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Speaker 1: So this is our Easter edition. We are taping this

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh is one of the more successful college NFL

426
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Speaker 3: coaches we've ever seen. When he had Mike Nolan and

427
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Speaker 3: Mike singletary, it was a disaster. They were chanting for

428
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Speaker 3: David Carr. So that that's very fickle, right, Certain physical

429
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 3: talents like Josh Allen probably would have succeeded no matter what. Right,

430
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Speaker 3: he's just physically too gifted. Even Herbert, even as down

431
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Speaker 3: years ago, I still see a lot there. Two was

432
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Speaker 3: a good example, kind of like Jared Goff, much less

433
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Speaker 3: physical attributes. When it's not going well, you're like, what

434
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Speaker 3: the hell is this? Good coaching, good offensive weaponry, good connection.

435
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Speaker 3: Go Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Two and Goff are very much about protection and coach.

437
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 1: Herbert has gone to the playoffs and has yet to

438
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Speaker 1: get even a remotely competent coach.

439
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Speaker 3: And I would take Jared Goff all day over to

440
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Speaker 3: it just on the simple fact he's bigger. I think

441
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Speaker 3: he just throws the better ball. And on the flip side,

442
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if you saw all those

443
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Speaker 3: numbers from Pennix, but you and I have talked about

444
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Speaker 3: this before, a lot of comparisons to to A and

445
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Speaker 3: then you see him run like a four or five five,

446
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Speaker 3: and he jumps thirty seven inches and I think Kobe

447
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: jumped thirty six. So I'm not comparing him as an

448
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Speaker 3: athlete to Kobe Bryant, but he's a really good athlete. Yeah.

449
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Speaker 3: I mean that's so I know, you don't see it

450
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Speaker 3: as much on film because he wasn't asked to play

451
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Speaker 3: that way they had, you know, I think they thought

452
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Speaker 3: they had the best offensive line in the country. Then

453
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Speaker 3: they met Michigan, but they had an excellent offensive line, right,

454
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Speaker 3: So he wasn't getting touched. I think he was only

455
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Speaker 3: sacked like what eleven times, It's like average in less

456
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Speaker 3: than one a game. But he clearly can move right.

457
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Speaker 3: So you could get a guy in some of these

458
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Speaker 3: Shanahan offenses or Sean Payton to get him on the

459
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Speaker 3: move a little bit. He has it in him. I

460
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Speaker 3: clearly his film as a pocket passer is pretty special.

461
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Speaker 3: Questions with injuries, that's scary. But I heard a podcast

462
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Speaker 3: probably within the last six months of Dubor talking about

463
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Speaker 3: when he first got to Deiana and they recruited him.

464
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Speaker 3: Was he was recruited as more of a dual threat guy,

465
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Speaker 3: and then he had the injuries and they just got

466
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Speaker 3: away from it. But he physically I was pretty That

467
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Speaker 3: was an eye opening experience to see those I would

468
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Speaker 3: have guessed he's like a four to eight guy and

469
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Speaker 3: not a great athlete, but he's not like Tua. Remember

470
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Speaker 3: he heard his hip his last year in college, so

471
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Speaker 3: he couldn't work out. He ain't running a four or five.

472
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Speaker 3: He ain't sniffing no it listen to was a pocket quarterback,

473
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Speaker 3: which I thought Penix was too. But you see these

474
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Speaker 3: athletic numbers, kind of like the CJ strout. Now he

475
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Speaker 3: did it more on film in that Georgia game. But

476
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Speaker 3: one thing we know about CJ pocket quarterback, but has

477
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Speaker 3: athletic attributes to kind of move around when shit hits

478
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Speaker 3: the fan, which in the NFL it inevitably does.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think JJ McCarthy only works if he goes

480
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Speaker 1: to like, let's say a Minnesota. I think that that's

481
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Speaker 1: a furnished apartment for a young quarterback, everything set up.

482
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Speaker 1: They don't have to pay rent for a year. Donald's

483
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Speaker 1: paying rent for a year. He'll take the hits and

484
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Speaker 1: the bruises. Then you step in about the giant Hennick, Oh,

485
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't like anybody to the Giants. I

486
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Speaker 1: don't like anybody right now to the Giants. So I

487
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Speaker 1: would say Pennix to my Miami to be the next

488
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Speaker 1: two Pennix to Seattle works. I think they're kind of

489
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Speaker 1: ready to roll his offensive coordinator. I think McCarthy and

490
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Speaker 1: Minnesota works.

491
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Speaker 3: I take ms Rams is a sleeper for him.

492
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Speaker 1: Well, the Rams a sleeper for a lot of people.

493
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Speaker 1: So they're one of those teams that has been very

494
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Speaker 1: successful without first round picks. This is their first first

495
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: round or in a long time, and they're at nineteen.

496
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Speaker 1: I could see the Rams sliding down if bow Knicks

497
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Speaker 1: is there and you start I've been in a war

498
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Speaker 1: room before you have, and you slide down and you're like, well,

499
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Speaker 1: the next four teams don't need quarterbacks. If it's you know,

500
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Speaker 1: at nineteen, you're getting into like Dallas May, but they

501
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Speaker 1: need some pieces. I could see the Rams going and

502
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Speaker 1: saying we're gonna take Bonnicks and he's gonna sit for

503
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Speaker 1: two years. I could totally see that happening. So I

504
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Speaker 1: think Bonnicks to me again, like a Penix, like a

505
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Speaker 1: JJ mcarthy, it's going to be the spot. But bone

506
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Speaker 1: Knicks may be the luckiest of all because the truth

507
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Speaker 1: is if he goes, and I think he probably will,

508
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Speaker 1: I think Denver is the last chance for him, then

509
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Speaker 1: there's going to be a long stretch of people that

510
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Speaker 1: aren't going to move up. Like if you start looking

511
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Speaker 1: at the teams that need quarterbacks, it's not a surprise.

512
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Speaker 1: They're mostly in the top twelve and thirteen. That's why

513
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Speaker 1: they're bad teams. Yeah, so I think bone Knicks. I

514
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Speaker 1: think the Rams would roll the dice on bon Nicks

515
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Speaker 1: because the stets in Bennett didn't work. Stafford feels like

516
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Speaker 1: he's heard at least once or twice a year that

517
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Speaker 1: one's interesting. So I want to talk about a move

518
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Speaker 1: that you're well aware of. I was reading Ian O'Connor

519
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Speaker 1: gave me, you know, several chapters of his book on

520
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I'll just tell everybody Ian is a relentless reporter.

521
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Speaker 1: You get background the first chapter on Aaron's family, which

522
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Speaker 1: is it's got a history World War two. It's just fascinating, fascinating,

523
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Speaker 1: and it's master's class storytelling. So I've read about four

524
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Speaker 1: or five chapters. I'm giving him a little blurb for

525
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Speaker 1: this first book. I could not put it down. I

526
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Speaker 1: flew through it. So the first year it was kind

527
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Speaker 1: of like, let's get friends of Aaron. Nathaniel Hackett, Alan Lazard,

528
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Speaker 1: Randall Cobb. This offseason for the Jets, it's been like,

529
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Speaker 1: let's just get some older players and let's go all

530
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Speaker 1: in Tyron Smith. So they get Hassan Reddick, who I

531
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Speaker 1: think is a very good big play pass rusher. He

532
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: tends to make his best plays in the biggest moment.

533
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Speaker 1: Eagle's got to get. You know, they're paying Jalen Hurts.

534
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Speaker 1: They got to move off some salary. So I think

535
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Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick has something in the tach maybe a little

536
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Speaker 1: bit of a von Miller here where there'll be moments

537
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: you'll be like, oh yeah, and then you'll be like

538
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: he's old and he's not in his prime. But I

539
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Speaker 1: do think it's interesting. The Hassan Reddick to me felt like,

540
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: oh shit, this Aaron Rodgers thing. It not only has

541
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Speaker 1: to work, it has to work by like October fifteenth

542
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: or otherwise. I think you start losing the owner the GM.

543
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: I think you start losing people with Aaron right. Like

544
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: so much of the off field stuff. The book will

545
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: come out with Ian O'Connor, and there's some parts that

546
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: you look at it and you're like, boy, Aaron's a

547
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: lot of work. So your take on the Reddick move

548
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: and kind of where the Jets are with this right?

549
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: Now? Did I read on the internet that Ian said

550
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: he worked for a long time and Aaron finally agreed

551
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: to sit down with him, so he got him for

552
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: a couple hours. Yeah.

553
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Ian now he's done the book on Belichick,

554
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: His Mike Skryzewsky book is God. It's good.

555
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: Belch is good. I listened to it, but it's good.

556
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so in the and I've only read like

557
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: five chapters, but I mean the first chapter, the storytelling

558
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: is insane. I don't even know how the hell you

559
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: O'Connor gets it. But where are the Jets with your right?

560
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Speaker 3: I think let's let's use Lebron and the Lakers for example.

561
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: If the NBA salary cap was a little easier maneuver

562
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: like the NFL this offseason, they would sign play Thompson

563
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: demartin road. They would sign every old guy who has

564
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: ever had any success in the NBA. They would do

565
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: it immediately. And I think that's what that used to

566
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: happen in the NBA a lot, right when I was

567
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: a kid, These older teams kind of get together at

568
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: the end of their prime. Happens a little bit in

569
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Speaker 3: the NFL, but you kind of fall off a cliff

570
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 3: so fa bad and guys can't kind of team up

571
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Speaker 3: together because usually one guy gets his money here, one

572
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: guy gets his money here. It does feel like they're great,

573
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Speaker 3: I mean, one they're clearly desperate. That's not even debatable.

574
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Speaker 3: My take last week on that story that came out

575
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Speaker 3: about SLA and Woody was like, unless you were standing there,

576
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: no one knows what the hell was going on. But

577
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: sometimes in life, perception becomes reality. And if that would

578
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Speaker 3: have been like John Lynch was yelling at Jed York,

579
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: he'd be like, no way right, Or Sean McVay was

580
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: arguing with Roger like I don't believe that. But when

581
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: it is the Jets, you're like, I could see that, right,

582
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: Because Woody Johnson's reputation is pretty well established, kind of

583
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: a crazy guy to work for, not and the organizations,

584
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: you know, win lost record kind of speaks for itself.

585
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: Everyone's entire job, like this whole group and era is

586
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: all on the line. And at one point in time,

587
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: well before Aaron, when they made that trade with Jamal Adams,

588
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: it looked like they had a bright, bright future. And

589
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: things change fast when you miss on the quarterback. They

590
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: really do, and they had to double down on the

591
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: situation because they missed on Zach Wilson made the Erran trade.

592
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Speaker 3: No one knew he would get hurt, but new Slash

593
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: thirty nine year old guys sometimes get hurt in sports, right, Yeah,

594
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: I hurt my back the other day working out. It

595
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: wouldn't have happened at thirty years old, but at thirty nine,

596
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: it still doesn't feel quite right. So it's it's not

597
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: weird at all. And I don't know. I mean, Mike

598
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: Williams seems like a great guy, awesome player when he

599
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: but he's always hurt, you know. The Reddick thing. The

600
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: Eagles aren't just in the business of getting rid of

601
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: talented guys like that's that one's a little weird. I

602
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: get their contractual situation there, but they just took the

603
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 3: Jets pass rusher who's way younger, and then they traded

604
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: him Reddick. Right, Who would you say is a better

605
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: run organization when it comes to picking players and trading

606
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: for guys, say the Eagles. So that that one, that's

607
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: kind of a weird transaction, even though the Jets had

608
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: nothing to do with Huff going over there he was

609
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: just a free agent. I just think most times listen,

610
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Speaker 3: I was with the Eagles of the Dream Team and

611
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: some of these Ronnie Brown's and Jason Babbins old guys,

612
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: you just age fast. In the NFL. It's you're not

613
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: a kicker or punter. You're you're asked to explode, change

614
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: direction and the moment that starts slipping, injuries happen, the

615
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: pressure that comes with New York. I I, unless Aaron

616
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Speaker 3: is playing at a top five level of quarterback, I

617
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: don't see this team having any chance in Hill. Yeah,

618
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: because there's too much noise around it. That's that's part

619
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Speaker 3: of it in the NFL. That's really hard. Look at

620
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 3: the Ravens like, there's not this year, once they got

621
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: the Lamar situation, figured out that there's just no noise,

622
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: they just played football. Even allions, they just played football,

623
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: no noise. Even the Packers this year. It was bump

624
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: because win loss records, but it was just like, oh,

625
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: they're just normal football team playing away. Yeah.

626
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Speaker 1: I was telling somebody the other day. I was having

627
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Speaker 1: a conversation with a athletic director in the country, and

628
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: this person called me a coach was leaving under their

629
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: watch a major coach, and the advice I said is,

630
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: and there's a little anxiety with that, you have to

631
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: hire a new coach. And one of the things I

632
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: said is, whenever there's a divorce, you just have to

633
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: realize that, you know, your wife could end up marrying

634
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: George Clooney. You have to if you're going to get

635
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: a divorce, think long and hard about it. It's going

636
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: to disrupt kids. It's going to disrupt your business. Like

637
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Speaker 1: if you get a divorce from a top employee, as

638
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: you own a company or you know your wife, you

639
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: and your wife split, you have to be comfortable with

640
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: that person succeeding. And I told the athletic director that

641
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: coach could go, you know, undefeated next year. When Farv left,

642
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: he had about two good years left. And then Farv's personality,

643
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of a gunslinger on and off the field,

644
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: got him in a little trouble. And then Aaron by

645
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: that time had established it. And when Aaron left, Green

646
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: Bay was sitting there thinking, yeah, for two years, we're

647
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to eat it. Peyton Manning leaves, the Cols

648
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: goes to Denver. You got to kind of eat it

649
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: for two years and be comfortable with it. But Andrew

650
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: Luck pretty quickly everybody went, oh, yeah, I get it.

651
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: Aaron pretty quickly with Farv, I get it. What's interesting,

652
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: I thought, Jordan Love by Thanksgiving of the first year,

653
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: it was like, and I really believe this is he

654
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: better than Aaron right now? He way more athletic.

655
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: Even him in the NFL that would obviously you factor

656
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: an age, but he was been Airon didn't play well

657
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: the year before for the Packers, and I and I sat.

658
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: There and I thought, this, that doesn't help Aaron. Like

659
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: it did help Aaron when when Farv kind of dovetailed,

660
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: It's like, we made the right move right and it

661
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: does help when when Peyton Manning got hurt in Denver,

662
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, Luck was the right move. Shit, Jordan

663
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: loves better right now. And I don't think that's a

664
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: hot take.

665
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: No. I don't have the Minnesota Vikings eight roster off

666
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: the top of my head, but I remember being pretty

667
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: good the one far of that year they had. They

668
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: had they were great. Adrian Peterson I think was young

669
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: on that team. They had multiple wifers, should have gone

670
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl. Yeah, the defense was good that roster.

671
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: I bet if we went player for player compared to

672
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: this Jets not even remotely the same. Obviously far have

673
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 3: had that one last throwback year. I had a d

674
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: M the other day that I was like, I hadn't

675
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 3: really thought about that. He's like everyone's mocking either a

676
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 3: wide receiver or the tight end to the Jets, right,

677
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: get a little more offensive firepower, especially someone young, and

678
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: they're like, Aaron doesn't like young players at that position.

679
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: He's got that hit. Tom Brady was a saying they

680
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: don't mess, They do not throw him the ball. So

681
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: you draft Rock Bauers or you draft Roman doone say, well,

682
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: if he doesn't, if they're not on the exact That's

683
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: why he likes Randall, cobp right, that's why he always

684
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: pounded the table for James Jones. The wide receivers he likes.

685
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: He really likes DeVante. He trusts them implicitly, young players.

686
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 3: It's a lot going on. So that's that's something to

687
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: keep an eye on who they end up drafting high

688
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 3: because if it is a skill guy and maybe you say, well,

689
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: they just signed Mike Williams, they don't need it as much. Well,

690
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 3: I don't know if Mike Williams the most dependable individual

691
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 3: going at that position. So I just think the Robert

692
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: solid thing. He's a really good guy, he's easy to

693
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: root for. But sometimes you just go to a non

694
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: organization like maybe it's just not it's in borderline impossible

695
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: there to win Right now with the way what he

696
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: is and the Johnson family, I'm not absolving like Roberts

697
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: some dynamic code so far. And it all gets back

698
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: to the Zach. I mean this, this Aaron story dates

699
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 3: back to the Rogers or the Zach Wilson bick because

700
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: if they had hit on that, now you could argue

701
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: that after Trevor Lawrence, they all, you know, are on

702
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: different teams, right, I think wood he came out and

703
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: said at the owners meetings, this is a great, you know,

704
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: tell sign of organization where it's like, what is this

705
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: guy saying if we can't trade him, because no one's

706
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: trading for his eight million dollars as a backup quarterback,

707
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: he will be on the team. It's like, will boy,

708
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: why wouldn't would he just go, hey, this is their job.

709
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: I stay out of it. That's what most owners do.

710
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: It's why most owners don't talk that often, right, They

711
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: just it just makes it more complicated. They don't really

712
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: have a choice. Of the owners meetings. They kind of

713
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: throw the local guys a bone, but for the most

714
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 3: part they never say anything because the moment they say something,

715
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 3: that's the headline. So yeah, I'm just I'm just betting

716
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: against the Jets. I really am.

717
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about this. John Lynch is

718
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: very liked. I covered him as a player, He's a

719
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: great guy's a broadcaster and as a GM. But it

720
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: is interesting now brock Perties obviously that goes on the tombstone.

721
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: You know, he got him his seventh. But I was

722
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: thinking about this the other day, is that San Francis

723
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: the Niners are fascinating, missed on Trey Lance, missed on

724
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: Gray the SMU receiver, They've missed on two third round

725
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: running backs. Is that Kyle tends to.

726
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: May have not drafted well recently at all.

727
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: And it's like Kyle makes a lot of stuff work.

728
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about you on this if I

729
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: was now less Sneed last year hit on multiple defensive players,

730
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, multiple guys. Then he hits on Pooka and

731
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: then the offensive lineman at TCU. We knew was going

732
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: to be good. But I was thinking about this in

733
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. So Ryan Poles played offense, but he's got

734
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: a defensive coach, So you can argue Ryan knows offensive

735
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: personnel better. You know he should draft offensive lineman. He

736
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: was one, And I thought to myself, Lynch has had

737
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: so many misses and Shanahan makes virtually everything work offensively.

738
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: That do you have every situations in the NFL where

739
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: a GM like I think to myself, I'm a GM,

740
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: what is my coach's specialty. I'm going to hit on

741
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: a much higher percentage of my draft picks like McVeigh

742
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: and running backs. McVeigh in receiver he makes two two

743
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: at well work now he was a bust. McVeigh has

744
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: saved a lot of Less needs misses. Now Less hasn't

745
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: had a ton of them, but he's had a couple

746
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: of them. When you don't have first round picks and

747
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: a second round is a miss Logan Bruss Wisconsin guard

748
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: to tow at well, you're not getting players to the

749
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: third round. Do you think in the NFL that there

750
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: are gms that literally to elevate their stature or protect

751
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: their job that they are drafting. I'm sure Bets based

752
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: on the coach.

753
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: I think the good teams don't think like that. I

754
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: mean John was rich well before he signed up to

755
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 3: be the Niner GM, and now he's probably a top

756
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: two or three high paid GM. He's got multiple contract extensions.

757
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: I don't think he's worried about that crap at all.

758
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 3: I think sometimes when you come up maybe less early

759
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: on in his career, I mean, this was his life,

760
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: right A scout or a guy like that, they know

761
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: this is their one shot. I mean, if John had

762
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 3: failed at it, he'd go right back to broadcasting. And

763
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 3: like I said, he was already a multimillionaire as a player.

764
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: I think sometimes I always defended this because I saw

765
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: it with Trent balky Is when they had a couple

766
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: of years of building the great Niner team before Harbaugh

767
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: got there, and he mccluwan was kind of the GM,

768
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: but he was his right hand guy. It is a

769
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 3: lot easier to draft when you suck, because you don't

770
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: just draft if I had the fourth pick. Look at

771
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: the Rams last year. I know they didn't have their

772
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: first round pick right because Detroit had it, but they

773
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: had a high pick in every round after that. And

774
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: when you win, like they have this year, or the

775
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: Niners or the Ravens. You're picking at the end of

776
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: the round. So the pressure on that pick, your pool

777
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: of picking people is just smaller. Right, It'd be like

778
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: any company trying to hire a group of twenty people. Well,

779
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: you can't get the pool of the top twenty people.

780
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: What if I removed fourteen of those people and the

781
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 3: people that other companies in your industry thought were the best,

782
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 3: so you only have the pool of six. It just

783
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: makes it more difficult. And the Niners, because of the

784
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: Trey Lance trade, obviously didn't have high picks, and then

785
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: they weren't picking to the second and third round. I

786
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: mean a lot of their picks have come with these

787
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 3: like diversity hires. They've gotten these comp picks and they've

788
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: they've whiffed on a lot. And sometimes I think the

789
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: kin Law example is good. Their first ever draft pick,

790
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 3: they took Solomon Thomas, didn't work, didn't care. But he's

791
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: still in the NFL. Right, He's just a solid player.

792
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: He probably should have been like a second or third

793
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: round pick, but he was drafted. But a lot of

794
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: it was super high character, super hard worker, and why

795
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: he is still gonna be like he's gonna have a

796
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: ten year career. But it was there wasn't a high ceiling.

797
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: Guy Kin lost the opposite a lot of questions, but

798
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: holy shit, you see him, You see the flashes, and

799
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: then they whiffed on both and you start kind of

800
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 3: Nick Bosa, you my mom, my neighbor. Anyone can pick that.

801
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: The other picks are difficult. So and your previous missus

802
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: impact and your roster. Right, it was a lot harder

803
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: to make the Rams three or four years ago. It

804
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: was difficult. It's why they could justify We'll get rid

805
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: of a first round pick, get Jalen Ramsey, get who

806
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: von Miller, Like we don't have room on the roster.

807
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: Well this year they had a ton of room. They

808
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: needed those picks right now, the forty nine ers, these

809
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: last it's been difficult. It hasn't helped. And I think

810
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: you saw the depth in the Super Bowl. Chiefs just

811
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: had more depth. Well the Chiefs, well, the Niners gave

812
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: away first round picks. The Chiefs actually inherited some because

813
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: they got rid of Tyreek Hill, so they just had

814
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 3: and they hit on more picks. So that depth. It

815
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: could just be a player here or two Obviously it

816
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: helps having Patrick Mahomes, but I think that you obviously.

817
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: The other thing is Kyle's the ball us. You know.

818
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: I think a lot of these organizations the head coach

819
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: once he's if he wants to like, I want this

820
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: guy now they have a good relationship, just like a

821
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: lot of teams with powerful head coaches. But the gms

822
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: will tell you off the record, I don't always get

823
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: to do what I want to do. So you just

824
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: got to capitulate to your coaching staff. And it's not

825
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: even just the head coach, it's the assistance the assistants have.

826
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: Takes Colin and be like if everyone had a podcast

827
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: in the coaching staff, well, their podcast gets listened to

828
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: by the head coach, not the personnel people. So he's like, oh, oh,

829
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 3: my guy wants this, and you just kind of trust

830
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: him a little bit more than maybe your area scout

831
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: or your college director that they have. That's an underrated

832
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: part about the NFL is the assistant coach's impact on

833
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: a draft because they streamline right to the headman. If

834
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: they like a guy through the head coach, you want that.

835
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: You want your assistant coach to like them and believe

836
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 3: in them. Especially when you have a high level of

837
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 3: trust in that assistant. So that's that's where things can

838
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: get a little walky right around this time, really these

839
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: next three weeks or where a lot of the boards

840
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 3: getting set, assistant coaches are flying in with takes out

841
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: of left field. You know, all of a sudden, we

842
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 3: had a guy in the fifth round and he thinks

843
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 3: we should take him in the top fifty. I mean

844
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: because he knows his dad, or he loved him as

845
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: a player, or he's tight, he's a college teammate of

846
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: the guy's position coach at Alabama or USC. This is

847
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: when things start getting really weird, and most teams their

848
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: meetings start this week, So buckle up, personnel people like you.

849
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Speaker 1: I love the draft forever, but you are a professional scout.

850
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: I always feel there's like about two players per draft

851
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: that can't miss. So take out quarterbacks. Take quarterbacks out

852
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: because they are very dependent on where they land. But

853
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: a guy can rush the passer or he can't. A

854
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: guy can catch or he can't. This draft does feel

855
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: like to me, it's got about five guys. I don't

856
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: see Marvin Harrison Junior missing. I think he's just I

857
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: don't think brock Bowers is missing Joe Alt those guys

858
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: jump out to me. Is the kid at Oregon State,

859
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: the right tackle who, like you can't find bad tape

860
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: on him. It does feel like this draft, But like

861
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: the there are players in this draft. I think sometimes

862
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: receivers can be very dependent on the environment and the quarterback.

863
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks are very dependent on several people, including the play caller.

864
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: But if I said to you two guys in the

865
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: draft as a former scout, because I always thought Patrick

866
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: willis the ole miss linebacker. I was told by a

867
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: GM thirty two teams he'd worked for. I was told

868
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchison out of Michigan, Like that's going to work.

869
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of somebody else, Calvin Johnson, Gerald,

870
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. I mean, right, they're gonna work. Is give

871
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: me the two guys here. Let's say they go to

872
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: a lousy situation. You cannot see failing.

873
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: Well. I don't see how it's possible for a kid

874
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: from Napa, California to go to the best program in

875
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: the country at Georgia and brock Bauers, I would say

876
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: pretty immediately as a freshman in the definitely the most

877
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: athletic conference in the country, was one of their best players,

878
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 3: and by year two or three, he's arguably the best

879
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 3: player in the country pound for pound, as.

880
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: Good as any most productive tight end I've ever seen

881
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: in college.

882
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: So you get this guy that goes It would have

883
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: been easy for a West Coast guy go to Oregon,

884
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: go to USC even in Oklahoma or Texas.

885
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 4: Not go.

886
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: He went all the way to where the pressure was

887
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: brightest and dominated. I don't see, and I know there's comparison,

888
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: doesn't really block well. The game's changed a lot. We

889
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: have a lot more of these hybrid tight ends, a

890
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: lot more of the Travis Kelce style. He's very like

891
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: any receiver dependent on a quarterback to throwing the ball, obviously,

892
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: but how's he not going to be a good NFL pro?

893
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: I saw some of his measurables. They put right next

894
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: to laporta very similar size, a little harder to I

895
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 3: think sometimes those big ten tight ends, because you're like, well,

896
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: who's the you know, defenders he playing against. There's no debate.

897
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: Think about the guys he went and practiced against Colin.

898
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: If I was a scout, I wouldn't even need to

899
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: watch game table be like, can I just get your

900
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: Georgia practice tape from a.

901
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 4: Year ago, your entire draft when the you know, eleven

902
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 4: guys on defense? What uh so I think they had

903
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 4: eighteen guys on defense go over a two year span.

904
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: I can't imagine Kirby's like, yeah, we couldn't cover him

905
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 4: there either, So I don't see how it's possible.

906
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: I was texting about sometimes height at tackle, like there's

907
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: six six, like a Trent Williams, Jason Peters. I think, uh,

908
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: Lane Johnson sixt' five, like six ' eight, six ' nine,

909
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: can get a little tall because von Miller or Nick

910
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 3: Bosted these guys where they are to the ground, it's

911
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 3: just hard to touch them. But from what I've heard

912
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: about Joe All, it's just his athleticism. I just don't

913
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 3: see how he's not gonna be good now. The one

914
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 3: thing with him, because I was texting, I was like,

915
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: should the Chargers if they get stuck, just take them.

916
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: They're like, well, you already at the left tackle. Just

917
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: get a touchdown guy for Herbert. You can get a

918
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: right tackle maybe in the second round. You've already got

919
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 3: that position. You don't need to force it. If you

920
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: do get stuck there. Just take whoever you think the

921
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: best skilled guy is. And there are some talented guys,

922
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: and most people believe the three wide receivers, and you

923
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: and I talked about I saw James Jones, which I

924
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 3: understand a lot of the players are like, God, it's bullshit.

925
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison isn't doing anything when all the other guys

926
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: worked out, all the quarterbacks, all the wide receivers. I

927
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: heard neighbors at the LSU pro day, which I don't

928
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: know if you saw some pictures I think was a

929
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 3: zoo of NFL people. Yeah, it was like, Okay, Marvin

930
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: wats this because he you know, he thinks he's gonna

931
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: go number one. I defend Marvin in the sense he's

932
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 3: everything he's doing is because his dad's telling him. And

933
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: when your dad's in the Hall of Fame, if he

934
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: tells you jump, you say how high? So it's like,

935
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: I don't believe it's his own choice. I'm not saying

936
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: he's not agreeing to it, But what's he supposed to do?

937
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 3: Tell his dad? He doesn't know what he's talking about,

938
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: But that that neighbors Connie ran a foe. He's a

939
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: fantastic tape. I mean dominated the SEC ran a four

940
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 3: to three five and jump forty two inches. I mean

941
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: pretty rare athletes. So you know, it's hard. I don't

942
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: know what to gauge on Harbaugh. I think I said

943
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: you and I talked about this last week about the

944
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 3: wide receivers, and someone hit me up, like the Ravens

945
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: have taken wide receivers over the years. Yeah, in the

946
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: twenties when they're good, when they've drafted high to Loodinada.

947
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: It's Ronnie Stanley now that I don't know if that

948
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: guy's really here, right. There's not a great pass rusher

949
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: in this the Bama guy, I don't think he's viewed

950
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: as a top ten player. Like we talked about, they

951
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 3: don't need a left hackle. You could, I guess, take

952
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: the Oregon State guy. There probably be a little rich,

953
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: but I don't know. You know, if Harbaugh didn't take

954
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison. He's seen him back to back years, right

955
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 3: and seeing him on crossfilm for three years at Michigan,

956
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: that'd be a little interesting, neighbors is from what you know.

957
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 3: He's had some incidents over the years, but his talent,

958
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: I think they feel he's pretty buttoned up right now.

959
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: Rome honestly feels kind of like a Harbaugh guy. But

960
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think the Chargers are fascinating, But yeah,

961
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 3: I would go Brock Bowers. I don't see how he's

962
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: not if you got, if you gave him, if you

963
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: just put him on the Chargers, which I don't think

964
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: you know that, he would immediately make like nine ten

965
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: you know, ish million dollars in a tight end. The

966
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: franchise tags twelve. So ideally taking a tight end that high,

967
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: you're already paying him premium money. But I think he'd

968
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: be a premium player immediately. I think he would dominate.

969
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 3: If you told me brought Bauers on the Chargers next year,

970
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 3: I'd be like, he catches eighty eight.

971
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: Balls when you nine touchdowns. I mean, here's the other thing.

972
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Letting Gerald Everett go to the Bears. They don't have

973
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're they're well below average in the

974
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: NFL at tight end and so and Herbert, I mean,

975
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: can you imagine him having a six to six target,

976
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: you know, because he was so he's been so effective

977
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. I mean, so he's

978
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: one of those guys that will throw guys open. A

979
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: lot of young quarterbacks, don't he throw? He throws young

980
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: guys open. All right, so you know we kind of

981
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: get ready.

982
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 3: You know, I was.

983
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: It's interesting I as I get older, you know, I

984
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 1: used to hate to take time off. I just didn't

985
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: like to do it. Maybe it was some insecurity. But

986
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: as I've gotten older, I like to travel with my kids.

987
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: I like to travel with my wife. And so I

988
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: was talking to my son today about going. We went

989
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: to Iceland last year. It had an absolute ball. He

990
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: doesn't like heat. He likes cold. So we're gonna go

991
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: to Ireland here to a couple of years, maybe this year,

992
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: and in the summer. You know, I'm kind of fighting

993
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: to get my staff time off, and I'm I'm gonna

994
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: get some time off. I love to go to the

995
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: Northeast in the summer, which is Nantucket. I've been to

996
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: the Hamptons twice, but it's not my favorite. I have

997
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: a place in Rhode Island. So if I said to

998
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: you John, because you live in Arizona and it's hot,

999
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: I said, okay, you can take your beautiful girlfriend. You

1000
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: get ten days. It's paid. And everybody now we're moving

1001
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: into spring. You know, golf vacations. I'm gonna go. I'm

1002
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: not gonna play golf in Ireland. I'm gonna go to

1003
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: the castles and Dublin, that kind of stuff. You and

1004
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: your girlfriend ten days, all expenses paid. Where is your

1005
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: summer vacation.

1006
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: Well, she's on me right now, Colin, because I think

1007
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 3: I can relate to your younger self. I could just

1008
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 3: we got this thing rolling, We got momentum. You know,

1009
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: I'm not a big take things off. I don't like

1010
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: being away now obviously, even in the month of July

1011
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: for football it slows down. But I could find a

1012
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: way to do podcasts. She likes to travel a lot,

1013
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 3: and you know that's one area we but it had

1014
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: it's come working now. I can also take this with me,

1015
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: so I don't really have it. This isn't nineteen ninety seven.

1016
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: I don't have an excuse if I want to. We

1017
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: looked yesterday pretty closely at Costa Rica.

1018
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: Oh it's nice.

1019
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: It looks pretty beautiful. She wants to go somewhere to

1020
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: the beach her mom. A couple of years ago, her

1021
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 3: dad had passed and fine, she bought a condo in Tahoe,

1022
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: so we can go up there. But she, you know,

1023
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: we've both been going to Tahoe most of our life,

1024
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: which is awesome in the summer, but something that we

1025
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 3: haven't done. We looked a little at the Bahamas. I've

1026
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: never been to either. Hell, I've never even been to Cabbo.

1027
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 3: But she kind of on me about Costa Rica. So

1028
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: we looked pretty closely yesterday, and that feels like where

1029
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 3: we might end up sometime in July.

1030
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. My dad later in his life went

1031
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: to Russia and he went to Egypt, and so my dad,

1032
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's a different way to travel back then.

1033
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: But it is weird when you look back at your

1034
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: parents and how they you become a hopefully a you know,

1035
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: a better version of your parents, or you know, a

1036
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: more aware version of your parents. I mean, there's we're

1037
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: all a little self consumed now just because of social media.

1038
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: But it's my dad traveled a lot, and I always

1039
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 1: enjoyed traveling on my turns, but I've I've I've gotten

1040
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: a travel bug here. Maybe it's because my wife is

1041
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: such a great travel partner. She's funny, she loves food.

1042
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: Her son's a chef, so he gives us all the

1043
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: places to eat. But I got to tell you, my

1044
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: son chose Iceland. A year ago. I said, choose anywhere

1045
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: in the world we're going to go in May. He

1046
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: chose Iceland. I had so much damn fun. And by

1047
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: the way, I was cold the entire vacation. Volcanos waterfalls.

1048
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: He and I like, we talk about it, like every

1049
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: third time we talked, We're like, God, I miss Iceland.

1050
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: So I think I'm gonna go to Iceland for a

1051
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: day or two, that into Ireland and that'll be it.

1052
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: My dad and his dad was a big fly fisherman,

1053
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: loved to fly fish, yeah, And when I was a kid,

1054
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 3: his dad used to take him for about ten to

1055
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: fifteen days to New Zealand and they did my entire

1056
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: life up until my grandpa got really old and wasn't

1057
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: able to do it. And they My grandpa had taught

1058
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: at cal and he was an academic, but he was

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00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 3: a big I don't even know how he would fit

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00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: in nowadays, big hunter and fishermen, big outdoorsmen. And he

1061
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: befriended like one of the main guides there. So these

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00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: guys would always take care of them. And when I

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00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 3: was twelve years old. You know, this was a different

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00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: my dad would It's like the family went just those

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00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 3: two wins and I got to go in sixth grade

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00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: fly to New Zealand by my and I still have

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Speaker 3: a pictures. I mean it was and I told him,

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00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 3: I said, bungee jumping was invented there, the first place

1069
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 3: bungee jumping ever happened. So I was like, Dad, I'll

1070
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Speaker 3: do it. Let's drive there. So he rented a car.

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00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 3: We had to drive three hours. I forget the city

1072
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: we were. Maybe it was in Auckland. And when I

1073
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 3: got there, you had to be thirteen. You had to

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Speaker 3: sign a waiver. And you know, this is in the nineties.

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00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 3: There's not like IDs or anything. And I was like,

1076
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. And then we kind of walk

1077
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: and we get to the spot where I'm going to

1078
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: do I'm like, I'm twelve years old. I'm twelve years old.

1079
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: I can't do it, and I ran away. It was

1080
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 3: but the it's one of the most it's got to

1081
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 3: be one of the most beautiful places in the world.

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00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: I mean Jurassic Park, you know film there. It's just

1083
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 3: it's if you like the outdoors, there's not much to

1084
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 3: do that I remember. I mean it's pretty mellow. Yeah.

1085
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say island vibes because it can be a

1086
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: little colder, but it's just it's a mellow just absolutely

1087
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: go at least in my experience, it's why he liked

1088
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: going there. So it's a long trap. I mean, you're

1089
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: coming from California. It's I think it's like seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Hours years ago. I was I had an Australian bug,

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00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: and I remember asking Lachlan Murdoch, Rupert's son who now

1092
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: runs Fox About. I think he invited me either to

1093
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: a fight or to a party at his house, and

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00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I've always wanted to go there.

1095
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: He goes, you live in Manhattan Beach. It's the same thing.

1096
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: He goes, It's the same weather.

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00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: He goes.

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00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's a bigger city. He goes, there's a

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00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: million places to go. He goes, I love Australia, it's amazing.

1100
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: But he goes, Manhattan Beach is like sixty five seventy

1101
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: percent of it. And I was like, all right, that's

1102
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Speaker 1: a guy that's traveled everywhere in the world. I will

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00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: tell you, have you done Italy yet.

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Speaker 3: I did it? When I was in my early twenties.

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00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, I did Chingatare, I did Rome. It's a

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Speaker 3: powerful place. Rome was one. Rome was really powerful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Florence, Rome, Yeah, sicily powerful is a great one.

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Speaker 3: I would go. I would go back there again, and

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Speaker 3: I will in a heartbeat. I thought that was. I

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Speaker 3: did Spain. I'm not Spain wasn't much for hos partying

1111
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: and it was cool for that. I wouldn't need to

1112
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 3: go back. I would. I could move to Italy. It

1113
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: feels like I mean, it's well, it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I told my wife. I said I would have And

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00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: I can be a little impulsive on stuff like this,

1116
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: but I said, I would have no problem in retirement

1117
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: going and living in Italy, for I'd want to be

1118
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: out of there by like June fifteenth. They don't have

1119
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Speaker 1: air conditioning as well.

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Speaker 3: Swampy. It's swampy.

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Speaker 1: And I said, but if you told me mid February

1122
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: to mid June whenever I retire, and I'm not retiring late,

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not working until I'm seventy five,

1124
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Speaker 1: I said, I'd have no problem. Florence is a walking city.

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Speaker 1: I lost seven pounds in Florence and all I did

1126
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: was eat pasta and pizza.

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Speaker 3: Well you're you're always on your feet, that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: And you go to Europe and you go, god, I'm

1129
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: eating a lot and you feel lighter. That's their motive.

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00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 3: I mean we never or go anywhere without hopping in

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00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 3: a car. Also, they're started walking at all costs.

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Speaker 1: Their food doesn't have the preservatives we are, So that's true,

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Speaker 1: much cleaner, all right. John Middlecoff, former NFL scout, Go

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Speaker 1: lows Is Golf Podcast three and out the Football podcast,

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Speaker 1: Happy Easter. Hope you had a great one and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk next week.

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Speaker 3: Buddy, Happy Easter calling, talk to you soon.

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