1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: I got a brother. All right. Well, thank you so 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: much Andy for joining me today. I'm really excited to 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: have this conversation with you, Joe. Thanks for having me, buddy. 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm really thrilled to be here. I was very happy 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: to get the invite and been looking forward to it, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: So thanks for having me. Absolutely, I am. We should 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: have done this a long time ago. We've known each 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: other for a while now, and I'm glad we finally 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: got the opportunity here. The first I just wanted to 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: kind of lead in with this story because I think 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: it's funny. The first time I was introduced to you 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: was your dad after he had watched my YouTube video 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: about the carnivore diet, and so I just thought that 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: was kind of funny. I was curious if he was 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: if he's still doing that, or I had kept the weight. 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: He kept the weight off. I think you know he's 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy that he could literally eat 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: a chicken leg for breakfast, for lunch and for dinner, 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: and a steak for a snack, So the carnivore diet 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: wasn't a problem for him. But I think that was 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: kind of a fad for him. I think he was 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: more more impressed with your transformation, your story, the way 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: you communicated it, and the fact that he reached out 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: to you and you responded in an in a world 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: that is so impersonal. I think he was really impressed 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: by that. And you know, something that's been one of 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: the keys to my success too, is is you know, 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: we're not your traditional company that is online and impersonal. 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Weave for thirty three years have been all about relationships 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: and when you're watching someone on YouTube, you're impressed with 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: their presentation and their story and they reply to you. 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: I think he was really taken back by that. So 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: that's that's how he kind of I think looked at 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: it and and uh had me reach out to you 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: at the same time. And I will be happy to 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: admit that you actually got back to me too, So 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, kudos to you for that. No, that's great. 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: I was glad to meet you and get introduced to 39 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: you your business. Like you mentioned when I first heard, 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, before we kind of get into the topic 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: of today, I just it's so impressive when I first 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: heard that, with how long you guys have been doing 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: business and the lack of customer complaints, it's just unheard of. 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah, we started on a Wing and 45 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: a Prayer thirty three years ago. My father's middle name 46 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: is Miles, and his best friend who lent US sixty 47 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in nineteen eighty nine, his middle name was Franklin. 48 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: And in a one room office, the most unlikely cast 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: of characters to succeed, and we did. We recently eclipsed 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: eight billion in sales. We have never had a material 51 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: customer complaint. We are one of only twenty seven us 52 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: MINT authorized resellers in the world, and Honor were very, 53 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: very proud of and even though I moved to Florida 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, where I have had 55 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: a sad Light office for about eleven years, we left 56 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: our corporate entity in the state of Minnesota. It's the 57 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: only state in America that regulates what is a federally 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: nonregulated industry. So we're very proud of our reputation of 59 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: our us MINT accreditation, but the state of Minnesota doesn't care, 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: and we have to be licensed, we have to be bonded, 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: and we have to be background checked and every single year. 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: As a result, in the majority of the companies in 63 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: America won't do business in the state of Minnesota because 64 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: of this. We embrace it. It holds us to a 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: higher standard. So yeah, it's it's been a great run. 66 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: And I look back and pinch myself that I am 67 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: where I am, starting from literally nothing as a nineteen 68 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: year old kid, and here we are. Yeah, I love 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: that story. And getting into kind of what is going 70 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: on today in the business, I mean, this is kind 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: of a crazy time. So just for some context, within 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, obviously right now, like banks 73 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: are collapsing, bailouts are happening for depositors. Before that, we 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: saw there was one of the might be one of 75 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: the largest scandals in the uh you know, the golden 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: and silver industry in a very long time, with the 77 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: person Mint deluding their gold um and a few years 78 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: ago this was I don't I think it was twenty 79 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: fifteen or so. UM China had been China had been 80 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: shipping out. I think it was tungsten uh that was 81 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: that had gold leaf on it as gold bars. So 82 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: this is an industry that right now it's kind of 83 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 1: kind of choppy. It's been hit with scandals, but also 84 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: people are piling in because it's not somebody else's liability, 85 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: as long as it's actually real gold. So what's what's 86 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: going on right now? Tell us about the give us 87 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: to the inside scoop. Yeah, well, I mean the industry 88 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: just like anything, just like a relationship, it's a foundation 89 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: of trust. And if you betrayed that trust. Even in 90 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: the the case of the Perth min and I would 91 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: argue that, you know, they kind of got the raw 92 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: end on this one. They've been beaten up a lot 93 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years for various reasons. But 94 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: in this case, the bars never did drop below four 95 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: nine fine pure, but they did have too much silver 96 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: in them for the Shanghai Exchange standards. But I think 97 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: it fits part and parcel with this industry, and this 98 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 1: industry certainly has had somewhat of a checkered pass. There's 99 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: been in the last six or seven years. There was 100 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, north A two hundred million dollars stolen by companies, 101 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: always the online cheap companies who end up stealing money. 102 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: It was tolving, it was bully undirect, it was Northwest 103 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: Territorial meant big big companies amongst others. That kind of 104 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: put a stain on this industry. I think it's a 105 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: shame and it's a stigma that we've had to fight 106 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: for a very long time, because when I look when 107 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: I started in this industry as a basically a twenty 108 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: year old kid, it was there was one rule my 109 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: dad said to me, in one rule only, he said, 110 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, I can deal with that starting a company. 111 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: What's that rule, Dad? He says, you need to buy 112 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: something every two weeks. I said, okay, if that's the 113 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: only rule, I'm down with that. And for thirty three years, 114 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: every two weeks I have purchased something. I have never 115 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: missed a two week period. I've honored my promise to 116 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: my father, even though I owned the company and half 117 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: for two decades. He won't fire me anymore. But I 118 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: made that promise and I've kept it, and it's the best, 119 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: the best gift he's ever given me, the ability to 120 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: save and to pay myself first. And when I look 121 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: at gold and silver, it means so much to me. 122 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: It's not an investment. It's wealth, wealth that I hope 123 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: I never need to use, and if so, I'm darn 124 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: glad I have it. If not, I give it to 125 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: my kids. And so when we have to continually see 126 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: these negative worries about fraud or about in this case, 127 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: they called it doping of gold or whatnot. Yeah, it's 128 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: it's bother some. I do think it's these These are 129 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: few and far between, but I think gold and silver 130 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: are so very, very very important, and oftentimes the only 131 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: media coverage we hear of is of negative stories or 132 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: a negative connotation, and I wish it weren't that way, 133 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: because I think it really is very important nowadays to 134 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: look at gold, and as you mentioned, it is one 135 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: of the only assets that is not someone else's liability 136 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: simultaneously anyway someone else's liability, and I think in a 137 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: world of counterparty risk, a world of contagion, it's never 138 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: been more important to look at gold and silver, I think, 139 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: for the qualities that they they exude, and in particular 140 00:07:52,800 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 1: the lack of or the complete dismissal of counterparty risk. Well, so, okay, 141 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: so a couple of questions about all that. Number One, 142 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: when you say buy something every two weeks, that's personal 143 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: that that's not the correct That was just his way 144 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: of saying to me, you know, we come from nothing, Joe. 145 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: My parents sold their life insurance policies and borrowed sixty 146 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: thousand dollars from the guy who helped that's Franklin, the 147 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: Franklin and Miles Franklin, and he said, you're not going 148 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: to make the same mistakes that I made. If nothing, 149 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: you will learn how to save. And it truly was 150 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: the best gift that he's ever given me, the ability 151 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: to pay myself first, the understanding that if you don't, 152 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: you wake up one day and you're fifty two years old, 153 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: like I am, in wonder where the hell at all 154 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: the time go? And if you don't pay yourself first, 155 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: if you don't find a way to get off that wheel, 156 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: you never will will. And everyone who I've ever hired, ironically, 157 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: one of the things that's need about our companies, we 158 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: all the people who work for me go back literally 159 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: to childhood. And there's twelve or thirteen of us that 160 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: I've been friends with since elementary school, little league, junior 161 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: high school, high school, and college. And that's one of 162 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: the requisites. You're going to come work for me, You're 163 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: going to buy something for yourself every two weeks. And 164 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: they all have thanked me up and down, because it's 165 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: really easy to not save and to not pay yourself first, 166 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: and one of the neat things about gold and silver 167 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: is that takes a little bit of a modicum of 168 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: effort to liquidate it, to sell it, and having it 169 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: put away often is one of the best ways to 170 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: preserve your funds because it just disappears and you forget 171 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: about it. And I don't know. This systematic accrual every 172 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: two weeks honestly has been a godsend to me and 173 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: my family, and someday it'll be my kids. And I 174 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: think that if I can impress that upon anyone, I 175 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: will tell you it is one of the keys to 176 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: my peace of mind. I think you're touching on something 177 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: that is really widely misunderstood and is the reason why 178 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: so many people stay poor because a lot of people 179 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, people that I've known, you know. The data 180 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: backs us up as well. People will try and implement 181 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: good financial habits. One of them usually the first one. 182 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: If it's not getting out of debt, it's going to 183 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: be trying to save and just as a you know, 184 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: an extreme example, you look back at the last three years. 185 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: Let's say three years ago, somebody put ten grand in 186 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: a bank account to save it for a rainy day, 187 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: and let's say, back then, that would have been able 188 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: to last them two or three months for their expenses. 189 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Today that will only last them, you know, maybe one 190 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: to two months because expenses have gone up. And so 191 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: for the last hundred years, our monetary system has turned 192 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: saving into losing. And so I really like that you're 193 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: using the same language, but you're talking about gold and silver, 194 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: which is different than saving in fiat currency, which loses 195 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: its purchasing Yeah, I mean I saw great, a great, 196 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: great statement. They said, what if Elon Musk got up 197 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: on a stage and set a goal of tesla as 198 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: to lose two percent per year. Well, you know that's 199 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: what the Fed says, the mandate is, and you know, 200 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: you can see they're having a hard time doing that. 201 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: But you know, if you're losing two percent per year 202 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: using the rule of seventy seconds every thirty six years, 203 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: your currency has had and so you know, if you 204 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: go back and look at the GI life insurance bill 205 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: after World War Two, it was ten thousand dollars. When 206 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: my father graduated high school, i mean college in nineteen 207 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: sixty three, his goal was to have a job that 208 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: paid him ten thousand dollars a year. A brand new 209 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: Corvette in nineteen seventy four or five was about six 210 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. So when you talk about the value, the 211 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: precipitous decline, the insidious decline of dollar bills, it's interesting. 212 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that people complain about 213 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: gold is that it doesn't pay a coupon. Well, first 214 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: and foremost, in a in a negative interest rate environment 215 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: that we see right now, it's sure beats the heck 216 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: out of negative three percent compounding on a ten year 217 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: treasury when factored against inflation. I'll take gold paying no 218 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: interest any day. But you can go back to nineteen 219 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: sixty and I often I use this example before, where 220 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: the average price of a house in nineteen sixty was 221 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand dollars and gold was priced at thirty nine 222 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: bucks an ounce, And if you do the math, that 223 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: works out to like four hundred and thirty five ounces 224 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: something in that neighbor. I'm not doing the math here 225 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: right now, and you know, so if you had four 226 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five gold crew grands. In fact, let 227 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: me just do it to make it sure. The Census 228 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: Bureau told us a house was almost exactly seventeen thousand dollars. 229 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: It's four hundred and thirty five ounces. So if you 230 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: had four hundred and thirty five crew grands in nineteen 231 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: sixty and said should we pay for our house? You 232 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: say to your wife with the gold that we were 233 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: left by Grandpa IRV and you decide no, you know, 234 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: let's stick it under our mattress instead, and where it 235 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: earns nothing but dust for the last sixty two years. Well, 236 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: the average price of a house right now is let's 237 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: call it, four hundred thousand dollars, and gold is eighteen 238 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: nineteen hundred dollars. So those four hundred and thirty five 239 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: ounces right now, which is are nothing but dust carried 240 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: no interest whatsoever, is now worth eight hundred and twenty 241 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars. It buys you two houses, whereas the 242 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: sixteen thousand dollars doesn't even or seventeen thousand dollars that 243 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: it was worth back then doesn't even buy you, you know, 244 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: the furnishings in your house, a couple of couches and 245 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: a TV, and you're already past seventeen grand. The point 246 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: of it is is that gold is the barometer by 247 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: which the value of the currency is measured. It's not 248 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: gold that has gone up. It's the value of the 249 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: currency that has gone down. And it happens very slowly 250 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: with inflation, little by little by little. And of course, 251 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: so you could argue we are on a path right 252 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: now to much greater inflation, where prices are going to 253 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: start to increase much much more. But the idea is, 254 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: even if you go back to you know, you go 255 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: back to nineteen thirty three, if your grandfather had two boxes. 256 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: One box had twenty dollar bills in it, twenty Federal 257 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: Reserve notes, and the other box had twenty dollar gold pieces, 258 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: which are basically an ounce of gold ten thousand dollars 259 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: left for you know, you in two boxes. That ten 260 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: thousand dollars is worth squat, but the ten thousand dollars 261 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: or five hundred ounces of gold is worth one million dollars. Basically, 262 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: the point I'm getting at is that it is the 263 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: value of the paper fiat currency backed by nothing, that 264 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: continues to lose value. And while gold won't make you wealthy, 265 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: it is wealth, and if you own enough of it, 266 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: you will be wealthy. But it is something that I 267 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: think is a lesson that people need to understand. You 268 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: do not buy gold and silver to become wealthy. It 269 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: is wealth, and it is wealth that has outlived two 270 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: world wars, a German hyper inflation, the Great Depression, every pandemic, 271 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: everything the world has ever thrown at it, and it 272 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: is the only asset that ever every central bank on 273 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: the planet owns, which, by the way, in twenty twenty 274 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: two they accumulated more of it, the second most in history, 275 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: and more than any time since nineteen sixty seven when 276 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: the dollar was backed by gold. The big money, the elite, 277 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: the central banks, they understand what gold truly is, and 278 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: it's not an investment as we are told taught to believe. 279 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: It to me is wealth and that's why I own it. 280 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: Wealth that I hope I never need to use. If 281 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: I do not, just for an emergency, could be an 282 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: opportunity when the dust settles, when interest rates rise and 283 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: asset prices fall in terms of finding equilibrium with the 284 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: rising interest rates, there will be values. There will be 285 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: amazing opportunities to take advantage of into me. That's what 286 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: gold and silver are. Wealth that will be there when 287 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: you need it for an opportunity, an emergency, or if 288 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: not passing on to my children and grandchildren long after 289 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: the bills in my wallet are hanging from a frame, 290 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: and the Smithsonian as an example of what was gold 291 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: and silver will still be immutable wealth. And that, honest 292 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: to God, is the reason I own it and how 293 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: I look at it and how I try to educate 294 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: my clients and the people I talked to on these 295 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: types of podcasts as to what it means to me. 296 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. A couple of things that you mentioned that 297 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: I want to kind of circle back to. The first 298 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: thing you mentioned was the price of housing when you 299 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: look at it through the lens of gold, and you know, 300 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: part of if we look at you know, nineteen sixty is, 301 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, obviously during that time the price of gold 302 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: was heavily suppressed because it was pegged to the dollar. 303 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: And fast forward a few years and you realize the 304 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: real market value of gold, you know, pops into existence. 305 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: But even if you start the data from that point, 306 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: once the price of gold has popped, and look forward 307 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: right now, the ratio of the average single family home 308 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 1: compared to gold is very stable throughout time, and in 309 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: fact what happens is it goes down slightly, meaning that 310 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: you can purchase it takes less gold to purchase the 311 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: same house. But in addition to that, and this is 312 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: never because you can't do this data, You can't factor 313 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: this in, you know, on a large scale. I mean 314 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: maybe you could look at square feet and things like that. 315 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: But the house, the single family house today that is 316 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: being measured in this data is by very many measures, 317 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: way better than the single family houses from nineteen sixty 318 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy. I mean, go over to your grandma's house. 319 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: It was built in nineteen fifty, nineteen forty, nineteen sixty, 320 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: and then look at the average single family home today. 321 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: There's no comparison when you look at the square footage, 322 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: when you look at the amenities, when you look at 323 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: the technology, the resistance to whether the you know, the 324 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: what's the word when the temperature can't come in and 325 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: out with the insulation. Yeah yeah, yeah. So from all measures, 326 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: it's like, even if that gold only will purchase you 327 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: still one single family house just like it would have 328 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: sixty years ago. It's a way better house today than 329 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: it used to be. So when you look at what 330 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: you're seeing is deflation through progress that over time, when 331 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: you save your money in real money and sound money 332 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: in wealth. Then what you're doing is you're you're preserving 333 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: your purchasing power, and slowly, over time you're gaining a 334 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: little bit. And then you don't have to be worried 335 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: about like the negative interest rates. You don't have to 336 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: be worried about the next big thing. You don't have 337 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: to be worried about the bubble, because you know that 338 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: long term you're preserving you're preserving your purchasing power, and 339 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: when stuff goes on sale, if you want to, you 340 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: can buy it then and you don't have to worry 341 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: about your dollars in the in Silicon Valley bank and 342 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: whether or not the government's gonna kinda bail you out. 343 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: That's exactly That's exactly it. And I think, I mean, 344 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: you set a lot there, and I completely and totally 345 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: I totally agree. I mean, when you have enough gold 346 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: and silver, you don't care what happens in the banking 347 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: system too. It agree, I mean you do, but you 348 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: you don't. You have you have a little bit of 349 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: detachment from the system. And in the world of declining 350 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: privacy and inflation and you know, brain dead monetary policy, 351 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: I think it's never been more important to own it. 352 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: And I think this is why you are seeing the 353 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: Colmax market being bled dry, while you're seeing the London 354 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: Metals Exchange being bled dry. Why you are seeing the 355 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: central banks go on a buying binge. And you know, 356 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: it's important to understand that when we talk about metal 357 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: being taken off the Comax, I'd like to just touch 358 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: about that for one second. We're seeing record amounts of 359 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: deliveries over the last three years. In fact, whole new 360 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: group of traders emerged on the Commitment of Traders report, 361 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: which forever just showed the positioning of the commercial banks 362 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: on one end and the specs or the hedge funds 363 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: on the other. And twenty twenty they put a third 364 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: group of reportables that I'd never seen before, called the 365 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: others and the others. And this is a report, by 366 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: the way, the COOT Report that has published each week 367 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: by the Commodity Exchange, the Chicago Common Exchange, that the 368 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: CME group, and and it talks about the positioning of 369 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: the largest traders on the exchange, and this group the others, 370 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty out of nowhere started taking massive deliveries 371 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: and deliveries leaving the ecosystem. I'd like to explain what 372 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 1: that means for a moment so people can understand that 373 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: this is a one way ticket. We did a very 374 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: large order earlier this year, a fifty million dollar order, 375 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: and the client wanted to have the majority of it 376 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: in thousand ounced bars held at our Brain Salt Lake 377 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: City facility. We have a wonderful program with Brinks. We 378 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: have seven vaults around North America. The only one that 379 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: is a Comax vault is Brinks JFK in New York City, 380 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: and that's the Colmex facility. The rest of the others 381 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Miami, Salt Lake City in Los 382 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: Angeles are Brinks facilities, but not COMEX facilities. And so 383 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: the gentleman that I secured the thousand ounced bars from 384 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: is one of the two Royal Canadian mint distributors, has 385 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: an amazing deal in Canada, that is, has an amazing 386 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: deal on thousand ounce silver bars. Had them held at JFK, 387 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: and I said to him, listen, you know, I know 388 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: the price for all these thousand ounce bars. They're talking 389 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: a million ounces of silver. And I said for that 390 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: was just for half of the money that she was spending. 391 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: And I said, you know this is at Brinks JFK. 392 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: How much will it increase in price to have it 393 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: moved to bring Salt Lake City where she would prefer 394 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: to have it stored. And he said, you don't want 395 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: to do that. She doesn't want to do that, And 396 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: I said, well, why's that? He says, because it will 397 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: lose Colmes chain of custody. I said, but it's going 398 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: from Brinks JFK to bring Salt Lake City by brings truck. 399 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: No one touches it but brings. Why would that be 400 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: the case And he said, because look, once it leaves 401 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: the Comex ecosystem, even if it stays within the Brinks ecosystem, 402 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: it would have to be reintroduced and reassayed. And if 403 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: Elon Musk came up and said I'll pay fifty dollars 404 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: premium for every ounce of silver that anyone wants to 405 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: part with on comes, they would not be able to 406 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: take advantage of that in a fashion that would allow 407 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: it to allow them to react quickly enough. They would 408 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: have to have a ship back, reintroduce, reassated at a 409 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: big cost and a time leg. And so the point 410 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: of it is is that when this money, which is 411 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: wholly sophisticated because pulling metal off of Colmex in the 412 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: LBMA is very difficult. You'd have a much easier time 413 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: giving me fifty million dollars in buying gold bars and 414 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: silver bars than trying to take possession off of Colmex. 415 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: But once it leaves, it's lost all industrial liquidity. So 416 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: whoever is taking possession of the copious amount of gold 417 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: and silver is doing so in a fashion that is 418 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: removing industrial liquidity. And I don't think obviously they care. 419 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: Where is it going. Well, India imported three hundred and 420 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: four million ounces of silver last year and that's more 421 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: than the entire Coalmex ecosystem has about two hundred and 422 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: eighty eight million, of which only thirty nine million is 423 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: in the registered category. So you're witnessing massive amounts of 424 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: gold being delivered off of the COMEX and the LBMA, 425 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: and it never happened before. It was never a vehicle 426 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: that was made for delivery. It was a vehicle that 427 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: was used to offset risk. Yes you can take delivery, 428 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: but it never happened until twenty twenty. And it is 429 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: a trend that we continue to draining in a precipitous 430 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: fashion all of the industrial sized gold and silver bars. 431 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: And I would argue using price as a tool of misdirection, 432 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: and it is what betrays the lack of price appreciation 433 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: in an environment where it should be screaming higher. But 434 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: after all, it is the canary in the mind shaft. 435 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: So the West has incentive to hold the price down, 436 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: while the rest of the world uses that against us 437 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: and its accumulating massive amounts. Like I said, the most 438 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: gold accumulated by the central banks second most in history, 439 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: in the most since nineteen sixty seven. They are using 440 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: suppression of price in order to do that. And one 441 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: last point, and then I'll defer to you. I asked 442 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: my head trader the other day, because we hedge all 443 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: of our exposure to medals, and I said to him, 444 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: I said, Ryan, how much does it cost to purchase 445 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: one hundred douns gold contract? And he said, all we 446 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: need is seven thousand dollars in our margin account. Seven grand. 447 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: And my margin account controls one hundred and ninety thousand 448 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: worth of gold. What if I am a central bank, 449 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: or a sovereign wealth fund or a commercial bank with 450 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: a billion dollars in my margin account, I can create 451 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: whatever perception or reality I want, and that's exactly what 452 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: they are doing. They are suppressing the price and gobbling 453 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: it up, and you're watching a systematic withdrawal that we've 454 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: never seen before in all of the major exchanges. And 455 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: I think it's important to understand for those who look 456 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: at price, I would say it is the greatest tool 457 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: of misdirection. Instead of look at price, look at what 458 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: the biggest money in the world is doing and how 459 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: they are dedollarizing, and they are using price suppression to 460 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: drain the exchanges. It's a big deal to me what 461 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: is going on right now that you've just described. And 462 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: the fact that you brought up in nineteen sixty seven, 463 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: most people don't realize. If you take nineteen sixty seven 464 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: and you fast forward for years, you get Nixon in 465 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: the gold window. The reason for that is because starting 466 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: in sixty six sixty seven, the world started to realize 467 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: the United States doesn't have the gold they say they do. 468 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: That was a global bank run on the last trace 469 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: of a gold backed monetary system. The rest of the 470 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: world said, hey, look, we're gonna go get our money, 471 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: so they started sending the dollars back to get their gold. 472 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: That's why there was so much gold purchasing then, and 473 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: after a couple of years of that accelerating, the United 474 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: States was about to run out of gold. So Nixon said, 475 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: we're either going to leave the gold standard in two 476 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: weeks when we have no gold, or we can leave 477 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: it today and still have some gold. And so they 478 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: left it today and maintain some of their gold. So 479 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 1: it's very interesting to me that what's been going on 480 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: since twenty twenty and is accelerating. I mean, it wasn't 481 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: just twenty twenty as an outlier and then it fell off. 482 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty two was the most since nineteen 483 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: sixty seven. Just last year, and moving into this year, 484 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: when you look at the January and the February data, 485 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: it is continue even like Singapore record amounts of gold purchasing. 486 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: And so we're seeing right now the world do something 487 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: extremely similar to what happened last time there was a 488 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: giant transition in the global Fiat monetary system. It was 489 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: a start, it was an end and a start of 490 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: a new monetary system. So the world loaded up on 491 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: gold because they knew that was the only asset that 492 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: was not at the same time somebody else's liability and 493 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: those dollars they were holding where liabilities and central banks 494 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: are doing the exact same thing today, and what they're 495 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: getting rid of instead of dollars, it's time is treasuries, 496 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: because that's the asset that they've been holding. Japan one 497 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: point three trillion dollars down to one trillion dollars, China 498 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: one point three trillion down to nine hundred billion. I mean, 499 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: everybody who's the biggest holders of treasuries is getting out, 500 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: getting out of the door without sparking a panic, and 501 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: everybody's loading up on gold instead. And so it's it's 502 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: a really eerie echo of what happened right before he 503 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: left the gold steam. Yeah, totally. And I'd also like 504 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: to mention you know, the lbmade last year had lost 505 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: seventy five percent of their aluminum stockpile and over ninety 506 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: percent of their zinc stockpile. I'd like to read to 507 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: you something that according to JP Morgan, a report that 508 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: just came out, China holds eighty percent of the global 509 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: copper inventories. We keep hearing coppers disappearing, seventy percent of 510 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: the global corn inventories, fifty one percent of global wheat, 511 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: forty six percent of global soy beans, seventy percent of 512 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: crude oil inventory and twenty percent of global aluminum inventories. 513 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: On top of aggressively stockpiling all the gold and silver 514 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: they can get these countries, they are using commodities. Zoltan 515 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: pos are one of the smartest guys I've ever read. 516 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: Used to work for the New York Fed. Now is 517 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: the repo market guru back then, and now he's the 518 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: money plumbing expert at ubs and he calls what's happened 519 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: right now Bretton Woods three and a system that will 520 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: be dominated by commodities. And you know, going back to 521 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: seventy one, I often ask people, Joe, what makes the 522 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: dollar world reserve? And few people know. You know, prior 523 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: to being completely FIAT, when Nixon closed the gold window, 524 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 1: everyone had dollars. It was the world reserve currencies. So 525 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy four, when the deal was struck with 526 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and OPEC to denominate oil globally in dollars, 527 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: everyone had it at dollars. It just made good sense. 528 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: And when you see Saudi Arabia, and I've been talking 529 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: about this for three years now, Saudi Arabia joined the 530 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: bricks Nations. Saudi Arabia signed a joint military cooperation agreement 531 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: with Russia, as did Nigeria. Saudi Arabia in Davos just 532 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, saying they're open to taking other 533 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: currencies for oil. When you look at the Belt Road Initiative, 534 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: the largest infrastructure project to human history, one hundred and 535 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: fifty countries or so upon it connecting Asia, Africa, South 536 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: excuse me, Asia Africa, South America and parts of Europe. 537 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: Every one of the OPEC producing countries are on the 538 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: belt Road. You look at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, many 539 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: of them are part of that. You look at the 540 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: bricks six or seven of the OPEC countries are have 541 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: applied to or already on the bricks Nations. You know, 542 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: if we lose that Petro reserve status, which it appears 543 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: we are getting closer and closer and closer to doing. 544 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: Because you put all of those entities together, they get 545 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: damn near close to eighty percent of human population and 546 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: they're not going green and the West is So what 547 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: does OPEC need us for? What has given us this 548 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: extraordinary exorbitant lifestyle and privilege to be the Petro dollar 549 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: to have every country on the planet need to buy 550 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: dollars stockpile them to buy oil. And if that changes, 551 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: the one thing that really frightens me the most, and 552 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: I talk about this a lot, would be a systematic 553 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: dumping of dollars. If OPEC comes out and says, thanks 554 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: for the memories, We've joined Bricks, We're gonna price oil 555 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: now in the new Shanghai Cooperation Organizations gold settlement currency 556 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: for the whole Eurasian continent, or the new Bricks commodity 557 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: backed currency, or just the new petro Yuan bond that 558 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: they've had now for two years that allows countries to 559 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: sell oil and natural gas to China for a bond 560 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: to nominate yuan, which is immediately convertible into gold, and 561 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: the Shanghai Gold Exchange or whatever it is, rupie, ruble, gold, 562 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: you name it. If it's not just dollars, and the 563 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: world dumps dollars all at once because they no longer 564 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: need to hold it anymore. Because these countries have coalesced 565 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: against the Western hegemony and the Western perception or perceived hypocrisy, 566 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: and the sanctions and all of the things that we 567 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: are doing. That just a counterintuitive If that happens. That's 568 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: when things get very real, and maybe this is why 569 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: you're seeing such a drive by all these trees. Look 570 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: at Turkey as an example. An ally of ours who 571 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: has formally applied to bricks bought more gold than any 572 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: country in the world last year, and same thing here 573 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: in January. In January they bought another thirty seven tons. 574 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: I think it was more than any other country in 575 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: the world in January. These countries are moving away from 576 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: the West, and they're moving away from dead instruments and 577 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: a system that is opaque into one that is transparent 578 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: based upon commodities. And this coalition of countries is what 579 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: people should be focused on, not what Jerome Powell and 580 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: Janet Yellen will or will not do. The rest of 581 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: the world is growing tired. Like you said, these countries 582 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: are shedding our bonds. Of course they are. Why would 583 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: they want to hold bonds that are yielding a negative 584 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: return in a country that has chosen inflation. And they 585 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: just did that again yesterday by bailing out the banks 586 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: over the tough decisions. And I think this is a 587 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: scary time and I think people, as Rick Ruloff and says, 588 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: we need to embrace the fact that if you are 589 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: not at least a little bit of contrarian, you're gonna 590 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: end up being a victim. And this is the time 591 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: to look at the world a little bit differently. The 592 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: process that you're describing, I think. I think some people 593 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: have a hard time with looking at the data which 594 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: is all verifiably true, and then they think, Okay, well 595 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: this means everything collapses in the apocalypse starts tomorrow, and 596 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: then two months go by nothing changes, and they think, okay, 597 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: well that was wrong. I'm just gonna go along living 598 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: life like I was before, not realizing how long it 599 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: takes for these things to unfold sometimes. I mean, we 600 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: look at the housing crisis. People were talking about that 601 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, two thousand and two. It 602 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: took years for that to finally break and people to 603 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: start to realize, oh yeah, they were right all along. 604 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: Even looking at just the inflation from the money printing. 605 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: Money printing started in twenty twenty March. It was March 606 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one before the inflation rate CPI got 607 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: back up to two and a half percent. It was 608 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: a year before the inflation the official inflation rate got 609 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: back up to what it had been before, and then 610 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: it spiked. I mean, it takes a long time. These 611 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: things happen gradually, and then suddenly people central banks since 612 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: sixty seven buying gold and then takes until seventy one 613 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: for the gold standard to finally break. So these things 614 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: don't necessarily happen overnight. You see the red flags, you 615 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: see the signs, you see the signpost pointing to the 616 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: inevitable reality, just because of math, and sometimes it takes 617 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: longer than you'd expect for the consequences to actually start 618 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: to four hundred percent. I mean, and you can see 619 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: it's a chess game. The pieces are being moved into 620 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: place right, and even you know, the reconciliation between Saudi 621 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: Arabia and Iran, who have been a dagger point for 622 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: decades in a China broker deal. They're now re establishing 623 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: diplomatic ties and opening up embassies, and the same thing 624 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: between the Saudis and in Egypt, and you know. And 625 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: so in January, the central banks, most of them in 626 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: the bricks nations, added another seventy seven tons of gold. 627 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: That's one hundred and ninety two percent month over month 628 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: increase from December, and so you are seeing massive massive 629 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: amounts of commodities being purchased, relationships being made, and even 630 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: those that have been centuries old of hatred against the 631 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: West because this is their one chance to break free 632 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: from the Western hegemony. And my enemy's enemy is my friend. 633 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: And that is what I believe you are beginning to see. 634 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: These countries are have a plan. And the Chinese have 635 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: always thought in terms of decades, while we think in 636 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: terms of days or in terms of weeks. But if 637 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: you really look at the Belt Road Initiative, at the 638 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: Bricks Nations, at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, in the Eurasian 639 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: Economic Union, and you read about it for a few days, 640 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: you'll walk away say, my god, it happening. They are 641 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: not only is it happening, but countries that used to 642 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: be on our side, like Saudi Arabia, like Turkey, like Mexico, 643 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: like Egypt, they are either joined or have expressed interest 644 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: in joy. And there's over sixty countries on the docket 645 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: to join the Bricks, over one hundred and fifty in 646 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: the Belt Road. You're talking the majority of human population, 647 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: and it's happening, and we are squandering the good graces 648 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: of our foreign creditors with our ridiculous monetary policy and 649 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: the poor decisions that we're making, and more than that, 650 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: with the sanctions and the hypocritical decisions that we are 651 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: making globally where you know, we're five billion dollars is 652 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: too much to build a border wall to protect five 653 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: million people entering this country illegally, many of which are 654 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: pouring bringing fentanol in with them. But one hundred and 655 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars to give to the Ukraine, isn't there. 656 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: These are ridiculous, ridiculous times we live in, and yet 657 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: eighty five percent of the world is still trading with Russia. 658 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: So I think we're looking at things through a polarized lens, 659 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: and I think we are alienating not just a good 660 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: portion of the world, but many of these countries that 661 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: claim to be our allies. So yeah, it isn't going 662 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: to happen all at once until it does happen all 663 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: at once. That That's how I think it was Ernest Hemingway. 664 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: They asked him how he went broke little by little 665 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: then all at once, while if you look, it's little 666 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: by little. These relationships are changing. Look at Iraq as 667 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: an example, a country we we liberated, so to speak, 668 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: and put trillions of dollars into and now for the 669 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: first time they are taking you wand for settlement outside 670 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: of the dollar, India trading with Russia, taking using rupee 671 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: for settlement instead of instead of dollars. All of these 672 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: countries striking deals unilaterally that are sidestepping and usurping the West, 673 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: little by little by little, and the unison or this 674 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: chorus of countries joining together is becoming extraordinary. So yeah, 675 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: it isn't something that will materialize all at once. And 676 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: the sad part about it is that most people in 677 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: this country will be completely blindsided by it. And that's 678 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: one of the things that I think is most frightening 679 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: is that, you know, most of this is verifiable, but 680 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: most people have never heard of the Belt Road Initiative. 681 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: Most people don't know that the Bank of International Settlements 682 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: reclassified gold, and most people don't understand these massive changes 683 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: in you know, the bricks Nations, what it really means, 684 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, what it really means. And I 685 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: think people would would be well served to spend a 686 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: little time researching that instead of just focusing on what 687 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: Jerome Powell will or will not do with monetary policy, 688 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: because to me, it amounts to a hill of beans 689 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: a half a percent, fifty basis points, twenty five basis points. 690 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: What happens if these frees dumped dollars and bonds all 691 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: at once. Mike Adams calls it Operation Sandman, where you 692 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: got one hundred and fifty two hundred countries from around 693 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 1: the world are all in agreement to add a certain 694 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: point dump dollars once the chess pieces are moved into place, 695 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: and the tsunami of inflation that that would create as 696 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: all of those dollars. There's more dollars all outside the 697 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: globe because of the Petro standard than there are at home, 698 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: and if they all get dumped and fled home at once, 699 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: the byproduct are interest rates that go parabolic, and stocks, 700 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: bonds in real estate are all inversely correlated to that. 701 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: That is the great reset. Is it the one Klaus 702 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: Schwap talked about. Don't know, but in an environment where 703 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: asset prices have been blown sky high over the past 704 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: fifteen years thanks to low interest rates, suppressed interest rates, 705 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: and easy money, it's created distortions and asset prices. And 706 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, this is probably why the FEDS stopped jumped 707 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: into to bail out the depositors to keep a massive 708 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: run on the banks and an implosion of of um, 709 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: you know, the market. And I think it's just one 710 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: end of it. You see interest rates go sky high, 711 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: it's all over that. There's not a lot the FED 712 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: can do. But we are on Matt Razer's edge. And 713 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: I you know, I wish that the things that I 714 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: talked about weren't so gloomy. But I think there's a 715 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: fine line between reality and pessimism right now, and I 716 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: think it's closer to reality than most people would like 717 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: to believe. For me, the where you draw the line 718 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: is in the action that you decide to take U 719 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: and so uh, personally, I think, yeah, it would be 720 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: a doom and gloom Outlook if you just decide that, 721 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: you know, to throw up your hands and say, hey, 722 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: there's nothing I can do. But that's not the reality. 723 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: The reality is. It's it's like, Okay, I'm gonna, you know, 724 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: prepare for the worst. I'm gonna hope for the best, 725 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: but i'm gonna I'm gonna plan for just in case, 726 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: uh this this turns out the way that it looks 727 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: like it might turn out, and like we've been talking about, 728 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: one of the best ways to do that is purchasing gold. 729 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: Now I want to address I think one of the 730 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: most um pervasive reasons that people use to not buy gold, 731 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: which is what you talked about earlier, central bank manipulation. 732 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 1: It's so easy, you need so little money to short gold, 733 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: paper gold, push the price down while with your other 734 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: hand you're loading up on physical To the extent that 735 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: that is happening, it represents the best buying opportunity for 736 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 1: gold since nineteen sixty nine. Yeah, because that the price 737 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: is lower than it would be without that manipulation. And 738 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: the manipulation must stop. It never can continue into you know, 739 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: in perpetuity, which means that if it is happening to 740 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: the extent that we think it is, that means that 741 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: it's undervalued. JP more and paid a nine twenty nine 742 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: hundred twenty million dollars fine for suppression of medals. And 743 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: I think everyone who owns gold and silver or has 744 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: wondered about what you just said, needs to do one thing. 745 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: My good friend Chris Marcus of Arcadia Economics did an 746 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: interview with then CFTC chairman Bart Chilton, and I think 747 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: you should Google Bart Chilton, Chris Marcus Arcadia Economics. Now, 748 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 1: Bart Chilton admitted what I'm about to tell you on 749 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: this video on a YouTube on a podcast just like 750 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: this here, and he had only said it to one 751 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: person one time, and it was Chris Marcus. Now. Coincidentally, 752 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 1: he died six days later. But I will tell you 753 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: that what he said in a nutshell was that bear 754 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: Stearns went bankrupt because of their short bet on silver, 755 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: largely because of it, not entirely, but that was a 756 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: good portion of it silver one to twenty one bucks. 757 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,240 Speaker 1: They went bankrupt. Jamie Diamond was called into Hank Paulson 758 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: and Ben Bernanke's office and they said, Jamie, we need 759 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: you to take over bear Stern Shore position. And Jamie said, okay, guys, 760 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: I'll do that, but I will be in violation of 761 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: position limits. Well, Jamie, you have a certain amount of time, 762 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: let's say ninety days, and just get yourself in order 763 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: and close out some of those shorts so you're not 764 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: in violation a position limits. Okay, thanks guys. Out the 765 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: door he went, and he took over Stern Shore position 766 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 1: in silver. At the end of the period. Bart Chilton, 767 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: who was the head of the CFTC went into his 768 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: superiors and said, guys, not only have they not decreased 769 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: their short position, they've increased it. They need to be prosecuted. 770 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: They are in violation of our agreement. There in violation 771 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: of anti trust law. They're breaking the law. They're manipulating 772 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: the market. We need to prosecute. They said, Bart back down. 773 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: It's a political decision. This is the head of the 774 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: Commodity Police admitting this to Chris Marcus, and then he 775 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 1: died six days later. I'm not saying that as a connection. 776 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a pure coincidence. It is the only 777 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: time he ever admitted this, and anyone who questions manipulation 778 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: of the metals market needs to listen to that. Well, 779 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: why would they do it. There's a term in economics 780 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: called Gibson's paradox which speaks to the inverse relationship of 781 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: real interest rates in the price of gold. So if 782 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: your intent is to suppress interest rates to create an 783 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: illusion of prosperity in our home prices are four oh 784 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: one K to force speculation to incentivize debt accumulation, then 785 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: you have to step on gold and silver. And that's 786 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: exactly what the West has done for a very long time. 787 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: They have done it to maintain an illusion of dollars 788 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: strength and market strength. And this was the name of 789 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: the game for a very, very, very long time. And 790 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: so you're talking about concerted effort to suppress the price 791 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: of gold, because it's as if you pull back the 792 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: curtain and see a little frail man in the Wizard 793 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: of Oz, not the big booming voice, when you realize 794 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 1: that if it were not for the four or five 795 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: banks that have abnormally large shore positions in gold and silver, 796 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 1: the price would be markedly higher. You look at silver 797 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: has the largest concentrated shot position by four banks of 798 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: any commodity traded on the commodity exchange. Why why do 799 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: they go to such great lengths to suppress the price 800 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: of gold and silver when they let every other asset 801 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: price go to the moon. And it is because they 802 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: are the monetary metals that show the fragility of the 803 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: Western system. Well, for a long time, that was the 804 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: game they played, and now our foes are using it 805 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: against us. They are using our own leverage, our own 806 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: suppression of the metals, to drain the exchanges and ship 807 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: them eastward. When I told you it leaves the ecosystem 808 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: of Comex, it loses all liquidity. They don't care. They 809 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: want it shipped. There is a branch of Valcabi that 810 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: just opened up, I don't know, twenty miles from my 811 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: house here in Florida. Valcambia is a seventy year old refinery. 812 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 1: All they do is buy scrap. They don't sell anything. 813 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: They buy scrap and send it to Switzerland. And where's 814 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: all that metal going once it's refined in Switzerland? Look 815 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: at the numbers. It's all going to China, to Russia, 816 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 1: to India, to Saudi Arabia. It's going eastward. And so 817 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: all I can simply say is why this hasn't materialized 818 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: Because this is a high stakes game, and I think 819 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: they're trying to squeeze as much out of the system 820 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: as they can. And when a new system emerges, one 821 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 1: that will be pegged to commodities. And you talk about 822 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: distributed ledger technology, the Chinese digital you want has been 823 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: what most of the contracts have settled for or with 824 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: on the New Belt Road initiative. They started using it 825 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: at the Beijing Olympics. It's been four years of beta 826 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: testing north the twenty five billion in successful transactions. What 827 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: better way if you are going to issue a competitive currency, 828 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: a reserve currency, a digital current see but to use 829 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: distributed ledger technology to show what every one of these 830 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: countries is pledging to the system. You know, I heard 831 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: people say, well the Euro doesn't work. Why will this work? 832 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 1: This union of countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran who 833 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: really don't like each other but are trying to mend 834 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: fences and are trying to create a union against the West. 835 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: What will make it work? What didn't make the Euro 836 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: work as you had all of these different cultures pulling 837 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: in different directions. What will make this work with the 838 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: same environment, maybe even more severe, is the pledging of commodities, 839 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: and each one of these countries will have equals, say 840 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: at the table by what they pledge to the system, 841 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: using distributed ledger technology like Allah, the digital Yuan or 842 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: the rails of it to show the immutability and the 843 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: veracity of what each country has pledging to the system 844 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: to make it work. And when you realize gold was 845 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: reclassified by the BIS in twenty nineteen and the world 846 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,280 Speaker 1: looks at it now as a riskless, high quality liquid asset, 847 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: basically tier one. It makes a whole lot more sense 848 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: why all the central banks are gobbling it up. Because 849 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: a new system will rise from the ashes of this 850 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 1: fiat system. It will have to be pegged to something, 851 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: and trust has been compromised. What better way to roll 852 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: out central bank digital currency than to show what is 853 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: pledged to it. So I think these things are happening. 854 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: And to your point, it's a good one, Joe, it 855 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: is a good one. Why hasn't happened yet Because this 856 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: is a very high stakes game. You get one shot 857 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: at it. And I think they're putting all of their 858 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: pieces together in unification of trader arrangements in a new 859 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 1: currency that will be backed by something probably on the 860 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: rails of the Chinese digitally one. And I think it's happening, 861 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: and it's frightening to think of what will happen. Look, 862 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: I got three kids. My youngest is fifteen. I'm scared 863 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: for the world she grows up. And if we lose 864 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: the reserve status, and I think there's a high probability 865 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: we will, Who the hell would want to buy our 866 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 1: bonds earning a a you know, a negative yield right 867 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: now and an a currency that has been signaled by 868 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: the powers that be to be inflated away, and the 869 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: decisions they made this weekend only underscores that I completely agree. 870 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 1: And for any individual that doesn't yet have any allocation. 871 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: One of the other objections that I hear a lot 872 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: is about you know where to put it, and so 873 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: there are a couple of solutions. But to put it 874 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: into perspective, you're a high net worth individual. You've got 875 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: ten million dollars and you want to make a high 876 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: allocation of gold of let's say a third of your 877 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,919 Speaker 1: net worth. You can fit three million dollars of gold 878 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: in a shoebox, so you don't you don't need that much. Yeah, 879 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: there's forty thousand dollars right there. You know that. That's 880 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 1: pretty much forty grand And how many of these could 881 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: you put in a shoebox? Well, a lot, And so 882 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: you're right, it is easy to store. And I think 883 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: you hold it yourself. I think counterparty risk is going 884 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: to become a big deal over the next next few years, 885 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,919 Speaker 1: and the removal of counterparty risk is a good deal. 886 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: So to hold it yourself until you get to a 887 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 1: point where you no longer feel comfortable doing that. There 888 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: are other options, but yeah, I think holding it yourself 889 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: is the best way to do it well. In a 890 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 1: world where we've seen time and time again trust gets broken, 891 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: whether it was breaking the gold standard and going back 892 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 1: on our promise to deliver gold for dollars in nineteen 893 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: seventy one, whether it is you know, the promise of 894 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: your dollars being safe in the bank account and then 895 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: the bank, you know, loaning them out into assets that 896 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 1: lose value and you go to get them and they're 897 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: not actually there. We're seeing that trust is becoming more 898 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: and more of an issue today, and that's one of 899 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: the reasons why I have so much respect for you 900 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: and your company is because of the integrity, because of 901 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: the trust. I'm going to be linking Miles Franklin in 902 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: the description in the show notes. If you're on listening 903 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: on a podcast where you don't have the show notes, 904 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 1: it would it's Miles Franklin dot com. 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And I will make damn sure the 913 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: people listening to this podcast Joe won't be the first ones. 914 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: And for the sake of being able to track all 915 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 1: of this and to make sure the people listening are 916 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: treated with kid gloves, it would be great if they 917 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: put Joe Brown sent me and in the subject line 918 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: ask any questions. We can return an email or a 919 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: phone call with the answers to those questions and an 920 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: updated price list with no obligation. And jeez, I'm just 921 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: really thankful to be here with you today. Joe. I'm 922 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: a big fan. I watch everything you do, and you 923 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: have a great grasp on what is going on, and 924 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 1: you know in a world where you know, traditional media 925 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: is leaving people completely blindsided by what's coming. In my mind, 926 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: guys like you and the Economic Ninja and Chris Marcus 927 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: and all the folks that I am friendly with and 928 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: watch every day, that is the real media. That is 929 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: where we're getting real information on how to save, on 930 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: how to get out of debt, on what is important 931 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: on geopolitical events, and I just am very appreciative for 932 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: being here and just a phone call away anytime you 933 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: need me back or a perspective on what's going on 934 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: in the metals market. Certainly happy to come back anytime. Fantastic. Yeah, 935 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: we'll definitely have to have you back. And thank you 936 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,760 Speaker 1: again Andy for coming on the show. I know everybody's 937 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: going to enjoy this. It's of great insights and we'll 938 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: talk to you. Stay well, buddy. Thank you