1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Third hour of play in Buck kicks off right now. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, everybody, and we have well 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: I want to jump into where the Democrats are, where 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: their leadership fit stands, all of that coming up here, 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: But first is to deal with this. There's a story 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: out there NPR reporting that there is already a process 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: underway to replace Pete hex as Secretary of Defense. I'm 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: not buying it. I don't believe it. I don't think 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: that's happening. Could be wrong, but I don't. I would 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: I would place a considerable wager that Pete's going to 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: be just fine with this, especially based on what these 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: the the transgressions that are listed in these reports. But 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: I will say this, Clay, there there should be a 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: recognition I think there is with this White House that 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: if you give the media what they want on anything, 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: and they clearly really want this, they've you've pointed this out. 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: I'll get full credit for this observation. I agree with 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: it that because I thought RFK Junior would get far 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: more because remember it's not just that he you know 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: that that he's a guy who goes against the system 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: and Fouci and all this stuff, but he's also an 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: apostate from the Democrat Party, right, He's a He's a 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: refugee from liberalism at least on some issues, at least 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: as it pertains to health. He's not part of their system. 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: They they have focused eighty percent of their cabinet ire 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: on Pete Hagsath all along. 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, it's not just RFK Junior. 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: Tulsea Gabbert did the same thing. I mean, she ran 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: for president as a Democrat in twenty twenty. Both of 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: them got confirmed. And I would say, you know, we're 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: coming up on one hundred days of the Trump presidency. 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: Compared to the amount of attacks that have come down 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: on Pete Hegseeth, it's it's pretty extraordinary how much of 34 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: the has been focused on him. And I think one 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: of the reasons is because he wasn't in the cool 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: kids club in any way, because he was not a 37 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: long time Pentagon official. He didn't work his way up 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: that way. And I think there have been a lot 39 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: of people that were unhappy that Trump picked a proverbial outsider, 40 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: and they really lined up against him in a way 41 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: that frankly wasn't reflected in any other cabinet member. I mean, 42 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: he only got in because JD. Vance broke the tie 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. There were three Republicans who decided to 44 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: vote against him, and nearly it came down to North 45 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: Carolina senator whether or not he was going to get 46 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: confirmed or not. And they haven't really relented on him since. 47 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: Every story that has been written about him in The 48 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, the usual suspects, 49 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: they've all been negative. Now one single positive story's been written. 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: I'll give you one, and that's actually hugely positive. The 51 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: amount of people that want to serve in our armed 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: forces since Pete Hegseth became Defense Secretary has skyrocketed. They 53 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: may not like the fact that he's out working out 54 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: with guys all over the world that are in our 55 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: armed forces, but I think having a youthful Defense secretary 56 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: actually connects with a lot of eighteen to twenty four 57 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: year old. 58 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: Dudes out there. 59 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: I think saying hey, we're going to hire people and 60 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: we want you to kick the bad guys ass, I 61 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: think that's a lot more appealing than find your gender 62 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: identity in the Marines, right. I mean, I think most 63 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: of the young guys and gals that they are hiring them, 64 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: want to serve our country, want to kick ass. 65 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: That's what their goal is. And as is so often 66 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: the case when it comes to opposition to the Trump administration, 67 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: play success for Secretary of Defense Hegseth. While good for 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: the country, democrats view it as bad for them. And 69 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: so if he were able to cont you on this 70 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: pathway to your point about making the military much more 71 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: like the perception that the military was putting out. Do 72 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: you remember remember some of the commercials, yes for the 73 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: Marines when you were growing up, and I remember seeing 74 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: this and that, you know, they had the they had 75 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: the marine dress dress uniform on and the sword, and 76 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: you're like, this is badass. I think I might want 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: to be a marine, right, some of the army ads 78 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: that you would see. 79 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a fighter pilot after Top Gun 80 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: Buck they leaned in. I think they've done a good 81 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: job with Top Gun Maverick. But when I was five 82 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: or six and Top Gun the original came out, how 83 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: could you watch that movie as a kid and not 84 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: want to be a jet fighter pilot? 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: Well, you definitely have the humility to be a fighter pilot. 86 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: Where you go, that's right, that's right, you know, you 87 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: know how you know who a fighter pilot is right 88 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: when he walks in the room, he'll tell you. So 89 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: I got I got to father in law jokes, I 90 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: got to you know. 91 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: Did you see did you see the this is funny? 92 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: Did you see the story that went viral where the 93 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: pilot uh post saw an Instagram influencer and he did 94 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: you see the story and went megaviral. He just wrote 95 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: a note and it just said you are the most 96 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: beautiful girl I've seen in a very long time on 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: a note on like a napkin and just put it 98 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: down with her and wrote like Ben or whatever his 99 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: name was, no phone number, no nothing else, And it 100 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: just rocked the Instagram influencers world. She's like, some random 101 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: pilot just dropped this note on my you know, like 102 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: they were at like a restaurant or bar in the airport, 103 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: and it went megaviral. Millions of people saw it and 104 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: everybody was like, that's a pilot life. You know, like 105 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: these guys just have unbelievable self confidence. They just roll 106 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: right up to gorgeous girls, drop a note, don't even 107 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: give their phone number, just keep walking. Anyway, this thing 108 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: went megaviral and I think ties in with that. I 109 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: don't think they like. By the way, would you want 110 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: an unconfident person piloting and a fighter jet. 111 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: Would you want. 112 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: Somebody who's like, ah, I think I'm okay at it? 113 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: Or do you want somebody who's like, hey, just get 114 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: in kickback, I got you. 115 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: I want somebody who's pretty confident about flying jet. Yeah. Well, 116 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: the person you want driving the plane, flying the plane 117 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: when you're in it is a person who wants to 118 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: be in that seat when stuff gets tough, right, that's 119 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: whatever you want. The person who goes everyone. 120 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: By the way, I don't want a surgeon who's like, 121 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty good. You know, sometimes I get 122 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: the wrong ventricle crossed up on the hearts. No, I 123 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: want somebody who's like, I am God's gift to surgery. Yes, 124 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: I got your brother, don't worry. That's what I want 125 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: to can't. 126 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: But I see this from content on like TikTok and Instagram. 127 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: There's these these different characteristics of medical specialties, and you know, 128 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: cardiac and brain surgeons in particular, just like Hi, I'm God, 129 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: nice to meet you. That's whatever. 130 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: And you know what a lot of those guys also 131 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: learn how to be pilots, because I think they have 132 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: like that idea that they are uniquely skilled and it 133 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: probably is the same mindset that translates to flying a 134 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: plane that operating on a heart would would require, I 135 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: think in many respons Yes. Well, our friend Pete Hegseth 136 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: also does not lack for confidence, and he is the 137 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense right now and he has according to 138 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: Caroline Levitt, this has cut one fully standing behind Pete 139 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: Hegseth at this point. Just play this for everybody. 140 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: The President stands strongly behind Secretary Hegseth, who is doing 141 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: a phenomenal job leading the Pentagon. And this is what 142 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: happens when the entire Pentagon is working against you and 143 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: working against the monumental change that you are trying to implement. 144 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: Secretary Hegswifth. Hegseth was nominated for this position because he 145 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: is standing up for the war fighter, the men and 146 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: women in uniform who are putting their lives on the 147 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: line to protect our country and our homeland. And unfortunately, 148 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: there have been people at that building who don't like 149 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: the change the Secretary is trying to bring. So they 150 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: are leaking and they are lying to the mainstream media. 151 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: We've seen this game played before. The secretary is doing 152 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: a tremendous job and the president stands strongly behind him. 153 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't see that swerving changing walk back. I don't 154 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: think they're gonna put Caroline out there. First of all, 155 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: she's probably talked to Trump about this just a few 156 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: minutes before making that statement, And look at it. It is 157 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: the pleasure of the president, right, So you're you got 158 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: to be in the mind of the man to know. 159 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: But we know Trump pretty well and I don't think 160 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: he sees anything here that requires. The only thing that 161 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: would get Pete canned would be disloyalty to the mission 162 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: or disloyalty to Trump. To me, that's the you know, 163 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: if he did either of those things, and by the way, 164 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: then we would say, yeah, no, he's got to go. 165 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but neither of those things. 166 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: Pete would solve his own arm before either of those 167 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: things happened. 168 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: I also think Trump learned a lesson in the first 169 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: term on many different levels, but one of them was 170 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: it doesn't end if he said, okay, Pete, hegseth, I'm 171 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: gonna remove him. We're going to have a new Defense secretary. 172 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: It's not like the media and the people who are 173 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: attacking him would suddenly say, Okay, you know, we're comfortable. 174 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: The analogy I would make is, and I've been making. 175 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: I've been on this for years. You can never change 176 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: a team name because nobody ever says, once you change 177 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: that team name, hey you know what we're done now. 178 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: So the Redskins name changes, the Indians name changes. They're 179 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: not satisfied. They don't say, okay, well this is good, 180 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: We're back to normal now. They say the Kansas City 181 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: Chiefs have to go, the Atlanta Berets have to go. 182 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: They always need a new target. So if you are Trump, 183 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: my advice to him would be, if you like the 184 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: people you picked, which it seems he did and does, 185 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: why in the world would you let people who don't 186 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: have your best interest at heart in any way encourage 187 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: you to change the choices that you have made so far. 188 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: And I think he learned that. I think he had 189 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: a little bit of Hey, you know, I'll play kate 190 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: my critics. Oh, I'll go ahead and I'll make a 191 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: shift here. If heg Seth's gone, who's next man up? 192 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: It's either RFK Junior or it's Tulsi. They come with 193 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: them guns blazing every day. Well, that's exactly. 194 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: Right, knows Trump knows all too well that if he 195 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: were to replace his secretary of Defense this early, and 196 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: especially a secretary of Defense who has been so closely 197 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: associated with loyalty to the president and his mission, the 198 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: headline of the New York Times is not Donald Trump 199 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: in an about face and a moment of reasonableness and government, 200 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, government acumen or efficiency, decided to make a 201 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: decision that we all agree with. Perhaps we'll see a 202 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: new No, it's you know, showing what disorder there is 203 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: in the Trump administration. Trump has to toss out a 204 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: secretary of defense. This is just the beginning. There's so 205 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: many more who need to go. You know, it's it 206 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: just lights their fire man, it just turns. It just 207 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: makes them feel like they got one. And that's the 208 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: This is the lesson that I'll say. Also, a lot 209 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: of people learn during the whole cancelation era of oh 210 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: if I apologize or if I bend the knee, oh no, 211 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: you ben the need apologize, then you're fired and you're 212 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: never allowed to work again. 213 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 2: In your industry. There is no attempt at goodwill or reasonableness. 214 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: You can't negotiate with these people. This is why my 215 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: lesson that I've taken from this, and sometimes Buck gets 216 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: drawn into it, is you don't like something that I 217 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: did or said, I'm gonna double or triple down on 218 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: what I did or said that you don't like, because 219 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: I think that's the only way you can handle these people. 220 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: If they think that they can get you to step 221 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: back or not continue to say exactly what you think, 222 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: they will take advantage of you. They're not good actors. 223 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: They're not reasonable people. Reasonable people you come together and 224 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: you say, Okay, you might not agree with this, like, 225 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: let's have a conversation. 226 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: This is what most of America is like. 227 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: But the people trying to cancel you, the people who 228 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: want hag Seth gone, they are not the people out 229 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: there that are behaving in good faith. And I think 230 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: Trump had to learn that because I think there's a 231 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: part of Trump and I bet you would sign off 232 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: on this two Buck that actually does want to be liked. 233 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: He's trying to get people to like him more. And 234 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: I think in his first term he thought, oh, maybe 235 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: they have a point. Maybe if I try to work 236 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: with them, they will be more, they'll be fairer. And 237 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 2: then they try to you know, they try to put 238 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: in prison for the rest of the life guy, to 239 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: kill him. And it's over, right, like this attempt to 240 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: in some way make them happy. He's done with it. 241 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that this is one of the 242 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: major lessons from the first administration for Trump, which was 243 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not talking about some of the lower 244 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: level people that had to get fired like Scaramuci and 245 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: some of this stuff, but also those are people who 246 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: just happen to be around and they were staffing up fast. 247 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: These picks that Trump has put in place, this is 248 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: his team, he vetted. He knows these people individually, he 249 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: knows what they're trying to accomplish. And so this isn't oh, 250 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: we just needed to grab somebody and someone else said 251 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: this guy was good. This is I'm going to feed 252 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: one of my people to the angry mob and he's 253 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: not gonna do it, I'm telling you, and it's not 254 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: gonna happen. This is I think this is fake news 255 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: from NPR, which shouldn't be getting any of our money. 256 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: By the way, I think we should tee off on 257 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: this even more than we do. 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And there are a lot 308 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: of different stories that are out there that we've been 309 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: tracking so far during the course of the day, but 310 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: this is one for you, Buck. This is AOC has 311 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: been surging in popularity. You think that she may end 312 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: up being the standard barrier bearer. Potentially it should also 313 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: be a standard barrier by twenty twenty eight. Here's Kevin 314 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: McCarthy saying, Hey, AOC could crush the old guard Democrats 315 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: and become the leader of the Democrat Party. 316 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: This has cut twenty two. 317 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 4: What we're watching live is a civil war inside the 318 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 4: Democratic Party and they're fighting for new leadership. And this 319 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: is what's going to happen. Remember AOC did this exact 320 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: same thing a couple of years ago and the party 321 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: tried to shut her down when she would primary other 322 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 4: members in Congress. And this is what I predict. They're 323 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: going to fight to see who becomes leader of this party. 324 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 4: Right now it's really AOC and Bernie Sanders, But this 325 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: is what's going to happen. They're going to run against 326 00:16:55,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi, Schumer, and jakeem That 327 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: will be a motivating factor. They will raise more money 328 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: running against Democrats than they will running against Republicans, and 329 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 4: whoever comes out of that will become the leader of 330 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 4: the Democratic Party. 331 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: You buy yeah, I mean I look at the field. 332 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: I've said, here's the thing. 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Clay is both 369 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: somewhat dismissive of this prospect, but I think also enthusiastic 370 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: if it were to happen, because he thinks AOC is 371 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: going to be easy for our side to handle and 372 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: deal with. But let's get in silence. First of all, 373 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: there's clearly an issue that the Democrats have right now, 374 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 1: as all the polling shows. It's not just that Trump 375 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: is getting it done and so far it's been a 376 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: really solid administration. It is that the Democrats, I keep 377 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: using the word in disarray. The Democrats are in a 378 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: rough spot. Play twenty three. 379 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 5: I'll think the message the cours from the Democratit Party 380 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 5: is a good and best and the problem we've got 381 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 5: is that we have to depend upon the media to 382 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 5: deliver it if we the Washington Post for instance, caving 383 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 5: to this want to be dictated. I mean, got other 384 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 5: media entity is that seeing to rather push a narrative 385 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 5: that will bring eyes to their newspapers or to their 386 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 5: television sets and not really give a fear sharing or 387 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 5: reporting to what we're doing. 388 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: Now, the media component of this. 389 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: First of all, the fact that he's saying the media 390 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: is not rigged enough in our favor anymore basically is accurate, 391 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: but also really funny that he is making that case. 392 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: But so this is this is where I want to 393 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: weigh on the AOC point of things. The legacy media. 394 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: He's saying, oh, the media is not in on no 395 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: what he's picking up on what Jim clyburn is referring to. 396 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: He's seeing a shift, but he's misdiagnosing the shift. It's 397 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: not that the media isn't as on the Democrat team. 398 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: It's that the legacy, uh, what we used to call 399 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: the mainstream media, you know, the Democrat aligned corporate media, 400 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: the three letter non Fox Networks, the biggest newspapers in 401 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: the country, the Sunday talk shows, right, they all no 402 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: longer have the ability to influence the conversation the way 403 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: they used to, even on the Republican side, but in general, 404 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: and certainly the Democrats side, they don't set the agenda 405 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: for the nation the way that things used to be. 406 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: So what he's feeling or he's saying, is, oh, they're 407 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: not as on our side. It's no, They're just not 408 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: as effective as they used to be. They don't matter 409 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: as much as they used to. So this is where 410 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: I think AOC comes in. I understand people are going 411 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: to say that AOC is an idiot communist and that 412 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: she will be a mess for the Democrats, and I 413 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: don't disagree with some of that assessment. But she can 414 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: just change what she has said in the past. I 415 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: think that we're in an era now where people are 416 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: no longer really tied to what they said yesterday in 417 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: nevermind they said a few years ago. Politically and Clay, 418 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: she has online what do they say? What do the 419 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: kids say? 420 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 5: Now? 421 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: Riz, which is short I believe for charisma. She's got 422 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: the RIZ, She's got aura. She is able to command 423 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: massive attention and interest in the online ecosystem, which is 424 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: now a much bigger part of the media. Apparatus than 425 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: ever before. That is my pitch to you for why 426 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: they change what she says. They make her seem slightly 427 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: less insane. She's, you know, looks good on camera. She's 428 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: a Latin female boom or Latin American female boom. 429 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 2: I think her problem is Democrats are not going to 430 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: go with a woman because they saw what happened to Hillary, 431 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: they saw what happened to Kamala. I think they have 432 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: gotten burned twice by women. Who did they win with 433 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. This old white guy I think they will 434 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: find looking ahead to twenty eight, AOC as a vice 435 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: presidential nominee I think could make sense. I think they 436 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: will find, interestingly enough, an old white guy or a 437 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: Barack Obama like young male, young ish. Right, we're talking 438 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: about politics where if you're forty five, this is the 439 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: this is the westmore were they to me those are 440 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: the two? It's you know that either. So to me 441 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: that the decision the Democrats are making, Clay is are 442 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: they going to build? And remember, this is going to 443 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: be a process. 444 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: Right, So to what you're saying about with AOC, it 445 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: doesn't even have to just be who's the president of 446 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: four years Clay. I mean, who's going to be the 447 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: primary voice of the Democrats going into the midterms, right, 448 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: who's the leader now or soon? Here's the other thing. 449 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: Remember that the DNC basically said, Bernie, you're not going 450 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: to be the guy. Bernie is now trying to deputize 451 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: AOC as the next general ration leader. 452 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: I think we know one hundred year old man thing 453 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: is not actually a good look in politics. We did 454 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: learn that you can, in fact be too old for 455 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: this job. I think the Democrat party elites do not 456 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: like AOC, and so I think they will line up 457 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: in some way eventually, much like they suddenly. The Party 458 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: of Democracy actually just picks people. Right. 459 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: Obama got past Hillary even though she had all the 460 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: advantages in eight But he's the exception. Most of the time, 461 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: they say, hey, you're the guy or you're the gal, 462 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: and Democracy be damned. 463 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: James Cliburn, who you just played. 464 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: Remember Obama came im sorry, Biden came in I believe, 465 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: fifth in Iowa, fourth in New Hampshire, second in Nevada. 466 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: And then suddenly James Clyburn said it's Biden. Because everybody 467 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: was a f it was otherwise going to be Bernie 468 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: It doesn't get talked about enough. But Bernie probably would 469 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 2: have been the pick of the Democrat Party but for 470 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: the rigging in sixteen and the choice that he's too 471 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: radical in twenty they. 472 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: Okay, so let me just throw this out there. Though 473 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: I think put aside the age going at the last 474 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: few Democrats, last few Democrats cycles last few elections, Bernie 475 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: was a progressive, really a socialist maybe a communist who 476 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: ran as such, and that was the problem for him. 477 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: What Democrats want is they want Obama. They want a 478 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: socialist who pretends an election time to be more reasonable 479 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: on economics or more centrist on these different things. If 480 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: AOC pivots and says, you know, oh, it was my 481 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: progressive youth, doesn't haven't say that, but no, that will 482 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: be the perception. Oh she was such a progressive, but 483 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: now she's moving toward the center. That to me is 484 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: the way that the Democrats get because the Democrats for 485 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: them to win a national election. Look at it of 486 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: the Joe Biden. Oh he's good old Biden. He's a centrist, 487 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: he's a monor. You can trust him. And then you 488 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: got a communication from the White House saying we need 489 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: to protect trans surgery for eight year olds or ten 490 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: year olds. I mean it was insane. Okay, you got 491 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: far left policy out of a Biden white House, But 492 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: Biden was the facade to fool people. The trojan horse AOC, 493 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: if she positions properly, in my mind, can be the 494 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: same thing. The progressives know that she's actually a commie, 495 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: but she'll present, she'll go on with Stefanopolopolis and she'll 496 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: say that, oh no, I believe in a free market 497 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: economy too, and you know, the usual headfake. That's how 498 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: I see it playing out. 499 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: I got off the AOC bus. You may remember this 500 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: because you were in New York at the time. Do 501 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: you remember when she opposed Amazon's new headquarters in Queen's 502 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: I think it was in On Islands City, A big 503 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 2: headquarters are Yeah. I have family that have a that 504 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: lived there, so I know all about it. And when 505 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 2: she opposed it, she didn't even understand the concept of 506 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: how tax rebates worked. She thought that taxpayers were giving 507 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: billions of dollars in cash to Amazon, and she. 508 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Torpedoed that entire deal. Am I remembering correctly? 509 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: They were going to build a big headquarters in New 510 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: York City and in DC and then she said no, 511 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: and they basically just are building I believe in northern 512 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: Virginia a big Amazon East Coast headquarters to go along 513 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: with their West Coast headquarters. She destroyed all that. So 514 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: my concern as I were looking at this is Hillary 515 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: got beaten. But Hillary's not a moron. Kamala I think 516 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: was a moron in that Kamala could not elucidate in 517 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: an intelligent way what she actually supported because she just 518 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: tripped all over herself. I think AOC is closer to 519 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: Kamala than she is to Hillary. 520 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: And so is Biden a moron? Yes, okay, he was president. 521 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 5: He was. 522 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 2: He's an old white guy, and the data reflected that 523 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: there were enough old white people who didn't see him 524 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 2: as a threat. This is something you got right in 525 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: the Midwest that I think will see AOC as more 526 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: of a threat, much like they saw Kamala as more 527 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: of a threat to their overall lifestyle. In order to 528 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: get a Communist in the White House, you have to 529 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: hide him. They're able to hide Biden because I don't 530 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: think Biden knew what he believed in anymore, but he 531 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: had that moderate history and they basically just kind of 532 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: hit him. They put him in the basement, and they 533 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: ran him as generic old white guy candidate. I don't 534 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: know who the generic old white guy candidate could be 535 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight. 536 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: It may be somebody, look at Obama, you don't have 537 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: to be a white I mean, you don't have to 538 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: be an old white guy. 539 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: Obama motivated minority voters in a way that was unique, 540 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: which is why I think the Wes Moore analogy applies. 541 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: I think if Wes Moore were talented, then I think 542 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: he could be a charismatic, younger generation leader. I think 543 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: AOC is more aligned with Kamala and Hillary, and I 544 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: just don't think they will pick a woman based on 545 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: going over too with women. 546 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 1: Well, I for one, Clay, they want to shadow that 547 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: class ceiling, and they haven't given up the dream. Unto 548 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: I think that Look, if somebody said, and maybe there's 549 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: a way I can do this, like put money on 550 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: a ticket right now, to me, it's probably Wes Moore 551 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: at the top of the ticket with AOC as VP. 552 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: But I still think that that AOC in the meantime 553 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: is a far more important part of the Democrat resistance 554 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: because Wes Moore can play that role in politics of 555 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: the all American guy kind of a mind. It doesn't 556 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: matter what he really is on policy, right, they'll just 557 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: say whatever. This is the same thing with Obama. Obama 558 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: was a radical state senator, radical leftist. Obama was the 559 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: most left wing senator in the United States Senate when 560 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: he ran for president, and they were you know, and 561 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: then he gave flowery speeches and everyone. Oh, so they 562 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: can do the same thing. I think with Wes Moore. 563 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: So to me it would be Wes more the out 564 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: the ticket and AOC at the bottom of the ticket. 565 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: But I just think that if you're looking for a 566 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: leader of the resistance, uh, Bernie too old, I mean 567 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: Pelosi too old. These people are just no, they no 568 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: longer have resonance with the broader electorate. They all look 569 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: like they should be spending time with their great grandkids. 570 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: One thing that isn't getting very much attention, But I 571 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: think it's interesting. You know who hasn't been very outspoken 572 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: about this, Abrao Garcia. Dude, the governor of Maryland. You 573 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: got the senator getting on a plane going to El Salvador. 574 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Wes Moore is the governor of Maryland. 575 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, if he were trying to tack towards the left, 576 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: wouldn't he be on a plane to El Salvador El 577 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: Salvador about He could be the lead. He could be 578 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: the a bloc first guest on every non Fox, you know, 579 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: left wing cable news show and have a front page, 580 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: you know, a top of the fold editorial in the 581 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: New York Times in an instant if you wanted to 582 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: go in on this subject in a heavy way. 583 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: He's not. I think that's interesting. 584 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: The other thing you've talked about, how I trust football 585 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: fans sports fans more than non sports fans. Yes, I 586 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: think a handshake, it's a cigaret handshake. I think this 587 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: guy is not a fake sports fan. He's a big 588 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens fan. He's got a military background. I saw 589 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: a video of him tailgating, and he didn't look like 590 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: Tim Wall's doing spirit fingers. 591 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: He just seemed like a normal dude who liked to go. 592 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: Have a beer, have a hot dog maybe, and get 593 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: ready for a game. Sports fans can tell whether you're 594 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: fake or not because a lot of politicians want to 595 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: appear to. 596 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: Be regular guys. 597 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: The fact that he's not getting all involved in this 598 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: El Salvador thing super interesting to me because to your point, 599 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: he could be on every television show in the country 600 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: talking about it. I think maybe he's smarter politically than 601 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: he has been given credit for. He can ride above 602 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: the fray as a popular governor and then parachute in 603 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: to the twenty twenty eight race as a relatively normal dude. 604 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: I also know, you know what else, Buck, he actually 605 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: has a pretty good relationship with Trump, which would surprise people. 606 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: I think he has been very happy to meet with Trump, 607 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: call him be at his public events. I think that 608 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: he's smarter than a lot of people are giving him 609 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: credit for, and a lot of people. 610 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: Don't even know what. Yeah, I've said all along. I 611 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: think that he's I think he's the likeliest guy right 612 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: now to be the standard bearer for the Democrats in 613 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: the next election. But that's different than who is the 614 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: leader of the resistance. Between now and the midterms, let's say, 615 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: and I think you're just going to see more and 616 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: more of AOC and that actually may play to his favor, 617 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: to Wes Moore's favor in the general, just because he 618 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: doesn't have to, you know, stay out of his hand, 619 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: stay out of the fray man. Yes, stay out of 620 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: the fray. That's probably a Smart's probably a smart move. Look, 621 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: when I first came across the story, I had to 622 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: read it twice. You'll hear why in a moment. For 623 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: over one hundred and sixty years and acid worth one 624 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty trillion dollars has been buried on American soil. 625 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: This endowment, so to speak, is so large it could 626 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: pay off our national debt four times over. Why has 627 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: it been kept secret for so long? Thanks to a 628 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: Supreme Court decision, President Trump could soon release it to 629 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: the public. 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Making 639 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: America great again isn't just one man. It's Many the. 640 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: Team forty seven podcast Sunday's at noon Eastern in the 641 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio 642 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 643 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 6: Hey, Bud, it's Glenn Beck and I just want to 644 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 6: say congratulations, gratulations, congratulations, sleep while you can, and I mean, 645 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 6: I'd like to tell you a bunch of funny stuff 646 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 6: because it stops being funny when they turn into teenagers. 647 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 6: But that's a long way away from now, or so 648 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 6: you think the most important thing is now that I 649 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 6: have my children, some of them in their thirties and 650 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 6: both of them now, the other the last two in college. 651 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 6: I would just recommend don't miss a moment. You're gonna 652 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 6: be like, ah, I can't. 653 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: Wait for this. 654 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 6: No, they're all the best stages, even the worst of times. 655 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 6: You will miss when you're walking around the house as 656 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 6: an empty nester. So enjoy every moment and keep them close. 657 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: Glenn Beck with dad. 658 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: Message for new Dad, Buck Sexton and your former employer 659 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 2: when you started in the media space full circle there 660 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: and talking about make sure you're enjoying every moment. How 661 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: is the first weekend? Full weekend at home Easter with 662 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: baby boy James. 663 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: It's great, man, it's great. We're having a lot of fun. 664 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of good stuff going on. 665 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: I won't say it's fantastic. I love it. I just 666 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: want to know. I want to get to a couple more. 667 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 5: You know. 668 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 1: I got to stop thinking about grandkids because that's probably 669 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: a ways a way for me, so uh you know, 670 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I really enjoy it. It's fantastic. 671 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 2: A lot of great responses rolling in. We'll get to 672 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: more of those tomorrow. About who's going to be the 673 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: standard bearer of the Democrat Party going forward. I do 674 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: agree with you that AOC is likely to be the 675 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: public facing opposition of Trump in the midterms. I do 676 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: think that that is likely to emerge meaning next year 677 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: at this time, as we get closer to summer and 678 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: everybody started to think about who's going to win the House. 679 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: I think that she probably will work in some of 680 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 2: those areas. But I think if you're smart, this is 681 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: look I'm giving advice to Democrats. If you're smart, running 682 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 2: against Trump doesn't make sense because he's not going to 683 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: be able to run again. You have to give a 684 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 2: vision for the country that is something other than Trump 685 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 2: is hitler, He's awful. I think as soon as the 686 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: midterms are over, you'll actually see, and I've said this 687 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: on the air Buck a pivot towards Oh, the Republican 688 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 2: Party didn't win in twenty twenty four. Trump did. He's 689 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 2: just that good of a politician. His talents won't translate 690 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 2: into twenty twenty eight. Get ready for that argument. 691 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: It's coming. Yeah, I think that's probably going to happen. 692 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: We didn't get too enough talkbacks some calls today. We'll 693 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: take more tomorrow. We just got fired off about a 694 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: few things. But remember send us talkback anytime. You don't 695 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: have to be listening live to the show. Just go 696 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: to the little phone on the little microphone on the 697 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: iHeart app under the Clay and Buck page. iHeartRadio is 698 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: the app, and also check out the Clay and Buck 699 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: podcast networks. Some great shows over the weekend, a lot 700 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: of you're catching up your mon