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Speaker 1: They call me q ward list. Indeed, there still a
Speaker 1: lot to stick around for. Uh, we're finally going to
Speaker 1: talk about black on black crime at length. This is
Speaker 1: something that comes up quite a bit. It's one of
Speaker 1: those weird eighties zombies that won't die, like trickle down
Speaker 1: economics and uh what whatever, you know, these manufactured panics
Speaker 1: sort of buzzwords and phrases or whatever. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna discuss that a little bit. We're also going
Speaker 1: to talk about the three fifths compromise for our way
Speaker 1: black history. Fact, this is something that a lot of
Speaker 1: black folks know about and a lot of non black
Speaker 1: folks don't know about. And you know, you might live
Speaker 1: somewhere in this country where you don't get any critical
Speaker 1: race theory or better said, American history. So we got
Speaker 1: your daily dose of that right here. So stick around
Speaker 1: to find out what the three fits compromise in You
Speaker 1: will be sick to your stomach. But first and foremost,
Speaker 1: let's discuss how to become a better ally. We shall.
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Speaker 3: That band is called Rage against the Machine. Very well done, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: All right, so black on Black crime. I don't want
Speaker 1: to take a moment, man. A recent addition to the
Speaker 1: show is our producer Maggie aka Maggie be Known, And
Speaker 1: she's the one that's kind of button us up a
Speaker 1: little bit more. And sometimes she comes to the table
Speaker 1: with some stuff that she's kind of passionate about. Something
Speaker 1: she hears she thinks we need to delve into a
Speaker 1: little bit more and we're better for that. This is
Speaker 1: one such subject. We talked about black on black crime
Speaker 1: briefly last week and she felt like, you know, we're
Speaker 1: not going to wait to develop this to really make
Speaker 1: this live in our listeners' minds. Let's put something together
Speaker 1: and really flesh it out so folks know exactly what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. So shout out to Maggie. Be known now,
Speaker 1: black on black crime. It's something that I know for
Speaker 1: a fact you've heard just growing up in the United States,
Speaker 1: police or wire black people out protesting police brutality. When
Speaker 1: there's so much quote black on black crime end quote
Speaker 1: that they should be focusing on instead. If they were
Speaker 1: really outraged at black death, then they would start in Chicago.
Speaker 1: They would start in the ghetto. They would deal with
Speaker 1: their own problems before trying to uh take on police
Speaker 1: who are here to protect and serve the community at large. Right,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a narrative that exists. This
Speaker 1: is this is a reality. It's a false reality, but
Speaker 1: it's a reality. For some people. This is fact, the
Speaker 1: gospel truth, and they can't see past it. So the
Speaker 1: conversation begins and ends right there, because in their minds,
Speaker 1: black on black crime exists, and if black people aren't
Speaker 1: concerned about that, then why should they be taken seriously
Speaker 1: about anything else? Right, So, there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: in this country that that's really how they view it.
Speaker 1: And I recognize that you listening to this show might
Speaker 1: not feel that way, but I also recognize you may
Speaker 1: not have had conversations with the people in your lives
Speaker 1: that do feel that way. And so we're going to
Speaker 1: go over a couple of things that help explain why
Speaker 1: this term exists, how harmful it is, and what we
Speaker 1: can do to have some conversations with people who have
Speaker 1: kind of stuck in the short loop. You know, that
Speaker 1: was established again in the seventies, I believe kind of
Speaker 1: bolstered in the eighties alongside the crack epidemic and the
Speaker 1: black absent Black fathers, you know, myth and all that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff to just basically kind of keep from
Speaker 1: having to discuss what the reality of the situation is,
Speaker 1: which is basically white supremacy laws that allow black communities
Speaker 1: to be overly policed, overly incarcerated, grossly impoverished, denied economic opportunities,
Speaker 1: et cetera. And it just paints this really strange narrative.
Speaker 1: That again just lingers, So I'll read this comes from
Speaker 1: ABC News. Black on black crime a loaded and controversial
Speaker 1: phrase that has often heard amid calls for police reform.
Speaker 1: It's a retort sometimes heard in the context of the protests,
Speaker 1: but what about black on black crime? These retorts have
Speaker 1: more recently been mentioned along side you know, conversations about
Speaker 1: the death of George Floyd, anything having to do with
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter, etc. Often as the idea that there
Speaker 1: is a rampant crime problem within the black and mainly
Speaker 1: urban communities that some are choosing to ignore in favor
Speaker 1: of focusing on police brutality.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It's a phrase or concept that at times recently has
Speaker 1: been used by some conservatives to ask why the same
Speaker 1: activists and community members calling for police reform, seemingly, in
Speaker 1: their view, don't express the same outrage when someone who
Speaker 1: is black is killed or injured by another black person. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's stop right here for a second. Now. I've
Speaker 1: mentioned this on the on the show. In fact, you know,
Speaker 1: our first ever episode we talked about this, the first
Speaker 1: ever episode of Civic Ciphers, so long ago. How about that, man,
Speaker 1: we come a long way I'm I'm proud of you man. Anyway,
Speaker 1: our first ever episode, we discussed this, and we've we've
Speaker 1: obviously talked about it since.
Speaker 3: Then.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the value of life of our lives. Okay,
Speaker 1: by our lives, I mean black lives. For one second.
Speaker 1: If I you know, I'm from Compton, California, So that's
Speaker 1: the city I'll pick if I grew up in Compton
Speaker 1: and someone ends up taking my life, right, there is
Speaker 1: a lot of things that may go into that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Granted, there's senseless crime that happens
Speaker 1: all over the planet, right, that is definitely a thing,
Speaker 1: But oftentimes in impoverished communities again around the planet, people
Speaker 1: from all colors. A lot of times that crime is
Speaker 1: tied very closely to economic conditions. The people who have
Speaker 1: less are more willing to take what they want or
Speaker 1: need from the people who have more. Right Hitler, when
Speaker 1: he sent Jewish people to the extermination camps in Auschwitz
Speaker 1: in Germany, concentration camps, concentration camps. What did I say,
Speaker 1: extermination camps? I don't know, say that concentration camps very good? Anyway,
Speaker 1: when he sent these people, I remember reading about this
Speaker 1: in school because I actually did have American history and
Speaker 1: world history critical race or what the equivalent would be
Speaker 1: when I got to college. But these Nazi soldiers, what
Speaker 1: they would do is they would remember, these Jewish people
Speaker 1: were hungry, they weren't treated well. They were as good
Speaker 1: as dead, six million of them, exterminated off the face
Speaker 1: of the planet, systematically exterminated. This man wanted to wipe
Speaker 1: the Jewish faith from the planet entirely, sick faith and ethnicity. Sure, sure, exactly, so,
Speaker 1: they weren't well fed. They arrive at these concentration camps,
Speaker 1: you know, and my understanding, if I remember correctly, is
Speaker 1: they did some work here and there, but for the
Speaker 1: most part they were gassed and discarded, their their bodies discarded.
Speaker 1: But while they were being held I remember this distinctly.
Speaker 1: The soldiers what they would do, because you do have
Speaker 1: to provide some sustenance unless you want them, to know,
Speaker 1: be too weak to be of any value too. Yes,
Speaker 1: So the German soldiers what they would do is they
Speaker 1: would take bread, and they would throw bread into like
Speaker 1: the cells and the and the holding pins where these
Speaker 1: very skinny, very weak people were being held, and then
Speaker 1: they would fight over the bread and sorry, they they
Speaker 1: would fight each other, and I don't think that's fair
Speaker 1: because you know, I don't think that they really wanted
Speaker 1: to fight each other. I think they were hungry. And
Speaker 1: I think that that's a human No. I think that's
Speaker 1: anything with a nervous system and survival instincts. That's that's
Speaker 1: kind of you're forced into that. That's effectively what that is.
Speaker 1: You're forced to take that action. And that's not fair
Speaker 1: and that's not kind. And you know, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you've listened to the show. You know me, I'm I
Speaker 1: try my best to be fair and I try my
Speaker 1: best to be kind. So those are that's what I
Speaker 1: teach my children. That's the best I got. So if
Speaker 1: you take that example and you you know, bring it
Speaker 1: over here to this country and you look at these
Speaker 1: really impoverished communities or oftentimes my people, our people live
Speaker 1: and then, you know, in the eighties, when these terms
Speaker 1: were kind of first being popularized in this country, there
Speaker 1: was issues with with drugs being brought into black communities,
Speaker 1: Compton specifically where I lived. I was born in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty two, so the timeline checks out. I was there
Speaker 1: and I saw it with these eyes right here, those
Speaker 1: sorts of things, deliberate, systemic things, exacerbated the poverty, and
Speaker 1: then you end up with these now criminals doing criminal activity, okay,
Speaker 1: and then you start to realize that, you know, just
Speaker 1: like the Jews, the environment creates the criminals. They're not
Speaker 1: born bad, right, and the people harmed by that are
Speaker 1: the people closest to them. Have you ever heard of
Speaker 1: Jew on jew? Cute?
Speaker 3: You've never heard of any other group of people in
Speaker 3: the history of Earth on you know.
Speaker 1: Sub it's hard to get it out and enter into.
Speaker 3: The argument a synonym for themselves on themselves crime? You've
Speaker 3: never heard of it.
Speaker 1: Ever.
Speaker 3: The only such instance in the history of the planet
Speaker 3: Earth is black on black crime.
Speaker 1: So the reason why black on black crime was popularized
Speaker 1: is because in the eighties when Ronald Reagan and Reaganomics was,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of sweeping the nation, these very conservative, very.
Speaker 3: It's hard to keep saying racist. I don't because I
Speaker 3: don't want to try to look for synonyms. I don't
Speaker 3: want to say try to give you something else. But
Speaker 3: you know what it is, you very very clearly that
Speaker 3: here's what it is.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: A lot of institutions white supremacy. There's no exception will
Speaker 1: protect themselves. They will refuse to deal with the reality
Speaker 1: we just talked about police not not being accountable, not
Speaker 1: being honorable as much as they could be. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, the same is true with really big parts
Speaker 1: of this country, big parts of this country. Rather than saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, we have historically done wrong to this
Speaker 1: group of people, and we continue to do wrong to
Speaker 1: this group of people, and we continue to benefit from
Speaker 1: the wrongs that we are still doing to this group
Speaker 1: of people, rather than coming to terms with that, it's
Speaker 1: easier to say, no, let's spin a narrative that suggests
Speaker 1: that these people are doing it to themselves. And that's
Speaker 1: something that's different from what happened in Germany. This is
Speaker 1: why you've never heard of jew on jew crime, right.
Speaker 1: But if you come to this country and they, you know,
Speaker 1: throw the scraps into the pen or the ghetto or whatever,
Speaker 1: and we're left to fight over what little resources are
Speaker 1: there and we're all trying to and then of course
Speaker 1: right down the street. You know, the component is California
Speaker 1: is a strange place because you can drive ten minutes
Speaker 1: in any direction and be either in a million dollar
Speaker 1: neighborhood or on a beach or in the slums or
Speaker 1: you know, skid row. It's all you know right there,
Speaker 1: right for those who haven't been out there or don't
Speaker 1: know about California or southern California at least. So you're
Speaker 1: right around the people, but the haves, and if your
Speaker 1: have not, then you know your aspirations may get the
Speaker 1: best of you. Now that's not to say that you know,
Speaker 1: black people are going to go out to Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: and you know whatever. No, it's typically the circumstances are
Speaker 1: a little bit more dire than that.
Speaker 3: Not just not just that though, it's not just close proximity, right,
Speaker 3: it's also a failure of accountability. When the quote unquote
Speaker 3: black on black crime happens, those protecting servers are far
Speaker 3: less likely to protect and or serve. They know, if
Speaker 3: they cross into Beverly Hills, the stakes get higher, the
Speaker 3: level of scrutiny and accountability and attention, it's higher. Those
Speaker 3: people over in that zip code with that money and
Speaker 3: that complexion get a different type of protection and attention
Speaker 3: from those who sign up for that job. So those
Speaker 3: that look like us are left to fit for themselves. Right,
Speaker 3: and since I'm less likely to even be investigated. When
Speaker 3: I'm a criminal and I'm doing crime where I live
Speaker 3: and where the people around me are also poor, this
Speaker 3: is where I'm going to do my criminal activities. I'm not,
Speaker 3: by nature of my skin color, a criminal, but by
Speaker 3: nature of the circumstances I was born into, with an
Speaker 3: entire system working to keep me in those circumstances. So
Speaker 3: that those who have also, always, I'm sorry, benefited from
Speaker 3: this system will continue to and their prosperity and their
Speaker 3: children and the generations after them will continue to benefit
Speaker 3: from said system. It is in their best interest to
Speaker 3: keep us right where we've always been and to never
Speaker 3: acknowledge the foot that is on our throat, because they
Speaker 3: want to present themselves as decent people. So they can't
Speaker 3: say out loud, we're sorry for not only what our
Speaker 3: forefathers did to you, but what we continue to do
Speaker 3: to you today. They have to be able to tell
Speaker 3: their children that they're decent people. Those people over their honey,
Speaker 3: they do that to themselves.
Speaker 1: Just look at the news now. I'm glad you brought
Speaker 1: that up, because that disconnect is, or rather these people
Speaker 1: being able to insulate themselves from what is effectively a
Speaker 1: shared problem is kind of what has allowed this myth
Speaker 1: to persist? Share this kind Well, it's it's a societal problem,
Speaker 1: but they can insulate themselves from it. But it's based
Speaker 1: on society, you know, just not based on an individual
Speaker 1: group of people just being bad. And I do want
Speaker 1: to say this because I know some folks will say it.
Speaker 1: You know, cues from Detroit, let them set them.
Speaker 3: To be a seven for anybody that's listening.
Speaker 1: If you know anything about that, you know that that's
Speaker 1: where it goes down. And again, I'm from Compton, California,
Speaker 1: and we yes have done okay, right, I gotta say this,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta say it.
Speaker 3: We've done it. We did okay.
Speaker 1: But if you look at I mean, we can just
Speaker 1: say the names Detroit, Michigan, Compton, California, you already know
Speaker 1: that everybody doesn't make it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: This is why us being here, having these types of
Speaker 1: stories to tell matters so much more.
Speaker 3: This is an interesting thing that we haven't touched on.
Speaker 3: And any time that we've talked about this that I
Speaker 3: think we should, I've heard said out loud by people
Speaker 3: who were sincerely and genuinely upset. How come black lives
Speaker 3: only have worth when they're taken by non black people.
Speaker 3: And ironically, every time in my life that I've heard
Speaker 3: that rhetoric and that form of questioning, it's been from
Speaker 3: someone who looks just like you.
Speaker 1: Can I answer that question because I got the answer,
Speaker 1: yes you can, But give me a second, all right.
Speaker 3: It is a failure to understand that the criminal is
Speaker 3: not the criminal because you look like you. And that
Speaker 3: would be the very short, concise and specific answer. Right.
Speaker 3: The circumstances, the criminal behavior, the lives being taken in
Speaker 3: these situations are not being taken because they're black.
Speaker 1: That's the difference I want to add to that. Please, Okay.
Speaker 1: The other part that I want to add is if
Speaker 1: police officer comes into your community executes black person unnecessarily,
Speaker 1: it's not they don't have to be unarmed. It's legal
Speaker 1: to carry guns in this country. But let's say an
Speaker 1: unarmed black person.
Speaker 3: Don't don't qualify it. Please don't for me, for men,
Speaker 3: I won't. You're right, don't qualify.
Speaker 1: It, just unnecessarily terminate because we've watched them get arrested
Speaker 1: with assault rifles.
Speaker 3: Sault qualifier for us.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the police does that, we feel as though
Speaker 1: there's no chance for accountability, and the community feels like
Speaker 1: our lives don't matter. If a black person, non police
Speaker 1: kills a black person, there's the chance for justice and accountabilities,
Speaker 1: especially if it's on video. So bear that in mind.
Speaker 1: I want to read this before we move on. Activists
Speaker 1: and academics who say black on black crime, who say
Speaker 1: that black on black crime is an offensive phrase and
Speaker 1: it has its origins rooted in America's racist legacy, and
Speaker 1: it's meant to mean black people as criminally inclined. Some
Speaker 1: also say it's misleading. White people are mainly killed by
Speaker 1: white people, they say, but there is no conversation about
Speaker 1: white on white crime. The idea that black people kill
Speaker 1: each other is exceptional or something that can only be
Speaker 1: fixed by black people is deeply rooted in White supremacists
Speaker 1: passed the specific notion of black on black crime gain
Speaker 1: Traction in a book published in eighteen ninety six entitled
Speaker 1: Race Traits and the Tendencies of the American Negro And
Speaker 1: then I want to read this right here. The Bureau
Speaker 1: of Justice Statistics twenty nineteen Crime Victimization Statistics Report shows
Speaker 1: that those who commit violent acts tend to commit them
Speaker 1: against members of the same race as the offender. So
Speaker 1: that's all stats that paints the picture. There's no such
Speaker 1: thing as black on black crime. If there is, then
Speaker 1: there's a whatever on whatever crime across the board. So
Speaker 1: do not single black people out or otherwise. It's not
Speaker 1: a thing. Moving on, sound for the way Black History
Speaker 1: fact brought to you by Hip Hop Weekly Magazine. This
Speaker 1: one comes from thoughtcode dot com and we are going
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the three fifths compromise.
Speaker 1: So at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, delegates agreed that
Speaker 1: the representation each state received in the House of Representatives
Speaker 1: and the Electoral College would be based on population, but
Speaker 1: the issue of slavery was the sticking point between the
Speaker 1: South and the North. Obviously, this is in the origins
Speaker 1: of this country. It benefited southern states to include enslaved
Speaker 1: people in their population counts, as that calculation would give
Speaker 1: them more seats in the House of Representatives and thus
Speaker 1: more political power. Delegates from northern states, however, objected on
Speaker 1: the grounds that enslaved people could not vote, own property,
Speaker 1: or take advantage of privileges that white men enjoyed. None
Speaker 1: of the lawmakers called for the end of slavery, but
Speaker 1: some of the representatives did express their discomfort with it.
Speaker 1: George Mason of Virginia called for anti slave trade laws,
Speaker 1: and Governor Morris of New York called slavery a nefarious institution. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: the delegates who objected to enslavement as an institution ignore
Speaker 1: their moral qualms in favor of unifying states, thus leading
Speaker 1: to the creation of the three fifths Compromise, first introduced
Speaker 1: by James Wilson and Roger Sherman on June eleven, seventeen
Speaker 1: eighty seven. To three fifths compromise counted enslaved people as
Speaker 1: three fits of a person. Black people were three fits
Speaker 1: of a person legally by law. It's written down.
Speaker 3: To talk about what's legal and what's criminal.
Speaker 1: This agreement meant that the Southern states got more electoral
Speaker 1: votes than if the enslaved population hadn't been counted at all,
Speaker 1: but fewer votes than if the enslaved population had been
Speaker 1: fully counted. The text of the compromise, found in Article one,
Speaker 1: Section two of the Constitution states, quote, Representatives and direct
Speaker 1: taxes shall be apportioned among several states which may be
Speaker 1: included within this Union according to their perspective. Sorry their
Speaker 1: respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the
Speaker 1: whole number of free persons, including those bound to service
Speaker 1: for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed,
Speaker 1: three fifths of all other persons. The compromising not well
Speaker 1: slavery was a reality, but did not meaningfully address the
Speaker 1: evils of the institution. In fact, the delegates passed not
Speaker 1: only the three fifths Compromise, but also a constitutional clause
Speaker 1: that allowed enslavers to quote reclaim enslaved people who sought
Speaker 1: freedom by characterizing them as fugitives. This clause criminalized the
Speaker 1: enslaved individuals who ran away in quest of their freedom.
Speaker 1: How the compromise affected politics in the nineteenth century, the
Speaker 1: three fifths Compromise had a major impact on US politics
Speaker 1: for decades to come. It allowed pro slavery states to
Speaker 1: have a disproportionate influence on the presidency, the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: and other positions of power. It also resulted in the
Speaker 1: country having a roughly equal number of states deposed and
Speaker 1: favored enslavement. Some historians contend that major events in US
Speaker 1: history would have had the opposite outcomes were it not
Speaker 1: for the Three fifths Compromise, including the election of Thomas
Speaker 1: Jefferson in eighteen hundred, the Missouri Compromise of eighteen twenty,
Speaker 1: which allowed Missouri to enter the Union as a pro
Speaker 1: slavery state, the Indian Removal Active eighteen thirty, in which
Speaker 1: indigenous peoples were forcibly removed from their land, and the
Speaker 1: Kansas Nebraska Active eighteen fifty four, which allowed residents to
Speaker 1: determine for themselves whether they wanted to allow the enslavement
Speaker 1: of black people in their territories. Real quick, I want
Speaker 1: to shout this out. We are broadcasting this show from
Speaker 1: the unseated ancestral lands of the Akima and Odam peoples.
Speaker 1: So shout out to our brothers and sisters whose land
Speaker 1: this belongs to them. Altogether, the Three Fists Compromise had
Speaker 1: a detrimental impact on vulnerable populations such as the enslaved
Speaker 1: and the nation's indigenous peoples. The enslavement of black people
Speaker 1: may have only been kept in check rather than allowed
Speaker 1: to spread without it, and fewer indigenous peoples may have
Speaker 1: had their way of life upended to tragic results by
Speaker 1: removal policies. The Thirteenth Amendment effectively gutted the Three Fits
Speaker 1: Compromise by outlonging the enslavement of black people. But when
Speaker 1: the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified in eighteen sixty eight, it
Speaker 1: officially repealed the three Fists compromise. Section two of the
Speaker 1: of the Amendment states that seats in the House of
Speaker 1: Representatives were to be determined based on the whole number
Speaker 1: of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. The
Speaker 1: repeal of the compromise gave the South moore representation since
Speaker 1: members of the formerly enslaved black population were now counted fully.
Speaker 1: Yet this population continued to be denied full benefits of citizenship.
Speaker 1: The South enacted laws such as grandfather clauses meant to
Speaker 1: disenfranchise black people, even as their population gave them more
Speaker 1: influence in Congress. The additional voting power not only gave
Speaker 1: Southern states more seats in the House, but more electorals too.
Speaker 1: Real quick. The grandfather clauses meant that if your grandfather
Speaker 1: didn't vote in an election, that meant that you couldn't
Speaker 1: vote in an election, so of course black people didn't
Speaker 1: get to vote. Congress members from other regions sought to
Speaker 1: reduce the South's voting power because black people were being
Speaker 1: stripped of their voting rights there, but a nineteen hundred
Speaker 1: proposal to do so never materialize. Ironically, this is because
Speaker 1: the South had too much representation in Congress to allow
Speaker 1: for a switch. Until as recently as the nineteen s sixties,
Speaker 1: Southern Democrats known as Dixiecrats, continued to wield a disproportionate
Speaker 1: amount of power in Congress. This power was based in
Speaker 1: part on the black residents who were counted for the
Speaker 1: purposes of representation, but who were prevented from voting through
Speaker 1: grandfather clauses and other laws that threatened their livelihoods and
Speaker 1: even their lives. The Dixiecratcrats used the power they had
Speaker 1: in Congress to block attempts to make the South a
Speaker 1: more equitable place, which still happens today check out redlining right. Eventually, however,
Speaker 1: federal legislations such as the Civil Rights Act in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty four and the Voting Rights Act nineteen sixty five
Speaker 1: would thwart their efforts somewhat. During the Civil Rights Movement,
Speaker 1: black Americans demanded the right to vote and ultimately became
Speaker 1: an influential voting block. They have helped a slow of
Speaker 1: black political candidates get elected in the South of nationally
Speaker 1: including the nation's first black president, Barack Obama, demonstrating the
Speaker 1: significance of their full representation. So three fists compromise. There
Speaker 1: it is. And I worry that you're not taught these
Speaker 1: things in school and life, and that you might not
Speaker 1: know how that affects the psyche, the self concept, the
Speaker 1: self worth, the self image, all of these things together.
Speaker 1: The police can kill us and get away with it,
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