WEBVTT - Dancing with…Ezra Sosa 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:17.040 Welcome to Danielle with the Stars. I am Danielle Fishall, 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.439 a TV director, a podcaster to Panga, to the many 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.160 baristas who write my name on my coffee cups, and 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.319 a mom of two little boys. But as of just 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.560 a month ago, you can add aspiring ballroom dancer to 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.560 my resume because I am competing on season thirty four 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.839 of Dancing with the Stars, airing every Tuesday night on 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.159 ABC and Disney Plus. And in addition to learning the 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.400 quick Step, the Cha Cha, the Argentine Tango, I am 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.800 also recording a podcast along the way so that you, 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.000 my dear listeners, can follow as I try my hardest 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:56.400 to claim my very own Len Goodman Mirror Ball Trophy. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.560 And throughout the season, I'm sitting down with fellow contestants 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:03.120 and pro to talk about the experience, their personal journey 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.520 to what is currently the number one show in America, 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.959 and what I, as a dancer, need to do to 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.720 get better. And today I am talking to one of 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.640 the main reasons Dancing with the Stars is in the 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:19.640 middle of a renaissance twenty years after its premiere and 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.240 now a staple on your for you page, he quickly 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.440 became the gen z liaison between social media and the 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.640 ballroom dancing TV show when he joined for season thirty 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.480 one as a member of the troupe. Then he got 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.679 a last minute call in season thirty two when Artam 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:39.880 caught COVID and like a fabulous Clark kent On went 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.880 the cape and dance shoes and it went so well 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.320 he was promoted to pro the very next season and 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:51.040 paired with the controversial true crime favorite Anna Delvey, where 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.600 they were eliminated first yet the effect of their partnership 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.760 will live on forever, and now he is killing it 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:04.080 alongside Olympic gold medalist and all around badass Jordan Chiles, 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.919 becoming this season's undeniable redemption story, taking a first week 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:13.480 disappointment and quickly turning their partnership into a first place 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.360 front runner. Please welcome to Danielle with the Stars. A 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:21.160 truly spectacular dancer, the reason I had to step up 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.280 my TikTok game, and a genuine cutie Patuti. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.320 It's Ezrasosa Jesus Louise. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.680 Oh my god, that was amazing, and that was like 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.440 one that was like one you've read all that you read. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:40.560 I wow, I could never wow talk about popcorn reading 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.840 that was incredible. I like, moves, you haven't even started 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:46.520 past there. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.280 That's it, that's it. Welcome now you could leave. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.360 Well, I'm very honored to be here. Thank you for 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:50.799 having me. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:52.280 I am so happy you're here. 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:57.640 I mentioned that you and Jordan kind of immediately started 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.800 off as a redemption story. I have to say though, 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:05.840 I loved Week ones Dance. I know, going first to 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:10.840 kick off such a big season, the twentieth anniversary, the 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:15.200 thirty fourth season, a stacked competitive year. What how did 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.000 you feel when you found out you guys were going first. 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.520 I was kind of excited. Yeah, because the season on 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.440 four I was last. Okay, so I was like, okay, 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.800 not going last, We're going first. So I'm like yeah, 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.359 I'm like I'm just comparing bad juju out of the 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.840 way and going first. But I definitely feel like I 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.240 understand how hard going first is now because doing it, 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:38.720 I was like, oh, yeah, I don't ever want to 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.880 do that again. Yeah, it was a tough one for sure. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.280 It's tough. You don't really have a ton of time 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.280 to warm up. There's no there's no real practice time. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.000 Right before or even gauge how anyone's doing. Like you 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.120 just don't know what the competition's like. You know, it's feerce, 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:53.520 but we're like, we're just going to go out there 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.839 and like give it her all. But you really, it's 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.120 really hard to gauge the level of talent when you 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.680 are going first. 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.040 Also, I don't know if anyone else feels this way. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.280 I think some people do online. But do you feel 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.280 like maybe the judges also take a little while to 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:10.320 warm up. 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.320 Like absolutely, I think as the judges are watching the 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.800 episodes as the audiences as well, And I think that's 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.200 why it's so hard judging, because how are you going 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.240 to know how this first dance is going to compare 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.280 it to the last dance when you have seen them 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.560 so correct I can I can just only imagine how 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.440 hard it is for the judges now. 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.840 I feel for them every week. Every time Carrie Anne 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.840 gets booed, I'm like, guys. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.920 I'm like, she's doing her job. She's doing her job. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.400 Also, I want someone in that position who has a 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.960 hot take occasionally, if that's your opinion, give me your 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.520 hat take, don't keep it in. How boring would the 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.800 show be if it was just placating every person that 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.440 got up there, like I need them to be honest 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.239 when something doesn't resonate, when they don't think something was good, 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.400 even if we disagree, that's okay. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.839 If I'm being completely honest too. I do feel like 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.200 Jordan and I we struggle when they don't have feedback 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.760 for us completely, because like week one they gave us feedback, 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.440 We're like, okay, we know exactly what we need to 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.360 work on. We two it was like praise and we're like, okay, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.240 we're going to go back to week one, right, and 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.279 then it was like now that's like now there's like 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.880 they're just giving us compliments and it's great, but like 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.560 we're both true competitors totally, and so when it comes 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.960 to anything that judges have to say, if there's any feedback, 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.000 I think we we like that a lot more than 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.119 praise totally because we want to get better. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.800 You will actually thrive on the criticism, yes, because it 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.960 means you have something to focus your energy into and 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.239 turning it into improvement. And no matter where you start 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.400 your dancing process, whether you're a total nube or you've 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.679 got some experience or you're very advanced, the whole point 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.400 of the show is to definitely end better. Than you 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.280 were at the beginning. And the only way to do 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.880 that is for someone to say, here are your areas 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:51.760 for growth. 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.799 And know who better than the judges on. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:06:00.040 The show on the show, exactly, absolutely, So obviously a 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.560 Delvi was not necessarily a dancer. 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:04.440 You were given a redemption operation. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.159 She told me she was okay, she told me she 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:11.279 was a dancer. They're like, she can dance and I said, oh, 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.000 she's no, And I said, show me a first position 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.120 and she looked at me in the face and I 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.440 was She's like And I was like, yeah, no, no 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.560 dance experience there, okay, no, missy. 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.960 No, Well you didn't get a redemption opportunity with her 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.440 because she was let go week one. Yeah, and so 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.360 she also probably has to go on that redemption journey alone. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.119 It's giving on her own time. 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:37.880 It's giving solo journey. But are there any ideas you 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.680 had for her that you wish could have happened? 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.120 Oh my gosh, so many things, but also too like 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.360 you don't even know what the network is going to allow, right, 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:47.560 But I was like, what do you mean we can't 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.400 do with Chawshad a criminal by Britney schoolers, Like we 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.359 can't like, what do you mean we can't do that? 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.200 But wait, I'm sorry they drew the line there with 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:56.680 the ankle monitor. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.600 I honestly they like, I feel like in the packages too, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.320 they really refrain me from saying criminal. They're like, the 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:07.080 network doesn't like the word criminal. And I said, okay, well, 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.880 I'm in a tricky position here because I am dancing 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:16.480 with a criminal. Yes, like so but we yeah, but yeah, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.640 on the show, she was a fashionist. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:22.520 Stuff, a fashionista, Yes, a fashionist stuff was doing okay. 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.200 So they didn't ask me, So I'm gonna go out 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:25.840 on a limb and just make the assumption that they 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.160 don't ask people how they want to be referred to. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.920 I think they asked her really, but she wanted to 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.600 be referred to as an inkle monitor ankle No, no, no, 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.720 an ankle model. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.760 An ankle model? Is that because of the monitor? 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.880 Yes? Okay, But then they said, we have an actual 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.520 model this season, so we can't say no, we can't 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:51.760 say ankle model. Oh yeah, very fun first season. You 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.280 know what Britt told me my first season, She said, 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.400 no matter what, you're never going to forget your first Yeah. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:58.360 I stand by that. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:03.000 Yeah, you're right. And now it will live forever because 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:04.920 you commemorated. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.680 Yes as a gay man. How iconic is that? 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.480 Like, it's the most iconic thing I've ever heard a 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.960 professional doing. After having an experience like that, truly, it's like, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.320 and of course you did it. Of course you're you're 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.160 a genius. So let's all just get that out of 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.760 the way. So let's talk about joining the Troop. I 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.760 know you had competed on So you think you can dance, 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.480 and your Utah roots connected you to many of the pros. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.000 But how did getting on Troop come together? 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.600 Oh my gosh, I feel like it's just like everything 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:32.439 kind of has to set in place. Yeah, as you 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.800 can imagine, there's only so many positions on the show 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.280 as a dancer, so there's hundreds and thousands of people 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.600 who just want to be able to just dance on 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:42.920 the show. I was one of those people. But I 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.600 definitely feel like doing so you think you can dance 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.560 and being in the dance convention circuit, I was kind 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.960 of in the right orbit around the right people. Okay, 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.800 So by the time I actually auditioned for so you 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.240 think they are already reaching out asking, like gauging, like 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.439 if I was a good fit for the show and whatnot, 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.800 and so I definitely feel like ever since I turned 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.160 eighteen out they were kind of eyeing, mean, seeing if 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:05.959 it was right fit, and then I joined the show. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:10.160 It was it was like during COVID and so it 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.280 was like an audition zoom process. So it was like, 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.600 definitely not I don't think how anyone else would join 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.880 the show, but it was they wanted to see me teach, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.560 they wanted to have interviews with me, and yeah, and 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:23.480 then we got on the show. 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:28.000 How do you prepare to teach someone else to dance? 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.640 You don't, I mean unless you have teaching experience, but 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.839 you have to. No, there's no other way to train 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.480 being a pro on the show than being a pro 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.520 on Dancing with the Stars, because there's no other job 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:41.839 like it. You have to wear so many hats and 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.200 I'm sure you know through Pasha, like he has to 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.680 find good music for you, he has to also like 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.400 understand you and your story through dance, and it's there's 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.560 a lot of things that you have to do. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.680 Can we talk a little bit about the music, music 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.160 selection and dance selection process, because I see a lot 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:03.679 of people talking about it online. And they don't understand 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:10.920 how many factors going to play into it. I, truthfully, 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.400 now having been a part of it for four weeks, 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.840 still don't understand all of it because I don't understand 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.120 music the way you guys do. Like Pasha's, I'll be like, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.080 why can't we use this song for such and such? 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.120 He's like, because that's not a three four count and 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:34.680 I'm like whatever, I don't know why I like Okay, 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.600 So there are so many things. One you want to 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:41.320 pick something that has some sort of a connection to 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.680 you because you have to rely on that music to 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.800 help bring your story out. You don't want to be 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:50.560 sick of it. You don't want to dislike it, you 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.959 want to love it. It has to fit a certain rhythm, 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.640 It has to fit the theme of the week. Can 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.320 we talk about Disneyland this week? 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.319 Yeah? Well yeah, you have to fit the theme of 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.440 the week. And honestly, they will sit you down and 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.520 especially with Disney, and they're like, we're celebrating Disneyland. So 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.280 if you can find a song from the ride Tiana's 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.680 by your Adventure, that's what we would recommend. And so 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.600 you know, as a team player, you're always gonna want 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:19.400 to deliver and find the perfect option. But there's so 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.840 many other factors that go into it, like Robert and Whitney, 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.920 Like he's in Zutopia too, so it's like if he 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.400 didn't do that, that would have been you know. It's 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.880 like it's a great promo for Zutopia, but also a 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.080 great story for him because he's having a moment in 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:33.000 the actual movie. 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:33.439 Yep. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.240 So I definitely feel like, especially with song selections, it's 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.199 different for every single person. But I always say, as 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.520 a pro, you have to find music that they love, 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.920 because I always say I don't get final decision. My 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.600 partner does because it is their journey on the show. 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.360 But I'm very lucky because Jordan's very down for whatever, 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:54.640 and she understands that, Like, like you said, we have 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.079 to pick music and songs that fit the style, the theme. 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.160 But also like I can't do two slow dances in 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.440 a row because then it's like it gets a little stale, 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:05.400 or it's like if we do a rumbo, we can't 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.160 do a rumba later on, Like we have to find 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.040 the styles at the right time. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.600 And you can we have an idea of what's coming 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.600 week after week and you start saying like, okay, let's 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.600 we started with this, Like to your point, all right, 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.960 we started with a tango. We're not gonna do something 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:21.720 slow or ballroom me next week. Now we have to 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.760 do it. So by the time you get to week six, 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.360 you're like, here are a handful of dances we haven't 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.400 done you can do, and now we have to find 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.280 a song that speaks to you that fits the theme. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.680 So the themes they kind of they're a little Having one. 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.760 Every week is a little difficult. 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.880 It's hard fighting music like it is. It is really hard. 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.200 But I always say I personally love theme weeks because 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.360 it ties all the dances together. Yeah, and I think 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.600 it ties the episode together as a whole. I feel 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.280 like once you're in the shoes as a pro and 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.600 you're having to actually find the songs, yes, it does suck, 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.000 but as a bigger picture, it makes total sense to do. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.480 You're right, And when people talk online about like, well 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.880 why don't why doesn't everybody do all the same dances, 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.080 and you think, do you want to watch fourteen tangos? 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:05.679 I mean we did how many? 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:06.640 We five? 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.320 We have five quick steps, I know, and we had 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:14.400 five shahaws, you know, like so yeah already. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.000 And we like, I didn't know. Did you know that 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:17.199 there was five quick steps? 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:18.000 I did? 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:19.080 Oh, I didn't know. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:19.640 You didn't know. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.640 No. I was like, there's five of them and we're 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.320 the fifth one. Good luck troops. As a Jordan, this 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:25.280 is going to be a tough one. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:29.360 But I think you guys were underscored. Really, just guess 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.160 what what. I think you were too. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:31.560 Thank you. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.360 I think you guys deserved your first nine. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.480 I really do. Really is it crazy that? And I 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.120 talked to Jordan about this too. Okay, I'm okay with us, 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.600 I'm okay with our scores. So am I Yes, I. 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:45.120 Feel the same way. I actually because you know my mom, 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:50.679 of course you believe you didn't get your first eight. 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.559 I'm like, Mom, thank god, you're not alone. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.800 It's actually kind of crazy because I can also not 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.520 like your quick stuff was incredible. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.240 Thank you. It was so much fun. It's my favorite 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.880 dance we've done. But if we had gone down, if 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.200 I had been given a worse score than the week before, 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.320 I definitely felt like I was at least on par 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.400 with my last week's dance. I do think it was 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.360 better than last week's chance with you, But if I 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.240 had gone down, I would be like, oh no, this 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:21.120 is this is terrible. But consistency is never bad. And 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:25.160 I still have the looking forward to my first eight 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.040 in front of me. So I'm just. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:31.280 Giving next week. I mean, what's your dance next week? 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:33.600 It's giving next. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:38.720 Week, thank you. If my knees can hold up, it 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:40.640 should be it should be really fun. I mean, you know, 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.640 Dedication week is going to be amazing. Speaking of Dedication week, 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.720 you guys are doing a song it is very near 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.040 and dear to my heart. You're doing Daughters, and the 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.240 dedication is to Jordan's dad. Right. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.200 It's just such a special song. I really is. And 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.080 I also think the message behind the song is so 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.240 powerful and it really connects to Jordan and her dad. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.960 And you really see the accolades that Jordan has made 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.560 and she's an Olympian, like I mean, I know, come 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.640 on like diva seriously, but it takes a strong support 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.520 system to do that, but also to see the incredible 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.120 woman that she is. You can just tell like she 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.240 has such a strong father figure in her life, and 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.800 really that's what the dance is about, is just the 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.240 blessing of having a strong father figure and how it 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:23.680 could really shape a woman's life. 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.080 Do you feel a lot of pressure to put together 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.000 something that's befitting of that kind of emotion. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.160 I guess it'll all come together. But I mean, Jordan 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.480 clocked me last week because I put a lot of 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.160 pressure on myself with our quick step. But this week, 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.800 I'm just letting it go and I'm just trusting the process, 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.080 and I'm trusting it'll all come together. Like I trust 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.080 my ability as a pro, but I also trust Jordan 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.560 as my partner. And also like I already started teaching 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.440 Jordan's dad and he is a solid guy, Like he's 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.200 so great and so nice, and they're both the literal 0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:00.000 same person. Where it's like you just know a PCE 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.000 like this will fall together the way it needs to, 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:03.960 the moment it needs to. 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:18.720 That's so special. I want to talk to you about 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:24.560 your social media game because you are so good on 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:31.320 coming from you. No, no, no, I have only had 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.480 to step up my game because of you. 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.320 Well it's making me step up my game. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.320 Well, then look at us just raising the bar for 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:38.880 each other. That's what real friends do. 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:43.720 Two queens two queens too exactly, we just straighten your crown, 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.680 how do you how do you how do you come. 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.480 Up with your social Is it like a strategy or 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:49.760 do it? 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.320 Does it really just a strategy? It is strategy, but 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.280 also it's I feel like it's super unfortunate that I 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.720 am chronically online, like from a mental health and everything, 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.120 but when it comes to social media, like it definitely 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.240 gives you a leg up. But it's like also knowing 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.439 like six seven like that TikTok you do with Pasha 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:09.359 the sixth seven one Chef's kiss so good, but like 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.879 you have to understand those things and in order to 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:15.040 do that, you have to be online, right chronically chronically online, 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.560 And I am chronically online. But I also feel like 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:20.600 I learned a lot through a lot of my close 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.800 friends who have a big social media following. So even 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.160 it's like our first week is bad, I'm like, Okay, 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:26.800 that's that's a joke in itself. We can do a 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.440 TikTok about that and like, yeah, completely like changed light 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:31.400 of the whole situation. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:37.840 Absolutely, are you chronically online year round or you know, okay, okay, good. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:42.040 It actually got really especially my relationship with social media. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.240 Last year, my social media popped off and in ways 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.200 I never expected it to but in the weirdest way 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.760 that a lot of people knew me for my social 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.320 media but not for my talent and not for my danceability. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.400 So it really got to me on tour when people 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.440 are going, like You're meeting so many people and there's 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.600 like it's Danielle and You're like every single time I 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.639 see daniel like Queen, I'm like, your dancing is incredible, 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.159 and then fan's going to come up to me and 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.359 be like your TikTok is my favorite, so you for 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:11.359 so like after tour, I kind of like held that 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.679 to myself. I'm like, Okay, I guess this is my thing. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.280 And I put so much energy into it where it 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.639 made me lose sight for my actual love of dance. 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.400 And so before the season started, I kind of took 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.399 a couple of weeks off of social media completely and 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.240 it kind of just trained in the studio and just 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.200 wrap my head around like getting my mental health better 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.159 in order to get right for the season. 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.200 So smart, and. 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:38.919 You're right that, like we are, the point of social 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.840 media for us as professionals should be to use social 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.600 media as a tool to help cultivate the career. 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.920 Yes, as opposed to just. 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.720 The personality, unless you want to just be a personality, 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.480 you know, but like for you, you are an incredibly 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.840 talented dancer, You're a performer, and your social media should 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.679 help highlight and shine the spotlight on that, not just 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.320 the fact that you're also a fabulous personality, although you 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:04.720 are both. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.720 I mean, it's the comments You're like going through it 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:08.359 and they're like, oh my god, I didn't even know 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.320 he danced. I'm like, diva, oh no, you're like this. 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.360 I'm like, how do you think I got the job? 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:16.000 How do you think I got the job? I'm like, 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:17.320 four years of shaking my. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:24.280 I deserve some credit for that. Yes I do, Yes, absolutely, Okay, 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.000 I have to talk about the tattoo. 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.120 The you have a. 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:36.000 You're taking Brandon to get a tattoo that says pissed 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.159 yes is so iconic. 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.359 How did that idea come about? Was it your idea 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.399