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Speaker 1: Hey, rain Drops.
Speaker 2: On today's episode of Reality with the King, he is back. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm being very honest. I kept thinking to myself, Carlos,
Speaker 2: just recap this episode solo. It's fine, just do it,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, I think I owe it to
Speaker 2: the rain drops for the season premiere season nine. Wait,
Speaker 2: not nine, that's Potomac. It's like season like fourteen or something.
Speaker 2: Premiere Season fourteen premiere of the Real housebotsor Beverley Hills,
Speaker 2: and every time we're together we have so much fun.
Speaker 1: And I know you guys love him.
Speaker 2: I do too, but give it up a Daily Mayor
Speaker 2: reporter and I guess my co host, Jock Peters, thanks for.
Speaker 3: Leving me back. You're lucky that I have my life
Speaker 3: and that I am available at the top of the
Speaker 3: half to you, so thank you.
Speaker 2: Well that makes them both of us right, Because he
Speaker 2: said I could do it that five forty five la time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that's like a forty five my time,
Speaker 2: and I'm not doing anything else, but so let's.
Speaker 1: Just do it.
Speaker 2: So I appreciate you so much. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I appreciate you as much as I do.
Speaker 1: Dereed. Let's get right into it.
Speaker 3: She's activated.
Speaker 1: The bitch is back. The bitch is back.
Speaker 2: I am so proud of her because Jock, you and
Speaker 2: I never talked about this in terms of like together
Speaker 2: on a podcast. We tweeted about this. Social media ruined Dereed.
Speaker 2: When she first came on the show her first two seasons,
Speaker 2: she was funny, a brace up, you know, confrontational said However,
Speaker 2: she felt she wasn't trying to, you know, be anything
Speaker 2: by herself, and social media handed her ass to them,
Speaker 2: and I always felt like she's giving us great TV,
Speaker 2: she's being authentic. And then for like the past five
Speaker 2: seasons she coasted and I was like, girl, you gotta go, honey, honey,
Speaker 2: this episode belonged to dri and I think this season
Speaker 2: belongs to her.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Like I knew that she was activated because I had
Speaker 3: already heard through the grapevine that we're getting old school,
Speaker 3: like season one to eat Back, but this is like
Speaker 3: season one to eat on steroids, like through the gate,
Speaker 3: coming in hot. It's almost like it's not too much.
Speaker 3: But I think with someone else you might be like,
Speaker 3: is she acting? Like is this fake? But it's like
Speaker 3: we need it so much on this show because so
Speaker 3: many people on Beverly Hills are afraid to like really
Speaker 3: go there. And she's just like, fuck this, like this
Speaker 3: is like no holds bard uncensored. I'm going in. I
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck who you are. And it was incredible.
Speaker 2: Oh I And in the words of Lisa Barlowe, I'm shaking.
Speaker 1: I'm physically shaking. I also have five lawyers, Lisa Barla,
Speaker 1: but I'm not calling them for this one.
Speaker 2: But I am shaking right, I was so listen. I'm
Speaker 2: a huge Corbridges fan. I am a Kyle Richer stand
Speaker 2: and she is my number one favorite housewife in terms
Speaker 2: of because I gotta be very clear of who I
Speaker 2: did not work with. Okay, of all the girls I
Speaker 2: never worked with, Kyle Richard is my favorite. So I'm
Speaker 2: a huge Kyle fan. Look, Dereet owned this episode, and
Speaker 2: she owned Kyle, and Deree was sending Kyle a strong message.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to play second fiddle to you this season,
Speaker 2: and I'm not protecting you either. I need this job.
Speaker 2: My husband and I are separated. But let's talk about
Speaker 2: the first scene her and Erica Jane. Of all people
Speaker 2: og Beverly Hills Housewives viewers know that those two did
Speaker 2: not get along when Dree got on the show.
Speaker 1: There was pantygaate, p K and Derie.
Speaker 2: We're talking about the fact that Erica Jane was wearing
Speaker 2: a dress with no panties. They could see her her
Speaker 2: woo woo, and they just they were at odds. And
Speaker 2: not only that, Durit made Erica cry on the boat
Speaker 2: in Amsterdam, like this is what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Like DERI was that girl. So to see these two.
Speaker 2: Former like frenemies break bread and talk about her separation
Speaker 2: dagged me.
Speaker 3: Well. I think they're both kind of similar in that,
Speaker 3: for the most part, they don't go after people like
Speaker 3: they react to people. But I don't think they I
Speaker 3: don't think they're unnecessarily mean, Like even when everyone was
Speaker 3: like Eric is so horrible, like she was reacting to
Speaker 3: people like Sutton and Garsel, like poking into her legal issues.
Speaker 3: And I never think that darit really ever like comes
Speaker 3: for anybody in a mean spirited way. Sometimes she'll put
Speaker 3: her foot in her mouth. So I think they're both
Speaker 3: kind of and they're both like they have a lot
Speaker 3: of similarities, and they both love fashion, and they both
Speaker 3: have dated older, wealthy men, and I'm not surprised that
Speaker 3: they're connecting. And also they're on a show where Kyle
Speaker 3: Richards is the queen Bee, and they're never going to
Speaker 3: be the queen Bee. So I think Erica, looking at
Speaker 3: the issues that Deret and Kyle is having, can empathize
Speaker 3: with Deret a lot, because I think it's tough to
Speaker 3: be on a show where you're not the queen Bee,
Speaker 3: and there's a certain level of having to tiptoe around
Speaker 3: that queen to like keep your job and not push
Speaker 3: it like too far with them, you know.
Speaker 1: Totally and listen.
Speaker 2: Crystal on the former Housewive chrystalman Cough recently told Cynthia
Speaker 2: Bailly on their new.
Speaker 1: Podcast that they have together that she was told.
Speaker 2: She never said if it was a producer or a
Speaker 2: cast member, but Crystal alleged that she was told, this
Speaker 2: is Kyle Richard's show and that's just what it is.
Speaker 2: Do you believe that that's sort of like the unspoken
Speaker 2: thing that the cast and producers know, like this show
Speaker 2: is Kyle and we have to all operate under that knowledge.
Speaker 3: Yes, But I do want to add that I don't
Speaker 3: think that Kyle is like some of the other queen
Speaker 3: Bees from other franchises. And I don't think she's like
Speaker 3: Lisa vander Pump where it's like if you cross her,
Speaker 3: she's going to try and like get you off the show.
Speaker 3: I don't think she's like vindictive like that. I don't
Speaker 3: think she has an ego that's on the level of
Speaker 3: a sorry, I know that you're girls, but a Teresa
Speaker 3: and Nannini. I don't think. I don't think she operates
Speaker 3: like I don't think she operates like that, but it
Speaker 3: is like there's a hierarchy, Like anytime you even go
Speaker 3: into just a workplace, if there's someone that's been in
Speaker 3: that workplace for a you know, a lot longer than you,
Speaker 3: there is a kind of like respect that you show them.
Speaker 3: So I think it's more like that.
Speaker 2: So, as you were watching the scene between Dear and Erica.
Speaker 1: Maybe I read too much into it.
Speaker 2: I felt like or read's intention in this episode from
Speaker 2: every scene, starting with her telling Erica Jane about her
Speaker 2: separation first and said.
Speaker 1: Don't tell anybody. I felt like Derey was giving the
Speaker 1: big middle finger.
Speaker 2: To Kyle this entire episode, from the revelation of her
Speaker 2: separation to PK that I want to really really get
Speaker 2: back to, but also going to Kathy Hilton's.
Speaker 1: House, like.
Speaker 2: Dorrit, what I'm telling you, something happened to Drey. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's the alleged accusation. I was told
Speaker 2: that she was on the chopping block allegedly allegedly, and
Speaker 2: that she was scrambling to say of her job, allegedly allegedly,
Speaker 2: and based on her performance this first episode, I believe
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, ah, but I'm also like, yes, I think
Speaker 3: that's true. But I also am trying to wonder how
Speaker 3: like I don't think that it's all just trying to
Speaker 3: save her job, Like I think that it like comes
Speaker 3: from a real place. I think it's sort of like
Speaker 3: I don't think it's like, girl, we need you to
Speaker 3: go after Kyle to save your job. I think it's like,
Speaker 3: we know that you're having these issues and these feelings
Speaker 3: and that you're having issues with PK, et cetera. So
Speaker 3: you better bring what's really going on to the cameras
Speaker 3: to save your job. It's not like let's fabricate something.
Speaker 3: I also think that right, Yeah, when she went to
Speaker 3: Kathy Hilton's house, that was shocking. That was like that
Speaker 3: was war because one of the things that made her
Speaker 3: and Kyle fall out was when they're at Bravocon and
Speaker 3: Derey kind of jokingly had to rank who she's closest
Speaker 3: to out of the Richard sisters, and she like jokingly
Speaker 3: was like, well, Kathy's first and Kyle's last. Was like
Speaker 3: Kyle had just spiled a drink on her, and she
Speaker 3: thought she was joking around. Kyle took it personally and
Speaker 3: then they also had another moment at the previous reunion
Speaker 3: where Kyle felt like Dreite wasn't backing her up enough
Speaker 3: in her issues with Kathy. So the Kathy thing is
Speaker 3: like such a sensitive subject for Kyle and for Dereit
Speaker 3: for me episode to just like walk into Kathy's house
Speaker 3: and be like, Kathy's really been there for me during
Speaker 3: my separation was I couldn't believe that my jaw was.
Speaker 2: On the floor, honey, my job was on the floor,
Speaker 2: and my mouth was on the floor, and I needed
Speaker 2: the ivy drip that Kathy had administered, and she's getting
Speaker 2: glammed on and sipping an espresso.
Speaker 1: Like it was.
Speaker 2: It was so fascinating to watch, and for me, it
Speaker 2: was just sort of like, dreat, You're not dumb, you
Speaker 2: know exactly what you're doing, but I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: What I don't understand is what did Kyle ever do
Speaker 2: to dere And that's the part that I'm having a
Speaker 2: hard time trying to understand. I am on Kyle's side
Speaker 2: in the sense of when Durrey revealed her personal text
Speaker 2: messages between her and Kyle to Erica at the reunion,
Speaker 2: I listen, if you're my real friend.
Speaker 1: I should never see that. That should never happen.
Speaker 2: And I'm on Kyle's side in terms of when Kyle
Speaker 2: says she saw that as it was airing and that.
Speaker 1: Her mouth dropped too. I see why Kyle.
Speaker 2: Is a messing with Deriy. I'm still not understanding what
Speaker 2: did Kyle do to well.
Speaker 3: I guess Durit feels manipulated, like she said she felt
Speaker 3: like that was kind of calculated with the text message.
Speaker 3: I'm not on either one of this side. I actually
Speaker 3: think that I can completely see where both of them
Speaker 3: are coming from, and I do think Kyle was probably
Speaker 3: trying to manipulate to read a little bit with that text.
Speaker 3: But it's also like I do think that Durit was
Speaker 3: turning up for the cameras because they're both on a
Speaker 3: show and you can't ignore that element. So I think
Speaker 3: there's all the messiness of just like the mechanics of
Speaker 3: like being on a television show together, and then there's
Speaker 3: also the issues with their friendship, and like, I don't
Speaker 3: think either one of them is right or wrong. I
Speaker 3: really think it was like when Erica just said that
Speaker 3: it's just these little things coming from each one of
Speaker 3: you and it's been building up, building up, and now
Speaker 3: it's exploded.
Speaker 2: We have to get into this conversation because if there
Speaker 2: was a drinking game, no pun intended. Of the many
Speaker 2: times the Reed told everybody who had ears that p
Speaker 2: K is a full blown alcoholic, I'm like, dread. I
Speaker 2: listen not to get all like serious and stuff, because
Speaker 2: we have fun this podcast, but when someone is struggling
Speaker 2: with alcoholic it's kind of.
Speaker 1: Not your story to tell DEI.
Speaker 2: You know, because when we saw Mauricio, by the fucking way,
Speaker 2: Mauricio never looked better and he's always been hot. Marie Kyle,
Speaker 2: I love you down, Mauricio, I had to like cross
Speaker 2: my legs and have a pear cloth. Mauricio is so
Speaker 2: fucking hot, looks so good. I just couldn't take it.
Speaker 2: But I digress. P K never sat out of his
Speaker 2: own mouth unless I missed it, that he was a
Speaker 2: full blown alcoholic. He just said I got sober, and
Speaker 2: when I got sober, I realized that we were in
Speaker 2: a toxic marriage and that we need a break. So
Speaker 2: to hear her, not only did she say it to Erica,
Speaker 2: which is fine because Erica has been around for so
Speaker 2: many years. You just met Boz two seconds ago as
Speaker 2: you gave the valet person your keys and you're telling
Speaker 2: her that your your strange husband is.
Speaker 1: A full blown alcoholic.
Speaker 3: It felt like a planned character assassination, kind of in
Speaker 3: the same way that me or On Potonacau is going
Speaker 3: around telling everyone that Gordon is having a manic episode,
Speaker 3: when it's like, is he having a manic episode? Or
Speaker 3: is he just like calling you on your shit? Like
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's very weird, and this feels a
Speaker 3: little bit like that too, and it's like I don't
Speaker 3: know how to take dreat at this point, Like I
Speaker 3: need to watch the rest of the season because again,
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure out how much of this
Speaker 3: is like you're doing this for the show, and then
Speaker 3: how much of it really is like you've just been
Speaker 3: building resentment for a really long time, like maybe she
Speaker 3: has been biting her tongue and maybe she really is
Speaker 3: really fucking angry about the break in. Obviously, some people
Speaker 3: have made the allegation that it was like a planned thing,
Speaker 3: and then that, you know, the peak maybe allegedly, Like
Speaker 3: we don't know that for sure. I don't honestly don't
Speaker 3: even have an opinion on that either way, like people
Speaker 3: say it, I have no idea that could be true
Speaker 3: or not. But some people think that like maybe she
Speaker 3: found out that he had some involvement in that and
Speaker 3: then and even so say he didn't have involvement, but
Speaker 3: like he didn't really support her emotionally, which is a
Speaker 3: big thing, Like that's your husband, Like that's meant to
Speaker 3: be your rock and the person that you go to.
Speaker 3: And he seemed to be getting like pretty exhausted by
Speaker 3: her PTSD. And maybe it's just like all this stuff
Speaker 3: is just like simmering, and now this season and with
Speaker 3: her job on the line, it's like this like perfect
Speaker 3: storm of like i'mcoming for you. But then I still
Speaker 3: think like, or is this just like calculated, like you're
Speaker 3: trying to paint him in a certain life.
Speaker 2: I love thee I'm here for the OG personality coming
Speaker 2: back to me, it is calculating, I think my opinion.
Speaker 2: I think because allegedly Dury's job was on the line,
Speaker 2: she obviously, like anybody else on that shell, she needs
Speaker 2: the gig, she needs the money, she needs the income,
Speaker 2: and I think Derey was faced with this pressure of
Speaker 2: what a single woman's life looks like for her. Derey
Speaker 2: absolutely loves the Beverly Hills lifestyle, although she lives allegulated
Speaker 2: different I'm not going to call out her address, but
Speaker 2: she loves further than Beverly Hills. But Deree loves everything
Speaker 2: about the nine to two one zero. You know, she
Speaker 2: loves a party, she loves a glam, she loves she
Speaker 2: loves everything about that lifestyle. So in order to keep
Speaker 2: up with the Hiltons, she has to keep this gig.
Speaker 2: And she's is she been calculating, yes to me. But
Speaker 2: she's also very smart. She's kissing the ring of Kathy,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, which is not a bad
Speaker 2: ring to kiss. Kathy's well connected. If you need to
Speaker 2: meet a new rich guy, Kathy has somebody on speed
Speaker 2: dial for you.
Speaker 1: Kyle doesn't.
Speaker 2: Kyle is allegedly seeing the person whose name we can't
Speaker 2: say anymore, apparently, which we'll get to that.
Speaker 1: In a second. But Derey is very calculating.
Speaker 2: I think to your point, I think Derey stopped loving
Speaker 2: PK the way we saw her love him when boy
Speaker 2: George was their roommate. I think something happened financially in
Speaker 2: their marriage. And I think because something happened financially in
Speaker 2: their marriage.
Speaker 1: Allegedly, I do believe allegedly.
Speaker 2: That PK started possibly to drink more because he's not
Speaker 2: married to a woman.
Speaker 1: Let's be real.
Speaker 2: PK knows that Derey is not with him for his looks.
Speaker 2: So you have this lifestyle that you have to upkeep.
Speaker 2: Your wife has a certain lifestyle that she's accustomed to.
Speaker 2: You have two kids. You have to find ways to
Speaker 2: do it. You're not making money with these movies you're
Speaker 2: investing in. Boy George is not selling out any stadium
Speaker 2: tours like Kenny g.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? So when when?
Speaker 3: When?
Speaker 1: When a when a rich man.
Speaker 2: Starts to lose his value. Some of them, I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not diagnosing PK, but some of them fall into
Speaker 2: other ways of handling their depression.
Speaker 1: That could be a way, so not a way.
Speaker 2: That could be one of the reasons why he started
Speaker 2: drinking more. And I think Dery probably saw a lot
Speaker 2: of maybe nasty things he said to her while he
Speaker 2: was under the influence. I think Deiy probably got titled
Speaker 2: covering for him. The fact that he wasn't home doing
Speaker 2: this invasion now speaks a little bit of high volumes
Speaker 2: in terms of like, what's happening? And then to add
Speaker 2: and saw to injury Jock. He told her to get
Speaker 2: over it. And so I think to your point, it
Speaker 2: was a lot of things piled up, and I think
Speaker 2: was like, I have to get out of it. But
Speaker 2: do I think she's using this to embarrass him, to
Speaker 2: reveal to when she revealed to bos he was a
Speaker 2: full blown alcoholic, I said, this is nasty work.
Speaker 3: She's very resentful, I think, and it's coming out now,
Speaker 3: and I will say, you know the scene of her
Speaker 3: that is now iconic, where she's lighting up a cigarette
Speaker 3: in the car and which is being meme to death
Speaker 3: and is everything I heard from one of the other
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills housewives. She said to me at one point,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say which housewife it was, but
Speaker 3: she said, you know these women like they really switch
Speaker 3: it up on camera, like Deurite will do a scene
Speaker 3: and then the camera goes down, she walks off and
Speaker 3: lights up a cigarette and I remember thinking, oh my god,
Speaker 3: and now I saw her do it and she's doing
Speaker 3: it on camera and I'm like, okay, like this is
Speaker 3: the real dery. Like she's been she's been chugging them
Speaker 3: ciggies down for a while.
Speaker 1: Ah that, well, you know, I believe that.
Speaker 2: I believe that there's a couple of housewives who do
Speaker 2: smoke off camera. The only one who really did it first,
Speaker 2: who's a legend that just started smoking on camera, is
Speaker 2: Kim Zoziak. And that's why she will always be the
Speaker 2: icon that she is. But that smoking scene was so
Speaker 2: delicious because listeners, if you have watched the recent season one,
Speaker 2: she has never worn anything that you can't find an
Speaker 2: even Marcus to Jock's points, She's always been very aware
Speaker 2: of her image and her presence, and you know, whatever
Speaker 2: the case may be, I.
Speaker 1: Got chills watching her smoke.
Speaker 2: And of course a lot of people like Carlos shut
Speaker 2: the fuck up like she smoked a cigarette, big deal. No,
Speaker 2: you guys don't understand. Dread is a product of her environment.
Speaker 2: And what I saw in the first episode was re
Speaker 2: shedding this image that she showed us in terms of
Speaker 2: this prim and proper person who would tease a woman
Speaker 2: for not wearing panties, and now she's wearing a bomber
Speaker 2: jacket that was giving me old navy Mitzara with denim
Speaker 2: jeans um and messy hair.
Speaker 1: When Kathy's like your hairlet's cute. Oh.
Speaker 2: I woke up last night and I mean this morning,
Speaker 2: never watched it. I just brushed it. That's not the
Speaker 2: Deree I'm used to, but I love it. It's refreshing to
Speaker 2: see her. Smoke was iconic because she's showing us something
Speaker 2: different and guys, I am sorry, but I'm not like.
Speaker 2: I am so obsessed with dret this season that if
Speaker 2: she's not in every episode giving me this, I don't
Speaker 2: want to watch it.
Speaker 1: But I'm in love with her now.
Speaker 3: I think she was starting to give us this last
Speaker 3: season because I feel like I noticed the change in
Speaker 3: the wardrobe last season that it was just getting less
Speaker 3: logoy because I always hated her fashion, like I found
Speaker 3: it so contrived and ugly and it was just like
Speaker 3: the clothes would wear her. And I hated when people
Speaker 3: were like, durit has the best style. I'm like, no sex,
Speaker 3: she has, like now, just the worst style. And I
Speaker 3: felt like last season it was starting to get more
Speaker 3: toned down and I noticed it and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: she's dressing better. And then when she was still going
Speaker 3: up against Garcel, knowing she was gonna she ended up
Speaker 3: getting called a Karen and because we know what happens
Speaker 3: when you go against Garcel, knowing that was what was
Speaker 3: going to get lobbed at her, and she still went there.
Speaker 3: And then she went to the reunion with the text
Speaker 3: message and with Kyle, and I'm like, I felt like
Speaker 3: it was seeing the beginning of like this Derey coming out.
Speaker 3: Now that it's this season, it's like all bets are off.
Speaker 1: No, that's actually a good point.
Speaker 2: So it was it was building up since last season
Speaker 2: with the deriy I love you, but that was an
Speaker 2: ugly rid a little.
Speaker 1: Bit writing her dress you worked at the reunion last year.
Speaker 1: It was it was awful. I hated that. Speaking of Garcel.
Speaker 2: There has been a shift on social media that I
Speaker 2: am shocked and I thought.
Speaker 1: I would never see the day.
Speaker 2: And Jock, I want to get your opinion on this,
Speaker 2: because I'm pretty sure you've seen it too. A lot
Speaker 2: of people are team Dereat after this first episode, and
Speaker 2: I'm shocked, shockingly, a lot of people are not feeling Garsel.
Speaker 2: They feel like Garsel is poking at de Read. They
Speaker 2: feel like Garsel, you know, making the comments that she
Speaker 2: was making about you know, Derey being long winded and
Speaker 2: you know the outfit she was wearing. There was a
Speaker 2: poll that and again with the grain of salt, we
Speaker 2: know that social media makes up two percent of the world,
Speaker 2: but it's just hear me out that same two percent
Speaker 2: though it was almost like ninety eight percent Garseel and
Speaker 2: two percent Derea. It's it's it's a lot of the
Speaker 2: fans our team Dery after this episode and they feel
Speaker 2: like Garsell well doesn't have a storyline, and that her
Speaker 2: storyline is always picking at Derid and there a lot
Speaker 2: of them have said, we have now woken up and
Speaker 2: we have seen that we were propped on the wrong
Speaker 2: side of history.
Speaker 1: What do you have to say to that girl?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I've been a Garcel truther since the beginning,
Speaker 3: so I've been waiting for people to catch up. Let's
Speaker 3: go over the gar Cell of it all. So first
Speaker 3: of all, they open with her solo scene. I saw
Speaker 3: her on a laptop, and I'm like again because I
Speaker 3: feel like every fucking season Garsell's whole storyline is like
Speaker 3: I'm in the kitchen on a laptop, like on a
Speaker 3: bumble profile, or like doing a zoom for work, Like
Speaker 3: she gives us nothing. Her and Sutton both of them
Speaker 3: together are actually so mean. They both make so many mean,
Speaker 3: bitchy comments that actually feel like they totally feel like
Speaker 3: mean girl comments because there's a certain power imbalance because
Speaker 3: they are the fan faves and they can get away
Speaker 3: with everything in the same way that Lisa van der
Speaker 3: Pump used to be able to do it, whereas they
Speaker 3: can constantly make those jabs and say nasty things in
Speaker 3: the confessional, and like, you know, when Teddy, I know
Speaker 3: people hate Teddy and she's annoying or whatever, but like
Speaker 3: that's just one example, Like Teddy did nothing to garcel
Speaker 3: and ted and Garcelle was just being mean to her
Speaker 3: and everyone like cheered her on, like garcell could do
Speaker 3: whatever she wanted. And they're doing it again this episode
Speaker 3: and jabbing it. You know, Dereat's long. It's just showing
Speaker 3: their true character. They are the two mean girls, and
Speaker 3: they are the ones that play to the audience and
Speaker 3: they are the ones that get away with murder. And
Speaker 3: garcel especially never has a storyline other than you know
Speaker 3: that her kids seem to think she wasn't the best mom,
Speaker 3: So you know, like I hope people are starting to
Speaker 3: wake up now about garcel and seeing the true colors there.
Speaker 3: And yeah, they they are mean girls. And if like
Speaker 3: Erica or Lisa, Rinna or whatever, whenever they would make
Speaker 3: a little like bitchy comment, like social media would just
Speaker 3: flip out, Oh my god, they're so nasty. They need
Speaker 3: to be fired. They're ruining the show. They're so toxic.
Speaker 3: But it's like Sutton and Garsel can get away with
Speaker 3: being like as horrible as they want, and people like, yes,
Speaker 3: like call them out. It's like at some point it's unnecessary.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I hope that the social media continues like
Speaker 3: this throughout the season. And also, I mean, I know
Speaker 3: we're going to get to this, but Deret's instant chemistry
Speaker 3: with Bosoma.
Speaker 1: Go go listen, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 2: I first of all, love Oz. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: I And I'm gonna tell you why she's being authentically
Speaker 2: hrh and you can tell.
Speaker 1: And I mean, to come out of the car.
Speaker 2: She's beautiful, she's gorgeous, to offer the dress everything I mean,
Speaker 2: but she's so refreshingly funny, and I appreciated the fact
Speaker 2: that Deiy and her bonded.
Speaker 1: I listen.
Speaker 2: I don't think dere's a racist at all, And I've
Speaker 2: said that I don't think.
Speaker 1: That at all.
Speaker 2: Again, it was very interesting to see that Dree bonded
Speaker 2: with the new.
Speaker 1: Black Girl and how Boz really likes Dery.
Speaker 2: And not to spoil any things that I haven't seen
Speaker 2: the rest of the season, but I have seen the
Speaker 2: after show for the first episode on BravoTV dot com.
Speaker 2: Boz and Dei's chemistry is real, and I don't think
Speaker 2: it's fake. I think they both enjoy each other because
Speaker 2: the difference between their friendship and the other women on
Speaker 2: the show. They both get each other's thing. Like, they're
Speaker 2: both fashionable, and they're both shady, and it's fun shady,
Speaker 2: but it's not trying hard to be shady. It's very
Speaker 2: subtle and they sort of like bounce off each other.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting. But I love them together.
Speaker 3: Their chemistry is just so instant, and Bow's like she
Speaker 3: just felt like a star straight away, Like the second
Speaker 3: she stepped out and opened her mouth, You're like, I
Speaker 3: love you so likable straight away. I know Garsell's gonna
Speaker 3: be going crazy over this, because you know, Garcel loves
Speaker 3: to be able to go, well, you're a Karen and
Speaker 3: to be able to pull that whenever someone goes against her.
Speaker 3: We've seen it ever since the when Kyle called her
Speaker 3: out for the charity thing, which is like, you didn't
Speaker 3: pay for the charity. But then she's like, would you
Speaker 3: have said that? If you know? Would you have said
Speaker 3: that if I wasn't black? But it was like garsell
Speaker 3: came after Kyle that entire season one sided, like non stop.
Speaker 3: Like even if you guys, if you remember back on
Speaker 3: that first season when garcel even like jabbed at Kyle
Speaker 3: during her it was like a speech that she was giving,
Speaker 3: like a charity thing or like a philanthropy thing, and
Speaker 3: she like jabbed at Kyle in her speech for like
Speaker 3: no reason. So Garcelle's been getting away with a lot
Speaker 3: for a while. And I know that she would hate
Speaker 3: seeing de eat and Bow's get along like that. And
Speaker 3: I think Bo's is going to be instant fan favorite.
Speaker 3: I mean, she already is from the social media reaction
Speaker 3: I'm seeing, and I think she's gonna be very very
Speaker 3: popular on the show. And I am I'm excited. And
Speaker 3: you know, I know that Beverly Hills, they've been trying
Speaker 3: to bring more diversity in to the show and they've
Speaker 3: had trouble because they had Crystal who Crystal had a
Speaker 3: decent run, but like she just wasn't kind of opinionated
Speaker 3: enough and wasn't being enough herself. And then, you know,
Speaker 3: I really liked Anna Marie. I thought she was good,
Speaker 3: but it just kind of didn't work out for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: and they had to edit a lot of her stuff out.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that now they've kind of got it right.
Speaker 3: They've got someone that's fabulous and opinionated and that the
Speaker 3: viewers are going to get behind, and like it's just
Speaker 3: such a good cost. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Child.
Speaker 2: We are just getting started. This is reality with the
Speaker 2: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 2: I've heard of Oz before because, like she said on
Speaker 2: the show, she worked for Netflix and Uber and she's
Speaker 2: always been like this corporate boss. So when she was
Speaker 2: announced as the next housewife, I was like, oh, girl,
Speaker 2: this is I didn't see that coming because she was
Speaker 2: always like this professional powerhouse. To see how she is
Speaker 2: so effortless on camera and how she's so confident. She
Speaker 2: the thing with her that felt different, if I'm being
Speaker 2: honest to me, she felt naturally integrated with the cast
Speaker 2: in her first scene. It didn't seem like, oh, let's
Speaker 2: just get this new black girl on the show, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like she it felt very organic.
Speaker 2: She felt like she knew these women. The way she
Speaker 2: was able to be herself around them. It just felt
Speaker 2: very natural to me. And I agree with you in
Speaker 2: terms of like great casts, because yes, the show hasn't
Speaker 2: had that much diversity. Crystal Listen, Crystal is just not
Speaker 2: a great reality star. I think she's a great human being.
Speaker 2: You know, she's a great wife, a great mom, and
Speaker 2: a great woman. But she's not a star. So I'm
Speaker 2: happy that we have a star. Boz is a star.
Speaker 2: And the commentary that she made and the look she
Speaker 2: gave Kathy Hilton, who was taking out her extensions at
Speaker 2: a dinner, I knew that, like Bars is here to stay.
Speaker 3: And I liked that she wasn't afraid to kind of
Speaker 3: like shade Kathy Hilton because a lot of the other
Speaker 3: girls are like scared of Kathy and they don't want
Speaker 3: to do anything that could upset Kathy. And Boz just
Speaker 3: had like her own natural reaction to it, like this
Speaker 3: is a fucking weird girl, Like why taking out your
Speaker 3: extensions at the table. She didn't really care, and it
Speaker 3: just felt like it didn't feel thirsty, it felt real,
Speaker 3: it felt natural, And yeah, it doesn't feel like a
Speaker 3: diversity higher at all. It feels like you were just
Speaker 3: naturally in this group and you're a star, and this
Speaker 3: doesn't feel contrived. And the same with like Bronwin, the
Speaker 3: same energy with Bronwen coming into Salt Lake City where
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, this is just such a natural fit,
Speaker 3: Like this is just so obvious that like you should
Speaker 3: be with this group of women and I don't even
Speaker 3: Sometimes with a new housewife, you're like, oh, give them
Speaker 3: a few seasons to like settle in. And with her,
Speaker 3: it's like episode one, like you're in.
Speaker 2: It was instant. Yes, it was instant. It was instant.
Speaker 2: It was instant. Jennifer Tilly, what did you think about her?
Speaker 3: I was not impressed, ah.
Speaker 1: At all.
Speaker 3: And I'm a Jennifer Tilly fan. But like when Sutton
Speaker 3: opened the door and Jennifer Tilly was screaming, sat down,
Speaker 3: and like it felt like when Jamie Lee Curtis was
Speaker 3: on last year with the wind Chimes or whatever and
Speaker 3: she was kind of performing to the camera. It just
Speaker 3: had that actressy thing to it, and like her home
Speaker 3: was hideous and not in even a fun way. To me,
Speaker 3: it just was kind of like outdated and depressing. And no,
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't like Jennifer Tilly on there at all.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Look, they've hyped her up a lot in all of
Speaker 3: the pre press so she might get more fun and
Speaker 3: quirky and have those quirky moments, but I all ready
Speaker 3: feel like we have Sutton and Kathy Hilton for the quirkiness,
Speaker 3: so it's like, oh, we need another quirky old broad Like,
Speaker 3: I feel like we've got that covered. So I don't
Speaker 3: love it at all.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's the first episode, and first impressions are
Speaker 2: everything I will say. I was just like, okay, where's
Speaker 2: the ree?
Speaker 1: You know, I was no shade, I was.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, hey Jennifer, hey girl, where's three?
Speaker 2: Where's Erica? Like when Erica got off the car her
Speaker 2: amazing yellow outfit, that outfit was everything.
Speaker 3: I was dying girl.
Speaker 2: I was, I was, I was. I love eric O Jay,
Speaker 2: I was here for it. I was like, this is
Speaker 2: who I want to see. So again, she has been
Speaker 2: hyped up. I listen, there's lots of talks about diversity hires. Honey,
Speaker 2: let's talk about the hires of these Hollywood actresses who
Speaker 2: don't need to be on my reality TV screen unless
Speaker 2: you Liza Renna like so well see, but if Jennifer
Speaker 2: Tilly is not giving me Eileen Davidson or Lisa Reena,
Speaker 2: you know, an actress who brings there, an actress who
Speaker 2: isn't playing up to this character. My concern with Jennifer
Speaker 2: Tilly is are you playing up to this character?
Speaker 1: You are?
Speaker 2: I do think she's quirking real life, and I do
Speaker 2: think she's all those things. But to me, it was
Speaker 2: something about the way she greeted Sutton.
Speaker 3: But I was like, we both felt it as soon as.
Speaker 2: I'm like, is this a two B movie that I'm watching? Like,
Speaker 2: what is happening here?
Speaker 1: TV? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know, you know, wait, can I get your take
Speaker 3: on this? This is who I really want on Beverly Hills,
Speaker 3: and I know they I feel like they tested it out.
Speaker 3: I really want Cynthia Bailey on Beverly Hills, and I
Speaker 3: was very disappointed when they brought her back to Atlanta
Speaker 3: because I'm like, no, put her on Beverly Hills, because,
Speaker 3: like you know, Housewives of Atlanta, Cynthia was always like,
Speaker 3: you know, the nice one, the boring one, the voice
Speaker 3: of reason, whatever. But on that on that Ultimate Girl's
Speaker 3: Trip season one that had like Ramona and Kyle and
Speaker 3: stuff like.
Speaker 1: Cynthia the best one.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was my favorite one as well the unpopular
Speaker 3: opinion because most people like season two. I thought number
Speaker 3: one was definitely the best and Cynthia was like most
Speaker 3: of the drama on that and it was like, Cynthia
Speaker 3: actually does have a big personality and a strong personality,
Speaker 3: but it was like in Atlanta, you put her around
Speaker 3: people that are on a level of like a Ninie
Speaker 3: and a Ken You're in a Porsche, like you're just
Speaker 3: gonna shrink smaller. But I feel like in Beverly Hills,
Speaker 3: like the big parts of Cynthia's personality could really come
Speaker 3: out and she's absolutely beautiful and she's naturally integrated into
Speaker 3: that group, and I really really want her on Beverly
Speaker 3: Hills more like I feel like she should be an
Speaker 3: official friend of and then maybe even a housewife.
Speaker 1: I could not agree with you more.
Speaker 2: And then somebody who has worked with Cynthia Bailey from
Speaker 2: season three to nine when I left the show, So
Speaker 2: that's six strong years of me working with her. And
Speaker 2: one thing that people don't know about Cynthia. Yes, we
Speaker 2: know that she's an international model and all those things,
Speaker 2: but Cynthia is somebody who really enjoys the luxury, the
Speaker 2: luxury world of the Hamptons and Beverly Hills, right Like
Speaker 2: that's her world. If you ever met her friends, then
Speaker 2: I have a chance of meeting her bridesmaids where she
Speaker 2: got married to Peter's season three, her first season.
Speaker 1: And these are like.
Speaker 2: Rebbitable women who are like rubbing elbows with like.
Speaker 1: Donna Carron, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Belly Hills is way more Cynthia's world than Atlanta. And
Speaker 2: I'm saying that somebody who knows her personally, Syntha hangs
Speaker 2: out with Luyne and the Hamptons, like almost every year
Speaker 2: Cynthia hangs out with Jill Zarreon at charity events. None
Speaker 2: of my Atlanta girls are hanging out with Joe's Aaron
Speaker 2: or lou Anne or Sutton. That is Cynthia's world. And
Speaker 2: Cynthia has a place in Sherman Oaks that her daughter lives,
Speaker 2: and so Cynthia has every reason to be in California,
Speaker 2: and I could not agree with you more. I think Cynthia,
Speaker 2: who yes, has connections in Atlanta, But I've saw that
Speaker 2: story play already, so I don't want to see that again.
Speaker 2: As a friend, Row, I want to see Cynthia Bailly
Speaker 2: look at cog On and say, okay, girl, no shade.
Speaker 2: We can't bring up Morgan's name. When you brought her
Speaker 2: name up last year, y'all got tattoos together. You went
Speaker 2: to her event, y'all were and Garsell did a great
Speaker 2: job at pushing it right. And I love ourselves for that.
Speaker 2: Give God so credit for that.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Jock Garsel. Do you want to Jock
Speaker 1: over in this instance?
Speaker 2: But garcilas did a great job pushing get But let
Speaker 2: me tell you something about Cynthia Bailey, who has who
Speaker 2: has been up against Phaedria Parks, Ninnie Leek's, Portia Williams.
Speaker 1: Synthia knows how to get the story.
Speaker 2: These girls are our Barbie's dream house compared to the
Speaker 2: women that Synthay had to deal with in Atlanta. I
Speaker 2: promise y'all one thing for sure, Cynthia is unassuming.
Speaker 1: If Cynthy would.
Speaker 2: Have asked Kyle questions about Morgan, I promise you Kyle
Speaker 2: would have revealed way more than she gave Garsel because
Speaker 2: Kyle knows what Garsell you're being nosy. And although Cynthia
Speaker 2: may be nosy because she is, she's unassuming and she
Speaker 2: does have a good heart, So I'm with you. I
Speaker 2: want Cynthia Bailey as a friend of on Beillley Hills.
Speaker 3: Garseel also is in a safe space because she will
Speaker 3: weaponize I mean Lisa Vanna Pump's style. I find her
Speaker 3: quite similar to Lisa Vandam in a lot of ways,
Speaker 3: Like she will take that personal information and use it
Speaker 3: against you. So even when Kyle, you know, Kyle went, look,
Speaker 3: I'm just I feel safe with you guys. I'm going
Speaker 3: to like tell you this. That was just Kyle trying
Speaker 3: to get ahead of the story or whatever, like she
Speaker 3: didn't really want to confide about But it's like Cynthia's
Speaker 3: actually a good person, so you could tell her that
Speaker 3: and know that she's not going to do something nasty
Speaker 3: with it. And also one thing about Garcel, like Garcel
Speaker 3: is not funny at all, Like she's really not even
Speaker 3: very charismatic.
Speaker 2: She's just I think she has funny No, no, no,
Speaker 2: I think Arca has funny interview bites.
Speaker 3: I don't like, and she I feel like she's always
Speaker 3: laughing at her own jokes, not at all. But I
Speaker 3: think Cynthia Bailey is fucking hilarious. I think Cynthia is
Speaker 3: so underrated, like in how funny she is and just
Speaker 3: her little reactions and her lines and stuff. And I
Speaker 3: think Cynthia's reactions in her confessionals to like Morgan and
Speaker 3: Kyle would just be like gold. Like I don't actually
Speaker 3: understand why the producers haven't done it yet. It felt
Speaker 3: like they tested Cynthia out a season or two ago.
Speaker 3: But I think it was like a really dramatic dinner
Speaker 3: party where stuff was happening with Sutton or some one
Speaker 3: of the other girls.
Speaker 1: No, it's when, Honey, she was at the dinner party.
Speaker 2: When Sutton an Erica and asked Kai about her marriage.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah that one.
Speaker 1: Yes. So to your point, she wasn't, you know, like
Speaker 1: a lot was going on that night.
Speaker 3: Yes, So she didn't get a chance to like get
Speaker 3: in there and like shine. So the producers might have
Speaker 3: been like, oh, she kind of flopped there, But it's
Speaker 3: like that's not really fair, like invite her to a
Speaker 3: few events and like getting sidetracked, but I'm curious to
Speaker 3: see her on Oh my god, wait, I've got a question.
Speaker 3: I need to ask you from production standpoint, because this
Speaker 3: is crazy to me and you're mister super producer. So
Speaker 3: you would have heard that with the new season of Atlanta,
Speaker 3: they brought Phadri in. She only filmed for two weeks
Speaker 3: out of the whole season and they made her full time.
Speaker 3: How the fuck are they pulling that off? Like do
Speaker 3: you think then they showed another month of like pickup
Speaker 3: scenes and it's just gonna be like a Frankenstein editing joke.
Speaker 3: Like that was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: You know what's so funny about that? Everything you said
Speaker 2: is true. Faedra came in the last two weeks of
Speaker 2: Feel Me. She was able to make the this is
Speaker 2: all online, so I'm not like spilling like things I'm
Speaker 2: not supposed to. Fedra left Meryton Medicine because something happened
Speaker 2: to her on that show that we'll see this season
Speaker 2: where she walked away from the show. Okay, and this
Speaker 2: is listen, this is this is the truth. Faedra Parks
Speaker 2: walked away from Maryton Medicine and within a week and
Speaker 2: a half was on the Girls international trip on the
Speaker 2: Land of Housewives and signed her contract within less than
Speaker 2: two weeks.
Speaker 1: Okay, they literally got.
Speaker 2: Back from the international trip and maybe had like a
Speaker 2: week or two left of filming. Phaser probably will be
Speaker 2: in four episodes, but again it goes to show you
Speaker 2: the power of that woman, right, like the fact, I
Speaker 2: don't know anybody in the history of reality television can
Speaker 2: quit one show, walk away from it what they're gonna
Speaker 2: call it, and under two weeks go back to a
Speaker 2: show that she was not on for seven years with
Speaker 2: two weeks left of filming and not and to John's point,
Speaker 2: not just as a friend, but as an official housewife.
Speaker 2: We will see Faser Parks holding a peach in the
Speaker 2: opening credits episode fourteen.
Speaker 3: How can they do that? Like they cannot seriously go
Speaker 3: through like like three quarters of a season without Like
Speaker 3: are they just going to be like sprinkling her in
Speaker 3: with like pick up the scenes and stuff.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2: But because you have to and listen, I'm saying things
Speaker 2: that I don't know for a fact, it does work
Speaker 2: with me. Here, Maritime Medicine airs this this Sunday and
Speaker 2: Atlanta's not airing until twenty twenty five, and we don't
Speaker 2: know them up yet.
Speaker 1: You have to see like the story why she's not
Speaker 1: on that show anymore.
Speaker 2: So the beauty of that jock is you get to
Speaker 2: see what happened on her, what happened to her on
Speaker 2: Maritime Medicine in terms of why she left, so that
Speaker 2: when you see her in Atlanta, you're not just like, well,
Speaker 2: that's no, that doesn't make any sense because you were
Speaker 2: on a you were you were on The Girl's Trip
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, a Mariti Medicine. So the beauty of it
Speaker 2: is like this anticipation that when she's back, she's back,
Speaker 2: so no, there'll be no pickup.
Speaker 1: Scenes to like show her earlier.
Speaker 2: She literally makes her debut on The Girl's Trip, which
Speaker 2: is which is which is iconic in itself.
Speaker 3: It's just iconic over the making her full time.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: I feel like that season, I don't know, like I
Speaker 3: feel like, I know you have to be careful, you
Speaker 3: don't want to like you have to be careful how
Speaker 3: you comment on it because you worked on it for
Speaker 3: so long. But like, that season's gonna be such a
Speaker 3: mess because they shot all that stuff with Kenya and
Speaker 3: then I think they then they had to cut Kenya out,
Speaker 3: and then I think they had to like start again,
Speaker 3: and then they feature moilming for two weeks that she's
Speaker 3: full time, Like what the hell?
Speaker 1: I know? And I know, and that's the reason why
Speaker 1: it's going to listen.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be the most watched season to me because
Speaker 2: of everything that happened off season that were so curious about.
Speaker 2: So as we finished off Billy Hills, though, how do
Speaker 2: you feel about.
Speaker 1: Kyle now wanting to bring up Morgan?
Speaker 2: I did find it strange because they filmed last season.
Speaker 2: The only rational excuse for me is Morgan probably had
Speaker 2: no idea how big this show was, and maybe the attention.
Speaker 1: Wasn't something she wanted to that degree.
Speaker 3: Here's what I think happened. So I think that Morgan
Speaker 3: and Kyle had a really I think they had this
Speaker 3: like instant friendship. I think they were bonding through Kyle's
Speaker 3: you know, divorce and all of this stuff, and then
Speaker 3: Kyle started getting you know, kind of like having a
Speaker 3: midlife crisis, not saying that in a shady way, but
Speaker 3: just your midlife change or whatever and getting fit all
Speaker 3: of this stuff, and then I think it was like
Speaker 3: let's play into this and like have some fun with it.
Speaker 3: And I think Kyle didn't want to feel like my
Speaker 3: husband went and like left me for a younger woman
Speaker 3: or whatever, like she really wanted to still be like
Speaker 3: I'm hot, like I've got the younger woman. But I
Speaker 3: but then I think she actually fell for Morgan along
Speaker 3: the way. I don't know if they consummated their relationship.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was just like an emotional thing,
Speaker 3: like something was happening along the way where it really
Speaker 3: became more than friends. And then I do think that
Speaker 3: Morgan kind of freaked out about Okay, this like pressed
Speaker 3: scrutiny is so much like, yes, I wanted to use
Speaker 3: this to help launch my career, but at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, like I'm an artist, I'm missing a
Speaker 3: songwriter first and foremost, I'm not a reality TV star.
Speaker 3: I'm not like a page six staple. I don't want
Speaker 3: to have every time I mentioned as just you know,
Speaker 3: me dating you, maybe Morgan being a lot younger, Like
Speaker 3: here's the thing, Okay, here's the thing about LGBT. We
Speaker 3: can say this they really and at the lesbians and
Speaker 3: the gays. They like to turn a straight person and
Speaker 3: then I think sometimes it's like they like to do it,
Speaker 3: and then the it's like, well, I've checked, I've done
Speaker 3: it now and I'm moving on. And I think maybe
Speaker 3: Morgan was a bit like okay, like I turned you
Speaker 3: and we had our emotional affair and stuff, but at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you're like twenty years older
Speaker 3: than me, and you're divorced with all these kids, and
Speaker 3: I've got a music career and I don't want to
Speaker 3: be a reality star, and I think she put a
Speaker 3: stop to it. And now I think that's why Kyle's
Speaker 3: awkwardly like, well now I can't talk about her and
Speaker 3: I can't share it. And I think people think that
Speaker 3: Kyle just was completely faking this and like milking it
Speaker 3: for attention, which I don't think it was. Like that
Speaker 3: was like one element, but there's a lot more. There's
Speaker 3: a lot more to it than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I listen.
Speaker 2: My opinion is I definitely think her, Kyle and Morgan
Speaker 2: had a relationship, whether they defined it as girlfriend girlfriend,
Speaker 2: based on this scene that I watched, all the scenes
Speaker 2: that I watched of them last season, they have chemistry.
Speaker 3: Kile was in love with her, Kyle was in love
Speaker 3: with her.
Speaker 1: I could see it.
Speaker 3: I felt like I could see it because I'm like
Speaker 3: when I'm like in love with someone and like in
Speaker 3: the moment with them and you're like so excited and
Speaker 3: you're like feeling it, like and I saw that on Kyle,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, she's like in love with Morgan Wade.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like Morgan is in love with her?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Oh no, yeah, I think it
Speaker 3: was more from Kyle that makes me say. I think
Speaker 3: I think Morgan was curious and a lot of a
Speaker 3: lot of lesbians do like to turn a straight woman,
Speaker 3: and it's actually very common. Like one of my really
Speaker 3: close friends is a lesbian and like and she's you know,
Speaker 3: like a gold star lesbian and she actually gets in
Speaker 3: like a few relationships with straight women that like come
Speaker 3: out of a marriage and then want to have a
Speaker 3: fling with another woman. Like it's a common thing. So
Speaker 3: I think Morgan was curious and probably had a lot
Speaker 3: of affection for her and stuff. But I think Kyle
Speaker 3: ended up getting stronger feelings in the end.
Speaker 2: And that's probably why when Kyle was asked those questions,
Speaker 2: you saw like the nervousness and and you know, like
Speaker 2: her shoulders were tense, she looked afraid, you know, like
Speaker 2: it was it was like it was very interesting, and
Speaker 2: it was like, what was happening here?
Speaker 1: And I think it is what you said?
Speaker 2: I think I think at that time of filming, I
Speaker 2: think Morgan probably said this is getting a little bit
Speaker 2: too much, and don't talk about me on the show
Speaker 2: and let's just figure things out. And I think Kyle,
Speaker 2: to her credit, she did not want to apply a
Speaker 2: title to their relationship at that at that time. I
Speaker 2: have heard that they're allegedly still seeing each other. I
Speaker 2: have heard that's based on people at parties and flights.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting. Now, Well I can see the appeal
Speaker 3: as well, because like, look, Kyle was in this marriage
Speaker 3: for a really long time and at some well we
Speaker 3: remember what Alison Dubois said, he'll never emotionally fulfill you.
Speaker 3: And you know men can be like that. It's a
Speaker 3: bit like there's a lot of emotionally unavailable men out there,
Speaker 3: and you know, women, women are more emotional and probably
Speaker 3: where Kyle was in her life, she probably got a
Speaker 3: lot of this like attention and emotional intimacy that she
Speaker 3: was craving. And then also like I could see Morgan
Speaker 3: taking on a very masculine role. And I'm not talking
Speaker 3: about in terms of being you know, top and bottom
Speaker 3: in the bedroom. I'm talking about holding the door open,
Speaker 3: like being chivalrous, like making me feel like a princess
Speaker 3: and making me feel like a woman and making me
Speaker 3: feel very safe and taking care of like physically and emotionally.
Speaker 3: And I could see where Kyle was in her life
Speaker 3: really falling into that.
Speaker 1: I do two, I do too, I do two.
Speaker 2: I cannot agree with you more about that and listen,
Speaker 2: and it showed, it showed with her uncomfortableness talking about it. Now,
Speaker 2: let's get into the moment of the episode. And I
Speaker 2: can't wait until episode two of this season.
Speaker 1: Derey is ready.
Speaker 2: When when the girls were talking it the power of.
Speaker 1: Dreed when she got around.
Speaker 2: The table and hey, Kyle, like, hi, as if you
Speaker 2: two haven't spoken in months, as if you did not
Speaker 2: just see her fucking sister. Uh, but they have this
Speaker 2: strange relationship. DEI was like, let's go. Drey sat down
Speaker 2: and this is the this is my favorite part, the.
Speaker 1: Reason why Kyle kept saying, like, why are you acting
Speaker 1: like this?
Speaker 2: You're not being yourself because Kyle's like, why are you
Speaker 2: coming for me? And Dere's like, welcome back to the
Speaker 2: old derry bitch. I am no longer playing second fiddle
Speaker 2: to you. I am not your background singer. Okay, I
Speaker 2: am not Christina Aguilera and you're Britney Spears. I am
Speaker 2: coming for my spot again, and it will be at
Speaker 2: the expense.
Speaker 1: Of you, bitch. Duriit was ready, and to.
Speaker 2: Me, there was this fear on Kyle's face in terms
Speaker 2: of how much is DeWitt going to reveal because this
Speaker 2: the gag Jock deurit really knows about what's happened with
Speaker 2: Morgan and Kyle.
Speaker 1: And Mauricio.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, if she reveals that on the show,
Speaker 3: that would be that would be fucking wild. But I
Speaker 3: did love that. I love that moment of Kyle being
Speaker 3: like who are you because it was like a real
Speaker 3: full bully break of like what are you doing? Like
Speaker 3: you're turning up for the cameras, like who are you?
Speaker 3: Like that was that was kind of crazy, like what
Speaker 3: do you do?
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 2: It was something like it was so funny because cause listen,
Speaker 2: let's let's let's have a real conversation.
Speaker 1: Kyle is looking at derate, like.
Speaker 2: You were on the chopping block, you got your job back,
Speaker 2: and now now you're gonna come for me, and and
Speaker 2: like who are you God, Kyle was pretty much telling Derey,
Speaker 2: you look desperate. Yes, you look desperate to have a moment,
Speaker 2: and you're trying to have a moment to me, And
Speaker 2: to Jock's point, that was Kyle's subtle way of telling Derey,
Speaker 2: you're trying to have a moment, and you're playing up
Speaker 2: to the camera and I'm telling you, I can see it.
Speaker 2: But the gag is Deriy is like, I don't care, bitch,
Speaker 2: I am even if I am, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2: And and and I'm here for it. dRIT is back,
Speaker 2: and I'm happy.
Speaker 3: I am curious to see how long social media stays
Speaker 3: on her side, because yeah, I was surprised that actually
Speaker 3: a lot of people really took her side. But also
Speaker 3: there's this like Kyle's an interesting character, because I think
Speaker 3: that the reception to Kyle, if you just ask like
Speaker 3: a normal viewer or just a normal person on the street,
Speaker 3: they'll say, I love Kyle, She's great, love watching her.
Speaker 3: But then with the like social media fandom that is
Speaker 3: very much still made up of disgruntled LVP fans who
Speaker 3: then migrated to become Garcelle fans. They have always had
Speaker 3: this like weird thing out for Kyle ever since she
Speaker 3: fell out with Lisa vander Pump and they can't get
Speaker 3: over it because they hold grudges like Lisa Vanda Pump does.
Speaker 3: So it's like online the chatter is like very much
Speaker 3: against Kyle, but I think I think overall, like the
Speaker 3: general public people would be on Kyle's side, And I'm
Speaker 3: just kind of curious to see, like how the reception
Speaker 3: continues as like the season goes on, and how messy
Speaker 3: is Dari going to get because everyone has said, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: dereets the villain, dereats the villain. She's the one that's
Speaker 3: like getting in all the mess and you never even
Speaker 3: know with the villain, like because sometimes the villain is
Speaker 3: the one that the whole audience gets behind, and then
Speaker 3: sometimes the villain is the one that everyone wants fired.
Speaker 3: So it's like, how is it kind of like.
Speaker 2: Braun when I saw like a little bit like like
Speaker 2: she's a fan favorite this season, Like how marka Garcia
Speaker 2: last season I saw was the fan favorite. But they're
Speaker 2: both kind of like villain's askts you do have a point,
Speaker 2: but look, this is dread season and.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I believe it was the first time in a while
Speaker 2: that Kyle was not the first guest on Watch What
Speaker 2: Happens Live after the premiere.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was impressed when I saw dearit on Watch
Speaker 3: What Happens Live. I was like, Oh, she go watch
Speaker 3: What Happens Live for the premiere. Okay, like and.
Speaker 1: That's a big deal.
Speaker 3: And she was sassy on Watch What Happens Live as well,
Speaker 3: because these two girls called in and they made a
Speaker 3: comment about Dedree being long winded, and she like threw
Speaker 3: it back at them and like mocked them. So like, ah, yeah,
Speaker 3: dereit is very activated.
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Derey. We love it and we can't wait
Speaker 2: to see more. And Jock, I can't wait to see
Speaker 2: more of you. I can't thank you enough for taking
Speaker 2: time out this evening to chat with me for this
Speaker 2: amazing episode. It was a ten out of ten. Beverly
Speaker 2: Hills is back, and dare I say it was the
Speaker 2: best season premiere of a Real housewalk that I've seen
Speaker 2: this year?
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, big words, but yeah, it was pretty fucking good.
Speaker 3: And thank you for having me back on and guys
Speaker 3: follow me at Unpopular JP on Instagram if you want
Speaker 3: more and look, I'm sure I'll be back on Reality
Speaker 3: with the King soon. I think I'm becoming a regular right.
Speaker 1: Yes, you are, my love.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you so much and I'll see you guys
Speaker 2: the next one.
Speaker 3: Bye bye.
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