Speaker 1: We've just coming off of the BT Awards, right, and
Speaker 1: some folks were looking flawless. Yes, east Ray always looks good,
Speaker 1: not always always. You know, they're a called Gina Regina,
Speaker 1: Regina Hall. Is she aging no backwards Benjamin? But yes, Forrell,
Speaker 1: that's somebody who I want to by God. Forrell, Pharrell
Speaker 1: is sixty thousand years old, okay, oldest time. And that
Speaker 1: man looks like he has a new fresh layer skin
Speaker 1: every day. Yep. Also side note, we still haven't seen
Speaker 1: those triplets show us the babies. But yeah, Forrell, I
Speaker 1: feel like Will Smith has really good skin. Jada has
Speaker 1: really good Skada has very good skin. You know who
Speaker 1: else has very good skin? Gabrielle Union? Yes, oh, Gabrielle
Speaker 1: Union is without flaw on that face. She's showing us
Speaker 1: the workout routine. Why won't she show us her skincare
Speaker 1: drop the skincare routine, Gabby? You know who else? I
Speaker 1: like to see who? Tracey Yell is ross she but
Speaker 1: she posts a lot. Yeah, okay, So she was jade rolling.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well, now I gotta purchase the
Speaker 1: jade roller. She was doing this other one that looked
Speaker 1: like it had like spokes in it, and she was
Speaker 1: rolling on her face. I was like, well, now I
Speaker 1: have to go get that. She always has a face
Speaker 1: mask on, she's always doing like some massages. I just
Speaker 1: do whatever she's doing. But it don't it don't turn
Speaker 1: out the same. You do not use it because my
Speaker 1: products ain't right. Sometimes I feel like it's the products.
Speaker 1: And I used to really be into the makeup and
Speaker 1: I realized, hey, that makeup is no good of that
Speaker 1: skin underneath there is not right. I'm t T and
Speaker 1: I'm Zachiah and from Spotify Studios. This is Dope Labs.
Speaker 1: So today we're talking about skin and we're covering all
Speaker 1: things skin. Skin that's too dry, skin that's probably too oily,
Speaker 1: skin that is loose and hanging down some Yeah, there's that.
Speaker 1: How skin you're trying to tighten up, skin, you want
Speaker 1: to plump, skin, you want to rejuvenate, Yeah, how to
Speaker 1: protect it? How do if you got skin that's good,
Speaker 1: how do you keep just that skin? How do you
Speaker 1: keep that skin intact? Not just on your face, on
Speaker 1: your arms and legs too. Because some of y'all not
Speaker 1: washing them. We heard about it, and this isn't an
Speaker 1: episode just for women. This episode is for everybody. Contrary
Speaker 1: to probably believe, skincare is something that's important to all
Speaker 1: of us. Don't think just because you have a beard
Speaker 1: that's enough. It's not. It's not. So what do you
Speaker 1: put on your face to try and achieve a glove?
Speaker 1: I have a whole body routine, okay, and some of
Speaker 1: this stuff. I know you know how wild it is
Speaker 1: because you've been with me from the Yes, from the inception.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: When I first was like, we can make body scrub
Speaker 1: with the coffee ground from the kitchen. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: had some hyper pigmentation on my legs and the kid.
Speaker 1: I was like, this stuff ain't never gonna go away,
Speaker 1: and the kid said, oh, yes, it will come into
Speaker 1: the kitchen. Friend and she made a whole mason jar
Speaker 1: full of it was like coffee grounds, coconut oil, some
Speaker 1: other sof like essentral olsche. The show notes she's gonna
Speaker 1: drop the recipe. I'm gonna cook you' all up. And
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is my friend's stuff. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try it. And so every night I would use
Speaker 1: this coffee scrub on my legs. It was so good,
Speaker 1: It was so good. It was probably one of the
Speaker 1: best body scrubs I have ever owned in my life,
Speaker 1: and it was free. I got it from my friend.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, that hyperpigmentation I had
Speaker 1: on my legs gone scrub it away, it away. I
Speaker 1: don't even really understand how that works, because I felt
Speaker 1: like I was doing all the right things and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Takia shows up with this, this
Speaker 1: magical jar of elixir. Yeah, it changed my life. And
Speaker 1: I'd like to just point out, you know, this may
Speaker 1: feel similar to another story you've heard about t t
Speaker 1: giving me instructions on my home. Okay, well it is different,
Speaker 1: okay to know, but okay, so she's talking about how
Speaker 1: she how she made that banana bread in her in
Speaker 1: her hair, and so if you haven't heard the story,
Speaker 1: go back to Lab two Edges Snatched and you will
Speaker 1: hear the banana breadhead story. But what I also want
Speaker 1: to note again is that I just mentioned it in passing.
Speaker 1: I didn't tell her to go do it. I didn't say, oh,
Speaker 1: this would be so good for you. I said this
Speaker 1: is what I heard. I hear a lot of things,
Speaker 1: and I was just telling her what I had heard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's on me, really got to evaluate your sources, you know, too,
Speaker 1: trusting to trusting You can trust me, No I can.
Speaker 1: So I think you know, I'm going on vacation in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and I feel like I haven't
Speaker 1: been on a vacation that is like not working, not
Speaker 1: doing some type of something related to work, in a
Speaker 1: really long time. Yeah, that's very true. And so I'm
Speaker 1: ready to but before I can unplug, I need to
Speaker 1: get some glow first, And so started with my face.
Speaker 1: I have been doing these using this face wash that
Speaker 1: has it's supposed to be an exfoliating face wash, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't have any grains or gristle or whatever it
Speaker 1: is happening. That's not like a physical exfoliant. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a chemical face wash. And so I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: careful because when you do that stuff, you know, it
Speaker 1: makes your sensitive to the sun. So then I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: now I got up my my SPF and put on
Speaker 1: some sunscreen because I'm ount in the sun more. And
Speaker 1: you put me onto some sunscreen so that I don't
Speaker 1: look like cass for the ghost, right, Because that's what
Speaker 1: you don't realize, well that a lot of people don't realize,
Speaker 1: is that white cast that that sunscreen puts on you,
Speaker 1: fifty shades of gray? It makes it makes black people
Speaker 1: look crazy. Yes, and we want to be protected from
Speaker 1: the sun too, and we always have to sacrifice looking
Speaker 1: like our regular selves and then we look like we're
Speaker 1: cast get ready, Yes, and when we have that yeah,
Speaker 1: when we have that sunscreen on. So there's a sunscreen
Speaker 1: that is called Black Girl's Sunscreen that is made by
Speaker 1: a black woman and it is so sheer and it
Speaker 1: is so moisturizing, so that I swear by it. That's
Speaker 1: what I use over my whole body. Yes, So doing
Speaker 1: that exfoliating, getting all that winter skin off, washing my
Speaker 1: troubles away, and then putting on SPF and then you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take you'll all into the serums and moisturizers.
Speaker 1: But if you've been following me on Instagram, you've seen
Speaker 1: me do a face mask routine. And then for the body,
Speaker 1: you gotta have a whole body scrub and you really
Speaker 1: got to hit those elbows and knees. Those are tough areas.
Speaker 1: I know you feel the dead skin is not like
Speaker 1: the other skin, so you need to do something different.
Speaker 1: I have one of those exfoliating sheets. I'll do a
Speaker 1: scrub and then come back with a sheet. It's like
Speaker 1: coarse it's like coarse sandpaper. And then fine, right, I'm
Speaker 1: coming back to really smooth out those those patches exactly.
Speaker 1: And I'm the same way. So I instead of a sheet,
Speaker 1: I have a body brush. So I have one for
Speaker 1: pre shower. So I do a dry scrub of my
Speaker 1: body drybrush to just get like all the dead skin up.
Speaker 1: Then I shower, and then while I'm in the shower,
Speaker 1: I have another softer brush that I put soap on,
Speaker 1: and I use that again all over my body to
Speaker 1: really get all that dead skin off. Yes, and in
Speaker 1: the age of not taking a shower, not scrubbing your legs,
Speaker 1: it's important to really you know, people have been talking
Speaker 1: about this thing, and so I think we really need to.
Speaker 1: Chosa said, she shaves her legs and that's washing her legs.
Speaker 1: I ain't washing it, No, that's not but I'm like dirty, dirty,
Speaker 1: and what about your ankle's boot? Like, so I think
Speaker 1: you gotta think about that. My God, I believe in
Speaker 1: scrubbing all of those areas. And then I have like
Speaker 1: a pumming stone even for scrubbing under my nails. I
Speaker 1: have a little brush at my sink in my house
Speaker 1: to just really but you gotta get that stuff out
Speaker 1: from mother there. Yeah, under my nails. I have a
Speaker 1: whole meal under my nails right now. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get you a brush. Don't worry, by a friend, thank you.
Speaker 1: So this episode is gon to be a little bit
Speaker 1: different and a whole lot of fun. Yes, so our
Speaker 1: guest for today is not a scientist, but she is
Speaker 1: an expert. Yes. The authority, the absolute authority, So everything
Speaker 1: she says, take it as bible. Yeah, so we have
Speaker 1: the authority on all things skincare, so we're gonna handle
Speaker 1: the science T T. I always go to you whenever
Speaker 1: there is anything listed in my skincare and I'm like,
Speaker 1: does this really work? It says nanoparticles. Is that true? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I will be covering everything that has to do
Speaker 1: with the nano materials that are that is in skincare
Speaker 1: and some of the chemistry and Zakia. I always go
Speaker 1: to you if it's if it has anything to do
Speaker 1: with something that has a cell, which is all skin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm asking Zekiah because I'm like, I don't know how
Speaker 1: this works. It's saying that it's gonna renew my skin.
Speaker 1: Is that possible? Let's get to it. Let's jump into
Speaker 1: the recitation, all right, So we're gonna start off with
Speaker 1: all things skincare. You gotta understand skin first. Most of
Speaker 1: you have skin, okay, and so your skin is made
Speaker 1: of three major layers. There's the epidermis, which is the
Speaker 1: top layer that's exposed to the air and everything else.
Speaker 1: Beneath the epidermist is the dermis or what you'll hear
Speaker 1: people call the dermal layer. And then underneath that is
Speaker 1: subcutaneous fat. So the epidermis is really a thin layer.
Speaker 1: It's that top layer, and then the dermist is the
Speaker 1: second layer under that, and it's a lot thicker, and
Speaker 1: that's where like your hair follicles and sweat glands are.
Speaker 1: You might remember us talking about that in Lap two
Speaker 1: as well. And then underneath the dermist is the subcutaneous fat.
Speaker 1: And actually in the subcutaneous fat layer, it has connective
Speaker 1: tissues that keeps your dermis like, so it keeps the
Speaker 1: skin that we see attached to your muscles and bones. Underneath,
Speaker 1: you lose that fat and that's when you start to
Speaker 1: get droopy. Droopy. I was like, snoopy, that's not right.
Speaker 1: You get your skin looking droopy and saggy. So one
Speaker 1: important thing that is a part of your skin is
Speaker 1: collagen and it's found in all three of them those
Speaker 1: layers that Zakia was talking about. And collagen is the
Speaker 1: most abundant protein in your whole entire body, and it
Speaker 1: plays a major role in your skin, your muscles, your ligaments,
Speaker 1: and tendon Collagen fibers they give support. So collagen is
Speaker 1: one of those major support proteins. But also elastin. So
Speaker 1: people often talk about skin elasticity to give your skin
Speaker 1: flexibility and strength. So collagen and elastin are two kind
Speaker 1: of major components of keeping that skin looking healthy. So
Speaker 1: let's talk about what we have questions about. I want
Speaker 1: to know what are the chemicals that are in some
Speaker 1: of these products and are they truly beneficial? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: want to know what is the what's the cheat code? Right?
Speaker 1: What do I need to do for just baseline glowy, dewey,
Speaker 1: healthy skin. Right. I know I'll never look like Isa,
Speaker 1: I'll never have those cheek bones, but I want to
Speaker 1: try and get as close as I can. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so I want all the tips and tricks. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want that. So one of the things I want to
Speaker 1: know is there are a lot of Instagram skincare companies.
Speaker 1: Is some of this stuff fake? Like what's just a fad?
Speaker 1: And what's real? What do I really need? And what
Speaker 1: could I do without? And then if we know we're
Speaker 1: losing certain components of our skin as we age, how
Speaker 1: do we add them back? Can you just add them
Speaker 1: back with a multi vitamin or should you be you know,
Speaker 1: spreading it on what's the best way do I need
Speaker 1: to ingest this vitamin or do I need to lay
Speaker 1: it on top of me a vitamin blanket, a vitamin
Speaker 1: need blanket, a collagen blank that's that I need to
Speaker 1: be sleeping with. So another thing that I want to
Speaker 1: know is how our skin interacts with the outside environment,
Speaker 1: Like how does the air like like when you live
Speaker 1: in like a drier climate or more humid climate like here,
Speaker 1: how does that affect your skin?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And are there even long are there long term effects?
Speaker 1: Should I be living somewhere different if I want this
Speaker 1: skin to be dewey? All I know is that DC
Speaker 1: two human and I gotta get out of here. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's get into the di Section and four Today's
Speaker 1: lab we have the Joanna Simpkin.
Speaker 2: Hi, this is Joanna Simpkin and I'm a makeup artist.
Speaker 2: You can find me at Joannasimpkin dot com or my
Speaker 2: Instagram is Joinna Simpkin or my Twitter, where I'm very
Speaker 2: unfiltered is Joanna Simpkin. And that's j O A N
Speaker 2: N A S I M K I N Yes.
Speaker 1: If you don't know who Joanna Simpkin is, go straight
Speaker 1: to Instagram right now and put in Joanna Simkin or
Speaker 1: just hashtag Joanna Simpkin and look at all of the
Speaker 1: people that she's done makeup for. She's done makeup for
Speaker 1: everyone you know and love.
Speaker 3: I work with Ray all the time. Who we love.
Speaker 2: I work with Zaan Malik formerly One Direction, Willow Smith's
Speaker 2: Kerry Washington stormread.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Ray on that Essence cover. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Issa looked flawless in that spread, and Joanna just has
Speaker 1: this really beautiful of just enhancing what is already there,
Speaker 1: Like Isa Ray is a beautiful woman, and she didn't
Speaker 1: like make her look not like herself. She just like
Speaker 1: really knows how to place that stuff and just make
Speaker 1: you shine.
Speaker 2: I would never want you to run into Issa in
Speaker 2: the grocery store and be like, I did not even
Speaker 2: recognize you, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like that is crazy.
Speaker 2: And I generally feel like all my clients, like I
Speaker 2: don't like to see a ton of compliments under my
Speaker 2: client's pictures of I love your makeup, Like I like
Speaker 2: sometimes like oh I love the eyes, or that's a
Speaker 2: great lip color. But like my favorite thing, not that
Speaker 2: Lisa doesn't have beautiful skin, but my favorite comment under
Speaker 2: her pictures is like drop the skincare routine, sis, And
Speaker 2: I'm like, thank you, good good. I want you guys
Speaker 2: to think that she's got like a tap of foundation
Speaker 2: on and that's just her skin. And she does have
Speaker 2: beautiful skin, but you know what I mean, Like I'm
Speaker 2: just like that's what I That's the type of comments
Speaker 2: I like to see.
Speaker 1: She also works with Regina Hall, Marseille Martin, Hannah Brofman.
Speaker 1: Hannah Brofman yep, So who else would I go to
Speaker 1: for all the Black Girl Magic skincare? Unlock the vault
Speaker 1: and show me what's inside.
Speaker 2: I am obsessed with skincare, and I get a lot
Speaker 2: sent to me. So it's funny because they say you
Speaker 2: should kind of like try something for like thirty days
Speaker 2: to really see how your skin. And I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: such a skincare whore, but I do find things that
Speaker 2: I love and I'll stick with them.
Speaker 1: We asked Joanna, what is the key skincare routine? And
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna break it down. We're gonna give
Speaker 1: you the science behind all of it. Buckle up, what
Speaker 1: is the first step?
Speaker 3: I used to just wash my face?
Speaker 2: And then I realized that like actually removing the makeup
Speaker 2: before you wash is so important. Like mysoler water, to
Speaker 2: my knowledge, is oil like suspended in water. So it's
Speaker 2: like a less oily version was still the action of
Speaker 2: an oil breakdown of makeup. I really love the Bioderma one,
Speaker 2: but I've gotten them from multiple brands, and I just
Speaker 2: love the biodermo one.
Speaker 3: I think it just takes off everything.
Speaker 1: My solar water. It is oil and water. Inside of
Speaker 1: that water, you have my cells. That's what your oil is.
Speaker 1: And a my cell is made up of surfactant molecules,
Speaker 1: and our surfactin molecules have a hydrophilic head and a
Speaker 1: hydrophobic tail, and so you have all these molecules that
Speaker 1: are in this water. And the hydrophobic part of it,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't like water. They all aggregate together and
Speaker 1: form this sphere that's called a miceell. Then you introduce
Speaker 1: dirt by putting the mysolar water on your skin, those
Speaker 1: hydrophobic tails attached to all the dirt, and then the
Speaker 1: micell reforms into that sphere and takes the dirt away.
Speaker 1: So what you're getting rid of is a my cell
Speaker 1: with the dirt trapped inside. The dirt's trapped inside the sphere.
Speaker 1: Some of y'all are just using these mysolar water on
Speaker 1: a cotton ball and jumping right in the bed and
Speaker 1: thinking that's enough. That's not quite it. There's another step.
Speaker 1: There are a couple more steps. So Joanna says that
Speaker 1: after your mysolar water comes the cleanser.
Speaker 2: I prefer general cleanser. I used to use more harsh
Speaker 2: when I was younger and my skin was a little
Speaker 2: more oily. Now I find I like a mild cleanser
Speaker 2: right now. I've been using this like shs shado while
Speaker 2: so one that's like it's I think like honey in it.
Speaker 2: It's like really hydrating. Muskin just feels really fresh when
Speaker 2: I'm done with it.
Speaker 1: And with cleanser. It works kind of like the micellar water,
Speaker 1: but the cleanser probably has different components. Yeah, so probably
Speaker 1: some strong, some combination of surfactant molecules. So a combination
Speaker 1: of molecules that are gonna help you get even more
Speaker 1: dirt off and really down into those poor Yeah, so
Speaker 1: use those circular motions, y'all. So now we've hit getting
Speaker 1: all the dirt off of your face. But now we're
Speaker 1: get into something that you talked about t T renewing
Speaker 1: that skin. So I think there's something that we really
Speaker 1: take for granted, and that's making new skin cells. Our
Speaker 1: body makes new skin cells from the bottom of an
Speaker 1: epidermis layer and then they just travel up to the
Speaker 1: top and they flake off. So that process from your
Speaker 1: skin cells making new skin cells at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the epidermis and traveling up to the top, that's about
Speaker 1: a month, right, And so one of the ways that
Speaker 1: people renuce skin is to exfoliate. They take that top
Speaker 1: layer of dead skin cells. How do they get it off?
Speaker 1: Exfoliation is the key. Yes, I need baby skin every day.
Speaker 2: People go back and forth about manual versus chemical exfoliation.
Speaker 2: I am a crazy person.
Speaker 3: I like both.
Speaker 2: I get these like little like egg shaped scrubber things
Speaker 2: like off Amazon, like a pack of twelve over like
Speaker 2: two dollars or whatever, and I'll use them for like
Speaker 2: a week or two until they completely lose their integrity.
Speaker 2: But I'll like also like put my cleanser in that
Speaker 2: and like really get into my pores. And I've done
Speaker 2: that since I was like fourteen, and I swear that's
Speaker 2: why I really really get pimples, because it really exfoliates
Speaker 2: for me. It might be too harsh for some people,
Speaker 2: so I'm not like saying everyone go do that, but
Speaker 2: exfoliating is key regardless.
Speaker 1: I only use chemical exfoliators, oh really, yeah, because the
Speaker 1: manual ones I felt like it was too like harsh,
Speaker 1: harsh on my skin. I felt like my pores are
Speaker 1: getting really big. It might've all been in my mind,
Speaker 1: but I only use chemical exfoliators. So sail like acid,
Speaker 1: hyaluronic acid, things like that, and I just lay that
Speaker 1: acid on my face sometimes I'll put it, I'll put
Speaker 1: my my cleanser on and I'll just let it sit
Speaker 1: on my face for five minutes before I wash it off.
Speaker 1: I really want that acid to get deep down in there.
Speaker 1: You know, I think acids get a bad rep because
Speaker 1: people think of acids and they start thinking about like
Speaker 1: battery acid, you know, or they're like, oh, chemicals, it's
Speaker 1: not good for me, right, And I think it's important
Speaker 1: for people to remember we are made of chemicals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: head to toe, head, ruda to the tuda. That's my
Speaker 1: favorite thing to say. So you know I mentioned AHA
Speaker 1: alphydroxy acid is derived from sugarcane, milk, almond grapes, is there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and there's even acids in like oranges and
Speaker 1: lemons and stuff like that that are also very good
Speaker 1: for the skin. And the way acids help you get
Speaker 1: rid of or particularly like AHA and BHA's help you
Speaker 1: get rid of your skin cell or help you exfoliate,
Speaker 1: is that those skin cells don't think of them as
Speaker 1: just sitting up there all alone, floating around. They're helping
Speaker 1: it to each other. Right, they're connected, so they're connected
Speaker 1: left to right, on each side of each other, and
Speaker 1: to the layer of skin cells that are beneath and
Speaker 1: so as is break down those connections between those skin
Speaker 1: cells and makes it easier for them to come off.
Speaker 3: After I wash.
Speaker 2: I will tone depending on if certain times in the month.
Speaker 2: I definitely need like a little more of like a
Speaker 2: pimple fighter, And I just love good old Nutrogena. They
Speaker 2: have one called Acne Stress Control, which I think is amazing,
Speaker 2: Like it really attacks like my hormonal breakouts.
Speaker 3: For like about I use it about.
Speaker 2: Eight days in the month, like we all know around
Speaker 2: the time that we're going to need to use it,
Speaker 2: and then the rest of the month sometimes I'll use
Speaker 2: I love like Fresh makes this rosewater toner, which is
Speaker 2: basically just like a hydrating cleansing. I don't know. It
Speaker 2: just feels like a really nice and refreshing and I
Speaker 2: do it on cotton cotton ball or cotton pat. It
Speaker 2: just kind of gets all the rest of the all
Speaker 2: of the residue off. And I also like to use
Speaker 2: reusable cotton pads because I really care about the environment,
Speaker 2: and I found out cotton is a very dirty crop,
Speaker 2: so I'm trying to really and if you think about it,
Speaker 2: most cotton comes in a plastic bag, so you're just
Speaker 2: creating a ton of waste.
Speaker 3: So yes, reusable cotton pads.
Speaker 2: The same thing for when I remove my makeup, I
Speaker 2: get these black microfiber ones so you don't see all
Speaker 2: the messcara on them, you throw them in the wash.
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 1: So toner is something that it's not one size fits all.
Speaker 1: You can't just walk into the store and just pick
Speaker 1: up any old toner and say this is going to
Speaker 1: work for me. It's really important to know your skin.
Speaker 1: One thing that all toners have in common is that
Speaker 1: they all have alcohol. And so what its main purpose
Speaker 1: is to do is to close up your pores and
Speaker 1: prep you for the next step. But depending on your
Speaker 1: skin type, you might be looking for other ingredients. Like
Speaker 1: if you have oily skin, you might want something that
Speaker 1: has like, say, like acid in it. If you have
Speaker 1: drier skin, you want something that's more moisturizing, So maybe
Speaker 1: you'll choose something that has rose water or something like
Speaker 1: that in it. But it really depends. A popular ingredient
Speaker 1: in toner is witch hazel, and sometimes people just use
Speaker 1: witch hazel itself as their toner. And this is an
Speaker 1: extract from a plant or an herb, and it has
Speaker 1: properties that have been shown to kind of be anti aging.
Speaker 1: And if you think back to what we said at
Speaker 1: the top, elastin and collagen are part of these There
Speaker 1: are these fibers that are in all the layers of
Speaker 1: your skin, but those things get broken down, and so
Speaker 1: which hazel has properties that prevent the breakdown of collagen
Speaker 1: and elastin and keep that skin looking tight. If you
Speaker 1: would have asked me where does which hazel come from?
Speaker 1: I would have been like, I don't know, probably some
Speaker 1: lady named Hazel that nobody liked, or something I've been
Speaker 1: seeing lately witch hazel blowing up. And I just bought
Speaker 1: at Target this little small travel bottle of which Hazel.
Speaker 1: That's like cucumber with hazel, and it smells like cucumber.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, is it I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: just cucumber fragrance or if does cucumber have properties? Well,
Speaker 1: you know people used to put cucumbers on their eyes
Speaker 1: in the older movies. They would have the cucumbers on
Speaker 1: the eyes at the spa. Maybe it's just bathing with chazel.
Speaker 1: It seems like that would be expensive and probably not good,
Speaker 1: not good for all skin. But it's pretty cool, right,
Speaker 1: This is really good because it shows like your skincare
Speaker 1: routine can be all natural. It's from Nearth, straight from
Speaker 1: those plants. I like it. Okay, So now we've gotten
Speaker 1: to the point where we have stripped ourselves all the
Speaker 1: way down. Our skin is completely clean. We're going to
Speaker 1: take a quick break and when we get back, we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about how to build your skin back up.
Speaker 1: And we're back now that our skin is clean, right,
Speaker 1: what do we need to put on our skin to
Speaker 1: get us to get that glow? Let's build it back up.
Speaker 2: I'm super into essence. A lot of people swear by
Speaker 2: the sk two one. I think it's like the biggest
Speaker 2: selling essence. It's pretty pricey. Fresh created one called the
Speaker 2: Black Tea and Kombucha Essence. I love the texture of it.
Speaker 2: It's a watery texture, but it leaves this like really soft,
Speaker 2: like your skin feels like a baby's butt.
Speaker 3: Literally.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I really like is when
Speaker 1: I have skincare that feels smooth or slippery, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, it's not all tacky, it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel crazy on my face. What material gives me that feeling?
Speaker 1: It's actually silicone, hmm, like silicone Valley silicone, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Silicone is what gives your moisturizers and vitamins
Speaker 1: that that extra slippery feeling. It's just the nature of
Speaker 1: that material. And it's really important to put those those
Speaker 1: types of moisturizers on first, the ones that are really
Speaker 1: slippery and wet, those should come in contact with your
Speaker 1: face first so that it can absorb all of those things.
Speaker 1: Because if you put on something that's way too heavy
Speaker 1: and then you try and put on the slippery, slick stuff,
Speaker 1: the lighter stuff, it won't penetrate through that thicker cream
Speaker 1: that you put on top. So start off with the slick,
Speaker 1: silicone based stuff and work your way to the heavy
Speaker 1: set and then word ahead, not putting basoline on and
Speaker 1: then putting on serums. It doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2: No, then I will go into my vitamins. So I
Speaker 2: love like either like a vitamin C. There's one I
Speaker 2: love from Sunday Riley called I think it's called CEO,
Speaker 2: which is like their vitamin C serum.
Speaker 1: Vitamin C is absorbic acid and it really helps with
Speaker 1: collagen synthesis. It helps with the elasticity, it helps with
Speaker 1: your skin looking like plump, but it also helps you
Speaker 1: look brighter.
Speaker 2: My thing for brightening in general, which would be like
Speaker 2: a vitamin C or some stronger ingredients like hydro keenone
Speaker 2: if you're having some discoloration. Are really good, especially like
Speaker 2: on brown skin, the hydro keenone, especially on everybody. I
Speaker 2: think vitamin C is like a great ingredient unless you
Speaker 2: are sensitive to it, which some people are.
Speaker 1: I just want to look like the sun walking around.
Speaker 1: I want to walk out my house and people be like,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what's happening. It's just me. It's just me.
Speaker 1: It's just me. I'm walking on sunshine. Whoa do you
Speaker 1: remember those wasn't an artist named vitamin C? Yeah, back
Speaker 1: when we were in like middle school or high school.
Speaker 1: It was the same woman that did that. She did
Speaker 1: the song, that graduation song. Yes, that everybody was playing. God,
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. So you can get
Speaker 1: vitamin C in a lot of different ways. You can
Speaker 1: use serums, you can use creams. Some people just sell
Speaker 1: concentrated vitamins and things like that. You could take pills.
Speaker 1: But one thing that I did that I don't know
Speaker 1: if it actually worked, but I was actually just taking
Speaker 1: lemons from the grocery store, squeezing them and then using
Speaker 1: a cotton pad and then rubbing lemon juice on my face.
Speaker 1: So I was getting that vitamin C direct to the
Speaker 1: skin straight from the source, and I felt like it
Speaker 1: was amazing. I felt like I looked great.
Speaker 3: You did.
Speaker 2: Then I'll do an I cream. There's a Shiitsado one
Speaker 2: that I love. I have to look up the name
Speaker 2: of it. It's in like a skinny white tube. I
Speaker 2: have to pull it up. But it's like my favorite
Speaker 2: I cream right now. And I like a I cream
Speaker 2: that's actually not too heavy. I think people go way
Speaker 2: too heavy on I cream and that's how you end
Speaker 2: up getting all the little milia, which are those little
Speaker 2: like hard bumps that you can kind of get around
Speaker 2: your eye. It's really delicate skin, and people will clog
Speaker 2: those pores with too heavy So people like these really
Speaker 2: rich I creams like I need moisture. I need moisture,
Speaker 2: and it's you need moisture, but like not to the
Speaker 2: level that you think you do and you're clogging.
Speaker 1: I remember a long time ago I read something that
Speaker 1: said that you should be putting your so you're not
Speaker 1: too rough with that. You should be putting your I
Speaker 1: cream on with your ring finger something where you don't
Speaker 1: have you know, we can press all hard with our
Speaker 1: index finger, but it's harder a little bit with your
Speaker 1: to press with your ring finger. For most people, I
Speaker 1: see you pressing pretty hard, though, Yeah, I don't feel
Speaker 1: a difference. I'm like press lightly so much that you're
Speaker 1: not even moving the rest of your hand. That's so light. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how you're supposed to be treating that area. It
Speaker 1: is tender. So a lot of I creams have stuff
Speaker 1: like caffeine, which actually can constrict blood vessels, so you
Speaker 1: won't see your blood vestis because the skin is so thin,
Speaker 1: so you can see blood vessels sometimes underneath people's eyes,
Speaker 1: particularly people with pale or skin HM. And so you
Speaker 1: get caffeine so you can kind of constrict those blood vessels.
Speaker 1: But that seems counterintuitive. I feel like I want the
Speaker 1: blood to flow. You know. I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to keep those blood vessels at one
Speaker 1: hundred percent capacity maximum flow through. So then maybe you
Speaker 1: shouldn't drink so much coffee. That's not what No, this is, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a different all right. Sorry. So the next step
Speaker 1: after that is hydration.
Speaker 2: I kind of rotate with my with my moisturizers depending
Speaker 2: on how my skin's feeling, and sometimes I'll add an
Speaker 2: oil into it if I feel really dry or like
Speaker 2: in the winter. There is a oil that I love
Speaker 2: called Supernol, which is like an antioxidant extreme glow oil.
Speaker 2: I love the feel, I love the smell, So sometimes
Speaker 2: I'll just use that as my moisture or sometimes I'll
Speaker 2: drop it into an additional moisturizer for like extreme moisture,
Speaker 2: and I rotate my moisturizers. I use Ciseado, I use philosophy.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just use all kinds of moisturizers land
Speaker 2: come mixed, really nice ones. But I'm a big fan
Speaker 2: of face oils in general, like if you really need
Speaker 2: the extra hydration, and just in general, I think not
Speaker 2: even if I think like people think I'm oily, I
Speaker 2: don't need to add oil, but oil.
Speaker 3: Is great for your skin in general.
Speaker 2: And like to that whole conversation about like mysolar and
Speaker 2: makeup remover, like oil does break down other oils. So
Speaker 2: sometimes by default, adding oil to oily skin is not
Speaker 2: going to make you oilier. It's actually gonna help control
Speaker 2: your oil because your skin's going to have oil on it.
Speaker 2: So the natural reaction for your oily skin is to
Speaker 2: send more oil to the top because it thinks you
Speaker 2: need it. But if the oil is already there. Your
Speaker 2: skin is not going to react that way. So sometimes
Speaker 2: even oilier people should be using more oil.
Speaker 1: So one of the things to understand is we have
Speaker 1: glands that produce oil in the dermis, so that's right
Speaker 1: under our epidermis, and oil skin isn't all bad. The
Speaker 1: thing is you want to find the right balance. Sometimes
Speaker 1: people have really oily skin, so they make a lot
Speaker 1: of oil and that might lead to them getting zits
Speaker 1: or pimples and stuff. Yeah, but you ail is good
Speaker 1: for you because it actually like helps preserve your skin,
Speaker 1: and people with oil skin tend to have thicker skin
Speaker 1: and fewer wrinkles. The key is to yes, you might
Speaker 1: want to get away get rid of the extra oil,
Speaker 1: but don't take away the good oil. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: don't want to strip it all the way Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: strip it all the way down.
Speaker 2: And then I do sunscreen. I love, like the Glossier
Speaker 2: one is really great. It's like clear. It also gives
Speaker 2: a nice glow, so like even after piling all that on,
Speaker 2: it like it weirdly like gnats and glows at the
Speaker 2: same time.
Speaker 3: So that's my last step before makeup.
Speaker 1: Sunscreen is a really important step when it comes to
Speaker 1: like having healthy skin, like not just sunscreen for your face,
Speaker 1: head to toe sunscreen. None of us should really be
Speaker 1: going outside when the sun's blazing like it has been
Speaker 1: without that protective layer on.
Speaker 2: And I like a clear sunscreen a because it feels
Speaker 2: b because it doesn't give you that weird like purply
Speaker 2: cast and especially like the browner your skin is, you
Speaker 2: should definitely be using a clear sunscreen because those ultraviolet
Speaker 2: blocking ones can really show up on brown skin.
Speaker 1: And the way the sunscreen works is that it has
Speaker 1: all of these nanoparticles in it, and those nanoparticles are
Speaker 1: used to basically reflect the sun back out and so
Speaker 1: it is literally a protective layer where that it doesn't
Speaker 1: allow UV rays to get through. Wow. So it's just
Speaker 1: like you know how back in the day there were
Speaker 1: those and some people still using those silverfold up things
Speaker 1: that you put in your car to keep the inside
Speaker 1: of the car from getting too hot. Basically we're just
Speaker 1: holding those up on our face and send the sun
Speaker 1: right back to itself. I'm rubber, You're glue back at
Speaker 1: you like, yeah, I mean, it doesn't keep all of
Speaker 1: the sun out, but it keeps a lot of the
Speaker 1: bad sun rays out. So then we had to ask Joanna,
Speaker 1: is there anything we can skip because there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff on the internet and we want to know
Speaker 1: do we really need all of that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely like products that I feel are overrated.
Speaker 2: Like I don't think anyone in the world needs setting spray,
Speaker 2: Like what what is that?
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 2: Like setting spray? You don't need that, Like what is that?
Speaker 2: I don't even know what's that supposed to do? Like
Speaker 2: people think that's like a like a deck when you're
Speaker 2: standing down your deck and you need to seal it
Speaker 2: and make it water p Like, No.
Speaker 1: We had just live and die by setting spray. Now
Speaker 1: I know, it's just all the application is wrong. Teeth,
Speaker 1: You're not putting your makeup on right because your makeup
Speaker 1: should stay on, and rolling is not super necessary unless
Speaker 1: you have something kind of coming up.
Speaker 2: For me, Like I don't think you need to do
Speaker 2: like rolling or guasha or anything like that unless you're
Speaker 2: seriously like puffy.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like those those techniques are meant to distribute the fluid
Speaker 2: that's under your skin. So you know, you flew in
Speaker 2: late last night and you're eating salty French fries on
Speaker 2: the plane and we're up at five a m. Glamoring
Speaker 2: and you look puffy. Then like, yeah, let's try to
Speaker 2: distribute some of that fluid like every day or whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, it feels nice, but I don't think you're
Speaker 2: really like having some gigantic effect.
Speaker 1: Does it have to be jade? Some people use rose
Speaker 1: quartz and is that spiritual? Like I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what So I learned a lot here, but something
Speaker 1: that you haven't heard us talk about just yet that
Speaker 1: I think Joanna does beautifully and is really spreading this
Speaker 1: message all across the internet, and that's about being Bear
Speaker 1: in the Air. Yeah, she has a hashtag on her Instagram.
Speaker 1: If you put go on to Instagram and put hashtag
Speaker 1: bear in the Air, you'll see all of these people
Speaker 1: who have been following in her footsteps as far as
Speaker 1: keeping your skin absolutely free of all things when you
Speaker 1: are flying, yeah, and really using that time to put
Speaker 1: on your best serums and vitamins and whatnot. I love.
Speaker 2: I love when I see people tagging me and they're
Speaker 2: going all in like with a sheet mask, Like I
Speaker 2: don't even care who's looking at least under eye mask,
Speaker 2: like under a sunglass. But people got like sheet masks
Speaker 2: or like landling gloves. I'm like, you guys are like committed,
Speaker 2: and I love it. I've definitely done a sheet mask
Speaker 2: on the plane. I'm like every extra thing you can do.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because sometimes people will say, oh, I
Speaker 2: don't like face oil, it feels too greasy on my skin.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you, if you get on like a long
Speaker 2: haul flight and you put oil on and you feel greasy,
Speaker 2: by the time you land, your skin is gonna just
Speaker 2: feel like soft and supple and you're not gonna feel
Speaker 2: any bit of oil whatsoever because your skin's just gonna
Speaker 2: drink all of it.
Speaker 3: T T.
Speaker 1: I feel like this was revolutionary for me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: realize that I have a good foundation where I have
Speaker 1: some of the things that she is talking about. Maybe
Speaker 1: not the specific products. Some of these products I don't
Speaker 1: know if I can afford them, but I think I'm
Speaker 1: on my way. I think I have the products, and
Speaker 1: I need a little bit more discipline with doing these
Speaker 1: things faithfully because sometimes by the time I get to
Speaker 1: the bathroom to get ready to go to bed at night,
Speaker 1: I'm like a makeup white will do And this is
Speaker 1: just and sometimes I'm like a clinics. White will do anything.
Speaker 1: We'll do toilet paper, toilet paper with a little bit
Speaker 1: of water from the sink well, and I need to
Speaker 1: keep that pillow case will do. And I'll just say,
Speaker 1: now you just laid let the pillowcase take off the day. Yes,
Speaker 1: the pillow case will absorb all the oils. And we
Speaker 1: didn't even talk about washing your pillow case. You got
Speaker 1: to wash your pillow case. Yes, you know, y'all washing
Speaker 1: y'all pillowcases. I changed my pillow throughout the week because
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of the same pillows and I
Speaker 1: just rotate them throughout the bed. I try to wash
Speaker 1: my pillows every time, my pillowcases every time I do laundry.
Speaker 1: Is there anything you're gonna do differently? Now? I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it and find like an essence or something.
Speaker 1: The way she was describing it, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: missing out on something like this secret that everyone has
Speaker 1: been keeping from me, and I want to try it.
Speaker 1: So I think I'm gonna start doing some googles and
Speaker 1: and get just I'm probably just gonna put what she
Speaker 1: what she uses in my Amazon cart If I'm being honest, yeah,
Speaker 1: just put it all in there and get to and
Speaker 1: then I'll come retrieve the items that. Okay, better for me,
Speaker 1: no problem. I really want some I cream, like I
Speaker 1: have some little samples that I got from like so
Speaker 1: four and I need to just apply, apply, apply, because
Speaker 1: I don't do that and that skin is tender under there.
Speaker 1: M h, not too much though. No, we don't want
Speaker 1: millia bumps. Yeah, she told us about those. I don't
Speaker 1: even want to talk about them. Y'all have to google it,
Speaker 1: Google millia bumps and be prepared to be disgusted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can get rid of those with a good aesthetition. Yes,
Speaker 1: and that's anesthetician can get rid of all of those.
Speaker 1: So don't don't worry. If you have millia bumps, it's fine.
Speaker 1: We got you, We got you. You can go get
Speaker 1: those removed. So you can find links to all of
Speaker 1: these products that Joanna mentioned, and additionally, you can find
Speaker 1: links to some of me and tit's favorite products in
Speaker 1: the show notes. Yeah, I'll put a link to the Lemons.
Speaker 1: You're gonna click on TT's link and you're gonna have Instacart.
Speaker 1: It's gonna immediately go to the Giant and get all
Speaker 1: the limits in the bag of lemons Costco. You need
Speaker 1: lots of lemons and just put them in the freezer.
Speaker 1: They'll last longer. Check out the show notes so I
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