1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast runs the cover for Defense. 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas. I'm joined by not quite 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: a room full of heroes. We have Chris Westling, Greg Rosenthal, 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler not in the house today, Fellas. How are 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: you great? Dan? How was your Sunday? Sunday? Was nice? 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: It was? I guess it was the last Sunday off 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: for quite a while. Ironic that Dan skipped most of 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: August but is in the office on Labor Day. We're 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: all here well speaking, which uh, I thought Labor Day 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: was gonna come in here. I I dressed down for 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: holiday reasons. I have a T shirt, actually had flip flops. 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: It was wearing a hat. Get in and everybody's all 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: dressed up, dandy up on Labor Day, which seems wrong. 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: So I had to go back to my car and 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: get dress shoes to at least try to clean up 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: and remove the hat. So I feel a little weird 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: right now. It's week one, baby, and Greg also got 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: a haircut too, which added because Greg was really like 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: a flop top for a while there and now he's 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: all cleaned up. And yeah, when I was saying I 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: had to leave for a haircut last show. I wasn't kidding. 23 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: I really left and it was from Dan's guy. He 24 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: he treated me nice. I'm feeling good. It's week one. 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: They're nowhere. Holidays at the NFL. People. We got three 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: shows debuting on Monday on NFL Network. Get excited. Uh 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: And I feel especially bad for West on this Monday 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: Labor Day. Could be spending some qualities already that time 29 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: by the pool. Instead, you're in Studio sixty six. I 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: got it out of my system on Saturday, my first 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: Saturday off in a month. Wow. We don't need have 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: to get into details on that. Okay, So we got 33 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: a we got a nice show today. We're gonna talk 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: about some notable cuts over the weekend. We're gonna go 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: over our final award choices for Offensive Player of the 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Year and the Defensive Player of the Year, Coach of 37 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: the Year, go over some news with Crystal, a little 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: fantasy talk which people like. That excites the people. And 39 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: that's about it. But so let's start. Why don't we 40 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: start with the weekend. There are a lot of cuts made, Greg, 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: do you wanna start us off with that? Yeah? I 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: think Vince Young was the one that stuck out to me. 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: You know, they get rid of Graham Harrold. At that point, 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: you think Young is probably safe. They get rid of 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: Vince Young, you think their backup probably isn't on the 46 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: roster unless they're going with b J. Coleman. Then on Monday, 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: they get rid of Coleman, they bring in Seneca Wallace, 48 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: who for a minute we thought was retiring. And you know, 49 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: this isn't how you want to enter the season with 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: with your backup quarterback. I think every team is in 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: trouble if you lose a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers. But 52 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: this is pretty much a worst case scenario for Ted 53 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Thompson and the Packers. It's not how you want to 54 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: enter the season. But I would bet they feel more 55 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: confident with Seneca Wallas this year than they did Graham 56 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: Harrold in previous seasons. What do you guys do you 57 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: guys think? I guess why didn't they sign him earlier 58 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: though he was you know, it's not like people were 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: killing themselves to get Seneca Wallas. He wasn't even the 60 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: league last year. My guess is, like, come comes down 61 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: to how many reps can we distribute, and they had 62 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: all their eggs in the Vince Young basket at that point. 63 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: I'm curious. So you guys think we have talked We've 64 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: talked about the Packers a little bit last week. Um, 65 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: if for whatever reason, worst case the Aaron Rodgers went 66 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: down and you had to put it put in, I guess, 67 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: Seneca Wallace, what kind of how many wins would that 68 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: team have with the rest of the pieces they have 69 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: in place? Sick? That sounds about right. You know, Matt 70 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Flynn was a pretty good backup. The thing is this 71 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: isn't a new problem for this team. The backup quarterback 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: situation has been a problem since Flynn left. Really, it 73 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: was a problem all of last year. It just was 74 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: a case where they didn't evaluate right because they thought 75 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: they were good enough with coleman Uh and Harold this 76 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: offseason or else they would have done something differently and 77 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: they and they weren't good enough. So the easy answer 78 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: would be to trade for Matt Quinn. I kind of thought, 79 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: when the Raiders were delayed announcing their cuts on Saturday night, 80 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe there's a surprise Matt Flinn trade. It would make 81 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: some sense. Yeah, it would make sense on some levels. 82 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: But then you figured Ted Thompson never gives up draft 83 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: picks and Matt flinn salary is probably pretty high for 84 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: a trade, and that would also be the saddest full 85 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: circle everyone in the NFL dejected Matt Flynn. Any other 86 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: notable cuts you want to bring up. Jonathan Dwyer in 87 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was surprised just because he looked better in the 88 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: preseason and they're not healthy at running back with Levian 89 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: Bell hurt, so they kept Felix Jones over Dwyer. I 90 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: was surprised about that. Wire was their only healthy running 91 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: back throughout the preseason and looks slim down, looks pretty good. 92 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: Um and our feeling from the Pittsburgh Tribune review was 93 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: that there's some kind of skis them there between the 94 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff in the front office on this release. The 95 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: coaching staff wanted to keep him and the front Apparently 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: he ticked the front office off a little bit by 97 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: showing up out of shape to to UH mini camps 98 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: and then he did lose or thirty pounds between mini 99 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: camp and training camp. But maybe he wrote his ticket 100 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: out of town. You see this every now and then 101 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: with the Steelers. There was some disagreement about Bruce arians 102 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: when when he left between the coaching staff in the 103 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: front office. But Kevin Colvert doesn't get a lot of love. 104 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: Is one of the best at what he does, so 105 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: I trust him. I mean, is this going to make 106 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: that big a difference in this team now? And to 107 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: their credit, If this was the jet it would be 108 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: a full blown controversy, but the Steelers put a lid 109 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: on it and you all you ever hear is whispers, 110 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: not like a full blown drama. Any other cuts. We 111 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: were cranking out the cuts on Saturday, Dan Mark and 112 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: I and Kevin Patrick were while Chris was just relaxing. 113 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: I think the one that most shocked me was Antoine 114 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: Winfield cut and retired, which points to the Seahawks depth, 115 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: which we talked about. I had no idea he was 116 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: considering retirement because he had been playing at a pretty 117 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: high level the past couple of years. I feel, yeah, 118 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: I feel I feel like he I guess he made 119 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: someone of a tactical error and free obviously did in 120 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: free agency, and I guess it came down to he 121 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: didn't feel like going through the process starting over and 122 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: being the slate at thirty six or uh and twelve 123 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: fourteen season seasons in I guess that was enough for him. 124 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: It's one of those that the Pro Football Focus rank 125 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: don't match up with how NFL teams see him, necessarily 126 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: because they have Winfield as I think their best cornerback 127 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: in football. Last year, he didn't really get much of 128 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: a free agent contract. My guest, and he's been one 129 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: of my favorite guys to watch at cornerback for ten years. 130 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Is he just kind of read the you know, right 131 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: hand the wall. He could keep his career going, but 132 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: once he gets cut, he just didn't want to do 133 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: it anymore. And I had one more on the Vanguard watch. 134 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: We were talking so highly of the Seahawks and Niners 135 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: last week, Chris Harper fourth round pick got cut. You know, 136 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: of course, that gets the angle on this is that 137 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: the Seahawks they know when to cut loose, They operate 138 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: their own rules. Well, the Raiders did the same thing. 139 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: They cut Tyler Wilson their fourth round pick. Are they 140 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: also the vanguard? It reminds me a little bit of 141 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: Brian Brohm, who also toiled under Bobby Petrino or not, yeah, Briant, 142 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: So maybe Petrino's quarterbacks just aren't that cut cut out 143 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: for the NFL. Yeah, Tyler Wilson. We'll see what happens 144 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: with him. But man, that's that's rough. And the interesting 145 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: thing with Harper was that the Seahawks wanted to keep him. 146 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: Ian Rap Report reported that the forty Niners and Seahawks 147 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: kind of battled over getting Harper, but eventually he ends 148 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: up going to the Fortys and their active roster. So 149 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: it's just another little dig from Jim Harbat to Pete Carroll. 150 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: You gotta love that. And and Tyler Wilson. I was 151 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: at a rookie event at a Los Angeles elementary school 152 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: in June, and I remember asking him, you know, how 153 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: does it feel to be talked up as a potential 154 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: starter this season? And now look where he is. Yeah. 155 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: Another another few notable cuts were just mentioned quickly. Robert 156 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Meetchum is no longer in the league. One of the 157 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: worst free agent signings. I wouldn't expect the Saint to 158 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: sign him. They they really like what they've seen from 159 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: Kenny steells In and Nicktune and Austin Collie. I thought 160 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: wasn't a surprise, but you know, that was an interesting one, 161 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: and we've made it this long without mentioning, right, I 162 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: mean it was a third quarterback he started in the 163 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: playoffs a couple of years ago. He's a significant NFL 164 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: figure and now I would be surprised to see him 165 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL this year. Again. As a honeymoon gift 166 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: from the NFL News desk last year, I received a 167 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: Jets Tim Tebow jersey, which still has its tags on. 168 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: It's still hanging in my closet. Is it more valuable 169 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: now or less valuable now that he may not ever 170 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: play again? I don't think you want to wear that jersey, 171 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: but I will wear And I'm wondering for eBay reasons. 172 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: It seems like Tebow's value would be a personal thing. 173 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: I think I think it's at an all time low. 174 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: And I'm just amid that Pat White has outlasted both 175 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow and Jimmy Clawson in the NFL. So three 176 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: cheers to Pat White. Alright, So that is that is 177 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: our cuts talk. Um, Glad that that was that's over, 178 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: because that is a that is a tough shift and 179 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: kind of a tough time of year. Um, let's go 180 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: to more awards fund our final two awards posts that 181 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: we did. Where do we want to start. We want 182 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: to start with the Rookie of Year predictions. Sure, all right, Wes, 183 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: why don't you share yours? Because well, maybe I should 184 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: preface this by saying that for offense of Rookie of 185 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: the Year, most of us agreed on one man, and Wes, 186 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: you were one of them. Who was your pick for 187 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: offensive Rookie of the Year? I picked Eddie Lacey, uh 188 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: of the Packers. He is looks like he's locked into 189 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: a feature back role with Dwan Harris out for the season. 190 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: I think we can expect if he stays healthy two 191 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: D two h fifty carries. I think I tabulated the 192 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: Alex Green, James Starks, and Cedric Benson combined for two 193 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: D seventy seven carries last year, and none of the 194 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: three ran well. So if Lacey's running well, we can 195 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: expect a heavy workload. I think that changes the dynamic 196 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: of their offense, finally having a running game there um 197 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: and I you know that everything is in place for 198 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: the Packers this year. I feel like it's perfect situation 199 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: for Lazy. Yeah, four of the five of us chose Lacey. 200 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: I didn't look at everyone else's picks before making mine. 201 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: I might have just tried to come up with a 202 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: different one other than Lacey. Uh, But I'm excited I 203 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: took him on my fantasy team. I mean, what's not 204 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: to be cited about with Lacey? And it's weird when 205 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: you look up and down the list of potential candidates 206 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, there weren't a lot 207 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: of obvious names, were there. There's one guy that everybody 208 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: is sleeping on because the Rams sandbag the heck out 209 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: of the preseason. I really like the way Tavon Austin moves, 210 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: and we saw it on the punt returns. You didn't 211 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: see in their offense because they purposely kept him from 212 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: being showcased. But it would not surprise me in the 213 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: least if Tavon Austin was the guy. That's a good 214 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: point too, because if you remember what what the buzz 215 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: was heading into the draft in April, and the way 216 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: Austin was talked up and and how the Rams moved 217 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: up to make sure they got him. One one's quiet 218 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: uh preseason in terms of the offensive side of the ball, 219 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: and people all of a sudden are not thinking so 220 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: highly of him. But he might be a sleeping I 221 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: will say this. I know Greg loves Chris Gibbons and 222 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: I like him too, but to me, the differences Tavon 223 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: Austin has special ability. Chris Skiveveons just has pretty good ability. 224 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: It's tough for a wide receiver to win that award. 225 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: I thought about DeAndre Hopkins too, and I like that pick. 226 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: But usually it's a running back and Monty Ball doesn't 227 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: seem like he's going to be in place to really 228 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: do it. So Lacey made more sense. I'll tell you 229 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: why I don't like the Hopkins pick. I think he's 230 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: a fine player, But how often do you see a 231 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: team's number two receiver win Rookie of the Year. It's 232 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,479 Speaker 1: a fair point. That is a fair point, alright. So 233 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: so that's Lacy is the consensus there. What about on defense, Greg, 234 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: who did you pick for defense? I went with alec 235 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: Ogletree of the St. Louis Rams. Both the Patra Kevin 236 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: Patra and I both chose ogle Tree. I was surprised 237 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: someone else did too. I just think he's in a 238 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: great position. Like running backs win offensive Rookie of the Year, 239 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: a lot of times linebackers win defense. And there really 240 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: wasn't a middle linebacker choice that made a lot of 241 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: sense except for Wes's boy, Mr Boom Bostick. That's catching on. Yeah, 242 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: I hope that though I just brought it up. I uh, 243 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: we should say who it is by the waycause maybe 244 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: hasn't caught on enough where we know who it is. Yes, 245 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: John Bostick, Wesselyns trying to, you know, start this nickname 246 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: for him because he's a huge shaggy fan. A lot 247 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: of people don't know that about I didn't know that 248 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: about Wesley go to third person. All this hype for 249 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: Wesseleyan is is getting to his head. I like Uncle 250 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: Tree because he's gonna make plays that people notice. And 251 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: he's got a great defensive line in front of him 252 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: to help him go pursue the ball, and he's got 253 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: to intercept passes and break up passes. I could just 254 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: see him making a lot of splash plays that get 255 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: him in highlight reels. I agree with that. He's going 256 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: to make plays, the interceptions, fumble recoveries, knocking away balls. 257 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: The only reason I didn't pick him and I considered 258 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: him he was probably my runner up. I just saw 259 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: him out of position too much in the preseason. He 260 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: was making a lot of errors, over running plays in 261 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: the wrong position too many times. I think there maybe 262 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: a few growing pains, but you're right. I think maybe 263 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: the voters will see all the splash plays on the 264 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: highlights and it won't matter. And it's funny, great you 265 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: said plays people notice. That's why I took the honey 266 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: Badger in Arizona. I think and West did as well. 267 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: And I am authorizing you to speak for the two 268 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: good good. I'm glad that we're alternating on the podcast 269 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: on this topic. Uh yeah, I just think he's from 270 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: everything we're hearing. He's being talked up now is the 271 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: sleeper of the draft, to the guy that should have 272 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: went way higher than he did. He's he's going to 273 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: have a defined role in that secondary and he makes plays. 274 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: He's a guy that is always around the ball, forces fumbles, intercepts, passes, 275 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: and then you can't discount when you're talking about anything 276 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: that's a voting process, the redemption of the Honey Badger angle. 277 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: It won't hurt him either. Yeah, he's one of those guys. 278 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: I think people outsmart themselves when they're scouting. Sometimes. I 279 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: don't watch much college football. When I watched L s 280 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: U play. When Honey Badger was there, you just knew 281 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: he was the best player on the field, and I 282 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: think that translates to the NFL. Is it possible, though, 283 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: we're falling for what you talked about a few weeks ago, 284 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: recentcly biased whistling that you know, he he gets a 285 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: lot of hype in the preseason, he makes some plays 286 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: in the season, suddenly suddenly he's a defensive rookie the year. 287 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: It's like last year, I remember, I think they pulled 288 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: maybe it was fifteen or sixteen of us at NFL 289 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: dot Com for Offensive Rookie of the Year. Andrew luck 290 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: was to pick on fifteen out of sixteen r G 291 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: three only got one vote, and it was all because 292 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: he had a good preseason. I think that's a fair point. 293 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: There could be some recency buyds there, But like I said, 294 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: I thought he was a great player in college. I 295 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: thought he was underdrafted, and I think he's just he's 296 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: just one of those natural ball players who has all 297 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: the talent in the world. Okay, let's move over to 298 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: the Coach of the Year predictions. Now this has to 299 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: tie in directly with for obvious reasons, with our standings picks. 300 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: It has to be a team that either makes the 301 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: playoffs or was wretched and gets close to the playoffs. So, Wes, 302 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: you want to get us going with who you chose 303 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: as your two thousand thirteen NFL Coach of the Year. Sure, 304 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: as Matt money Smith said to open the podcast a 305 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: while back, would follow Mike Tomlin anywhere. We will follow 306 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin anywhere I will. I think he's one of 307 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: the best coaches in the NFL. He's got a make 308 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: up for Mike Wallace leaving. Heath Miller's injured, his his 309 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: star second round running back is injured, his defense is 310 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: getting old. He has all these factors. Nobody is picking 311 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers to win the NFC Central except three out 312 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: of the five around the crew members. So I think 313 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: you know that you're right. No one is predicting they're 314 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: gonna win the NFC Central because that doesn't ex Let 315 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: me start that. I like that. All right, we're gonna 316 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: deep breath for West. Do you want to recraft your 317 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: point on any level? Yeah, I just throw that one 318 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: over to you, all right, Greg, Greg, go ahead. I'm 319 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: going with Chip Kelly. You know I had them as 320 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: a surprise division champion. Um, I'm still trying to kiss 321 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:53,359 Speaker 1: up to Crystal. I'm hoping that's gonna work beautifully. And uh, 322 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: I think he's a coach that people notice, not only 323 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: because he'll get written about a lot, just because he 324 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: does the sort of things that impress us. You know, 325 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: NFL rubes who like to see fund formations and like 326 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: to see surprise, you know, champions in their division. And 327 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles to me are a perfect pick to win 328 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: that division. And and I think every year the ten 329 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: and six team that surprises ends up winning Coach of 330 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: the Year. For some reason, Bill Belichick, those guys never 331 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: win it. It's always guys like Chip Kelly. I'm a 332 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: little surprised that Kelly was the only one of you 333 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: were the only one to pick Kelly, because I'm sure 334 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: if you quizzed writers and experts, so called experts around 335 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: the country, Kelly will be the pick. Um I went 336 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: with because again, you have to follow your standings. I 337 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: took the Browns to go nine and seven get a 338 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: playoff spot, so I'm gonna go with Chud. Rob Chadzinski. 339 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: I think you know a lot of this. A lot 340 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: this is this is out on a limb. Listen, is 341 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: um so much out on out on a limb, but 342 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: that our initial post on this didn't even have Chud 343 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: in there. Greg excluded it. I had to make sure 344 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: I got in there. But I was just trying to 345 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: save you for your sake, I really listen. I backed 346 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: myself into a corner on this one. I'm admitting it, 347 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you can't. This is not 348 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: time to get scared. I think they have a lot 349 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: of pieces there if we didn't progresses nine wins? Is 350 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: that absurd to say that the Browns could win nine 351 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: games this year? I have never heard somebody has all 352 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: in on the Cleveland Browns this year. So what was it? 353 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: People that really mentioned that Dnski's read option with camp 354 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: last year not not really known as a huge coaching success, right, 355 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that what coach was getting criticized more 356 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator than Rob Early last year. To 357 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: be fair, he was getting just as much credit the 358 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: year before. That's true. I just want to give Dance 359 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: some shock the world. Come on, shot, I need you 360 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: right now, um, and just to round it out because 361 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: they're not sitting with us today. Kevin Patrick took Andy 362 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: Reid with the Chiefs, which there's some logic to that, 363 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: and Sessler took the CFL guy Mark Trustman with the 364 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: Bears make sense. Although the Bears went ten and six 365 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: last year, So if they go ten and six again 366 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: but make the playoffs, Trustman as a coach of the Year, Yeah, 367 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see that. I think Mark just 368 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: identifies with Trustman. I would. I would say that's a 369 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: valid statement that Mark looks at all the NFL coaches 370 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: and thinks Mark Trustman is the most like me. I 371 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: like him. I think you hit the nail on the 372 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: head with that one way. That's that's actually kind of offensive, 373 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: because I think Trustman is one of the creepier looking 374 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: guys that looks wise. I think their brains work the 375 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: same way. Oh and they also spell their names of 376 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: the CE Mark with the C right and you could 377 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: say that about a lot of journalists. I think like 378 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: Trustman for that reason too. I think he's he's unorthodox, 379 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: he's willing to think outside the box. And I think 380 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: people he said I identify with his circuitous route to 381 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: the NFL. I like that. Yes, as the mailman, you 382 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: can speak to make the route less traveled mail men 383 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: do know about route all right. So Crystal, Kay, Rich 384 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: are you behind the glass? Hello? Guys, happy laboring on 385 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: Labor Day. You know, poor Crystal had to come in 386 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: she might is there's a theory bouncing around. The only 387 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: reason Crystal came in today is because she had to 388 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: because she had to produce our podcast. That is the 389 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: only reason, you guys know. I get dressed up every day. 390 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: She does day. I'm right with you, Dan, Really, I 391 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: can't tell. There's a little bit of a difference between 392 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: how I'm dressed and how you are, beyond the fact 393 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: that we are men and women. Um, alright, let's let's 394 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: hear a little news from Crystal. Crystal isn't trying to 395 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: grow a really weak beard. And with that, alright, first up, 396 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals signed five years. Yeah, but you get one 397 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: hair cut and now you can come after my beard. 398 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: They could have set you home for that your hair 399 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: for the past. I have this theory going for about 400 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: two decades now. It hasn't been scientifically proven. But when 401 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: on the day you get your hair cut, and probably 402 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: for another three or four days, you're the funniest guy 403 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: in the room. Weipping jokes around left and right? Why 404 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: why do you have that theory? Would feel good? You 405 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: look good? Oh? Yeah, that's fair. Although I feel like, 406 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: at least for me, kind of like the Jan Sanders, 407 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: you know motto for right, feel good, look good, play good, 408 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: and then get paid good. I feel like with a haircut, 409 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: mine usually take a week to kind of find themselves, 410 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: find their footing. Oh I can't identify with that. Yeah yeah, 411 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: but no, Greg, You're you look pretty sharp right now. 412 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: You're like a seven seven and a half minute. I 413 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Alright. Never realized when girls get haircuts. But 414 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: that's fine. Back to the new Did you get a haircut? 415 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: I did not? Did I know you guys wouldn't notice? Alright? Cool? Alright, 416 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt there, Chris, all you. That's all right. 417 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals signed a five year contract extension with Gino Atkins. Uh. 418 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: Let's see, should have been? Was he a finalist for 419 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year last year? Well they don't 420 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: do they have finals? I guess now with the NFL 421 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: Honors Awards, they kind of mentioned guys that were finalists. Basically, 422 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 1: it was a it was a wash for I mean, 423 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: it was gonna be J J W. I think Von 424 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: Miller got one vote as well. Yeah, what von Miller 425 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: and Gino Atkins I thought were easily the three best 426 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: defenders in the NFL last year. Atkins just looked dominant, 427 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: especially down the stretch. The Bengals had possibly the NFL's 428 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: best defense from mid season on and and Atkins is 429 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: definitely the engine that drives that machine. They have one 430 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: of the best, most dominant defensive lines. Atkins just gets 431 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: unbelievable power and balance out of that body, and he's 432 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: always in the backfield. It was a no brainer signing 433 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: and he signed less for less than Hellodi Nada, so 434 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: it was a great deal for the Bengals. So what 435 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: you're saying is that Mike Brown in the front office 436 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: of the Bengals do things the right ways. Ahead I 437 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: backed myself into a corn They did this thing the 438 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: right way. I mean, they've been drafting well, they're resigning 439 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: their key guys like Dunlap and Atkins, and I would 440 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: acknowledge over the public airwaves ever since Carson Palmer decided 441 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: that the Bengals were such a rotten organization that he 442 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't even play for fifteen million dollars Mike Brown has 443 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: made some great moves. He's been a wonderful GM and 444 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: owner for the last three or four years. We won't 445 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: talk about the last fifteen years before that. I'm standing 446 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: up right now, although I will say. I will say 447 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: that he did chicken out and take Andy Dalton over 448 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. It could have been in a different world 449 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: if he did. I take back everything I said. A 450 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: lot of should have done that. He was rolling. Uh, 451 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: you're my don King. Yeah, I know, I shouldn't have 452 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: done that. I just like Atkins how he how he 453 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: walks whenever they have the hard knocks slow motion, he 454 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: kind of walks like a duck. Does not look like 455 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: the type of guy to be one of the most 456 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: dominant interior linement in football. Does not swim like a 457 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: guy that that you would think the international athlete? What else? 458 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: K Rich Alright, guys, next up, we're talking about the 459 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: quarterback carousel in New York. The Jets sign Brady Quinn 460 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: and dump Graham Harrold. No good now everything saw him though. Yeah, 461 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: this is when I think I think that says it all. Yeah, 462 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: I did. That's been as a nice headline. Today. Jets 463 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: signed handsome Comma bad QB to temporarily reply, is handsome, 464 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: Comma bad QB. Think that about sums it up? Is 465 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: that all we got? No? Pretty good? What else you got? Alright? 466 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: Last up, Washington Redskins hen coach Mike Shanahan says r 467 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: G three will start and they're opener against the Philadelphia Eagles. 468 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: I really have not this one. Yeah, we're gonna throw. 469 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: We don't have to do RG three injury updates anymore. 470 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: It's like groundhog Day when you hear uh, I got 471 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: you babe by Shunny Sunny and share, and we keep 472 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: on hearing the same story over and over again. But 473 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: this might be the last one. Right, this is the 474 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: last Shannahan press conference. We're putting it to bed. It's 475 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: on the kibosh list. Well I mentioned earlier today. I 476 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: think this is the first story that NFL dot Com 477 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: an NFL network has ever gone breaking news with twice 478 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: with the exact same story. Didn't we do it? Didn't 479 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: we break this on Thursday or Friday? Too? We did? Actually? Yes, 480 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: It's sad that the Brady Quinn news I think was 481 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: more impactful than this one. Anything else? Do you have 482 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: anything else? Crystal? That's it for a day. No, well, 483 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: we're nice and quiet, a little quiet on the news front, 484 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: a little bit quiet out the news front that it 485 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: gives us more time to talk a little fantasy football. 486 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, nice transition. We got well fantasy. As I've 487 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: said before, I am in a room with two fantasy experts. 488 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: They don't like to call themselves experts, but they are. 489 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: They were a stalwarts at rode A World. Greg was 490 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: the boss, West was the Consigliari. Uh So, now let's 491 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: talk a little fantasy football. Greg, do you want to 492 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: start out with maybe one tip, now that the season 493 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: is officially four days away, one tip for fantasy players, well, 494 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: for people that are still drafting. I think there's such 495 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: a tendency to overrate what your team's gonna look like 496 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: in Week one and not think about long term. And 497 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: I was just in my draft last week, and no 498 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: one wanted to touch Gronkowski. I know you ended up 499 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: with him, Dan. No one wanted to touch Josh Gordon, 500 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: who's only going to be out two weeks. No one 501 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: wanted touch Santonio Homes. You know, probably for a few 502 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: different reasons there, but I took him in the fifteenth 503 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: round or something. And you know, he's a very talented 504 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: guy to be available that late. Lean Bell is another one. 505 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: And so if you're still drafting, or even if you 506 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: can pick up guys off waivers, I always think about 507 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: what's the best team in November and December, and just 508 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: worry about that and assume you're going to get to 509 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Don't worry. You can fill in the rest 510 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: of the way. Worry about the guys at the end 511 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: of the season because guys like Gordon and Homes they're 512 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: going too late in draft. What do you think about that? 513 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: I agree totally. That's great advice. Um, I haven't noticed 514 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: people get too caught up in the first month of 515 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: the season and start panicking on trades. And then you 516 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: see guys that we may have hyped, you know, before 517 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: the seasons started, and they're saying, guys catch fire in 518 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: the second having carry teams to the title. Do not 519 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: over emphasize September and October. Yeah, and mine is more 520 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I tied into Greg's point, which was, you know, people 521 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: get it all caught up with the news reports they 522 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: see and Gronk is the perfect example of this. Over 523 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: the summer when people are preparing for drafts its sund 524 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: like we would never see this guy again. But the 525 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: truth of the matter is that he's going to be 526 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: back by the end of September most likely. And this 527 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: is the greatest tight end on earth, you know. And 528 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: I think anybody that was able to get him in 529 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: the sixth round or seventh round or fifth round, as 530 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: I believe Mark and I did, and I believe Greg 531 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: you got him in that as well, you're gonna reap 532 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: the benefits of it. So all you really need is 533 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: that guy to carry carry you for three weeks. I 534 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: think Fred Davis is our carryover guy to get to Gronk. 535 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: The only thing I will say, and now we're not 536 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: even talking about tips, but the only thing I'm nervous 537 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: about with Gronk is how do we know that guy 538 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: is gonna stay healthy? You know? In that in that 539 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: playoff game, he came back, he hit the hit the turf, 540 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: and he broke that arm again. So make sure you 541 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: handcuff a guy like Ronk or any of these guys. 542 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: That one thing fantasy anders should know is there's risk 543 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: involved with every single player. Yeah, I remember I got 544 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: a tweet a couple of weeks ago when the Jerom 545 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: Felton suspension came out. How does this affect Adrian Peterson's value? 546 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: And I thought, well, you should probably trade him away 547 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: for another less talented running back that has another concern. 548 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: Every every player's got concerned, So don't worry about it 549 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: too much. Just go with the guy with the highest upside. 550 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: Gronkowski is practicing. I mean, there's another news item to 551 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: me that is is pretty significant. On Sunday, he's in 552 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: his full pads. On Monday, he's in full pads again. 553 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: He's on he's doing eleven on eleven. Belichick will only 554 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: say he's day to day, but everything is trendy and 555 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: right now towards I don't think he'll be back week one, 556 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: but it's possible week two or week three at this point. 557 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna put both you guys on the spot 558 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: a little bit because you are experts. Um, if let's 559 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: let's talk right now. Everyone has their teams for the 560 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: most part, or they better. Uh my my wife's got 561 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: are all ladies draft on Tuesday night. It's a great 562 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: time for gorgeous ladies of fantasy right behind. I love it. Yeah, 563 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: this is the best week for drafting. Yeah, well, this 564 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: is the perfect time because you know everything that's in 565 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: front of you. But my question you guys is who 566 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: would be one guy that might be on the waiver 567 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: wire that you should go and grab. Waiver wire? Yeah, 568 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: a free agent pile. I saw Isaiah Pede was on 569 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: my waiver wire, and if no one listens to this before, 570 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go pick him up just because 571 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: I like him as a deep guy. But right now 572 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: the waiver wire, guys aren't gonna be too exciting. I've 573 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: got a guy for your watch list. I wouldn't pick 574 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: this guy up in redraft leagues. Um, if you're in 575 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: a dynasty league or even in the re draft league, 576 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: just keep this guy in the back of your mind. 577 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: Marlon Brown from the Ravens undrafted rookie UH at Georgia 578 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: last year. They expected him to do great things and 579 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: he tore his a c L. He's got size, athletic ability, speed. 580 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: In preseason the last two weeks I saw him make 581 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: more plays and I've seen from Tandon Dawson two years. 582 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: I think he's better right now than Jacoby Jones is. 583 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: He may take him a few weeks, but it would 584 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: not surprise me to see him starting opposite Tory Smith 585 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: by Halloween or so. So he is the underrated kind 586 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: of overlooked KEMBERL. Tompkins, same sort of idea, is there 587 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: anybody is there? What about a Jermaine curses that a 588 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: guy to get excited about is here? In the classic 589 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: summer hype up job. I like him better for the 590 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: Seahawks than fantasy football players. They still have Golden Taton 591 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: Sidney Rice is their top two targets in the passing game, 592 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: and they're still going to be one of the run 593 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: heaviest offenses in the league. I mean, if you were 594 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: looking for a flyer out of that division at that 595 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: same position, Quittin Patton is a better one because he 596 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: hasn't gotten a lot of attention, but going into the 597 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: draft people really excited. We're excited about him. He has 598 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: a clearly defined skill set. He's probably gonna be their 599 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: vertical guy, and he might be their starter in Week one. 600 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: Isn't that possible? Totally? He has to beat out Marlon Moore. 601 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: He can't do that, and I think that's and he's 602 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: on the waiver wire. I need to uh add my fantasy. 603 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: That was it? Well, let's have a couple. Oh well, 604 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: I can give you some names too. But here's a 605 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: rule I've been using. I've been doing fantasy football for 606 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: about twenty years. Never draft a wide receiver three you 607 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: and it kind of is just a philosophy that extends 608 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: to your whole roster. Why draft a guy who's an 609 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: established mediocrity aim higher, draft too wide receiver twos or 610 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: three wide receiver ones. Don't draft a wide receiver three 611 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: and accept mediocrity. Mediocrity, you can get just as good 612 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: as a player off the waiver wire. So don't go 613 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: get I'm gonna say, like a Nate Washington or something 614 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: like that. Don't Yeah, don't do it. They're too easy 615 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: to come by. Go get to go get Steve Smith 616 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: sitting there, who is a legitimate number one receiver and 617 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: his a DP is somewhere around the twenty six wide receiver. 618 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: Draft him, and then you've got two wide receiver twos. 619 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 1: And this extends the running backs to do not go 620 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: get Darryl Richardson. You don't want him. You don't want him. 621 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why people are falling all over themselves 622 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: for a committee back who was undersized and you know, 623 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: doesn't move that latterly, Well, I just don't see why 624 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: people are falling all over themselves for these guys who 625 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: are getting drafted way too high. Use the waiver wire. 626 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: Take a guy like a Bryce Brown, Bernard Pierce. Uh, 627 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: Let's see Roy Halloo, Christine, Kristen Michael. If the starter 628 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: goes down and these guys go in there, you have 629 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: an automatic top fifteen running back as opposed to these 630 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: bums you're drafting and expecting to start. See. This is 631 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: the type of insight that we were looking for, and 632 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: it it ties back to our friend Rum for Johnny 633 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter who who tweeted today? I really wish at 634 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: Chris Westling and at Greg Rosenthal would storm the Fantasy 635 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: Live set wearing n w O T shirts. It's a 636 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: little call back to Turn of the Millennium Wrestling, but 637 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: there could be some heat building right now. Well, I 638 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: feel like this should happen. Now. You're gonna get us 639 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: in trouble. Dan, can I bring a folding chair? I 640 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: think that's what the n w A dudes did right 641 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: There were no rules. Um, okay, so guys, that is 642 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: the end of the podcast. I believe we have on 643 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: Wednesday's a big tip my tip. Why would you want 644 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: my tip because I know I'm not ready to give 645 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: another one. Actually, Greg kind of stepped on wine, so 646 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't really elaborate on it too much. Well, Chris 647 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: is that he hates Darryl Richardson? Was there a bigger 648 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: thever you just never draft wide receiver three? Wait? What, 649 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: I actually have a question. I forgot about that theory. Sorry, Dan, 650 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: I know you just want to get out of here. 651 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: Wes Welker is a number three receiver, I mean a 652 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: fantasy wide receiver three. These wide receivers like when you 653 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: when you start your lineup and you say, oh, this 654 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: guy's a wide receiver one, this guy's a wide receiver two, 655 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: this guy's wide receiver three. It's more like, don't I 656 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: used to call him the Shaan Dawkins All Stars. These 657 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: guys that get eight hundred yards and four t d 658 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: s every year and they still get drafted in your draft. 659 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: Why draft them? Let someone else take them, and if 660 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: you need them, they'll be on the waiver wire in 661 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: in Week three. So I think there was some confusion there, 662 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: and you're right, take the guy that has a chance 663 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: to be a top ten player instead of if he 664 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: does what he's expected be a thirty right, and you know, 665 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: even with and Kwan Bolden being the number one receiver 666 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: for the forty niners. To me, he's a he's an 667 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: established wide receiver. Three. He's not a guy I would 668 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: draft because we know what he is. He's eight hundred 669 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: nine hundred yards inconsistent all year. You don't know whether 670 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: to start him this week or not. That's more headache 671 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: than it's worth. You're gonna lose because you're gonna start 672 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: him the wrong week. Alright, good stuff, experts Um. Wednesday, 673 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: we have a big show. By the way, we're making 674 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: our Super Bowl predictions and uh, I don't know if 675 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna be surprises in the room, probably not, because 676 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: we already announced them on our website. But we will 677 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: defend them and we'll talk about that and then we'll 678 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: be one day away from the season, so we'll have 679 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: all the news leading up to the opener Um. Until then, 680 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: we have thank you to uh k Rich behind the glass. 681 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate you all coming in laboring on Labor Day. Yes 682 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: and yes, and you as well. Yeah, we really appreciate you. 683 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: In here. We have the mailman, we have the boss 684 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: and Mark Sessler, wherever you are, come back to us. 685 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: We need you until Wednesday