1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're going streaking. I'm here 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: in the Chris Westling podcast studio with my friend Cynthia Friedland. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Streak in college, of course, not I'm talking about a winning. 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Streak that me and you were freaking on the quad. 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: No, I definitely was not a person that did that. 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: I didn't really know anyone there was that really a thing. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: I don't think so well. 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: Boston College didn't have like sororities or fraternities, so I 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: think that's like a like a frat situation. 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 4: Not like I. 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: Might urizing this, but I was in a fraternity which 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: was at Two Lane University at O. 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: Okay, what's the like acronym? Like, what is it? 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 4: Alpha, taue, mega, and uh, like what's. 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: The like you know, Essay is saying everywhere. 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: It's a it's a great embarrassment to me. And yet 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: we had a lot of fun, you know, like it 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't like fraternities everywhere else where. Like I 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: didn't live in the house, I didn't ever pay any dues. 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: It was just you went out to bar and you 21 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: had fun. It was New Orleans, Okay. When I said 22 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: we're going streaking, Yep. I'm mentioning how the sun is 23 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: shining brighter on us in Los Angeles. The food is 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: tasting better because me and you between us have had 25 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: two straight winning weeks. So if you add it all up, 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: that's four straight winning weeks between the two of us. 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: And yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, you can see 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: our season total. We're still under five hundred, but we're 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: getting close. And the reality is we're on the right 30 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: track right now. Another two in one week. And if 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: I had just stuck with my Seahawks, I was worried 32 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: about them last week. They were they would have been 33 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: my third game I got right. But I got Atlanta 34 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: and the Rams right. You got Miami and New England 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: right last week? Where are you going first this week? 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 1: Three games every week against the spread. 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: So I'm doing this more for the comedic effect than 38 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: any thing, because I know that there is a team 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: that has really, like you've been chasing this team all 40 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: season long and they have done you dirty, and my 41 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: model finally picked them to win, so and I know 42 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: we did. One of those losses has been this stupid team. However, 43 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: I think that the Jets, I think that they win 44 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: straight up wow, which means that the Jets are let's 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: see the what's the one if it was one or 46 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: one and a half, But does it really matter. 47 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: I know they're one and a half point underdog. Sorry, 48 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: but I think they started as favorites. People bet it 49 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: the other way. We're taping this. They are one and 50 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: a half point underdogs to the Carolina Panthers at three 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: and three. 52 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: Okay, so for whatever whatever side of it says the 53 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: Jets win, I'll take whatever. 54 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: Side of it. 55 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Yes, so even if they lost by one, then I'm 56 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: so you would be good in this scenario. 57 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 4: That's right. 58 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: I stopped chasing them two weeks ago. I finally got 59 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: off that narcotic It's felt great. Although they did cover 60 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: last week against the Broncos. 61 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: That game was hard to watch. It was a hard watch. 62 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: Are you you were in person? 63 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: You got to London on Friday evening and then we're 64 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: gone Monday morning. 65 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: That is a quick turnaround. 66 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: And the Jets while you were there, they left Europe 67 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: with more less passing yards than when they arrived. 68 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: That's not a good that's not a good sign. And 69 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: I love this season. Okay, so, but I so give 70 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: me the Jet's case. The real football case. Two things 71 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: really stand out in this matchup against the Panthers. The 72 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: Panthers who have not brought a lot of pressure all season. 73 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: Now I watched a breaking point from the sideline there. 74 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: Those teammates were not happy for Jets s Garett Wilson. 75 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 3: So now we see something where I mean just a 76 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: Field was holding onto the ball for far too long. 77 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: He shouldn't have been sacked nine nine times. That's a 78 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: ridiculous number. So they're going to have to change some things. 79 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: It is time. It is hard to lose all of 80 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: your games in a season. This is a good opportunity 81 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: to leverage Breeze Hall's effectiveness in the rung game. He's 82 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: tied for the second most explosive runs with fourteen in 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: the NFL. 84 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: That's a huge deal. 85 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: On the other side, Jermaine Johnson being back, that is 86 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: a huge upgrade. Michael Clemens and Jermaine Johnson. It's two 87 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: ends of the spectrum here. And I don't mean to 88 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: be mean to him because he is I'm sure he's 89 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: a very nice man. 90 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't know him as a professional. He's made a 91 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: lot of money doing what he did. 92 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: And Michael Clements correct, Yeah, but he can't set the edge. 93 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: Big upgrade for Jermaine Johnson. Yeah, he looked good last week. 94 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: Jermaine Johnson is a big deal, and in this one 95 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: where I don't think they're sure. Tedorow McMillan is great, 96 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: but this is not the same. You know, the Broncos 97 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: defense is really scary, like you got to. I mean, 98 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: that's a hard defense to navigate no matter who you are. 99 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: I just think that the balance point of this will 100 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: be better. 101 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 4: I'm hoping you're right. I'm staying far away from that one. 102 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: I kind of just think it's funny more than anything else. 103 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: Like I'm here for the comedy as well. 104 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't have a hot take on that game at all. 105 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: I actually really like four games this week. So Okay, 106 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: it's very difficult because we have to narrow it down 107 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: by one. So I might go through all four and 108 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: you can help me maybe cancel one out, but I'm 109 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: going to start with Arizona plus six and a half 110 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: hosting the Green Bay Packers. 111 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: Who do you think the quarterback is? 112 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: I think it's probably Jacoby Brissett, but Kyler Murray was 113 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: at practice on Wednesday. Generally, if a starting quarterback is 114 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: limited at practice on a Wednesday. He will start that game. 115 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about who the quarterback is. I might 116 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: prefer Jacoby Brissett. Their offense looked good last week, more 117 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: under center round. 118 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: I have a greater output for Arizona with Jacoby Brissett 119 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 3: than Kyler Murray as well. 120 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: Just so, okay, so they have a bye next week, 121 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: and just reading between the lines with the National Insiders, 122 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: it sounded like they would prefer to rest Kyler through 123 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: the by to make sure that he stays one hundred percent. 124 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: We will see, but the number here is too big 125 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: for me either way. Okay, nobody's beating the Cardinals by 126 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: more than four so far, and they've played some good teams. 127 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: They played Seattle, they played San Francisco, they played Indianapolis. 128 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: They actually have a plus scoring differential on the season. 129 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: They are they are the example of what the NFL 130 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: is all about this year, which is one score games 131 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: and a big fat middle. 132 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 4: They are more like a three and three team. 133 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: Okay, even their wins this year are by wine score, 134 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: so they played in seven sixth straight one score games. Meanwhile, 135 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: the Packers, I think they should be one of the 136 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: best teams in the league, but they haven't really performed 137 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: like it on a consistent basis. They're like seventh or 138 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: eighth in DVOA. Overall, I just think this Cardinals team 139 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: needs this game so bad, and I do sometimes go 140 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: with desperation. They're at home, they're before the bye, it's 141 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: a big moment for them. They have their offensive line 142 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: in place for the first time really since the very 143 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: beginning of last year. I think their defense is well coached, 144 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: and show me the Green Bay game other than against Cincinnati. 145 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: They didn't even really do it against Sin tonight where 146 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: they're like running away. Yeah, that's a long time ago. 147 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: That's Week one. So on the road, I do not 148 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: trust them to go and get this done. I just 149 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: think it's going to be a close game at the end. Yeah, no, 150 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Okay, I have the same. 151 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: I have the same I do have the Packers winning 152 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: the Packers, I have them winning, but I have Arizona 153 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: keeping it close. 154 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: I I thought for our show game debut of taking 155 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals straight up, I just I just can imagine 156 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: it that they have a win that turns their season around. 157 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: But I don't need the win here. It's like why 158 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: I talked about last week. When I went with Atlanta, 159 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't need the win, they just 160 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: need to cover. And same thing with the Patriots a 161 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: couple weeks ago. Maybe they will win. So if you're 162 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: into that, whatever, whatever the number is on the you're 163 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't tell you not to do that. 164 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: So Arizona plus six and a half is my first one. 165 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: All right, you're up next. 166 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: Okay, what's the number you're seeing for Jacksonville and the Rams? 167 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: The Rams are favorite IC three. Yes, okay, I think 168 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: Jacksonville wins. 169 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: Wow, straight up, straight up? Now tell me interesting. Are 170 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: you really gonna love NFL Daily forever? 171 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 4: You know? Yep? 172 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: Oh oh oh okay, yeah, we're old. We're really old. 173 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: If anyone gets that, congratulations. 174 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: People are going to get it's popular song. 175 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: It's a great song. A couple of things. 176 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: One, I don't think Poka nukula will play, and I 177 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: don't think that's accurately priced into this line. So without pukakua, 178 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: the math becomes quite different. Matthew Stafford's passer rating with 179 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: targeting Devonte Adams or everyone else just a lot worse. 180 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: Pooka is so important to this offense, and not to 181 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: say that Sean McVay can't figure some things out, but 182 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: the Jags defense is pretty good. 183 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: Now. 184 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 3: They're without Devin Lloyd, who is the league's interception leader, 185 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: but they've got a number of other pieces that are 186 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: also pretty good. Even though they're not getting a ton 187 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: of pressure up front, the things that they're doing on 188 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: the back end are helping them out significantly so. And 189 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: the Jags, by the way, like London's their second home. 190 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: They have this is we talk about it all the time. 191 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: They've played fourteen games abroad or something. This will be 192 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: their fourteenth game. They're seven to six all in London. 193 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 3: I think that they have a better like like the 194 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 3: day they get the schedule is more set. 195 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: The Rams will get there till Saturday. Do you know 196 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: your heart? 197 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: That is? 198 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I just did that, and I'm like, I'm 199 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: an old a regular old analyst. I'm not trying to 200 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: run at people and hit things and be violent. I 201 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: was just trying to get to London, you know. 202 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: Right knowing that organization, there's certainly one that is into 203 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: sleep science and everything like that, and I think there's 204 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: a lot of disagreeing theories of what's better for your 205 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: body clock. They determined that staying in Baltimore all week. 206 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: They're not doing any media over there. They're arriving, like 207 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: you said, Saturday morning, and then we'll play twenty four 208 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: hours later. That is the latest any team's ever showed up. 209 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Plenty of teams have showed up on Friday. The Chiefs, 210 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: I think, traditionally show up late in the week. That 211 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: do you feel weird getting off the plane? Absolutely, it 212 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: takes it's a it's a problem. If anything else, maybe 213 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: this is what the science is saying. I feel better 214 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: for the first twenty four to thirty six hours. Maybe 215 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: it's like it's almost still like a rush, and then 216 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: it sets in. That is difficult. I am with you. 217 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: I had the Jaguars covering the spread. It's not one 218 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: of the games I considered. I have the Rams winning, 219 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: so I don't feel strong about that game. I do 220 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: wonder if this Jaguars offensive line is not as good 221 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: as we thought. They played some good opponent for them, 222 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: like easy opponents early, and then last week they did 223 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: not look good. They're without they were without their center. 224 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: I think that could be a big deal if he 225 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: doesn't return. But we don't know that far. 226 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: I think both things are true. 227 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's as good as the I 228 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: think it was like three sacks or four weeks something crazy. 229 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: Either four sacks or three weeks or three sex beforeus 230 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: either way. 231 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: And they had two games where they didn't give up 232 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: a pressure that's right, including against the fact I. 233 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: Think that was a little food gayzy. 234 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: But I also think that it's a little bit false 235 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: to say that they're as bad as they looked against 236 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: the Seahawks as well. So I think both things are true. 237 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: I mostly think that the ability for Travis etn to 238 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: get some chunk yards plays. I know he was held 239 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: to just what twenty seven yards last week against Seahawk 240 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: sets very different defense. They don't have the back end 241 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: pieces on the Rams that are quite as great at 242 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 3: helping out, especially in that kind of run situation coverage 243 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: than they do on compared to the Seahawks. So the 244 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: Rams are they're just a different there's different teams. 245 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, you attack them on the ground. I think the 246 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars have an advantage there that the Rams one of 247 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: the best rushing teams in the league. The Jaguars maybe 248 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: a little better set up to stop the run. 249 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: That's close to a coin flip game for me. 250 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: I am glad that we're sending all our UK London 251 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: residents a better game this week because the two games 252 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: overseas so far, really all three, if you go back 253 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: to Dublin, have been very close down to the wire 254 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: and they've all had moments. 255 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 4: But that I do feel a little bad about. 256 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: Sending Broncos Jets over there, And so I think we're 257 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: wrapping up the London portion with the best game yet. 258 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: Two good four and two teams. Okay, Like I said, 259 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: I have four picks. You're gonna help me cancel one out. 260 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: The first one was Arizona. The second one is such 261 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: a funky line Tampa Bay plus five and a half 262 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: that I feel like Vegas is trying to get everyone 263 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: to go with the Bucks. Or maybe they don't think 264 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: like that, like Patrick says, and maybe that's just what 265 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: the numbers say. And I know if you peek beneath 266 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: the hood, the Bucks haven't been as good really as 267 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: the record would indicate. But you know, they are like 268 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: number one in a lot of people's power rankings. They're 269 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: number literally the number one seed in the NFC right now. 270 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: I think for a reason, and that's that they're getting better. 271 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: They're actually getting healthier. And the reason I love this 272 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: and man, I have a hard time even picking the 273 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: lines to win straight up, although I did, but I 274 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: have it as a one point game is the Lions injuries. 275 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: It's a disaster week for them. They don't have their 276 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: two starting cornerbacks and they have to go up against 277 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, and they don't have Brian Branch who's suspended. 278 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Kirby Joseph doesn't look one 279 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: hundred percent. He's not really at practice. Taylor Decker, the 280 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: left tackle, might return to practice. He's up up in 281 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: the air as we're taping. Put it all up there, 282 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: and like, man, you're giving me five and a half 283 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: points for one of the best teams in the NFL. 284 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: I love that one. I'm taking the bucks. 285 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have. 286 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: I have a three point win for Detroit. So I'm 287 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: on the same side as you about that one. I 288 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: did not. I think that it was the combination of 289 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: I mean, a mecha Buka is not playing for sure, 290 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: Mike Evans. 291 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: I think he's back. 292 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to assume Evans is priced is into my 293 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: pricing as back just on the optimism that Todd Bowles is. 294 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: Saying, sure, but is he one hundred like back or back? 295 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 4: Right? 296 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: Because Chris Godwin was back a couple of weeks back, 297 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: you know, like, so he's not back anymore, by the way. 298 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: No, he's unback. He went back to being unbacked whatever the. 299 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 4: Finn at receiver. But yeah, they've shown that they can 300 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: overcome that. 301 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: Of course, but but it helps against the that helps 302 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: the Lions, because I mean, look what we saw from 303 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: the Lions last week against Patrick Mahomes was getting crushed 304 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 3: when Patrick used an intermediate pass. Just death by a 305 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: thousand paper cuts, right, like or intermediate passes are the 306 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 3: paper cuts here. But I don't think that the see 307 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: the difference is is Baker's ability to have you know, 308 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: there's no Xavier Worthy plus Hollywood Brown plus Travis Kelce 309 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: plus they just don't have that debt. 310 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: I give you a Ted Johnson. How about a little. 311 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: You try to sell me on a test? 312 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: How about like an aged nineteen or in maybe two 313 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen version of Sterling Shepherd's kind of like popping up, 314 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: I hear you. But that's why I took the lines 315 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: ultimately to win, and I trust their organization. They haven't 316 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: lost too straight for three years. Now, you trust me, 317 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: I've seen it. You don't think that matters, but I 318 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: do think, like great teams, great organizations, it's tough for 319 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: them to lose twice in a row. I think they 320 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: have a big time home field advantage, and that's why 321 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a coin flip. I'd absolutely picked the 322 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: Bucks if it was in Tampa, but since it's in Detroit, 323 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm taking the minds to win. But I wouldn't be 324 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: surprised with Bucks win straight up, doesn't matter. Five and 325 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: a half points. 326 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: Is a lot. 327 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: It's a lot. It's like they're begging us, which I'm 328 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: I'm a litri. It does feel like a little right, 329 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: I'm at a little kid. Here's some candy for you. 330 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: That does kind of feel. 331 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: I feel good about it. So Bucks plus five and 332 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: a half, let's go with your third pick. 333 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: I'm going for some symmetry here. I'm gonna end this 334 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: one with the Denver Broncos, and I think that they 335 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: win by more than seven. I think that as good 336 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: as we've seen the Giants, and I know it's been fun. 337 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: I know they just beat the Eagles. I did watch it. 338 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: I saw it. 339 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: I saw everything, and I saw what happened against the Jets. 340 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: But ahead of the game, all of those Denver players 341 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: who had been a week and on the East coast 342 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: in Philadelphia ahead of going to they were just over it. 343 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: And not to say that that's like you can't factor 344 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: that into the math. But what I'm looking at here 345 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: is JK. Dobbins, another guy who's grated explosive runs. That 346 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: is where the Giants can get got. I also watch 347 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: these screen passes, and what do the Denver Broncos do 348 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: screen screen? 349 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: You want? 350 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: Do you want to? Let's run a screen line? The 351 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: Giants screen screen screen. 352 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: And you know who gives up a ton of yards 353 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: to screen passes? 354 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: The Giants. 355 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: So as good as their front is, I think that 356 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: the O line plus the screen pass plus the run 357 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: game for the Broncos, and plus how nasty that Denver 358 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: defense is there, that defense is firing on all cylinders. 359 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: Nick Bonito is I'm not suggesting that the that the 360 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: that the front isn't great for the Giants, but the 361 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: back end and the linebacker level nowhere near the caliber 362 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: of what the Broncos are bringing. 363 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 4: Love it. 364 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: What does your computer model do with extra rest? 365 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: Does it matter at all? 366 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: Depends It depends on the extra rest. 367 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: Right, So the Giants in this case, you have four 368 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: extra days rest and. 369 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: They get weak neighbors back. 370 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: No, oh okay, now that would be a difference. 371 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: He's going to be out the rest of the year. 372 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: That's priced into all their numbers. They get the extra rest, 373 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,479 Speaker 1: and Denver's coming all the way back from London. Sometimes 374 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you can factor that in, 375 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: but that does seem like a lot. 376 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: I saw something for what it's worth. 377 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: They're the they're the first team, like in Mountain or 378 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: Pacific to ever come back from London and play the 379 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: next week. It's usually up to the teams if they 380 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: want to take the buy the next week after going overseas, 381 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: they do not have. 382 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 3: It's also alumni weekend, and if you're into like this 383 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: sort of thing, they're honoring de Marius Thomas in this one, 384 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: so and you know he's like the heartbeat up. I'm 385 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: just saying, so if you're looking at these extra factors, 386 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: it's alumni weekend. DT's getting his whatever. The version of 387 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: the Broncos Ring of Honor is whatever that. 388 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: Is, and so I've kept this in my pocket. But 389 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: I disagree who I strongly disagree. But I'm happy that 390 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: you took the Broncos minus seven because what it did 391 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: for me is it made up my mind which pick 392 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: of mine I'm going to eliminate because Giants plus seven 393 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: was one of my four picks I really liked. And 394 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: I want us both to shine right now. We are 395 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: both on a winning streak despite one of your only 396 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: two losses in the last two weeks combined was when 397 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: we went head to head. I don't want to guarantee 398 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: one of us is getting a loss when we each 399 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: winning weeks back to back weeks. So I will just 400 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: put that in my pocket. That's just an extra pick. 401 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: Everyone who's listening knows I feel differently, and I will 402 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: make the case just briefly, which is okay. I made 403 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: the rest case, which I think matters a little bit 404 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: to me. They both just played Philadelphia. If you're going 405 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: to do the pythagoream theorem, I mean, who looked like it. 406 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 4: Was like the biggest thing ever was. 407 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 3: When j Where's Jalen Carter? How do you factor him 408 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 3: not playing? Okay, that's fair he's like, I don't like this, 409 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: I'm just playing. 410 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: We both are feeling great after beating the Eagles. I mean, 411 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: the Giants looked even more impressive beating the Eagles. I 412 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: liked what I thought saw out of the Giants defense 413 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: last week. I thought they were more creative, really. 414 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: Confused, they more creative or I think they. 415 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: Stole some stuff from the Broncos because they were sure, 416 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: but they were showing more of like. 417 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: Tell me what you're thinking about that Eagles offense being 418 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: creative and I will wait. 419 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: Right, fair, I will wait. 420 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: But what they did was they showed some of the 421 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: simulated press that they wanted wanted. They showed some post 422 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: snap movement, like the things that we haven't seen out 423 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: of Shane Bowen and that Giants defense very often. I 424 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: thought they did well, like some run blitzes, all this stuff. 425 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that's great. And then the bigger 426 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: factor here is you know since Jackson Dart took over. Yeah, 427 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: they're two and one and they've covered twice the Broncos. 428 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this because they are not 429 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: they the Saints and you know why five Street term 430 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: uh huh. 431 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: You know, you know what happens when you have a 432 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: lot of pressure, like the most pressure in the league. 433 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, that could happen. 434 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: You know how many times the Broncos have covered all year, 435 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: because I was thinking about it. 436 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: They have not really had many convincing games. 437 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: And that's why when I see seven and I wouldn't 438 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: be that shocked if the underdog wins the game, which 439 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: I personally would not be that shocked this week obviously 440 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: you would. 441 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 4: Then I just like taking that many points. 442 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: The Broncos have only covered twice all year, you know, 443 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: Once was as the underdog to the Eagles, which by 444 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: the way, was my pick that week. 445 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 4: The other time was against the Bengals. 446 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: You pack them straight up, but they've They've had some 447 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: spots where they're heavy favorites against the Titans and and 448 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: other times where their favorites and they and they haven't won. 449 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: So I just thought, if you look at these two teams, 450 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: I think they're closer than people think. 451 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: But you disagree. 452 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: And the math the model has been right again and 453 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: again over the years for good reasons. So I'm happy 454 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: to just have that be my just put put it 455 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: in the pocket. So what's the official Oh, that's right, 456 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: I need it's Chiefs minus eleven and a half. It's 457 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: not fun. You made fun of me last week for 458 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: switching into like rams or like that's not exciting. And 459 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: their minus seven and a half against the Ravens. It's 460 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: all exciting when you know, you get exciting. Yes, so 461 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: to be this is just an old school Kansas City team. 462 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: You you probably don't have these numbers right in front 463 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: of you because they might ask you ahead of time, 464 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: But just do you have an overall efficiency metric for 465 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: offense and defense? Because okay, what what is the Chiefs 466 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: right now on offense? 467 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: Well? 468 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: If factors in the whole season? Are you talking week? 469 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: I mean even the whole season, the whole season. 470 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm guessing it's really high for what it's worth. 471 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: I'll let you look it up. 472 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: Look at it. 473 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, DVOA has them as the number two offense now 474 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: in the league and the number eighteen defense. No, that's perfect, 475 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: and like what is the defense? Somewhere more in the middle. 476 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: I would guess it's an old school Chiefs team, is my. 477 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: After last week it's fourteen? 478 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is these are the Chiefs teams we 479 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: grew up, you know, we were just little kids when 480 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: they little whip, when when they were going up and 481 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: down the field and Patrick Mahomes was winning his first MVP. Uh, 482 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: it's an old school type of Chiefs team that I 483 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: can recognize. A great offensive line and I'm maybe a 484 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: good to great offensive line, Mahomes making plays on the move, 485 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: Mahomes making plays down the field, and then team of speed. 486 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: You are taking Juju Smith Schuster off the field, going 487 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: from probably about forty snaps to about twelve. He'll be 488 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: in there for run blocking. And then you are inserting 489 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: Rashi Rice into those snaps almost the same role, who 490 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: looked fantastic by the end of last year, who I 491 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: just think is gonna take off, and you have him 492 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: and Worthy and when they want to use Thorton on 493 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: the field all at the same time. Man, this is 494 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: a fast defense with a lot of pass pro against 495 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: a Raiders team that just can't protect. 496 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: Forget it. Yeah, I mean put up thirty five to fourteen. 497 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: I apologize to Gino Smith, but I just think this 498 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: Raiders seems one of the worst teams in the league. 499 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 2: Since twenty eighteen. 500 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 3: The win margin averaged for the Chiefs thirteen point three points. 501 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: So I'm actually with you, I have a thirteen point win. 502 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: Let's go for she Rice. This was interesting. You know 503 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 3: how conservative my model tends to be. Yes, well, prior 504 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: I looked at it like without and with Rashie Rich 505 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: just because I was curious what difference he would make 506 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: in this one. 507 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: And it's one full point. 508 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 4: That's a lot, lot for a receiver. 509 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: That's a lot for me. 510 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 3: Like, that's like, that's I mean, there's some quarterbacks that 511 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: don't give a one. 512 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 4: Point that's great, that's crazy. 513 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: But it's also the matchup, right, the matchup where you 514 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: now have you know, the secondary of the Raiders, this 515 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: one where it's not maybe the strongest. 516 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've talked about the intermediate game last week for 517 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and you can you can imagine the safeties, 518 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: the linebackers for the Raiders getting picked on. All right, 519 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: your picks are Denver plus seven or minus seven rautds. 520 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: I say I'll take Denver plus seven all day. There 521 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: we go. 522 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: Yep. 523 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: You have the Broncos as a touchdown favorite at home. 524 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: You have the Jets as a one and a half 525 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: point underdog doggy at home. 526 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 4: Just that's spicy. 527 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: And then you have the Jaguars in London technically a 528 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: home game, but we. 529 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: Know that it's a neutral game. 530 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: I would say for this so that the Jaguars will 531 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: have more fans than the Rams there. 532 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 4: I don't know. 533 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: I think those fans are hilarious. I was a big fan. 534 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: Like they're just fans of the whole sport, the songs, 535 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: all of it. You know you've been the fans are great. 536 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: Fans are awesome. 537 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 4: I've been to a lot of the international games. 538 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: Now, the Dublin crowd was different because it was a 539 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: Steelers home game. It was really crazy to see a 540 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: Steelers home game in Dublin. But so many Dublin and 541 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: Steelers fans and so many people just travel traveled for 542 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: that game. Patrick Queen even said it afterwards like they 543 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: were louder throughout than the home crowd in Pittsburgh. But 544 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: this this week, it'll just be a great celebration of football. 545 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: My picks, you crossed me out from going Giants plus seven. 546 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to go against you, so that's just 547 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: an extra one. But I go Chiefs minus eleven and 548 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: a half, Bucks plus five and a half and the 549 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: Cardinals the other one. 550 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 3: Just keep it an eye the Cardinals, you're getting five 551 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: and a half to six and a half, six and 552 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 3: a half for the Cardinals. 553 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: Do not take that point away. 554 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: Sorry, no, no, no, I thought it was five and a half. 555 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: So six and a half. 556 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: It's a juicy one. I was hoping it get up 557 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: to seven. It did not. I was keeping an eye 558 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: on that Washington game. But now the injury reports so weird. 559 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: With Deebo and Terry mcclaurin. 560 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: I think that whatever the number is, whatever the number is, though, yeah, 561 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 3: I think that it's too low. I think that's going 562 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: to be like to the Moon game. 563 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: Oh in terms of the over under, I got you. Yeah, 564 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: I agree with you on that as well. So just 565 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: keep an eye on the injury pere. I do kind 566 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: of like the Commanders. All right, that is it for 567 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: our Week seven picks. We're making some progress here in 568 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: terms of the season, and we're making progress in terms 569 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: of our picks. We will be back Sunday night myself, 570 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: Patrick Claybahn, Jordan rod Rigg, and Nick Shook for your 571 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: Week seven recap. 572 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 4: We will see you that