Speaker 1: Welcome to Danielle with the Stars. I am Danielle Fishall,
Speaker 1: a TV director, a podcaster to Panga, to the many
Speaker 1: baristas who write my name on my coffee cups, and
Speaker 1: a mom of two little boys. But as of just
Speaker 1: a month ago, you can add aspiring ballroom dancer to
Speaker 1: my resume because I am competing on season thirty four
Speaker 1: of Dancing with the Stars, airing every Tuesday night on
Speaker 1: ABC and Disney Plus. And in addition to learning the
Speaker 1: quick Step, the Cha Cha, the Argentine Tango, I am
Speaker 1: also recording a podcast along the way so that you,
Speaker 1: my dear listeners, can follow as I try my hardest
Speaker 1: to claim my very own Len Goodman Mirror Ball Trophy.
Speaker 1: And throughout the season, I'm sitting down with fellow contestants
Speaker 1: and pro to talk about the experience, their personal journey
Speaker 1: to what is currently the number one show in America,
Speaker 1: and what I, as a dancer, need to do to
Speaker 1: get better. And today I am talking to one of
Speaker 1: the main reasons Dancing with the Stars is in the
Speaker 1: middle of a renaissance twenty years after its premiere and
Speaker 1: now a staple on your for you page, he quickly
Speaker 1: became the gen z liaison between social media and the
Speaker 1: ballroom dancing TV show when he joined for season thirty
Speaker 1: one as a member of the troupe. Then he got
Speaker 1: a last minute call in season thirty two when Artam
Speaker 1: caught COVID and like a fabulous Clark kent On went
Speaker 1: the cape and dance shoes and it went so well
Speaker 1: he was promoted to pro the very next season and
Speaker 1: paired with the controversial true crime favorite Anna Delvey, where
Speaker 1: they were eliminated first yet the effect of their partnership
Speaker 1: will live on forever, and now he is killing it
Speaker 1: alongside Olympic gold medalist and all around badass Jordan Chiles,
Speaker 1: becoming this season's undeniable redemption story, taking a first week
Speaker 1: disappointment and quickly turning their partnership into a first place
Speaker 1: front runner. Please welcome to Danielle with the Stars. A
Speaker 1: truly spectacular dancer, the reason I had to step up
Speaker 1: my TikTok game, and a genuine cutie Patuti.
Speaker 2: It's Ezrasosa Jesus Louise.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was amazing, and that was like
Speaker 3: one that was like one you've read all that you read.
Speaker 3: I wow, I could never wow talk about popcorn reading
Speaker 3: that was incredible. I like, moves, you haven't even started
Speaker 3: past there.
Speaker 1: That's it, that's it. Welcome now you could leave.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm very honored to be here. Thank you for
Speaker 3: having me.
Speaker 2: I am so happy you're here.
Speaker 1: I mentioned that you and Jordan kind of immediately started
Speaker 1: off as a redemption story. I have to say though,
Speaker 1: I loved Week ones Dance. I know, going first to
Speaker 1: kick off such a big season, the twentieth anniversary, the
Speaker 1: thirty fourth season, a stacked competitive year. What how did
Speaker 1: you feel when you found out you guys were going first.
Speaker 3: I was kind of excited. Yeah, because the season on
Speaker 3: four I was last. Okay, so I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: not going last, We're going first. So I'm like yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm just comparing bad juju out of the
Speaker 3: way and going first. But I definitely feel like I
Speaker 3: understand how hard going first is now because doing it,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, I don't ever want to
Speaker 3: do that again. Yeah, it was a tough one for sure.
Speaker 1: It's tough. You don't really have a ton of time
Speaker 1: to warm up. There's no there's no real practice time.
Speaker 3: Right before or even gauge how anyone's doing. Like you
Speaker 3: just don't know what the competition's like. You know, it's feerce,
Speaker 3: but we're like, we're just going to go out there
Speaker 3: and like give it her all. But you really, it's
Speaker 3: really hard to gauge the level of talent when you
Speaker 3: are going first.
Speaker 1: Also, I don't know if anyone else feels this way.
Speaker 1: I think some people do online. But do you feel
Speaker 1: like maybe the judges also take a little while to
Speaker 1: warm up.
Speaker 3: Like absolutely, I think as the judges are watching the
Speaker 3: episodes as the audiences as well, And I think that's
Speaker 3: why it's so hard judging, because how are you going
Speaker 3: to know how this first dance is going to compare
Speaker 3: it to the last dance when you have seen them
Speaker 3: so correct I can I can just only imagine how
Speaker 3: hard it is for the judges now.
Speaker 1: I feel for them every week. Every time Carrie Anne
Speaker 1: gets booed, I'm like, guys.
Speaker 3: I'm like, she's doing her job. She's doing her job.
Speaker 1: Also, I want someone in that position who has a
Speaker 1: hot take occasionally, if that's your opinion, give me your
Speaker 1: hat take, don't keep it in. How boring would the
Speaker 1: show be if it was just placating every person that
Speaker 1: got up there, like I need them to be honest
Speaker 1: when something doesn't resonate, when they don't think something was good,
Speaker 1: even if we disagree, that's okay.
Speaker 3: If I'm being completely honest too. I do feel like
Speaker 3: Jordan and I we struggle when they don't have feedback
Speaker 3: for us completely, because like week one they gave us feedback,
Speaker 3: We're like, okay, we know exactly what we need to
Speaker 3: work on. We two it was like praise and we're like, okay,
Speaker 3: we're going to go back to week one, right, and
Speaker 3: then it was like now that's like now there's like
Speaker 3: they're just giving us compliments and it's great, but like
Speaker 3: we're both true competitors totally, and so when it comes
Speaker 3: to anything that judges have to say, if there's any feedback,
Speaker 3: I think we we like that a lot more than
Speaker 3: praise totally because we want to get better.
Speaker 1: You will actually thrive on the criticism, yes, because it
Speaker 1: means you have something to focus your energy into and
Speaker 1: turning it into improvement. And no matter where you start
Speaker 1: your dancing process, whether you're a total nube or you've
Speaker 1: got some experience or you're very advanced, the whole point
Speaker 1: of the show is to definitely end better. Than you
Speaker 1: were at the beginning. And the only way to do
Speaker 1: that is for someone to say, here are your areas
Speaker 1: for growth.
Speaker 3: And know who better than the judges on.
Speaker 1: The show on the show, exactly, absolutely, So obviously a
Speaker 1: Delvi was not necessarily a dancer.
Speaker 2: You were given a redemption operation.
Speaker 3: She told me she was okay, she told me she
Speaker 3: was a dancer. They're like, she can dance and I said, oh,
Speaker 3: she's no, And I said, show me a first position
Speaker 3: and she looked at me in the face and I
Speaker 3: was She's like And I was like, yeah, no, no
Speaker 3: dance experience there, okay, no, missy.
Speaker 1: No, Well you didn't get a redemption opportunity with her
Speaker 1: because she was let go week one. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: she also probably has to go on that redemption journey alone.
Speaker 3: It's giving on her own time.
Speaker 1: It's giving solo journey. But are there any ideas you
Speaker 1: had for her that you wish could have happened?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so many things, but also too like
Speaker 3: you don't even know what the network is going to allow, right,
Speaker 3: But I was like, what do you mean we can't
Speaker 3: do with Chawshad a criminal by Britney schoolers, Like we
Speaker 3: can't like, what do you mean we can't do that?
Speaker 1: But wait, I'm sorry they drew the line there with
Speaker 1: the ankle monitor.
Speaker 3: I honestly they like, I feel like in the packages too,
Speaker 3: they really refrain me from saying criminal. They're like, the
Speaker 3: network doesn't like the word criminal. And I said, okay, well,
Speaker 3: I'm in a tricky position here because I am dancing
Speaker 3: with a criminal. Yes, like so but we yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 3: on the show, she was a fashionist.
Speaker 4: Stuff, a fashionista, Yes, a fashionist stuff was doing okay.
Speaker 1: So they didn't ask me, So I'm gonna go out
Speaker 1: on a limb and just make the assumption that they
Speaker 1: don't ask people how they want to be referred to.
Speaker 3: I think they asked her really, but she wanted to
Speaker 3: be referred to as an inkle monitor ankle No, no, no,
Speaker 3: an ankle model.
Speaker 2: An ankle model? Is that because of the monitor?
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, But then they said, we have an actual
Speaker 3: model this season, so we can't say no, we can't
Speaker 3: say ankle model. Oh yeah, very fun first season. You
Speaker 3: know what Britt told me my first season, She said,
Speaker 3: no matter what, you're never going to forget your first Yeah.
Speaker 3: I stand by that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. And now it will live forever because
Speaker 1: you commemorated.
Speaker 3: Yes as a gay man. How iconic is that?
Speaker 1: Like, it's the most iconic thing I've ever heard a
Speaker 1: professional doing. After having an experience like that, truly, it's like,
Speaker 1: and of course you did it. Of course you're you're
Speaker 1: a genius. So let's all just get that out of
Speaker 1: the way. So let's talk about joining the Troop. I
Speaker 1: know you had competed on So you think you can dance,
Speaker 1: and your Utah roots connected you to many of the pros.
Speaker 1: But how did getting on Troop come together?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I feel like it's just like everything
Speaker 3: kind of has to set in place. Yeah, as you
Speaker 3: can imagine, there's only so many positions on the show
Speaker 3: as a dancer, so there's hundreds and thousands of people
Speaker 3: who just want to be able to just dance on
Speaker 3: the show. I was one of those people. But I
Speaker 3: definitely feel like doing so you think you can dance
Speaker 3: and being in the dance convention circuit, I was kind
Speaker 3: of in the right orbit around the right people. Okay,
Speaker 3: So by the time I actually auditioned for so you
Speaker 3: think they are already reaching out asking, like gauging, like
Speaker 3: if I was a good fit for the show and whatnot,
Speaker 3: and so I definitely feel like ever since I turned
Speaker 3: eighteen out they were kind of eyeing, mean, seeing if
Speaker 3: it was right fit, and then I joined the show.
Speaker 3: It was it was like during COVID and so it
Speaker 3: was like an audition zoom process. So it was like,
Speaker 3: definitely not I don't think how anyone else would join
Speaker 3: the show, but it was they wanted to see me teach,
Speaker 3: they wanted to have interviews with me, and yeah, and
Speaker 3: then we got on the show.
Speaker 1: How do you prepare to teach someone else to dance?
Speaker 3: You don't, I mean unless you have teaching experience, but
Speaker 3: you have to. No, there's no other way to train
Speaker 3: being a pro on the show than being a pro
Speaker 3: on Dancing with the Stars, because there's no other job
Speaker 3: like it. You have to wear so many hats and
Speaker 3: I'm sure you know through Pasha, like he has to
Speaker 3: find good music for you, he has to also like
Speaker 3: understand you and your story through dance, and it's there's
Speaker 3: a lot of things that you have to do.
Speaker 1: Can we talk a little bit about the music, music
Speaker 1: selection and dance selection process, because I see a lot
Speaker 1: of people talking about it online. And they don't understand
Speaker 1: how many factors going to play into it. I, truthfully,
Speaker 1: now having been a part of it for four weeks,
Speaker 1: still don't understand all of it because I don't understand
Speaker 1: music the way you guys do. Like Pasha's, I'll be like,
Speaker 1: why can't we use this song for such and such?
Speaker 1: He's like, because that's not a three four count and
Speaker 1: I'm like whatever, I don't know why I like Okay,
Speaker 1: So there are so many things. One you want to
Speaker 1: pick something that has some sort of a connection to
Speaker 1: you because you have to rely on that music to
Speaker 1: help bring your story out. You don't want to be
Speaker 1: sick of it. You don't want to dislike it, you
Speaker 1: want to love it. It has to fit a certain rhythm,
Speaker 1: It has to fit the theme of the week. Can
Speaker 1: we talk about Disneyland this week?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well yeah, you have to fit the theme of
Speaker 3: the week. And honestly, they will sit you down and
Speaker 3: especially with Disney, and they're like, we're celebrating Disneyland. So
Speaker 3: if you can find a song from the ride Tiana's
Speaker 3: by your Adventure, that's what we would recommend. And so
Speaker 3: you know, as a team player, you're always gonna want
Speaker 3: to deliver and find the perfect option. But there's so
Speaker 3: many other factors that go into it, like Robert and Whitney,
Speaker 3: Like he's in Zutopia too, so it's like if he
Speaker 3: didn't do that, that would have been you know. It's
Speaker 3: like it's a great promo for Zutopia, but also a
Speaker 3: great story for him because he's having a moment in
Speaker 3: the actual movie.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So I definitely feel like, especially with song selections, it's
Speaker 3: different for every single person. But I always say, as
Speaker 3: a pro, you have to find music that they love,
Speaker 3: because I always say I don't get final decision. My
Speaker 3: partner does because it is their journey on the show.
Speaker 3: But I'm very lucky because Jordan's very down for whatever,
Speaker 3: and she understands that, Like, like you said, we have
Speaker 3: to pick music and songs that fit the style, the theme.
Speaker 3: But also like I can't do two slow dances in
Speaker 3: a row because then it's like it gets a little stale,
Speaker 3: or it's like if we do a rumbo, we can't
Speaker 3: do a rumba later on, Like we have to find
Speaker 3: the styles at the right time.
Speaker 1: And you can we have an idea of what's coming
Speaker 1: week after week and you start saying like, okay, let's
Speaker 1: we started with this, Like to your point, all right,
Speaker 1: we started with a tango. We're not gonna do something
Speaker 1: slow or ballroom me next week. Now we have to
Speaker 1: do it. So by the time you get to week six,
Speaker 1: you're like, here are a handful of dances we haven't
Speaker 1: done you can do, and now we have to find
Speaker 1: a song that speaks to you that fits the theme.
Speaker 1: So the themes they kind of they're a little Having one.
Speaker 2: Every week is a little difficult.
Speaker 3: It's hard fighting music like it is. It is really hard.
Speaker 3: But I always say I personally love theme weeks because
Speaker 3: it ties all the dances together. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 3: it ties the episode together as a whole. I feel
Speaker 3: like once you're in the shoes as a pro and
Speaker 3: you're having to actually find the songs, yes, it does suck,
Speaker 3: but as a bigger picture, it makes total sense to do.
Speaker 1: You're right, And when people talk online about like, well
Speaker 1: why don't why doesn't everybody do all the same dances,
Speaker 1: and you think, do you want to watch fourteen tangos?
Speaker 3: I mean we did how many?
Speaker 2: We five?
Speaker 1: We have five quick steps, I know, and we had
Speaker 1: five shahaws, you know, like so yeah already.
Speaker 3: And we like, I didn't know. Did you know that
Speaker 3: there was five quick steps?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: You didn't know.
Speaker 3: No. I was like, there's five of them and we're
Speaker 3: the fifth one. Good luck troops. As a Jordan, this
Speaker 3: is going to be a tough one.
Speaker 4: But I think you guys were underscored. Really, just guess
Speaker 4: what what. I think you were too.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I think you guys deserved your first nine.
Speaker 3: I really do. Really is it crazy that? And I
Speaker 3: talked to Jordan about this too. Okay, I'm okay with us,
Speaker 3: I'm okay with our scores. So am I Yes, I.
Speaker 2: Feel the same way. I actually because you know my mom,
Speaker 2: of course you believe you didn't get your first eight.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Mom, thank god, you're not alone.
Speaker 3: It's actually kind of crazy because I can also not
Speaker 3: like your quick stuff was incredible.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It was so much fun. It's my favorite
Speaker 1: dance we've done. But if we had gone down, if
Speaker 1: I had been given a worse score than the week before,
Speaker 1: I definitely felt like I was at least on par
Speaker 1: with my last week's dance. I do think it was
Speaker 1: better than last week's chance with you, But if I
Speaker 1: had gone down, I would be like, oh no, this
Speaker 1: is this is terrible. But consistency is never bad. And
Speaker 1: I still have the looking forward to my first eight
Speaker 1: in front of me. So I'm just.
Speaker 3: Giving next week. I mean, what's your dance next week?
Speaker 3: It's giving next.
Speaker 1: Week, thank you. If my knees can hold up, it
Speaker 1: should be it should be really fun. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Dedication week is going to be amazing. Speaking of Dedication week,
Speaker 1: you guys are doing a song it is very near
Speaker 1: and dear to my heart. You're doing Daughters, and the
Speaker 1: dedication is to Jordan's dad. Right.
Speaker 3: It's just such a special song. I really is. And
Speaker 3: I also think the message behind the song is so
Speaker 3: powerful and it really connects to Jordan and her dad.
Speaker 3: And you really see the accolades that Jordan has made
Speaker 3: and she's an Olympian, like I mean, I know, come
Speaker 3: on like diva seriously, but it takes a strong support
Speaker 3: system to do that, but also to see the incredible
Speaker 3: woman that she is. You can just tell like she
Speaker 3: has such a strong father figure in her life, and
Speaker 3: really that's what the dance is about, is just the
Speaker 3: blessing of having a strong father figure and how it
Speaker 3: could really shape a woman's life.
Speaker 1: Do you feel a lot of pressure to put together
Speaker 1: something that's befitting of that kind of emotion.
Speaker 3: I guess it'll all come together. But I mean, Jordan
Speaker 3: clocked me last week because I put a lot of
Speaker 3: pressure on myself with our quick step. But this week,
Speaker 3: I'm just letting it go and I'm just trusting the process,
Speaker 3: and I'm trusting it'll all come together. Like I trust
Speaker 3: my ability as a pro, but I also trust Jordan
Speaker 3: as my partner. And also like I already started teaching
Speaker 3: Jordan's dad and he is a solid guy, Like he's
Speaker 3: so great and so nice, and they're both the literal
Speaker 3: same person. Where it's like you just know a PCE
Speaker 3: like this will fall together the way it needs to,
Speaker 3: the moment it needs to.
Speaker 1: That's so special. I want to talk to you about
Speaker 1: your social media game because you are so good on
Speaker 1: coming from you. No, no, no, I have only had
Speaker 1: to step up my game because of you.
Speaker 3: Well it's making me step up my game.
Speaker 1: Well, then look at us just raising the bar for
Speaker 1: each other. That's what real friends do.
Speaker 3: Two queens two queens too exactly, we just straighten your crown,
Speaker 3: how do you how do you how do you come.
Speaker 1: Up with your social Is it like a strategy or
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 3: Does it really just a strategy? It is strategy, but
Speaker 3: also it's I feel like it's super unfortunate that I
Speaker 3: am chronically online, like from a mental health and everything,
Speaker 3: but when it comes to social media, like it definitely
Speaker 3: gives you a leg up. But it's like also knowing
Speaker 3: like six seven like that TikTok you do with Pasha
Speaker 3: the sixth seven one Chef's kiss so good, but like
Speaker 3: you have to understand those things and in order to
Speaker 3: do that, you have to be online, right chronically chronically online,
Speaker 3: And I am chronically online. But I also feel like
Speaker 3: I learned a lot through a lot of my close
Speaker 3: friends who have a big social media following. So even
Speaker 3: it's like our first week is bad, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's that's a joke in itself. We can do a
Speaker 3: TikTok about that and like, yeah, completely like changed light
Speaker 3: of the whole situation.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, are you chronically online year round or you know, okay, okay, good.
Speaker 3: It actually got really especially my relationship with social media.
Speaker 3: Last year, my social media popped off and in ways
Speaker 3: I never expected it to but in the weirdest way
Speaker 3: that a lot of people knew me for my social
Speaker 3: media but not for my talent and not for my danceability.
Speaker 3: So it really got to me on tour when people
Speaker 3: are going, like You're meeting so many people and there's
Speaker 3: like it's Danielle and You're like every single time I
Speaker 3: see daniel like Queen, I'm like, your dancing is incredible,
Speaker 3: and then fan's going to come up to me and
Speaker 3: be like your TikTok is my favorite, so you for
Speaker 3: so like after tour, I kind of like held that
Speaker 3: to myself. I'm like, Okay, I guess this is my thing.
Speaker 3: And I put so much energy into it where it
Speaker 3: made me lose sight for my actual love of dance.
Speaker 3: And so before the season started, I kind of took
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks off of social media completely and
Speaker 3: it kind of just trained in the studio and just
Speaker 3: wrap my head around like getting my mental health better
Speaker 3: in order to get right for the season.
Speaker 2: So smart, and.
Speaker 1: You're right that, like we are, the point of social
Speaker 1: media for us as professionals should be to use social
Speaker 1: media as a tool to help cultivate the career.
Speaker 2: Yes, as opposed to just.
Speaker 1: The personality, unless you want to just be a personality,
Speaker 1: you know, but like for you, you are an incredibly
Speaker 1: talented dancer, You're a performer, and your social media should
Speaker 1: help highlight and shine the spotlight on that, not just
Speaker 1: the fact that you're also a fabulous personality, although you
Speaker 1: are both.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the comments You're like going through it
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh my god, I didn't even know
Speaker 3: he danced. I'm like, diva, oh no, you're like this.
Speaker 3: I'm like, how do you think I got the job?
Speaker 3: How do you think I got the job? I'm like,
Speaker 3: four years of shaking my.
Speaker 1: I deserve some credit for that. Yes I do, Yes, absolutely, Okay,
Speaker 1: I have to talk about the tattoo.
Speaker 2: The you have a.
Speaker 1: You're taking Brandon to get a tattoo that says pissed
Speaker 1: yes is so iconic.
Speaker 2: How did that idea come about? Was it your idea
Speaker 2: for Brandon or for my own, well, for yours.
Speaker 1: I'm going to assume it was of.
Speaker 3: Course, like it was just stupid, Like I definitely feel
Speaker 3: like looking back at it, I was like, I don't
Speaker 3: even know what I was thinking. But I stand by
Speaker 3: that decision.
Speaker 1: I'm really glad I mean, honestly, it's so. It's so
Speaker 1: I don't have any tattoos. I had to and I had.
Speaker 1: I'm removed. I love it so much. I'm like, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll get dancing with the stories too. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to plan on exiting with a word like nothing or pissed,
Speaker 1: but I just think it's so wonderful that like maybe
Speaker 1: I maybe I will. I don't know. But whose idea
Speaker 1: was it to convince brand Brandon?
Speaker 3: Who do you think? Girl? Who do you think? I'm yes? Literally,
Speaker 3: right after he got eliminated, I texted him, was like,
Speaker 3: see if I can find it, please or his wife,
Speaker 3: because Brandon never ever responds.
Speaker 1: He's not as as active online, which is probably means
Speaker 1: his mental health is wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's probably very healthy.
Speaker 3: They say, what do we say?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: I don't even know how I can. Oh. I sent
Speaker 3: him a voice non, okay. He said the tattoo idea,
Speaker 3: You're a genius. I said, please do it would break
Speaker 3: the internet?
Speaker 2: Which it did.
Speaker 3: I said, carry the tradition, yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, And so he was right. He right away he
Speaker 1: was on board, on board, Oh my gosh. And so
Speaker 1: you took him, yes, Riley felt it, and you held it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was such a special moment for the two
Speaker 3: of us. It really was.
Speaker 1: I just love it. I think it's one of the
Speaker 1: greatest things I've ever seen. You are such a pivotal
Speaker 1: part of ushering in a whole new demographic to Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars. No one could have predicted thirty four
Speaker 1: seasons in the show would be having, I mean, a
Speaker 1: total rebirth. It's more popular now than it has ever been.
Speaker 1: With that said, there is still a large population of
Speaker 1: viewership that's part of the shall we say, Old Guard,
Speaker 1: you know, and now you're helping bring in a whole new, young,
Speaker 1: more open minded audience. How do you feel the intersection
Speaker 1: of these audiences, how do you feel the intersection is going.
Speaker 1: I'm this is a little bit of a deeper question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that is that is a deeper question. You know.
Speaker 3: I find it interesting because I say, like Old Guard
Speaker 3: is like Instagram. Okay, okay, okay, I'm sorry, I'm an
Speaker 3: old If you're if Instagram is your thing, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: I am so sorry. Okay, okay, But you know, TikTok
Speaker 3: is where my huge or a huge part of my audiences,
Speaker 3: which is a huge part of the new audience that
Speaker 3: is coming to Dancing with the Stars. But I always
Speaker 3: find interesting how things perform different differently on different platforms,
Speaker 3: even if it's the same video. But sometimes a video
Speaker 3: of yours will see a different side of the Internet
Speaker 3: which probably shouldn't see it, right, and then it's just
Speaker 3: gonna get a different reaction, maybe one that you're not
Speaker 3: really hoping for.
Speaker 1: I feel very old now that I've lived through enough
Speaker 1: things that like my space.
Speaker 2: My Space was one of them.
Speaker 3: Let's bring your back, you know what.
Speaker 1: My Space is already, It's been enough time that it's back.
Speaker 1: It's cool in a nostalgic way. Facebook used to be
Speaker 1: for old people. What is Facebook Now? Facebook's just for
Speaker 1: for the ancient.
Speaker 3: I think we kind of forgot about Facebook. Yeah, is
Speaker 3: Facebook the my space?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Facebook is the new MySpace, Instagram
Speaker 1: is the new Facebook.
Speaker 2: And then TikTok is TikTok, tik Talk is TikTok.
Speaker 3: Wow, there's a lot of keys to keep up with.
Speaker 2: I know, it is a lot to keep yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It's also some of the I'm seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: questions online about judging, in particular now that there is
Speaker 1: a whole new fan base watching the show sometimes for
Speaker 1: the very first time.
Speaker 3: I think it's funny. I think I saw him for Sorry,
Speaker 3: I was being like, wait, I thought Derek and Mark
Speaker 3: were together, Like I'm screaming, I'm screaming. I'm like both
Speaker 3: happily married.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not to each other and not to each other. Right,
Speaker 1: so funny. Well, I know that now that there are
Speaker 1: all these newer, younger viewers who have never seen it,
Speaker 1: and they really want to try to understand all the
Speaker 1: aspects of the show. So they're like, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: The voting closes at eight, but then the person who
Speaker 1: goes last, you only have a few minutes to vote
Speaker 1: for that person. The judges scores count for roughly fifty
Speaker 1: percent every I mean, the amount of people doing stats
Speaker 1: and math problems.
Speaker 2: And I also don't.
Speaker 4: Understand guess what I also don't understand. I know there's
Speaker 4: no syllabus.
Speaker 3: No, there isn't a syllabus, but I think that's called producing, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: then it's called producing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, show exactly, I know.
Speaker 1: And I did. I did see someone somewhere found like
Speaker 1: something on one of the original maybe the Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Star's website, where there was like some sort of
Speaker 1: breakdown about.
Speaker 2: And did it make sense if you understand stats.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I actually look at it. No, Honestly,
Speaker 3: I feel like every single showdown, I'm like this, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Just whatever we do, what we do.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at Lauren and Brandon, we thought they
Speaker 3: were chilling, and then next thing, you know, you just.
Speaker 2: Never know, I know, was Jordan, And I mean we
Speaker 2: were all shocked.
Speaker 3: She's a harmonizer. She was distraught like she was. She
Speaker 3: didn't want to go through press after. I know, I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, but I like she deserved to stay longer.
Speaker 3: I will stand on that, yeah, and I completely agree
Speaker 3: like she, I don't. I also feel like she didn't
Speaker 3: really fully get to share her story, which we all
Speaker 3: knew her. She was such a nice and lovely girl,
Speaker 3: and it's like it just makes it that much worse
Speaker 3: when they have to leave so soon.
Speaker 1: I know, I couldn't agree with you more. And I
Speaker 1: every time I saw Lauren I felt better after seeing her.
Speaker 2: She was just one of those people uplifted everyone.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I every single time always felt good around her.
Speaker 1: So I was very sad to see her go. And
Speaker 1: I know how much Jordan and did.
Speaker 3: They know each other before the season, But when Jordan
Speaker 3: met Lauren, Jordan was going to pass out, like she
Speaker 3: was so excited to meet her.
Speaker 2: She's a big fan, big fan.
Speaker 1: That is so sweet. It seems like every week there
Speaker 1: is a new philosophical question online surrounding the show, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about this. First, is the
Speaker 1: idea of prior dance experience?
Speaker 3: Oh, here we go on.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts.
Speaker 1: On what the perfect amount of prior dance experience is
Speaker 1: for a celebrity to have.
Speaker 3: I think I don't think there. I don't think it
Speaker 3: should matter. Okay, honestly, I really don't because you look
Speaker 3: at people like Hilaria and Glub. She had incredible dance experience,
Speaker 3: but people at home weren't really necessarily able to connect
Speaker 3: with her. But then you have someone like Andy who
Speaker 3: doesn't have near as much dance experience, but he gained
Speaker 3: such a huge audience just through his heart and through
Speaker 3: his personality. And I do feel like what's making this
Speaker 3: season so strong is the different varieties of dance experience. Yeah.
Speaker 3: My thing is, if you're under the umbrella of star,
Speaker 3: you're welcome to be on the ballroom floor. That and
Speaker 3: that is and I really do stand by that because
Speaker 3: you really look up Whitney and Mark, like, we wouldn't
Speaker 3: have had the room where it happens if it wasn't
Speaker 3: for the two of them together in that moment.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: And it's like that dance routine was pure magic.
Speaker 2: It really was. It really was.
Speaker 1: No, You're absolutely right. I think that's a great way
Speaker 1: of thinking about it. If you fall under the umbrella
Speaker 1: of star, you are welcome to be on the ballroom
Speaker 1: floor and dance is. I've mentioned this now to everybody
Speaker 1: who's come on, and I probably sound like a bit
Speaker 1: of a stupid broken record because duh. But as somebody
Speaker 1: who's worked in multiple aspects of the entertainment industry as
Speaker 1: an actor, as a dancer, as a writer, as a producer.
Speaker 2: Did I say as a dancer?
Speaker 1: I didn't. Yes, I mean now as almost everything other
Speaker 1: than a dancer until now to really understand how much
Speaker 1: dance is in just another form of storytelling and expression
Speaker 1: and connection with the audience. You're exactly right, Andy is
Speaker 1: connecting to the audience through this medium that even without
Speaker 1: having the experience, the point of the show is about
Speaker 1: telling that story. And the point of the show isn't
Speaker 1: necessarily who's the best dancer, it's who's your favorite dancer?
Speaker 1: Who do you want to see dance again? Next week?
Speaker 1: I see a couple of you know, people sometimes forget
Speaker 1: that they can vote for more than one couple, and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, it's just so hard because I'm really
Speaker 1: voting for you.
Speaker 3: Know, Jordan is like ten couples per vote.
Speaker 1: Ten couples per vote, ten votes per couple exactly, so
Speaker 1: you can vote for more than one. And so that's
Speaker 1: what I always tell people, because I'm like, guys, especially
Speaker 1: before we get to the finale. Once you get to
Speaker 1: the finale, you're gonna have to choose yes, sure, yes,
Speaker 1: but vote for every couple you want to see in
Speaker 1: the finale, because don't you want to curate the end.
Speaker 1: So anyone you feel like you want to see dance
Speaker 1: again because you connected with the dance, or you connected
Speaker 1: with the story, or you connected with it. We are
Speaker 1: storytelling and you have to if you connect with the story,
Speaker 1: place your vote. So okay, well, thank you for answering that,
Speaker 1: because I welcome I love it. Are you more interested
Speaker 1: as not only a pro on the show, but as
Speaker 1: a viewer, are you more interested in the journey of
Speaker 1: a celebrity or just an impressive dance.
Speaker 3: Journey of the celebrity. I also feel like, as as
Speaker 3: a dancer, I respect someone's journeying when they start from
Speaker 3: the ground up. And you eveno alone to last season, like,
Speaker 3: her message was so powerful and even though she didn't
Speaker 3: win a Mirror Ball, I just like I told her,
Speaker 3: your message in your journey on the show was a
Speaker 3: lot bigger than winning a Mirror Ball, and that's me
Speaker 3: is so powerful. But you know, sometimes but also you
Speaker 3: need like stellar routine to like really amplify the show.
Speaker 3: But to me, personally, I love a dancer's journey.
Speaker 1: Oh, I couldn't agree more. Also, I probably shouldn't say this,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to anyway. I feel like, for at
Speaker 1: least for myself, I'll only speak for myself. I can't
Speaker 1: speak for anyone else. I want to win the Mirror Ball,
Speaker 1: but not even so much for me.
Speaker 2: I want to win for Pasha.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so stee.
Speaker 1: I want Pasha to have the mirror Ball that I think, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I think Pasha deserves a mirror Ball too.
Speaker 1: I feel like for me, my goal is exactly what
Speaker 1: you said about Alona. My story, my story, and this
Speaker 1: journey for me is the win. And where like when
Speaker 1: I was in the bottom three last week and I
Speaker 1: was standing up there and I know they say the
Speaker 1: bottom three doesn't necessarily mean the bottom three, but still
Speaker 1: you're staying.
Speaker 3: You're there, You're there.
Speaker 1: You're you are there, could be your name, that is.
Speaker 3: But they were playing games, they were playing games with you.
Speaker 3: I was not, and I was backstage with Danny. Oh someone.
Speaker 3: I was like, kind of backs like, Danny's not going
Speaker 3: to be Pasha, like it's not and it's not, it
Speaker 3: is not happening.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have seen Danny's face.
Speaker 3: Well, no, you wouldn't have because you made it so no,
Speaker 3: no one wanted to see that.
Speaker 1: But when you're standing up there, you have all these
Speaker 1: thoughts that flashed through your head. And it was amazing
Speaker 1: to me, for as competitive as I am, how quickly
Speaker 1: I went from oh God, I really hope that it's
Speaker 1: not us too, but if it is us, I have
Speaker 1: loved every single second I have spent here with these
Speaker 1: people and no regrets, no regrets. So I got But
Speaker 1: but so the mirror ball I feel in my opinion
Speaker 1: is more for you guys, the mirror ball belongs to you.
Speaker 3: But do you know what's crazy? I think I think
Speaker 3: the opposite. For me as a pro, our job is
Speaker 3: to give the best experience to a celebrity.
Speaker 1: But you do that and then you get the mirror ball.
Speaker 1: You guys do that. That's what I think everyone needs
Speaker 1: to know about this show. The stars of this show
Speaker 1: are the pros.
Speaker 3: See, we're on different sides here. You it's it's about
Speaker 3: you guys and telling your story. Sure, sure, but if
Speaker 3: we get a mirror ball, so Hie. I know, Sophie.
Speaker 3: But even with even with Jordan, I was like, do
Speaker 3: you want to win? And She's like, yeah, I want
Speaker 3: to win. And I was like, guess what, me too good.
Speaker 3: It's like, I think it's all about just like matching
Speaker 3: your partner's energy exactly. Yeah. I mean, but even with Anna,
Speaker 3: I was like, do you want to win? She goes hmmm.
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, we're gonna have a gag. You
Speaker 3: know what. We're gonna have a gag and we're gonna
Speaker 3: have fun doing it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be dazzled your ankle monitor.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, that's was that your idea. Well, I
Speaker 3: remember I talked to production about it and they're like, well,
Speaker 3: we wanted to do it, and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: did you get that approved by the government. Well I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't know. But honestly, I did it in a
Speaker 3: way where she couldn't charge it.
Speaker 2: So wait, you did it yourself, Yes, I did so.
Speaker 3: I did it for rehearsal. No, I'm kidding you. I
Speaker 3: did it for rehearsal. And the next day like, she
Speaker 3: pills them all off and I was like what happened?
Speaker 3: And she goes, I couldn't charge it, and I was
Speaker 3: like I almost got arrested because of me.
Speaker 1: I also never thought about the fact that you have to.
Speaker 3: Charge those you do. We would rehearse. It wasn't it
Speaker 3: was like a giant leave, but like we would be
Speaker 3: rehearsing and then it'd be like you hear like and
Speaker 3: I'm like what is that? And you feel like you're
Speaker 3: like what and it's like, no better, I'm dead. I
Speaker 3: was like five minutes to charge it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, streaming, do you take it off to charge?
Speaker 3: No? She oh, she's gonna kill me. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Her leg was out and you're just kind of sticking
Speaker 3: on there.
Speaker 1: So are you guys still friendly?
Speaker 3: We're not talking right now, you're not talking right now.
Speaker 1: I heard that maybe there was an unfollowed Yeah, there.
Speaker 3: Was definitely an unfollow And you know what, it's okay,
Speaker 3: it's okay.
Speaker 2: We're all on our different journey.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like you you be you boo boo, and
Speaker 3: I'll be me, you know, respectfully.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Okay, I saw that you were recently hanging
Speaker 1: out with Kai sinnat Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wait yeah that was like at the Ace?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, have have you? Have you talked about trying
Speaker 1: to get him on the show.
Speaker 3: I mean every single time I see a producer, I
Speaker 3: talk about how having him on the show.
Speaker 2: You know how massive that I was telling them that,
Speaker 2: like how.
Speaker 3: Massive that would be if he was on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but maybe it's, you know, next season. But okay, I
Speaker 3: definitely feel like he's in the Rolodex of names names
Speaker 3: one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, he definitely showed interest like I was. I
Speaker 3: wasn't expecting him to be as interested as he was,
Speaker 3: Like when I went up to I went up to
Speaker 3: him during the AMAS and he was like doing his
Speaker 3: live stream and I was like to Jenn I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to ask him. She goes like, what
Speaker 3: if he says no, I'm like, then it's a gag
Speaker 3: and I can just like walk away. I wasn't expecting
Speaker 3: him to say yes at all and then just get
Speaker 3: his number and connect.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I hope so, And honestly, if he gets
Speaker 3: on the show, I hope he gets Danny.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I really do feel like it'd be such a good parent.
Speaker 2: That would be a great pairing.
Speaker 1: If you were going to be a celebrity on the show,
Speaker 1: who would be.
Speaker 2: Your Prosha pick?
Speaker 3: Really Russia?
Speaker 1: Do you know how many people have said that to me?
Speaker 2: That is so funny.
Speaker 1: So many people said that to me when I first started,
Speaker 1: Like if I were going to be on the show,
Speaker 1: Pasha be who I pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely feel like he's the most team player,
Speaker 3: most endearing. But also I trained with him growing up,
Speaker 3: so I definitely feel like I can learn the most
Speaker 3: from him. Yeah, and I also like I see his routines.
Speaker 3: His choreography is amazingly even watching his routine with you,
Speaker 3: the figures that he does, the way that he formulates
Speaker 3: it so inspiring. So I feel like as a celebrity
Speaker 3: as just a dancer myself. Like I just love every
Speaker 3: single time I get to work with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the like what a what a gift
Speaker 1: to humanity is Pasha?
Speaker 3: Like, honestly, I love I will. I love him so
Speaker 3: much even on tour. I feel like on tour too,
Speaker 3: you see everyone's side like you We truly do, and
Speaker 3: there is no quarters. There was never a moment where
Speaker 3: Pasha like lost as cool. He was such a gentleman
Speaker 3: to everyone and also just having his daughter out in
Speaker 3: the road with Danny and just see how amazing the
Speaker 3: father he is is like so endearing it really is.
Speaker 1: I know, he said yesterday, he was like during my audition,
Speaker 1: I told them that I was like a bear because
Speaker 1: I could be like I could be cuddly, but I.
Speaker 2: Could also like gurr.
Speaker 1: And I was like, when are you girl, I've never
Speaker 1: seen ger and he was like, I am when I
Speaker 1: need to be ooh oh, Like.
Speaker 5: We're going to backpedal from that one, Okay, I guess
Speaker 5: I don't need the story or whatever, but like, I'm
Speaker 5: so curious, how excited are you to go back out
Speaker 5: on the road for tour?
Speaker 1: Tour was just announced?
Speaker 3: Excited? Yes, yes, I'm so excited. I like last season
Speaker 3: was such a dream come true, and like like the
Speaker 3: show is having a renaissance. So just performing for crowds
Speaker 3: like that in ways that like the show hasn't seen
Speaker 3: in so long is like a dream. It is such
Speaker 3: a dream, Like we're on stage in your ears would
Speaker 3: bleed from how loud people are screaming you. I don't
Speaker 3: think as a performer, I've ever experienced that. For those
Speaker 3: people to scream for you like that is so surreal.
Speaker 2: How many dates are you guys doing?
Speaker 3: I haven't even looked.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just know, like December twelfth, I'm all, there is
Speaker 3: up until May third?
Speaker 1: So wow, December twelfth or May third? Where can people
Speaker 1: buy tickets? Is it DWTS? Yeah, it's like tour dot
Speaker 1: com Yeah, DWTS tour dot com.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay great.
Speaker 3: Would you want to go?
Speaker 2: Yes? I do want to go.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you how how do normal
Speaker 1: how do celebrities normally do it?
Speaker 2: How long do they go?
Speaker 4: What's is it very It's like if it's it's like
Speaker 4: up to you, really, yeah, it's up to you.
Speaker 3: How long you want to go?
Speaker 1: So, like, if I want to take my kids out
Speaker 1: of school, bring a tutor and just go the whole time.
Speaker 3: I mean sure. I mean we got Rome and Nikita,
Speaker 3: so we're we're capable of doing it.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that too?
Speaker 3: Having Nikida out on the road and like whenever Rome
Speaker 3: would come down. I think it just brings so much humanity,
Speaker 3: like humanity does because when you're going city to city
Speaker 3: to city and you're just on a bus and you're
Speaker 3: performing on a bus and performing, it's you see those
Speaker 3: kids and just brings you back to your why. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it just helps keep you pushing.
Speaker 1: Do you want to have kids? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: And do you know what's crazy? And I Toopostia this,
Speaker 3: I never wanted to have kids until I saw how
Speaker 3: he handled Nikita and Danny on the road. Like it
Speaker 3: was like it just I was like, I just never
Speaker 3: thought as a performer and as a dancer, I could
Speaker 3: have kids in this type of climate and environment. You're
Speaker 3: just seeing how they're able to make it work, just
Speaker 3: in their love for each other. Yeah, I hope I
Speaker 3: have that one day. I know.
Speaker 1: It really also helps so much that his mom and dad, Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean, how sweet are they? I know, I asked him,
Speaker 1: because you know, we have two kids and we have
Speaker 1: an annie. Our family doesn't live down the street like
Speaker 1: their family does. But I said, do you guys have
Speaker 1: an Anni? And he was like, no, it's my mom.
Speaker 1: And I was like, that is the perfect scenario. Just
Speaker 1: to have your little tribe be taking care of your
Speaker 1: Family's so great. That's so sweet. You're going to have
Speaker 1: that someday, I hope, so really you will for sure.
Speaker 1: Have you already started thinking of TikTok ideas for the bus?
Speaker 3: They'll just come to me, I guess. And if you
Speaker 3: got any too, we could do the Void meets World
Speaker 3: themes on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, have fun with that. So TikTok dancing is
Speaker 1: very viby.
Speaker 3: Do you want to my hot take?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Please take? I want to take, me do this and
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 3: To do by this. TikTok has brought so much joy
Speaker 3: and like brought a new lecture the show. But I
Speaker 3: don't think it needs to be on the ballroom floor
Speaker 3: personally as a TikToker, I did not. I did not
Speaker 3: think it. I don't think it belonged there.
Speaker 2: You know what, don't disagree with you?
Speaker 3: Okay? And I also too, like our TikTok week. I
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of people were expecting me to
Speaker 3: do a TikTok dance in my dance and I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I just don't think.
Speaker 1: Pasha and I didn't do it either. Yeah, Pasha and
Speaker 1: I said, the way we're incorporating TikTok is that we
Speaker 1: are using a song that grows viral on TikTok.
Speaker 2: Yes, but we are not going to do the TikTok
Speaker 2: dance part. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree, And I also think it was a very
Speaker 1: polarizing thing for the audience. One of the incredible things
Speaker 1: about Dancing with the Stars is that, especially right now,
Speaker 1: it feels like everyone would like a safe space to
Speaker 1: be able to go for no politics, yes and maybe
Speaker 1: just pure joy. And TikTok was a little like half
Speaker 1: the audience is like, what even is TikTok? I don't
Speaker 1: know these songs, I don't know these dances. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure why we're doing this. And then the TikTok audience
Speaker 1: was then not really thrilled that it wasn't enough TikTok. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm and so no one really felt I agree, No
Speaker 1: one really. I didn't I don't know that it would
Speaker 1: need to happen again. I will say that who won
Speaker 1: the Internet during TikTok Week was on the comment about
Speaker 1: Lauren and Brandon going home on TikTok Week, Instagram wrote
Speaker 1: would have never happened on Instagram night.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but that we've never had a social media night.
Speaker 1: I know Instagram won the night as far as.
Speaker 3: Look at that leting how that turned out? Wow.
Speaker 1: So I have been asking everybody who's come on the show,
Speaker 1: this as someone who has not only seen all of
Speaker 1: my routines but has had a close seat, if you
Speaker 1: had one piece of advice for me moving forward, if
Speaker 1: you could just get me one thing that you think
Speaker 1: would help me, what do you think it would be?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I feel like my advice for you
Speaker 3: to trust the process? Okay, yeah, I mean you have
Speaker 3: such a good pro you really do. And I do
Speaker 3: believe that you have such a good head on your
Speaker 3: shoulders too about the whole journey and everything. So, and
Speaker 3: I'm sure everyone told you this too. Enjoy it, yeah,
Speaker 3: have fun, but also just trust the process. Every single
Speaker 3: week is an ebb and flow of disaster and then
Speaker 3: trying to piece it all together and then magically it
Speaker 3: always works out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just trust it.
Speaker 3: But honestly, like you're in such good hands, I don't
Speaker 3: know what else I could.
Speaker 6: Say to elevate your experience, like truthfully, well, like Mandy
Speaker 6: Moore when we had Mandy Moore on the podcast, Mandy
Speaker 6: Moore said, go bigger, be bigger, just there's no room
Speaker 6: for subtlety on the ballroom floor.
Speaker 1: Which as an actor, someone who spends a lot of
Speaker 1: time being subtle assuming the camera will pick it up,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna help, no girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely agree with that, especially on camera things
Speaker 3: are a little bit smaller, so you has to dance
Speaker 3: a little bit bigger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm struggling with that. I'll be honest, Like in
Speaker 2: the room.
Speaker 1: You know, Pasha's like and there's a big sweeping arm movement,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, and what if I do it like
Speaker 1: a little more subdued.
Speaker 3: But sometimes it doesn't mean dance it bigger, just means
Speaker 3: have more tone. Yeah, because if someone told me to
Speaker 3: raise my arm and all like this, Yeah, there's a
Speaker 3: difference between that and this, right, Like just they're just
Speaker 3: having a little bit more muscle tone in my arm.
Speaker 2: It just it'll make your movement unless you're doing cha chaw.
Speaker 1: And then the amount of times I had stiff arms
Speaker 1: and Pashua was like, Danielle, what are those arms? You
Speaker 1: cannot do that? Please relax your arms like and I
Speaker 1: was like I can't.
Speaker 3: Well those give yourself grace because those technically are the
Speaker 3: hardest styles for women on the show Women's Celebrities, Chasha
Speaker 3: and Rumba. Those have jam packed technique and not in
Speaker 3: close holds. So you're like, there, yeah.
Speaker 1: That was a terrible week for me to be injured.
Speaker 3: Then yes, but then also, okay, okay, I'm gonna clock
Speaker 3: Pasha because you're injured. And then I started a dance
Speaker 3: a car will into a split Pasha and was handy,
Speaker 3: was it the hammy?
Speaker 1: It was my hamst It like it was a left
Speaker 1: It was a left split.
Speaker 3: So it was my left safe day.
Speaker 1: So that was okay. The cartwheel was making me nervous,
Speaker 1: but he kept He was like, do we just take
Speaker 1: it out? We just take it out?
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, we got this.
Speaker 1: But then that day, like my legs and I couldn't
Speaker 1: even feel my kneecaps. I was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if my legs straight or not can't even feel my knee.
Speaker 3: Anyway, We're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. If I get a redemption dance,
Speaker 1: I want to do my Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope you get a redemption dance.
Speaker 1: Ezra. Thank you so much for being here. I am
Speaker 1: absolutely rooting for you, and I think you are such
Speaker 1: a delight and so much fun to be around. I
Speaker 1: light up every time I see you. I just really
Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much. I respect you so much.
Speaker 1: You bring so much to the show, and I love
Speaker 1: seeing your partnership with Jordan, And even though we are
Speaker 1: quote unquote in competition, I hope we're.
Speaker 3: In the land to the end, to the end.
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go final, and I'm rooting for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you really are like your journey and seeing how
Speaker 3: you are with Pasha is truly the heart of the show.
Speaker 3: So I hope you know, like the impact you're making
Speaker 3: is huge.
Speaker 1: Thank you, babes, of course, thank you for being here.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
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