1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Hello, Marv, Hello Kelly. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 3: I just said to you, it's July first when we're 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 3: recording this, and you guys are not going to hear 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: it until the second week of July, which I believe 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: will be the tenth. Yes, it's the day before my birthday, 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: but everyone's on holiday for July fourth, so we're kind 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: of doing the report of the whole month of July. 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: But I told you, I woke up this morning and 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: I just felt the energy of July. It's my birthday month. 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 3: It just puts me in such a good mood. My 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: little cancer spirit is just so excited. 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: You've you've you've come home in the zodiac. 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: I really have full circle moment for me. But today 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about we're going to start talking 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: about the new moon. And you made the point to 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: make sure to say this new moon is great. The 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: new moon is good. It's high opening the first week 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: of July, and so by the time you guys hear this, 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: it will have already happened. It's happening on the fifth 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: of July. But we did want to give you that 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 3: energy before we get into some of the harder aspects 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: that are happening this month. So let's talk about the 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: new moon. 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 4: Marv. 27 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's in cancer. You know, this is a I mean, 28 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: I love cancer because cancer is the fourth house in astrology, 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: which is the house of the soul. It's the end 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: of the matter. Anything that occurs in the fourth house 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: cost is the end of the matter. So that's the 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: entrance point of the soul, and it's the exit point 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: for the soul. And it's also it's vitally important because 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 2: you know, with so much of that soul energy, it's 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: using feelings and emotions. Is what really is the driver 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: for your your progress in life? Is it not? Because 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: the fourth house holds emotional security, emotional stability, self image, 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: that's a huge one. So it's got all the conditioning 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: and programmings. It's the feminine process. It's the mother is 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: the programmer. So you know, cancer, cancer is a big 41 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: deal in my mind, and it's the merger point for 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: the masculine and feminine, and that is even a bigger deal. 43 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: You know, how is the you know, the masculine is 44 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: programmed to go out and be independent uh to be 45 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: uh strong and and and on its own and all 46 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: of that. Here's one of the things that one of 47 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: my favorite austrolk teachers and astrologers must awakened to our 48 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: female archetype or internal goddess figures. We must ask ourselves 49 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: repeatedly what our real needs are, experience them, validate them, 50 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: and restructure our lives so that we may meet them fully. So, 51 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: in other words, the masculine has to and we've talked 52 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: about this, it has to slowly integrate the feminine, right, 53 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean, to be whole, to be in balance, to 54 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: be in harmony with yourself. So the feminine has to 55 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: be integrated into that masculine. So let's think about this. 56 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: When we're first first come on board, from zero to 57 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: three and a half, it's mothers teaching us about security, right, 58 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: and then the next three and a half years it's 59 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: father teaching you how to be the pack status, go 60 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: out in the world, take the world by storm, you know, 61 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 2: be independent, be a man. Well, wherein does the man 62 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: rebring in the feminine? And that's a problem that is 63 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: a greater problem than you can possibly imagine. That I 64 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: get that I have to deal with with clients constantly. 65 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: That men aren't integrating their own feminine energy. 66 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: Well it's not even that, it's like, how about the 67 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: women that are way over masculine? 68 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: Right? 69 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can't tell you how many women 70 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: I've told that you're out man and a man, no 71 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: wonder you're single? Right, Men now are kind of wimpy anyway. 72 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, we've got to get to 73 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: the place to where the masculine allows the feminine and 74 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: they're feminine to become much more equal. And that's what 75 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: this is really all about. And of course now at 76 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: the at the at the cancer New Moon, this is 77 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: this is the merging point for the ego or the 78 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: masculine component of consciousness to lose control. It is swallowed 79 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: and symbolically speaking dies in order that consciousness and the 80 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: unconscious can be united. So the feminine is the unconscious. 81 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: And that's why it's imagination, it's visualization, it's intuition, you see. 82 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: And I mean you know when you say intuition, you 83 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: don't think of a man, you think of a woman. 84 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: Men don't see themselves as being intuitive. 85 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: Well that's even a sing. We say the women's intuition 86 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: like a woman's intuition. That's what people are always taught. 87 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it does, and it's not necessarily it's not 88 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: necessarily true like that, sure, but I mean that's the 89 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: way culture has really has defined masculine. You know, we're 90 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: not supposed to be vision the visualizing then, so the 91 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: balance and finality is the balances. The feminine does the 92 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: visualization in the mask, and then it turns it over 93 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: to the masculine to go to go create division. I mean, 94 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: that's put it in in pretty simple terms. So this 95 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: month is really about it's about really merging in to 96 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: our creative selves, our potential selves. And so listen, look 97 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 2: at what the what the what? 98 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 4: The new moon is Okay, feeding. 99 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: One's appetite, luxurating in the pleasure of the senses, and 100 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: finding the middle ground between self discipline and over indulgence, 101 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: and transforming one's dreams and desires into artistic creation. So 102 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: we've got a great couple of two weeks here to 103 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: where we need to dream. This is dream time, this 104 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: is this is time to allow ourselves to enjoy this planet. 105 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: That's very Torrean, but we need to enjoy what life 106 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: has to offer for one moment at each moment at 107 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: a time, I was I was reading something today and 108 00:07:52,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: it was talking about you know, life is about opportunity. 109 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: That's oh, if you just no matter what comes at you, 110 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: if you accept it as an opportunity. Look how much 111 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: different we would react to things that we think are 112 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: bad or or versus good or or in other words, 113 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you see how far we're out of balance 114 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: when we talk about bad and good. 115 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean you and I have talked about 116 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: that on the podcast before that shift in and of itself. 117 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: I mean, there's definitely some things that are always going 118 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 3: to be like something might like a breakup or a death. 119 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: Those things are going to be painful to experience, and 120 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: there is always usually more to the story. There's more 121 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: to the lesson, there's some of it's just a part 122 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: of life that you know, we'll just go through. So 123 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: it's not to diminish people's feelings about it. But it's 124 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: also like what you're saying on the day to day, 125 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: when we're going through life and something happens, like you 126 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: lose a client, you with something with work, something with 127 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: a friendship, it doesn't necessarily have to be bad. But 128 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: we decided at some point things are good or bad. 129 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: So if we label them that way, then obviously it 130 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: feels that way. But if you look at it from 131 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 3: a different perspective of I don't know what it is, 132 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: something's here, something's happening, and lean into the lesson, there's 133 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: always something more. 134 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, and I mean then when you add to 135 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: it the fact that you're the one that's created it, 136 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: you attracted it, then you better be asking the question 137 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: that I'm always saying, what is this teaching me? 138 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: Right? 139 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: What is this showing me right? It's opportunity. And so 140 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: I think that this full this new Moon is really 141 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: about attaching and attracting and working towards our opportunities to 142 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: experience life on a moment of moment or at least 143 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: a daily basis, and looking quit looking backwards. And of course, 144 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: since we have a Pluto opposed Mercury communications. 145 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, in the in the new Moon chart, Yeah, anytime 146 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: I see Pluto on light loop. 147 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: Uh, communications can be sensive probing. We've always called this 148 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: the interrogator. So when Pluto and Mercury's involved in an opposition, 149 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: that's the interrogator. The communications are intense, they're probing, they're 150 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: trying to uncover. It's like the Pluto is sensing some 151 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: in uh, some psychology and motive behind what's going on, 152 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: and you're trying to say, well, this is what's really 153 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: going on for me, and it just creates an intense 154 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: conversation of what you were just describing. You got to 155 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: be able to try to perceive how another person is 156 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: looking at it and then leave it at that. Yeah, 157 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: but when it's opposition Pluto, Pluto changes through pain, So 158 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: I would I would caution people to pay attention to 159 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: your communications all month long. That's going to be all month, 160 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: it's going to be very important. Obsessive thinking and fixating 161 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 2: on ideas. These are all problems trying to dominate a 162 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: conversation or feeling dominated by others in a conversation that 163 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: all Pluto Mercury, and the other problem that's going to 164 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: come up would will be Uranus is conjuncting Mars Mars 165 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: Mars is a fight, it's the fighter, it's my will, 166 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: it's my independence, it's what I want. And uranus is 167 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: break up, break out, rebellion, and so there's going to 168 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: be sudden decisive actions that probably you need to sit 169 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: and count about twenty twenty five before you take them 170 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: and really think things through and give you an edge 171 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: on the Pluto mercury. So there's a need to break 172 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: free from constraints. Rebellion is strong, independence is strong. On 173 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 2: the positive side, there can be some innovative thinking, that's guranus. 174 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: There can be some creative problem solving that's guronus originality uranus. 175 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: So in other words, it could be used for good. 176 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: But if you find yourself going off and battling and 177 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: using that Mars energy, you're probably out of balance just 178 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: a little bit. So I would say that you need 179 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: to step back. Not only count to twenty five with communications, 180 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: well you might even want to count to fifty with 181 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: how you action that's going to involve others. Okay, Typically 182 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: what I tell people, if you're going to be angry 183 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: about something, how about giving it twenty four hours. No, 184 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: if you are angry about it in twenty four hours, 185 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: well then shut up right. 186 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 3: You can get a lot of clarity when you sleep 187 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: on things, when you wait twenty four hours, even sometimes 188 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: I do, let's wait an hour to respond. In general, 189 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: if it's a text message or something that pause, there's 190 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: so much clarity in the pause always, So. 191 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: Any rate so there can be some sudden, unexpected rebellious factions. 192 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: Could be positive, could be negatives. It just depends on 193 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: how you want to use your Martian interview. Okay, do 194 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: you want to fight or do you want to explore. 195 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: Venus is also conjunct the moon, which is actually very pleasant. 196 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: That's that. This is a I mean, this is part 197 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: of the good part of the new moonness for this month, 198 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: and that is uh, Venus is it's pleasing, it's helpful, 199 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: it's caring its perception around the needs of others and lightheartedness, 200 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: tenderness with partners. So what a great what a great 201 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: aspect that is? 202 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds amazing. 203 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: I like that one, Yes, okay, And this is what 204 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: cancer needs to be, all internal and balanced. And so 205 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: you want to know about the Saturn retrograde and Pisces, Well. 206 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: I asked you about this specifically because it's all the 207 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: rage on social media and everyone talks about retrogrades as 208 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: doomsday all the time, and Saturn is a little bit 209 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: I don't feel like it's as destructive as. 210 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: Pluto, am I right in that? 211 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, but it definitely is gonna make us reflect, right, 212 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: like it's going to uncover some things, and on social media, 213 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: the way I keep hearing it talked about is like, oh, 214 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: Karma's coming, Karma's coming. And I mean I even said 215 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: to a friend, I'm like, I associate karma with bad behavior, 216 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: and karma can be good. It's like, if you've been 217 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: really working hard and planning and setting up something, this 218 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: maybe the time where that comes to fruition because of 219 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: the karma. So it's like things can be good. But 220 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: the way I keep seeing it on social media is 221 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: so doomsday that I wanted us to talk about it 222 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: a little bit so that we can kind of reframe 223 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: the Saturn retrograde, because I know that you probably can 224 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: do that. 225 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: Well. First off, Saturn is how you construct reality. Tell 226 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: us more, that's your responsibility to build the life and 227 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: reality you choose and guess who's yes, it's guess who. 228 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: It's a symbiotic relationship is. 229 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: With answer the moon. The moon. 230 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: Okay, the moon establishes what I need to be secure, okay, 231 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: and then Saturn says, okay, let me go out and 232 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: construct that. So you go out and you construct the 233 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: life that's going to give you security. Okay, that you think, 234 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: and then there'll come a time when what you've built 235 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: is no longer works. 236 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: Oh, I get where you're going. 237 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So now all of a sudden you've you've got 238 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: to say, well, wait a minute, this isn't working like 239 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: it should, This isn't working like I was thinking. I 240 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: wanted it to work. And so Saturn gives you an 241 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: opportunity when it comes along to rebuild the reality or 242 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: make some changes. Actually, actually, the way the ancients talked 243 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 2: about it is changed. So when you look at Saturn 244 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: in the chart as a transit, it really means change. 245 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: But the beautiful thing about Saturn is Saturn doesn't deny. 246 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: It delays. So it delays so you can reevaluate the 247 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: reality that you've constructed. Okay, Now, when a planet goes retrograde, 248 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: that means that our perception of that energy has reached 249 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: a point, has reached a degree point, and we can't 250 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: get past it in consciousness until we change our perception 251 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: of that degree. 252 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: The degree the me I got to be honest. 253 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 2: Well, now the planet backs up from our perspective, So 254 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: in other words, the planet is going around in a circle. Yeah, 255 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: until and from our perception when it gets to a 256 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: certain place typically opposed the sun when it gets to 257 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: a certain place, it looks like from our earth bound perception, 258 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: it's going backwards. 259 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: Right. 260 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: So the way we describe that symbolism is that it 261 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: went up to a point and then it started retrograding 262 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: back to a point. So we're looking at two points. Okay, 263 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 2: the point it went up to the point that it 264 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: went back to. Okay, the point that it goes up to. 265 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: We cannot absorb into consciousness fully what that saturn at 266 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: that point means or what it's a better definition of 267 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 2: how to think about our reality, how we've constructed it, 268 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 2: and so on about our individual lives. 269 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: So that's why we go back. 270 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: That's why we go back to a point. Okay, we've 271 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: already crossed, and we got to reevaluate, right and change 272 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: the perspective we had when it crossed it. 273 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: Okay, So let me ask this. So basically, one of 274 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: the things that I've been seeing focuses on if there's 275 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: anything faulty in your life, like a faulty system, you've 276 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 3: built a fault a relationship based on like a faulty foundation, 277 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: or a job that isn't in alignment with you, That 278 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: is what kind of thing might come up now during 279 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: this retrograde is something that like what I'm hearing you 280 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: say is we got to this point, we put a 281 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: system in place in our life, and it's like we're 282 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: going to go back a little bit and be like, wait, 283 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 3: that system's the right system, right, and if the ones 284 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: that stay are meant for you, and then the ones 285 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: that go during these periods of time, we're never really 286 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: supposed to be on your journey anyway. 287 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: Well no, it's not that it is supposed to be 288 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: on your journey. 289 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 3: It's not supposed to go past that next degree. 290 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: You can't go past that next degree until you go 291 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: back and reevaluate. God, that would be the change. 292 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay. 293 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: Once Saturn does is it challenges the weak link, got 294 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 5: it and your reality? Okay, So just think of a 295 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 5: chain and Saturn says, hey, this change is going to 296 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 5: break if you pull on it right here. So you've 297 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 5: got to reconfigure and change that point or that link 298 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 5: so that you have a much better foundation, that you 299 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 5: have much better boundaries. So it's always challenging the weak link, 300 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 5: but it never denies. In other words, you know, Saturn 301 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 5: is responsible for the seven year rich. 302 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 3: Oh oh, that makes because we get it. Saturn comes in, 303 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 3: we have the Saturn returns, we have all that. Yeah, 304 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 3: it's all clicking. 305 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: How many how many relationship Britain seven years? 306 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing Saturn. 307 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 5: Okay, but they all don't break ups. 308 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: With each other. They change some things right to come 309 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: to a win win situation. That's all that Saturn ever asks. 310 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: Make it when when. 311 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: I kind of love Saturn, Okay, here's the thing, you go, 312 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: I'm just saying because I think, I mean, I can 313 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: just say that, like I don't know that I'll love 314 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 3: the moments of it. I'm gonna remind myself of that 315 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: when I'm having a hard moment in this Saturn return. 316 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: But it's exactly like what we said earlier. If you're 317 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: not attaching good and bad to things and you're just 318 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: looking at it from this perspective of we're going to 319 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: go in and reevaluate certain systems and maybe it doesn't 320 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: have to end like you said. Maybe it's just faulty 321 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: and need some adjustments, but it's for the purpose of 322 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 3: a win win at the end of it. Doesn't mean 323 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 3: it's always going to be comfortable, but the end goal 324 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 3: is supposed to be good. It's for your highest good 325 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 3: at all times. 326 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 4: Always, yeah, okay, always. 327 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: I mean you're the master of this energy, right, You're 328 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: the one that's making it good and bad? 329 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: Right, I mean. 330 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: You're always in charge. You. No, energy doesn't do anything 331 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: by itself. It's how you use it. And I mean 332 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: you don't think about it. I mean, you know, after 333 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: you've been together for seven years, the infatuation is over, 334 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 2: the attraction is over, and what's left is cold, hard relationship. 335 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 3: Right, So do you want to make do the put 336 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: the effort in and make the changes and do the word. 337 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: Do you want to put the effort in? And do 338 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: you want to deepen the love and make this chain 339 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: length stronger? Because we've gone through our negotiation period and 340 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: we both agree, we both win and we're better for it. 341 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: And that's as simple as it is, or complex that 342 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: as it is. So this particular twenty degree saturn in Pisces, Yes, 343 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: this is asking us to bring discipline to our spiritual practices. 344 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: That's the Pisces. Pisces is spiritual, and so what kind 345 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: of disciplines are you utilizing to build on your spiritual self? 346 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: It's building healthy boundaries in relationships, It's avoiding escapism, that's 347 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: a classic Pisces problem. Escaping from a problem. Okay, it's 348 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: creative discipline. So it's the structure of practicality. How have 349 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: you structured your life? And have you have you created 350 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: a routine? Have you practiced it? And if you are, 351 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: you committed to it? And so it's a creative process. 352 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of time artists will come up, 353 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you could get a song and 354 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: you can get you might be humming it or or 355 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: pain a painting. Well, you wouldn't get halfway through and quit. 356 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: You know, I heard something today about being passionate about 357 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: your passion. That's a that's a classic of what this 358 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 2: Saturn retrograde is about. And of course it's dealing you know, 359 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: it's dealing with the delusions and illusions that we build 360 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: into our lives and never were real to begin with. 361 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: And so we've got to refine the intuition and cultivate 362 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: a realistic approach to dreams and ideals. And of course 363 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: it's uh, you know, compassion is a Pisces thing. But 364 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: we have to balance our empathy with responsibility. When do 365 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: you do I mean, you know this is rescue versus 366 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: being supportive. 367 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: Right, I actually loved that line when I was reading 368 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 3: your outline, because you know, as such, it like, I'm 369 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 3: a highly empathetic person and if I get too far 370 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 3: in just that, like I will get lost in that 371 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: to almost render me incapable of functioning because I'm just 372 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 3: feeling all the feelings. And so it's been something I've 373 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: actually been really working on lately to do exactly what 374 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: you said, balance that with you know, it's not like 375 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: I want to lose that care for people, but I 376 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: also can't take on their stuff as my stuff. So 377 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: it's finding that balance of responsibility. I don't remember if 378 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 3: it was you that taught me this or someone else, 379 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: but they said, I'm to start saying I'm I'm so 380 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: sorry for you, like to specifically start saying that to 381 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: a person. So I'm feeling the feeling of the compassion 382 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: and the empathy for what they're going through, but I'm 383 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: saying it allowed to myself and the universe for you, 384 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: this is not mine, like this is not mine to 385 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: take on. So it's you know, very much like that 386 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: same energy. And I could imagine that if we're going 387 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: through that in Pisces right now during cancer season, there's 388 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: a lot of that, right, So we really do need 389 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: to pull on the discipline, the responsibility. 390 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you got a big challenge for you, 391 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 2: I know. I mean because cancer is built to feel 392 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 2: any moment, I know, and so you get you can 393 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: get lost in other people's dramas for sure. 394 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's the daily and it's and it's painful. 395 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 2: There's no getting around that, right, I mean, especially to 396 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: people that you love or care for sure. So so 397 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: in other words, this is that's the degree we couldn't 398 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: get past. Those are the things that we have got 399 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: to build a little stronger link to our spiritual structures, 400 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: our emotional boundaries, our creative disciplines, our service and compassion, 401 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: our challenges and growth. So to build that, we're going 402 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: to saturns, going to go back to thirteen degrees of paces. 403 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: We've got to learn from past experiences and integrate those lessons. 404 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 2: In other words, just exactly what we were talking about 405 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: earlier is you have to learn who you have to 406 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: integrate the lessons. So we've got to learn from the 407 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: past experiences and that means spiritual and emotional growth. Okay, 408 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: We've got to find a balance between strength and compassion, 409 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: you know, when I did. I did with my children 410 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: and they hated me for it at the time. Doesn't 411 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: mean I didn't have compassion and I had to be 412 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: a strong, discipline, masculine, a father figure. So I mean, 413 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm not trying to, you know, rationalize 414 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: my actions. That's that was the best way I knew 415 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: that I could help them, right, And so we have 416 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: to learn how to be empathetic with people very effectively. 417 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: I mean, if they're trying to dump on you or 418 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: emote on you, then you've got to figure out a 419 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: better way to help them. You know. I love the 420 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 2: science of mind. The greater sin is lifting the burden 421 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: from the one that's supposed to carry it. 422 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 4: You. 423 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: They're not not one of us doesn't have the capability 424 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: to heal our lives, ourselves. That's the point. You're you're 425 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: a god. You can create and you can heal whatever 426 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: you choose, and you don't have to drag the other 427 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: person into it. You got to find that balance. We've 428 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: got to ground our spirituality. So why'd say you have 429 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: to walk the talk. That's what my teacher said, walk 430 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: the talk or show it away. If you can't walk 431 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: the talk, then don't talk it. I like that one, 432 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: you see, So we have to have a practical discipline 433 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: with responsibility, right okay, And I mean you know, this 434 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: is a time for heat and closure. That's what Saturn 435 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: is going to do when it's retrograde. It's going to 436 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: give you an opportunity to re examine the weak links 437 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: in your life, to re examine how you got to 438 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: this point. And that's the gift of Saturn because all 439 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: it's going it's it doesn't deny anything. It's going to 440 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: change to be as stronger you. So when are we 441 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: when when we're going a bit strong, when we're challenged, right, 442 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: when we have to walk to talk, when we have 443 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: to be our highest best selves, put our put our 444 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: best foot forward. That's Saturn. So this is a time 445 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: for healing enclosure. This ain't a time to go back 446 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: and be reevaluating what my mommy and daddy did. Okay, 447 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: let me advance it from that. What my first marriage did, yeah, 448 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: or my second marriage did, or I'm still married to 449 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: the person I divorced twenty years ago. I've had all 450 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: of those. So I mean, you know it's not just mother, father, 451 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: It's all relationships in our life that we're examined, and 452 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: then we have leftover residue from the experience, and we're 453 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: using it as the baton to our self image, to 454 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: our self, talk, to our beliefs in ourselfs, and so 455 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: moving away from past conflicts and finding inner peace. That's 456 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: Saturn retrograde. That's Saturn retrograde. So in other words, this 457 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: is what we're accomplishing when it goes back to its 458 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: farthest point back before it starts going forward again, and 459 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: then when it comes up to twenty degrees, we'll have 460 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: better spiritual disciplines, we'll avoid scapism, will be healthier in 461 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: our practices and commitments, in our creative endeavors. We're going 462 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: to have a different way that we express our compassion 463 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: and understanding, and we're going to be a lot more responsible, 464 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: and we're not going to be sucked in by some 465 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 2: of our own daydreams that you know, are just delusional. 466 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: So you see when you're looking when you're talking retrograde, 467 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: and you look at it from the perspective, going back 468 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: and coming back forward makes a lot more sense. 469 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: It totally does. 470 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: And I know we're running out of time, So let's 471 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: touch on the full moon and Capricorn because you warned 472 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 3: me it might be a doozy. This is actually the 473 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: second full moon in Capricorn. Why is that happening? I 474 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 3: don't understand. 475 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: I don't have enough time left for me to try 476 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 2: to explain that. Oh okay, but at any rate, this 477 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: is it's because how the it's it's the calendar versus 478 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: the lunar cycle and so far. 479 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 3: Oh I see, I see. Okay, So why is this 480 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: going to be so in the. 481 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: Full moon in Capricorn? Well, number one is thirty degrees. 482 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: That means just letting go. So what did I just 483 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: say about it's a letting go period? Yeah, so what's 484 00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: not let go? What's not rearranged for the first two 485 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: weeks of this month of what I'm talking about Saturn retrograde. Well, 486 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: you're going to look right down the gauntlet of it 487 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: at full moon because it's going to bring it in 488 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: full view. It's a Pluto and it's going to conjunct 489 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 2: Moon and it's going to oppose the Sun. So all 490 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 2: your emotional baggage is going to come to the surface 491 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 2: and you're going to have to answer for who you 492 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: think you are or who you want to be. Sun. 493 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: How your creativity and how you use it. Sun. So 494 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 2: that's it could create some pretty intense internal conflict. It 495 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: could be periods of self doubt, identity crisis. Oh you see, 496 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: now you go back to the beginning of what we 497 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 2: were talking about in cancer in the New Moon, it's 498 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: it's your self image. And so there could be relationships, 499 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: power struggles in relationships. Somebody is going to be controlling 500 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: and dominating a lot of deep seated emotional issues going 501 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 2: to come up to the bubble up to the surface. 502 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: That's Pluto. It always brings up the hidden. So whatever 503 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: has been suppressed, Pluto brings it to the surface to 504 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: be dealt with. And we're going to be dealing with 505 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 2: lunar energies Moon of memories of the past and how 506 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: it looks to us today. And then we're also going 507 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: to have the Uranus is going to conjunct Mars and 508 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: squares mercury, so we're going to have impulsiveness. There could 509 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 2: be mistakes made on rash actions and impulsive actions, and 510 00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 2: of course erratic communications are going to be there, misunderstandings 511 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: and relationships, and of course obviously with Uranus Mars you 512 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: can just jump out there real quick and be under 513 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: mentormental overload and stress because you're getting ahead of yourself. 514 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so what do you recommend during this time? 515 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 2: Well, you've got to slow down, think things through for yourself, 516 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 2: get a new definition for for your life and what's 517 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: been going on, and it's going to come up and 518 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 2: you need to process it in the moment. I mean, 519 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 2: you know, let's think about this yet again. If you 520 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: bring up something that I said two weeks ago, now, 521 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: how am I supposed to remember that? What do you 522 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 2: want me to do to defend something I said two 523 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: weeks ago and I forgot it, and now all of 524 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: a sudden you're hanging on to it. And sometimes it 525 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: ain't too week, sometimes it ain't two years. Sometimes it 526 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: ain't twenty years. You see my point. So this is 527 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: why we have to process it. It's our responsibility to process. 528 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 4: Okay, nobody else's okay. 529 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: And that takes us into being responsible, disciplined and having 530 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: the life we choose, and that strengthens the. 531 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 3: WEEKLNG Okay, well, enjoy this new moon energy, relish in 532 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 3: the Venus aspects and then yeah, sounds like a lot 533 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 3: of reevaluating and maybe pausing would be good this month 534 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 3: of July. Yeah, yeah, oh well, Marv, if anyone. 535 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 2: I'm telling everybody, count to twenty and if that don't work, 536 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 2: count to fifty and. 537 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 3: If that don't work, take twenty four hours. 538 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,959 Speaker 2: Hey, twenty four hours, all. 539 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 3: Right, mar If anyone is interested in doing a session 540 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 3: with you, where would they reach you. 541 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 2: At Marvin at astromars dot com and mention the podcast 542 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: for your discount. And you can also reach me on 543 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: email at Marvin at astro Marv and request this outline. 544 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 2: This is a great outline. 545 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was helpful, all right, it's fall and simple. 546 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 3: Well, I will put this in the description of the podcast. 547 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 3: You can just mention in the Velvet Edge Podcast for 548 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 3: a discount with Marv on each session. It's always helpful 549 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 3: to understand your birth chart and how that it's going 550 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 3: to be impacting or why you came here. Basically, that's 551 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 3: basically what that is. So anyway, Marv, thank you for this. 552 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again in August. 553 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: I look forward to it has a great birthday month. 554 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 4: Count thank you. 555 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: Sounds like it's going to be a wild one, all right. 556 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 3: Thank you guys for listening. 557 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Velvet's Edge podcast. With Kelly Henderson, 558 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: where we believe everyone has a little velvet and a 559 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: little edge. Subscribe for more conversations on life, style, beauty 560 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: and relationships. Search Velvet's Edge wherever you get your podcasts.