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Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line,

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Speaker 1: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles,

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Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.

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Speaker 3: What's Up, Cowboys Nation?

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Speaker 4: Welcome into Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line.

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Speaker 4: Here in the SWBC studio, I'm Nicole Hutchinson alongside Hiisha Worson,

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Speaker 4: Jess Navarrees.

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Speaker 3: Ladies, how y'all doing stopping Happy Tuesday?

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean? What do you know what

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Speaker 5: I need?

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Speaker 3: I don't want to know what?

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Speaker 5: Wake up? Oh yeah, look at Chrispy and he knew

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Speaker 5: you're on it.

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Speaker 3: Chris, It's right.

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Speaker 6: It's nap time. Yes, I guess this napwak.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I went to a bachelorette this weekend. Shout out to

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Speaker 7: my best friend. She's getting merved.

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Speaker 5: That's dope.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I love huh wish I y'all at naptho?

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Speaker 3: Did y'all? I did take a nap.

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Speaker 8: Because I'm over thirty.

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Speaker 9: You couldn't hang can everybody take a nap or was

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Speaker 9: it just you? We all took a nap.

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Speaker 3: We ain't taken on naps, yea, because this is not

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Speaker 3: football start, it's football starting.

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Speaker 4: Let's go all right. We got a chance to hear

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Speaker 4: from Brian Schottenheimer last weekend.

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Speaker 3: Of course it was rookie mini camp.

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Speaker 4: Not a lot of practicing going on just because of

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Speaker 4: the weather on Friday, but we did get a chance

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Speaker 4: to see the guys up close and personal on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: But I want to start with the new Shoddy culture. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's it's a little different just in practice, Like the.

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Speaker 3: Vibe was high.

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Speaker 4: You saw Shoddy going up to different players pretty much

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Speaker 4: all of them giving them handshakes.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It just felt I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know, y'all, it feels like it's trending in the direction

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Speaker 4: that of course Jerry, Steve and all those guys have

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Speaker 4: been talking about that they wanted. So from what y'all

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Speaker 4: heard from the press conference, what stood out to you

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Speaker 4: about this new Shoddy culture here in Dallas?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Ok, Hi, I meanven not so bad.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So what I really liked about what Shoddy said is

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Speaker 9: the more overall, the more he talks, the more Boden

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Speaker 9: I'm becoming to him being this head coach. He's so

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Speaker 9: well spoken and just how real he is and genuine

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Speaker 9: and authentic when he's talking. And I liked his three

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Speaker 9: c's getting the guys comfortable, caught up and connected.

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Speaker 5: I love that.

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Speaker 9: And there was just a really big emphasis on the connection.

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Speaker 9: You even hear that echoing through this rookie class as well.

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Speaker 9: Is they're building on relationships. And that's something that shot

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Speaker 9: Even said when becoming the head coach, was it's all

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Speaker 9: about relationship building to him. I remember in Shady's introduction

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Speaker 9: talking about building those connections in the relationships and Dad goes, hell, yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's definitely something that's I think Shoddy has already instilled.

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Speaker 9: And what I loved the most was John Matoda's question

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Speaker 9: about not changing and kind of like, hey, you were

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Speaker 9: already here before now as a head coach, kind of

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Speaker 9: what's the flip?

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Speaker 5: Is there a flip?

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Speaker 9: And Shoddy said, I promised myself I wouldn't change. I've

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Speaker 9: seen people that have done that, And of course he

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Speaker 9: was respectful and said, I'm not naming names, but I

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Speaker 9: hold true to that, I really think he's going to

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Speaker 9: be a successful head coach. As far as getting a

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Speaker 9: nice culture that is actually connected together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of things stood out in the press conference.

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Speaker 7: You mentioned the three c's that stood out, Nicole, you

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Speaker 7: mentioned you mentioned him being very present on the field

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Speaker 7: doing drills and things like that, and that was something

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Speaker 7: he talked about in his pressor is that getting to

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Speaker 3: I think people are.

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Speaker 7: Very encouraged by his approach thus far, and I think

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Speaker 7: he's winning people over because he's so detailed. You learn

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Speaker 7: something every single time he speaks. But he's also very authentic.

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Speaker 7: And when you talk about when you look, I heard

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Speaker 7: I was like, okay, maturity, maturity, And I think that

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Speaker 7: is something that we have seen even in your interviews

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Speaker 3: You guys speaking to these rookies.

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Speaker 7: Coming in, as so many of them exemplify a level

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Speaker 7: a professional already. And I, you know, I think this

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Speaker 7: install is going to go smoother because of that. But

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Speaker 7: the maturity part of it stood out to me because

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Speaker 7: I think they are looking for guys to kind of

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Speaker 7: to kind of reset the locker room, so for the

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Speaker 7: guys you've lost and things like that. So I had

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Speaker 7: to temper myself. I told the girls before we came on.

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Speaker 7: I said, listen, I'm starting get that that tango.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm starting to it makes

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Speaker 3: it the cool. Yeah, I'm starting to.

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Speaker 7: But but when you start looking at the roster defensively,

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Speaker 7: the coaches and things like that, they're.

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Speaker 3: Not that far. And I'm a drinking the red con too.

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Speaker 3: That's more a great girly. Did you ever have the invisible?

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Speaker 3: You ever have the clear one?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 3: Either have the mystery one? There used to be they

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm showing my true colors.

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Speaker 5: We'll take it.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, but no, no, no, no, but I leave you alone.

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Speaker 7: But I think that the gentleman they put it brought in,

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Speaker 7: especially like the first three picks, this is them trying

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Speaker 7: to shift the locker room to feel like what Shoddy

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Speaker 7: some guys like that, but now you can kind of

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Speaker 7: ang gonna lie.

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Speaker 9: I also think, you know, in terms of generational I

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Speaker 9: think Shoddy is more I'm not calling anyone old. Don't

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Speaker 9: don't get all mad at me, like we're millennials over here,

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Speaker 9: But I think this is more of a millennial led team.

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Speaker 9: And that's just like a very different kind of leader.

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Speaker 9: And you know, the millennials are known for having their

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Speaker 9: way Shoddy is leading and getting these leaders, it's like

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Speaker 9: build your time up here to become a leader.

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Speaker 5: I want you to walk in and already be one.

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Speaker 9: More So, by example, I feel like he's not calling

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Speaker 9: you doing? And you're going to prove yourself as a leader.

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Speaker 9: But the way he's hand picking them, they're all that way.

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Speaker 9: They're all taking initiative. They're all going to do their

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Speaker 9: homework without being asked to do their homework. And so

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Speaker 9: I think when you're talking Nicole, to go back to

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Speaker 9: your initial question about what a shoddy culture is. It's initiative.

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Speaker 9: It's leadership, and it's not waiting around for your opportunity.

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Speaker 9: It's understanding what's in front of you.

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Speaker 4: And it's a grind work ethic mentality here as well.

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Speaker 3: I loved what he.

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Speaker 4: Said about just there's so many guys with different stories. Right,

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Speaker 4: you have a savone rebel who had to battle injury

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Speaker 3: Then you have a guy like Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Neville who had to battle a lot of health things

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Speaker 4: as well. So there's so many different guys that, like

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Speaker 4: I said, have stories, but it's made them who there

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Speaker 4: are who they are. And he said, we need guys

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Speaker 4: like that because those are the ones who push us,

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Speaker 4: you know, to be greater.

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Speaker 3: They said.

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Speaker 4: He said they pushed him as well, So I thought that.

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Speaker 3: Was unique as well.

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Speaker 7: And they gonna push some of these players on this

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Speaker 7: roster alright, hello, and that's another.

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Speaker 3: Huh you skipping.

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Speaker 5: We want to go.

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Speaker 3: We we about to do it?

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Speaker 9: Do it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean, uh yeah, I think they're gonna push some

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Speaker 7: you look at a revel, I know that Patrick Walker

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Speaker 7: of Dallas Cowboys reported that he was cleared to break

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Speaker 3: At this point. First of all, it is insane.

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Speaker 8: To me how far acls have come.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not going to go off on a.

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Speaker 7: Ram page or anything, but it is crazy to me

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Speaker 7: how quickly these guys can get back from these injuries.

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Speaker 7: But I do think there are some gentlemen in that

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Speaker 7: that are understated as far as how much COVID derailed a

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Speaker 7: carry that with him. And I also know ebra Fluci

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Speaker 7: system wants corners that tackle.

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Speaker 8: So if you ain't willing to do that, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: My guy was talking about setting the interview. He was

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Speaker 4: trying to sneak it all reps at practice, y'all.

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Speaker 9: He got you're well, But I love that for his

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Speaker 9: drive like that shows you he wants.

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Speaker 3: Stop him someone go just doing it.

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Speaker 7: But that reminds me of who That reminds me of

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Speaker 7: another guy that's battle with injury, that is that we're.

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Speaker 3: Hoping can come back and be healthy.

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Speaker 7: To Mario on Overshaw, we saw his worth ethic at

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Speaker 7: this point of this, like in the off seasons, looking

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Speaker 7: at him on the field, pushing itself, trying to get

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Speaker 3: Up when they wouldn't let him go out there more

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Speaker 7: That's the type of energy I think that this coaching

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Speaker 7: staff is looking forward to.

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Speaker 9: To answer your question about the who I need. That

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Speaker 9: entire tight end room got me like we we kind

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Speaker 9: of talked, oh yeah, we got there. We go there,

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Speaker 9: and we talked about this last week a little bit

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Speaker 9: was last week, well we talked about it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, time, time is meshing together.

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Speaker 9: We understand Jake Ferguson was going through the injuries and

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Speaker 9: all of that, so I expect a good bounce back

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Speaker 9: from Jake, But the rest of that entire room, when

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Speaker 9: talking about Nicole coming in here who. His first answer

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Speaker 9: been through every kind of medical adversity if you look

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Speaker 9: That tells me he knows how to persevere. That tight

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Speaker 3: They really want to run the ball.

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Speaker 9: you don't really see until OTA's anyways, but I don't

445
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Speaker 9: I think maybe training camp, Yes, I think OTA's you're

446
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Speaker 9: going to see a little shuffle and I don't know

447
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Speaker 9: But to answer your question, Deuce Fawn, I think overall,

448
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Speaker 9: no matter who it is, whether it's Film OFFA or

449
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Speaker 9: Jaden Blue, you, if you're Deuce, you're in year three,

450
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Speaker 9: you have not really had opportunity. But when you have,

451
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Speaker 9: it's been underwhelming. And I don't think that's to his

452
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Speaker 9: own fault all of it, but I do think there's

453
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Speaker 9: a lot of disadvantages that the Deuce has going into this,

454
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Speaker 9: which is, yes, the tape piece put on film that

455
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Speaker 9: hasn't been great with his time here, but also will

456
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Speaker 9: this new offense be Deuce friendly? And I think that's

457
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Speaker 9: kind of my question for a lot of these guys

458
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Speaker 9: and this new chapter coming in this new shoddy era,

459
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Speaker 9: is are these shoddy guys that Shody can still use?

460
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Speaker 5: I don't know, but I.

461
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Speaker 9: Think do so for all just really needs to show out,

462
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Speaker 9: And even then I'm not sure if it'll be enough

463
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Speaker 9: with the talent ahead of him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I believe that this running back room

465
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Speaker 7: really hinges on Javonte Williams and what they see from him.

466
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Speaker 7: I think whether he comes out and looks the looks

467
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Speaker 7: the part H is gonna tell me who's gonna be

468
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Speaker 7: the starter, Who's not going to be the starter, and

469
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Speaker 7: like just said, you know, like you know, want know

470
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Speaker 7: the OTAs. I will say about the scheme though, and

471
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Speaker 7: looking at Clayton Adams and how he does things. Obviously,

472
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Speaker 7: James Connor got the majority of the reps in with

473
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Speaker 7: the Cardinals, but what he likes to do on the

474
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Speaker 7: receiving end I think does play into a guy like

475
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Speaker 7: Jayden Blue's ability and what he can do on the

476
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Speaker 7: receiving end, also having that actual breakaway speed. Phil MafA

477
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Speaker 7: obviously is a little bit more of like a power guy.

478
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Speaker 7: He's pretty steady in past pro as well, so that's

479
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Speaker 7: a plus you get from him. I guess the question

480
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Speaker 7: would be Miles Sanders is how he I think weird

481
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Speaker 7: enough outside of Javonte Williams. I think the veterans and

482
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Speaker 7: like Miles Sanders and those, I think they are kind

483
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Speaker 7: of the gentlemen induced are kind of the gentlemen that

484
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Speaker 7: are in this weird place. I think this offense is

485
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Speaker 7: trying to take an up chicken speed and explosive plays,

486
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Speaker 7: because you had very little of those last year, and

487
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Speaker 7: so if a guy can generate explosive plays, I think that's.

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Speaker 9: More so what the going to be looking for and

489
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Speaker 9: also brings a question about Hunter Lipkey though where does

490
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Speaker 9: he fit in in.

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Speaker 5: All of this?

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Speaker 3: First of all, don't raise Mobel interesting.

493
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Speaker 4: Because he kind of falls into that tight end though,

494
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Speaker 4: because that's how they've been using him, so he kind

495
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Speaker 4: of has that a little bit more value to him.

496
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Speaker 4: But I was going back to Miles Sanders, him and

497
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Speaker 4: Deuce kind of do things similar, So yeah, it does

498
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Speaker 4: raise kind of red flags for Deuce. But then you

499
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Speaker 4: have guys like Phil Maffa who does the same thing

500
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Speaker 4: as Javonte Williams, right, and then Jaden Blue. I think

501
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Speaker 4: he's kind of in a league of his own because

502
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Speaker 4: he's got the speed he can be in.

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Speaker 3: He could be in every.

504
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Speaker 4: Down back if needed. He just didn't get the opportunities

505
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Speaker 4: at Texas because of that whole running back room situation.

506
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Speaker 4: But no, I think that room will be probably I

507
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Speaker 4: don't know, do you think it's going to be like

508
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Speaker 4: the most what's the word I'm looking for?

509
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Speaker 3: Most competitive? I guess most competitive.

510
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Speaker 9: It should be if you want to center your offense

511
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Speaker 9: around the run game, it should be.

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Speaker 3: Aside a wide receiver.

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Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be maybe the most competitive room,

514
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Speaker 7: not gonna have a lot of rooms to make a

515
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Speaker 7: lot of room to make mistakes, so be hurt in

516
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Speaker 7: that room.

517
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Speaker 3: But do you ladies feel like as of.

518
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Speaker 7: Right now, the running back room got better than it

519
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Speaker 7: was last year because last year it was Rico and

520
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 7: were stressed out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So how do you feel.

522
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Speaker 7: Do you feel right now with Jayden Blue, Phil MafA,

523
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Speaker 7: Miles Sanders, and Javonte Williams that you feel a little

524
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Speaker 7: bit more confident about this running back room?

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Speaker 5: I do.

526
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Speaker 4: I think it also will depend my bad I think

527
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Speaker 4: it will also depend on the offensive line too and

528
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Speaker 4: how they perform. But looking at what Shody wants, he

529
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Speaker 4: wants a running back who can create and create on

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Speaker 4: his own.

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Speaker 3: You have that in Jaden Blue.

532
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Speaker 4: You just obviously need a little bit more tape on him,

533
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Speaker 4: but you do have that potential in him. You have

534
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Speaker 4: that in a Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders. I think

535
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Speaker 4: it's just strange because they all necessarily didn't get the

536
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Speaker 4: playing time in twenty twenty four that you would have

537
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Speaker 4: liked to see. But they're kind of banking on potential

538
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Speaker 4: right now, so I think they have the potential for sure.

539
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Speaker 9: They also think it got better when you stop going

540
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Speaker 9: running back by committee and you had your solid back.

541
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Speaker 9: So I think as long as they don't do that,

542
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Speaker 9: and they decide early in training camp, because all year

543
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Speaker 9: we were screaming should have been Recoed, should have been recod,

544
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Speaker 9: should have been Rico since training camp. So I think

545
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Speaker 9: as long as you have that set plan and you

546
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Speaker 9: can allow whoever it is to grow, is that running

547
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Speaker 9: back one, get that continuity with your offensive line, with

548
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Speaker 9: your quarterback, with everybody around. Yeah, I think if you're

549
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Speaker 9: in that position, you put any kind of any running

550
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Speaker 9: back with any style in a good position to be

551
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Speaker 9: successful early on.

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Speaker 8: You don't think that they're gonna do it off of matchup, because.

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Speaker 3: I'm they could. That's what the That's what some of

554
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Speaker 3: the better teams like.

555
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Speaker 7: When I think about the Lions, like, Yeah, they don't

556
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Speaker 7: just hit you with David Montgomery right away. If they

557
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Speaker 7: see that should if they see you can't attack on it,

558
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Speaker 7: they gonna hit. They gonna hit Jamier Gibbs in the

559
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Speaker 7: flats over and over and over again. Do we want

560
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Speaker 7: them to establish like a two back set that we

561
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Speaker 7: are sure about and maybe one comes out and starts

562
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Speaker 7: depending on the matchup and the other one finishes depending

563
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Speaker 7: on the matchup. Oh, their linebackers are terrible in coverage, Jayden,

564
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Speaker 7: We're gonna use you heavily this week.

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Speaker 3: Are we looking for them to be?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

567
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Speaker 7: Like maybe they established one two guys that are the

568
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Speaker 7: guys with the sprinkled turpin.

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Speaker 3: Because we can't forget about that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then and then it's like, all right, the

571
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Speaker 7: other gentlemen, you know, they get in where they fit in.

572
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Speaker 7: But we have these two guys that are interchangeable depending

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Speaker 7: on what this matchup calls for.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're looking for?

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Speaker 4: That's maybe what they probably are thinking about doing. That's

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Speaker 4: why they got so many.

577
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Speaker 9: Running backs like Jaden Blue and film Offa, which are

578
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Speaker 9: pretty much two opposite kind of backs. That's what it

579
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Speaker 9: would indicate to me, the vision, and I think that's

580
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Speaker 9: the end goal. I think it's just gonna take a

581
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Speaker 9: little time to establish that is this season goes on.

582
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's move to the wide receiver room. Talk guys,

583
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Speaker 3: wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: WHI y'all think?

585
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Speaker 3: Who will holden?

586
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Speaker 6: It's fun? Yeah, he's fun.

587
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Speaker 3: Who will holden?

588
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Speaker 4: Put one?

589
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Speaker 3: He feel a little slide.

590
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: Joshua Kelly as well out of Texas Tech. But I

591
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Speaker 4: want to start with Tree Holden.

592
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think this team owes it to Obviously,

593
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Speaker 3: they gave.

594
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Speaker 7: Up a fourth for Mingo, so they're going to give

595
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Speaker 7: him the opportunity to show what he can do with.

596
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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott at quarterback.

597
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Speaker 7: So I don't know if that is going to be

598
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Speaker 7: Lord Have mercy. I'm looking at two lines of wide receivers.

599
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Speaker 7: I had to go up to the depth chart, and

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Speaker 7: I'm gitting on three.

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Speaker 3: I said, Muffins, that's so, I said, there's a list.

602
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Speaker 7: Yeah, But when I think about the core guys, I

603
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Speaker 7: think it's Ceedee Lamb, Jayalen Tober, Jonathan.

604
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Speaker 3: Mingo a little bit more.

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Speaker 7: It's in flinoy and and at this point I think

606
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Speaker 7: Trashawn Holden has an opportunity to I do think Jayalen

607
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Speaker 7: Tobert is gonna end up being your three.

608
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Speaker 9: I do.

609
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Speaker 3: I understand.

610
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Speaker 5: I know it sucks.

611
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Speaker 7: I do think he's gonna have He's gonna be solid,

612
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Speaker 7: He's gonna have the opportunity.

613
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Speaker 3: But that's what I was gonna ask y'all before the

614
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Speaker 3: next segment.

615
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Speaker 7: At the end of the next segment, is this coaching

616
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Speaker 7: staff going to take the best guy or are they

617
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Speaker 7: going because we are used to we saw lat Rico,

618
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Speaker 7: There's multiple times we've seen this guy better than that guy.

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Speaker 7: Y'all seen this this.

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Speaker 9: I want to know what the timeframe will be for

621
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Speaker 9: this coaching staff to your point to say, all right,

622
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Speaker 9: you're the guy, because how long it seemed dragged out? Yes,

623
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Speaker 9: every time you had this kind of competition, it just

624
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 9: seemed dragged out, like who's your guy?

625
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Speaker 5: You don't know?

626
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Speaker 9: Oh, midway through the season you still don't know, Oh,

627
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Speaker 9: running back by committee? What is the grace period for

628
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Speaker 9: these kind of competitions with this new era. That's what

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Speaker 9: I'm curious to see you start seeing it in training camp.

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Speaker 5: You know how how.

631
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Speaker 9: Many less preseason snaps do some of these guys get

632
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Speaker 9: because they know that that's your guy. Like, that's kind

633
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Speaker 9: of what I want to keep an eye on because

634
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Speaker 9: we're so used to having to wait around to know

635
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Speaker 9: these things to where it's almost too late and it's

636
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Speaker 9: been an obvious and.

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00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 7: Been too late, but it's been too late lot of

638
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Speaker 7: the time stof then honest, Yahlin, Brian Schottenheimer, what's the cutoff?

639
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Speaker 9: I think training camp you respectfully by training camp, look

640
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 9: at Brandon Aubrey. That was such an obvious You are

641
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Speaker 9: the starting kicker. There was no question about it. That

642
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 9: was the only position I can think of that was immediate,

643
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 9: And yes it was needed. You needed a kicker, yes,

644
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 9: but it should be that easy because you should see

645
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Speaker 9: the difference and you do in these other position groups.

646
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Speaker 9: I'm just go back to the running back room last year.

647
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Speaker 9: You saw it was Rico, you knew it was Rico,

648
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Speaker 9: and then all the all of everything else got thrown

649
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Speaker 9: in the mix was Zeke And you know, I just

650
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Speaker 9: I think there shouldn't be as much.

651
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Speaker 6: Of a grace period.

652
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Speaker 9: So talking about even Jalen Tolbert, you're saying he could

653
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Speaker 9: be the three, I.

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Speaker 7: Think he's gonna be solid, Like I don't know if

655
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Speaker 7: he has here's the struggles to get off of press.

656
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Speaker 3: He's not a speedy guy.

657
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Speaker 7: I think him being a number two is not ideal.

658
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Speaker 7: And it depends on if they still go shopping.

659
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Speaker 4: And it depends on if this development program that they

660
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Speaker 4: have designed for each singular player that Shoty was talking

661
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Speaker 4: about is actually working too, because.

662
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Speaker 5: Yep, you just never know.

663
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Speaker 9: And you have to remember Jalen Cropper, He's had phenomenal

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Speaker 9: camps back to back. He's been a standout guy who

665
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Speaker 9: barely lost that competition by a hair. So if you're

666
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Speaker 9: a guy like Jalen Cropper whose name gets forgotten about,

667
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Speaker 9: you're a Jonathan Mingo who's coming in here not really proven.

668
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Speaker 9: You're trying to bump Jalen Tolbert out of that space

669
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Speaker 9: because at.

670
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Speaker 5: This point, is it his to lose? Is that his

671
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Speaker 5: position to lose? Is it even his right now? Do

672
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Speaker 5: you know that?

673
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think we know that.

674
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Speaker 7: But I just think at wide receiver too, I think

675
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Speaker 7: I've seen personally, I've seen enough to know that that's

676
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 7: not gonna be it. But Tooshan Holden, he coming for that.

677
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Speaker 7: I think he meant what he said, and he said

678
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Speaker 7: what he meant. And when you look at Tobart and

679
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 7: his skill set, it is similar. I do think he's

680
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 7: a little bit sharper getting off of press and in

681
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 7: his releases, we're gonna see, uh what what you think?

682
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Speaker 4: It's an edge too about him in his play on

683
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: the field, on and off the field specifically that could

684
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Speaker 4: compliment Ceedee Lamb in that room.

685
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Speaker 7: And that's something that that's actually something that's Hobart had

686
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 7: in him coming in, and but it's like it lost

687
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 7: its flair his first year. And that's why we're talking

688
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 7: about Tobert in this way. That first year you don't

689
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 7: have that time in this league and to have no production.

690
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 7: Really that first year I think really kicked him behind

691
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 7: a bit. But I will say with Junior Adams coming

692
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Speaker 7: in as the wide receiver coach, bebe we talk about

693
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Speaker 7: all the time, new training staff, new sponsors, new people

694
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Speaker 7: who care about you, and to Shoan Holden really has

695
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 7: a relationship with Junior Adams.

696
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Speaker 3: I think he's going to bring out the best in him.

697
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: We'll see.

698
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Speaker 9: You also go back to the three c's connection and

699
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 9: you're talking about Nicole. That connection could be there those

700
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Speaker 9: two dogs that you need that could come a long

701
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 9: way with this shoddy era too. We're talking about what

702
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 9: the shoddy era is. It could be, Hey, you might

703
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 9: need some more developing, but I like the connection you're

704
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 9: bringing with the wide Receiver room. We just won't know

705
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 9: until time comes. But man, that interview was fun to watch.

706
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 9: I was hyphos like, oh for heads, all right?

707
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: He pumped me up.

708
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Speaker 5: You need that, you need that.

709
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Speaker 4: Let's move on to th tid end room. Ladies don't

710
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Speaker 4: get me who is on notice?

711
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Speaker 5: Everybody except.

712
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: Well, all right, who's unnotice anyway?

713
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 9: Luke schoon Maker is just the first, and I think

714
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 9: the obvious one. I think John Stevens Junior gets you know,

715
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 9: the past because of the injury, and he's somebody that

716
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 9: I have high expectations to come back and have a

717
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 9: great showing because I know last year he was really

718
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 9: down on himself with the performance he gave pre injury.

719
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 9: So talking about having that dog in him, I need

720
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 9: that dog to come out and I need to be

721
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Speaker 9: like a pit bull like I need to see that

722
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Speaker 9: day one when he's.

723
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Speaker 5: Clear to play again.

724
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Speaker 9: But Luke schoon Maker, man, I mean when you see

725
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 9: these draft, these new rookie draft class guys coming in

726
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 9: and you see the hunger and what's the word I'm

727
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 9: looking for, the drive to want that job. I just

728
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 9: feel like Luke needs to have that same competitive edge

729
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Speaker 9: to keep his.

730
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Speaker 8: YO and he has to stay healthy through camp.

731
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Speaker 7: Yes, that's going to be a huge upside for him

732
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 7: because that's what has put him behind the eight ball

733
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 7: the last couple of years is that he's been injured

734
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 7: in camp. I do have some questions the tight end

735
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 7: room to me, is also contingent on how they view

736
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Speaker 7: Hunter Lifkey. We talked, like you mentioned earlier, we talked

737
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Speaker 7: about last year. I remember him even telling us in

738
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 7: the locker room. We're telling me specifically in the locker room,

739
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 7: that he has taken tight end type reps now his again,

740
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Speaker 7: I think this offense is trying to take an uptick

741
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Speaker 7: in speed and get into the second level and explosive

742
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 7: plays Hunter Lifkey obviously he has gotten the blocking experience

743
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 7: and understanding, you know, being an extension off the offensive line,

744
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 7: but he has receiver esque qualities but.

745
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 8: Has good size to do some tight end things.

746
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 7: Do they view him in a full back capacity or

747
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 7: are they considering having him do more tight end things,

748
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 7: because I think he's built at this point. If I'm shoddy,

749
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 7: he might have. He might have built more trust at

750
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Speaker 7: this point.

751
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: Than even a school a Luke schoolmaker.

752
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 7: Has, especially as a blocker with Breven span Ford. Obviously,

753
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 7: he was one of the higher pay udfas last year

754
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 7: he was brought in force blocking. He wasn't as clean

755
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 7: as I thought he would be last year. Maybe he

756
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 7: makes an uptick, But I think when you talk about

757
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 7: your guy Tyler Neville. I think he was specifically bought

758
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 7: here for blocking and the toughness he displays in blocking.

759
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 7: Blocking sixty four to two hundred and forty eight pounds,

760
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 7: he can struggle on the edge with some of those

761
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 7: speedy edge rushers. But that's something I think he can

762
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 7: get help with. He's been brought in for blocking as well.

763
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 7: And then you get into and then you get into

764
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Speaker 7: what is this gentleman's name.

765
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna mess it up. I got it, I

766
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: got it, I got it. Fair Weather.

767
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 7: Yes, you get into fair Weather, the tight end out

768
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 7: of where's he?

769
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Speaker 3: Where's he from? Oh yeah, yeah, Auburn, out of Auburn.

770
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 7: There's some excitement there with him because of how he's

771
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 7: kind of a bulldozer in the open field.

772
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: He'll dip his shoulder and go through you.

773
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 7: The blocking as well, it's not always sure, but it

774
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 7: is something he is willing to do.

775
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 3: That and hear me out.

776
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 4: Will this offensive line need that extra help because last.

777
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: Year they consistently needed extra help with tight ends.

778
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 7: So and that's a fantastic point because there's a lot

779
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 7: of stuff. You were running eleven, you will running You're

780
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 7: running eleven personnel A crap Tom because you had to

781
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 7: help out your tackles. But if you don't have to

782
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 7: help out your tackles as much, because I do think

783
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 7: that Terrence still is a gentleman who is going to

784
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 7: see improvements.

785
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 3: In this specific scheme.

786
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 7: If you can cut out having to have that security

787
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 7: all the time over there and you can get another

788
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 7: tight end now and receiving space, I'm picking the best

789
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 7: one that can do that.

790
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 9: I think you see if this draft what you got,

791
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 9: Tayler Booker comes to front to be what he's supposed

792
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 9: to be, and you know you have a conducive and

793
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 9: a great fitting offensive line that is doing what they

794
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 9: were here to do. And I'm not this Tyler Smith

795
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 9: is excluded from this. You shouldn't need the security blanket from.

796
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: Your tight ends, not as often anyway.

797
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 5: It depends on.

798
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 9: What you're calling obviously, but I think every play that

799
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 9: was a lot and that could even help a Luke

800
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 9: schoon Maker where you're not getting your body be every

801
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,040
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802
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 9: past bro or just protection general.

803
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta see improvements from the tight end room.

804
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 7: I mean it took away from obviously you have to

805
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 7: use them for blocking, so that's not something they can control,

806
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 7: but it took away from the different sets you could use,

807
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 7: the personnels you could use, and your quarterback needs to

808
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,040
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809
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: And Lord have mercy.

810
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 7: Jake Ferguson needs some help, and it's long overdue for

811
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,640
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812
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,880
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Speaker 4: anybody so?

886
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: Chamar took me in the film that I watched from him.

887
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 7: He does give you if the Marino overshow is not

888
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 7: ready to go, m he gives you that kind of

889
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 7: crazy here on fire. Let me play free, let me

890
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 7: go tackle, type come downhill, want to work in the

891
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 7: box type vibe. It's like type vib makes a lot

892
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 7: of plays behind a line of scrimmage.

893
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

894
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 7: Maybe he is able to work hisself, and so I

895
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 7: know he's gonna be a special teams guy, but maybe

896
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 7: he's able to work himself. And to be in in

897
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 7: the you know, in the running for that spot and

898
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 7: to be able to do some overshown things with his absence.

899
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 7: Jack Sanbourne is a gentleman that they you know, brought in.

900
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna he's gonna start. I think hereman Mayor'

901
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 7: still gonna be maybe your starters. And I just was

902
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 7: acting Beemer about Kenneth Murray because I'm not sure about

903
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 7: his speed and it sounds like, uh, it sounds like

904
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 7: Beamer isn't as well.

905
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: But he's confident in his coaching staff.

906
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 7: Now, da Mont Clark is the guy, and I know,

907
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 7: Jes you want to talk to Himdimont Clark, finally get

908
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 7: in some other veterans in this room, get him some

909
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 7: other youngins in this room. How is he gonna fit

910
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 7: if he can, you know, make the roster this year

911
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 7: and ton and continue to grow, because I think he

912
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 7: was kind of stifled last year with this new staff,

913
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 7: that old the staff, previous staff coming in.

914
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 9: I think if anybody needed a culture change, it was

915
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 9: DeMont Clark. I don't know though, if because of his

916
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 9: stifling last year, if that put him a little too

917
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 9: far behind to where now his spots in Jeopardy and

918
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 9: I hate that, but I do think if anybody, there's

919
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 9: one person I can think of that will benefit the

920
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 9: most from brand new staff, brand new minds, fresh.

921
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 5: Eyes, it's going to be Demon.

922
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 9: It's just up to him at this point what he

923
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 9: does with that opportunity, how he wants to show out.

924
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 5: And I saw him.

925
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 9: Let's see it the Arlington Renegade's first home game. Him

926
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 9: and a bunch of the guys went out there to

927
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 9: go support some of their old teammates and whatnot. Talk

928
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 9: to him briefly, and he seemed excited about the changes

929
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 9: as well. So all sounded positive, all sounded good. But

930
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 9: to be honest, it's really hard when you have this

931
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 9: room now with you're talking about leaders and people that

932
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 9: look you're we're sitting here talking.

933
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: Just overall.

934
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 9: You're looking at this list about guy like Jack Sanborn.

935
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 9: You're talking about guys that have already proven those dogs

936
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 9: in them. I want to see that from Demo, and

937
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 9: I just don't know if if he has the level

938
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 9: of dog that some of these other guys will, especially

939
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 9: like Demo coming back from injury, like once he comes back,

940
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 9: and that shifts things again.

941
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: Real fast, since we only have two minutes left, sad

942
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 4: cornerback room, Oh Lord Savone, Rebel, Bruce Harmon, Elijah Clark,

943
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: Mike Smith's childress out of Kentucky.

944
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 3: Honestly, I would hm hmm.

945
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 7: For me, it would be I think with Revel and

946
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 7: his how he's progressing, I know it's gonna take a

947
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 7: little bit of time before he is like one. We

948
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 7: probably won't see him his best self until you know,

949
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 7: several several months in the season. But I will say,

950
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 7: Kaylin Carson, I need you to You'll have to come

951
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 7: on with it. You don't have to come on with

952
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 7: it because.

953
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 8: And I'm talking based off of this scheme and what.

954
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 3: Eba Flus likes.

955
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 7: You're gonna have to come up and tackle. You're gonna

956
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 7: be able to You're gonna have to be able to

957
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 7: press do. I think they're gonna get a lot of

958
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 7: help from their past rush this.

959
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: Year that I think is improved. Bam bam, Yes. Yes, but.

960
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, because like Ebra Flu's system is not gonna

961
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 7: be flashy and changing into a whole bunch of disguises.

962
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 7: He he wants you to be better than the guy

963
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 7: you lined up in front of him, So.

964
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you better come on with it.

965
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 7: Can somebody please ask them what is Israel mukuamu in

966
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 7: this system?

967
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: No?

968
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: Really, no, I'm serio. I'm not joking.

969
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 7: I'm not joking like when we get the chance, because

970
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 7: that's gonna give us information.

971
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 3: Because if they're looking at him as a boundary.

972
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 7: Corner as he was drafted ass or a nickel corner whatever,

973
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 7: then that changes the conversation and then Kaylen, you really

974
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 7: better come all with it.

975
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 9: I really feel like Kaitlin though, and I'm not trying

976
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 9: to make excuse. He was injury dealing with a shoulder

977
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 9: injury and it was lingering, like I will say, it

978
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 9: threw him off, and even I feel like mentally from

979
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 9: conversations him and I had, I feel like it became

980
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 9: more of a mental thing from being afraid of like

981
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 9: further injuring the shoulder. So I think you see a

982
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 9: different version of Kayln Carson than you saw last year.

983
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 9: I think you see a healthy Kayling Carson, which is important,

984
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 9: but he has to mentally get that dog out. Like

985
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 9: we're talking about who let the dogs out? Kayln Carson

986
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 9: needs to let the dog out.

987
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: Ye Land needs some hope? Who who Rombland needs some help?

988
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 3: I mean, then your safety's gotta play.

989
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 6: Anything but bland.

990
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 5: But I need some help.

991
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 6: I do think Donovan and Micro nobody can be bland.

992
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 7: And I'm a Mica and they gonna They're gonna make

993
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 7: things easier for your young secondary.

994
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: And it's coming out. We're gonna talk. We're gonna talk

995
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: about it. I know I want to talk about it.

996
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 6: They're gonna wait till next week.

997
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 4: Can't wait for that one. All right, It's been great

998
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 4: fris and Wars and join ours.

999
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: Nicole had to said, molle back here next Tuesday. What Tuesday?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Tuesday. It's a rapper. Oh my god? What you

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