis might

697
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: be having one of the quietest great seasons ever. So

698
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: Jannis is thirty one a night, point three off his

699
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: career high, eleven rebounds, six point three assists, which is

700
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: his career high. And this is the number where you're like, wait,

701
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: what on sixty two percent from the field. Sixty two percent.

702
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: Giannis has been a super high efficiency player forever. He's

703
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: never been above fifty seven, and fifty seven is a

704
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: crazy number. He's at sixty two percent. So Milwaukee, but

705
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: the problem is people don't trust Doc and you know,

706
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: Dame hasn't played in the playoffs in a couple of years.

707
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: But I think the Miami is the team that should

708
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: scare Boston. All right, quick break, come back, do our

709
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: second segment, What's Right? All right, welcome back in What's

710
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: Right with Nick? Right, that was a nice, tidy, forty

711
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: minute a block demanse. So we're gonna go fast here

712
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: through the bees. Uh there were I also censored some

713
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: of our producers questions. Here's the thing. I'm just gonna

714
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: be honest with you guys. I make decisions for this

715
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: podcast that are I don't want to say they're bad

716
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: for the podcast, but I they here. Here's the thing,

717
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: there are people who are more successful than me in

718
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: this space, and they all seem to have decided that

719
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: talking a lot about deeply, say, intimate details of their

720
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: life is a good strategy. I obviously am not gonna

721
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: do that for a number of reasons, not the least

722
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: of which is I do it with my kids, so

723
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: it would probably not be the place for it. But

724
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: the other thing that really moves the needle is talking

725
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: on other media members like oh, this beef here and

726
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: that whatever, and like that clearly does numbers man like

727
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: people enjoy it. I don't know why, but people enjoy

728
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: the kind of you know Internet, yeah, that that type

729
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: of stuff of all the places within the sports media space.

730
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: And I'm just not going to use this platform for that,

731
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: at least not at this point.

732
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: It seems about anything else.

733
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 4: If you want to expand our horizons on what we

734
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 4: talk about, I'm totally down for it.

735
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: I know you are, and no, I know you are,

736
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: and I appreciate that. I just I think it's I

737
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: don't want to say it's tacky because a lot of

738
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: the people, again, people who are more successful than me.

739
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: Whatever it works for them, it's just not what here's

740
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 2: the It's not what I want to do. And I

741
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: actually think it would put my TV colleagues in a

742
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: weird spot. Well you know what I mean, like and

743
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: so I don't. I don't want to do it. So

744
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: uh now that is, of course, with the exception of

745
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: any chance I have to talk about, you know, my

746
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: rival who I will vanquish, Pablo Tory. Of course I will,

747
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: but I mean will he will go down and he

748
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: knows he will. But aside from that, I'm just not

749
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: gonna do it like the and you know, but what

750
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: I will say, Yeah, I'm just not gonna do it.

751
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: It's just not a need. And I there was a

752
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 2: point in my career when I was doing local radio

753
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: when I was really into like man Bleep that guy

754
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 2: and those guys that I had beef with back then.

755
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: I still have beef with I still to this day.

756
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: If I get a chance to take a shot at them,

757
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: I will. I'm still angry about it, like I still

758
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: carry it with me. Uh, but I just don't want

759
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: to be that guy. And again, maybe this will be

760
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: used against me in the future if I if I

761
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 2: do it, I'm just not it's and I don't think

762
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: it feels to me. And again, I might be totally wrong,

763
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: because this podcast is what I would call moderately successful.

764
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: It's not like a massive smash hit in the YouTube space.

765
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: It does well. Uh, but I so maybe I'm just wrong.

766
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: Maybe this is but it feels like empty calories, and

767
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: it feels like the type of thing that is not

768
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: long term sustainable, and the only way it is is

769
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: to either up the outrageous of your anecdotes or to

770
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: just always be fighting with people. And like, I'm just

771
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 2: not I don't know. Maybe I will be at some point,

772
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: but right now, I'm just not into it. And I

773
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 2: think it's And I also think this is one of

774
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 2: the reasons it's good that I host this with you,

775
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: and when it's not you with the Aura, I also

776
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: think it would be a truly terrible example if I

777
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: was like with you, a split screen with you, if

778
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: I was just like roasting someone in the middle, it's

779
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 2: like this guy is a cloud and you're just sitting

780
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: there like, Okay, I don't know what I'm supposed to do.

781
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna do it. So instead we're gonna

782
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: play a game we came up with called this or that.

783
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: So Demansa explained the game to the audience.

784
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 4: All right, so it's just a different version of this

785
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 4: or that. So I'm gonna tell you a story, and

786
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: you're gonna pick. We obviously missed a bunch of stories

787
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 4: because we're off for a week and a half. Yes,

788
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna give you two different stories and you

789
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 4: kind of pick which one you want to go in on.

790
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: So the first one we got an NFC story, So

791
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: Jason Kelsey announcing his retirement or Dak's new haircut.

792
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: Okay, Dax's new haircut is again, this is an example

793
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. I guarantee if I did ninety

794
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: seconds right now on Dak's haircut, it would do numbers

795
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 2: on Twitter. It would do numbers. But I'm not gonna

796
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: do it. The Jason Kelcey thing, I watched the whole thing.

797
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 2: Here is what I find so unique about Jason Kelcey. Okay,

798
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: Jason Kelsey for well, there's a number of things. I'll

799
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: try to go through them quickly. One is the relationship

800
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: he and Travis have is really special and I think

801
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: it's beautiful, and I've seen people make this point and

802
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 2: it they're right, And I understand this is a mockable

803
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 2: thing for me to say, but I agree with them. However,

804
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: Jason and Travis were brought up by their parents to

805
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: just do while being alpha athletes who on the football field,

806
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 2: both of them, at various times, are known for losing

807
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: their minds. Travis used to have a big well, I

808
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: shouldn't say you used to. I mean Travis's botty bumped

809
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: Andy Reid in the Super Bowl, you know, in a

810
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Jason. There is a great clip of

811
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: Jason just screaming like a maniac in somebody's face, like

812
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: after the play. These guys on the field are annals,

813
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: and off the field are it's sorry to sound corny,

814
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 2: but as open and in touch with their emotions as

815
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: any two men I've ever come across. And I find

816
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: it admirable. They are not embarrassed about it, they are

817
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: not shy about it. They will publicly cry and publicly

818
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: express how much they love the people who matter to

819
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: them without a thought in the world about it. And

820
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: that's a testament to how they were raised in who

821
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: they are as people. And I thought that Jason's speech

822
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: yesterday was really beautiful from a football standpoint. Here is

823
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: what I find so unique about Jason Kelsey. Jason Kelsey

824
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: was a sixth round pick demanse who had had some

825
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 2: early career success, but he came into the league in

826
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: twenty eleven. He made a couple Pro Bowls, but as

827
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: he would tell it in twenty sixteen, was on the

828
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: fringe of you know, being traded or the Eagles getting

829
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: rid of him. He was struggling so badly. And so

830
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 2: he's a sixth round draft pick who threw the first

831
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: six years of his career, has middling success despite making

832
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: a couple of Pro Bowls, and then over the final

833
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: seven years of his career his first team All Pro

834
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: six of the seven years and is the best offensive

835
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: player on two Super Bowl teams. So it's not like

836
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: he was this first round guy. That was. He was

837
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: a you know, a guy who changed positions at Cincinnati

838
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: and college, was a late round pick, and then, at

839
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: like twenty seven years old, No, that's not right, at

840
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: damn near thirty years old, turned himself into a guy

841
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: who will go down as one of the greatest centers ever.

842
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: It's a very unique.

843
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 4: Career at that point.

844
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: Yes, at the end. It's even crazier when it's not like, oh,

845
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: this guy was a five star kid out of high school,

846
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: first round pick who just you know, never locked process,

847
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: never matured. Yeah, and then it No, it was that

848
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: he was a fringe undersized guy throughout his whole career

849
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: kind of played like it and then damn near at

850
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: thirty unlocked the whole new level. And it's really a

851
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: really remarkable story. And now he's gonna be a Hall

852
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: of Famer one day. Yeah, he's gonna be And he's

853
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 2: gonna be a Hall of Famer one day. So it's great,

854
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: all right.

855
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 4: Next, maybe he doesn't retire if the NFL bans the

856
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 4: Toush push after this last year. But uh, pick an

857
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 4: NFC East story. Jason wait, hold on, sorry, college story

858
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 4: Kaitlin Clark's Kaitlyn Clark's scoring record or court storm or

859
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 4: court storming takes after a duke player was injured.

860
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: That was okay, that was weird.

861
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: I guess here's the thing. I gotta do both of these.

862
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna not do this or that. I'm gonna do

863
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: both quickly. Here's there in court storming, we need to

864
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: be a little more judicious about how often courts are

865
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: stormed that way. It stays a little special, and then

866
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: everyone needs to stop acting like they're wildly dangerous. Shut up,

867
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: just shut up the people. I storm to court in college.

868
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite moments of my entire life.

869
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: It is awesome to be able to do it. It's

870
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: part of college sports. And if somebody occasionally is gonna

871
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: twist an ankle, they could have happened on the inbounce play.

872
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: Stop it. Just stop it. And people were like, oh

873
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 2: my god, there is a student you know, in a

874
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: in a college football game tour their acl man. There

875
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: you got half a dozen students of these games that

876
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: get alcohol poisoning. Like life can be dangerous. That's not banned.

877
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: Court storming, stop it now. Should should just storm the court?

878
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: If you're the number nine team in the nation beating

879
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: the number eight team, no, Should you storm the court?

880
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: If you the Vegas favorite in the game. No. But

881
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: if you're a if it's a big time upset or

882
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: if you beat Duke, it's fine, okay. But the bigger

883
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: story is Caitlyn Clark Demon SI. Caitlyn Clark's game on

884
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: the ratings just came in. Caitlyn Clark's game on Sunday

885
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: did a bigger number than Warrior Celtics did three and

886
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: a half million. Warrior Celtics had three million. We're as

887
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: Celtics on ABC three and a half million for a

888
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: women's college basketball game. Caitlyn Clark is a superstar, not

889
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: a female superstar. She is a superstar. She moves the

890
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: needle and the WNBA has been looking for someone who

891
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: moves the needle and you have her, plus Angel coming in.

892
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: Plus people care about Juju, the girl from USC. You

893
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: should go Demons to a USC women's game. You're in

894
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: southern California. Juju Watkins is the next great player. Yeah,

895
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean she's already a great player. She's a freshman.

896
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: So I think women's women's college basketball is having a moment,

897
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: and I ain't Caitlin Clark's gonna extend that moment. I

898
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: think it's really dope. And then like the w n

899
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: b A like.

900
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: Expans I think.

901
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: People, yes, exactly, will people start because I think the

902
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: w n b A they have two great teams. They

903
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: have the Liberty in the Aces and they played in

904
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: the finals last year. They both have you know, multiple

905
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: m VP caliber players. But it hasn't garnered quite the

906
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: buzz yet. But if you you already have a pretty

907
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: high level of basketball and then you add in a

908
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: super starring Caitlin Clark to the league, could be pretty dope.

909
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: Could be pretty dope. All right.

910
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 4: Next, pick a tall guy to discuss Check going for

911
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 4: the number one seed or Wimby going for Defensive Player

912
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 4: of the Year.

913
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: Wimby, I mean, listen right now. The guys looking pretty

914
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: great right now. And you know, my skepticism is well

915
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: known on this show. Right now, it's looking like he's

916
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: gonna prove me wrong. But he's been really special and

917
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: the Spurs are understandably being cautious with him. Check. The

918
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: reason I'm not gonna say Check going for the one

919
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: seed is because it's SGA going for the one seed. Now,

920
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: the Lakers did beat him last night, and they have

921
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: lost five of six ever since SGA said he hasked

922
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: something for Lebron. So keep that in mind because that

923
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: could be a first round matchup, potentially a one versus

924
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: eight or two versus seven, but the story would be Wimby.

925
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: All right.

926
00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 4: Next, all right, pick a quarterback to debate the to

927
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: pick a quarterback debate to weigh in on Justin Field's

928
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 4: next team, or Jaden Daniels versus Drake May at number two.

929
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: All way in on Justin Field's next team, which is

930
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: I don't understand, if the reports are accurate, why Atlanta

931
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: would rather spend forty plus million on Cousins rather than

932
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: spending a second round pick on getting to look at

933
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: Justin Fields. Cousins is better than Fields, but Cousins is

934
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 2: thirty six coming off in Achilles Fields with those weapons

935
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: on turf indoors. If he can unlock the best version

936
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: of himself, you'd have the quarterback taken care of for

937
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: the next ten years. So I'd rather do that than

938
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 2: a best case scenario, you have the quarterback taking care

939
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: of for the next three years, when you're not a

940
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: team that in those three years is probably gonna be

941
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: able to compete for a championship. So I think Atlanta's

942
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: making a mistake there. But because of that, I don't

943
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: know where Justin's gonna go because Pittsburgh reportedly is not

944
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: interested in him. There's a lot of teams that I

945
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: think should consider it, but doesn't look like they're going

946
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: to all right next.

947
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 4: Which franchise tag merits discussion Jerius Snead or T Higgins.

948
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: Well, I just think it's interesting that they're both getting

949
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: franchise tag. But it seems like the Chiefs are the

950
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: team willing to take the mature long term view, which is, listen,

951
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: if we can't come to a long term agreement with him,

952
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: we need to trade him rather than keep him for

953
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: just one more year and then lose him for nothing

954
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: and the bank. Despite the fact the Chiefs have won

955
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: three of the last five Super Bowls and would if

956
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: there was ever a team that would have a reason

957
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,959
Speaker 2: to be like, screw that. We're going for a three

958
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: p forget the future. We'll win right now. And the Bengals,

959
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: on the other end, have won nothing. Who are about

960
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: to pay Chase? I shouldn't say they want nothing. They

961
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: went to a Super Bowl, they won. The AFC have

962
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: to pay Chase top of the market. Just pay Burrow

963
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: top of the market. They could get a The Chiefs

964
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: are gonna probably trade sneed for a second. The Bengals

965
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 2: could get a first for Higgins, and it looks like

966
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: they're not gonna do it, which is wild to me.

967
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: All Right, we answer a few listener questions. Next, what's

968
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: right all right, welcome back in What's right with Nick

969
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: Right demons. Let's let's do Ryan Koslov's question to start off,

970
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: because I think it's an interesting one.

971
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 4: Ryan Koslov asked, with Jason's retirement, are the Kelsey brothers

972
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 4: the best football brothers ever? Over Manning brothers or others?

973
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so here are the ones that come to mind. Obviously,

974
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: Peyton and Eli are high on the list. TJ and

975
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: JJ Watt Merritt strong consideration, both defensive player of the

976
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: your caliber, guys, JJ is gonna be a first ballot

977
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame er. TJ's building a first ballot Hall

978
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: of Fame caliber career. Right, You've got Bruce and Clay

979
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 2: Matthews from a while ago, but you know, two of

980
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: the best offensive lineman ever and the incredible longevity for

981
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: both of them. And then Sterling and Shannon. Sterling was

982
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: an all time player who had his career cut short

983
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: by a neck injury. Shannon's one of the five best

984
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: tight ends of all time. So those are the ones

985
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: that are on the list. Jason and Travis I have

986
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 2: a strong argument because Travis is the goat tight end

987
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: and Jason is the best center of the last thirty years.

988
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: Maybe so I JJ and TJ have a strong case.

989
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: Sterling and Shannon would have if Sterling had just played longer.

990
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 2: The Matthews brothers are up there. I just don't think

991
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: Eli was that great. I know he won the two

992
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, but I just don't think he was that great.

993
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 3: Are you Jones brothers pretty good?

994
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: The Jones brothers, who are you talking about?

995
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 3: Triven like Chandler Jones and.

996
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: Oh but the Chandler Jones. Sorry, I just didn't know

997
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: what you're talking about, so Arthur Jones.

998
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 3: Oh, the other one is a boxer like UFC fighters.

999
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: M M, a guy John Bones. Yes, I mean so

1000
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: that's a different story because that guy is one of

1001
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: the maybe the best UFC fighter ever. Chandler was a

1002
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 2: great NFL player and then unfortunately dealing with some things. Yes, yeah,

1003
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: those guys to me are not there, like because the

1004
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: Boat the brothers are not as good as the Watts,

1005
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, They're they they're both

1006
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: really good, but they're not as good as the Watts.

1007
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: And there's more brothers than you think because the Diggs

1008
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: is Stefan and Trayvon, the Saint Brown's Equanimius who isn't

1009
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: that good but a man ra who's awesome. There's more.

1010
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, he played for the Packers for a while.

1011
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: I forget who he's with right now. Eimas st Brown,

1012
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: But the the Kelsey's are up there. Man obviously Ronde

1013
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: and Tiki, but I think I don't think Tiki was

1014
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: that great. Tiki was really good, but not all time,

1015
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: and Ronde just got into the hall. I think or

1016
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: it was a close call. All right, what's next topic?

1017
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 3: Veyron ass Luca the Josh Allen of the NBA.

1018
01:05:56,080 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 2: Oh no, there's to me, they're not actually similar at all,

1019
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: because Luca was awesome immediately. Josh was had a really

1020
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: rough first couple of years, then turned into somebody who

1021
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 2: was great. Luca was, you know, winning MVPs of the

1022
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: league at sixteen years old, So you know, they're very different.

1023
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: If the question is like guys who haven't quite got

1024
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: over the hump, I understand that, like super talents, I

1025
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: get that part of it. But those Luca or Jason.

1026
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, maybe Jason Tatum postseason success, getting those moments.

1027
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 3: Game seven with Miami, I don't I don't.

1028
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: Know if there's a right I don't know that there's

1029
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: a a Josh Allen in the NBA. I'd have to

1030
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: think about that longer. All right, let's ask one more

1031
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: from Chris Gerard uh Nick.

1032
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 4: Are you still one convinced about Caleb after all the

1033
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 4: stories they came out lately or do you have doubts

1034
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 4: like most?

1035
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. The stories are all nonsense to me.

1036
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: What he cried with his mom, he paints his nails,

1037
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't care. I watched the guy play football. He's awesome,

1038
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: And I forget who may go ahead to Monsey.

1039
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be I think after the first year.

1040
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 4: Obviously CJ. Stroud's at the bar kind of high, but

1041
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 4: he didn't have nearly as much hype as Caleb Williams.

1042
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 4: And I don't think that Caleb Williams is gonna go

1043
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 4: and have a better first year than c J.

1044
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 3: Stroud.

1045
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 4: I honestly think that c J. Stroud probably end up

1046
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 4: having a better career than Caleb Williams. But it's obviously

1047
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams hasn't made it to the NFL.

1048
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: Well, So listen, CJ just had Maybe CJ just had

1049
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 2: maybe the best rookie season ever. What I will say

1050
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: that is working in Caleb's favor is he's He's going

1051
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: to such an atypical team to have the number one pick.

1052
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: The Bears won seven games last year. They have the

1053
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 2: number one pick because the Panthers were terrible. Most number

1054
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: one picks are going to terrible teams. The Bears were bad,

1055
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 2: but they weren't. They were seven and ten with bad

1056
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: quarterback play. They were five and three over the last

1057
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 2: eight games. The defense got way better once they got

1058
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: Montese Sweat. They have their right tackle, they have a

1059
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: wide receiver, they have a ton of cap space, and

1060
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 2: they're gonna drop Caleb in there. So I think the

1061
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 2: Bears are gonna be good, and I think Caleb's gonna

1062
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 2: be excellent. Is Caleb a different type of cat? Guys?

1063
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: This is he's the our first college football like, he's

1064
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: the first guy. Well, no, not Lebron. I'm not putting

1065
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 2: that on him, but he So we've had a few

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Speaker 2: guys who were considered consensus number one picks, you know,

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Speaker 2: a couple of years before they came out. He's the

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Speaker 2: first one in the nil era. So the dude made

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Speaker 2: ten million dollars last year. He lived in a luxury condo,

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Speaker 2: in LA he so does he carry himself differently than

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Speaker 2: most college quarterbacks were used to. Yes, because he's already

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Speaker 2: super rich and super famous. So that can rub people

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Speaker 2: the wrong way, I get it. The flip side to

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Speaker 2: that is he's less likely to melt because all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden he's super rich or to like the the

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Speaker 2: NFL money and fame and attention is less likely to

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Speaker 2: I just think the guy is a superstar, and I

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Speaker 2: think the Bears would be utterly insane to do anything

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Speaker 2: other than to send his name in right now, all right,

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Speaker 2: great job, Demon's a great show everyone. I gotta get

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Speaker 2: to work. Gonna go on with Coline Oh three o'clock

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Speaker 2: or four o'clock today, NBA Season now on Tuesdays in

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Speaker 2: place of Mahomes Mountain, King of the Hill, our NBA Pyramid,

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Speaker 2: and tomorrow NBA Tiers. The Committee comes back with NBA Tiers,

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Speaker 2: non NFL edition, So that'll be on First things first tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Like rate, subscribe, review to the show on YouTube, on iTunes,

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Speaker 2: do all those things in fact, and if you listen

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Speaker 2: to us on the podcast, I want to test something

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm suppoed to say this or not.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this will get us delisted. I'm not sure. Unsubscribing

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Speaker 2: and resubscribe. I'm just curious what that'll do on iTunes

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Speaker 2: and stuff. Unsubscribe, resubscribe, try that. I just want to know.

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Speaker 2: I just want to see how real these rankings actually are.

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Speaker 2: And if you watch us on YouTube, make sure you're subscribing.

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Speaker 2: All right, see you guys on Thursday. We'll try. Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's Nick right, thank you so much for watching. Please

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Speaker 2: do us a favor click subscribe. It helps my ego

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Speaker 2: and Demonsey's got a financial bonus writing on a number

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Speaker 2: of YouTube subscribers, so help him out. And also click

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Speaker 2: the bell. I don't know what the bell does, but

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Speaker 2: they tell me to tell you to click the bell.

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Speaker 2: And your audio listeners, people that have commutes, drives, whatever

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Speaker 2: it is, subscribe to the podcast as well. Wherever you

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Speaker 2: get the podcast, same show, just you know, just in

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Speaker 2: your ears instead of through your eyes. Of that check

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Speaker 2: it out. Appreciate Jo