1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: If you tuned into this thinking that you were gonna 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: get Marie Condo tips, think again. Sorry, we should put 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: a disclaimer at the beginning of this, like this is 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: just us absolutely just trying to get more better at that. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: This is a bit just trying. We're not really doing it. 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: We're just trying more better. 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: More and more, a little more better more. 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to more Better. 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: A podcast where we stop pretending to have it all 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: together and embrace the journey of becoming a little more 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: better every day. 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: Or I mean, we're trying. Okay, we're trying. I'm trying. 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: We are trying, We're you're trying, I'm trying. We're all 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: trying together. That's why you're listening. That's most Famarro and 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: that's Stephanie Beatrice and we're trying trying together. Okay, try there. 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: That's what I should have called the podcast, trying to 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: get together. You're trying too late to change. It's too late. 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: People change their people change show titles, although I don't 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: know if people have changed show titles like a TV 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: show after it's aired. Oh yeah, I wonder that'd be crazy. 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: What if Cheers was like called like the Big Bar 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: or something like that they were like, cheers the big bar, 23 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, the big bar. Okay, how's it going, How 24 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm doing pretty good in Atlanta. 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: I'm still in Atlanta for anyone keeping tracks, still here, 26 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: but my family's here this month and. 27 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: It's all cute, really really amazing. How's antl treating you? Guys? 28 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: So good at you know, it's just like, I'm more relaxed, David. 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: It's more relaxed. The kids are super happy. 30 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: It's just you know, a month, so I don't think 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: it's too long or daunting for anyone, and it feels 32 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: like a little break in this marathon of separation. 33 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Yes, are they are still going to school? 34 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, We've had a really sweet school that was 35 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: willing to take the little one for a month, and 36 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: they've been so amazing for him, and he's made little 37 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: friends and it's been great. 38 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: He went on his first little field. 39 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: Trip and then Enzo's been killing it with the tutor 40 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: and like the homeschool situation, I think it's been kind 41 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: of a nice break for him, kind of mentally, like 42 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: just the little stress of school. And yeah, he's been 43 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: killing it with his work and really focused. And then 44 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: you know, he loves the free time too. 45 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: And of course he does. How old, he's like right 46 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: in that zone where he can like start to read 47 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: stuff that he likes on his own, you know, he yeah, 48 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: he can. 49 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: Reading is a little bit of a struggle for him, 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: but he if it is something that catches his interest, 51 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: like he is into it and he's a really strong reader, 52 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: like he's very good at decoding big words, and yeah, yeah, 53 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: and so but yeah, he's been Yeah, it's been great. 54 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: It's been a nice break, I think for everyone. And 55 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: even though it's like another kind of layer of exhaustion 56 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: on top of everything else, it's like a good kind 57 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: of exhaustion, you know. It's like it's just nice to 58 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: have your family together. It's nice to come home to 59 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: your family, man, and it's nice to see them in 60 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: the morning, and it's nice to have a little more routine. 61 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: And yeah, how are you doing. 62 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm good, you know, uh, just hanging out in La 63 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: Just I'm very very happy that I get to spend 64 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: so much time with Roz right now and Brad and like, 65 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, watching a lot of movies. Watched so many movies. 66 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: One of the movies is not a bunch of us 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: went and saw Captain America. It was like really fun. 68 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: A bunch of us just met with opening weekend and 69 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: that was really fun. Like we had our you know. 70 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: I made Brad go get popcorn and he came back 71 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: with like the branded giant popcorn that was like half 72 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: the size of your body, with like a Captain America 73 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: shields on the top, like our drinks at like tiny 74 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: figurines on the top, like look at any Anthony. 75 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: So it's been really like a cool highlight. I just 76 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: love movies. I love Yeah. 77 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: I have to say it's been really nice this season 78 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: that I feel like there's been a really good mix 79 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: of like big movies and like smaller, more indie feeling 80 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: movies and like weird movies and movies that took big swings, 81 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: and it's just been like a nice mix. It makes 82 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: me hopeful for like a you know, an incoming creative 83 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: renaissance that we're always hoping for. 84 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: Right. 85 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: Well, I started watching Showgun. Have you seen I haven't 86 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: seen shown? 87 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: Ye? Good? It is wow. Also there's like a lot 88 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: of hot people on it, so that's nice. Eye can't 89 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: be really fun always helpful. Yeah, I'm I'm just you know, 90 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: and I'm all, I'm pretty much caught up with all 91 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: my housewives ladies doing good, just you know doing Yeah, girl, 92 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: you're like living. I love it. I love this for you, 93 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: just living my life over here. I mean, I'm I'm 94 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: absolutely in need of uh I'm like looking around my office. 95 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: You guys can't see me, but like my office is 96 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: a trash right now, Like it is. Absolutely there's like 97 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: a giant bag and like corner with like stuff to 98 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: take to the goodwill. It's not more better? 99 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: Well, how perfect for what we're discussing today is that's 100 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: it will give you the push. We are talking about 101 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: decluttering and spring cleaning. SOAR is gonna have an assignment 102 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: after this. 103 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: I do want to get more better at this. I 104 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: do want to get more better at this because, like 105 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, spring cleaning is it's I'm I'm sure. I 106 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: don't know if we have notes about this, but like 107 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: there's like a tradition of you know, when the seasons change, 108 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: it's important to like change with the season, right and 109 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: so like when spring actually comes, we're not I'm not 110 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: in it yet. We're not in it yet, but it 111 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: is so nice to do things like sweep your front 112 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: step or like you know, do the closet clean out 113 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: or like turnover, Like, okay, the sweaters are going away, 114 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: the jackets are getting going in the back of the 115 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: clause or whatever the fuck. But like the amount of stuff, 116 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: the amount of like it's like I just get so 117 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: resistant to it. I guess is like I get resistant 118 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: to the start. 119 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: Of it, and I don't want to do it. I 120 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: don't want to do it. You got done, you'll do it? 121 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And like no, it can be a lot. 122 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm just not the kind of person that's like, let 123 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: me get a list out or you know, I mean, 124 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: I'll make a list, but like I'm not. I remember 125 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: reading did you ever read The Little House on the 126 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Prairie books? Not watch the show, but read the books. No, okay, 127 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: well there's still time for you. They're very good. But 128 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: there was this thing in the Little House books where 129 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: like Monday they would do the wash, Tuesday they would 130 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: do this, Thursday they would do that, you know, like 131 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: there was a day for like whatever. I can't. I 132 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: can't live that way. I can't and I know my 133 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: life would be better for it if I did stuff 134 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: like that, but sure, I cannot do it. I can't. 135 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: I can't do it. 136 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: That surprises me because I feel like, I mean, I know, 137 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: obviously people tidy up before like you come over, but 138 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: like every time I've been to your house or even 139 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: like just how your dressing room was laid out, I 140 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: feel like you are so organized. 141 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: Well I am organized. I'm very organized, and like I'm 142 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: ruthless when it comes to stuff like m like you 143 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: don't let yourself acquire too much. Well, but the thing 144 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: that I'm just about throwing away. But I'm also like 145 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: a major collector, so like I collect constantly, like I'm 146 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: like a magpie. If it's shiny and interesting, I'm like 147 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: I need one of those and one of those and 148 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: one of those and one of those, you know, and 149 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: so like I just accumulate so much. But I also like, 150 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: am I'm good at like getting rid of stuff. It's 151 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: just the the the organizing aspect of it, or like 152 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: looking at it as a big mountain then I need 153 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: to climb. It's different when I'm in my closet, like 154 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: if we leave clothes out of it, because clothes are 155 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: like a different category. I feel like they're like right, 156 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: it's more about fashion and fun and like, yeah, utilizing 157 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: what you have and blah blah blah blah blah. I'm 158 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: talking about like stacks of books, like stuff that needs 159 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: to get to the framer note books that are empty 160 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: or half filled with stuff. You know, I'm just looking them, literally, 161 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: just looking around at the stuff that I need to 162 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: get rid of. I'm like, oh, you know, like, what's 163 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: that piece of wrapping paper that I've had for six 164 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: years that I just haven't used on anything because it's 165 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: so pretty? You know, I like, what do I do 166 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: with this little card from this thing that I got 167 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: invited to that I don't want to throw away? But 168 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: I where do I? You know? 169 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 170 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: I get it. It can be a lot, and I 171 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: and you know, like. 172 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: It though you like doing it, I do. I love 173 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: a good declutter and purject. 174 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: I literally feel myself less stressed out after I do it. 175 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: I was so judgmental without why. I was like why, 176 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: I really was. 177 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: Like, ew didn't even clock it didn't even God, you 178 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 2: should have. 179 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, I. 180 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: Love the ritual of spring cleaning. You know, it certainly 181 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: hasn't happened every single year, because you know, there have 182 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: been some crazy springs and then but like when it 183 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: doesn't happen, it's like in the back of my mind 184 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: and I'm stressed out, and I'm like, I've got to 185 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: get it done before the fall comes, like something about 186 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 2: like before the cold weather comes, like I still got 187 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: to do this. And I would say we do like 188 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: a big we did a big declutter purge of the 189 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: whole house. Uh maybe like a year or so ago, 190 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: you know, obviously, like the the goal is always to 191 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: do it every year, but yeah, sometimes you don't need that. 192 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: Like sometimes it's like to do the whole house. Like 193 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: we went closet by closet, Like we picked a week 194 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: that we didn't have much going on, and we were 195 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: just like, okay, Monday, we're tackling the coat closet, which 196 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: doesn't just have coats, it also has bins in there 197 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: of like bullshit, Like there's a bin in there of 198 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: beach bags. Do we need five beach bags? We use 199 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: the same fucking one every time we go to the beach. 200 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: We don't need the other ones, you know what I mean? 201 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: Like five umbrellas, half of them were broken like shit 202 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: like that, and we just like went closet by closet 203 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: and then like drawer by drawer because we have like 204 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: junk drawer, like what we call junk drawers. We have 205 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: like one in our bedroom and one in the kitchen 206 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: that like shit just kind of gets tossed into. So 207 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: you don't like a junk drawer not. I fucking hate 208 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: the junk. 209 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: I love hate use. I refuse to have a junk 210 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: drawer in my house. My husband is trying to turn 211 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: the one. There's a drawer in the kitchen that holds 212 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: like the keys, pens, no pads, and he kind only 213 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: is putting it in there, and I'm just like, what 214 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: is this? Get it out? I don't. But if you 215 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: don't put it in there, where are you putting it? 216 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: They throw away? Melissa, Well throw it away. Yes, if 217 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: it isn't home, it needs to be in the trash. 218 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: But does not have a home. That's and you know what, 219 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: as I'm listening to you, I'm like, that's why I 220 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: don't do this very often, because like everything has a home, 221 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't have a home, I throw it away. 222 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: And Brad has gotten so annoyed with me before because 223 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: he's like, Oh, I'm like where does this live? Where 224 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: does this? Where's this? You? Know, like where does this live? 225 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: Where's the home for this? And he's like, yeah, why 226 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: do you talk about these things like it's not which 227 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: is so weird because I am obsessive about it needs 228 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: a little home. It needs to have a home, and 229 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: it can't just go in a bin. Can't be in 230 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: a bin, you know, Like I'm like, it has to 231 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: have a home. But what happens if you don't have 232 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: it like a home? 233 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: Like like good, But there's some things that you don't 234 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: random that you don't live here. 235 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: You don't live here. Exe to me what a random 236 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: thing would be. Tell me what a random thing would be. 237 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you where I'll put it. Well, challenge me. 238 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what's in our bedroom? So our 239 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: bedroom junk drawer is a bedroom a mix of girl. 240 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: It's a drawer. It closes. I'll have to look at it. 241 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: Okay, it has a mix of uh, notebooks, no block 242 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 2: of ew. 243 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: No. 244 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: We have books everywhere. I literally don't have space on 245 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: any shelf. 246 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: You need to throw at some of those books. But 247 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: half of them we use. 248 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: And then maybe there's one or two in there that 249 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: are probably maybe that are like maybe sentimental. 250 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: Here's what I think if it's a novel and you're like, 251 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: I am so proud that I read this book and 252 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: I want to read it again someday, keep it. But 253 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: books are trophies, essentially, their trophies their trophies to like 254 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: display of like look at how smart I am, like 255 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: all these books that I read, and so unless they're 256 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: being used as a reference, stugy it is, unless they're 257 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: be to me, Unless they're being used as a reference, 258 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: or you know that you're going to lend them out 259 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: to someone else after I've read it, I'm just like goodbye, 260 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: oh good bye. I don't need you anymore. Like I'm 261 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: never going to read My Court of Thorns and Roses again, 262 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: Like I already read it, you know, right right, right right, goodbye. 263 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: We have a lot of books in our bedroom book 264 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: most of them are like books we plan on reading 265 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: and then. But I also like I I. 266 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: Have my whole life. 267 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: I still don't really have this, but like you know, 268 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: when you see it in fancy houses, there's like a 269 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: study or like a room with a big bookshelf. I mean, 270 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: I kind of have a big bookshelf, but it's like 271 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: in the kid's room, and you know, the top half 272 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: of it as mine. There's something aesthetically beautiful about that. 273 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: And I also find it, like, I don't know, cozy 274 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: and comforting. So like for me seeing books around that 275 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: we've read is just there's something visually kind of cozy 276 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: about it that I just joy looking at. And I 277 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: just also have a dream of having a room where 278 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: there's like a library, a library, yeah, where there's like 279 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: all these books and it's not about like the books 280 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: we've read or haven't read or you know, trophies. Let's 281 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: be real, it's true not And I do like to 282 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: go back and write. I do like go back to 283 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: reference like reference books. 284 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know, I. 285 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: Just it's just something that is like cozy and comforting 286 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: to me. Like I will sit in that room sometimes 287 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: and like stare at all the books and be like, oh, yeah, 288 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: remember that one, or like I still have we have 289 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: all the plays that we've read or like worked from. 290 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: There's like one that's like full of plays and like 291 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: I will thumb through that sometimes or just look at 292 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: it and be like, I don't know, it's like little memories. 293 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah that makessonally that makes sense. I mean 294 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: I think library like I'm just saying, like with the notebooks, 295 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: what are the notebooks in the drunk drawer? Like what 296 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: are are they like spiral notebooks? Are they? Like? Are 297 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: they also to look at? Like what is the deal 298 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: with these notebooks? 299 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? There is, Yeah, there's a couple spirals. They're like 300 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: David and I are both list makers. Otherwise we can't 301 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: remember shit, right, so we have so those sometimes are 302 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: I think like the top two notebooks are like our 303 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: notebooks that we grab sometimes when we have to make 304 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: like bigger lists because we also have like pads of 305 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: paper in the kitchen junk drawer, but that's more for 306 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: like shorter lists and groceries and stuff. 307 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: This is junk so far these things belong in the drawer, 308 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, junk drawer is. 309 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: Just like a phrase. And then there's a big notebook 310 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: in there that's like a leather notebook that was given 311 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: to me as a gift that I was supposed to 312 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: use as a journal and I never did. 313 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: But it has a very sweet inscription in it, and 314 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: I have written in it a little bit. But my 315 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: brain is like, rip out the inscription, get rid of 316 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: the leather notebook. I can't. I refuse to buy an 317 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: ugly notebook. This is like, oh yeah, that's pretty. It 318 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: has to be esthetically like pleasant to be out on 319 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: the counter. 320 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, in case it's out on the counter. Yeah, 321 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: I do that too. 322 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: This one that I'm holding up is like covered in 323 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: flowers and stuff. Like in the drawer next to me 324 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: is it's my desk strawer, And there's like a compartment 325 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: for everything, Like there's a it's this is the desk drawer. 326 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: But if I need a lighter, I know exactly where 327 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: it is. If I need the pencil sharpener, I know 328 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: exactly where it is. If I need the glue, I 329 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: know exactly where it is, the stikler, whatever, whatever. 330 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: The junk drawer can be organizational. I wouldn't say I'm 331 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: trying to think of what else is in that drawer. Oh, 332 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: there's there's some eyeglass cases in there in case you 333 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: need one. 334 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: We both were glasses. 335 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 2: It's like, and then there's like some travel stuff. There's 336 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 2: like a ziplock of like charging cords and extra like 337 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: squares that. 338 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: Goes with the suitcases. There does not need to be 339 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: like in the suitcases. It goes with the travel stuff. 340 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but sometimes we're putting suitcases inside suitcases in our 341 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: little like storage area where the suitcases go for saving space. 342 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: There's a little area needs to be near this travel 343 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: stuff where like you keep your little travel bags and 344 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: like your You're like, yeah, but ours is like outside 345 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: and like in the garage. And then there's like, let me, 346 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Different things work for different families, Yeah, obviously, 347 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: but like I mean, I feel like we're both saying 348 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: the same thing that like isis guys. Our producer was like, 349 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: this will be a fun episode, and like as she 350 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: said it, I was like, a' so fucking moly, not 351 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: it won't. It's gonna give me anxiety. My shoulders will 352 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: like up on my ears. I hate liss, I hate it. 353 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: I like I will say that things do get tossed 354 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: in that drawer a lot, and so every few months 355 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: I will empty the whole drawer and throw out shit 356 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: and then like kind of just keep the shit that 357 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: I know we still use or grab and like, and it's. 358 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: Always like half of what was fucking in there. 359 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: Sometimes you're just you know what it is too. Like 360 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: David a little bit more than me hates like clutter 361 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: on like the counter eat on our dresser or like 362 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: right and so. But sometimes there's things that you're like, 363 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: oh fuck, like I'm you know, I can't throw this 364 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: out yet, I might need to get it later whatever, 365 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: or I'm not sure, so it just goes in the drawer. 366 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: It's also like just like a like a quiz can't 367 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: see me, but I'm rubbing my face because you're just 368 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: like trying to declutter quickly and you don't have time 369 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: to like go through every fucking thing and check with 370 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: your partner do we need this? Do we not? 371 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 2: Can't throw this out, so it just gets like shoved 372 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: in the drawer and then we go through the drawer 373 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: when it's full. 374 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: System. It's a system. Hate it. We have a kitchen peninsula, 375 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: and like Brad is amazing in so many ways, he 376 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: will clean the whole peninsula. Everything is like spick and span. 377 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: He loves to clean. And then in the middle of 378 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: the peninsul will be a giant mountain of just bullshit, 379 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: like bullshit that what just put it away? And like 380 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: I've realized in our partnership, I am the one. I 381 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: am the one that needs to put these things away 382 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: or choose whether or not they go in the trash right, 383 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: and like I try so hard, like the systems that 384 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: I put in place, I try to get him to 385 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: understand what it is about the system that I want 386 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: to have happened, Like there was there's like a bookshelf. 387 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: We do have a big bookshelf in our living room 388 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: that has bottom is kids books, middle is like reference materials, 389 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: and you know, there's lots of pictures on the shelf. 390 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: And then on the very top of the shelf to 391 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: the right is where we're supposed to put the bills. 392 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Incoming bills, outgoing bills. Chargers are in a little box. 393 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: And then both of the laptops are supposed to sit 394 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: right on top of each other. And that's it. That's all. 395 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be there. Every time I pass by 396 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: and I look at it, and Marie Kondo talks about this, 397 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: the visual eye clutter of that is like so fucking 398 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: it makes me fucking insane. I want to put my 399 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: fists through a wall, like it is horrifying for me, 400 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: Like I can't handle it. I can handle it visually, 401 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: I just get so overwhelmed. And I think that that's 402 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: why I get really overwhelmed when it's like Okay, let's 403 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: do this room, you know, like and I can do it. 404 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: I like I wish I, you know, could put my 405 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: brain in a space where like I'm gonna do this 406 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: this week with my partner, but I don't think my 407 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: partner works that way, so like I often feel like 408 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing it by myself, you know, But like I 409 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: just like the visual. The visual of like all the 410 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: stuff everywhere is so hard for me. Yeah. 411 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the other thing that really fucks everything up. 412 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: Children forget it, honey. 413 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 2: And the amount of shit that they acquire as they 414 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 2: get older when they come home from a fucking birthday party. 415 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 2: By the way, can we campaign to just get rid 416 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: of gift bags a gift by Every time my kid 417 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: comes home with a fucking plastic bag, I want to scream, okay, 418 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: because then they want to keep every little fucking plastic 419 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: thing that's in there, And I'm like, this is bad 420 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: for the environment. 421 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 1: No one asked you to do this. I don't understand it. 422 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: Now they're expecting it. 423 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: What would be a good Like do we just give 424 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: them money? Like do we hand them like a five dollars, 425 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: like five dollars like as we don't do anything like 426 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: I don't have to treat if they want, Okay, a cookie, 427 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: A cookie, I like that, an edible gift, an edible gift, 428 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: that's nice. 429 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: Or like times I was like, in lieu of Favors, 430 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: we have made a donation to this charity Favors. 431 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: Bye, thanks for coming in lou of Favors. You don't 432 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: have bullshit coming into your house. Okay, you can tell 433 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: us thank you you are. I am not going to 434 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: send you home with some FuG and bullshit. 435 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: A book so could be cute, you know, it's something 436 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: that you like, actually use, but I really hate gift bags. 437 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: And then they want to keep all of it. And 438 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: then now my, you know, they have like their little 439 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: bedside tables and in those drawers it's just all the 440 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: fucking shit they want to save. And then I have 441 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 2: to sneak in there and go through it and like 442 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: see what I can throw out that they won't miss 443 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: or notice, and or like the shoes, you know, they'll 444 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: like rip a like a Enzo's a little bit like this, 445 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: Like he has a pair of nikes that are absolutely trashed, 446 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: absolutely trashed, but he loves that, he loves them, and 447 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 2: so he still has them and we've bought him new 448 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 2: shoes because we're like, these are really bad, you like 449 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 2: you need like nicer. Yeah, these are about to bust open. 450 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, just like things like shoes, things like you know. 451 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: And then I always call it inventory when I this 452 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: is also something I do part of my uh spring cleaning, 453 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: and it's very overwhelming, but I try to do it. Actually, 454 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: you before summer and then before winter because that's when 455 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: they need new clothes usually. But like I go through 456 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: all their shit, check all the sizes. Inevitably they're shit 457 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: in there that doesn't fit them anymore, right, right, that 458 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: you know, just goes unnoticed or they just like don't 459 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: you don't put it on them, but you keep it 460 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: in the drawer because you're busy. 461 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: Right, and then this suddenly it doesn't fit them. 462 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 2: And it's like eight in the morning when you're rushing 463 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: to get them to school and you're like, these pants 464 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: don't fit and you just drove them back in the drawer. 465 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: So I go through all the clothes, get rid of 466 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: like whatever doesn't fit or that they never wear, that 467 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: they don't like, whatever it is that has holes in it. 468 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 2: And then yeah, just like all their they're junk and 469 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: like they're it's. 470 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And then all the things that come 471 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: home from school. 472 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: We have two folders in the kitchen, one for Axle, 473 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: one for Enzo that we kind of like, you know, 474 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: accomplishments or like things they come home with that they're 475 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: proud of that you have to like wait to throw 476 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: out because if you throw out in front of them, 477 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: you're gonna like devastate them. So I'll like stick it 478 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: in their folder. 479 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: It's true how many of us have like memories of 480 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: being like holding back tears while you watch your parents 481 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: like throw it away, right. 482 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 2: You can't do that shit in front of you. Know 483 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: how many times I've been caught you have they've caught you. 484 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they've caught me. 485 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: They go to throw something out and they're like either 486 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: what does yeah, and then I'm like, oh my god, 487 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. That must have been a mistake. Or 488 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: I thought you were done with it. We celebrated and 489 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: then you know, and then I thought we were done. 490 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, and then so I go through those folders 491 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: once they start getting fat, Yeah, yeah, better. 492 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: Better. That's a good idea to keep the little the 493 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: folders in the kitchen or whatever, and like. 494 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: Just like two folders in the kitchen so you can 495 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 2: just like throw their shit in there and then you know, 496 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: and then I do, like I have a in one closet. 497 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: I do have like a little storage drawer with like 498 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: just labeled like kid memories of like I'm sentimental, so 499 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: like no I have cute drawings or like you know 500 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: when they make them do like a thing for their 501 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: birthday and kindergarten that says all their favorite things or whatever, 502 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: Like I keep that shit and I put it like 503 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: in the drawer because I look at it and sob 504 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: when they go to college and totally try to give 505 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: it to them and they'll be like are giving this 506 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: to me? I want to make sure that you do 507 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 2: have I mean, depending on the kind of person you are, 508 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: but I think most of us are sentimental in some 509 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: kind of way. So like you want to just like 510 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: you don't want to inundate yourself, but you want to 511 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: make sure that you have a space that's like these 512 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: are the things that are sacred and like they're not 513 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: going anywhere, you know. But it can be hard when 514 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: you don't have a lot of space. Like my, yeah, 515 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 2: closets in my house are kind of small, and I 516 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: have to be like very strategic about where I put 517 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: little storage boxes or things like that and try to 518 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 2: think of systems that work and then be really selective. 519 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: About what I save. And but saying we don't have 520 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: a lot of storage, I mean, and I remember when 521 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: we were buying this house, I was like, should be 522 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: at a closet or something like we should be, you know. 523 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: And there's attic space, which is great. Attic space is 524 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: lovely for extra you know, putting things in like plastic 525 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: tins or plastic bags or plastic. 526 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have that, like next to our garage. We 527 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: like a little storage room, a tiny little room. 528 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't want to like stick, you know, 529 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. Attics are also not they get really hot. Yeah, 530 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: So I don't want to like say, treasured things up there, 531 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, yes, exactly. Do you still have your wedding dress? 532 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: I do. I do too. 533 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: It's in a big old box that takes up so 534 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: much fucking room. It's like properly, you know, my mom 535 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: got it preserved or what she did, and it's just 536 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: like in the box that it came in. I just 537 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: never opened it and it's just shoved up at the 538 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: top of that. 539 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: That storage for. I don't know what I got two boys. 540 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: Maybe you never know, they marry women someday and they 541 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: want to use we never know ace. 542 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: Or some shit. I don't know, but I've seen tons 543 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: of videos lately where girls go and like use their 544 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: grandmothers or their moms and they turn it into like 545 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: a cute little like after party dress or yeah. 546 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: Oh, actually my wedding dress would look really cute as 547 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: like a little mini actual mini. 548 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I've seen the girls like put little 549 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: like cute little sleeves. 550 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: On it, or like, oh, I'm wearing this on my honeymoon. 551 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: It was my mom's or whatever, So I think that's cute. 552 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: H I. I feel like what I'm learning in this 553 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: conversation is that I don't like to do the big 554 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: decluttering because I want it to be I wanted to maintain. 555 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: I want it. 556 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to be in a maintaince phase always. 557 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: I don't ever want to. 558 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: Have to do like the deep dive, because the deep 559 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: dive is the thing that makes me. And here I 560 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: will be very honest. When we moved into this house, 561 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: we used an organizer, we used a professional organizer, and 562 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: I was like I am. I don't want any birthday presents. 563 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: I don't want any Christmas presents. I don't want an 564 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: anniversary present. I was like, I am serious, Brad, I 565 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: want this is the luxury gift that you're going to 566 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: get me for my birthday? For for the I don't 567 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: want to push present. I don't want any that shit. 568 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: I want a fucking real organizer, you know. And I 569 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: will say, I mean that's something that not everyone can do, 570 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: but everybody. I feel like everybody either knows has a 571 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: friend that's really good at this or is pretty darn 572 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: good out of themselves, and like utilize them because if 573 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: you can't do this thing on your own, like I 574 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: can't do this. I can maintain the system and I'm 575 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: really good at it. But you can't talk him up 576 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: with this system, y'all. I can't. I did try. So. 577 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: The one time that I did this was when I 578 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: was moving from being a single person into we had 579 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: I think we'd gotten married and we were now moving 580 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: from the apartment that we shared into a house. I 581 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: guess I think we're we were building, we were, it 582 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We were moving, that's the real joint. And 583 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: when we were moving I read that Marie Condo book, 584 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: Oh The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up, And she's 585 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: got this like incredible system in it, and if you 586 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: follow the system, you will get rid of shit, but 587 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: you will also be like drowning in a mountain of 588 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: your own shit. Like it is you really see how 589 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: much stuff you have because she makes you go through it. 590 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: She doesn't let you go like room by room. She's like, 591 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: start with your books. This is probably why I'm so 592 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: brutal about books. Start with your books. Then you do 593 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: your clothes. Then you do I think isis had it 594 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: written down, but like I can't remember where it is. 595 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: It's like first you commit, yeah, then you have to 596 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: like imagine, like what what do you want your ideal 597 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: lifestyle to be? And then you start like discarding stuff 598 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: and you the method is like does this spark joy? 599 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: So you literally have to put your hands on everything 600 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: that you own, and by the time that you're done, 601 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,479 Speaker 1: you're like why do I have so much shit? Like 602 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: why do I have all this stuff? Like I don't 603 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: want any of this, Like I don't want this, you know, 604 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: And it's really useful. It takes forever, though it took 605 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: I think it took a week to go through everything. 606 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: But it was like, you know, I mean I was 607 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: put in work. I was like, yeah, I was putting 608 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: in work because you take everything like you take all 609 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: of the books off the shelves, like you take you 610 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: take all of the clothes out of the closet. You 611 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 612 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: It's not right, Like, wait, let's talk about clothes as 613 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: someone who loves fashion and has a lot of clothes. 614 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: How do you get? What do you mean? How dare you? 615 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: I speak truth? You do? So this is what I so? Okay, 616 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: when I was in Toronto, I had like a bit 617 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: of a capsule wardrobe because right, and I actually loved 618 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: everything that I bought and wore in Toronto. I was like, 619 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, these are my colors. I love this 620 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: stuff like I really felt like using less made me 621 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: more aware of what I like to wear. So then 622 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: when I got back, I went through my whole closet 623 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: and that was hell. I went through my whole closet, 624 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: got rid of a ton of shit because I bought 625 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in Toronto. I think the main 626 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: rules that I have for stuff is like I don't 627 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: have any hard and fast rules like you know how 628 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: you hear, Oh, if you don't wear it in two years, 629 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: then you should get rid of it. No, no, no, no. 630 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: I have a vintage Valentino dress in my closet that 631 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: I've owned for five years. I've never worn it. I'm 632 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: waiting for the time to wear it. I'm not getting 633 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: rid of that. 634 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: You know, we've all heard my regret story about the 635 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: DVF dress that I when I was in my twenties 636 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: because I didn't think I was gonna wear it again, 637 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: And now forty year only is like, why don't I 638 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: have a dress? 639 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's some things that like I hold onto 640 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: that are important. But at the same time, I think 641 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: it's very, very very You've got to ask yourself periodically, 642 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: do you am I wearing this or am I holding 643 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: onto it? Because like, like, okay, So something that I 644 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: learned to do recently is I if I have like 645 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or whatever, I'll go in my closet and 646 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: I'll like try stuff on and take pictures and make 647 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: new outfits or whatever. And yesterday I tried on a 648 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: sweater that I was like, oh, this is such a 649 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: pretty sweater, and I put it on. I like tried 650 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: it on with jeans, and I tried it on with 651 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: the different pair of pants, and I tried it on 652 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: with something else. I was like, I don't like this. 653 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: This is really pretty on the hangar. I don't like this. 654 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: This is something for me, and I never reach for it. 655 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: And that's why, because I don't know how to wear 656 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,959 Speaker 1: it in a way that makes me feel like me. Yeah, 657 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna get rid of it. 658 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: You know. 659 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: That's a good stuff like that. It's like if I 660 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: don't know how to absolutely like grab it and put 661 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: it on and wear it in a way that feels 662 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: like me, Yeah, I gotta let it go. Yeah, even 663 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: if I paid a lot for it, even if it 664 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: was a gift, even if like whatever, whatever, you know, 665 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: Like that's how I am with books too. I'm like, 666 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: I already read it. I did it. I already did it. 667 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't want it, I don't need it, you know. 668 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I did do the the hangar trick for 669 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: a while where because I again small closet, so I 670 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: need to like every spring, like all the winter shit 671 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: goes away and I bring out my summer stuff and 672 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: vice versa, and so and my friend. 673 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: Chazz shout out Chaz. 674 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: He told me about it. He was like, when you 675 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: put all that spring stuff, he was like, put every 676 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: hanger like backwards, and then when you wear the thing, 677 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: like put it back the normal way. And at the 678 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: end of the summer you'll see all everything that you 679 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: didn't wear that summer. 680 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: And I kind of liked it. It was kind of 681 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: a neat trick. 682 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 2: Like at the end of the summer or when I 683 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 2: was whenever I was getting ready to like do the switch, 684 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 2: I saw all these, you know, and some of them 685 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 2: I kept. I was like, oh, I don't wear that, 686 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 2: but I still really love it, and like, you know, 687 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep it. 688 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: And then there. 689 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 2: Were like a lot of things and I was like, oh, 690 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 2: this makes sense why I did not wear this all summer. 691 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't think I actually like it. I'm going to 692 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: get rid of it. 693 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: It was just like a very easy visual thing. Yeah, 694 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: it helped me get rid of stuff. Now we see 695 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: you when you shop when you buy, do you get 696 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: rid of stuff? Like do you get rid of stuff? 697 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 2: Because I do that one for one yeah, one for 698 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 2: one ish. I mean I try, I really do try. 699 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 2: There is That's why there's. 700 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: Like a bag in the corner of my office right now, 701 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: I has stuff in it because there is stuff that 702 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: needs to go to the donation center. I really try, 703 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: but I also don't. I don't always subscribe to that 704 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: because I think there are like not holes in my closet, 705 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: but there's like things that I'm like what wish I had, 706 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: like a you know, yeah, yeah, And if I don't 707 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: have it, then I'm not going to get rid of 708 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: something that I already wear or like love or have 709 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: sentimental value to whatever. You know, I'm not going to 710 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: get rid of it just because I brought something new in. However, 711 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: I do think I'm not always that way with clothes, 712 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: but I am that way with stuff, like yeah, I 713 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: don't want You know, a kid's stuff is really a 714 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: hard one because they get so attached to toys, and 715 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, everybody says, like cycle the toys up, like 716 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: with what time? Like when are you guys cycling toys? 717 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I don't have the time. But 718 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: I think that that we did do when we were 719 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: cleaning up for Christmas, we stuck a bunch of her 720 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: I have to be quiet because she's in the other room. 721 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: We stuck a bunch of her stuffies downstairs, and then 722 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: before we brought all the stuff he's back upstairs. I did, 723 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: like I was like throw like into a bag for 724 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: a donation because I was like, oh, she doesn't play 725 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: with this, she doesn't play with them for a month. 726 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: You know. 727 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 2: When my kids were smaller, I would if I noticed 728 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 2: there were some toys they weren't really playing with, I 729 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 2: would just put them in a closet and wait. And 730 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: if they didn't ask for that toy or they didn't 731 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: notice that it was gone out of here here in 732 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 2: the garbage or to the donation center, I think, you know, 733 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 2: one of the things that I think I learned from 734 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: the Maricondo thing was like that question of like when 735 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 2: you hold something and it does it spark joy? Part 736 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 2: of that is like it's okay. 737 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: As somebody who grew up with not very much money 738 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: at all, it is so hard for me to let 739 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: things go when I know I spent money on them. 740 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah it's pretty. And that's something that I've learned as 741 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: an adult that's like okay, though, Like yeah, and it 742 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: might be easy for me to say, but if if 743 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: I'm holding on to something because I spend money on it, 744 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: but it is like weighing me down, Like it's in 745 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: my house and it's like taking up space. It's causing 746 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: me stress, and like you know, it's like I don't 747 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: have any room in my closet because I have all 748 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: these pairs of gens because you know, I bought them, 749 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: but I don't wear them because they don't fit. It's like, 750 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: so who am I? How am I winning here? You know, 751 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: like this is not a win for me in any way, 752 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 1: shape or form. Right, So that's something that I think 753 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: is a way to get more better at This is 754 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: like accepting that like you already, like that money's gone, 755 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: you already spent it. You done spend it already, you know, 756 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: unless this is like a vintage investment piece that we're 757 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: talking about, Like let's set that aside. It's like a 758 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: shirt or a toy or a book or like something. 759 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: It's like the money was already spent. Now do you 760 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: still like this thing? Do you still want to have 761 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: it around? Or are you keeping it around because you 762 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 1: spent money on it and you've assigned a dollar amount 763 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: to it and that's the value of it, Like is 764 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: it you know? Or could you get rid of it 765 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: or could you get rid of it, could you say 766 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: by start it out? Yeah, start it away. 767 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is always very liberating and like. 768 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: When once you do it, Yeah, I want to feel that. 769 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: I want to feel that way all the time. I 770 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: want I want constant. I say this, I'm like, God, like, 771 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: it's not that much. It's it's like five things, but 772 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: it's making me crazy because it just make a. 773 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: Schedule girl be like I'm gonna do this this day, this, this, this, 774 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 2: like well I have to. 775 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just take schedule letters up and then like 776 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: toss these things in the fucking yeah. But also like 777 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: put in the schedule put I can't throw these away. 778 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: You can't throw those away. Those cutey little handprints like 779 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: tulip my kid made a Valentine for me, and they're 780 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: like from school and they're little, the little red hand prints. 781 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 782 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: See that's what the special kid memory memory were. Yeah. 783 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: More better. I don't know, I mean, do you feel 784 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: like we like, did we just tell everyone what we 785 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: think about those? Like? What? 786 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 2: What? 787 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: How did we I don't know if I got more 788 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: better at this. 789 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: I don't know that we actually gave any tips or 790 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 2: I feel like we just vented. 791 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: Oh we did anything today? Today, we just bullshitted. You 792 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: know what, if you too thinking that you were going 793 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: to get Marie condo tips, think again. Sorry, we should 794 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: put a disclaimer at the beginning of this, like this 795 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: is just us absolutely just trying to get more better 796 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: at that. This is just trying, We're not really doing it. 797 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: I do feel inspired for when I go home. 798 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 2: Do you I'm going to get rid of some books, Stephanie, 799 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 2: I'm going. 800 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 1: To get rid of some books. Text me a little 801 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: pile of book I will. I will. 802 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 2: A little bit of that did creep in because we do. 803 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 2: You know, we have too many piles of books. I 804 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 2: try to make them look cute, like they're like like 805 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 2: on purpose. But it's time to It's time like those 806 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 2: trophies like okay, all right, relax. 807 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: Do you feel more better? I do. I feel a 808 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: little more better. I feel I feel like I need 809 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: to clean out our quote unquote junk drawer. Yuck. Why 810 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: do we have all these keys? What do these keys 811 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: go to? 812 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 2: Maybe you just have to like rebrand it. Maybe it 813 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 2: just needs a different name. 814 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: It's not a it's. 815 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 2: It is not I refuse, it's a it's an extra drawer. 816 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 2: It's the brad doesn't know what to do with this. 817 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 2: So it's the it's the yeah, the husband drawer, the 818 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 2: miscellaneous drawer. 819 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: You know, everything has a place, and everything in its 820 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: place or whatever however that's saying goes, where's its home? 821 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: Oh god, I would at home. That would drive you 822 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: would hate it. I would do where does this live? Where? 823 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: I would absolutely I'd love to say it. And it's 824 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: my favorite thing. This doesn't live in here, This doesn't 825 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: live in here? Where does this live? Oh? Shit? 826 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 2: No? 827 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah she is, Yeah, she is. Anyway to hear it 828 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: in her brain? In her brain. Yeah, when she's an adult, 829 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 1: she moves out. How does this live? She'll like it. 830 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: It's fine. Thanks for joining us on today's session of 831 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: Bitch About Cleaning. See you next week. Let's see you 832 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: next week. Do you have something you'd like to be 833 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: more better at that you want us to talk about 834 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: in a future episode. 835 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 2: Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried 836 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 2: one of our tips and tricks? 837 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at Morebetter pod at 838 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: gmail dot com and include a voice note if you 839 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 1: want to be featured on the pod. Ooh More Better 840 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: with Stephanie Melissa is a production from WV Sound and 841 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia's Mike Utura podcast network, hosted by me, Steffie Beatrice, 842 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: and Melissa more Better is produced by Isis Madrid and 843 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: Sophie Spencer Zagos. Our executive producers are Wilmer Valderrama and 844 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: Leo Clem at w V Sound. This episode was edited 845 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: by Isis Madrid and engineered by Sean Tracy and features 846 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: original music by Madison Davenport and Halo Boy. Our cover 847 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: art is by vincent Remy's and photography by David Avalos. 848 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeart, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 849 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. See you 850 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: next week's Suga Bye