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Speaker 1: Welcome to Danielle with the Stars. I am Danielle Fishall,

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Speaker 1: a TV director, a podcaster to Panga, to the many

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Speaker 1: baristas who write my name on my coffee cups, and

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Speaker 1: a mom of two little boys. But as of just

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Speaker 1: a month ago, you can add aspiring ballroom dancer to

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Speaker 1: my resume because I am competing on season thirty four

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Speaker 1: of Dancing with the Stars, airing every Tuesday night on

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Speaker 1: ABC and Disney Plus. And in addition to learning the

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Speaker 1: quick Step, the Cha Cha, the Argentine Tango, I am

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Speaker 1: also recording a podcast along the way so that you,

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Speaker 1: my dear listeners, can follow as I try my hardest

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Speaker 1: to claim my very own Len Goodman Mirror Ball Trophy.

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Speaker 1: And throughout the season, I'm sitting down with fellow contestants

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Speaker 1: and pro to talk about the experience, their personal journey

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Speaker 1: to what is currently the number one show in America,

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Speaker 1: and what I, as a dancer, need to do to

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Speaker 1: get better. And today I am talking to one of

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Speaker 1: the main reasons Dancing with the Stars is in the

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Speaker 1: middle of a renaissance twenty years after its premiere and

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Speaker 1: now a staple on your for you page, he quickly

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Speaker 1: became the gen z liaison between social media and the

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Speaker 1: ballroom dancing TV show when he joined for season thirty

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Speaker 1: one as a member of the troupe. Then he got

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Speaker 1: a last minute call in season thirty two when Artam

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Speaker 1: caught COVID and like a fabulous Clark kent On went

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Speaker 1: the cape and dance shoes and it went so well

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Speaker 1: he was promoted to pro the very next season and

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Speaker 1: paired with the controversial true crime favorite Anna Delvey, where

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Speaker 1: they were eliminated first yet the effect of their partnership

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Speaker 1: will live on forever, and now he is killing it

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Speaker 1: alongside Olympic gold medalist and all around badass Jordan Chiles,

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Speaker 1: becoming this season's undeniable redemption story, taking a first week

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Speaker 1: disappointment and quickly turning their partnership into a first place

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Speaker 1: front runner. Please welcome to Danielle with the Stars. A

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Speaker 1: truly spectacular dancer, the reason I had to step up

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Speaker 1: my TikTok game, and a genuine cutie Patuti.

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Speaker 2: It's Ezrasosa Jesus Louise.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was amazing, and that was like

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Speaker 3: one that was like one you've read all that you read.

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Speaker 3: I wow, I could never wow talk about popcorn reading

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Speaker 3: that was incredible. I like, moves, you haven't even started

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Speaker 1: That's it, that's it. Welcome now you could leave.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm very honored to be here. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: having me.

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Speaker 2: I am so happy you're here.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned that you and Jordan kind of immediately started

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Speaker 1: off as a redemption story. I have to say though,

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Speaker 1: I loved Week ones Dance. I know, going first to

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Speaker 1: kick off such a big season, the twentieth anniversary, the

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Speaker 1: thirty fourth season, a stacked competitive year. What how did

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Speaker 1: you feel when you found out you guys were going first.

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Speaker 3: I was kind of excited. Yeah, because the season on

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Speaker 3: four I was last. Okay, so I was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm like I'm just comparing bad juju out of the

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, I don't ever want to

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Speaker 3: do that again. Yeah, it was a tough one for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's tough. You don't really have a ton of time

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Speaker 3: Right before or even gauge how anyone's doing. Like you

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Speaker 3: just don't know what the competition's like. You know, it's feerce,

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Speaker 3: but we're like, we're just going to go out there

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Speaker 1: Also, I don't know if anyone else feels this way.

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Speaker 1: I think some people do online. But do you feel

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Speaker 3: Like absolutely, I think as the judges are watching the

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Speaker 3: why it's so hard judging, because how are you going

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Speaker 1: I feel for them every week. Every time Carrie Anne

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Speaker 3: I'm like, she's doing her job. She's doing her job.

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Speaker 1: Also, I want someone in that position who has a

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Speaker 3: If I'm being completely honest too. I do feel like

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Speaker 3: Jordan and I we struggle when they don't have feedback

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Speaker 3: then it was like now that's like now there's like

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Speaker 3: we're both true competitors totally, and so when it comes

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Speaker 3: to anything that judges have to say, if there's any feedback,

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Speaker 3: I think we we like that a lot more than

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Speaker 1: You will actually thrive on the criticism, yes, because it

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Speaker 1: turning it into improvement. And no matter where you start

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Speaker 1: were at the beginning. And the only way to do

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Speaker 3: And know who better than the judges on.

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Speaker 1: The show on the show, exactly, absolutely, So obviously a

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Speaker 1: Delvi was not necessarily a dancer.

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Speaker 2: You were given a redemption operation.

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Speaker 3: She told me she was okay, she told me she

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Speaker 1: No, Well you didn't get a redemption opportunity with her

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Speaker 1: she also probably has to go on that redemption journey alone.

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Speaker 3: It's giving on her own time.

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Speaker 1: It's giving solo journey. But are there any ideas you

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so many things, but also too like

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Speaker 3: But I was like, what do you mean we can't

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Speaker 3: I honestly they like, I feel like in the packages too,

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Speaker 3: on the show, she was a fashionist.

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Speaker 4: Stuff, a fashionista, Yes, a fashionist stuff was doing okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. And now it will live forever because

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Speaker 1: you commemorated.

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Speaker 3: Yes as a gay man. How iconic is that?

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Speaker 1: Like, it's the most iconic thing I've ever heard a

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Speaker 1: know you had competed on So you think you can dance,

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Speaker 1: and your Utah roots connected you to many of the pros.

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Speaker 1: But how did getting on Troop come together?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I feel like it's just like everything

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Speaker 3: So by the time I actually auditioned for so you

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Speaker 1: How do you prepare to teach someone else to dance?

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Speaker 3: You don't, I mean unless you have teaching experience, but

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you know through Pasha, like he has to

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Speaker 1: Can we talk a little bit about the music, music

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Speaker 1: So there are so many things. One you want to

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Speaker 1: want to love it. It has to fit a certain rhythm,

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Speaker 1: It has to fit the theme of the week. Can

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Speaker 1: we talk about Disneyland this week?

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Speaker 4: But I think you guys were underscored. Really, just guess

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It was so much fun. It's my favorite

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Speaker 3: It's just such a special song. I really is. And

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Speaker 1: That's so special. I want to talk to you about

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, are you chronically online year round or you know, okay, okay, good.

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Speaker 1: You're right that, like we are, the point of social

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Speaker 1: The personality, unless you want to just be a personality,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's the comments You're like going through it

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Speaker 3: How do you think I got the job? I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I deserve some credit for that. Yes I do, Yes, absolutely, Okay,

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Speaker 1: You're taking Brandon to get a tattoo that says pissed

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Speaker 1: I'm really glad I mean, honestly, it's so. It's so

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Speaker 3: Who do you think? Girl? Who do you think? I'm yes? Literally,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know how I can. Oh. I sent

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Speaker 1: greatest things I've ever seen. You are such a pivotal

437
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Speaker 1: part of ushering in a whole new demographic to Dancing

438
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: with the Stars. No one could have predicted thirty four

439
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 1: seasons in the show would be having, I mean, a

440
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: total rebirth. It's more popular now than it has ever been.

441
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: With that said, there is still a large population of

442
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: viewership that's part of the shall we say, Old Guard,

443
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: you know, and now you're helping bring in a whole new, young,

444
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 1: more open minded audience. How do you feel the intersection

445
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: of these audiences, how do you feel the intersection is going.

446
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: I'm this is a little bit of a deeper question.

447
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that is that is a deeper question. You know.

448
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 3: I find it interesting because I say, like Old Guard

449
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: is like Instagram. Okay, okay, okay, I'm sorry, I'm an

450
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 3: old If you're if Instagram is your thing, I'm so sorry.

451
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: I am so sorry. Okay, okay, But you know, TikTok

452
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 3: is where my huge or a huge part of my audiences,

453
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 3: which is a huge part of the new audience that

454
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 3: is coming to Dancing with the Stars. But I always

455
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 3: find interesting how things perform different differently on different platforms,

456
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 3: even if it's the same video. But sometimes a video

457
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 3: of yours will see a different side of the Internet

458
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 3: which probably shouldn't see it, right, and then it's just

459
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: gonna get a different reaction, maybe one that you're not

460
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 3: really hoping for.

461
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: I feel very old now that I've lived through enough

462
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: things that like my space.

463
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: My Space was one of them.

464
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 3: Let's bring your back, you know what.

465
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: My Space is already, It's been enough time that it's back.

466
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: It's cool in a nostalgic way. Facebook used to be

467
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: for old people. What is Facebook Now? Facebook's just for

468
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: for the ancient.

469
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 3: I think we kind of forgot about Facebook. Yeah, is

470
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 3: Facebook the my space?

471
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Facebook is the new MySpace, Instagram

472
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: is the new Facebook.

473
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: And then TikTok is TikTok, tik Talk is TikTok.

474
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 3: Wow, there's a lot of keys to keep up with.

475
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 2: I know, it is a lot to keep yeah, it is.

476
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 1: It's also some of the I'm seeing a lot of

477
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 1: questions online about judging, in particular now that there is

478
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: a whole new fan base watching the show sometimes for

479
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: the very first time.

480
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 3: I think it's funny. I think I saw him for Sorry,

481
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: I was being like, wait, I thought Derek and Mark

482
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: were together, Like I'm screaming, I'm screaming. I'm like both

483
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 3: happily married.

484
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not to each other and not to each other. Right,

485
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: so funny. Well, I know that now that there are

486
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: all these newer, younger viewers who have never seen it,

487
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: and they really want to try to understand all the

488
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: aspects of the show. So they're like, wait a minute.

489
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: The voting closes at eight, but then the person who

490
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: goes last, you only have a few minutes to vote

491
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: for that person. The judges scores count for roughly fifty

492
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: percent every I mean, the amount of people doing stats

493
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: and math problems.

494
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: And I also don't.

495
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 4: Understand guess what I also don't understand. I know there's

496
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 4: no syllabus.

497
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 3: No, there isn't a syllabus, but I think that's called producing, right, yeah,

498
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: then it's called producing.

499
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, show exactly, I know.

500
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 1: And I did. I did see someone somewhere found like

501
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: something on one of the original maybe the Dancing with

502
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 1: the Star's website, where there was like some sort of

503
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: breakdown about.

504
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: And did it make sense if you understand stats.

505
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if I actually look at it. No, Honestly,

506
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: I feel like every single showdown, I'm like this, I

507
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 3: don't know.

508
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: Just whatever we do, what we do.

509
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: I mean, look at Lauren and Brandon, we thought they

510
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: were chilling, and then next thing, you know, you just.

511
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: Never know, I know, was Jordan, And I mean we

512
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: were all shocked.

513
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: She's a harmonizer. She was distraught like she was. She

514
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 3: didn't want to go through press after. I know, I

515
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, but I like she deserved to stay longer.

516
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 3: I will stand on that, yeah, and I completely agree

517
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: like she, I don't. I also feel like she didn't

518
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: really fully get to share her story, which we all

519
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 3: knew her. She was such a nice and lovely girl,

520
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: and it's like it just makes it that much worse

521
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: when they have to leave so soon.

522
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: I know, I couldn't agree with you more. And I

523
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: every time I saw Lauren I felt better after seeing her.

524
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: She was just one of those people uplifted everyone.

525
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I every single time always felt good around her.

526
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: So I was very sad to see her go. And

527
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: I know how much Jordan and did.

528
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: They know each other before the season, But when Jordan

529
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 3: met Lauren, Jordan was going to pass out, like she

530
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: was so excited to meet her.

531
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 2: She's a big fan, big fan.

532
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: That is so sweet. It seems like every week there

533
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: is a new philosophical question online surrounding the show, and

534
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about this. First, is the

535
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: idea of prior dance experience?

536
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: Oh, here we go on.

537
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts.

538
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: On what the perfect amount of prior dance experience is

539
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: for a celebrity to have.

540
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: I think I don't think there. I don't think it

541
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: should matter. Okay, honestly, I really don't because you look

542
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: at people like Hilaria and Glub. She had incredible dance experience,

543
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: but people at home weren't really necessarily able to connect

544
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: with her. But then you have someone like Andy who

545
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: doesn't have near as much dance experience, but he gained

546
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: such a huge audience just through his heart and through

547
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: his personality. And I do feel like what's making this

548
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: season so strong is the different varieties of dance experience. Yeah.

549
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: My thing is, if you're under the umbrella of star,

550
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: you're welcome to be on the ballroom floor. That and

551
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: that is and I really do stand by that because

552
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: you really look up Whitney and Mark, like, we wouldn't

553
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 3: have had the room where it happens if it wasn't

554
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 3: for the two of them together in that moment.

555
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: I know.

556
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: And it's like that dance routine was pure magic.

557
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: It really was. It really was.

558
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: No, You're absolutely right. I think that's a great way

559
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: of thinking about it. If you fall under the umbrella

560
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: of star, you are welcome to be on the ballroom

561
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: floor and dance is. I've mentioned this now to everybody

562
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: who's come on, and I probably sound like a bit

563
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: of a stupid broken record because duh. But as somebody

564
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: who's worked in multiple aspects of the entertainment industry as

565
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: an actor, as a dancer, as a writer, as a producer.

566
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: Did I say as a dancer?

567
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: I didn't. Yes, I mean now as almost everything other

568
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: than a dancer until now to really understand how much

569
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: dance is in just another form of storytelling and expression

570
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: and connection with the audience. You're exactly right, Andy is

571
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: connecting to the audience through this medium that even without

572
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: having the experience, the point of the show is about

573
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: telling that story. And the point of the show isn't

574
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: necessarily who's the best dancer, it's who's your favorite dancer?

575
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: Who do you want to see dance again? Next week?

576
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: I see a couple of you know, people sometimes forget

577
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: that they can vote for more than one couple, and

578
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, it's just so hard because I'm really

579
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: voting for you.

580
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: Know, Jordan is like ten couples per vote.

581
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: Ten couples per vote, ten votes per couple exactly, so

582
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: you can vote for more than one. And so that's

583
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: what I always tell people, because I'm like, guys, especially

584
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: before we get to the finale. Once you get to

585
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: the finale, you're gonna have to choose yes, sure, yes,

586
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: but vote for every couple you want to see in

587
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: the finale, because don't you want to curate the end.

588
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: So anyone you feel like you want to see dance

589
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: again because you connected with the dance, or you connected

590
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: with the story, or you connected with it. We are

591
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: storytelling and you have to if you connect with the story,

592
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: place your vote. So okay, well, thank you for answering that,

593
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: because I welcome I love it. Are you more interested

594
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: as not only a pro on the show, but as

595
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: a viewer, are you more interested in the journey of

596
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: a celebrity or just an impressive dance.

597
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: Journey of the celebrity. I also feel like, as as

598
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: a dancer, I respect someone's journeying when they start from

599
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: the ground up. And you eveno alone to last season, like,

600
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: her message was so powerful and even though she didn't

601
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: win a Mirror Ball, I just like I told her,

602
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: your message in your journey on the show was a

603
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: lot bigger than winning a Mirror Ball, and that's me

604
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: is so powerful. But you know, sometimes but also you

605
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: need like stellar routine to like really amplify the show.

606
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: But to me, personally, I love a dancer's journey.

607
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: Oh, I couldn't agree more. Also, I probably shouldn't say this,

608
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: but I'm going to anyway. I feel like, for at

609
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: least for myself, I'll only speak for myself. I can't

610
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: speak for anyone else. I want to win the Mirror Ball,

611
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: but not even so much for me.

612
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: I want to win for Pasha.

613
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so stee.

614
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: I want Pasha to have the mirror Ball that I think, you.

615
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 3: Know, I think Pasha deserves a mirror Ball too.

616
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: I feel like for me, my goal is exactly what

617
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: you said about Alona. My story, my story, and this

618
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: journey for me is the win. And where like when

619
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: I was in the bottom three last week and I

620
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: was standing up there and I know they say the

621
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: bottom three doesn't necessarily mean the bottom three, but still

622
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: you're staying.

623
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: You're there, You're there.

624
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: You're you are there, could be your name, that is.

625
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: But they were playing games, they were playing games with you.

626
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: I was not, and I was backstage with Danny. Oh someone.

627
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: I was like, kind of backs like, Danny's not going

628
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: to be Pasha, like it's not and it's not, it

629
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: is not happening.

630
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have seen Danny's face.

631
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: Well, no, you wouldn't have because you made it so no,

632
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: no one wanted to see that.

633
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: But when you're standing up there, you have all these

634
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: thoughts that flashed through your head. And it was amazing

635
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: to me, for as competitive as I am, how quickly

636
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: I went from oh God, I really hope that it's

637
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: not us too, but if it is us, I have

638
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: loved every single second I have spent here with these

639
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: people and no regrets, no regrets. So I got But

640
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: but so the mirror ball I feel in my opinion

641
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: is more for you guys, the mirror ball belongs to you.

642
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: But do you know what's crazy? I think I think

643
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: the opposite. For me as a pro, our job is

644
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: to give the best experience to a celebrity.

645
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: But you do that and then you get the mirror ball.

646
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: You guys do that. That's what I think everyone needs

647
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: to know about this show. The stars of this show

648
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: are the pros.

649
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 3: See, we're on different sides here. You it's it's about

650
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: you guys and telling your story. Sure, sure, but if

651
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: we get a mirror ball, so Hie. I know, Sophie.

652
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: But even with even with Jordan, I was like, do

653
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: you want to win? And She's like, yeah, I want

654
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: to win. And I was like, guess what, me too good.

655
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: It's like, I think it's all about just like matching

656
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: your partner's energy exactly. Yeah. I mean, but even with Anna,

657
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: I was like, do you want to win? She goes hmmm.

658
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, we're gonna have a gag. You

659
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: know what. We're gonna have a gag and we're gonna

660
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: have fun doing it.

661
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna be dazzled your ankle monitor.

662
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: So I'm like, that's was that your idea. Well, I

663
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: remember I talked to production about it and they're like, well,

664
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: we wanted to do it, and I was like, well,

665
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: did you get that approved by the government. Well I didn't.

666
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know. But honestly, I did it in a

667
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: way where she couldn't charge it.

668
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: So wait, you did it yourself, Yes, I did so.

669
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: I did it for rehearsal. No, I'm kidding you. I

670
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: did it for rehearsal. And the next day like, she

671
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: pills them all off and I was like what happened?

672
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: And she goes, I couldn't charge it, and I was

673
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: like I almost got arrested because of me.

674
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: I also never thought about the fact that you have to.

675
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: Charge those you do. We would rehearse. It wasn't it

676
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: was like a giant leave, but like we would be

677
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: rehearsing and then it'd be like you hear like and

678
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: I'm like what is that? And you feel like you're

679
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: like what and it's like, no better, I'm dead. I

680
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: was like five minutes to charge it.

681
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, streaming, do you take it off to charge?

682
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 3: No? She oh, she's gonna kill me. Oh yeah, yeah.

683
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 3: Her leg was out and you're just kind of sticking

684
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: on there.

685
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: So are you guys still friendly?

686
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: We're not talking right now, you're not talking right now.

687
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: I heard that maybe there was an unfollowed Yeah, there.

688
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: Was definitely an unfollow And you know what, it's okay,

689
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: it's okay.

690
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: We're all on our different journey.

691
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like you you be you boo boo, and

692
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: I'll be me, you know, respectfully.

693
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Okay, I saw that you were recently hanging

694
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: out with Kai sinnat Yeah.

695
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 3: Wait yeah that was like at the Ace?

696
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, have have you? Have you talked about trying

697
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: to get him on the show.

698
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: I mean every single time I see a producer, I

699
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: talk about how having him on the show.

700
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: You know how massive that I was telling them that,

701
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: like how.

702
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: Massive that would be if he was on the show. Yeah,

703
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: but maybe it's, you know, next season. But okay, I

704
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 3: definitely feel like he's in the Rolodex of names names

705
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: one hundred percent.

706
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

707
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: I mean, he definitely showed interest like I was. I

708
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: wasn't expecting him to be as interested as he was,

709
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: Like when I went up to I went up to

710
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: him during the AMAS and he was like doing his

711
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: live stream and I was like to Jenn I was like,

712
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: I'm just going to ask him. She goes like, what

713
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: if he says no, I'm like, then it's a gag

714
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 3: and I can just like walk away. I wasn't expecting

715
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: him to say yes at all and then just get

716
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: his number and connect.

717
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

718
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I hope so, And honestly, if he gets

719
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: on the show, I hope he gets Danny.

720
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: Oh.

721
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 3: I really do feel like it'd be such a good parent.

722
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: That would be a great pairing.

723
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: If you were going to be a celebrity on the show,

724
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: who would be.

725
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: Your Prosha pick?

726
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 3: Really Russia?

727
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: Do you know how many people have said that to me?

728
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: That is so funny.

729
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: So many people said that to me when I first started,

730
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: Like if I were going to be on the show,

731
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: Pasha be who I pick.

732
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely feel like he's the most team player,

733
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 3: most endearing. But also I trained with him growing up,

734
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 3: so I definitely feel like I can learn the most

735
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: from him. Yeah, and I also like I see his routines.

736
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: His choreography is amazingly even watching his routine with you,

737
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: the figures that he does, the way that he formulates

738
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: it so inspiring. So I feel like as a celebrity

739
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: as just a dancer myself. Like I just love every

740
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: single time I get to work with him.

741
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the like what a what a gift

742
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: to humanity is Pasha?

743
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: Like, honestly, I love I will. I love him so

744
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: much even on tour. I feel like on tour too,

745
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: you see everyone's side like you We truly do, and

746
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: there is no quarters. There was never a moment where

747
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: Pasha like lost as cool. He was such a gentleman

748
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: to everyone and also just having his daughter out in

749
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: the road with Danny and just see how amazing the

750
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: father he is is like so endearing it really is.

751
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: I know, he said yesterday, he was like during my audition,

752
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: I told them that I was like a bear because

753
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: I could be like I could be cuddly, but I.

754
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: Could also like gurr.

755
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: And I was like, when are you girl, I've never

756
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: seen ger and he was like, I am when I

757
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: need to be ooh oh, Like.

758
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 5: We're going to backpedal from that one, Okay, I guess

759
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 5: I don't need the story or whatever, but like, I'm

760
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 5: so curious, how excited are you to go back out

761
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 5: on the road for tour?

762
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: Tour was just announced?

763
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: Excited? Yes, yes, I'm so excited. I like last season

764
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: was such a dream come true, and like like the

765
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: show is having a renaissance. So just performing for crowds

766
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: like that in ways that like the show hasn't seen

767
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: in so long is like a dream. It is such

768
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: a dream, Like we're on stage in your ears would

769
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 3: bleed from how loud people are screaming you. I don't

770
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 3: think as a performer, I've ever experienced that. For those

771
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: people to scream for you like that is so surreal.

772
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: How many dates are you guys doing?

773
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: I haven't even looked.

774
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know.

775
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: I just know, like December twelfth, I'm all, there is

776
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: up until May third?

777
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: So wow, December twelfth or May third? Where can people

778
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: buy tickets? Is it DWTS? Yeah, it's like tour dot

779
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: com Yeah, DWTS tour dot com.

780
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay great.

781
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: Would you want to go?

782
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: Yes? I do want to go.

783
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you how how do normal

784
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: how do celebrities normally do it?

785
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: How long do they go?

786
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: What's is it very It's like if it's it's like

787
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: up to you, really, yeah, it's up to you.

788
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: How long you want to go?

789
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: So, like, if I want to take my kids out

790
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: of school, bring a tutor and just go the whole time.

791
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: I mean sure. I mean we got Rome and Nikita,

792
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: so we're we're capable of doing it.

793
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that too?

794
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: Having Nikida out on the road and like whenever Rome

795
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: would come down. I think it just brings so much humanity,

796
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: like humanity does because when you're going city to city

797
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: to city and you're just on a bus and you're

798
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: performing on a bus and performing, it's you see those

799
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: kids and just brings you back to your why. Yeah,

800
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: and it just helps keep you pushing.

801
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: Do you want to have kids? Yeah?

802
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

803
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: And do you know what's crazy? And I Toopostia this,

804
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: I never wanted to have kids until I saw how

805
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 3: he handled Nikita and Danny on the road. Like it

806
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: was like it just I was like, I just never

807
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: thought as a performer and as a dancer, I could

808
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: have kids in this type of climate and environment. You're

809
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: just seeing how they're able to make it work, just

810
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: in their love for each other. Yeah, I hope I

811
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: have that one day. I know.

812
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: It really also helps so much that his mom and dad, Yes,

813
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, how sweet are they? I know, I asked him,

814
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: because you know, we have two kids and we have

815
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: an annie. Our family doesn't live down the street like

816
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: their family does. But I said, do you guys have

817
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: an Anni? And he was like, no, it's my mom.

818
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, that is the perfect scenario. Just

819
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: to have your little tribe be taking care of your

820
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Family's so great. That's so sweet. You're going to have

821
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: that someday, I hope, so really you will for sure.

822
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: Have you already started thinking of TikTok ideas for the bus?

823
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: They'll just come to me, I guess. And if you

824
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: got any too, we could do the Void meets World

825
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: themes on it.

826
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean, have fun with that. So TikTok dancing is

827
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: very viby.

828
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: Do you want to my hot take?

829
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

830
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: Please take? I want to take, me do this and

831
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: I want.

832
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: To do by this. TikTok has brought so much joy

833
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: and like brought a new lecture the show. But I

834
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 3: don't think it needs to be on the ballroom floor

835
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: personally as a TikToker, I did not. I did not

836
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: think it. I don't think it belonged there.

837
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: You know what, don't disagree with you?

838
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: Okay? And I also too, like our TikTok week. I

839
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of people were expecting me to

840
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: do a TikTok dance in my dance and I was like, no,

841
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I just don't think.

842
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: Pasha and I didn't do it either. Yeah, Pasha and

843
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: I said, the way we're incorporating TikTok is that we

844
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: are using a song that grows viral on TikTok.

845
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: Yes, but we are not going to do the TikTok

846
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: dance part. Yeah.

847
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: I agree, And I also think it was a very

848
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: polarizing thing for the audience. One of the incredible things

849
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: about Dancing with the Stars is that, especially right now,

850
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: it feels like everyone would like a safe space to

851
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: be able to go for no politics, yes and maybe

852
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: just pure joy. And TikTok was a little like half

853
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: the audience is like, what even is TikTok? I don't

854
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: know these songs, I don't know these dances. I'm not

855
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: sure why we're doing this. And then the TikTok audience

856
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: was then not really thrilled that it wasn't enough TikTok. Yeah,

857
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm and so no one really felt I agree, No

858
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: one really. I didn't I don't know that it would

859
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: need to happen again. I will say that who won

860
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: the Internet during TikTok Week was on the comment about

861
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: Lauren and Brandon going home on TikTok Week, Instagram wrote

862
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: would have never happened on Instagram night.

863
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but that we've never had a social media night.

864
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: I know Instagram won the night as far as.

865
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: Look at that leting how that turned out? Wow.

866
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: So I have been asking everybody who's come on the show,

867
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: this as someone who has not only seen all of

868
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: my routines but has had a close seat, if you

869
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: had one piece of advice for me moving forward, if

870
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: you could just get me one thing that you think

871
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: would help me, what do you think it would be?

872
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I feel like my advice for you

873
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: to trust the process? Okay, yeah, I mean you have

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00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: such a good pro you really do. And I do

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00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: believe that you have such a good head on your

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00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: shoulders too about the whole journey and everything. So, and

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00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure everyone told you this too. Enjoy it, yeah,

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00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 3: have fun, but also just trust the process. Every single

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00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 3: week is an ebb and flow of disaster and then

880
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: trying to piece it all together and then magically it

881
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 3: always works out.

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00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just trust it.

883
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 3: But honestly, like you're in such good hands, I don't

884
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: know what else I could.

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00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 6: Say to elevate your experience, like truthfully, well, like Mandy

886
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 6: Moore when we had Mandy Moore on the podcast, Mandy

887
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 6: Moore said, go bigger, be bigger, just there's no room

888
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 6: for subtlety on the ballroom floor.

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00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: Which as an actor, someone who spends a lot of

890
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: time being subtle assuming the camera will pick it up,

891
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: that's not gonna help, no girl.

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00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely agree with that, especially on camera things

893
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: are a little bit smaller, so you has to dance

894
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 3: a little bit bigger.

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00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm struggling with that. I'll be honest, Like in

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00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: the room.

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00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: You know, Pasha's like and there's a big sweeping arm movement,

898
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: and I'm like, and what if I do it like

899
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: a little more subdued.

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00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: But sometimes it doesn't mean dance it bigger, just means

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00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: have more tone. Yeah, because if someone told me to

902
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: raise my arm and all like this, Yeah, there's a

903
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: difference between that and this, right, Like just they're just

904
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: having a little bit more muscle tone in my arm.

905
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: It just it'll make your movement unless you're doing cha chaw.

906
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: And then the amount of times I had stiff arms

907
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: and Pashua was like, Danielle, what are those arms? You

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00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: cannot do that? Please relax your arms like and I

909
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: was like I can't.

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00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: Well those give yourself grace because those technically are the

911
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: hardest styles for women on the show Women's Celebrities, Chasha

912
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: and Rumba. Those have jam packed technique and not in

913
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 3: close holds. So you're like, there, yeah.

914
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: That was a terrible week for me to be injured.

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00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: Then yes, but then also, okay, okay, I'm gonna clock

916
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: Pasha because you're injured. And then I started a dance

917
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: a car will into a split Pasha and was handy,

918
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: was it the hammy?

919
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: It was my hamst It like it was a left

920
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: It was a left split.

921
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: So it was my left safe day.

922
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: So that was okay. The cartwheel was making me nervous,

923
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: but he kept He was like, do we just take

924
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: it out? We just take it out?

925
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, we got this.

926
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Speaker 1: But then that day, like my legs and I couldn't

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Speaker 1: even feel my kneecaps. I was like, I don't know

928
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: if my legs straight or not can't even feel my knee.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, We're gonna do it.

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00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. If I get a redemption dance,

931
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Speaker 1: I want to do my Yeah.

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00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope you get a redemption dance.

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Speaker 1: Ezra. Thank you so much for being here. I am

934
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: absolutely rooting for you, and I think you are such

935
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: a delight and so much fun to be around. I

936
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: light up every time I see you. I just really

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00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much. I respect you so much.

938
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: You bring so much to the show, and I love

939
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: seeing your partnership with Jordan, And even though we are

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00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: quote unquote in competition, I hope we're.

941
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: In the land to the end, to the end.

942
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go final, and I'm rooting for you.

943
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: Thank you.

944
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you really are like your journey and seeing how

945
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: you are with Pasha is truly the heart of the show.

946
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 3: So I hope you know, like the impact you're making

947
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: is huge.

948
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Speaker 1: Thank you, babes, of course, thank you for being here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: See you soon. Danielle with the Stars produced and hosted

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Speaker 1: by Danielle Fischl. Executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman,

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Speaker 1: Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo producer, editor and

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00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: engineer Tara Sudbosch. Theme song by Justin Siegel. Follow us

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