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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, September twenty first two, twenty one, season seventeen,
Speaker 1: Episode number twenty five. Welcome to the latest edition of
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Speaker 1: the Star, Nick, give me a twenty five. Oh, Junior Tadatasi.
Speaker 1: That is my favorite player of my favorite name of
Speaker 1: all time. He played a running back in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1: How about say that was before my time? Junior titles.
Speaker 1: I mean that that. I just love the name. I
Speaker 1: just love that you're like confidently and I assume correctly
Speaker 1: pronouncing it. Yeah, I think so. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that guy joined the team today, you'd be like, I'm
Speaker 1: calling you Junior two. You make the team. I don't care. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In eighty nine, he mean, I mean he was on
Speaker 1: the team, but I mean that doesn't mean anything. Everybody
Speaker 1: was on the title Tassi. Okay, it kind of rolls
Speaker 1: off the tongue kind I kind of like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he was a good player, but but
Speaker 1: you know, if you only played on the nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: nine Cowboys and like no other team, yeah, and he
Speaker 1: might have played for it. I don't know. Maybe played
Speaker 1: for the Eagles. I don't know, but I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, just because you played on the eighty nine Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I mean you're great NFL player. Was our guy Charlie
Speaker 1: Williams twenty five? He was? He also was forty two.
Speaker 1: I like Charlie. I wish he would have said twenty
Speaker 1: five for Charlie because that's my dude. Like, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen him in a long time. He used to come
Speaker 1: around a lot, cool Valley ranch. I like Charlie. I'll
Speaker 1: see him, but you don't get many opportunities to say
Speaker 1: junior junior title good Points played the Eagles for three years,
Speaker 1: and eighty nine with the Cowboys was his final year
Speaker 1: in four year prot fitting guy. He played for both
Speaker 1: of the teams that are playing this week. There we go,
Speaker 1: look at Nick, that's my dude. There we go, all right,
Speaker 1: into that one. Today we're gonna talk about today. We
Speaker 1: actually are going to uh the Yesterday, the Cowboys gave
Speaker 1: us an opportunity. The media gave us, I mean gave
Speaker 1: the media the opportunity to talk to the coordinator's offense, defense,
Speaker 1: and special teams. There were some things that came out
Speaker 1: of those press conferences that I thought we'd dissect today.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start first with the offense. Kelvin Moore. I
Speaker 1: was looking at some of the numbers through two games,
Speaker 1: and obviously, let's put this in context. It's two games.
Speaker 1: This is not what you are for the season. It's
Speaker 1: just two games. But it does give us a little
Speaker 1: bit of an indication on some things right now. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense is fourth in total offense, there's seventh, and
Speaker 1: rushing offense sixth, and passing offense. Here was a part
Speaker 1: that was interesting to me their fourteenth in points scored.
Speaker 1: Why do you think there's so much lower in the
Speaker 1: amount of points that they're scoring relative to the number
Speaker 1: of yards that they're getting both overall and pass and
Speaker 1: UH and Russian. Well, they sucked out loud in the
Speaker 1: red zone in week one. I think that's the and
Speaker 1: then I'm pointing it. It was my red drink. Oh
Speaker 1: thank you. I wasn't. I was. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on over there, but I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna answer the question. Sorry, Um another one today? Yeah,
Speaker 1: really say that's good. That's good. I like the energy,
Speaker 1: keep going day. They were awful in the red zone
Speaker 1: in Week one and then Week two was a very
Speaker 1: um shortened game. For one thing, the Cowboys only had
Speaker 1: seven possessions. They only made it into the red zone
Speaker 1: three times. Um. So yeah, I think I think that's
Speaker 1: the main culprit if I had to guess how they
Speaker 1: get better. They you know, don't play as good a
Speaker 1: defense as the Bucks and maybe the Chargers. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know last year, if you think about it, you
Speaker 1: know they wanted a couple of games, and then the
Speaker 1: knock was they haven't beaten in any team with a
Speaker 1: winning record on that that stuffs out the window. They've
Speaker 1: played two good football teams, I think, and you know
Speaker 1: they've won one of them. I had a chance to win.
Speaker 1: The other one had a chance to lose this one,
Speaker 1: so I mean even doubt. But I think you know,
Speaker 1: the competition will won't won't be as good and I
Speaker 1: think that they'll they're getting their pieces back too. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're figuring this thing out on offense. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Lyle Collins helps a lot more. Obviously he's better,
Speaker 1: so he'll come in and they'll they'll just be kind
Speaker 1: of a well oiled machine. I think that they'll you know,
Speaker 1: figuring out things in the red zone with Pollard, and
Speaker 1: you know, because think about it, the Pollard touchdown I
Speaker 1: think helped the Zeke touchdown, you know. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just think when you're showing things wide like that, then
Speaker 1: you can run up the middle. So I think that
Speaker 1: they're going to be fine. I think that I saw
Speaker 1: some encouraging things out of the red zone this last week.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Chargers, and I think we all agreed,
Speaker 1: even last week, we agreed that they are a good team.
Speaker 1: I started thinking about a context, and I'm still kind
Speaker 1: of torn where I think they are relative to other
Speaker 1: teams in the league, and specifically even in their own division.
Speaker 1: If I had to put them in order, I think
Speaker 1: they're probably the third best in their own division. I
Speaker 1: would say the Raiders and the Chiefs are probably better
Speaker 1: teams at this point. But I don't know that for sure,
Speaker 1: and Denvers two and oh, we don't know what they're
Speaker 1: going to try out to be. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: that great, but I think obviously they're two and oh.
Speaker 1: Right now, do you do you think when it's all
Speaker 1: said and done that because you gotta go through that division,
Speaker 1: do you think that that's gonna be a really tough
Speaker 1: road for the Cowboys if that's the thing, if they
Speaker 1: end up being the third best team in that division?
Speaker 1: Chargers you mean, yeah, time its Chargers. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna go as far as as Herbert's development takes them,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he he has it all in
Speaker 1: terms of you know, just how good, strong, all that stuff,
Speaker 1: but he makes some some bad decisions in the red
Speaker 1: zone too, and you know he's had I think they've
Speaker 1: had three turnovers in the red zone in their first
Speaker 1: two games that probably you know, that costs them and
Speaker 1: win there could have cost them another one. So, um,
Speaker 1: if he continues to make you know, develop and all
Speaker 1: that he's got all the tools, he'll I think he'll,
Speaker 1: you know, if if he gets a big jump in
Speaker 1: his development, I think that they can probably be the
Speaker 1: second best team in that division. I think for all
Speaker 1: the jokes we make about the Cowboys, I think the
Speaker 1: Chargers are one of the more uniquely snake bitten teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Like it seems they always have a
Speaker 1: good roster, and like they've had years. It was a
Speaker 1: while ago at this point, it was when Rivers was
Speaker 1: still closer to his prime. But they were like best
Speaker 1: in the league in offense and defense and finished with
Speaker 1: a losing record. They were good last year and finished
Speaker 1: seven and nine, and then two years ago, like the
Speaker 1: very last good year of Rivers career, they went twelve
Speaker 1: and four and they upset the Chiefs and looked like
Speaker 1: they were going to make a run. So I guess
Speaker 1: my point is I think they've had a better roster
Speaker 1: than their record implies the vast majority of the last decade,
Speaker 1: probably well, and the Keys, they've had a quarterback for
Speaker 1: long time, which is not what most franchises can say.
Speaker 1: They've got a worse record in one score games over
Speaker 1: the last few years than the Cowboys do, which is
Speaker 1: something to think about. I don't know. I don't that's
Speaker 1: a college football thing for me. I don't care, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I think the Raiders are better
Speaker 1: than the Chargers just because they're too a no right
Speaker 1: now and it doesn't really matter. You just win the
Speaker 1: games in front of you. I think those teams are
Speaker 1: gonna be in front of you. I mean part of them.
Speaker 1: But I guess my point is I'm not concerned about
Speaker 1: the quality of this win in terms of like how
Speaker 1: good are the Chargers. I do know they had their
Speaker 1: offense at close to full health. They didn't have their
Speaker 1: right tackle, but they have a very nice receiving corps
Speaker 1: and one of the better quarterbacks they're going to play
Speaker 1: this year. I feel confident saying that Mahomes is better.
Speaker 1: Who else they have to play this year? They Brady
Speaker 1: Brady was better, But like one of the five, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say that, I'm having a hard time coming up
Speaker 1: with the the ones I think are better than this. One
Speaker 1: of the five best quarterbacks on the schedule they just
Speaker 1: beat Well, that's huge. Ranked it back in you know,
Speaker 1: the summer, I think he was fourth or fifth. Okay,
Speaker 1: Um Matt Ryan, some people view him better just because
Speaker 1: of you know, he's a good quarterback back. They don't
Speaker 1: have a weapons better and he's in a former MVP. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's also a former MVP that's not on a roster
Speaker 1: right now, so that doesn't always be a pointing. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I have the schedule in front of me. I
Speaker 1: don't have to guess at this anymore. I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at it. Uh Mahomes obviously, Brady obviously, Brady obviously. And
Speaker 1: then you can, depending on how you feel, you could
Speaker 1: argue Kyler Murray and Derek Carr. And really I only
Speaker 1: throw better than Derek Carr in my opinion. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying yeah, yeah, yeah, And I only even threw
Speaker 1: car in there because he's on fire right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like going into the season, I would have been like,
Speaker 1: justin Herbert's way better than he's having a good Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ryan Cousins, I'll take Herbert over both of those guys,
Speaker 1: not even hesitating. Yeah yeah, yeah, he's right up there. Again,
Speaker 1: you can a lot of times you can tell the
Speaker 1: quality of the team, but quality of the quarterback. So
Speaker 1: I know this has been discussed probably before. I just
Speaker 1: kind of thought of it. When you're talking about the
Speaker 1: right tackle out, you think Parsons lines up to a
Speaker 1: defensive end. If Bulog is out there bloggings later, you
Speaker 1: think you think that they decide to do that, because
Speaker 1: if if Bilaga is better than Slater, then nobody was
Speaker 1: really going to be getting a lot of pass rush.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I didn't even think about it
Speaker 1: until you just said they were playing without the right tackle,
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, because I mean, he kind
Speaker 1: of worked that guy in the second half. Honestly, Storm
Speaker 1: Norton was what people thought Terrence Steele was going to be.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. I think they would have
Speaker 1: still done it because I think they did it not
Speaker 1: because they wanted to. They did it out of necessity. Yeah, personally,
Speaker 1: So I think they would have still had the same
Speaker 1: need to do it, and they still would have done it.
Speaker 1: It's a great point though, because and that's why, and
Speaker 1: there's there's already a lot of talk about like maybe
Speaker 1: Mike should just play end until until DeMarcus Lawrence comes back,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Michael wants to smoke with Layne Johnson on Monday at
Speaker 1: least not forty times like he got on Sunday. And
Speaker 1: I think and Dan Quinn put out, you know, made
Speaker 1: a good point when he talked about it yesterday that
Speaker 1: it's it's not you know, seventy snaps. You can play
Speaker 1: seventy snaps at linebacker. You can't play seventy snaps at
Speaker 1: defensive end either. The past rushing that going every the
Speaker 1: physical beating that it takes to rush the pastor and
Speaker 1: get up there. Now, I mean, this is gonna sound dumb,
Speaker 1: but I mean, I guess it. On the offensive side,
Speaker 1: it's different, you know, because you're not rushing up the
Speaker 1: field or whatever chasing guys around. So but but basically
Speaker 1: what you're saying is is that he can only play
Speaker 1: a limited amount of snaps or you're gonna play defensive end.
Speaker 1: A linebacker, he'll probably be on the field a lot
Speaker 1: more all the time, all the time. But he he
Speaker 1: said this week, he said, we've moved him for this week.
Speaker 1: He said he's gonna be a really good linebacker for us.
Speaker 1: He didn't sound like he wanted to make this full
Speaker 1: time switch. Yeah, I'm gonna get back to that. I
Speaker 1: want to get to that, and we'll talk about that
Speaker 1: when we get into the defensive side. I did have
Speaker 1: one more question for you guys regarding the offense. Something
Speaker 1: Callum Moore stands to me kind of stuck out. He said,
Speaker 1: in the press conference that stuck out to me. He said,
Speaker 1: they want to aggressively take what the what the defense
Speaker 1: gives them. And I thought it was interesting because it
Speaker 1: wasn't just like you hear all the time, take what
Speaker 1: they give you. He said, we want to aggressively take it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, so what does that really mean?
Speaker 1: But the question I have for you guys is do
Speaker 1: you like this approach better than having a specific identity
Speaker 1: that the team goes into. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: teams you kind of know going in they are a
Speaker 1: running team they're gonna pound you, or they are a
Speaker 1: passing team, they're gonna air it out. And for those teams,
Speaker 1: they do it really, really well, and even though you
Speaker 1: know it's coming, you can't stop it. Do you think
Speaker 1: that's better than just having the type of team where
Speaker 1: you can morph every week and you can try to
Speaker 1: do both. And by the way, you may not be
Speaker 1: as great as those teams who do one thing extremely well,
Speaker 1: but you have two things you can do pretty good.
Speaker 1: Isn't that an identity? Maybe that's an identity that you're like,
Speaker 1: we have studs everywhere and we will do whatever you
Speaker 1: think hurts less and we'll hurt you at it. I
Speaker 1: love it. I mean, I've talked about it a lot
Speaker 1: already this season. But I think that's an identity unto itself,
Speaker 1: is you know, people are all up in arms that
Speaker 1: the running game really wasn't a part of the Week
Speaker 1: one game plan because Tampa is amazing at it, by
Speaker 1: the way, the Falcons through the ball fifty times Week two.
Speaker 1: By the way, like people know the book, the book
Speaker 1: is out, not obviously not on beating Tampa. They're two
Speaker 1: and oh but why are you gonna bother running into
Speaker 1: a brick wall. It's a waste of time. So Cowboys
Speaker 1: come right back and you got to keep up with point.
Speaker 1: By the way, Chargers are famous and not their chargers
Speaker 1: aren't famous. Brandon Staley is famous for playing with a
Speaker 1: light box and so they run for two hundred yards
Speaker 1: as a team. And I think I did love that
Speaker 1: quote from Kellen because it's kind of an oxymoron, right,
Speaker 1: But I think that just means we're gonna take what
Speaker 1: you give us, but we're still going to be creative
Speaker 1: and try to be explosive and make big plays. You know,
Speaker 1: whether that's the goofy swinging gate formation with the three
Speaker 1: offensive linemen or you know, Dak took one deep shot.
Speaker 1: It wound up getting intercepted, so I could argue, maybe
Speaker 1: that wasn't the best idea, but they tried it handing
Speaker 1: off to Cede Lamb. I mean, they made aggressive calls
Speaker 1: within the flow of the game, but it was within
Speaker 1: the context of what is what are the Chargers presenting us? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith Terren Steele split out left like that, Like
Speaker 1: I liked it. I liked it too. Yeah, And then
Speaker 1: like the second down play of it, I liked the
Speaker 1: second two. I was fine with that too, because I
Speaker 1: you know, I mentioned it in the win Week one,
Speaker 1: he did a some of the thing. He did something
Speaker 1: kind of unconventional, and and then he came back later
Speaker 1: in that same tribe and tried to use the same
Speaker 1: kind of unconventional concept but did something different with it,
Speaker 1: and it ended up being a big game for them
Speaker 1: downfield to Ceedee Lamb. This game, he tried to do
Speaker 1: the same thing they did. They took a concept, they
Speaker 1: used it earlier, and then they tried to lure it.
Speaker 1: I liked it too. I just think DA made a
Speaker 1: bad decision there because he said I'm gonna throw it
Speaker 1: way out here and for a four yard loss. He
Speaker 1: threw it out here. CD versus Durwin Jane James in
Speaker 1: the open field. That's probably not a favorable matchup in
Speaker 1: a one on one um but but but I mean,
Speaker 1: the best part is you're gonna play off of that
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see it again, and then you know,
Speaker 1: sooner or later, Tyran Smith's gonna go out for a
Speaker 1: pass and you know, here we go. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: Oh God, I hope. I don't know about that. I
Speaker 1: I don't know this. That's a possession receiver right there.
Speaker 1: Zeke ran like a Texas route on that play, and
Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray is a really good player and just played
Speaker 1: it really well and it it looked to me like
Speaker 1: Dak kind of pumped in the direction of Zeke and
Speaker 1: was like, that's covered. But that's what he won. If
Speaker 1: it hadn't been well covered, it was Zeke had twenty
Speaker 1: yards between the linebacker and the safety, and so maybe
Speaker 1: Dak could have thrown that away instead of throwing it
Speaker 1: the CD. But I like these, you know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen off of that? I think I think you
Speaker 1: can do this. I know you can't in college. Just
Speaker 1: wait for that. I'll probably I'm not giving away any
Speaker 1: game plans here, but you put the tackles out. Why
Speaker 1: look that you can put guards out there, They're gonna
Speaker 1: sneak it tied in like a jar win or something
Speaker 1: on the line, and he will go out there because
Speaker 1: because you just could look at it like center or
Speaker 1: two guards and it's like, well, they're you know, they're
Speaker 1: the lineman. One of those guys can be eligible. Though
Speaker 1: I believe, I know you can do that in college.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can do it in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But you just kind of you'll get used to seeing it.
Speaker 1: You'll used to seeing these guys and it'll be one
Speaker 1: of these guards right up in the middle. It's gonna go.
Speaker 1: And going back to your original point on that, I
Speaker 1: don't know that like under those circumstances, if Zeke's covered
Speaker 1: and that's what you really want it, I don't have
Speaker 1: a heart. I'm not I don't think it is a
Speaker 1: bad decision rather than throwing it away to give your
Speaker 1: guy CD an opportunity to beat a guy in the
Speaker 1: open field. I don't care who he is. I know
Speaker 1: Derwin James is a good safety and he has the
Speaker 1: ability to tackle in the open field. But Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: also can make guys miss. He also can get off
Speaker 1: to break tackle. So for me, I'm like, give it
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty chance that he actually makes a play
Speaker 1: out here in the open field and see what you
Speaker 1: can do. It ended up not working for them, but
Speaker 1: I love the nature of the call. I love what
Speaker 1: they were trying to do there. If you watch last
Speaker 1: night and DeVante Adams is an amazing receiver, but he
Speaker 1: catches a lot of passes within a yard of the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and they trust him to beat his
Speaker 1: man and he does a lot. And yeah, I trust
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb to make a guy miss more often than not.
Speaker 1: But Derwin James is a hell of player, right, and
Speaker 1: it happened sometimes. All right, We're gonna take our first
Speaker 1: break when we come back when talk about the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball, and Nick kind of teed it
Speaker 1: up for us. We will talk about Parsons and what
Speaker 1: they think of Parsons, And my question for you guys
Speaker 1: will be is Parsons the second best defensive end or
Speaker 1: actually say pass rusher, not defensive and second best pass
Speaker 1: rusher on this team. We'll talk about that when we
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Speaker 1: It is the second segment of The break Life from
Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. I just
Speaker 1: saw this tweet. This actually may have come out a
Speaker 1: little earlier, but I just saw that Nick Sirianni, the
Speaker 1: head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, confirmed at Brandon Graham
Speaker 1: they're defensive end His season is over after suffering an
Speaker 1: injury last week. We'll talk about that more tomorrow, but
Speaker 1: that's that's a really, really, really big thing of the Eagles.
Speaker 1: With the Cowboys coming up, that's probably probably their best
Speaker 1: defensive player, if not their best among their best defensive players,
Speaker 1: definitely their best pass rusher. So that'll be huge for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys especially Again, what do they say? Uh, what
Speaker 1: do the kids say? Fletcher Cox has entered the chat?
Speaker 1: Is that what they say? Well, something like that. That's
Speaker 1: always gonna be a challenge, but you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you say he is our best defensive player?
Speaker 1: It's like, well, good point, yeah, good point, good point. Um.
Speaker 1: But I do think that's something to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on as something note with the Cowboys, uh this week again,
Speaker 1: we would assume Terrence Still is going to be the
Speaker 1: starter again this week, So that'll be a little interesting
Speaker 1: to see who they're gonna put out there. He'll face something.
Speaker 1: You gotta well, let's talk about Terrence Still real quick.
Speaker 1: I know we're going back to defense, but but about
Speaker 1: this matchup. I mean, you know, the Cowboys aren't gonna
Speaker 1: get credit for that, but if he does turn out
Speaker 1: to be, you know, a pretty good option here, good
Speaker 1: good back up. You gotta give the Cowboys not only
Speaker 1: Joe Field been offensive line coach for working with him,
Speaker 1: but also last year they stuck with them, and we
Speaker 1: were all like, why why are they doing this? And
Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of options, but they were
Speaker 1: also building it for down the road, like let's just
Speaker 1: keep working with him, working with him, and he looked
Speaker 1: like a guy that was a little bit more polished
Speaker 1: and not overwhelmed by the situation in the game. And
Speaker 1: so you know, I mean, they stuck with him last
Speaker 1: year and I think for at least one game it
Speaker 1: paid off. There's something to be said for them or
Speaker 1: coaches seeing something in a player and saying Okay, this
Speaker 1: is a young guy. We see traits that we can develop,
Speaker 1: and we're going to develop them and then seeing that workout.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work all the time, but in this instance,
Speaker 1: you're right, it may end up being something that works
Speaker 1: out for them. I'm not ready to say it's there yet.
Speaker 1: I am willing to say that last week he certainly
Speaker 1: showed us more than he showed us last week last year,
Speaker 1: which means he's getting better. I think Brandon Knight was
Speaker 1: a better tackle last year, but early I think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think by the end of I know, but
Speaker 1: I mean I think just better. You know, he was
Speaker 1: a better tackle. He came in and did a better job.
Speaker 1: But I think he had more of a ceiling at tackle.
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele had a bigger ceiling. And they're like, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna go with it, go with it, even though
Speaker 1: you know, you got to go two steps back to
Speaker 1: kind of go forward, and we're getting ahead of ourselves
Speaker 1: a little bit. We'll see. I mean, he had, he
Speaker 1: had a nice game. He's gonna have to keep doing
Speaker 1: it though. Yeah, I will say this. After we talked
Speaker 1: about yesterday on the air, I went back and watched
Speaker 1: some of that game on replay. Still can't get the
Speaker 1: all twenty two yard, but I was able to watch
Speaker 1: at least a little bit more of him, and one
Speaker 1: thing I did notice. They did give him a lot
Speaker 1: of opportunities where he was out there by himself. But
Speaker 1: it seemed like a lot of those times where when
Speaker 1: they were getting rid of the ball quick. There were
Speaker 1: a few times when he got beat, but they were
Speaker 1: quick gott they were quick throws, so it didn't end
Speaker 1: up hurting them. And they tended to give him help
Speaker 1: when they wanted more, you know, plays that developed a
Speaker 1: little would needed more time to develop. They tend to
Speaker 1: give him a little more help. But overall, as I
Speaker 1: watched him, there were some plays when I was really
Speaker 1: impressed with him. In the run game, he was there
Speaker 1: was some plays he was like throwing guys around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was playing some go football in the run game.
Speaker 1: So again, he's better than he was last year. And
Speaker 1: that's all you can ask from what players are you
Speaker 1: getting better every week? And I think he is. I
Speaker 1: think there's I just think of it as two lines
Speaker 1: of conversation, and it's weird to think about now because
Speaker 1: it's ancient history. But in that five week stretch before
Speaker 1: Dak got hurt, I was like, y'all are being stubborn
Speaker 1: like Zach Martin might give you the best chance to
Speaker 1: give Dak the best chance to win without these tackles.
Speaker 1: And then once Dak got hurt, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I played the play the young guy who needs to develop,
Speaker 1: who gives a damn like sorry Andy. So once it
Speaker 1: got to that point, I was like, yeah, play him
Speaker 1: and get him all the experience he needs. But there
Speaker 1: was a window where I was like, I'm not convinced
Speaker 1: y'all are doing everything you can to help the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But right now it has paid off because they got
Speaker 1: all of that time to play him. If you know,
Speaker 1: when Lyle does come back, they're probably going to be
Speaker 1: in the best situation that they've been in knock on
Speaker 1: wood but for an off line in a while. When
Speaker 1: you think about Steele as the backup for both sides,
Speaker 1: and he's played a lot of games, Connor McGovern as
Speaker 1: a swing guard who also can play some center for you,
Speaker 1: then he Brandon Knight, a guard who can play some tackle,
Speaker 1: and I'm not even thrown in in secky. I want
Speaker 1: to see kind of what happens with that and Farniak
Speaker 1: and all that, but you've got young experience that has
Speaker 1: played and started in games. That's that's with flexibility, position
Speaker 1: flex That was all through the summer. It was like,
Speaker 1: if Terrence Steele can make a year two leap, then
Speaker 1: it's gonna mean a lot for this offensive line. And
Speaker 1: it's only one game, but it's a hell of an
Speaker 1: encouraging game. It was absolutely all right. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to the defense. Dan Quinn talked to the media yesterday.
Speaker 1: My question I came out of it with is and
Speaker 1: Nick I mentioned this to you. We were looking at
Speaker 1: his stat line, Michael Parsons. He had one sack, he
Speaker 1: had two tackles, he had four quarterback hits. Dave, you
Speaker 1: said you saw it. I didn't see it on my
Speaker 1: stat sheet, but you said you saw somebody credit him
Speaker 1: with eight back pressure. Was pum That all being said,
Speaker 1: like that stat line, if you just saw that stat
Speaker 1: line for any defensive end in the NFL, you would
Speaker 1: say he had a really good week. That being said,
Speaker 1: my question for you is absent uh tank Lawrence? Is
Speaker 1: he the best pass rusher that this team has right now?
Speaker 1: I remember he did that on two days of practice.
Speaker 1: Two days of notice. Yeah, not ready to say that
Speaker 1: until I've had more of a chance to see Randy Gregory. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think I think he's going to be either
Speaker 1: second or third best pass russure and then he doesn't
Speaker 1: have to line up a defensive end to do that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why I was careful, not defensive end,
Speaker 1: of course. I think I think he's a really good
Speaker 1: pass pressure. We saw that. That's one thing that just
Speaker 1: jumped off the tape in college is that these guys
Speaker 1: couldn't block him, and competition is going to get better.
Speaker 1: But they he just has a way of kind of
Speaker 1: you know, knifing through and around people. So and he
Speaker 1: did that and he got better as the game went
Speaker 1: on and figured that out, and the competition will get
Speaker 1: better too. But um, we talk eight pressures, that's what
Speaker 1: they said, we I mean sounds about right, especially a
Speaker 1: lot is d Law. I mean at the end of
Speaker 1: the season forty five pressures. Is was like really good
Speaker 1: forty five season. So I don't know good at man.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they do on on bolt Talk
Speaker 1: Weekly or whatever they call it. Boat. I'm taking week
Speaker 1: and taking talk joke talking bolts talking Bolts. I bet
Speaker 1: they'll bring in with the Bolts. I bet they'll be
Speaker 1: talking about Storm Norton. Sounds good. I bet they'll be
Speaker 1: talking about Storm Norton the way we talk about Chaz
Speaker 1: Green for a while. If I had to get wow,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, he didn't give up seven he
Speaker 1: annihilated him. I know. I mean he didn't give up.
Speaker 1: He didn't give up six sacks. But I mean Micah
Speaker 1: Parsons wrecked the Chargers game plan in the second half.
Speaker 1: I mean Storm, he just you're still thinking of talk
Speaker 1: show names because his name with a storm Oh got it? Sorry? Sorry,
Speaker 1: um storm on the on the Charges, like that's actually
Speaker 1: a great name to fit for the team. He might
Speaker 1: not be there that much longer. One, I mean one
Speaker 1: stand Quinn was his deal. I don't know, you don't
Speaker 1: know anythbody. I think he's like a veteran guy that's
Speaker 1: like just kind of filling in for a hurt guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know who he is. But Mica, once they
Speaker 1: gave up on trying to rush him against Rashawn S later,
Speaker 1: I mean, he just all it wasn't as bad as
Speaker 1: chat screen. That's that's not anyone who different level, but
Speaker 1: he I mean he was in the backfield every other snap,
Speaker 1: it really was, and they definitely got away withholding them
Speaker 1: two or three times. They're gonna be good. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be good if Blagger comes back and slows that down
Speaker 1: because Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and and of course
Speaker 1: Jared Cook like Cowboy fans were tired of seeing that
Speaker 1: guy like Jared Cook likes so everywhere. Yeah, okay, he
Speaker 1: goes to different teams and still teams that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are playing. Yeah, big games, Yeah all right, um uh Parsons, Yeah, Parsons.
Speaker 1: I think we are talking about No, I mean I
Speaker 1: thought I was going back to Okay, yeah, we're back
Speaker 1: to Parsons, but but actually I wanted to move on
Speaker 1: from Parsons. Dallas right now is twenty eight in sacks,
Speaker 1: twenty ninth and pressures the How can they get more
Speaker 1: pressure than what they've gotten to this point, because obviously
Speaker 1: we talked about that stat line for Parsons, but really
Speaker 1: you look across the other guys that are rushing the pass,
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're getting enough pressure. Now we
Speaker 1: know a week one you're playing a quarterback to get
Speaker 1: rid of the ball extremely quickly. Do you think it's
Speaker 1: just who they face to this point or do you
Speaker 1: think it's like this is a problem they got to
Speaker 1: figure out how to get more pressure. I mean it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. Yeah, they I mean these
Speaker 1: have both been matchups where you're gonna be hard pressed.
Speaker 1: Bread he gets rid of the ball super quickly. And
Speaker 1: I mean, justin Herbert, they might have sacked him six
Speaker 1: times if he wasn't such a freak. And I don't,
Speaker 1: like he's not in he's not sneaky athletic like the
Speaker 1: classic euphemism for a white quarterback, like he is athletic.
Speaker 1: He is huge and fast and can get away from pressure.
Speaker 1: And that's what I mean. That's what made MICA's sacks
Speaker 1: so impressive was that he still got to him. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a hard guy to get on the ground.
Speaker 1: Probably not gonna get a lot easier week three, by
Speaker 1: the way, hurts Um And then and then you, I
Speaker 1: mean you don't you didn't have either of your best guys.
Speaker 1: That's maybe it's a homer answer, but I'm just like, well,
Speaker 1: how much do you want him to do without either
Speaker 1: of the big guys that they expected to rush the
Speaker 1: passer this season. You know, I mean, right now, you say,
Speaker 1: who are the two best quarterbacks they faced? I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously they faced two Brady and Herbert. In six weeks,
Speaker 1: that's still going to be the answer. You know, the
Speaker 1: best receivers they faced are Mike Evans and Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: and Godwin and Antonio Brown, and in six weeks, the
Speaker 1: best receivers they're gonna face are probably gonna be those guys,
Speaker 1: and then maybe a Kenny Galladay if he can calm down.
Speaker 1: When I love how Kenny Galladays. I wasn't yelling at
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, yelling at Garrett. I was like, oh, okay, um,
Speaker 1: but I mean I don't think I've ever heard of
Speaker 1: a player come out and say no. I wasn't yelling no,
Speaker 1: not you him at the coach. I was yelling, and
Speaker 1: everybody was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Okay. I
Speaker 1: would yell at Jason Garrett. Yeah. Um. But I mean
Speaker 1: they face some really good play. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying the Eagles don't have town because because Hurts is
Speaker 1: a different kind of beast. I mean, he's he's running back.
Speaker 1: He can be a check and throw, and he can
Speaker 1: throw I'm not saying he's not in a quarterback because
Speaker 1: the eighty yard passed the Daniel Um Deshaun Jackson last year,
Speaker 1: I was like, everybody was like, oh, oh, he's last game,
Speaker 1: didn't he he can sing? I think somebody told I
Speaker 1: think I read somewhere he had like a sixty or
Speaker 1: seventy yard passed this last It was like they say,
Speaker 1: that was probably the only great play they had. But
Speaker 1: he's a lot like da To me, he really is
Speaker 1: this the the you know, the trajectory of his career.
Speaker 1: I think it's very similar. You know you're gonna have
Speaker 1: you're gonna have doubters, but you're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: he just kind of goes in and does well in games.
Speaker 1: Can figure it out, and he'll figure it out. And
Speaker 1: you know, if he figures it out before the coordinators
Speaker 1: figure him out, then you know, I think, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a really good player. It could be
Speaker 1: a problem for this team because I still think they
Speaker 1: face the best receivers and quarterbacks they're gonna face in
Speaker 1: the first month or two. To get back to your
Speaker 1: I guess the question, which is something that I think
Speaker 1: about and I wonder if Dan Quinnell change it. They
Speaker 1: have not blitzed much yet, and as impressive as Micah
Speaker 1: looked as an edge rusher, I'm look, I look at
Speaker 1: that closing speed and i'mlike, this guy send him through
Speaker 1: the a gap and even a guy like Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: he might have the closing speed to get to him.
Speaker 1: And that's that is an element that I want to
Speaker 1: see and it's why I you know, people are talking
Speaker 1: about moving him to end and I'm not about it
Speaker 1: at all, especially in a matchup against better tackles than
Speaker 1: what the Chargers had out there on the right side.
Speaker 1: Not saying he shouldn't do it at all, he absolutely should.
Speaker 1: But that's the fun of a guy like this. He
Speaker 1: should be doing a little bit of everything. And he
Speaker 1: keeps answering the bell, So just keep putting more on
Speaker 1: his plate. If he if he's if he shows that
Speaker 1: he can handle it, why stop. You know, I want
Speaker 1: I want to see, you know, with a guy like Brady,
Speaker 1: you know you're not going to really confuse him, you know,
Speaker 1: but he's seen it all, but he sees it in
Speaker 1: his sleep. But you know, these guys coming up here
Speaker 1: and even Herbert, you know, confuse him a little bit.
Speaker 1: They confused him. If you go back and watch some
Speaker 1: of those, they did a nice job of kind of
Speaker 1: showing Blitz backing off he was. He was kind of
Speaker 1: making the wrong read wrong decision there. So I want
Speaker 1: to put Parsons up the middle on the a gap.
Speaker 1: I want to put him at the end. I want
Speaker 1: to I want I want Hurts looking for him, Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones and Mac Jones and Darnald you know who's coming
Speaker 1: up here. I mean, he's sort of a veteran. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it. Just show Parsons at all spots
Speaker 1: and whatever point they can have one of these dominant
Speaker 1: or both of these dominant. We well, the most dominant
Speaker 1: pass rushers that the Cowboys have a defensive and once
Speaker 1: they get those guys back, and now teams start looking
Speaker 1: for Parsons and he lines up on one side and
Speaker 1: they slide protection to that side, and now you've got
Speaker 1: that frees up a guy on the other side to
Speaker 1: now have a one on one. That's where you really
Speaker 1: start hitting. That's what it meansporunity to call him a
Speaker 1: queen on the chess. Yeah, exactly. People that just want
Speaker 1: to rook. Sorry, Wow, that's good No, that was which
Speaker 1: actually I was about to I was about to call
Speaker 1: him a rook, not in the punnyway. I was like,
Speaker 1: if you just want to move him to end, you're
Speaker 1: just creating a rook. You're just a guy that goes
Speaker 1: straight to the quarterback, which he's good at. But you
Speaker 1: want him to be as three dimensional as possible. Wow.
Speaker 1: I can't get over that. No, but that's but that's
Speaker 1: the point, Like, he's too good and too versatile for
Speaker 1: you to just put him at defensive end, right, you
Speaker 1: really want to put him everywhere, and you want to
Speaker 1: make defenses have to account for the fact that he
Speaker 1: can line up anywhere and they're gonna have to count
Speaker 1: for him and wherever he lines up. That's just one
Speaker 1: more thing they got to prepare for, one more thing
Speaker 1: they got to do. Every time he kind of line
Speaker 1: of scrimmag just figure out where he is and try
Speaker 1: to adjust that. All right, we're gonna take our final break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll talk some about the special teams.
Speaker 1: John Fossil had something to say yesterday about that decision
Speaker 1: to try to go and get that punt. We'll tell
Speaker 1: you what he had to say. And we want to
Speaker 1: get some opinions from you guys. It will tell you
Speaker 1: what Jerry Jones said about it as well. Today awesome
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Speaker 1: segment of the Break Life from SWBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 1: the Star. We are talking about the coordinators they met
Speaker 1: with the media yesterday. We gotta talk about special teams.
Speaker 1: John Fossil said something in his press conference yesterday that
Speaker 1: made me raise my eyebrows, and I'm sure probably did
Speaker 1: for a lot of people out there. When asked about
Speaker 1: the decision to what their decision was as far as
Speaker 1: a situation where the Cowboys went and got called for
Speaker 1: roughing the kicker on a punt, his response was, and
Speaker 1: I'll read it, and this was the quote he says,
Speaker 1: I think Cowboys fans aren't the play it safe type.
Speaker 1: I was going to give them what they wanted. Hope
Speaker 1: they are happy. They're not. They're not. But let's Leo
Speaker 1: on just to be I kind of want to take
Speaker 1: it back first and and explain, like what happened on
Speaker 1: that play? What did he say happen? What was the decision,
Speaker 1: and how did they get to that point of even
Speaker 1: having guys that end up in rolling into the punter.
Speaker 1: I think it goes way back. But before that, this
Speaker 1: guy wants to be involved with everything. Okay, he does not,
Speaker 1: This isn't the third phase of it. He wants to
Speaker 1: be involved. Let's look at him at training camp. He's
Speaker 1: got the referee shirt on, he's got the whistle, he's
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a mike. He's yelling. He wants
Speaker 1: to be aggressive. Let's fake punts and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: He can't just sit there and just and just let
Speaker 1: the game go to him. He's trying to dictate the game.
Speaker 1: And I think Mike McCarthy they give him a little
Speaker 1: too much, too much leeway on it. There's no reason
Speaker 1: to rush the punt right there. Yes, you could block it,
Speaker 1: but the way Dak and them are moving the ball,
Speaker 1: they can move the ball. Don't take the ball out
Speaker 1: of Dack's hands. He's the best player on the team
Speaker 1: right now. So that that was just like Dave said yesterday,
Speaker 1: risk reward, it's not there. Did they did? They kind
Speaker 1: of block him into it maybe, but that's not a
Speaker 1: reviewable play. You know, Dave said all this yesterday, and
Speaker 1: I totally agree that that ref is looking. Does the punter?
Speaker 1: Does the punter get hurt? Does he get hit a
Speaker 1: b does he go to the ground. Yes, Wow, that's
Speaker 1: fifteen yards, no doubt about it. It's all they care about.
Speaker 1: It's the same And if you if a guy comes
Speaker 1: anywhere near a quarterback below the knee there, the same
Speaker 1: flag is gonna fly regardless neck and guess what, you
Speaker 1: can get thrown into the quarterback by his offensive tackle
Speaker 1: and the refs don't care, and they're going to they'll
Speaker 1: block a punt this year. They'll block a punt you think, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: probably haven't done it in years. They won't. I mean
Speaker 1: if they're if they're rushing like this, I mean they
Speaker 1: probably will. They'll block one. But is it? Is it
Speaker 1: gonna be worth it at the end of the day, Like,
Speaker 1: is it? And I'm I'm glad you mentioned that, and
Speaker 1: I brought it up yesterday. Week one, Pittsburgh did block
Speaker 1: upon it was a game changing block. They scored a
Speaker 1: touchdown off the scoop and score helped them upset the Bills.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's offense sucked in that game. They could not move
Speaker 1: the ball. Big Ben looks washed as hell. You know
Speaker 1: who looks great? Kak and the Cowboys offense. You know what,
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the ball at the twenty or twenty five.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Do you remember where CD Fair caught
Speaker 1: it before it got moved back. I want to say
Speaker 1: it was like around the ten or fifteen, but I
Speaker 1: don't know which. It might be wrong. It's a long field.
Speaker 1: I don't care. They had already scored fourteen points. By
Speaker 1: the way it's it's I think at that point they
Speaker 1: were going to be down like two minutes left. They
Speaker 1: had a minute fifty three to play, and they would
Speaker 1: have had two timeouts to work with. So probably you're
Speaker 1: getting you're getting a field, but you're getting points, or
Speaker 1: you're not giving them the ball back one of the two.
Speaker 1: But either way, nothing bad comes from net right, And
Speaker 1: I think I think that was just John Fossil's way
Speaker 1: of kind of being funny about like, well, I thought,
Speaker 1: y'all want us to be aggressive, and I do. I
Speaker 1: want you to be aggressive, but not reckless. And I
Speaker 1: think that was reckless. Well, let me ask you this
Speaker 1: because I think it even goes back to last year.
Speaker 1: There was some decisions that were made and a lot
Speaker 1: of decisions. Baking a punt on your own twenty in
Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving game that you're still in on fourth and
Speaker 1: ten not even that's reckless, right going for you know
Speaker 1: what we haven't mentioned one fricking time was when they
Speaker 1: went for it on fourth down in the first half.
Speaker 1: What I'm looking at that right now, ye turnover on
Speaker 1: fourth and five on the other side of the field,
Speaker 1: that's aggressive. Doing it on your own twenty is reckless. Well.
Speaker 1: Also also if you're gonna go for it, See, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think that the special teams and this team.
Speaker 1: I don't think special teams has to be aggressive at all.
Speaker 1: You do not have to be aggressive. You don't really
Speaker 1: have to run a lot of fake punts unless you
Speaker 1: just absolutely see something that will work, go for it.
Speaker 1: But the Chris Jones passed to C. J. Goodwin on
Speaker 1: fourth and five that they threw it down and he
Speaker 1: dropped it. While your punter is throwing to a cornerback
Speaker 1: who can't get on the field as a cornerback, why
Speaker 1: don't we just let Dak throw it to Amari? Different
Speaker 1: coverage probably, but I'll take my chances now that fourth
Speaker 1: and five, I hated that because he ran a fourteen
Speaker 1: yard when the guy was off of them. Get to
Speaker 1: the sticks seven yards stop. That's pitching catch all day.
Speaker 1: They ran a fourteen yard route and it went low.
Speaker 1: That didn't make sense to me. But either way, I
Speaker 1: just don't think this is a team that needs to
Speaker 1: be aggressive because if you want to really go for
Speaker 1: it on fourth down, get your pro Bowl quarterback throwing
Speaker 1: to your Pro Bowl receiver with pro Bowl blockers in front,
Speaker 1: not you know who's the punter anger throwing it to
Speaker 1: Goodwin with you know, Drill Cox blocking up front. I'm
Speaker 1: not all the way I agree with you for the
Speaker 1: most part, but I do. I kind of like knowing
Speaker 1: that that's in their bag of tricks, and we know
Speaker 1: for a fact that teams are going to change the
Speaker 1: way they play the Cowboys because of Fossil's reputation. I
Speaker 1: think that gives you something and they'll steal a possession
Speaker 1: or maybe even score points because of that. At some point, punters,
Speaker 1: punters want to play for him because because their net
Speaker 1: average is going to be outstanding, because everyone's worried about
Speaker 1: a fake, so they just put it up. I mean,
Speaker 1: the fake against Pittsburgh last year was incredible, and that's
Speaker 1: that was fun and I like knowing that that has
Speaker 1: the potential to happen on any given Sunday. But I
Speaker 1: just this, I don't think this was the time for
Speaker 1: that call. Yeah, I agree with you, Dave, when it
Speaker 1: comes to the whole nature of it being you know,
Speaker 1: reckless versus something that that's just aggressive. I like aggressive
Speaker 1: mindset because I do think there will create you'll create
Speaker 1: opportunities for yourself and if nothing else that, you know,
Speaker 1: you give a team that much more that they have
Speaker 1: to prepare for on a given week, and you only
Speaker 1: got so much time in the week. So if you
Speaker 1: give them a little extra that they got to deal with,
Speaker 1: what else are they neglecting to spend time on in
Speaker 1: order to make sure they spend time on that? So
Speaker 1: I do like that. Yeah, I just think there are
Speaker 1: times when the timing just not right. It opens up
Speaker 1: another discussion but but to me, fifteen, your appenalties that
Speaker 1: are automatic first downs need to be reviewed in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and a play like that needs to be reviewed because
Speaker 1: that is a turnover really and you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it was probably wouldn't have changed, but it's such
Speaker 1: a bang bang play that if a guy gets blocked
Speaker 1: into you know, and you could kind of block him
Speaker 1: into the guy, and if that happens, they need they
Speaker 1: need to review that. I don't know if they want to,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying I have no faith that they
Speaker 1: would have overturned it anything. I don't think so either
Speaker 1: in that case, but I do think that there's some
Speaker 1: times where it kind of gets a little muddy in
Speaker 1: there like that and then yeah, so I mean, and
Speaker 1: that's that's a turnover. That's what makes it so risky
Speaker 1: is again the Cowboys didn't technically do anything wrong, but
Speaker 1: the refs don't care. They saw the punter fly up
Speaker 1: in the air and the ground and protecting him. You know,
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot worse, you know, where the foot
Speaker 1: doesn't come down all the way, it just kind of
Speaker 1: hits a player like in a back not not he
Speaker 1: didn't even go to the ground. It's just his foot
Speaker 1: can't come down and they call that as a fifteen
Speaker 1: yard penalty. Another thing that was interesting to me on
Speaker 1: this topic. Fossil said that it was his call. He
Speaker 1: makes a decision when he wants to try those kinds
Speaker 1: of things. My question for you guys is should it
Speaker 1: be is this when you're the head coach and you
Speaker 1: know you've got a special teams coordinator that tends to
Speaker 1: be aggressive and can do it a lot of different
Speaker 1: points in a game, is it a better situation for
Speaker 1: the coach to be the one either making those calls
Speaker 1: or making sure he has to check with him before
Speaker 1: making those calls if he's having If the head coach
Speaker 1: responsible for managing the entire game and you're trying to
Speaker 1: play complimentary football, I love the idea that the coordinator
Speaker 1: makes the call, the head coach should have a final
Speaker 1: say over whether it should happen. I mean, it's Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy's job to manage the ebbs and flows at the
Speaker 1: end at the end of the day, So I don't
Speaker 1: expect Mike McCarthy to say, I like this, look, this
Speaker 1: is where this is a good spot for this, Like
Speaker 1: that's John fossil's job to know the ins and outs
Speaker 1: of what their coverage looks like and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But he should click in and be like, hey, Mike,
Speaker 1: this is what we're thinking. What do you think? And
Speaker 1: Mike's like yes or no if he's making that call,
Speaker 1: and the head coach is just as surprised as the
Speaker 1: rest of us about what happened. No, I don't like
Speaker 1: that at all. Did you get that impression, because that's
Speaker 1: the impression I got from the way he was talking,
Speaker 1: was like, I just make the call. It's almost like
Speaker 1: you call in an offensive player or a defensive play
Speaker 1: from the offense or defensive coordinator, and you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: check with the which on every call. And it makes
Speaker 1: seem like he just makes this call by himself without
Speaker 1: really and I don't Again, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: the truth. That's just the way the impression I got.
Speaker 1: The head coach gets on there for everything and says, hey,
Speaker 1: let's yeah. I mean, it all happens in his ear,
Speaker 1: so I would remember. But the head coach can get
Speaker 1: in there and say, hey, let's let's back off here,
Speaker 1: let's let's get a safe return, you know, let's let's
Speaker 1: be smart here, but you know you're also thinking too, like,
Speaker 1: this is the difference between maybe going to get a
Speaker 1: touchdown in a field goal. You know, because you get
Speaker 1: the ball to your fifteen yard line, you're probably gonna
Speaker 1: get and arranged for a field goal. You get a
Speaker 1: punt block there, and even if you just recover it
Speaker 1: right there. Now you're thinking, let's go get a touchdown.
Speaker 1: The problem is you got a penalty. Is should have
Speaker 1: been a six points swing, three points off the board
Speaker 1: for you, three points for them, but they missed the
Speaker 1: field goal. Yeah, so because of the Fossil's great defensive block.
Speaker 1: You know, here I got another issue with Fossil too,
Speaker 1: and somebody pointed there another thing, another thing. Okay, this
Speaker 1: aggressive guy wants to be aggressive. Do you know how
Speaker 1: many guys rushed the kicker for the Buccaneers game winning
Speaker 1: field goal? Uh? Six? Six out of the eleven. The
Speaker 1: other five were kind of they pulled back at the
Speaker 1: last second. Jalen Smith's back there. Obviously obviously the Bucks
Speaker 1: are gonna run a fake there with two seconds to go,
Speaker 1: so they could, you know, instead of winning by three,
Speaker 1: they want to win. What I mean, why aren't we
Speaker 1: sending eleven. Why aren't we sending eleven? And if we
Speaker 1: rough the kick, we rough the kicker. That's one I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I thought we were super aggressive here trying
Speaker 1: to block of kick and win the game. That is,
Speaker 1: if if there's a scenario where murdering the kicker is okay,
Speaker 1: that's that go for. What's the worst is gonna happen? Right, Well,
Speaker 1: he misses and then you get another fifteen and all that.
Speaker 1: But if you, like you said, then let's have a shot.
Speaker 1: You don't have a kicker at this point. Your kicker's gone.
Speaker 1: We took care of that. Everyone has that backup heath
Speaker 1: like a backup. It's right. I wonder who the backup
Speaker 1: kicker for the Cowboys, well, because it would be probably anger.
Speaker 1: But then you have a holder. Cedric Wilson. He does
Speaker 1: everything else, parsons thing interesting. Probably throw him out there,
Speaker 1: let him do everything interesting. I don't see why not
Speaker 1: he hasn't done. I'm about don't think they found anything yet.
Speaker 1: He can't do, so keep giving him. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I don't know. Possible. All right,
Speaker 1: let's got a phone call. We got a call from
Speaker 1: Matt in Jersey, Matt, what up, what's going on? Break? Hey? Yeah,
Speaker 1: good good had a great victory Monday. Um, you really
Speaker 1: got on a vossil topic. I was gonna say because
Speaker 1: I am a fan and it's not what I want
Speaker 1: to see. I mean, kind of cute like aggressive call
Speaker 1: gives them, I like your point topics, gives other teams
Speaker 1: something to look at down in the year. But but
Speaker 1: are these coaches a little bit surprised in the way
Speaker 1: this defense is playing from last year? They're not. I
Speaker 1: don't know what they saw on camp, but what I'm
Speaker 1: seeing he's in the next in the in these first
Speaker 1: two weeks is a really really kind of a solid defense.
Speaker 1: You know, three and out right there, we got a
Speaker 1: couple three and outs, we got an interception earlier, we
Speaker 1: got another late interception. I'm just saying, why would you
Speaker 1: even attempt when the offense was rolling? I just can
Speaker 1: you tell me to score at that particular time of
Speaker 1: the of the game? Was it fourteen three? It was
Speaker 1: fourteen eleven exactly, We're getting the ball back to take
Speaker 1: more time off the clock. Out of a To be honest,
Speaker 1: Herbert is going to take over the control of the league. Um,
Speaker 1: so honestly, we're taking the ball out of a really
Speaker 1: good pastor's hand and putting it into our good pastor's hand,
Speaker 1: and to call that play right there is dan Quinn
Speaker 1: a little upset that his defense got a three and
Speaker 1: out and then it has to come right back on
Speaker 1: the field. All right, thanks for probably good question. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you're not going to tell us that anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it's not like, oh, all right,
Speaker 1: let's go do it again. Guys, let's go get back
Speaker 1: out there. We just did our job. We'll have to
Speaker 1: do it again. Well, let me say they did. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this question, though, and I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think nothing that he said suggests that he had
Speaker 1: this much thought was put into it. But let's assume
Speaker 1: for a second. Could it have been a situation where
Speaker 1: they trust the defense enough to say, if something this
Speaker 1: is worth the risk, because if something does go bad,
Speaker 1: we've seen this defense can stiffen up, especially they can
Speaker 1: stiffen up when it comes to not allowing a touchdown.
Speaker 1: So the risk is worth the possible reward. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's a six point swing because they roughed him into
Speaker 1: field goal range. I mean, you gotta expected and McCarthy.
Speaker 1: If he thinks his kicker could make a sixty yard
Speaker 1: kick in the middle of the Tampa game, then he
Speaker 1: probably thinks that the Chargers guy's gonna make a forty
Speaker 1: five yard or you know, you have to assume that
Speaker 1: stiffening up is I mean, yeah, once the penalty is assessed,
Speaker 1: they're on the Dallas thirty nine. Theyde five yards to
Speaker 1: be in make and I guess, but that would be
Speaker 1: the calculation is wrong calculation. No, hold on, let me
Speaker 1: tell you the calculation. The calculation is worst case scenario,
Speaker 1: our defense will hold him from getting a touchdown. So
Speaker 1: the risk here is that we give them three points.
Speaker 1: The reward would be we could possibly a touchdowns. You
Speaker 1: said earlier, you get a block. Now you're in position
Speaker 1: where you can actually get a touchdown. You don't have
Speaker 1: to just get a field goal. So that's where I
Speaker 1: think the calculation can come. And by the way, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying this is what happened, because nothing that John
Speaker 1: Fossil said suggests that he did that kind of calculation
Speaker 1: in his head. I'm just saying, would that have been
Speaker 1: a calculation and made all of us feel better about
Speaker 1: the decision. If that's the way they thought about it.
Speaker 1: I just wanna maybe I'm giving Dakota too much credit.
Speaker 1: Screw a field goal minute fifty three with two time outs.
Speaker 1: You can get an enzone getting the end zone easy.
Speaker 1: So no, And then I thought the caller he didn't
Speaker 1: directly say this, but he brought up a point that
Speaker 1: I think is worth remembering as well. The Chargers were
Speaker 1: getting the ball after halftime, so you're risking and low
Speaker 1: and behold, that's exactly what happened. You're like, if we
Speaker 1: mess this up, we're not touching the ball again. And
Speaker 1: then they get the ball at the start of the
Speaker 1: third quarter. I just I don't think there's a way
Speaker 1: to swing it as the right thing to do. And
Speaker 1: Chargers never led in the game, right, I don't think
Speaker 1: they know they did not. I think they got They
Speaker 1: got ahead on the scoreboard for a second when they scored,
Speaker 1: and then they took it off the board. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: they took the lead a couple of times for twenty seconds,
Speaker 1: and then the ref said no. But no, they never
Speaker 1: never officially had the lead. All right, let's get a
Speaker 1: call from Devin in Pennsylvania. Devin, what up? We lost? Devin?
Speaker 1: All right? Um, you know, actually, I think that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a rap for us. We were gonna get a
Speaker 1: couple of calls, but I think that's a rap. We
Speaker 1: will be back on tomorrow. We're gonna do some We're
Speaker 1: gonna score car start getting you guys ready for Cowboys
Speaker 1: versus Eagles. We'll talk tomorrow about Philadelphia offense versus Dallas defense.
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