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Speaker 2: Reality to King. It's me Carlos Kings, the King of

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Speaker 2: Reality TV and one of the most sought after executive

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Speaker 1: Twice a week on Reality with the Kings, we'll sit.

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Speaker 2: Down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our

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Speaker 2: favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are

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Speaker 1: Hey, rain Drops.

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Speaker 2: On today's episode of Reality with the King, he is back. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm being very honest. I kept thinking to myself, Carlos,

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Speaker 2: just recap this episode solo. It's fine, just do it,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, I think I owe it to

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Speaker 2: the rain drops for the season premiere season nine. Wait,

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Speaker 2: not nine, that's Potomac. It's like season like fourteen or something.

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Speaker 2: Premiere Season fourteen premiere of the Real housebotsor Beverley Hills,

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Speaker 2: and every time we're together we have so much fun.

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Speaker 1: And I know you guys love him.

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Speaker 2: I do too, but give it up a Daily Mayor

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Speaker 2: reporter and I guess my co host, Jock Peters, thanks for.

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Speaker 3: Leving me back. You're lucky that I have my life

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Speaker 3: and that I am available at the top of the

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Speaker 3: half to you, so thank you.

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Speaker 2: Well that makes them both of us right, Because he

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Speaker 2: said I could do it that five forty five la time.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that's like a forty five my time,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not doing anything else, but so let's.

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Speaker 1: Just do it.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate you so much. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you as much as I do.

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Speaker 1: Dereed. Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 3: She's activated.

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Speaker 1: The bitch is back. The bitch is back.

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Speaker 2: I am so proud of her because Jock, you and

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Speaker 2: I never talked about this in terms of like together

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Speaker 2: on a podcast. We tweeted about this. Social media ruined Dereed.

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Speaker 2: When she first came on the show her first two seasons,

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Speaker 2: she was funny, a brace up, you know, confrontational said However,

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Speaker 2: she felt she wasn't trying to, you know, be anything

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Speaker 2: by herself, and social media handed her ass to them,

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Speaker 2: and I always felt like she's giving us great TV,

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Speaker 2: she's being authentic. And then for like the past five

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Speaker 2: seasons she coasted and I was like, girl, you gotta go, honey, honey,

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Speaker 2: this episode belonged to dri and I think this season

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Speaker 2: belongs to her.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Like I knew that she was activated because I had

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Speaker 3: already heard through the grapevine that we're getting old school,

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Speaker 3: like season one to eat Back, but this is like

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Speaker 3: coming in hot. It's almost like it's not too much.

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Speaker 3: But I think with someone else you might be like,

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Speaker 3: many people on Beverly Hills are afraid to like really

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Speaker 3: is like no holds bard uncensored. I'm going in. I

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Speaker 3: don't give a fuck who you are. And it was incredible.

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Speaker 2: Oh I And in the words of Lisa Barlowe, I'm shaking.

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Speaker 1: I'm physically shaking. I also have five lawyers, Lisa Barla,

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Speaker 2: But I am shaking right, I was so listen. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to play second fiddle to you this season,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not protecting you either. I need this job.

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Speaker 1: Totally and listen.

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Speaker 2: She never said if it was a producer or a

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Speaker 3: Yes, But I do want to add that I don't

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Speaker 3: So I think it's more like that.

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Speaker 2: So, as you were watching the scene between Dear and Erica.

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Speaker 2: I felt like or read's intention in this episode from

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Speaker 1: Don't tell anybody. I felt like Derey was giving the

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Speaker 2: To Kyle this entire episode, from the revelation of her

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Speaker 2: Dorrit, what I'm telling you, something happened to Drey. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's the alleged accusation. I was told

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Speaker 1: Did you hear that job.

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Speaker 3: I also think that right, Yeah, when she went to

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Speaker 2: On the floor, honey, my job was on the floor,

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Speaker 1: Like it was.

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Speaker 2: It was so fascinating to watch, and for me, it

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Speaker 2: was just sort of like, dreat, You're not dumb, you

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Speaker 2: What I don't understand is what did Kyle ever do

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Speaker 2: in the sense of when Durrey revealed her personal text

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Speaker 1: I should never see that. That should never happen.

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Speaker 2: And I'm on Kyle's side in terms of when Kyle

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Speaker 1: Her mouth dropped too. I see why Kyle.

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Speaker 2: Is a messing with Deriy. I'm still not understanding what

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Speaker 3: I guess Durit feels manipulated, like she said she felt

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Speaker 3: But it's also like I do think that Durit was

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Speaker 2: I think to your point, I think Derey stopped loving

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked, shockingly, a lot of people are not feeling Garsel.

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Speaker 3: feel like every fucking season Garsell's whole storyline is like

436
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: I'm in the kitchen on a laptop, like on a

437
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 3: bumble profile, or like doing a zoom for work, Like

438
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: she gives us nothing. Her and Sutton both of them

439
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 3: together are actually so mean. They both make so many mean,

440
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: bitchy comments that actually feel like they totally feel like

441
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: mean girl comments because there's a certain power imbalance because

442
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: they are the fan faves and they can get away

443
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: with everything in the same way that Lisa van der

444
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: Pump used to be able to do it, whereas they

445
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: can constantly make those jabs and say nasty things in

446
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: the confessional, and like, you know, when Teddy, I know

447
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: people hate Teddy and she's annoying or whatever, but like

448
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: that's just one example, Like Teddy did nothing to garcel

449
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: and ted and Garcelle was just being mean to her

450
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: and everyone like cheered her on, like garcell could do

451
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: whatever she wanted. And they're doing it again this episode

452
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 3: and jabbing it. You know, Dereat's long. It's just showing

453
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 3: their true character. They are the two mean girls, and

454
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: they are the ones that play to the audience and

455
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 3: they are the ones that get away with murder. And

456
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: garcel especially never has a storyline other than you know

457
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 3: that her kids seem to think she wasn't the best mom,

458
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: So you know, like I hope people are starting to

459
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: wake up now about garcel and seeing the true colors there.

460
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: And yeah, they they are mean girls. And if like

461
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 3: Erica or Lisa, Rinna or whatever, whenever they would make

462
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: a little like bitchy comment, like social media would just

463
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: flip out, Oh my god, they're so nasty. They need

464
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: to be fired. They're ruining the show. They're so toxic.

465
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: But it's like Sutton and Garsel can get away with

466
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: being like as horrible as they want, and people like, yes,

467
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: like call them out. It's like at some point it's unnecessary.

468
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, I hope that the social media continues like

469
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 3: this throughout the season. And also, I mean, I know

470
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: we're going to get to this, but Deret's instant chemistry

471
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: with Bosoma.

472
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: Go go listen, listen, listen, listen.

473
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: I first of all, love Oz. Let's talk about that.

474
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 2: I And I'm gonna tell you why she's being authentically

475
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: hrh and you can tell.

476
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: And I mean, to come out of the car.

477
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: She's beautiful, she's gorgeous, to offer the dress everything I mean,

478
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: but she's so refreshingly funny, and I appreciated the fact

479
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: that Deiy and her bonded.

480
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 1: I listen.

481
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't think dere's a racist at all, And I've

482
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: said that I don't think.

483
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: That at all.

484
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: Again, it was very interesting to see that Dree bonded

485
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: with the new.

486
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: Black Girl and how Boz really likes Dery.

487
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: And not to spoil any things that I haven't seen

488
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: the rest of the season, but I have seen the

489
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: after show for the first episode on BravoTV dot com.

490
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: Boz and Dei's chemistry is real, and I don't think

491
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: it's fake. I think they both enjoy each other because

492
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: the difference between their friendship and the other women on

493
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: the show. They both get each other's thing. Like, they're

494
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: both fashionable, and they're both shady, and it's fun shady,

495
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: but it's not trying hard to be shady. It's very

496
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: subtle and they sort of like bounce off each other.

497
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: It's very interesting. But I love them together.

498
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: Their chemistry is just so instant, and Bow's like she

499
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: just felt like a star straight away, Like the second

500
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 3: she stepped out and opened her mouth, You're like, I

501
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: love you so likable straight away. I know Garsell's gonna

502
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: be going crazy over this, because you know, Garcel loves

503
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: to be able to go, well, you're a Karen and

504
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: to be able to pull that whenever someone goes against her.

505
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: We've seen it ever since the when Kyle called her

506
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: out for the charity thing, which is like, you didn't

507
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: pay for the charity. But then she's like, would you

508
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: have said that? If you know? Would you have said

509
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: that if I wasn't black? But it was like garsell

510
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: came after Kyle that entire season one sided, like non stop.

511
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: Like even if you guys, if you remember back on

512
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: that first season when garcel even like jabbed at Kyle

513
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: during her it was like a speech that she was giving,

514
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: like a charity thing or like a philanthropy thing, and

515
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: she like jabbed at Kyle in her speech for like

516
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: no reason. So Garcelle's been getting away with a lot

517
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: for a while. And I know that she would hate

518
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: seeing de eat and Bow's get along like that. And

519
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: I think Bo's is going to be instant fan favorite.

520
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: I mean, she already is from the social media reaction

521
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm seeing, and I think she's gonna be very very

522
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: popular on the show. And I am I'm excited. And

523
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: you know, I know that Beverly Hills, they've been trying

524
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: to bring more diversity in to the show and they've

525
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: had trouble because they had Crystal who Crystal had a

526
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: decent run, but like she just wasn't kind of opinionated

527
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: enough and wasn't being enough herself. And then, you know,

528
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: I really liked Anna Marie. I thought she was good,

529
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: but it just kind of didn't work out for whatever reason,

530
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: and they had to edit a lot of her stuff out.

531
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that now they've kind of got it right.

532
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: They've got someone that's fabulous and opinionated and that the

533
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: viewers are going to get behind, and like it's just

534
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: such a good cost. I'm so excited.

535
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: Child.

536
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: We are just getting started. This is reality with the

537
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

538
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: I've heard of Oz before because, like she said on

539
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: the show, she worked for Netflix and Uber and she's

540
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: always been like this corporate boss. So when she was

541
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: announced as the next housewife, I was like, oh, girl,

542
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: this is I didn't see that coming because she was

543
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: always like this professional powerhouse. To see how she is

544
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: so effortless on camera and how she's so confident. She

545
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: the thing with her that felt different, if I'm being

546
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: honest to me, she felt naturally integrated with the cast

547
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: in her first scene. It didn't seem like, oh, let's

548
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: just get this new black girl on the show, you

549
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like she it felt very organic.

550
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: She felt like she knew these women. The way she

551
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: was able to be herself around them. It just felt

552
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: very natural to me. And I agree with you in

553
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 2: terms of like great casts, because yes, the show hasn't

554
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: had that much diversity. Crystal Listen, Crystal is just not

555
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: a great reality star. I think she's a great human being.

556
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: You know, she's a great wife, a great mom, and

557
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: a great woman. But she's not a star. So I'm

558
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: happy that we have a star. Boz is a star.

559
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: And the commentary that she made and the look she

560
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: gave Kathy Hilton, who was taking out her extensions at

561
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: a dinner, I knew that, like Bars is here to stay.

562
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: And I liked that she wasn't afraid to kind of

563
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: like shade Kathy Hilton because a lot of the other

564
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: girls are like scared of Kathy and they don't want

565
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: to do anything that could upset Kathy. And Boz just

566
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: had like her own natural reaction to it, like this

567
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: is a fucking weird girl, Like why taking out your

568
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: extensions at the table. She didn't really care, and it

569
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: just felt like it didn't feel thirsty, it felt real,

570
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: it felt natural, And yeah, it doesn't feel like a

571
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: diversity higher at all. It feels like you were just

572
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: naturally in this group and you're a star, and this

573
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: doesn't feel contrived. And the same with like Bronwin, the

574
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: same energy with Bronwen coming into Salt Lake City where

575
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, this is just such a natural fit,

576
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: Like this is just so obvious that like you should

577
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: be with this group of women and I don't even

578
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: Sometimes with a new housewife, you're like, oh, give them

579
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: a few seasons to like settle in. And with her,

580
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: it's like episode one, like you're in.

581
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: It was instant. Yes, it was instant. It was instant.

582
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: It was instant. Jennifer Tilly, what did you think about her?

583
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: I was not impressed, ah.

584
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: At all.

585
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 3: And I'm a Jennifer Tilly fan. But like when Sutton

586
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: opened the door and Jennifer Tilly was screaming, sat down,

587
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: and like it felt like when Jamie Lee Curtis was

588
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: on last year with the wind Chimes or whatever and

589
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: she was kind of performing to the camera. It just

590
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: had that actressy thing to it, and like her home

591
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: was hideous and not in even a fun way. To me,

592
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: it just was kind of like outdated and depressing. And no,

593
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't like Jennifer Tilly on there at all.

594
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: You know.

595
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: Look, they've hyped her up a lot in all of

596
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: the pre press so she might get more fun and

597
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: quirky and have those quirky moments, but I all ready

598
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: feel like we have Sutton and Kathy Hilton for the quirkiness,

599
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: so it's like, oh, we need another quirky old broad Like,

600
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 3: I feel like we've got that covered. So I don't

601
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: love it at all.

602
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's the first episode, and first impressions are

603
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 2: everything I will say. I was just like, okay, where's

604
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: the ree?

605
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: You know, I was no shade, I was.

606
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, hey Jennifer, hey girl, where's three?

607
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: Where's Erica? Like when Erica got off the car her

608
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: amazing yellow outfit, that outfit was everything.

609
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 3: I was dying girl.

610
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: I was, I was, I was. I love eric O Jay,

611
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: I was here for it. I was like, this is

612
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: who I want to see. So again, she has been

613
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: hyped up. I listen, there's lots of talks about diversity hires. Honey,

614
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: let's talk about the hires of these Hollywood actresses who

615
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: don't need to be on my reality TV screen unless

616
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: you Liza Renna like so well see, but if Jennifer

617
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: Tilly is not giving me Eileen Davidson or Lisa Reena,

618
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: you know, an actress who brings there, an actress who

619
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: isn't playing up to this character. My concern with Jennifer

620
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: Tilly is are you playing up to this character?

621
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: You are?

622
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: I do think she's quirking real life, and I do

623
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: think she's all those things. But to me, it was

624
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: something about the way she greeted Sutton.

625
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: But I was like, we both felt it as soon as.

626
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, is this a two B movie that I'm watching? Like,

627
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: what is happening here?

628
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: TV? Yeah?

629
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: You know, you know, wait, can I get your take

630
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: on this? This is who I really want on Beverly Hills,

631
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: and I know they I feel like they tested it out.

632
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: I really want Cynthia Bailey on Beverly Hills, and I

633
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: was very disappointed when they brought her back to Atlanta

634
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: because I'm like, no, put her on Beverly Hills, because,

635
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: like you know, Housewives of Atlanta, Cynthia was always like,

636
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: you know, the nice one, the boring one, the voice

637
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 3: of reason, whatever. But on that on that Ultimate Girl's

638
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: Trip season one that had like Ramona and Kyle and

639
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: stuff like.

640
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: Cynthia the best one.

641
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: Yes, that was my favorite one as well the unpopular

642
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: opinion because most people like season two. I thought number

643
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: one was definitely the best and Cynthia was like most

644
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: of the drama on that and it was like, Cynthia

645
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: actually does have a big personality and a strong personality,

646
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: but it was like in Atlanta, you put her around

647
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: people that are on a level of like a Ninie

648
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: and a Ken You're in a Porsche, like you're just

649
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 3: gonna shrink smaller. But I feel like in Beverly Hills,

650
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: like the big parts of Cynthia's personality could really come

651
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: out and she's absolutely beautiful and she's naturally integrated into

652
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: that group, and I really really want her on Beverly

653
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: Hills more like I feel like she should be an

654
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: official friend of and then maybe even a housewife.

655
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: I could not agree with you more.

656
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: And then somebody who has worked with Cynthia Bailey from

657
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: season three to nine when I left the show, So

658
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: that's six strong years of me working with her. And

659
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: one thing that people don't know about Cynthia. Yes, we

660
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: know that she's an international model and all those things,

661
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: but Cynthia is somebody who really enjoys the luxury, the

662
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: luxury world of the Hamptons and Beverly Hills, right Like

663
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: that's her world. If you ever met her friends, then

664
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: I have a chance of meeting her bridesmaids where she

665
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: got married to Peter's season three, her first season.

666
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: And these are like.

667
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: Rebbitable women who are like rubbing elbows with like.

668
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: Donna Carron, do you know what I mean?

669
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: Belly Hills is way more Cynthia's world than Atlanta. And

670
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying that somebody who knows her personally, Syntha hangs

671
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: out with Luyne and the Hamptons, like almost every year

672
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: Cynthia hangs out with Jill Zarreon at charity events. None

673
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: of my Atlanta girls are hanging out with Joe's Aaron

674
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: or lou Anne or Sutton. That is Cynthia's world. And

675
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: Cynthia has a place in Sherman Oaks that her daughter lives,

676
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: and so Cynthia has every reason to be in California,

677
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: and I could not agree with you more. I think Cynthia,

678
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: who yes, has connections in Atlanta, But I've saw that

679
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: story play already, so I don't want to see that again.

680
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: As a friend, Row, I want to see Cynthia Bailly

681
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: look at cog On and say, okay, girl, no shade.

682
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: We can't bring up Morgan's name. When you brought her

683
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: name up last year, y'all got tattoos together. You went

684
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: to her event, y'all were and Garsell did a great

685
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: job at pushing it right. And I love ourselves for that.

686
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: Give God so credit for that.

687
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Jock Garsel. Do you want to Jock

688
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: over in this instance?

689
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: But garcilas did a great job pushing get But let

690
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: me tell you something about Cynthia Bailey, who has who

691
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: has been up against Phaedria Parks, Ninnie Leek's, Portia Williams.

692
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: Synthia knows how to get the story.

693
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: These girls are our Barbie's dream house compared to the

694
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: women that Synthay had to deal with in Atlanta. I

695
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: promise y'all one thing for sure, Cynthia is unassuming.

696
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: If Cynthy would.

697
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: Have asked Kyle questions about Morgan, I promise you Kyle

698
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: would have revealed way more than she gave Garsel because

699
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: Kyle knows what Garsell you're being nosy. And although Cynthia

700
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: may be nosy because she is, she's unassuming and she

701
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: does have a good heart, So I'm with you. I

702
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 2: want Cynthia Bailey as a friend of on Beillley Hills.

703
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: Garseel also is in a safe space because she will

704
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: weaponize I mean Lisa Vanna Pump's style. I find her

705
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: quite similar to Lisa Vandam in a lot of ways,

706
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: Like she will take that personal information and use it

707
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 3: against you. So even when Kyle, you know, Kyle went, look,

708
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: I'm just I feel safe with you guys. I'm going

709
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: to like tell you this. That was just Kyle trying

710
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: to get ahead of the story or whatever, like she

711
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: didn't really want to confide about But it's like Cynthia's

712
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: actually a good person, so you could tell her that

713
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: and know that she's not going to do something nasty

714
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: with it. And also one thing about Garcel, like Garcel

715
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: is not funny at all, Like she's really not even

716
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: very charismatic.

717
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: She's just I think she has funny No, no, no,

718
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: I think Arca has funny interview bites.

719
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: I don't like, and she I feel like she's always

720
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 3: laughing at her own jokes, not at all. But I

721
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: think Cynthia Bailey is fucking hilarious. I think Cynthia is

722
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: so underrated, like in how funny she is and just

723
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 3: her little reactions and her lines and stuff. And I

724
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: think Cynthia's reactions in her confessionals to like Morgan and

725
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: Kyle would just be like gold. Like I don't actually

726
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: understand why the producers haven't done it yet. It felt

727
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: like they tested Cynthia out a season or two ago.

728
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: But I think it was like a really dramatic dinner

729
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: party where stuff was happening with Sutton or some one

730
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 3: of the other girls.

731
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: No, it's when, Honey, she was at the dinner party.

732
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: When Sutton an Erica and asked Kai about her marriage.

733
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah that one.

734
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: Yes. So to your point, she wasn't, you know, like

735
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: a lot was going on that night.

736
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: Yes, So she didn't get a chance to like get

737
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: in there and like shine. So the producers might have

738
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: been like, oh, she kind of flopped there, But it's

739
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: like that's not really fair, like invite her to a

740
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: few events and like getting sidetracked, but I'm curious to

741
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: see her on Oh my god, wait, I've got a question.

742
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: I need to ask you from production standpoint, because this

743
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: is crazy to me and you're mister super producer. So

744
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: you would have heard that with the new season of Atlanta,

745
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 3: they brought Phadri in. She only filmed for two weeks

746
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: out of the whole season and they made her full time.

747
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: How the fuck are they pulling that off? Like do

748
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: you think then they showed another month of like pickup

749
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 3: scenes and it's just gonna be like a Frankenstein editing joke.

750
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: Like that was ridiculous.

751
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: You know what's so funny about that? Everything you said

752
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: is true. Faedra came in the last two weeks of

753
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: Feel Me. She was able to make the this is

754
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: all online, so I'm not like spilling like things I'm

755
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: not supposed to. Fedra left Meryton Medicine because something happened

756
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: to her on that show that we'll see this season

757
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: where she walked away from the show. Okay, and this

758
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: is listen, this is this is the truth. Faedra Parks

759
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: walked away from Maryton Medicine and within a week and

760
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: a half was on the Girls international trip on the

761
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: Land of Housewives and signed her contract within less than

762
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: two weeks.

763
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: Okay, they literally got.

764
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: Back from the international trip and maybe had like a

765
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: week or two left of filming. Phaser probably will be

766
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: in four episodes, but again it goes to show you

767
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: the power of that woman, right, like the fact, I

768
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: don't know anybody in the history of reality television can

769
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: quit one show, walk away from it what they're gonna

770
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: call it, and under two weeks go back to a

771
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: show that she was not on for seven years with

772
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: two weeks left of filming and not and to John's point,

773
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: not just as a friend, but as an official housewife.

774
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: We will see Faser Parks holding a peach in the

775
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: opening credits episode fourteen.

776
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: How can they do that? Like they cannot seriously go

777
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: through like like three quarters of a season without Like

778
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: are they just going to be like sprinkling her in

779
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: with like pick up the scenes and stuff.

780
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no no.

781
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 2: But because you have to and listen, I'm saying things

782
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: that I don't know for a fact, it does work

783
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: with me. Here, Maritime Medicine airs this this Sunday and

784
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: Atlanta's not airing until twenty twenty five, and we don't

785
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: know them up yet.

786
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: You have to see like the story why she's not

787
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: on that show anymore.

788
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: So the beauty of that jock is you get to

789
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: see what happened on her, what happened to her on

790
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: Maritime Medicine in terms of why she left, so that

791
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: when you see her in Atlanta, you're not just like, well,

792
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: that's no, that doesn't make any sense because you were

793
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: on a you were you were on The Girl's Trip

794
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, a Mariti Medicine. So the beauty of it

795
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: is like this anticipation that when she's back, she's back,

796
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: so no, there'll be no pickup.

797
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: Scenes to like show her earlier.

798
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: She literally makes her debut on The Girl's Trip, which

799
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: is which is which is iconic in itself.

800
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 3: It's just iconic over the making her full time.

801
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Though.

802
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: I feel like that season, I don't know, like I

803
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: feel like, I know you have to be careful, you

804
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: don't want to like you have to be careful how

805
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: you comment on it because you worked on it for

806
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: so long. But like, that season's gonna be such a

807
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: mess because they shot all that stuff with Kenya and

808
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 3: then I think they then they had to cut Kenya out,

809
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: and then I think they had to like start again,

810
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: and then they feature moilming for two weeks that she's

811
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: full time, Like what the hell?

812
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: I know? And I know, and that's the reason why

813
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: it's going to listen.

814
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna be the most watched season to me because

815
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: of everything that happened off season that were so curious about.

816
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: So as we finished off Billy Hills, though, how do

817
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: you feel about.

818
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Kyle now wanting to bring up Morgan?

819
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: I did find it strange because they filmed last season.

820
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: The only rational excuse for me is Morgan probably had

821
00:45:54,920 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 2: no idea how big this show was, and maybe the attention.

822
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: Wasn't something she wanted to that degree.

823
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: Here's what I think happened. So I think that Morgan

824
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: and Kyle had a really I think they had this

825
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: like instant friendship. I think they were bonding through Kyle's

826
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: you know, divorce and all of this stuff, and then

827
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: Kyle started getting you know, kind of like having a

828
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: midlife crisis, not saying that in a shady way, but

829
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: just your midlife change or whatever and getting fit all

830
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: of this stuff, and then I think it was like

831
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: let's play into this and like have some fun with it.

832
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: And I think Kyle didn't want to feel like my

833
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: husband went and like left me for a younger woman

834
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: or whatever, like she really wanted to still be like

835
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: I'm hot, like I've got the younger woman. But I

836
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: but then I think she actually fell for Morgan along

837
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: the way. I don't know if they consummated their relationship.

838
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was just like an emotional thing,

839
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 3: like something was happening along the way where it really

840
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: became more than friends. And then I do think that

841
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: Morgan kind of freaked out about Okay, this like pressed

842
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: scrutiny is so much like, yes, I wanted to use

843
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 3: this to help launch my career, but at the end

844
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 3: of the day, like I'm an artist, I'm missing a

845
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: songwriter first and foremost, I'm not a reality TV star.

846
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 3: I'm not like a page six staple. I don't want

847
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: to have every time I mentioned as just you know,

848
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: me dating you, maybe Morgan being a lot younger, Like

849
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: here's the thing, Okay, here's the thing about LGBT. We

850
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: can say this they really and at the lesbians and

851
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: the gays. They like to turn a straight person and

852
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: then I think sometimes it's like they like to do it,

853
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: and then the it's like, well, I've checked, I've done

854
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: it now and I'm moving on. And I think maybe

855
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: Morgan was a bit like okay, like I turned you

856
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: and we had our emotional affair and stuff, but at

857
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you're like twenty years older

858
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: than me, and you're divorced with all these kids, and

859
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: I've got a music career and I don't want to

860
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: be a reality star, and I think she put a

861
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: stop to it. And now I think that's why Kyle's

862
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 3: awkwardly like, well now I can't talk about her and

863
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: I can't share it. And I think people think that

864
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: Kyle just was completely faking this and like milking it

865
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 3: for attention, which I don't think it was. Like that

866
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: was like one element, but there's a lot more. There's

867
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 3: a lot more to it than that.

868
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I listen.

869
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: My opinion is I definitely think her, Kyle and Morgan

870
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 2: had a relationship, whether they defined it as girlfriend girlfriend,

871
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 2: based on this scene that I watched, all the scenes

872
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: that I watched of them last season, they have chemistry.

873
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: Kile was in love with her, Kyle was in love

874
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 3: with her.

875
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: I could see it.

876
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: I felt like I could see it because I'm like

877
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: when I'm like in love with someone and like in

878
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 3: the moment with them and you're like so excited and

879
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 3: you're like feeling it, like and I saw that on Kyle,

880
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: and I'm like, she's like in love with Morgan Wade.

881
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: Did you feel like Morgan is in love with her?

882
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Oh no, yeah, I think it

883
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: was more from Kyle that makes me say. I think

884
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: I think Morgan was curious and a lot of a

885
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: lot of lesbians do like to turn a straight woman,

886
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: and it's actually very common. Like one of my really

887
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: close friends is a lesbian and like and she's you know,

888
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: like a gold star lesbian and she actually gets in

889
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: like a few relationships with straight women that like come

890
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: out of a marriage and then want to have a

891
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: fling with another woman. Like it's a common thing. So

892
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: I think Morgan was curious and probably had a lot

893
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: of affection for her and stuff. But I think Kyle

894
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: ended up getting stronger feelings in the end.

895
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: And that's probably why when Kyle was asked those questions,

896
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: you saw like the nervousness and and you know, like

897
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: her shoulders were tense, she looked afraid, you know, like

898
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: it was it was like it was very interesting, and

899
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: it was like, what was happening here?

900
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: And I think it is what you said?

901
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 2: I think I think at that time of filming, I

902
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: think Morgan probably said this is getting a little bit

903
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: too much, and don't talk about me on the show

904
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 2: and let's just figure things out. And I think Kyle,

905
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: to her credit, she did not want to apply a

906
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: title to their relationship at that at that time. I

907
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: have heard that they're allegedly still seeing each other. I

908
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: have heard that's based on people at parties and flights.

909
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting. Now, Well I can see the appeal

910
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 3: as well, because like, look, Kyle was in this marriage

911
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 3: for a really long time and at some well we

912
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: remember what Alison Dubois said, he'll never emotionally fulfill you.

913
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: And you know men can be like that. It's a

914
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: bit like there's a lot of emotionally unavailable men out there,

915
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: and you know, women, women are more emotional and probably

916
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: where Kyle was in her life, she probably got a

917
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 3: lot of this like attention and emotional intimacy that she

918
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: was craving. And then also like I could see Morgan

919
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: taking on a very masculine role. And I'm not talking

920
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: about in terms of being you know, top and bottom

921
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 3: in the bedroom. I'm talking about holding the door open,

922
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: like being chivalrous, like making me feel like a princess

923
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 3: and making me feel like a woman and making me

924
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: feel very safe and taking care of like physically and emotionally.

925
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 3: And I could see where Kyle was in her life

926
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: really falling into that.

927
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: I do two, I do too, I do two.

928
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: I cannot agree with you more about that and listen,

929
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: and it showed, it showed with her uncomfortableness talking about it. Now,

930
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: let's get into the moment of the episode. And I

931
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: can't wait until episode two of this season.

932
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: Derey is ready.

933
00:51:54,880 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: When when the girls were talking it the power of.

934
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: Dreed when she got around.

935
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: The table and hey, Kyle, like, hi, as if you

936
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: two haven't spoken in months, as if you did not

937
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 2: just see her fucking sister. Uh, but they have this

938
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: strange relationship. DEI was like, let's go. Drey sat down

939
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: and this is the this is my favorite part, the.

940
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: Reason why Kyle kept saying, like, why are you acting

941
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: like this?

942
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: You're not being yourself because Kyle's like, why are you

943
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: coming for me? And Dere's like, welcome back to the

944
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: old derry bitch. I am no longer playing second fiddle

945
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: to you. I am not your background singer. Okay, I

946
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: am not Christina Aguilera and you're Britney Spears. I am

947
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 2: coming for my spot again, and it will be at

948
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 2: the expense.

949
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: Of you, bitch. Duriit was ready, and to.

950
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 2: Me, there was this fear on Kyle's face in terms

951
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: of how much is DeWitt going to reveal because this

952
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: the gag Jock deurit really knows about what's happened with

953
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 2: Morgan and Kyle.

954
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: And Mauricio.

955
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god, if she reveals that on the show,

956
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: that would be that would be fucking wild. But I

957
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: did love that. I love that moment of Kyle being

958
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: like who are you because it was like a real

959
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: full bully break of like what are you doing? Like

960
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: you're turning up for the cameras, like who are you?

961
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: Like that was that was kind of crazy, like what

962
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 3: do you do?

963
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: It was?

964
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: It was something like it was so funny because cause listen,

965
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: let's let's let's have a real conversation.

966
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: Kyle is looking at derate, like.

967
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 2: You were on the chopping block, you got your job back,

968
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 2: and now now you're gonna come for me, and and

969
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: like who are you God, Kyle was pretty much telling Derey,

970
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 2: you look desperate. Yes, you look desperate to have a moment,

971
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: and you're trying to have a moment to me, And

972
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: to Jock's point, that was Kyle's subtle way of telling Derey,

973
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: you're trying to have a moment, and you're playing up

974
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: to the camera and I'm telling you, I can see it.

975
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 2: But the gag is Deriy is like, I don't care, bitch,

976
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: I am even if I am, I'm gonna do it.

977
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: And and and I'm here for it. dRIT is back,

978
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: and I'm happy.

979
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 3: I am curious to see how long social media stays

980
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 3: on her side, because yeah, I was surprised that actually

981
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 3: a lot of people really took her side. But also

982
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: there's this like Kyle's an interesting character, because I think

983
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: that the reception to Kyle, if you just ask like

984
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 3: a normal viewer or just a normal person on the street,

985
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 3: they'll say, I love Kyle, She's great, love watching her.

986
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 3: But then with the like social media fandom that is

987
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: very much still made up of disgruntled LVP fans who

988
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: then migrated to become Garcelle fans. They have always had

989
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: this like weird thing out for Kyle ever since she

990
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 3: fell out with Lisa vander Pump and they can't get

991
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 3: over it because they hold grudges like Lisa Vanda Pump does.

992
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 3: So it's like online the chatter is like very much

993
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 3: against Kyle, but I think I think overall, like the

994
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 3: general public people would be on Kyle's side, And I'm

995
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 3: just kind of curious to see, like how the reception

996
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 3: continues as like the season goes on, and how messy

997
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: is Dari going to get because everyone has said, like, yeah,

998
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: dereets the villain, dereats the villain. She's the one that's

999
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: like getting in all the mess and you never even

1000
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 3: know with the villain, like because sometimes the villain is

1001
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: the one that the whole audience gets behind, and then

1002
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: sometimes the villain is the one that everyone wants fired.

1003
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: So it's like, how is it kind of like.

1004
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: Braun when I saw like a little bit like like

1005
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: she's a fan favorite this season, Like how marka Garcia

1006
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: last season I saw was the fan favorite. But they're

1007
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: both kind of like villain's askts you do have a point,

1008
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: but look, this is dread season and.

1009
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: Listen.

1010
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 2: I believe it was the first time in a while

1011
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: that Kyle was not the first guest on Watch What

1012
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: Happens Live after the premiere.

1013
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I was impressed when I saw dearit on Watch

1014
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: What Happens Live. I was like, Oh, she go watch

1015
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 3: What Happens Live for the premiere. Okay, like and.

1016
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: That's a big deal.

1017
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 3: And she was sassy on Watch What Happens Live as well,

1018
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: because these two girls called in and they made a

1019
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: comment about Dedree being long winded, and she like threw

1020
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 3: it back at them and like mocked them. So like, ah, yeah,

1021
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: dereit is very activated.

1022
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Derey. We love it and we can't wait

1023
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: to see more. And Jock, I can't wait to see

1024
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: more of you. I can't thank you enough for taking

1025
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: time out this evening to chat with me for this

1026
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: amazing episode. It was a ten out of ten. Beverly

1027
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: Hills is back, and dare I say it was the

1028
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 2: best season premiere of a Real housewalk that I've seen

1029
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: this year?

1030
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, big words, but yeah, it was pretty fucking good.

1031
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 3: And thank you for having me back on and guys

1032
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: follow me at Unpopular JP on Instagram if you want

1033
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: more and look, I'm sure I'll be back on Reality

1034
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: with the King soon. I think I'm becoming a regular right.

1035
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: Yes, you are, my love.

1036
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: I appreciate you so much and I'll see you guys

1037
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: the next one.

1038
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: Bye bye.

1039
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