1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Monday morning edition of the Daily Juice podcast. 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Matt Paroltire off of Bettingpros dot com. 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: This podcast being brought to you by bet MGM. Okay, 4 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: it's a Monday, Thank goodness, because I do not want 5 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: to go back to last week. What a weekend, man. 6 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: And you know, somebody pointed out to me over the 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: weekend and they said that, hey, do you know that 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: you haven't gotten a day yet where you've gone over 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: on your picks? And so I acknowledged it, and I 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: actually talked a bit about that, and wouldn't you know it, 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: the very first time I go zero to three is 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: the time that I go ahead and talk about it. 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: And that's just my own dumb fault for mentioning it. 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not very superstitious, but I am 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: a little superstitious, and that really stunk. So we'll get 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: to the weekend as to what happened and the four 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: bad beats I had, including two of the most horrific 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: ones in the NBA yesterday that I just want to 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: throw up about. But Lee Sterling of Paramount Sports is 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: our guest. Lee and I have been talking sports, gambling, 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: for a very long time. The first person I ever 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: interviewed on my radio show back in Huntsville, Alabama, was 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: Lee Sterling in the year two thousand when I first moved. 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: It was my first year of covering college football in 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: the SEC. And Lee is one of the guys who's 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: been around for a really long time. He's seen the industry. 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: He covers college football really well, makes a lot of 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: money betting on college football. He's a handicapper. He's also 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: someone who is a professional sports better. So he's going 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: to be our guest coming up here in a little bit, 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: Lee Sterling of Paramount Sports. Okay, to the picks today. 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: We've got two in hockey in one in baseball. I 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: am not betting basketball today because well it's just too awful. 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: What happened over the weekend was just too awful. So 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: we played the over for Portland and the Lakers. We 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: talked about that yesterday, right that layup that could have 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: been hit, it was a three, would have gotten as 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: a push, instead turns into a last second layup. That 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: layup to twenty four. We played over to twenty five. 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: That stunk. Then we got a really bad loss with 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: the Red Sox and their bullpen blowing two leads in 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: the eighth and the tenth inning. 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: Which is just awful. 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: But those were nothing compared to what I was in 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: store for today when the Boston Celtics, as eight point favorites, 46 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: had a chance to win and cover quite easily, and 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: they simply just threw up all of themselves going down 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: the last minute or two. And I don't blame them. 49 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: The game was over. But this is why I said 50 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: on the podcast yesterday. It was minus eight and I 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: was really nervous. I was scared of the pick because 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: of exactly what happened. Now, if you bet Boston minus 53 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: seven and a half, if you bet Boston minus six 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: and a half, if you bet Boston minus five and 55 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: a half, all of those things did not hit. After 56 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: Joelle ebiid Jack's up a last second three that meant nothing, 57 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: but he hit it. He hit it when the Celtics 58 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: were up by seven and the lead. The margin of 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: victory is four, so Boston does not cover the minus eight. 60 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: But that was just a kind of bad beat, the 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: crushing of bad beats. The Scott van Pelt ESPN you 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: must show listen TV. Bad beat was what happened at 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: the end of the Utah Jazz game against the Denver Nuggets. 64 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: When the game was over. The game was over. It 65 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: was a three and a half point line, and I 66 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: tweeted with two minutes to go in the game. You 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: can go to my Twitter account at Sports Talk Matt 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: and you will see this tweet. I say, why do 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: I feel like a last second three point shot is 70 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: going to cost me this minus three and a half? 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: And that is exactly what happened when Jamal Murray shot 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: a worthless three. Game's over doesn't matter, but hey, I 73 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: appreciate the effort. I am all four playing to the buzzer. 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't like it when teams dribble out the clock. 75 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: Take the shot. If you make it, fine, I get burned. 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: He made it. Him and Donovan Mitchell went tat for 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: tat back and forth. It was incredible to watch those 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: guys fifty points, forty five points. First time in history 79 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: two players have more than forty five points on a 80 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: single playoff game on opposite teams. Incredible, incredible performance both 81 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: those guys. But we had it three and a half 82 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: margin winds up being two awful, horrendous, bad beat. It 83 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: goes from five to two. So if you were on 84 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: either side of those, man, those are just coin flip games. 85 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: And it's why betting on basketball is so crazy. I 86 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: have not had basketball beats like that since the NCAA tournament. 87 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: That meant, that felt like a tournament game where you've 88 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: got end of game situations and you're counting it down 89 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: and you're watching every foul and every foul shot, and 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: you're going, all right, Donovan Mitchell, if you had minus three, 91 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: do Mitchell had not missed a free throw in that 92 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: entire series, and Donovan Mitchell missed a free throw right 93 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: before that that would have gotten you a push if 94 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: you were at three. No, I had it at three 95 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: and a half. But if you had it at three, 96 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: that one free throw cost you the ability to absorb 97 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: that three point shot and get a push out of 98 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: it at least. Instead, it's a beat and a loss 99 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: for you as well. So my first zero in three day, 100 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: my first time in the Daily Jews not getting a 101 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: pick correct, and it hurts because, man, we end up 102 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: the week fifteen and fourteen losing week. In Week one 103 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: of August, it's a winning week and we wound up 104 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: in plus money thanks to the plus one seventy five 105 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: we got with the Vancouver Canucks winning their series, but 106 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: we had Vancouver to score at least a goal, at 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: least one goal in their game against the Vegas gold Knights. 108 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: Vegas scored five goals. We had that game completely perfectly handicapped. 109 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: Five goals, Vancouver couldn't score one. I thought Vegas would win. 110 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: I thought Vegas would win four to three. I didn't 111 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: think that they would win five nothing. And unfortunately for us, 112 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: basically the entire last ten minutes was just like figure 113 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: skating and free skate and who cares because they weren't 114 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: really playing because the game was over. They were controlled. 115 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they pulled a goalie. I mean, just a 116 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: brutal just a bad game for us. But hey, if 117 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: you bet Vegas on the puck line, congratulations, that's a 118 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: big play. Vegas is a much better hockey team, and 119 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean a much better hockey team then the Vancouver Canucks, 120 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: and that series will not go very long. And look, 121 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: Vegas very well could be playing back in the Stanley 122 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: Cup with the way they're playing, and all that controversy 123 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: may may have galvanized the team and the agent from 124 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: Marc Andre Flurry tweeting out that picture may have helped, 125 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: because look what happened. I mean, when you do that 126 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: and Roberin Lerner goes in and he shuts out Vancouver, 127 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: that's a pretty big move right there for a guy 128 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: who was supposedly, you know, not the right guy in 129 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: goal in goal for the Vegas gold Knights according to 130 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: the agent. 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Okay, let's start in the NHL 157 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: game one of the best of seven series between the 158 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: New York Islanders and the Philadelphia Flyers. We have already 159 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: bet this at plus one ten on the Islanders to 160 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: win this series. However, when you look at these two goaltenders, 161 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: it's Varlamov versus Heart in net four. Varlamov fifteen goals 162 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: in nine games for Heart thirteen goals in eight games. 163 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: First period under I was making money on the Islanders 164 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: doing this. I'm gonna go back here. We need to 165 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: get some wins here. It's a little expensive minus one 166 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: to fifty, but I'm gonna lay it under one and 167 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: a half goals in the first period here of Game 168 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: one of this series. I think both these teams are 169 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: gonna want to feed each other out a little bit, 170 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: and I'll expect a ton of offense in this game 171 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: first period under minus one fifty Islanders Flyers. Let's get 172 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: some defense going early. Let's get these guys hitting, Let's 173 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: get these guys playing solid defense, and let's not get 174 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: a one to one score scares the heck out of me. 175 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: I don't think either team's up to nothing, but a 176 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: one to one score definitely does scare me. But we're 177 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: gonna take the under one and a half goals in 178 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: the first period at minus one fifty play number two. 179 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: We're not going to overthink this one too much. The 180 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Colorado Avalanche, they've made us money on three overs in 181 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: a row. Here, they didn't score as much as the 182 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: Dell the Star scored in game one. Here is game two. 183 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: It's the Avalanche in the Stars. Eight goals got scored 184 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: in the first game. I think this is an overplay 185 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: again here over five and a half goals. I don't 186 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: think the goaltending's great. I think the offenses are really potent. 187 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: The Avalanche can score. We know Dallas can score. We 188 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: played the over in game one. It came in easily. Well, 189 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: let's go back to the well, let's play the over 190 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: again until it doesn't hit. Let's just keep on playing 191 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: the over for the Avalanche, over over over three straight games. 192 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: Let's play it again five and a half the over 193 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: minus one to ten here in the NHL for the 194 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: Dallas Stars and the Colorado Avalanche. Our third played here 195 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: on the long Form edition on a Monday, Let's go 196 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: to baseball. Let's look at the Rangers and look at 197 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: the Athletics. Jesus Lozardo going to the hill two and 198 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: zero with a three point sixty seven ERA prospect in 199 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: the conversation with Rookie of the Year has had a great, 200 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: great start to the year, facing off against lance Lynn 201 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: three to zero with a one point three to seven 202 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: e RA. Lance Lynn started against Oakland on August the fourth. 203 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: He allowed one run on three hits and six and 204 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: one thirds innings. He had seven ks. Okay, his career 205 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: ERA against the A's a little high at four point 206 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: sixty seven. But Lozardo has been very, very good, and 207 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: the offense for Texas is horrible. Texas is third to 208 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: last in baseball in run scored, they're fourth to last 209 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: in hits, and they're fourth to last in home runs. 210 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: They don't score, all right, they don't score. I was 211 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: tempted to play the first five under here, but it's 212 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: four and a half, and I'm a little concerned because 213 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: the A's offense is pretty good. There are seventh in runs, 214 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: there's seventh in home runs. I'm a little scared of 215 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: they get a big inning and then all of a 216 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: sudden we get torched, and you know, they score five 217 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: runs and maybe it's like a six to nothing shutout. 218 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: Eight and a half is the run total. We're gonna 219 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: play the under here, the under for the A's and 220 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: the Rangers. The A's are very good. I don't hate 221 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: to play for the run. The A's on a run 222 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: line here, but I'm just gonna take the minus one ten. 223 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Oakland versus Texas i'na play the under eight and a 224 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: half runs with Lozardo and Lynn on the mound for 225 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: either of these two teams. This game in Texas in Arlington. 226 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: Runs really haven't been scored much in that ballpark either, 227 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: but under eight and a half runs for the A's 228 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: and the Rangers. So so recap before we get to 229 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: Lease Sterling of Paramount Sports. First period under Islanders flyers 230 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: minus one fifty over five and a half goals, Avalanche 231 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: in the Stars at mins one ten in the under 232 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: for Oakland and Texas eight and a half runs at 233 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: minus one ten. Our guest today on the long form 234 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: edition of the Daily Juice podcast, brought to you by 235 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: Bett MGM, is Lee Sterling of Paramount Sports. He might 236 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: be the most interviewed man in the country during football season. 237 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: As a sports handicapper. Lee has long since built up 238 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: relationship he has talked a lot about. He isn't pay 239 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: to be on radio shows, he just is invited to 240 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: be on radio shows. He's extremely well spoken, he's extremely 241 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: good at breaking down football games, and he's a guy 242 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: who's been around it for a very long time. The 243 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: first ever on air conversation I've ever had with someone 244 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: on sports gambling. I was a youngster twenty years ago 245 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: working in Huntsville, Alabama, was with Lee Sterling of Paramount Sports. 246 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: He and I go way back, and it was great 247 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: to get him to sit down with him and have 248 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: a conversation over the internet about sports gambling and a 249 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: lot on college football. If you like college football, you're 250 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: gonna like this conversation at least Sterling and I had 251 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: here for our long form edition on the Dely Juice Podcast. 252 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: Here's Lie Stirling all right joining us now here on 253 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: the Deally Juice Podcast presented by bet MGM. Is a 254 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: guy that I have known for a long time. I 255 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: think I've spent more time on the radio speaking to 256 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: this guy about sports gambling than any other person in 257 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: the industry. And that's not saying that's not a lie. Here, 258 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: going back to my times in Alabama in two thousand, 259 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: was the first time that I spoke to this guy. 260 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: Lee Sterling of Paramount Sports is joining us here on 261 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: the Daily Joe. So, Lee, how are you my friend? 262 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: Okay? Crazy times? 263 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: You know, you know we're spend a lot more time 264 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: at home, people working out of the house. You you 265 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: got your garter running around. I see sometimes erupting some 266 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: of the some of the radio shows and podcasts, but 267 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: just everyone's just trying to make the best of it. 268 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely. So for those people who might not know your 269 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: background and how long you've been in this industry, You've 270 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: been around sports gambling for a very long time. When 271 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: did you start, what brought you into sports gambling, and 272 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: just what's your backstory? 273 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: Okay, good story. So my twenty played grew up. 274 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: My father was a gunnis and cooking youth leagues and 275 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: actually coaching in high school for years, so. 276 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,359 Speaker 2: Offensive g. 277 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: Didn't know anything when he started when I was six 278 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: years old and read books. I'll never forget one time. 279 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: Since we're going on a trip, it's okay, where we're going. 280 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: We're going to San Diego. You haven't heard this one. 281 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: And we went to. 282 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: Listen to Sid Gilman speaking, former head coach for the 283 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: San Diego Chargers and one of the innovators of spreading 284 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: people out using three and four wide receivers really before 285 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: anyone else did. And my dad heard his heard his conference. 286 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: He spoke to maybe seventy eight people, and my dad's 287 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: taking notes at the time and no computers. 288 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: This is nineteen seventy three, I think, and you know, 289 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: days of John Hadel and. 290 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: Lanceollworth and Dickey Post and Keith Lincoln and Gary Garrison and. 291 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: So it turned out a couple of mats there. I 292 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: don't remember who's that. 293 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: He was there, but afterwards my dad went up and 294 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: started talking to him and since you want to go out, 295 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: and had dinner afterwards, spoke all day and I go out. 296 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: So it's me and my father and Sid Gilman and 297 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: the diagramming plays and talking football at. 298 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: Ten thirty eleven o'clock at night. 299 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: And that's what first got me into, you know, the 300 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: x's and o's of the game and understanding used to 301 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: be back in the day. I could tell a cornerback 302 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: if it was man demand, you know, if you lined 303 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: up on the inside shoulder. 304 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: A lot of times it was that simple. It wasn't 305 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: in some blitz of shit. And ended up my dad 306 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: was a better and he you know, he studied it 307 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: and we usually did well. 308 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: I think there was one year, after two three weeks 309 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: he lost and that was it for the. 310 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: Rest of the year. 311 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 3: Very very conservative at Dennis, you know, and then then 312 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: went to college, played high school college football school called 313 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: south West Texas State. 314 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 2: We won the SCS championship in eighty one when I 315 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: was there and. 316 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: Then was managing leads and shopping centers and had two 317 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: went back for a wedding, had two gentlemen who were 318 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: atturning brothers in mine at University of Texas where I 319 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: transferred to, and they wanted me to come on and 320 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 3: break down and talk about the games. 321 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: Said okay, and I gave out two picks. 322 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: You know, the woman's in US, two women's in Saint Louis, 323 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 3: and then well, I think I went four to one 324 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 3: on one show five and on the other. 325 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: And they're like, people, you don't need to get in 326 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 2: touch with it. They want to sign up for or 327 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: picks and didn't have another. They're like, well you got 328 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: to get them and did. 329 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 3: It on a trial basis the first year, and well, 330 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 3: I'll still work. And then in the off season I decided, 331 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 3: you know what, are gonna give the shopping ons come 332 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 3: back to this, and. 333 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: I sent up twelve cassette tapes in nineteen. 334 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: Ninety three, Wow, twelve case that takes ten of the twelve. 335 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: The different radio stations decided to take my show and 336 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: that was it was off. 337 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: How much did your connection with me to the brick? 338 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: And how did you find your way to meet him? 339 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Because I think the best majority of people across the country, 340 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: at least I think that's where I heard you for 341 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: the first time. I'm not sure exactly what the first 342 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: time I heard you where I reached out you back 343 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: in two thousand to start coming on my radio show. 344 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: But when did you first find that connection? And how 345 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 1: big was that for you to grow, you know, as 346 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: a voice in the industry. 347 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. I did not know JT. 348 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 3: And I remember how we first Oh you know what 349 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: I think I do remember that it was Tom Lead, 350 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: the program director of. 351 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: Fox Radio. He was the first program director. 352 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 3: He'd done a show in Seattle kJ R, and he 353 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: went there and we were talking about you know where 354 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: he think I did a good fit and he thought 355 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: JT and introduced me with JZ And twenty years later, 356 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: twenty one years later, I've still went on with JTS. 357 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: Brec. 358 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: Do you think you've done more radio interviews than any 359 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: other person in the sports gambling sector from an expert 360 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: in a perspective, because now this is twenty plus years here, right, 361 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: every show in America's got somebody on now, but you're 362 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: one of g's here I think to be on. That's 363 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: very true. Yes, you maintained that, right, that's a very 364 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: big feather for you, I think. 365 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 3: So I probably what Richie's the first come ten twelve years, 366 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: I've been twenty twenty five shows, and then I will 367 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: get calls and there's some shows that being I mean, 368 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: I do that well on don't get a whole lot 369 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: of clients, but I just have a work with a 370 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: host and it's like we're having a conversation and then 371 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: just grow. And now between forty five and fifty shows. 372 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: I start on Thursday morning and I go into Saturday right. 373 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: Before kickoffs Saturday football. So it's uh, it's it's it's 374 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: been a wild journey. 375 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: For love in terms of your your own personal betting 376 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: and how you have changed over the years. What has 377 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: it been like to see so much of the legalization 378 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: come through and and the different companies come on board. 379 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: Where you know in two thousand, when you and. 380 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: I start talking for folks, your own just interchange. 381 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: Well at first you did. 382 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: I think Cambers didn't know that they were going to 383 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: get paid, and so almost everyone build the locals then 384 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 3: mainstream and it got out through the internet once in 385 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: that really took hold and people could check and go 386 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: online and see what the rating is on this company, 387 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: and then different websites like VRX, dot com, what else, 388 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 3: eog Major Wager just to some of the name. 389 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: A few people would look up these these companies and 390 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: see if they paid. And you know what, there was 391 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: someone went out. 392 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: Of business and people you know, figured out whoere the 393 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: good wines were. 394 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: And then now we've got you know, twenty some. 395 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: Odd states that have legalized. The difference though in the 396 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: legalized states like Mississippi, it's legalized, but they don't have 397 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 3: the Act. And if you don't have the Act, you're 398 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: you're gonna do no numbers at all. Yeah, Jersey has 399 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: the app. You got to go down and you've got 400 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: to register online. But once you register, i mean New Jersey, 401 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: some once their number are better than than than the. 402 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: Bout and. 403 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: They're doing a pretty good job with it. And I 404 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 2: think eventually, I mean the states that we did not 405 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: think Utah has never. 406 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: Coming in looks like but lates like Washington, California probably 407 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: a year, maybe a year or two away. Florida, which 408 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: everyone fought no way, they're getting close. They're probably a 409 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 3: year or two away. I think for probably two years, 410 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: not this. 411 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 5: Football season, I would say two years from this football season, 412 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 5: I would guess that forty four forty five states will 413 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 5: be legal and probably thirty five to forty will have 414 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 5: a mobile lap and the where we go? 415 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: Lee, You're one of the guys who really has done, 416 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: I think, an incredible job with the handicapping of college football. 417 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: And you mentioned you played college football in the NFL. 418 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: The lines are so sharp you can also find angles. 419 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, with the lower level FBS tide programs are 420 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: not Power five you know, MATC action on a Tuesday 421 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: night or whatnot. Given the fact that we are down 422 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: to three power conferences playing this coming fall, and there's 423 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: a question that whatnot, they're going to play it all 424 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: for you, what's this college football prep year been like 425 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: for the fiment? 426 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm going to do real well. 427 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: And now one aspect has been taken away from me. 428 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: I used to go to spring games and I used 429 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: to be able to get an edge and watch all 430 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: these stapes and great every player in a spring game 431 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: and really. 432 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: Scour the internet. But so that is for me. 433 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: But what I'm going to do, and what I'm doing 434 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 3: this year is I've watched tape. Now there's I think 435 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: seventy six teams playing, and we're looking at watch tape 436 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: on forty four of a seventy six Any junior college 437 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: player that has projected to start at quarterback, mind back, 438 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: and receiver, I've watched the game tape on at least one, 439 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 3: maybe two or three games. 440 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: So the average person, even the sportsbook. 441 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 3: Director, is not going to have time to do something 442 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: like that, and especially early a. 443 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: Lot of people. 444 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: We're only gonna have ten eleven weeks for most team football. 445 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: So I'm going to hit the ground and running. Let 446 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 2: me give you an example. 447 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: So there's a game the first week I think it's 448 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: the September fourth through sixth week, and there's five games 449 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: or sixteen. So one of the games is SMU against 450 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: Texas Ctate. 451 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: My old Amamano used to be tough of Sexas State played. 452 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: Last year in SNU with Chaine Bouchelle new quarterback. 453 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: They they were I think lane seventeen to have eighteen points. 454 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: They went forty seven to seventeen. East. 455 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: Now some people will look at it the line, they'll think, okay, 456 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 3: they're won by thirty. That SNU it's probably going to 457 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 3: be a sixteen seventeen point line. Line hasn't come out 458 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: of yet, but I'm already projecting the lines and I 459 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be in that range. 460 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: So here's a couple angles why I like SMU. So 461 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: Texas has one. 462 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 3: Other two point back's coming back. I rated them nine 463 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 3: their quarterbacks out of one hundred and thirty. 464 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 2: Team last year. 465 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Whoa I think coming back? 466 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: Eleven touchdowns, eighteen interceptions, the kid who is a transfer 467 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 3: trying to beat him out. Looks like they're running neck 468 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: and neck. The guy was awful. The starter, he ain't better. 469 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 3: They running real trouble and this guy has no warm 470 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: He had trouble reading defenses. 471 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: And I'm talking about linebackers in the middle of the field. 472 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: SMU is probably gonna play with the league now. It 473 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: would be a little different offense. 474 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 3: They had the kid kid running back last year, Zandier Jones. 475 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: Kid gained twelve hundred and seventy six yards. They lose him, 476 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: but they have Reggie robertson back. 477 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: He missed. 478 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: I think after week eight he was gone. But I'm 479 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 3: watching take for this kid. They got named Danny grig six. 480 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: Kid played a picket. 481 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: I mean blend junior college watch shelf games on this kid. 482 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: This kid is I mean sprinter speed, good hands, moves. 483 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 2: He's gonna be better, I think than Robertson. 484 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 3: So they've got two guys plus the tight end that 485 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 3: caught you know, like forty to fifty balls, so they're 486 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: gonna throw a ball be a little bit different. 487 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: So they're gonna be playing with probably the lead that 488 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: Texas State. Texas State is probably only gonna have it 489 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: the whole. 490 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 3: Thirty thousand, maybe six seven thousand fans at the game. 491 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: And they're gonna have to throw. 492 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: They're gonna have to play from behind, and Texas State 493 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: can't throw the football, and it's just a great match up. 494 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: Texas State doesn't get after the quarterback. Yeah, I think 495 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: they had like twelve to fifteen sacks. 496 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 3: Sna Use offensive lineman allowed seventeen sacks. 497 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: And here's the clincher. 498 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 3: Seventy is off getting destroyed in their bowl game against 499 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: FAU And yeah, they had some injuries in the game, 500 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: but everything went wrong. 501 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: I like teams coming off getting destroying bowl games, but 502 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: are good teams. And then they also got two defensive linemen. 503 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: I transfer from Stanford, so I. 504 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: Think I gonna return six on defense. Defense wasn't very good. 505 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 3: Offense average forty one point, defense gave up thirty three. 506 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: But defensive line south of Rhine and get after the quarterback. 507 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 3: I think get a kid that had almost thirty starts 508 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: transfer from Stanford. I don't know why transfer. This wasn't 509 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: the last week or so. And then at a junior 510 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: college kid won the top twenty to junior college players 511 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: defensive line. 512 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: So great matchup. A lot of factors going. 513 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: If the lines are under seventeen points, I'll play it 514 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 3: real strong. 515 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: Above them, it will still be a play if it's 516 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: under twenty. 517 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: So when you look at the ACC and the SEC 518 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: and some of the these big rivalry games, what do 519 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: you do with fans or no fans? 520 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 2: I mean, college. 521 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: Football is so much about pageantry and the whole advantage. 522 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, how how is that going to affect it 523 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: in when it's these are eighteen year old, nine year 524 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: old kids playing. 525 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: It's it's gonna be a little bit like the bubble. 526 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: The first couple of weeks were crazy. We have been 527 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: trying to trying to figure that out. I mean there 528 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: was who would think the phoenix would go on the 529 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: feet right, So it's not a home game, it's not 530 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 3: a rogue game. 531 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: It's something different. I think you got a look at 532 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: coaching staffs. 533 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: I think teams that maybe there's a couple of teams 534 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: that have eleven twelve spring practices. That's an advantage, quarterbacks, 535 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: coming back systems, offensive coordinators. 536 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: You're putting if you didn't have a spring practice practice. 537 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: At all, and you've got a new quarter back, you've 538 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: got a new offensive or game, a new head coach. 539 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: You're a trump first couple of weeks. So those are 540 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: some of the things I think will be magnified more 541 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: than rule. And then you're gonna look at the situational thing. 542 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 3: You know, there was some people are like, oh, you 543 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: know Nick saving, he must be tough to figure out 544 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: Nick sings. 545 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: With the Easts when he I loved it when he 546 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: played like the Louisiana Monros. 547 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: There might be a head coach of Louisian Monroe, but 548 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: was on his set and he's playing Auburn the week after. 549 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: I think he cares about the score, absolutely not. 550 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: The record is horrible in record games like that, so 551 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 3: you can jump on most years and you might be 552 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: able to even the first game. Let's say Alabama is 553 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: a tough second game, because they might be a thirty 554 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: five point favorite and he's probably gonna win the game 555 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: thirty one three. 556 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: What do you make of if you see Clemson in 557 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: the ACC? I mean, it's just a runaway again for them, 558 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be Clemson back into time before if 559 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: we have a championship. Anybody in that conference do you 560 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: see as a legitimate contender to Clemson. 561 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 3: I think line is better, but I think there may 562 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: be a little overhyped. You know, everything went right and 563 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: they're recruited and they got a quarterback. Two most important 564 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 3: positions to be a quarterback because they control the ball 565 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: every playing offense, and believe it or not, not less 566 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: tackle because it's defensive tackle live because they stopped to run. 567 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 3: You have to get the pressure up the middle. In 568 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: the pocket, you find offensive ends. Russian passer of college 569 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: football kids. You know, outside linebackers, there's a bunch of 570 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: kids that are six two two twenty five six five 571 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: two forty. But if you can find two guys, they 572 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: can stop the run and get after the quarterback. Why 573 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: was Mini so great in the eighties, nineties, early two thousands. 574 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: Look at those guys that play, you know, Russell Maryland, 575 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: you know, the list goes on and on. They had 576 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: eight or ten guys play in the NFL for a 577 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: dozen years or long. They don't have anyone now, So 578 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: a lot of people don't look at that. Clemson is 579 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 3: clearly number one. North Carolina's doing better, but they were 580 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: the hunter last year. 581 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: This year they'll be the hunter. 582 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: They'll be hunted sec Everyone you know is talking about 583 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 3: obviously Alabama again coming back, but I think Texas A 584 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: and M might might be the surprise team. Return a 585 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: stars on offense, eight on defense. Jimbo year three, they 586 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: had a couple of injuries. They had a great tight end, 587 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: it was injured in fall camp, a couple other guys. 588 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: The running game, they had a couple of injuries at 589 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: running back. Guy ended up getting hurt middle of the season, 590 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: so they couldn't develop the running game. 591 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: Look what he did at Florida State year three, national title. 592 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: So you're looking for a surprise team, that's that's that's 593 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: the surprise team. 594 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: I think there. I think that Florida also getting better 595 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: and better recruiting real. 596 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and then think it's scoring points, defense and points. 597 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: But what about the Big Twelve here and the fact 598 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: that you've got pumping out pro quarterbacks like crazy in 599 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and and just you know their their leg up 600 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: that they may have on the Big Twelve conference because 601 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: of their connunity. 602 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: I don't love you know, everyone's talking about you know, 603 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: it looks like a special round. It might be the 604 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: start a lot of promise. But I think he's got 605 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: kinson headed. I don't think he's all there. 606 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: And they just had great circumstance of finding transfer quarterbacks 607 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: that were incredible good. 608 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: Quarterback coach, I don't think he's the guy. If Texas 609 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: could have a shot there, team I life is Iowa 610 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: State is in Oklahoma State. 611 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: I mean, if Oklahoma State could have played defense in 612 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: the last ten years, they might have won two or 613 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 3: three championships. But I always say, you have a really 614 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: good head coach in Campbell turning quarterback. 615 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: I think Rock Party is going to go in the 616 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: top two rounds NFL drafts. Wow, Yeah, he's he's I mean. 617 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: If he keeps developing, Uh, they put the weapons around 618 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: him and then maybe even Texas Tech. Texas Tech as 619 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: a team that I hol was injured last year. Second year, 620 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 3: they might put things together. They actually play a little 621 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 3: bit of defense out in Texas Tech, whereas in Kingsberry's. 622 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: There you know, uh, you know, it's lay. They let 623 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: everyone just score so they can get the ball back. 624 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 3: So I would say that Texas Tech might be surprised 625 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 3: as there something's going wrong at UH. 626 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: At TCU, you know, the quarterback Dugan may not be 627 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: able to play. 628 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: They're not getting their recruits they got in the pass, 629 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: So TCU might might be in the middle of the packer. 630 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: Best All right, Lee, what we like to do here 631 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: at the podcast at the end, and we like to 632 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: talk about betty strategies and tips for people who like you, 633 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: in the betting world for the first time or just 634 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: relatively new into it. So with college football this year, 635 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: what's your recommendation as to how to bet on college 636 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: football given where we are with all the uncertainty. 637 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so the King college football. Never buy points. College 638 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: points are cheap. Teams go for two and miss more 639 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: extra points. Don't buy, don't ever buy a point in 640 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: college able. I think I've done it maybe once, and 641 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: college is completely different. 642 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: From the NFL. You have to separate that mindset. In 643 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: the NFL, we see a last four is you know, 644 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 3: twenty fourteen one. You can buy a half a point 645 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 3: on or off the number three. 646 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: But look for solid coaching, sash Nick Staban's not going 647 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 2: three to eight against the spread. 648 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 3: It's not going to happen. 649 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: Look for. 650 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: Coordinators and quarterbacks, especially early in the season, that have 651 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 3: worked together, and don't just base your decisions on the 652 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: first game. Most improve them from the first to the 653 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 3: second game. And you'll see a bunch of teams are 654 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 3: playing first games and then they have a week off 655 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: except for the SEC. 656 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: So we'll play that game and they'll go back to 657 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: the drawing board, and that's where a team to get better. 658 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: People bet most of the time the first thing that 659 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: they see and stays in their head almost the whole season. 660 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: So you got to clear your head and look at 661 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 3: the individual matchup and then look at the situational matchup. 662 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: Like you know, Auburn could be you know, six and 663 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: four going into the Alabama on game in Alabama's ten 664 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: and zero. It's rival every game. 665 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: You got to know the situation and you got to 666 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 3: know how that coach and how that offense does consistently. 667 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 2: Against that defense, don't. 668 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 3: I don't like to play first on first year coaches, 669 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: first year coaches, or just you play on first year coaches, 670 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: you bet on them, you're probably going to the pourhouse. 671 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: So I'd rather I see a game early in the 672 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: year two first year coaches. 673 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 3: A lot of times I don't see anything right off 674 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 3: the bat where I do my power range for four 675 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 3: the year sultans, not three or more points off. 676 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: I just passed into one. 677 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: The college football season, I'm curious how the book maker 678 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: they're going to be able to because it is not 679 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, the whole board. Every game they have to 680 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: hang a number. Well, there's gonna be fewer games this 681 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: year than in years past. 682 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 2: Quick, I'm waiting. I mean, we haven't seen there's no 683 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: lines yet right find that full week one. 684 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 685 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 2: I think that they're going to be cautious and I 686 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 2: think they're going to go with traditional teams. 687 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 3: I think, you know, if you just want to bet 688 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 3: the Oklahomas, like I said, I don't think the score 689 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 3: needs to be that good, and you know, we'll look 690 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 3: at what they're doing and and who they're playing. 691 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 2: If they play you know someone and they're they're on 692 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: the road. 693 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 3: Uh, first year quarterbacks struns the rapid fi's a quarterback 694 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 3: and that first road game, that's that's. 695 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: Probably a good opportunity maybe to go against it and 696 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: establish team. So they're going to hang numbers. They want teams. 697 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: They want you to bet on teams you're familiar with and. 698 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 3: Teams that are popular, you know, and the Oklahomas, the Alabama's, 699 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 3: the LSUS, Georgia's, Florida's. 700 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: If Florida plays Ole. 701 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 3: Miss and the line is seventeen, and they're gonna get 702 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 3: seventy five to eighty percent the action they know on 703 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 3: Florida consistently. So they're got to figure out what's that number? 704 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 3: What number can they get to where they can get 705 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 3: some action on Ole Miss? 706 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 1: So does that benefit early dog? Take the dogs early 707 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: and we've won about the rash. 708 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: Well, actually want maybe early dogs, but in some in 709 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 3: some cases, but a lot of times dogs. Like I 710 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 3: put out my recommendations, my wagers to my clients in 711 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 3: the morning on Saturday. 712 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: Mornings, sometimes I just can't play a game because the 713 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: line is no good. 714 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 3: There are some lines on three to five minutes before 715 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 3: the game starts. Let's say Ole Miss is playing Florida 716 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 3: and whole miss. But you know, the line set at sixteen, 717 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 3: sixteen and a half, sometimes three five minutes, four game times, 718 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 3: it goes up to seventeen, seventeen and a half, eighteen points, 719 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 3: and that's. 720 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 2: Where I hit it. I can't get it to my 721 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 2: clients because I can't get it from quick enough. But 722 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 2: sometimes you don't see a good line what I do. 723 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 2: It's like pass there's always more games, there's always another day. 724 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a beautiful thing about what we have on 725 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: our side of the counter is we don't have to bet. 726 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: They got to hang numbers. We don't have to bet it. 727 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: We don't want to hang it or bet the numbers 728 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: that they've hung. In terms of future wagers though with 729 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: win totals, but I know we haven't seen a lot 730 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: of here. We're still waiting for the books to come out. 731 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: Are you going to get involved in all in that market? 732 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: And do you recommend folks you know doing win totals? 733 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 3: Well, maybe a little bit in the NFL, you know 734 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 3: the NFL, I mean going probably the NFL. As you 735 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 3: could have a team get fifteen or twenty players, get 736 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 3: sit for a quarterback, Yeah, and you're done. 737 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: And so I. 738 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 3: Probably played the less song for futures and I have 739 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: ever a win totals in the NFL. 740 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 2: But there's some games like I like in Week one, 741 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of undervalue teams. Let me 742 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 2: give you an example. Detroit Lions not gonna be great, 743 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 2: but I don't tag was any good at all. 744 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 3: And Detroit Towy starts off four and three, four and two, 745 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 3: and then they'll lose the things. Old Stafford was injured 746 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: late last year, and they had a group of bum quarterbacks. 747 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 2: I mean they couldn't get the ball receives. 748 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 3: They don't have a Julio Jones, but they got two 749 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 3: receivers that are top twenty twenty five in the late 750 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 3: as far as power. So they have some good tight ends. 751 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 3: They now have two good running backs and Swift from 752 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: Georgia so and they got some really good Carver cornerbacks, 753 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 3: so they're gonna I think they're cut down on those 754 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: big plays allowed. So they're like plus one and a 755 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 3: half at home against Chicago the first week. You know, 756 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 3: I think they might end up the favorite in that game. 757 00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 2: So I got on early. Another one is Carolina in 758 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 2: Week one, Week one. Now why say that. I love 759 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 2: Joe Brady. 760 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 3: Think it's gonna be one of the best four Gators 761 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 3: we've ever seen great college football. 762 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: Look what he did? 763 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 3: They all shoot, they don't know the Raiders from going 764 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 3: across country. They've got a quarterback situation going there hitting Bridgewater. 765 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,959 Speaker 2: Not gonna win a whole lot of games, I think. 766 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: Not a whole lot of talent, but the week the 767 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 3: biggest weakness is in the defensive secondary. 768 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if the Raiders is gonna exploit that 769 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: Jakes a really good running back. But you like Alabama, 770 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 2: you know what Ruggs was. 771 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the situation is they don't know what what 772 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 3: Brady's gonna employ the games. 773 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 2: So I don't think Caroline is gonna be good. 774 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 3: I don't think they'll win more than four games, but 775 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 3: I like them in Week one against Raiders. 776 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, very cool? All right? Lever, for folks that 777 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: want to find you, where can they find you? How 778 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: can they get in touch? 779 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 2: Website is Paramount sports dot Com. 780 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 3: Twitter, always on Twitter during these games and also talking 781 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 3: to the people who like to follow football and basketball 782 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 3: at Hermount Sports and want to speak to me personally. 783 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 2: Eight hundred, four hundred. 784 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: And nine seven, Lee, thank you, my friend, forcient your time. Okay, 785 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: thanks Matt, thank you for listening. My name is Matt Parolt. 786 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: You can always follow me on Twitter at sports Talk Matt. 787 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: We start a new week and we're getting ready to 788 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: launch a new NFL podcast, by the way, so that's 789 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: going to drop this week, so begin to look out 790 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: for that. The editor in chief himself, Dan Harris, and 791 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: I are going to be doing a fun podcast during 792 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: football season, and we've got some news to tell you 793 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: about as to what we're doing this football season. We're 794 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: in a football contest together, So really cool stuff coming 795 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: down the pike this week with Betting Pros as we 796 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: are rapidly approaching the start to the NFL season. On 797 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: Twitter at sports Talk Matt. My name is Matt Parolt. 798 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: We're back tomorrow for a Tuesday Morning for the Ale 799 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: Juice here off Betting Pros dot com. M m m hmm.