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Speaker 1: Chris sior writer but okay, not editor. We talk about

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Speaker 1: your tweets. By the way, you are a rage tweeter,

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Speaker 1: Sergio Morris here, former junior middleweight champion to Zone broadcaster, UM,

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Speaker 1: you had a tweet about a week ago and I

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Somebody asked you, quote Riz, now, why did

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Speaker 1: you walk away from the Jermaine Taylor fight when Jermaine

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Speaker 1: was undisputed? Your response, I only had one ten round

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Speaker 1: Tell the people the real story about why you didn't

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Speaker 1: have seventeen pro fights. And most importantly, we're a hundred

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Speaker 1: all right, A lot to get into. UH. This week,

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Speaker 1: we've got some news with Ryan Garcia and Tag Davis

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Speaker 1: Jake Paul is back in action as well. But I

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Speaker 1: want to start with boxing being boxing once again. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this past week, negotiations for an Errol Spence Terrence Crawford

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Speaker 1: Your reaction to a long discussed fight falling apart once again.

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Speaker 1: It's a big one of the biggest fights in boxing.

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Speaker 1: And these guys are so young and and and hungry,

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Speaker 1: Jake Paul. I would spend some time in Puerto Rico

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Speaker 1: with him. Um, now you as we record this, No

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Speaker 1: you haven't, but I just like to point out and

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Speaker 1: you hate when I do this, but I'm gonna do

428
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Speaker 1: it anyway. Um. Some of the Jake Paul critics, including yourself,

429
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Speaker 1: don't look at the receipts your fifth fight. George Marino,

430
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Speaker 1: who had just as many wins as Tyron Woodley zero

431
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Speaker 1: zero wins on his resume. Javonte Davis, who has insulted

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Speaker 1: Jake Paul. In his sixth pro fight, he fought a

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Speaker 1: guy named James Franks who was to eight and one.

434
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Speaker 1: Canelo Alvaret didn't face a guy with a winning record

435
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Speaker 1: until his thirteen professional fight. Well, why is it just

436
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: because they dawn gloves and like act like a real boxer.

437
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: That makes them real boxers. Every champion in the history

438
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Speaker 1: of boxing, if you look down into their first five fights,

439
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: they've fought fighters like that, fought fighters like that. Was

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Speaker 1: Tyrone Woodley better than George Marino? No, I don't even

441
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Speaker 1: know who he was, but I for he's forgettable, But

442
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: I bet you he probably would have went the distance

443
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Speaker 1: with Tyron Woodley. Suddn't Jake Paul that he knocked him out.

444
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: These guys can't fight, man, They can't. They can't box.

445
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: They can fight, they're strong, but they can't box. They

446
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: have no footwork. They look ridiculous once they start getting

447
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 1: into the later rounds of fifth, the sixth round, once

448
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Speaker 1: they start getting hit, once they start getting clipped to

449
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Speaker 1: the body by a real professional boxer, they won't go

450
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: to distance. They'll turn their back and they're coward out.

451
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Speaker 1: That's how these guys that aren't familiar with being a

452
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Speaker 1: professional fighter, that's how they react. You know why give

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Speaker 1: You know why I give Jake Paul. You think I

454
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Speaker 1: give him too much credit and I promote him, But

455
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: I also talk to people that shared the ring with him,

456
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: like Steve Cunningham, two time cruiserweight champion. He went down

457
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: sparred with him last year, he said. Jake pauls Legit said,

458
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Speaker 1: he has real power. He works hard, and he's trying

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Speaker 1: to become a better fighter. In this last camp, Chad

460
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Speaker 1: Dawson was there. Pound champions. I talked to Chad Dawson.

461
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Speaker 1: Chad said, look, he's got some skill, he's got some

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Speaker 1: relieve it. I believe it, man. I mean, look, I

463
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Speaker 1: respect Steve Conny and I respect Chad Dawson. Two champions

464
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Speaker 1: are not gonna bullshit. He's trying. I get it. He's trying.

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Speaker 1: He looks the part. He could throw a one, two three.

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Speaker 1: He can run, he can jog, he can have a camp,

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Speaker 1: he can bring in a professional sparring partners. But once

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Speaker 1: he gets down to the real nitty gritty in front

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Speaker 1: of a boxer with eight or ten ounce gloves under

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Speaker 1: those lights and he gets hit on the chin, he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna respond like a fighter. He can act like

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Speaker 1: he's a fighter, but he's not one because he does

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Speaker 1: not know how to react when the door gets tough.

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Speaker 1: That's a different That's what separates the men from the

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Speaker 1: Jake Paul You know why I like Jake Paul too, though,

476
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: is because he sponsors your show. Problem he does not.

477
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Speaker 1: But he's trying to make these fights like I've seen

478
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Speaker 1: Rockman Junior. Nobody's ever heard of him, right, Jake is

479
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: trying to make these fights when the reality is he

480
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: would make so much more money if he just fought

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Speaker 1: these influencers. Jake Paul against Nate Diaz is huge. Jake

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Speaker 1: Paul against KSI is huge. Jake's trying to gonna make

483
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Speaker 1: some of those fights, but he's also looking at Tommy Fury,

484
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Speaker 1: he was eight no as professional boxer. He's looking at

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Speaker 1: other guys pro box and hedia Is is is the only

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Speaker 1: one I'll be interested in. The other ones actually careless

487
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Speaker 1: would I'm sorry, I like Nate Das, but Jake would

488
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Speaker 1: beat him senseless. Jake's too strong. See that's Nate has hands.

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Speaker 1: Nate has hands, so does with with ten ounce gloves on. No. Look,

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Speaker 1: I I can pretty much guarantee you Nadia's wife's the

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Speaker 1: floor with Jake. You're gonna guarantee me that I'll take

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Speaker 1: every nickel in your pocket that if you think that's

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Speaker 1: the man, he does not beat an idea, I'll be

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Speaker 1: interested in all right, Like the big fight in New

495
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Speaker 1: York this weekend, Visily Loma Chenko is back. The former

496
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Speaker 1: on one thirty d thirty five pounds champion has been

497
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Speaker 1: off for more than a year now dealing with UM

498
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Speaker 1: the struggle in the Ukraine. He was supposed to fight

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Speaker 1: George campbos At the back out of that because of

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Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine. He is fighting Jermaine Ortiz, who

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00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: made his bones just a few months ago when he

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Speaker 1: beat Jamal Herring. UM, the now retired former hundred thirty

503
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Speaker 1: pounds champion. Uh. Look, Loma Checko is a big favorite

504
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Speaker 1: in his fight and he should be. What are you expecting?

505
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: What do you want to see out of Loma Checko

506
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Speaker 1: when his first fight back? UM, you know, I don't

507
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Speaker 1: expect him to be no mas Chenko and come back

508
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Speaker 1: and wipe the floor with a young, hungry, undefeated, strong fighter,

509
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Speaker 1: strong fighter Ortis. I was watching video on him. I

510
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Speaker 1: watch his fight with Herring. He's impressive, and you know

511
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Speaker 1: fighters like that they wait for a moment like this,

512
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Speaker 1: you know, to to take down Uh. A legend pretty much.

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Speaker 1: Loma is what a three division world champion, a gold

514
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Speaker 1: medalist he has, He's gonna going to Hall of Fame

515
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: or Tea's gonna be salivating to beat a fighter like

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Speaker 1: this coming off a one year layoff, or Tease has

517
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Speaker 1: been active. He's there's a third fight in so he's

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't go as far as he's a live dog

519
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Speaker 1: as far as skill wise, but attrition and youth and hunger,

520
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: and when the and and in the later part of

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Speaker 1: the fight, I give him a chance to to to

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Speaker 1: to start touching up Loma make him uncomfortable. So what

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Speaker 1: do I expect out of Loma to get out of

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Speaker 1: this fight with a victory when no injuries, no cuts,

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Speaker 1: and and no bad performances like a knockdown or or

526
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: or or where you look you looked old. Just get

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Speaker 1: out of this one, go to the next one. That's

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Speaker 1: all I wanted of him. Yeah, I think there's going

529
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Speaker 1: to be some ring rust, But if he's anything like

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Speaker 1: the Loma Chenko that we're used to, Jamaine Orti is

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Speaker 1: a good fighter. He looked really sharp against Jamal Harry,

532
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Speaker 1: but Jamal Hary didn't have anywhere near the offense that

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Speaker 1: Lomachenko does. Loma checks going through punches, uh in bunches.

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Speaker 1: So I I want to see him dominate his fight

535
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Speaker 1: in the later rounds and get the stopics because that

536
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: will give him some of his momentum back. Now, Sergio,

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00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: we've talked a lot um, whether it's on jabs, over

538
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Speaker 1: onto zone or uh in previous podcasts about Devin Hany

539
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: against lomon Chenko. I was talking last week to Jamal

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Speaker 1: herring Um about this and the Devin Haney that I

541
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Speaker 1: saw at the way in for the Cambosis fight. That

542
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: wasn't a lightweight. That was a guy who drained himself

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00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: to get back down two five pounds. So like we've

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Speaker 1: spent some time talking about should Devin Haney take the

545
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Speaker 1: Lomachenko fight, But I'll tell you this, if Devin Haney

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Speaker 1: can get down to one in a safe way, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Lomoncheko would definitely take the fight, but I'd

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00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: probably favored Devin Hany. Is that crazy too to think

549
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: that Devon Hanny would be a favorite against loma Chenko? No, no, no,

550
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: it's not because that's um. That's that's that's the right

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00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: style matchup. He's gonna have the size, that youth, the

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00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: length of the jab and lomon j and lomon Chenko

553
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: would well makes some what makes loman Chenko great is

554
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: his footwork. It's the angles and the older you get,

555
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: of course, the legs of the first thing to go,

556
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: and they can go overnight. So Haney, you know, he's

557
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: a master at distance. You know it's hard for fighters

558
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: to break that distance. Camp Boss couldn't do it in

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Speaker 1: twenty four rounds. A lot of fighters can do it

560
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: in twenty four in in in in twelve rounds. So

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00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: loman Chenko is gonna have to break that distance with footwork.

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Speaker 1: He'll be able to have success in the first half

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Speaker 1: of the fight. But the second half of the fight,

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Speaker 1: when things slow down, you can bet Haney's youth, his vigor,

565
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: and that that jab and that confidence, the fact that

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Speaker 1: he has all the bells, he has so much to prove,

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00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: the fact that he wanted this fight for a long time.

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00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: That's when that's when it starts taking over. Already has

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Speaker 1: won this fight for a long time. But let me

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Speaker 1: ask you this. You saw Devin Haney at that way,

571
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: he saw what he looked like. Should he take this

572
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: fight or should he go up to one forty right now?

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00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: Take the fight? I think he still he only should

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Speaker 1: because he's still young enough to wear that the way,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't affect him. He can still you know, even

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00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: even though he did look very dehydrated and then drained.

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00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: You know, he has youth on his side. He can

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00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: bounce back really fast, you know. Draining you're drawing yourself

579
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: law up like that. It only affects the older you are,

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00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: So when you're years old, you're still able to do that,

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Speaker 1: even at twenty five years old, you know, but on

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00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: once you get into your late twenties. Now, man, that's

583
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: very dangerous. Yeah. Look, I think that fight is going

584
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Speaker 1: to happen. Devin Hany wants it, Lomachenko wants the opportunity

585
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: to win all four belts. It is a legit pay

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Speaker 1: per view in Las Vegas or Los Angeles wherever they

587
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Speaker 1: choose to ultimately put. It's great fights what Devin Hany's

588
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: always wants. So I do think he sucks back down

589
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: to one five one more time. I just hope after

590
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: it's over he doesn't regret it. But let's let's let's

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00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: not give Haney is a very responsible fighter that's always

592
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: on weight. He's never he's never no no. Maybe he's

593
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: growing out of it, or maybe it's the fact that

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00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: he had a fly he had a fly fifteen hours,

595
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, for several weeks beforehand. So it doesn't matter, man.

596
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to acclimate to to the climate

597
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: you're in and the places you are, The water, the

598
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: food is different. It. I know it sounds like excuses,

599
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: but when when anyone in boxing can tell you making

600
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: weight it's a science, you know, it's it's not only

601
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: it's not only working out in the gym, it's it's

602
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: every little thing, not only where you are, but what

603
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: you're drinking, what you're eating, and at what times, and

604
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: you know when there's there's time differences makes a big difference.

605
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: Is that what killed you? Um in the Forrest rematch

606
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: from Vegas to my debauchery took a hold of there.

607
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: But I gotta love it. Uh last thing for you.

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Speaker 1: We are gonna be in San Diego this weekend for

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00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: what I think is a sneaky good fight hundred thirty

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Speaker 1: five pounds Jojo Diaz, former world champion UM at one

611
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: thirty williams Apeta, who has become something of a name

612
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: at one thirty five. They clash at lightweight. I love

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Speaker 1: this fight, Sergio, because it's a true kind of crossroads

614
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: fight for Jojo Diaz. He's coming off the loss to

615
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: Devin Haney last year. He really needs a win. Zapeta.

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Speaker 1: He has been a fast rising star, say to win

617
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: over Hector Ta Howard last year, but his last couple

618
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: of fights have been so so so so, his most

619
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: recent one a decision win over Rene Albarado. But one

620
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: way or the other, this is gonna be Rockham socking

621
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Speaker 1: Robot for as long as it last. Both these guys

622
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: throw punches and bunches of both of them have vowed

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00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: that they are going to stand in the middle of

624
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: the ring and trade. So what do you like in

625
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: this fight? Man? Like you said, it's a It's a

626
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: great fight between two south Paws that are completely different,

627
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: not in style but in power. You know that Peter

628
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: has that he raced, so he comes forward. He's very aggressive.

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Speaker 1: He's a volume puncher. Jojo Diaz is also aggressive and

630
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: a volume puncher, likes to mix it up, but he

631
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have the power. But what Jojo does bring to

632
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Speaker 1: the table is timing, I mean, and he has a

633
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: good jab when he uses it. You know, Jojo actually

634
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: was doing really well with his jab with Haney. You know,

635
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: I was watching that fight again and Haney, who has

636
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: one of the best jabs in boxing, wasn't out jabbing

637
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: Jojo in that fight. So that's timing. That's what Jojo

638
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: brings to the table body shots. He's an excellent body puncher. Uh.

639
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: He has a championship experience. Uh coming into this fight

640
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: as a pay to. You know, he's only fought what

641
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: a secondary champion in Alvarado, so he doesn't have that

642
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: championship experience that Jojo has. What did you think fight

643
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: against Olparado? I thought it was a workman like performance.

644
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 1: You know, renw Alvarado is the type of bus all

645
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: that that takes a big takes a big punch, hits

646
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: hard enough to keep you honest about it, and a

647
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: lot of experience. He was active, Uh, in great shape.

648
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: You know, him and his brother worked together. They're hungry.

649
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: They love these opportunities to shine. So it's hard to

650
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: knock dudes out like that. Um. But this is gonna

651
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: be a great example because if if um Jojo can

652
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: win this fight, he's back, He's back in the mix

653
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: in a hot lightweight division. And if the pay to

654
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: can knock out a fighter who has never been knocked out,

655
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: and he could have knocked him out, and Farmer definitely

656
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: couldn't knock him out. Gary Russell, Gary Russell back in

657
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: the day, you know, he was dominating that fight, but

658
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 1: Jojo started too late. Then he started coming on. Uh.

659
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great look for Zipeta and and

660
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: a new name in the lightweight division. Yeah. I think

661
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: the winner of this fight could be positioned for a

662
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: world title shot pretty quickly, because whatever happens in the

663
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: Haney versus Loma Chenko fight, it's more likely than not

664
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: those belts fragment at some point, especially if Hanny wins,

665
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna vacate all those belts. Move up two d

666
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: and thirty five pounds. You got Sakor Stevens under forty pounds.

667
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: You've got Shakoor Stevenson lurking out there moving up to

668
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: one thirty five. Tank Davis is still out there at

669
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: one thirty five. If you're Jojo or Zapeta, you've got

670
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: a great opportunity. What I think this fight comes down

671
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: to Sergio is who is throwing the most punchers in

672
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: the championship rounds, because I think both these guys are

673
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna match each other for volume early on. But who

674
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: has the conditioning over the final three or four rounds

675
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: of this fight, I think that's the guy that's gonna win.

676
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: At Jojo has had some weight issues in the past,

677
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: not at one five necessarily, but he has had some

678
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: some conditioning issues in the past. If if both these

679
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: guys are in great shape, the person the best shape,

680
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have the best chance to win.

681
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what it comes down to. Yes,

682
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: that has something to do with it as well, but

683
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: any fight that has something to do with the stamina

684
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: and and everything, the jab and you know styles. This

685
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: fight is gonna come down if JoJo's face holds up,

686
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: if those cuts, that scar tissue holds up, because if

687
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: that scar gets open early, like it didn't rock him

688
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: off Fighter and other fights, it's it's gonna be a

689
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: bloody mess. And Zapeta is gonna only, you know, get

690
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: stronger and stronger. And even though he's not beating him

691
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: by a lot, you know, Jojo has balls, man. I mean,

692
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: he showed against Tevin Farmer that he was able to

693
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: take that championship from him with the gruesome cut, So

694
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: he's been able to do it before. He can probably

695
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: do it again. But at twenty nine years old, through

696
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: all that scar tissue, if that opens up early in

697
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: that fights, that pay to will find a way to

698
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: to stop him. If if he doesn't stop him, the

699
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: corner will stop, at the referee, the doctor, someone will

700
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: stop it. They're not gonna let Jojo, a veteran who

701
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: has a lot of miles in his tank, go twelve

702
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: rounds with all that blood coming up. So if his

703
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: face holds up, Altos slightly favorite Jojo Diaz in this fight.

704
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great fight, maybe the best action

705
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: fight of the weekend. Sergio Mora, are you planning to

706
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: sign with b LK Prime next? I heard they're gonna

707
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: look for more fighters. Hey, listen, man, I'm only coming

708
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: back for one fighter, and you know his name. He's

709
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: a sponsor of your show. He's a sponsor of your show.

710
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: First of all, there's probably ten fighters you'd come back for.

711
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: You can back for a paycheck, is what you came

712
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: back for. I'm coming back for Jake Paul and if

713
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: Spider Silva backs out, the snake will come in when

714
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: we come back. My conversation with Katie Taylor, all right,

715
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: Katie Taylor is the undisputed hundred and thirty five pound champion.

716
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: On Saturday, she'll return to defend her titles, which takes

717
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: on Karen Carba Hall at Wembley Arena in London. That's

718
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: a fight you can see Saturday worldwide onto Zone and

719
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: Katie joins me on the show. Kay back in the UK,

720
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: back at Wembley where your pro career began, back in

721
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen. I'm wondering, what do you remember about

722
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: your pro debut um. Yeah, I mean it definitely seems

723
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: like a very fast six years, but yeah, I've got

724
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: obviously great memories from that night. I was coming off

725
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: a very disapinteer as an amateur and this is a

726
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: fresh start for me, and I just remember it just

727
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: I just walked into the ring as as a different fighter,

728
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: I thought that night, and yeah, just an amazing moment.

729
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: You only have one debut, and I'm so glad that

730
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: that the day you actually went well and then turn

731
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: around stoppage and and you had the start of an

732
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: amazing journey for me in the ring as a pro.

733
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: That was your first experience at professional prize fighting. Did

734
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: you leave that fight thinking, Okay, I'm now confident I

735
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: can do this. Yeah, I mean I think even before that,

736
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: I had ambitions to bring the sports you into a

737
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: new level, the women's side of things, and um, I

738
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: was in any of your Hand's office a few weeks

739
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: before that talking to him about Turner pro and my my,

740
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: my ambitions, my expectations, and um, here we are a

741
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: few years later where we just headlined mas and Square Garden.

742
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: I don't think in a million years do you think

743
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: that was going to happen. But it's just been an

744
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: amazing journey. If you knew back then in two thousand

745
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: sixteen that your career would go the way it is gone,

746
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: how would you feel about it? Um, I mean yeah,

747
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: I would obviously, UH would be very very satisfied. But

748
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: at the same time, there's still a lot to be

749
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: done as well, I think, and there's been a few

750
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: um performances that that you haven't It's very very rare

751
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: that you come out of the ring thinking your box briality,

752
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: for example, there's obviously improval said that that had to

753
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: have to be made, I think, and I don't think

754
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: people have seen the best yet and that's a very

755
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: exciting prospect for me. So, UM, I know that There's

756
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: still a lot to be done, There's still a lot

757
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: to be shown, and um, I'm just excited about for

758
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: for us to come. Really, you're coming off the biggest

759
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: win of your professional career. Do you believe that people

760
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: have not seen the best of you yet? I don't

761
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: think so. I think I was obviously it could performs

762
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: the last time, but I think that there is more

763
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: to be shown, and um, I am looking forward to

764
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: actually showcasing that in the in the fight citcom. Um,

765
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I am getting better and better each

766
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: each and every time, and um, yeah, I definitely feel

767
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: like they're there. I have been to show my folk potentially. Yeah,

768
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: You're back this weekend against Carbon Hall undefeated. Solid title

769
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: defense for you, though not the rematch you were looking

770
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: forward Toronto, not the high profile fight against someone like

771
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: Chris Cyborg that I know your management team was trying

772
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: to get you into over the last couple of fights

773
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: a couple of months. How are you feeling about this

774
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: particular fight? Um? Yeah, I mean I have you know

775
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: this is going to be a to a fight. Like

776
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: you said, she is a solid phone and she isn't

777
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: a beaten a phone nineteen. No, I think too Argentine,

778
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: and she has everything to gain and nothing to lose.

779
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: So these these opponents are always very, very dangerous, and

780
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: any one of my Man Storry opponents of always rasor

781
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: game against me as well. So I'm expecting the best

782
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: of of my opponent Saturday night, and um, I'm just

783
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: excited that they jump back in there really and and

784
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: the showcase what I can do. And it's been an

785
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: amazing or so far. But I want to end on

786
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: a on a high note, and I want to end

787
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: on it on a great performance. I know You've been

788
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: asked a lot in the last couple of weeks about

789
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: the Amanda Serranto fight, but I'm wondering when, when the

790
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: fight ended with Serranto and the days after, did you

791
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: believe an immediate rematch was going to happen. Um? Yeah,

792
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: I mean I thought we were obviously in talked for

793
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: for an a media rematch, and we were very well

794
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: and prepared to jump right into it an immediate rematch,

795
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: and we had a co park actually see a lot

796
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: for one of the dates. Um, this is a big

797
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: arena in our an eighty thousand people. That would have

798
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: been a huge event. It's the only thing that would

799
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: have topped. I think what happened in mass the square garden. Um,

800
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: But obviously it didn't happen, and we we had to

801
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: jump back game with with my mandatory p on a

802
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: Saturday night and staid. But we were ready and willing

803
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: to jump right back in for an immediate rematch. What's

804
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: your understanding of why it didn't happen? Um, I think

805
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: they just wanted to have another a couple of fights

806
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: basically before jumped back into it into rematch. Um. And yeah,

807
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: so I obviously respect that what we were ready to

808
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: jump by the game, but um, but yeah, it doesn't

809
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: make any different source whether it's whether it's the next

810
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: fighter or the fight after. But I think it is

811
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: because still going to happen next year or sometimes. And

812
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: I still to this day think it is the biggest

813
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: fight out there in Will's box on them and the

814
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: first flight was used, but I can imagine how big

815
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: that the second five would actually be after the first

816
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: one was was was iconic. So yeah, I think that's uh,

817
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: that's obviously a huge, huge MACA fight. Again, you you

818
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: won the fight, and you don't often see the person

819
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: that won the fight showing the most interest in running

820
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: it back again. But it seems like it is important

821
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: to you to have a second fight with the Manda Serranto.

822
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just a bit crazy. I always want

823
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: to I always want the big fights and the and

824
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: the and the toughest chances. And I definitely do believe

825
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: that it's the biggest fight out there. I just want

826
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: to be I want to be involved in these big

827
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: mega fights and um and I think that's well, it's

828
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: it's fights like that that actually secure your legacy as

829
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: a fighter as well, just being involved and and and

830
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: huge mac of fight after macafil and and I just

831
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: want to give to the fans with what you want. Really,

832
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned your legacy. Your legacy is secure.

833
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: You are one of the greatest women's boxers of all time,

834
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: decorated amateur, decorated pro. But you talk a lot, and

835
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: have just talked a lot about bigger fights ahead, bigger

836
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: nights ahead. What do you want out of the rest

837
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: of your career? What what are you looking for over

838
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: these next couple of years. And well, one of the

839
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: things that I would actually love is to have a

840
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: big homecome fight in Ireland. That's uh six years as

841
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: a pro and I still have an actually at back home,

842
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: which is crazy. So I think I'd actually love love

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Speaker 1: that big homecorn fight. And we're talking about Croke Park people,

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Speaker 1: and that would be such a huge events and that

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Speaker 1: that would be a dream for me to actually have

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Speaker 1: a chance to fight there and and to give the

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Speaker 1: RS fans and and and just to support it that

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Speaker 1: they've given me to have my whole career both as

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Speaker 1: a professional boxer and manager boxer. I think that they

850
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Speaker 1: also deserve a big night like that. You know the

851
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Speaker 1: politics of you fighting in Ireland bet than anybody. Um,

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Speaker 1: you talk about it now, are you? Are you more

853
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Speaker 1: confident now that a Croke Park fight can happen next

854
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Speaker 1: year than you have been in years past. Yeah, definitely,

855
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Speaker 1: I think it is definitely gonna happen at some stage.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, even for the immediate we were obviously

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Speaker 1: in talks for an iMedia rematch and we had co

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Speaker 1: Park actually sealed awful one of those days in September sometime,

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Speaker 1: so we were definitely were ready to jump in and fight.

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Speaker 1: And I have a big homecorn cocorn fight co Park,

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Speaker 1: So it is definitely gonna happen some stage, Which is

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Speaker 1: which is fine thinking for me, even thinking about it

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Speaker 1: and having a big fight at home, eighty thousand people

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Speaker 1: and this is really the stuff dreams. The last thing

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you is, you know one point

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Speaker 1: five million viewers for your fight with Amanda Serranto, two

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Speaker 1: million for Claressa Shields and Savannah Marshall over in the UK,

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Speaker 1: you're back headlining at Wembley Arena to close out the year.

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Speaker 1: Women's boxing is putting up numbers. It's it's backing up

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Speaker 1: the talk with actual data, with the fact that people

871
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Speaker 1: are watching women's boxing. What do you think of you

872
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: know where women's boxing is right now? How do you

873
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: feel about it? It's incredible, um um. We're seeing even

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00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: Clarissa against Savana, what an amazing and night that was,

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Speaker 1: and what an amazing white Boaker els shows so much

876
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: hard and grit, and and the same with Alicia and Mikaela.

877
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Speaker 1: Is such a great fight and just great great fights.

878
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking now we're actually seeing the biggest the biggest

879
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Speaker 1: name is possibly boxing could could possibly be female fighters

880
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: and even this year the two fights of Fights of

881
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Speaker 1: the year contenders on himself and Sabrano, the rest Shields

882
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Speaker 1: and Savana Marshall. That alone is is just amazing, even

883
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Speaker 1: even saying that. So women's boxing is is that an

884
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Speaker 1: all time high right now? And and the thing about

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Speaker 1: is is it's only going to get better and better

886
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: with somebody's young girls coming up. What an exciting time

887
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: to be involved in women's boxing. Who is let me

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00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: ask you this, not to ask about the bests in

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Speaker 1: the world, but who is Katie Taylor's favorite women's fighter

890
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Speaker 1: to watch? Um My, my my team are here laughing

891
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Speaker 1: at me. I don't know, I said, probably say, she's

892
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: obviously prilliant to watch. I also love Wrotten Lucy a

893
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Speaker 1: riker from back in the nineties US using an incredible fighter. Um,

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Speaker 1: I love it was also when women had had the

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Speaker 1: opportunity we actually have. I now it's holtly because it

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Speaker 1: also that we're that we're in the position at end

897
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: the day as well. But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just

898
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Speaker 1: incredible that. You know, we talked about this last week

899
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Speaker 1: that the gap, even though there is a gap between

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Speaker 1: men's boxing and women's boxing popularity, it's closing because women's

901
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: boxing is giving fans great fights and the fights that

902
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: they're asking for more often than not. And that's that's

903
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: just a good sign for the future because right the

904
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Speaker 1: depth of women's boxing is growing by the month. It

905
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Speaker 1: seems like with when're getting into the sport. Yeah, absolutely,

906
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, we're seeing the best person is the best

907
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: all the time, and women's boxing in comparisons sometimes the

908
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Speaker 1: demand side of things where we're not actual seeing the

909
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Speaker 1: best flights app on them. People are getting frustrated at times.

910
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Speaker 1: Book for the women's the point of view where we're

911
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: we're seeing, like I said, the chapter grasses chapan eache

912
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Speaker 1: each and every time that's a that's the thing that's

913
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Speaker 1: actually other being the sport. Yeah, fans get frustrated, media

914
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Speaker 1: get frustrated to talking about that never actually happened as well, Katie,

915
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Speaker 1: good luck on Saturday, Karen Carralba Hall your title defense

916
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Speaker 1: at one thirty five back on the Zone over in

917
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Speaker 1: the UK. Always great to catch up Katie, and good

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Speaker 1: luck to you. Thank you so al much for and

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Speaker 1: week on the pay per view in Arizona, Jake Paul

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Speaker 1: against Anderson Silva, the Problem Child against the Spider. The

947
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Speaker 1: odds for this fight right now are pretty close. Jake

948
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Speaker 1: Paul is at minus one nine to win, Anderson Silva

949
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Speaker 1: a plus one fifty two underdog. I like Jake Paul.

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Speaker 1: I think Jake, for all his critics, is becoming a

951
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: pretty good boxer. And even though Anderson Silva has that

952
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Speaker 1: win over Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. I just don't like

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Speaker 1: a forty seven year old Anderson Silva against a twenty

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Speaker 1: five year old Jake Paul. I just think there's too

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Speaker 1: many physical factors in the column of Jake Paul and

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Speaker 1: I think he wins the Spider. Take Jake Paul to

957
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Speaker 1: win at minus one nine. If you want to get

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Speaker 1: a little bit of money out of this. If you

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Speaker 1: want to up your odds, look at Jake Paul by knockout.

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Speaker 1: Jake Paul has shown some fantastic power up throughout his

961
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Speaker 1: boxing career. He stopped Tyron Woodley with a one punch

962
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: knockout in their last fight. Silva again has been a

963
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Speaker 1: durable guy in mm A. Buddy's forty seven years old

964
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Speaker 1: and this is an eight round fight. I don't know

965
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Speaker 1: if this fight ends with one punch in the way

966
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Speaker 1: that Jake has stopped Woodley and Ben askerin and Nate Robinson.

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Speaker 1: It could also end with Jake just wearing down an

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Speaker 1: older Silva. But either way, I think this fight ends

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Speaker 1: with Jake Paul knockout. So take Jake Paul to win

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Speaker 1: at minus one. Take Jake Paul to win by knockout

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Speaker 1: at plus two sixty, make some money. Those are my picks,

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