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Speaker 2: Cowboys This is Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders,

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Speaker 2: drumping wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state

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Speaker 2: of your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Now your host new He scrugs.

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Speaker 4: All right, Media Mass second show of the new year,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: But the season rolls on. Cowboys twelve wins.

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Speaker 4: Looking to I Say I loved went, looking to make

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Speaker 4: it twelve as they take on the Washington Commanders on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: They're a double digit favorite in the game. The Commanders

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Speaker 4: are going to start Sam how the quarterback Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 4: today speaking and saying that they need to go out

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Speaker 4: here and punch the Commanders from the jump and understand

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Speaker 4: exactly what it is they need to do. Joining us

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Speaker 4: here is the Rice Dad. He is Claire's Hill for

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Speaker 4: four Star Telegram. Got the author Jean Jacques Taylor joining

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Speaker 4: us here from Cowboy Beat Right, also got the new

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Speaker 4: book Got Coach. He's also working on other books and

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Speaker 4: always moving that jj T media group.

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Speaker 6: There.

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Speaker 4: So Pro Bowl comes out, seven Cowboys are on it.

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Speaker 4: Do you have any issue of snub at all that

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Speaker 4: came to your mind, or do you think they got

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Speaker 4: it right.

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Speaker 7: I think you can look at Tyler Smith and say

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Speaker 7: there was a snub, But I also think that Tyler

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Speaker 7: Smith is just not getting started and he's got He's

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Speaker 7: probably a guy who makes it next year, not this year.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Tyler Smith, and because the long made

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Speaker 8: it last year, you know. And I think he's been

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Speaker 8: better this year than he was last year.

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Speaker 7: Even the players, man, they look at sack numbers first, Well.

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Speaker 6: I understand that he had the sat number last year.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, but he's as an impact, but

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Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think anybody's gonna be crying. And

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Speaker 8: then you know, you look at the other defensive ends

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Speaker 8: and on the roster, I think he's certainly one of

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Speaker 8: the if probably the first alternate.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 8: Way he was speaking today when we were talking to

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Speaker 8: him about it, and he was talking about, you know,

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Speaker 8: one of hes gonna be in the Super Bowl, and

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Speaker 8: when I'm gonna be in the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 7: I'm laughing because I remember him telling me a few

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Speaker 7: weeks ago, I ain't really trying to go to Pro

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Speaker 7: Bowl no more. I spent so much money last time

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Speaker 7: I don't want to go, but you know it's uh,

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Speaker 7: you don't never want to go to you don't go,

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Speaker 7: then you're like, well, I ain't all of.

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Speaker 8: That, but so but but I'm with him, piggybacking on

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Speaker 8: him that I think Tyler Smith probably should deserve to go.

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Speaker 8: He it's no secret, it's a dirty secret, I guess.

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Speaker 8: But he's been the best guard on this team. I mean,

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Speaker 8: Zach has the name, has a reputation, but Tyler Smith

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Speaker 8: has been.

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Speaker 6: The best guard.

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Speaker 3: You sound like you like Zach is just is not

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Speaker 3: playing well.

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Speaker 6: I didn't say that.

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Speaker 3: I said you signed like it when you say it

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 4: The three guys who ended up making it in the

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Speaker 4: NFC Zach Martin of the Cowboys, Chris Linstrom of the Falcons,

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Speaker 4: and then Landon Dickerson.

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Speaker 3: Okay, otherwise none of cas of the.

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Speaker 5: Eagles, and they all the highest paid. So I all

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Speaker 5: the high paid.

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Speaker 4: I go back into something Duck College said once before

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Speaker 4: talking about the NBA All Star Game, and he said,

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Speaker 4: if you play long enough, you're gonna make one you

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Speaker 4: probably shouldn't, and you'll miss one you probably should have made.

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Speaker 4: But if you're good enough over time, that should work out.

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Speaker 4: The one thing I would ask about Tyler Smith. Could

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Speaker 4: holding penalties have been used against him? And just this

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Speaker 4: initial I don't know that much attention. I don't think

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Speaker 4: that voters is how much was reputation now, I don't think.

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Speaker 6: I think it's you know, and I hear you and

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Speaker 6: I get that.

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Speaker 8: But there are people like Zach and Tyler, I mean,

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Speaker 8: and and Micaeh and Tyron who come in and make the.

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Speaker 6: Prop boles working. They don't need to build up, you know.

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Speaker 8: They do what they do and it's respected what they do,

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Speaker 8: especially because you know your great teams you have, you know,

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Speaker 8: your great office lines, and what you've done is respected.

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Speaker 8: And I think that Tyler has been the best offensive

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Speaker 8: lineman on this team all season, consistently, from day one

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Speaker 8: to day seventeen, Week seventeen that we're going to week day,

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Speaker 8: Tyler Smith has been the best offensive lineman on this team.

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Speaker 8: It's one of the most prolific offices in the league.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that.

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Speaker 8: He need to be built up, you know, but that's

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Speaker 8: where it goes. Maybe they win one or two more games,

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Speaker 8: you know, they get you know, forty nine ers at

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Speaker 8: nine cow was that seven?

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Speaker 6: You know? And two of those of the you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't listen love Bright Anger. He ain't enough work.

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Speaker 6: I mean that was league and net punting. I agree,

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Speaker 6: there was several games. Did he even have to punt?

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Speaker 4: When head punt Ryan Ainger leaves the NFL and net

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Speaker 4: punting average forty four point nine and has a chance

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Speaker 4: to break the franchise single season net punting record of

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Speaker 4: the point six owned by whom and he said it

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Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 5: Anger also ranked second in the listenings.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing a little Cat Williams.

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Speaker 8: I'm exaggerating to make a point, okay.

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Speaker 5: Deuce in a quarter space year.

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Speaker 6: You know, perfectly to make a point, you know sometimes

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Speaker 6: you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I think I read three thousand books in the year

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Speaker 8: from eight to twelve.

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Speaker 3: Now, if he said three hundred and maybe that's what

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Speaker 3: he meant, I.

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Speaker 6: Need it down.

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Speaker 8: If he is he had three thousand between eight and twelve,

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Speaker 8: which I don't believe. But he said a year, and

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Speaker 8: so that's why people have missed. When he met during

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Speaker 8: his child he said eight year from eight to twelve.

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Speaker 8: So I'm just saying so I's been a little hyperbole

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Speaker 7: Okay, but anyway, which is fingers you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: What I don't know?

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Speaker 8: Tell me anyway, Let's move on.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about defense. NFC Pro Bowl roster.

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Speaker 4: Your defensive ends, Nick Bosa, Montest Sweat eight, Hutchinson with

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Speaker 4: the Giants and Javon Hargrave of the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 7: Yes, man, how can you beat the Washington Commanders and

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Speaker 7: you trade away provo defensively.

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Speaker 4: And who's leading both the Commanders and the Bears Sweat?

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Speaker 5: Do that?

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Speaker 8: And the sad part is, do that is your buck guy?

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Speaker 8: That was the most hYP the hype, most hype when

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Speaker 8: he got you know, he was the number two pick.

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Speaker 8: But what it was, you know, and Sweat is Colin

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Speaker 8: been the most productive one. But yeah, it's it's what

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Speaker 8: it is. And that's why you know, watching got rid

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Speaker 8: of the best player. Some stop going to this week's game.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, going back to the defensive in position and

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Speaker 8: you look at those guys, it's it's Sweat, it's Bosa,

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Speaker 5: Uh captain triple triple.

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Speaker 7: Stop stop, you want me to tell you the beauty

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Speaker 7: of that play. The beauty of that play is as

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Speaker 7: soon as the whistle blue. He sprinted over, pointing.

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Speaker 8: Right, that was the beauty of He sold that thing

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Speaker 6: But that already do the flag, I know. But once he.

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Speaker 7: Said, let me make sure it's not on me, he

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Speaker 7: ran over there pointing it in the shot.

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Speaker 5: You did it, you know you did it. In social

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Speaker 5: media was killing killing.

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Speaker 8: Him like, why did he have him up? He's a

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Speaker 8: penalty waiting happen? They said that later, why they activated

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Speaker 8: he was getting this?

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Speaker 7: I said, I just I didn't go that far se

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Speaker 7: cure like you know, I said, let's go with the

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Speaker 7: extra tack.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, something vain.

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Speaker 4: Hender shot was getting lit up by his own fan base,

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Speaker 4: and media were tearing this man from limb to limb.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 5: But you put out the retraction tweet, right like, sorry.

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Speaker 8: I didn't because I was the first one to put

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Speaker 8: out the fact that there was Hudson, you know who

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Speaker 8: did it.

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Speaker 4: Saying later on though you saw the video that it

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Speaker 4: was Hutchinson, did you apologize that?

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Speaker 5: That's what I said.

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Speaker 6: I didn't slander his name. They called the penalty on him.

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Speaker 6: I didn't. I didn't slander his name.

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Speaker 8: I reported with the physical reporter, and then I reported

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Speaker 8: what I saw, you know, so I didn't There was

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Speaker 8: no slander, there was.

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Speaker 6: No editorial editorial.

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Speaker 8: A lot I didn't editorialize on that tweet, I say,

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Speaker 8: and I got the puilty, which was facts. Yeah, a

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Speaker 8: lot of people you know stated the facts and then

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Speaker 8: ran his name down in the mud. I hadn't put

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Speaker 8: at home, I'm watching the next play. You sitting home.

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Speaker 6: I was, I can't just sitting there. Runs at the game, fool,

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Speaker 6: and I was talking to him.

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Speaker 3: He's sensitive, man, Yeah, why I was coming.

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Speaker 6: To know he the one who said I ran his

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Speaker 5: We got to take it down.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't my point is heat he said through the

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Speaker 8: rock And they realized he was wrong. And now he

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Speaker 8: trying to take he said, he through the rock. I

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Speaker 8: love it. I mean trying to get you man. Now,

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Speaker 8: it wasn't nothing hell about. I'm just saying that. So

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Speaker 8: I'm telling you why I did not ed to tour

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Speaker 8: done because I was you know, it's during the games,

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Speaker 8: I'm watching all these plays.

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Speaker 6: I just stay what happened, and so you have time

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Speaker 6: and on to do that.

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Speaker 8: But you know, it was after the game when I

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Speaker 8: started a video like, oh, that wasn't his leg, that

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Speaker 8: was the other guy's say I started the pointed out

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Speaker 8: and you know, and you know, so it is what

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Speaker 8: it is.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And since we opened that.

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Speaker 8: Door, let's talk about the most controversial play in the

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Speaker 8: history of the.

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Speaker 4: Before you go there, I just won't say that. In

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Speaker 4: the locker room yesterday, I saw hender shots sitting there.

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Speaker 5: Nobody was around him.

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Speaker 6: What anybody would have game out?

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Speaker 3: Did you go over there?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 5: Man, I can't.

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Speaker 4: Well, actually I went to schoolmaker because hey, Michigan will

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Speaker 4: in this weekend, then asked him about that. He's like, man,

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Speaker 4: I wish I was there trying to go on Monday,

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Speaker 4: but then I saw hinder shot there and I just

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Speaker 4: felt bad.

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Speaker 5: I didn't say anything.

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Speaker 7: You just said, man, I can't believe they did you

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Speaker 7: dirty like that. As soon as I saw I knew

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Speaker 6: That's your boy.

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Speaker 5: I went to Collegel. I always been broke guy. I

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Speaker 6: What is his real job? He's coming to that because

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Speaker 5: He still lives out Lumberton, North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: So before the game, Dony was ended up Pat Pat

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Speaker 5: But anyway, getting his pontificate right, yes, but right behind.

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Speaker 5: Did I know.

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Speaker 3: Shuld had exclusive?

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Speaker 6: What is his main job?

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I don't think he's a lawyer.

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Speaker 4: But but I just know if she lives back in

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Speaker 6: I'm not little nepotism hall of Fame. No, that was

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Speaker 5: He's an NFL referee?

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Speaker 6: Stopping my phone, get off my phone.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, he's in I'm not get off my phone.

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Speaker 8: You don't get in the Hall of Fame become a referee. Man,

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Speaker 8: Come on, and you're a bad referee.

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Speaker 6: Stop it.

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Speaker 4: It's a tough year, man. He's like, it's like see

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Speaker 5: He's a bad refereen right now.

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Speaker 6: He's a bad referee in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Just had you know, like the tip picks last year. Now,

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Speaker 3: Wrong plays, wrong time, not.

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Speaker 5: He ain't didn't help him out.

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Speaker 8: Of course, the Ravens ain't playing nobody, so it's not

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Speaker 6: But get him back to that play. You know, I'm

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Speaker 6: with Jerry.

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Speaker 8: You're trying to muck it up. There's no reason to

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Speaker 7: That is why he told his team when we go

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Speaker 5: Because he knew.

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Speaker 7: Have I already talked to the Riffs, They're not going

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Speaker 7: to be prepared for this. This is the winning play.

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Speaker 7: We got him right here, we gotta do the score.

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Speaker 7: And once he scored, that's why he was so adamant

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Speaker 10: But that wasn't the original play, you know that, right, No,

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Speaker 10: because the Cowboys called time out and then they went

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Speaker 10: to that play.

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Speaker 3: Okay, time out ahead of.

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Speaker 8: Time okay, and and and beyond the time out you're

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Speaker 8: sending it. They have to I mean, the whole notion,

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Speaker 8: I'm going to confuse somebody. Even if you send three

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Speaker 8: guys at the referee, Okay, they at the end of

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Speaker 8: the day, the referee has to say such and such

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Speaker 8: is eligible to not.

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Speaker 6: To the defense, to the stadium, to the world.

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Speaker 8: So how you confusing somebody when at the end of

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Speaker 8: the day they have to say such and such as eligible.

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Speaker 7: Now you just asked yourself that question and the man

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Speaker 7: pull called out the wrong exactly.

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Speaker 8: So my point is you trying to confuse the Cowboys

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Speaker 8: and you fuse it. Competent referee dos and been proved

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Speaker 8: to be a competent from Tim Brookes state.

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Speaker 6: That's the problem.

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Speaker 5: But Clarence, real quick, okay.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, it's too late.

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Speaker 10: You sign chill if you're if you're at name some

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Speaker 10: fast food restaurant. I don't know, and you say, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I need a number two, and the guy turns around

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Speaker 10: and goes, this guy was number four. What do you say, No, man,

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Speaker 10: I need a number two.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but you can't at that point, at that point,

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Speaker 8: was he announced that what they're supposed to say, Hey,

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Speaker 8: ref we wanted number six sixty US, but not number seven.

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Speaker 5: On that play.

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Speaker 10: You better do that or it's gonna be.

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Speaker 8: But number one. They had no more time. I was left,

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Speaker 8: there's nothing they can do. They really thought we got them.

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Speaker 8: Now they announced the wrong guy. The cow is gonna

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Speaker 8: cover the wrong guy and our guy's gonna be open. Well,

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Speaker 8: that's not how it's supposed to work. And I'm glad

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Speaker 8: we brought up initially the tripping because at the end

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Speaker 8: of the day, everybody with eight junk over this two

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Speaker 8: point conversion when God got it. If we're gonna talk

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Speaker 8: about bad calls by the official, we have to go

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Speaker 8: back to the tripping call, because if the tripping call

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Speaker 8: is called right by this penbroke state official who don't

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Speaker 8: who's in the Hall of fame, but it's not competent,

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Speaker 8: it's officiating, they wouldn't have had opportunity for the two

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Speaker 8: point play. They would not have the opportunity for the

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Speaker 8: two point play a flag on a guy who did

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Speaker 8: not trip at all. And we listen, the Cowboys have

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Speaker 8: been complaining about officials and calls and not getting calls all.

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Speaker 6: Year, many not holding, you're holding on Tyler.

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Speaker 8: But this guy did not do nothing, and he got

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Speaker 8: a fifteen yard penalty.

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Speaker 6: Penalty at that time of the game, it's ex seven.

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Speaker 6: You know they ain't running about well.

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Speaker 5: Game.

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Speaker 8: You finally get a chance to run out the clock

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Speaker 8: because they couldn't do it. Drive before you know, got

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Speaker 8: the interception, You get a seven yard run on first down.

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Speaker 8: You're really cooking. Now you get maybe score a touchdown.

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Speaker 8: You certainly run out the clock. You certainly make them

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Speaker 8: use more timeouts, you make the music.

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Speaker 12: They're not even opportunity for them to drive down the

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Speaker 12: field and have the two point to play if not

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Speaker 12: for the phantom call on poor Peyton Hendy shot by

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Speaker 12: that Pembroke State official who's Incumbeton, who's in the Hall of.

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Speaker 5: Fame Outside of officiating NFL games.

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Speaker 4: Brad Allen is the executive director of the North Carolina

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Speaker 4: Senior Games and the CEO of nonprofit He also serves

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Speaker 6: Sound like a number tim jobs to me.

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Speaker 8: North Carolina Who Senior Games, the North Carolina Senior Games.

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Speaker 5: That's what he do. Man.

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Speaker 8: You know it's funny because a couple of weeks on

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Speaker 8: the radio, Jerry was talking about how the reason why

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Speaker 8: have great jobs lawyers, and you couldn't get men of

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Speaker 8: this quality to do this stuff if they were.

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Speaker 6: Full time, you know.

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Speaker 8: So we got lawyers and make presidents and judges and

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Speaker 6: The CEO of the Senior Games Carolina. Is this who

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Speaker 6: Jerry was talking about?

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Speaker 8: The accompetence in the character of these guys.

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Speaker 5: Man, one more mess with my boy. Bra out your boy. Yes, boy, you.

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Speaker 8: Didn't even know what he did for a living until

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Speaker 8: you look it up to you google it.

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Speaker 6: All you got to be to be in the singing game.

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Speaker 3: Take a break, man.

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Speaker 6: Working the game.

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Speaker 5: You know why I shut this down yesterday because I

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Speaker 4: I just tried to avoid it.

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Speaker 5: Just knowing that this right here. No, but it's crazy Williams.

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Speaker 5: What he doing out here.

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Speaker 6: But it's crazy.

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Speaker 8: It all out double That was Seriously, it's crazy that

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Speaker 8: the world is the NFL is cheating for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: They stole this game from lives trying to hook up

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Speaker 6: the cowboy. How do you hook him the cowboy? And

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Speaker 6: then the cowboy two years ago?

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Speaker 8: Throw trash on the referees after the after the San

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Speaker 8: you really want to say that I tried to I

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Speaker 6: Remember, you know, most pennalized.

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Speaker 8: Team, last couple Michael Parts playing by the pen. Now

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Speaker 8: for sudden, the cheating for the Cowboys. They ain't won

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Speaker 8: it twenty eight years. You think they want him to

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Speaker 8: win the Super Bowls? They cheating with the Cowboys won

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Speaker 8: at least one time the last.

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Speaker 3: Twenty years they were cheating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like they hooked him up like they

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Speaker 6: Yes, that was That was egregious and that to get.

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Speaker 5: That all right, let's talk about Claire's is tripped in

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Speaker 5: Back to media.

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Speaker 4: Mash Mediamash right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio.

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Speaker 4: I'm NEWI Scruggs, joined by Claire Zil for Star Telegram.

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Speaker 4: Man we got josh Jack Taylor, the author for Cowboy Beat.

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Speaker 3: Writer.

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Speaker 8: Okay U uh got done?

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Speaker 5: Yesterday was an issue.

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Speaker 4: Damie Wilson was signed, but uh lel cownvioll hold up

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Speaker 4: so lel cowns in the full and he was thinking

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Speaker 4: today your thoughts from what you heard from mister Collins.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's funny because you know Lyle Collins, you know,

462
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Speaker 8: you know, artiously left here and then went for a

463
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Speaker 8: bigger contract and money in Cincinnati. And it's sometimes you

464
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Speaker 8: get humble to a certain extinct. Because he was happy

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Speaker 8: to be back, even though it was just a practice

466
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Speaker 8: squad contract. I mean, he was happy and getting to

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Speaker 8: be back, happy to get that phone call. He and

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Speaker 8: Dak are really close friends, and he was like that,

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Speaker 8: you know, kind of put a bug in my ear

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Speaker 8: last week. You know, something may come down the pike,

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Speaker 8: you know, and then we'll call them on Sunday, you know.

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Speaker 8: And he was just happy to get the call, happy

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Speaker 8: to be back. Never sold his house in dollars, just

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Speaker 8: turned the knights back on.

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Speaker 6: He's ready to go.

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Speaker 8: It's a prectice squad deal. And I you know, I

477
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Speaker 8: remember when he was here, he wanted to play tackle

478
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Speaker 8: because that's what.

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Speaker 6: The money was, you know.

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Speaker 8: And now he's coming back and he's working at guard.

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Speaker 8: He's willing to do whatever. So I'm gonna be a leader,

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Speaker 8: help guys whatever they need to do. I'm happy to

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Speaker 8: be here, happy to certainly have a chance to contribute

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Speaker 8: to a playoff.

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Speaker 6: And so it was good.

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Speaker 8: I'm and Zach Martin talked about, you know, just to

487
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Speaker 8: welcome he got just being back in the locker room.

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Speaker 6: Everybody welcomed him back.

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Speaker 8: You know, with open arms, and he was it was

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Speaker 8: like old times again.

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Speaker 4: I think about lelle in an interview that Noah did

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Speaker 4: with him, Noah BUCHELLI did with him many years ago.

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Speaker 4: He went out voting with him and he had said,

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Speaker 4: I'm never leaving here now. He loved being right next

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Speaker 4: to the boot where he's from and everything that Texas

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Speaker 4: had to offer him. And obviously that was before he

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Speaker 4: ran into his issues. But I can sense what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: We you talking about, I'm just happy to be back.

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Speaker 4: And Jacques, you've seen it before and you recovered the

500
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Speaker 4: team full time and claims you've seen it since you've

501
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Speaker 4: been here. There's a lot of guys that when they

502
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Speaker 4: leave here feel some kind of way, and then they

503
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Speaker 4: go other places, then you realize, well, that wasn't too bad.

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Speaker 4: I laughed at DeMarco Murray when he went up to

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia and my buddy John Clark at the NBC up there,

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Speaker 4: He's like, what's this guy's deal. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: n have fun with that one, and and I just laughed.

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Speaker 4: I was like, DeMarco, you like you thought you hated us,

509
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Speaker 4: you thought we were you thought we were jerks.

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Speaker 5: Have fun in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: That didn't last very long, and then he ended up

512
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Speaker 4: going to going to Tennessee. But guys, and you know,

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Speaker 4: and I can't remember which one it was. It was

514
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Speaker 4: one of the players who when you covered him jock

515
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Speaker 4: you know, and didn't always you know, enjoy things. But

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Speaker 4: then when you got done, he was like, man, you

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Speaker 4: were fair, you know once once he's done, you know.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I get that out of time. Oh you

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Speaker 6: killed me.

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Speaker 5: When I was no, I did not truth.

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Speaker 3: Probably put me in dads in that category. Now me

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Speaker 3: and dads are fine. Last time I saw him, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: It's all good.

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Speaker 8: But the thing about it is, it depends on how

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Speaker 8: you live and what you do. You know, if you

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Speaker 8: go home like the Marks where and continue to have success,

527
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Speaker 8: they won the super Bowl, you know, you you it's

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Speaker 8: it's gravy, you know, they're kind of he've left and

529
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Speaker 8: and it's too green and pastors. He's actually become a

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Speaker 8: you know, a respectable, responsible center who contributed.

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Speaker 6: To a winning team. You know.

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Speaker 8: You know, he went to Cincinnati and he got hurt.

533
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Speaker 8: He did not live up with expectations, and they cut

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Speaker 8: him a year later. And so now you're you're you're

535
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Speaker 8: you're fighting for your football life. You want to play again,

536
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Speaker 8: and coming back home with me your spot, you know,

537
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Speaker 8: gave you a soft landing.

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Speaker 6: That's that's that's That's that's what we're talking about.

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Speaker 7: You know, the reality of it is, man, very few

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Speaker 7: cats get a second contract, and and even if they

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Speaker 7: get the second contract, get to end it on their

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Speaker 7: terms and the team that drafted them.

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Speaker 3: It's just very rare.

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Speaker 8: Well, nobody gets to end on their terms, except except

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Speaker 8: except Johnny Alway. I don't Tom Brady then on his turn.

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Speaker 5: A few.

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Speaker 6: Ye, it's just a few. It's rare, Michael, I'm in

548
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Speaker 6: enough trade. But none of them in the none of them.

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Speaker 8: I mean, look at the Cowboys who ended the way

550
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Speaker 8: they want to end, and then end the way you

551
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Speaker 8: wanted to end, Romeo.

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Speaker 6: None of them ended the way they wanted to end.

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Speaker 5: You're right, You're right. It's a challenge here.

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Speaker 4: But also the fact that so many team guys who

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Speaker 4: leave the Cowboys. If the Cowboys are your first team

556
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Speaker 4: and you go somewhere else, a lot of times the

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Speaker 4: shock of oh this.

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Speaker 5: Is how it is.

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Speaker 4: I the first pro team I ever covered the NFL

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Speaker 4: temper was the Cowboys, and then I went from working

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Speaker 4: as I was working in Austin and the Cowboys of

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Speaker 4: training camp down there and got to come up and

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Speaker 4: cover games periodically during the year. So then I went

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Speaker 4: to Cleveland and Belichick was a coach, and I first

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Speaker 4: saw I couldn't believe how where's everybody at first?

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Speaker 3: Where is everybody?

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Speaker 5: Where is everybody? And they're like, where's training camp at?

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Speaker 3: Right here?

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Speaker 5: Fasilly, Bria, Oh, okay.

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Speaker 4: And then one of the biggest shocks to me, Okay,

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Speaker 4: get ready for practice, and they made the media go

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Speaker 4: into this room.

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Speaker 6: What are we doing?

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Speaker 4: They're come in here, and then Eric Man, Genie and

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Speaker 4: somebody else closed the blind and stand outside the room

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Speaker 4: and you had to stay in this room until practice

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Speaker 4: was done. We're doing so it was a whole shock

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Speaker 4: to me about how the Browns operated, what was going on.

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Speaker 4: And and then Vinnie Vinnie only talks on Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: At Vinnie talking, it was on Wednesday. Sure, we talked

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Speaker 5: all the time.

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Speaker 6: What we're doing here?

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Speaker 4: It was it was a whole shocker of how everything operated.

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Speaker 4: It's like, this is not the Dallas Cowboys. And then

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Speaker 4: my thing, she was like, they're the cowboys. You should

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Speaker 4: be happy we're trying to do anything here.

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Speaker 5: There's a whole different world up there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: No, but I would say this, and since you brought

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Speaker 8: up Cleveland, you know, Mary went from Oakland to Dallas

591
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Speaker 8: and certainly different experents. But watching tomorrow from Afar and Cleveland,

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Speaker 8: him sliming Joe fleckgo. I mean, I think he's opened

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Speaker 8: up a little, but I think he's a little different

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Speaker 8: up in Cleveland.

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Speaker 6: So he made I talk to CD. He made the

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Speaker 6: Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 8: He's happy for him and both he and CD, you know,

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Speaker 8: on the Pro Bowl team. But you know, I think

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Speaker 8: that you know, again guy's experiences and we're just talking

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Speaker 8: about guy's experiences once. Whel also depends on how they play,

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Speaker 8: you know, and how the fans accept them, and you know,

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Speaker 8: if they live up to their expectations.

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Speaker 6: You know, most guys when they lead somewhere, they people

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Speaker 6: let you go for a reason.

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Speaker 8: You know, Steven always say, be word afraid because that

606
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Speaker 8: team let him go for a reason. You know, there's

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Speaker 8: a damage, that's somethings going on there that they didn't

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Speaker 8: want to keep.

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Speaker 6: More to resigning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we know Amari, it wasn't about his ability

611
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Speaker 4: to play, no no doubt. This was truly a personal

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Speaker 4: thing and and I disagree with the decision, but that

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Speaker 4: was that was a very interesting call.

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Speaker 5: But you go around there, especially in the media, room.

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Speaker 7: And you know some you also got some organizations like

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys that the media friendly. You got some other

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Speaker 7: organizations that are media anti media, and then you got

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Speaker 7: most of them I think kind of falls somewhere in between.

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Speaker 7: But you got some extremes like the Cowboys are extreme

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Speaker 7: media friendly. Uh even now where we think, well we

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Speaker 7: still can plain because they've cut back so much, but

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Speaker 7: compared to they're still very media friendly. And then you know,

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Speaker 7: you got other organizations that really are anti media.

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Speaker 5: No Denver, that whole that thing. We went to Denver.

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Speaker 4: I just so I told our guys, if the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: have another scream summer screens against the Bronco, We're not going.

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Speaker 5: It was a waste of money.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm never doing that again. He's never doing joint

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Speaker 6: practices again.

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Speaker 5: Good good, because that was that was that was a

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Speaker 5: waste of time.

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Speaker 6: He told us that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, smart on him, smart on it. That was that

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Speaker 5: was that was awful off.

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Speaker 3: Then you know, Sean Payton comes from an anti.

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Speaker 7: Media but Sean was here. Yeah, but he was here

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Speaker 7: during the bill parselves part.

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Speaker 4: But even the bills even you know what what we

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Speaker 4: were able to do with the bills, I mean with

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Speaker 4: under Bill was still more than that.

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Speaker 5: They had a practice here.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember what was it, but the Saints were

643
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Speaker 4: in town. Maybe it was it was it was a

644
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Speaker 4: couple of years ago. It was some kind of storm.

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Speaker 4: So they ended up coming up and practicing at Jerry World.

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Speaker 4: So we go out there for the practice and they

647
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Speaker 4: told us, you know, you could have five minutes before

648
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Speaker 4: The only thing we got to see was some stretching.

649
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Speaker 4: Then they put Winston away down the field. You couldn't

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Speaker 4: even barely see him because you had to stand in

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Speaker 4: this one particular area. That was they considered the media session,

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Speaker 4: and it was three and a half minutes. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: even five. It's three and a half minutes. And we're

654
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Speaker 4: because our news people want, oh Santor here, let's get

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Speaker 4: their thoughts. And I was so hot. I was like,

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Speaker 4: this was a waste of time. I will never come

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Speaker 4: back out here again for another sean. I don't care

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Speaker 4: how many days they stay here. We will not show

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Speaker 4: up again. And like we were going to reveal some secrets,

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Speaker 4: like we were going to be able.

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Speaker 7: To get something every is afraid of. You know what

662
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Speaker 7: the shovel pass at the Super Bowl did the Cowboys

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Speaker 7: turn into a turnover and won again. Changed the whole

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Speaker 7: moment everybody's word about Okay, all right.

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Speaker 5: It's just very very interesting here. All right.

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Speaker 4: Question we asked on the players lines. I want to

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Speaker 4: throw it this way. Do you guys who's got more

668
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 4: playoff pressure this year? Is it Dak Prescott or is

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Speaker 4: it head coach like Karthy?

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Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna answer that now. We do that after

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Speaker 3: the break.

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Speaker 5: No, let's do it right now.

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Speaker 3: More pressure, more pressure.

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Speaker 7: I think the pressure is probably if I was on

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Speaker 7: the outside, I don't know that getting paid next year regardless.

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Speaker 7: So I would say the pressures on macarthury because McArthur

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Speaker 7: could come out here, lay an egg and get fired.

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Speaker 7: I mean I don't think he will, but giving a

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Speaker 7: certain set of circumstances, he could, I don't think it'll happen.

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Speaker 7: I said, very slim like two percent.

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Speaker 3: But two percent is not zero percent.

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Speaker 6: You know, as Jacques Likes said, you like the co op,

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Speaker 6: You know the truth.

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Speaker 8: Sports are fluid, You know this, this conversation is fluid.

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Speaker 6: Tell me how they.

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Speaker 3: That's really what I say.

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Speaker 7: Like if they lose thirty one thirty on the sixty

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Speaker 7: yard field goals, you feel one way, if you lose

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Speaker 7: forty two seventeen, you feel another right.

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Speaker 8: If Dak plays well and one of those Mike has

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Speaker 8: some decision making issues that that cost him the game.

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Speaker 6: You know, then you know it's all on Mike, you know. Uh,

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Speaker 6: But they're tired of the him. You know this.

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Speaker 8: This team is gonna win with this pass offense, and

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Speaker 8: that's Dak has to play well. Mike McCarthy has to

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Speaker 8: call plays. Mike McCarthy was not brought here to get

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys to the playoffs. He was brought here to

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Speaker 8: get the Cowboys to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And I like Mike McCarthy. I think he can.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think he got some time management issues

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Speaker 7: like a lot of coaches got him. I mean, Andy

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Speaker 7: Reid got time management issues like none other. But I think, uh,

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Speaker 7: I think he has the In general, I think he

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Speaker 7: has the right amount of aggressiveness. I think he understands

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Speaker 7: his team when to go for, when not to go for,

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Speaker 7: when we need to set a tone at the start

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Speaker 7: of a game, when we don't.

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Speaker 3: I think he got a good feel for that, and

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Speaker 3: so I like a lot of what he does.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting here your answer, It's just like it was

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Speaker 4: interesting to hear that the answers on the other other

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Speaker 4: podcast I'm a part of and I went to Dark

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Speaker 4: Preston and I don't know it was Kenny Smith who

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Speaker 4: want on TNTs that you make your name in the

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Speaker 4: regular season, you make your fame and the playoffs. And

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Speaker 4: no matter how this ends, Mike McCarthy has a Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl championship on his resume and you'll never be able

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Speaker 4: to say as a head coach, you can't do it,

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Speaker 4: because he's done it. For Dak Prescott, there's things on

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Speaker 4: his resume that he needs to he still needs to

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Speaker 4: check off.

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Speaker 5: And yes, you're correct, Clears, he's going to get paid.

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Speaker 5: We know this.

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Speaker 4: If Mike McCarthy gets fired tomorrow, with the amount of

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Speaker 4: jobs that are open right now, I think Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 4: will find himself employed.

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Speaker 5: You know what he's done here play calling.

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Speaker 4: Dak Prescott is going to finish in the top three,

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Speaker 4: top five voting for the MVP. So clearly he still

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Speaker 4: has the ability to call plays and do something with

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Speaker 4: the quarterback. And we're seeing what he's done with an

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Speaker 4: elite receiver in cd Lan. Dak Prescott's the one where

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Speaker 4: what is the knock we know will be used against him.

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Speaker 5: In the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Can't win the playoffs, you can't win all that's there,

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Speaker 4: and he can erase that he's got the ability to

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Speaker 4: go do that. So to me, that's why I say

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Speaker 4: the most pressure is it's going to be on the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And we know that the quarterback in the last two

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Speaker 4: seasons has not had his best games against the San

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Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers. They can find a way to

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Speaker 4: score three touchdowns. Maybe this time around they can win

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Speaker 4: if they have to play the Niners again. But to me,

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Speaker 4: it's on the quarterback because if he plays well, then

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Speaker 4: this team has an opportunity to reach all their hopes

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Speaker 4: and dreams.

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Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no doubt.

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Speaker 8: And you know I've said that this team will go

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Speaker 8: as the quarterback goes for sure. And this team has

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Speaker 8: been successful as we talked about it yesterday because of

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Speaker 8: the play of the quarterback and can play in the

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Speaker 8: offense and this you know, we came to the season

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Speaker 8: talking about you know, running the ball, took the defense.

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Speaker 6: There's going to be the Chicago Bear defense or not.

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Speaker 8: You know, when they when their success is tied to

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Speaker 8: the offense, setting the tone and that's Dak Prescott playing

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Speaker 8: at a high level, and that's what you need him

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Speaker 8: to do to have success to his player else. And

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Speaker 8: we all know that that Albatrust is Albatross, was on

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Speaker 8: Tony Romo's, it's on this franchise and it's us on deck,

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Speaker 8: you know when you know I was talking to Jack

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Speaker 8: and jocks talk, you know, and you.

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Speaker 6: Know it's on everybody.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 8: You know, too many times we make it about the quarterback.

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Speaker 8: We make it about Tony Rombo. But that's about Jason

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Speaker 8: Whitten too. Okay, that was about de Marcus ware too

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Speaker 8: until he went to dinper Run.

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Speaker 6: I'm not just saying.

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Speaker 8: You you need all your players to show up.

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Speaker 6: I know it's on the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: It makes the most money anyway.

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Speaker 8: I'm not talking about money though, I'm just talking about

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Speaker 8: no I agree, I'm not trying.

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Speaker 6: I'm just talking about the facts to win.

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Speaker 8: Sure, like Troy was the quarterback, but Mike Irvins showed

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Speaker 8: damn up, okay, and the Smith show damn up.

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Speaker 6: Charles Haley showed damn up. Darren with to show damn up. Okay.

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Speaker 6: What I'm saying is we always like to put on the.

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Speaker 8: Quarterback and I understand that and understand that's what the

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Speaker 8: money is highest plaid player, all that other stuff. But

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Speaker 8: to win a title, you need your best players to

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Speaker 8: play their best football. And that's been the problem with

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Speaker 8: the cow Boys. And if we kicked, that's but rightfully

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Speaker 8: so for where he played last year, how many sacks

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Speaker 8: am I gonna have in San Francisco game? He's your

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Speaker 8: best talent. Okay, trevoron dis love it to death, didn't

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Speaker 8: tackle the tight end and drop the pick?

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Speaker 6: Okay, you need.

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Speaker 8: Your best player showing up and so yes it's on Dak,

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Speaker 8: but you need CD. Okay, you need toeing you. You

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Speaker 8: don't need them all to get this done. It ain't

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Speaker 8: no one man carrying this teams the super Bow. I

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Speaker 8: know he gonna get all the credit and all the blame,

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Speaker 8: but the real part is about what do the Cowboys

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Speaker 8: need to happen to win? Okay, and they need Michael

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Speaker 8: being the best player on the field. They need that,

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Speaker 8: They need CD being elite CD. They need those guys

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Speaker 8: playing their best football to get it done.

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Speaker 6: It won't be just Dak. I know he has to

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Speaker 4: was Tyler Smith's starter. Second round pick was Sam Williams contributor,

889
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: third round pick was Jayalen Tolbert contributor. Fourth round pick

890
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: was Jake Ferguson's starter. Fifth round pick that they got

891
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 4: in the Mri Cooper trade is Matt will.

892
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: Let go.

893
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: Pregnant pop ups move on incomplete.

894
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 5: Fifth round pick Doron Bland.

895
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: Fifth round pick Damone Clark, who's been starting fifth round

896
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 4: pick John Ridgeway, who they let go went to Washington.

897
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 4: Sixth round dick pick Devin Harper, No. Seven three ound

898
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 4: pick at all. So that twenty twenty two classes pretty

899
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: is really good draft.

900
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 6: Then you see un talk about twenty twenty three.

901
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you start reading twenty twenty three.

902
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 4: First round pick Mazzie Smith eh second round pick Luke

903
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 4: schoon Maker tight end.

904
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: Take two dudes from Michigan. I mean, what do you expect?

905
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 4: The third round pick d Marian Overshewn, Texas injured training camp,

906
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 4: but had a good training camp. Fourth round pick junior

907
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 4: for Hoko San Jose State.

908
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: He's up from practice squad.

909
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 5: Hey Fifth round pick Austin Richards tackle from North Carolina.

910
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: I've seen him around the locker room a couple of times.

911
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: Sixth round pick Eric Scott, cornerback from Southern Mississippi Fire School.

912
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 5: Sixth round pick Deuce.

913
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: Vaughan hey stake spraying outlet got him on hor and.

914
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 5: Jalen Brooks seventh round draft pick from South Carolina.

915
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: He might be the best of the bunch.

916
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 5: So no Schoolmaker's probably the best of the bunch right.

917
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: There with hey Man.

918
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 4: You can't tell about a draft for three years with Overshown.

919
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 4: I believe with the ability to be a playmaker.

920
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: We can have a much different conversation because sports is fluid.

921
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 5: Sports is fluid, but in a year or two.

922
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: But it's been an underwhelming draft.

923
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: And when I go back to training camp and I

924
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 4: just think about the whole class in general, I think

925
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 4: Overshown has shown you really something. Their schoolmaker had been

926
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 4: hurt coming from college.

927
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: So but to do that, they drafted that they never

928
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: draft to do what they need done. Ain't done nothing,

929
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 3: Mazzie Smith.

930
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 16: See.

931
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 7: The point of that is not just that Mosi Smith

932
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 7: hadn't done anything, relatively speaking, is that they don't ever

933
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 7: take a nose tackle nosegard one technique, zero tech.

934
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: They never take one.

935
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 7: But they said, oh, we have such a pressing need,

936
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 7: we're going to go out of character and take one.

937
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: And then he became a fat guy who became a

938
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: skinner guy.

939
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 7: It's interesting and they won't tell you know, I guess

940
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 7: we're not gonna get this story till laughter the season,

941
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 7: Like how fat guy become a skinny guy when he

942
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 7: needed to be a fatter guy. I mean, your nose tackling,

943
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 7: I ain't breaking no news to y'all. It's supposed to

944
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 7: be an immovable object.

945
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 3: You ain't even gott to make no plays.

946
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 7: Just stay there and don't get moved, which is why

947
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 7: they all weigh like Hankins three fifty three sixty three

948
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 7: seventy four hundred four twenty five five hundred pounds because

949
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 7: you can't move them. We got a three technique playing

950
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 7: those God and that's the collective week, and so they

951
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 7: move him out like here, three technique playing those god

952
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 7: like put two on him in.

953
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: So, by the way, Brian.

954
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 6: Brocke, I know great three techniques to get moved out.

955
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 6: I mean, you know you know war sa I think good.

956
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 6: It moved out of No. Three techniques. So the white

957
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 6: didn't get moved out of No.

958
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: Three technis can We're not gonna compare Monsie Smith.

959
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 8: He's been seven hundred pounds, okay, I don't care if

960
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 8: your three technique one technique, dude s been something.

961
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 6: Both been sapping. You know, you benede hundred pounds, you're

962
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 6: supposed to get moved out.

963
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 5: He had brimz Feld and freaks listen. After that, that

964
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 5: was it three and some change.

965
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 8: I bet he's lifting, so I bet I bet if

966
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 8: he lift it more than anybody else on the line.

967
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: Who just said you gotta wait three years on the draft, who.

968
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: Just said there somebody famous.

969
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 8: Now, I don't think you have to wait three years

970
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 8: because you know they I mean, I think that was

971
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 8: old school because.

972
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: You have to give some cats a little time.

973
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 8: But people move in, move guys in and there so quickly.

974
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 8: They're ask you guys to play because there's no middle class.

975
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 8: They're playing with so many rookies, so many young guys.

976
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 8: I mean, Darron Blank came and showed up as a rookies,

977
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 8: the fifth round pick. I mean, you know, Jake Fergson

978
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 8: showed up. I mean, guys, you need guys to play

979
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 8: now because the economics of the game, right.

980
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 6: And if you if you, if we waiting three years

981
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 6: on you for you to show.

982
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 8: Up, you know, Okay, let me refresh as a draft

983
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 8: class or first round pick.

984
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: They will wait three years.

985
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 6: No, they will wait. No, she caught to you a

986
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 6: first round pick, and I said, you have.

987
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: To wait to see what the class.

988
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 6: The class is a way they throw years on taco chalk.

989
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 7: They waited three years on that other dude who signed

990
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 7: a contract with man Nelly.

991
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 3: Tristian something.

992
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 6: He'll he'll Kim believe leave Kim folk along.

993
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 3: Tristan Hill, is he still in the leader.

994
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 6: He was with the Cardinals? You know got that got

995
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 6: cut by the car. My boy, Tristan Hills.

996
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 5: Brian brought us the Cowboys, Uh Cowboys, Tristan Hills in

997
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: New England.

998
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 6: A lot of.

999
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 5: Still getting folks fired.

1000
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: Brought us and and I guy, Pat DONI keep telling

1001
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: me you need to wait one Smith.

1002
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 5: Don't don't. Don't judge him too too quickly.

1003
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: If I'm the Cowboys, you have to spend this off

1004
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: season basically making two moves. In my opinion, you gonna

1005
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 4: have to go in the free agent Mark and you're

1006
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: gonna have to go draft again because you Smith, because

1007
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 4: you can't count on Massie Smith next year.

1008
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I said I will say this you bring,

1009
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. I ain't going to

1010
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 3: draft another one.

1011
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 7: I'm gonna find me another fat guy who's out there

1012
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 7: in the league and go get Just like I found

1013
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 7: Jonathan Hangens for a six round pick. I can find

1014
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 7: me a fat guy to come in. And then got

1015
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 7: a kid from Texas, Okay, who the defensive player the

1016
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 7: gain all right, what I mean.

1017
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 8: He's a big guy, he's a run stop. He's who

1018
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 8: you want. But again, he ain't gonna lose no weight

1019
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 8: during the season.

1020
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 6: He gonna be three thirty.

1021
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 7: And now I haven't talked to anybody. Maybe Chill has,

1022
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 7: you have to. I think there is something to say

1023
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 7: about it. He played in the which is I have

1024
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 7: a problem with that too. If a dude been a

1025
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 7: read and react guy his whole life or his whole

1026
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 7: college career four years, and then you bring him here

1027
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 7: and say, hey, get up the field. You can't sit

1028
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 7: there and go I wonder why he's slow off the

1029
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 7: ball because he's been that's what he been trained to

1030
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 7: do for four years and muscle memories.

1031
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard.

1032
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 5: Doesn't do it in a year.

1033
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 7: But what I'm telling you is I trust Will McLay

1034
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 7: and those coaches to know, like whether he's like what

1035
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 7: they see to say, oh, yeah, he needs this off season.

1036
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: We'll get it right. He'll be we envisioned next year,

1037
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 3: or where they say, oh we screwed this thing.

1038
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: Up, Okay, let me throw it this one.

1039
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 4: Do you expect him to be what Jaylen Tobert showed you,

1040
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 4: who was inactive mini games. His first year, people were

1041
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 4: looking at him very disappointed. This year he's made a contribution.

1042
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: Do you think he can be that kind of good?

1043
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: He's a good example because he's had a as a receiver.

1044
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 7: He showed you enough for a second year player to

1045
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 7: make me think, oh, he could actually maybe do something

1046
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 7: next year.

1047
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 6: That's a special team guy. I mean, come on, he's

1048
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 6: Noah Brown. When they put it when when you how

1049
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 6: you know it's the run played.

1050
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 3: Next year? I did say this year, didn't.

1051
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 13: I say?

1052
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: He showed He's flashed a couple of things.

1053
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 6: I say.

1054
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 4: My point is the Cowboys have it, still have an

1055
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 4: issue stopping the run. Yes, you must fix this going

1056
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: into next year.

1057
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 17: I'm bringing a bunch of options to face right, a

1058
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 17: free agent player and another draft pick towards that, to

1059
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 17: me need to be addressed because if you're facing the

1060
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 17: Cowboys next year, you're going to do the same thing

1061
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 17: you're doing this year.

1062
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: Hey guys, let's get ready to run and they have

1063
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 4: to fix it. And me, hey, misie waiting to see

1064
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: year two. No, no, you know what, you're gonna get

1065
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 4: the opportunity to fix it. But but we're gonna bring

1066
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: it Jimmy saying, bring I'm drafting some do.

1067
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: That's why they bring in five stars.

1068
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 7: Every year.

1069
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: We got the fire star quarterback, we bring in another

1070
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 3: five star quarterback.

1071
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 8: Tristan Hill has played one game with the Patriots past

1072
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 8: four snaps.

1073
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 6: No tackles, no, So what you're saying is he is

1074
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 6: who we think, no stats, He not the reason why

1075
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 6: they're bad.

1076
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 5: You don't need Rob Mary and Nelly drafting. You don't don't.

1077
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 5: You don't need Rob Mayon Nelly draft coaches.

1078
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: Full in love with players. You need objectiveness, yes, and

1079
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: that's just any cold hearted people.

1080
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 5: The personality here he is Rod here you go. They

1081
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 5: just drop him off. That's all you need to do.

1082
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: That's why Bill Belichick he can't dread. That's why the

1083
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 3: Patriots think.

1084
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: No, he cannot.

1085
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: He can coach, but he can't dread.

1086
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 5: Nope.

1087
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: Well, once Scott got out of the Bill and Scott

1088
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: peel and I'm just saying that it's been been an issue.

1089
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: Scott was also a guy that he respected enough who

1090
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 4: could fight back with him or you guys fight, He

1091
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 4: could debate with him and just say hey, look we

1092
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 4: need to do this.

1093
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 5: And they clearly missed that.

1094
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: Dan Cameron. He wanted them on the sideline, kick the

1095
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: field goal.

1096
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 5: He needs some quarter first, QUI first quarter first. But

1097
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: this this is this league now, and he got all these.

1098
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 6: Coaches, That's what I'm saying.

1099
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 8: Different If it was that the one Gard you you

1100
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 8: fought down at the four, fourth down at the five,

1101
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 8: Why are you going for the stupid.

1102
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 5: Especially off the fact that you ran the fake punch

1103
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 5: so you kept the possession.

1104
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: Get a reward, Get a reward for your efforts. But

1105
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 4: this is what these new coaches are. Everybody wants to

1106
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 4: be Brandon Staley. You just don't want to end up

1107
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 4: like Brandon s Taaley. I can keep on making those

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Speaker 4: glad you had fund the Sugar Bowl. Josh Sayl good

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