Speaker 1: Scal Come rob and froll.
Speaker 2: Scal Come.
Speaker 1: Rob and froll.
Speaker 3: Scam Goddess, West Popping Congregation, it's your girl, Lacy mostly
Speaker 3: Akay scam God is back with another installment of the
Speaker 3: comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practice it.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. One thing
Speaker 3: is for sure is will never make fun of their victims.
Speaker 3: But we there's a high chance we'll laugh at them.
Speaker 3: And congregation, you already know. I'm what Yes, Excited, thrills, elated, enlivened,
Speaker 3: Yes by today's guests. Today's guest is a comedian, actor,
Speaker 3: and filmmaker Edie Modica Okay in that mode and It's
Speaker 3: best known for her breakout role in Jury Duty, which
Speaker 3: landed her on the Hollywood Reporters list of Supporting Actors
Speaker 3: who Stole the scene.
Speaker 1: This is kind of crime.
Speaker 3: We like over him, Yes, and her debut comedy special
Speaker 3: produced by Emmy and Peabody winning production house Irony Point,
Speaker 3: which is called I'm Just Like You and It Sucks.
Speaker 3: It's out and wide release on YouTube September seventeen, So
Speaker 3: get into that I'm Just Like You and It Sucks.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a real word, especially in these times
Speaker 3: and this economy.
Speaker 1: Edie Eadie Modica, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited.
Speaker 3: Oh I love that you're using our words, you know,
Speaker 3: our words over here. I at this point, I have
Speaker 3: the lexicon of like love island. Like my little sims,
Speaker 3: That's what I like to call my beautiful little sims.
Speaker 3: They be on their saying like genuinely all the time,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn, this is how I'm starting to sound.
Speaker 1: I got three words. What happened? But I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: make fun of them babies.
Speaker 3: Okay, they going through enough, but true right, Like it's
Speaker 3: like this kind of a little bit of a scam
Speaker 3: in itself. I'm like, why y'all go put these little
Speaker 3: sims on here? And somebody put it in such a
Speaker 3: great reference way. We are watching these people, you know,
Speaker 3: in a Stanford prison experiment.
Speaker 2: It's just an experiment.
Speaker 3: They're sleep deprived, they're you know what did they give
Speaker 3: them the food that makes them fart all day? They
Speaker 3: got avocados, acados, avocados, eggs, avocados, eggs and apples. So
Speaker 3: and then and then they gotta go kiss strangers all
Speaker 3: the time. And somebody put it in a great way.
Speaker 3: They were like, if we just look up the time
Speaker 3: that they've been shooting, it's around eight hundred hours of
Speaker 3: footage and we only see thirty six hours.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we're judging.
Speaker 3: These people off of what less than four percent or
Speaker 3: like around four percent of their experience, So.
Speaker 1: Keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: Guys, they scamming them sexy babies, they scamming them.
Speaker 1: No, but I want to ask you about your relationship
Speaker 1: with scams.
Speaker 3: Eating So I like to play the scam sometimes and
Speaker 3: just ask you a couple of questions and get your opinion.
Speaker 3: Is something a scam, is it a scheme? Or do
Speaker 3: you feel like it's a real thing? So I'm sure
Speaker 3: you're not gonna be surprised. The first one I'm gonna
Speaker 3: ask you is Jury Duty? How do you feel about
Speaker 3: Jury Duty? And if you don't mind describing the show
Speaker 3: to people who may have not been blessed to see
Speaker 3: it yet, which you must be living under a rock.
Speaker 1: But also I love that for you.
Speaker 2: But yeah, hmm, well, was it a scam more of
Speaker 2: a scheme? I think that sounds nicer.
Speaker 3: If you're talking about in relation, Because I'm gonna talk
Speaker 3: about both just like real life every day. But like
Speaker 3: if we're talking about in relation to the TV show
Speaker 3: you were on, how do you feel like that was that.
Speaker 2: Was a scheme? It was a planned scheme. I can't
Speaker 2: say scam.
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't think it's a scam at all.
Speaker 3: But I'm more so asking about your experience and like
Speaker 3: the show, like do you feel like you all were
Speaker 3: tricking this person?
Speaker 1: Where do you lie on that?
Speaker 2: I don't think they should keep doing it to men.
Speaker 2: It's what I think, or to people, to people, but
Speaker 2: why men's specifically, well, because they only do it to men.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's true.
Speaker 2: I don't think I think one was enough and we
Speaker 2: got the point. It was a very special show, I
Speaker 2: think because it had never been done. But to keep
Speaker 2: doing it, I'm a little like I'm probably gonna get
Speaker 2: in trouble. I'm just like I feel I feel a
Speaker 2: little bad, but also he's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And also I think that they did it to a
Speaker 3: man more than once, because I feel like women would
Speaker 3: not be as oblivious.
Speaker 2: Well, and women are talking to people too, like I
Speaker 2: feel like men are suffering in silence, like they're like
Speaker 2: that was weird, But I don't know that I can
Speaker 2: say that out loud.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: They would be talking to everybody immediately and getting all
Speaker 2: affections right, right exactly. I can't shut up.
Speaker 3: Same so I would have been a lunch break. I
Speaker 3: would have been like, so let's all gather up.
Speaker 2: Because I'm feeling something about this, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the feelings, the feelings that are facts would have
Speaker 3: come out. Yes, that's a nice way to put it
Speaker 3: though that like these like poor men, because I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: like listen, it's very hard for me to support a man.
Speaker 3: They put themselves in their own prison and that's why
Speaker 3: it sucked there. But you're so right. They would be
Speaker 3: the ones to process things in their brains and then
Speaker 3: be like, but if everybody else is actually normal, I'm.
Speaker 2: A man, I'd get at even more normal.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Remember for a while it was like a popular thing
Speaker 3: that the Man of Spirit was doing.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was called.
Speaker 3: But they would go on planes and they like wouldn't
Speaker 3: watch the TV on the plane, not listen to any music,
Speaker 3: not read a book, no entertainment for like as long
Speaker 3: of flights as they could, where they were just like
Speaker 3: white masculine, yeah, not sleeping, just white just white knuckle.
Speaker 1: Wait, you can joke. What do y'all look up the name?
Speaker 3: Because there was a name for this if people were
Speaker 3: doing it, And I was like, why though.
Speaker 2: Why you can enjoy yourself?
Speaker 1: Yeah, raw dogging.
Speaker 3: Raw dogging is hitten for me because it's like raw
Speaker 3: dogging life where people are like, oh, you're not on medication,
Speaker 3: you raw dogging life? Like oh yeah, So they were like,
Speaker 3: we're gonna raw dog these flights and like not have anything.
Speaker 2: To interpecifically on airplanes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the airplanes were like the like they started to
Speaker 3: expand into other experiences where you would want to entertain yourself.
Speaker 1: But I think it started with airplanes.
Speaker 2: It's so dark, be nice to yourself, enjoy yourself, it's okay, and.
Speaker 3: Like, no, we need to feel pain. I'm like, this
Speaker 3: is why y'all are so upset. Yes, but so that
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense to me. I would say
Speaker 3: like actual jury duty when it's not a show, is
Speaker 3: also a scheme.
Speaker 2: Because yeah, I've never done it.
Speaker 3: I haven't either, and now it's very difficult in our
Speaker 3: industry to do it because I can't be like hey Sony,
Speaker 3: hey Disney. I can't make my job because I have
Speaker 3: to go sit on this jury. But I'm trying to
Speaker 3: figure out a way to do it because more black
Speaker 3: people and more women in general need to be doing
Speaker 3: jury duty because if we're not there to represent our
Speaker 3: ilk are peers, then these people aren't getting a fair trial,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yes, but who wants to do that?
Speaker 1: I know? And that's what makes it so hard.
Speaker 3: And I think that there's so many people who want
Speaker 3: to be cops, Like the thirst to be a cop
Speaker 3: in life is so strange to me. Like that's where
Speaker 3: we got the term karen from, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's like people who wanted to be police and everybody
Speaker 3: else yes, And so those people show up to jury
Speaker 3: duty yet ready read They're like I brought rocks for
Speaker 3: the stone. They're like, no, you don't get to be executioner.
Speaker 3: Two bro put them rocks down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like the people that end up on
Speaker 2: it are probably the worst kinds of people, or people
Speaker 2: who are bored or have nothing else going on in
Speaker 2: their life. That's why they're there, and now they're get
Speaker 2: to feel like righteous.
Speaker 3: And then I also think I hope that like retired people,
Speaker 3: I hope the elderly are going like, y'all got a
Speaker 3: lot of wisdom, like y'all pop up in there memo
Speaker 3: and Papau and instead of getting scammed on the phone,
Speaker 3: hang out at court and help decide somebody, Hey, go
Speaker 3: to court.
Speaker 1: But I know that we have to do it too.
Speaker 3: It's just so hard at this point in my life
Speaker 3: to give up that time because I simply cannot.
Speaker 1: They're like, you know, we own you, right, you can't
Speaker 1: not come. But then if.
Speaker 3: I show up d duty to the government, gonna be like,
Speaker 3: you know, we can arrest you, right, since you're just
Speaker 3: not coming.
Speaker 2: No miny Like, but I'm an actress, let you understand.
Speaker 3: But I think a lot of like really busy people
Speaker 3: are also And this is not to take away from
Speaker 3: people who have free time, because they can also be
Speaker 3: highly intelligent. But I think a lot of highly intelligent
Speaker 3: people are like, I don't have time for this shit.
Speaker 3: And then it's like, so, now we got a jury
Speaker 3: of all the George Bush's kids.
Speaker 1: It's like George Bush dropped off all these.
Speaker 3: Kids at the house and left them behind, and now
Speaker 3: they get to decide your fate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not right, it's not.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, how do we fix them, like, if
Speaker 3: you do have the time, guys, you gotta make the sacrifice, please,
Speaker 3: but not us. I know I haven't had such a hypocrite,
Speaker 3: but I'm like, literally, I can't. Yeah, because what if
Speaker 3: I get stuck on like a very long trial.
Speaker 1: What if we switch that up in the government.
Speaker 3: What if it was like, Okay, we know this is
Speaker 3: some petty shit, we can get over quickly.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me get one of them short ones.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm and I know that everybody would be
Speaker 3: thirsty to get the short trial.
Speaker 1: But what if we could bring in.
Speaker 3: Like our like our doctor's notes or our excuses of
Speaker 3: like why we can't be on anything like a murder
Speaker 3: trial or something.
Speaker 2: That way, we're there for something something. I would love
Speaker 2: to be there for something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how did it feel like even just like in
Speaker 3: this show Recreation, were you bored?
Speaker 2: Ever? Was it? Oh? My god? There were such long
Speaker 2: periods of like witness is going up and being really
Speaker 2: boring just so that the reality stuff felt more real.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was boring. But then also like they
Speaker 2: wouldn't we wouldn't see some of the witnesses before. So
Speaker 2: then sometimes they have someone get up and they start
Speaker 2: doing something extremely funny, and we haven't even been breathed
Speaker 2: on it, and we're all like trying not to laugh,
Speaker 2: like not looking at each other, like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I can't believe they're doing this to us.
Speaker 1: Right, I think that's a moment where you could laugh, though, I.
Speaker 2: Feel I mean I did about Cardi B.
Speaker 1: When she was on the witness.
Speaker 2: Stand that was she was so amazing.
Speaker 3: If I had a Cardi B. Cuirt case, I would
Speaker 3: have been up in food there. She's so funny, we
Speaker 3: got so many memes. She's a genius, Like maybe that's
Speaker 3: a bribe like she and she's constantly getting in legal trouble.
Speaker 3: So guys think about it like this, if you sign
Speaker 3: up for jewelry duty, you might be a one of
Speaker 3: Cardi B's hilarious trials where she just threw something at
Speaker 3: somebody or was like y'all saha, y'all sawha, Like come on,
Speaker 3: come on, like you might get one of the.
Speaker 2: Whose or Johnny Depp amber heard she's leaving shit in
Speaker 2: his bed. I wouldn't be seated for that.
Speaker 1: Seated. Now, that's a long trial.
Speaker 3: So that's gotta be for our board community or our
Speaker 3: retired community.
Speaker 1: Yes, but yeah, like, thinking about it that way, you
Speaker 1: could you could get a landmark case.
Speaker 2: You could become a writer after one of them.
Speaker 3: Also, right, yeah, you could be inspired exactly. Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: so right, because there's so many trials that are so
Speaker 3: famous that then the jurors come out and they write
Speaker 3: about what really happened.
Speaker 2: It might be a career change.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: You could at least get like a panphle sized book
Speaker 3: out of it and sell it on Amazon. Scene, right,
Speaker 3: a zine were buying it.
Speaker 1: We buying a zine.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think we're giving incentive now for people to
Speaker 3: go to jury duty.
Speaker 1: Yes, in ways that they haven't before.
Speaker 3: They keep being like civic duty, Like nobody wants to
Speaker 3: do that. Make it sound cool, right, you could make
Speaker 3: a scene, right, make it like let's make a deal
Speaker 3: where we get pulled out of the audience bank running
Speaker 3: down and costumes and shit like whoa, let Wayne Brady
Speaker 3: host jury like yeah, we have lawyers and stuff, but
Speaker 3: in between you know.
Speaker 2: D break mm hmm.
Speaker 3: It's so sad that in America, like you know, you
Speaker 3: need to entertain us and we need to maybe be
Speaker 3: able to get famous.
Speaker 1: And then we'll come otherwise.
Speaker 3: No, and it's pissed me off that every profession is
Speaker 3: coming like turning into that, Like what do you mean?
Speaker 3: And I've said there so many times on the show,
Speaker 3: but I'm like, what do you mean. You're a doctor
Speaker 3: or a nurse and you're trying to get famous ontack.
Speaker 3: But it's like now every profession's like, I'm a plumber.
Speaker 3: They call me Joe the crack.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, are like a day in the life of
Speaker 2: a surgeon, right, And I'm sorry you need to be
Speaker 2: paying attention, but some.
Speaker 3: Of it it's highly interesting, and so I they get
Speaker 3: followers because I didn't know that during these long operation
Speaker 3: sessions they be playing music. I didn't know that different
Speaker 3: types of surgeons like, oh my gosh, I think it's
Speaker 3: orthopedic surgeons. I could be wrong, y'all correct me if
Speaker 3: I am, But there's certain types of surgeons who like
Speaker 3: play like gangster rap when they're like known for it.
Speaker 1: So you might like, if you imagine you're being put
Speaker 1: under and you just hear it.
Speaker 3: It's it must be I'm like, but that's what they
Speaker 3: do it As we are under, they're turning on their
Speaker 3: ship and then it's just cutting on us, like.
Speaker 1: Putting the bellot why are you cutting on me? Like,
Speaker 1: so it is interesting.
Speaker 3: I get the impetus, but I'm also like, maybe everybody
Speaker 3: go back to doing their job. Yes, maybe I'm just
Speaker 3: not privileged to know that. I was never genuinely curious pain. Yes,
Speaker 3: I know, but then when they come we were war
Speaker 3: them because like, oh my gosh, you can't get me
Speaker 3: off of private yacht chef, TikTok. I want to know
Speaker 3: every meal you cook in. I want to know if
Speaker 3: they assholes who got too drunk, who fill off the boat,
Speaker 3: Like that's why we have.
Speaker 1: Below deck though, so we would just let them do Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had that. Yeah, you're so right. It's not necessary
Speaker 1: for the content creators.
Speaker 2: I've been watching a bunch of like tone inground toenail infections.
Speaker 2: Oh that's what my entire feed, and there's I'm following
Speaker 2: all of these doctors. It's incredible, but it's nasty.
Speaker 1: Eatio your feet, Okay.
Speaker 3: I was about to say, you probably have a great feet.
Speaker 3: You don't strike me as somebody who got connected. I
Speaker 3: wish they had stuff going on so I could look
Speaker 3: at it. I don't know, I feel like you're looking
Speaker 3: at these feet and thinking about the foot privilege.
Speaker 1: You have that show what your feet is so strong.
Speaker 2: That's actually the scam. I wanted to talk about what
Speaker 2: I was foot pick scam.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait a second, we can.
Speaker 2: Get to it now. Hour later, I'm glad that.
Speaker 3: The scam guy had reached out to me to say that,
Speaker 3: because now we now we know we're I'm locked in,
Speaker 3: I'm seated.
Speaker 2: So what have Okay, so I will like sell pictures
Speaker 2: at my feet if people are asking, yeah, because it's nothing.
Speaker 2: It's nothing from me. It's joy on both ends. It's fun.
Speaker 2: I give it a little sokka. And that's how you
Speaker 2: get it. You just post a picture of your foot
Speaker 2: one time. They will find you.
Speaker 3: Oh theyound me and maybe in the comments like great
Speaker 3: feet or I look at my wiki and it's.
Speaker 1: Literally every foot, every exposure.
Speaker 3: And I like to show other actors who were like
Speaker 3: a little older about it. And I showed Jerry Trainor
Speaker 3: about it. I was like, you know, you have a
Speaker 3: wiki right, and he was like, what's that? And I
Speaker 3: showed him and he was like, this isn't even making
Speaker 3: me sense. It's one pictures of my dog. And I
Speaker 3: looked at him like with th most sinister eyes, and
Speaker 3: I was like.
Speaker 1: Zoom in and he was like, oh my god. So okay,
Speaker 1: so you have a great market.
Speaker 2: Take I there was this guy who asked like he
Speaker 2: was like, can I do the thing with you? And
Speaker 2: he was like, I like to do it as we go,
Speaker 2: So like you send five pictures, I send one hundred dollars,
Speaker 2: you know, and then I send more pictures. He sends
Speaker 2: money and I was like, all right, that's fine. So
Speaker 2: the first time we did it, that's what we did.
Speaker 2: He sent me like three hundred dollars. I'm literally I
Speaker 2: was talking with my roommate. They're good, they're nice. No, no,
Speaker 2: he likes my personality. That's where it's coming from. So
Speaker 2: this was the first time. Then the second time he
Speaker 2: was like, hey, you want to do it again. I'm
Speaker 2: not doing anything. Why not? I'm taking pictures And it
Speaker 2: said on the PayPal thing. I mean this, you can
Speaker 2: make fun of me. It's said on PayPal pending the
Speaker 2: payment is pending. And he was like in England, so
Speaker 2: and I was like, I guess he's across the pond.
Speaker 2: It takes time to you know.
Speaker 1: Well PayPal some dams does have a pending payment.
Speaker 3: And what's crazy about it is that if you're on
Speaker 3: the wrong end of that, which I have been where
Speaker 3: I sent money that was supposed to go to a
Speaker 3: family member and it.
Speaker 2: Was a lot of money.
Speaker 3: Baby didn't get it back, and I was called of
Speaker 3: PayPal the second I did it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and I.
Speaker 3: Was like hey, hey, hey, hey hey, and they were like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's above us now fuck PayPal.
Speaker 1: But also spotsor to show pay Pal.
Speaker 3: But so you also said that you were talking to
Speaker 3: your roommate, so so gud the PayPal is pending.
Speaker 1: And then you said something about talking to your roommate.
Speaker 2: Oh my, Like I'm just saying like I'm hanging out
Speaker 2: while I'm doing this.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I got it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't take very much for me.
Speaker 3: No, you know, but okay, but so this is easy
Speaker 3: light work to do the physics basically.
Speaker 2: Then he was like, oh, yeah, it's because I live
Speaker 2: in England. Whatever. And then eventually the money never came.
Speaker 2: And during that one, I'm sending like my faces in
Speaker 2: the pictures, He's like, put your toe in your mouth
Speaker 2: because it's going oh.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I'm not gasping. I'm not gasping at
Speaker 3: the functionality. I knew when he said that I want
Speaker 3: to go back and forth. That he wanted to make
Speaker 3: sure that whatever he was asking for, he was the
Speaker 3: only one getting it, because you know, the girls will.
Speaker 1: Recycle some shit.
Speaker 3: The girls would be recycling the I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: I'm doing it full, full on, and I'm going to do.
Speaker 1: A good ass job.
Speaker 3: He said he wants today's newspaper, and I gasped, and
Speaker 3: I said, you're locked in and he's not sending the coin.
Speaker 3: That's why I guessed, because like, it's the difference to
Speaker 3: giving me. I can give you a recycled foot, but
Speaker 3: if I'm giving you new foot moment to moment foot,
Speaker 3: where's my ship?
Speaker 2: Please? And he got me because he did it the
Speaker 2: first time. You know, he paid me one time. Then
Speaker 2: he was like I can get more. Mmmm that give
Speaker 2: a little to get a lot. And then also what
Speaker 2: the fuck he doing with these pictures? Because what if
Speaker 2: he's flipping the picks and making his own coin? I know,
Speaker 2: but to who, like, I'm just like, wait a who.
Speaker 3: He gave you? It feels like he gave you your cut.
Speaker 3: Like there's something in pimping. I've been on pimp TikTok
Speaker 3: a lot, where like in Miami they call him the tricks, right,
Speaker 3: So a woman will be like, hey, come out with us,
Speaker 3: like we got some tricks.
Speaker 1: They about to give you money, They about to like
Speaker 1: really run it out.
Speaker 3: And then you're thinking like, oh, I'm getting money for
Speaker 3: be at a beautiful battie.
Speaker 1: That's all I have to do.
Speaker 3: And then after they give you that first bit of money,
Speaker 3: they'd be like, okay, well we're gonna get something out
Speaker 3: of you as well. And so this is given now
Speaker 3: where he was like, I'm gonna give you this money,
Speaker 3: but now he's got so much more content and he
Speaker 3: could easily have a fake profile up somewhere in.
Speaker 2: England filled with me toe in the mouth.
Speaker 3: I feel like a foot reseller and that's getting me
Speaker 3: off like say that.
Speaker 2: After that, I kind of like I found almost like
Speaker 2: a new fetish for myself because I kind of liked
Speaker 2: that he was scamming me.
Speaker 3: I do like to talk to scammers. We're locked in.
Speaker 3: We're so locked in, don't even worry about the sweetheart.
Speaker 3: They won't talk to me back, like, they'll hit me
Speaker 3: up and then I'll start texting with them, and then
Speaker 3: I can't help myself. I started putting it on Instagram stories. Like, hey, y'all,
Speaker 3: I got one of those fake number of things and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, like them, I'm trying to yeah,
Speaker 3: but then I get too eager and I put it
Speaker 3: on tic or I put it on Instagram or something right,
Speaker 3: and then like they see it and they're like, oh fuck,
Speaker 3: like they'll like never mind, and I'm like, no way,
Speaker 3: you said we got a golf appointments and they leave me.
Speaker 3: And that makes you feel some type of way that
Speaker 3: I'm getting ghosted by scammers. But so you you now
Speaker 3: you're feeling involved, Okay, okay, and what did that do
Speaker 3: for you?
Speaker 2: Like I kind of liked then I kind of got
Speaker 2: into the idea of him of being scammed, like the
Speaker 2: power of being a scammer. I was kind of like,
Speaker 2: why do I like this? And then I was like,
Speaker 2: what if I just send him pictures just like for
Speaker 2: no reason? And then I was like, what if I
Speaker 2: start paying him?
Speaker 1: Okay, now we're taking this step too far. I was
Speaker 1: with you before.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be this way. You gotta be
Speaker 2: honest with you.
Speaker 1: You gotta be on the opposite side of it.
Speaker 3: I didn't know this but before my podcast and you know,
Speaker 3: book and television show took off. I Scam Goddess had
Speaker 3: a completely different meaning. I kind of repurposed it and
Speaker 3: had no idea that scam goddesses are people who because
Speaker 3: I was getting confused, I would be on Twitter or
Speaker 3: whatever and men were start getting my comments and they're like,
Speaker 3: I'll be your pay piggy, like you can you know,
Speaker 3: yell at me or do whatever and I'll just send
Speaker 3: you money. And so then I started googling scam Goddess
Speaker 3: in the origination of it, and it is scamming men
Speaker 3: who want to be scammed, so yes, we'll look get
Speaker 3: involved that way.
Speaker 2: I know. I have this friend who reached This was
Speaker 2: years ago. He I hadn't heard from him in years,
Speaker 2: and then he reached out to me and he was like, Hey,
Speaker 2: can I talk to you about something, which I feel
Speaker 2: like my whole life people always tell me like the deepest,
Speaker 2: darkest things that have ever happened to them, like random people.
Speaker 2: I have like an open face too. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's why he's telling me. So I was like, sure,
Speaker 2: what's going on? And he was like, I have this problem,
Speaker 2: like I'm into finndom, financial domination, I'm like losing he
Speaker 2: was like, I've gone like bankrupts so many times and
Speaker 2: he's telling me all this stuff and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. But then at one moment, I was like,
Speaker 2: is he asking me to do it? Like why is
Speaker 2: he telling me about this?
Speaker 1: Like did you just get paid? And it's so did
Speaker 1: that money hit you account?
Speaker 2: He was like, and I didn't do it because I
Speaker 2: actually like cared about him, and he was like, it's
Speaker 2: ruining my life. But I was like, your ass is
Speaker 2: jerking off right now, probably right for me to turn
Speaker 2: to flip it.
Speaker 3: Also, was he trying to get a freebie where he's
Speaker 3: like I have been given away all my money and
Speaker 3: I'm going bankrupt and now you're listening and being like
Speaker 3: oh no, and he's over there just wanking it like probably.
Speaker 1: She knows.
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit like why are you giving me
Speaker 3: this information?
Speaker 2: I think he wants me to be like, you're a
Speaker 2: little bitch. Give me your money now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if you're giving it to everybody else, you've
Speaker 3: given it out, run it to me a little bit too,
Speaker 3: little bank bitch boy.
Speaker 2: Okay, you've done this before, you little bank bitch boy.
Speaker 1: Like I don't even want your money.
Speaker 3: It's not even enough for me, but send it right now,
Speaker 3: like I feel like I could get involved. Yes, but okay,
Speaker 3: so you there's an error that's happening where things are
Speaker 3: happening around you. I have that happened to me too,
Speaker 3: where scams are constantly finding me.
Speaker 1: So I get you. I get that.
Speaker 2: There's also on Venmo Daddy Michael. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've ever experienced this guy. He comments on every Venmo
Speaker 2: interaction that I have. No, He's like, hello, my name
Speaker 2: is Daddy Michael. I'm a god fearing man, and like,
Speaker 2: I'm not playing around. I want to be your pay
Speaker 2: daddy and my friend and I texted him, but then
Speaker 2: he didn't really he didn't continue the conversation.
Speaker 3: Okay, but why you double up on him? That might
Speaker 3: be why he got He said he loved God.
Speaker 2: And I thought he would feel blessed.
Speaker 3: I thought, no, I think he was sharing his vulnerability
Speaker 3: with you, and he was like, let me get my
Speaker 3: friend involved.
Speaker 1: We both go run it up on him. No, Daddy
Speaker 1: Mchael just wanted you.
Speaker 3: He said, I want one child he didn't want, And
Speaker 3: come to think of it, there's probably a lot of
Speaker 3: like really god fearing Christian people who don't even realize
Speaker 3: that they like a like a financial domination situation, because
Speaker 3: think about prosperity Gospel and how we've had pastors locked
Speaker 3: the doors of the church and be like you got
Speaker 3: to give more money, Like if you want to sow see,
Speaker 3: give me three thousand dollars. If you want to get this,
Speaker 3: give me That Is that a kink that we did,
Speaker 3: ass it's like the classiest way to do that kink because.
Speaker 1: My past is sailing at me and calling me broke.
Speaker 1: But now have an audience too. Yeah, that's a.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying everyone's doing it for that reason. There
Speaker 3: are a lot of people who give to churches because
Speaker 3: they want to support their communities. I'm talking about those
Speaker 3: mega churches where it is so apparent that this pastor
Speaker 3: is pimping the congregation that I'm like, y'all gotta like
Speaker 3: this a little bit.
Speaker 1: Hm hmmm. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like we shouldn't have met
Speaker 3: under these circumstances because I'm like, let me give you
Speaker 3: my number, group, cause i feel like I feel like
Speaker 3: we're a little too locked this.
Speaker 2: I think so too. They can't let us get in kahoots.
Speaker 3: No, they can't let us get in cahoots cashoos. Now
Speaker 3: my foot ain't is I'm had the photoshop. I should
Speaker 3: a little bit. I had my fans run my wiki
Speaker 3: feet up. But my feet look like what I've been through,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? They look like I was
Speaker 3: walking to school barefoot in the snow every day. It
Speaker 3: was like, what's going on? The bitch dancing on glass
Speaker 3: like I'm have to get mine. I'm like, why if
Speaker 3: he got to bed? But I feel like we could
Speaker 3: do it. Now did this end with the man just
Speaker 3: conghosting with the feet, like yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: I got mad at him and I just I said
Speaker 2: fuck you, yeah for something, and then I was like
Speaker 2: I blocked him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that he tried to make your
Speaker 3: feet stock because I really do think.
Speaker 2: He flipping the foot and he has some incriminating images,
Speaker 2: is what I'll say. Bad.
Speaker 3: I think he flipping that foot and making brillid and
Speaker 3: that's upsetting to me and my homegirls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, scarce.
Speaker 3: God speaking of people flipping things and shricking people, our
Speaker 3: historic hoodwin today. This is a portion of the show
Speaker 3: where I will regale Eatie with a famous con caper
Speaker 3: group of criminals will get her opinions all throughout. And
Speaker 3: today we're actually talking about a flipper. So there's a
Speaker 3: serial scalper that has been reselling dinner reservations at high
Speaker 3: end sushi bars like Yoshino at extreme up charges. Finding
Speaker 3: him unearthed a network of Michelin Star restaurant reservation scalping
Speaker 3: that was happening across New York City. And listen, in
Speaker 3: this season, you don't want to get got. There's just
Speaker 3: some food for thought. So have you ever been to
Speaker 3: like a Michelin Star restaurant. I'm sure you have. The
Speaker 3: Emmys know about you. I know when you was in
Speaker 3: the Hollywood Report. I know you eating to everybody's Star wars. Okay,
Speaker 3: I know that white tied man. I hate to see
Speaker 3: you cover.
Speaker 1: Now we're now.
Speaker 3: Were you ever making these reservations yourself? Or were they
Speaker 3: kind of coming through like companies or invitations or.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not like that. I'm not like that. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I was a waitress at a pretty fancy restaurant, so
Speaker 2: that's usually my friend who owned the restaurant would get
Speaker 2: me a reservation.
Speaker 1: Same same, I've done that before and my dad.
Speaker 2: Works in steakhouses in the city. So that's he's a waiter.
Speaker 2: So you locked in and I'm that world and that
Speaker 2: kind of waiter like they make bank.
Speaker 3: They make bank, like people don't need those levels to
Speaker 3: this waiter.
Speaker 1: Shit. Okay, there's a house.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, but I do. He's got to get out, Yeah,
Speaker 2: to get out. He's too old. But he's making money.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if it's his passion and he's good
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 2: If it's his passion, you think it's his passion.
Speaker 1: For some people, it is.
Speaker 3: That's why I started giving themselves no names, Like I'm
Speaker 3: not a bartender, I'm a Somali. Ah, I went to
Speaker 3: school for this. What you mean, I'm not head bar back.
Speaker 3: I'm running F and D around this hole. Okay. There
Speaker 3: are some people their passion. It's a seruicide. No, he
Speaker 3: loves he loves the restaurant world. Hm.
Speaker 1: It wasn't my passion though, So I can understand where
Speaker 1: you're coming from.
Speaker 3: But I did it for many years and so this
Speaker 3: like so Yoshino is a ten seat Michelin star sushi
Speaker 3: war on Bowery that opened in twenty twenty one. It's
Speaker 3: a big event to get a seat there. And now
Speaker 3: that I'm looking at this, I've been to a place
Speaker 3: like this in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember the name.
Speaker 3: I just went with Miranda Cosgrove and her mama and
Speaker 3: it was just like this. Oh, I like, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: the kind of place you gotta be like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: with you know, child Caro, Right, okay, I'm with Netflix Royalty.
Speaker 1: She getting that reservation.
Speaker 3: If I call, I can try to be like, hey, y'all,
Speaker 3: have y'all heard a scam? Gut and they probably be
Speaker 3: like this, no, and hang up.
Speaker 1: I don't even think I'm getting to the next sentence.
Speaker 3: So this makes sense that people would try to find
Speaker 3: another way to get into these high end restaurants if
Speaker 3: they don't have the cloud or the power.
Speaker 2: But these are people finding the scalper like they're the
Speaker 2: scammers themselves.
Speaker 1: Oh I would find the scalper.
Speaker 3: I absolutely am kind of down for this if they're
Speaker 3: not stealing the reservation, like if I actually get it.
Speaker 3: So you know, we're talking about Yoshina, right, and it's
Speaker 3: this tense. It looks very fancy. It also looks just
Speaker 3: very expensive. They're only gonna do maybe twenty covers a night,
Speaker 3: maybe three sittings, maybe they get thirty people on that beach.
Speaker 1: So you know it's expensive wild, although I do like
Speaker 1: this better.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of expensive restaurants where it's
Speaker 3: like huge, it's like the size of a cheesecak factory.
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't charge me a bunch of money for this.
Speaker 3: And the restaurant where there's ten people, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: y'all gotta make all money.
Speaker 1: So how much is the ice cubes? Again, Yes, it's exclusive.
Speaker 3: It's very plain in there, but you know that's like
Speaker 3: rich where rich people have pivoted to clean Yeah, clean
Speaker 3: the clean girl anesthetic because they're always running from broke e's.
Speaker 3: So once brokeys start to have access to things, then
Speaker 3: rich people were like, oh, we don't do that anymore.
Speaker 3: Like rich people used to be labeled down. They used
Speaker 3: to wear the Gucci belt, they used to have all
Speaker 3: the imbles on. The rappers got a hold of that.
Speaker 3: They were like, oh no, we wear eight hundred dollars
Speaker 3: white Tea's get away from us.
Speaker 2: You put I hate that. I love if something says product,
Speaker 2: I'm like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, put it on my body.
Speaker 2: I love fake Gucci.
Speaker 3: Chinatown bag, some Fucci you can hit sometimes, you know,
Speaker 3: some Gooseie. It's just like and it's like more unique
Speaker 3: than the pieces that they're slang and especially when it
Speaker 3: comes to Gucci, because I consider that, Damn, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: reveal myself as a snot. But I consider that brand
Speaker 3: to be a bit more pedestrian because it's easier to access. Yes,
Speaker 3: But at the same time, haven't I just did what
Speaker 3: I said that I just condemned to rich people for
Speaker 3: doing I'm like, everybody can get it.
Speaker 1: I don't want it anymore. It's nasty.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not like that.
Speaker 3: I'm not like that either, even though I kind of
Speaker 3: did say I was like that just a little bit.
Speaker 3: But I love Coach Comach just killing the game though,
Speaker 3: Like they're.
Speaker 2: Designed signed cheap Coach too.
Speaker 3: And their leather is one of the highest qualities. You know,
Speaker 3: I would have a TikTok rabbit hole about that. There's
Speaker 3: this leather artist who like breaks down like MS bags,
Speaker 3: all these really expensive leather bags. He cuts them apart,
Speaker 3: he like checks them for everything, and Coach ranks high
Speaker 3: up there in like quality.
Speaker 2: Of leather, in quality of leather.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna stop talking because I'm revealing myself
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 1: You you're trying to expose me.
Speaker 3: So back to the story, because anyways, a reservation gets
Speaker 3: you two and a half hour twenty one chorus preset menum.
Speaker 3: The pinocchi counter was sourced from three hundred year old
Speaker 3: tree and the chairs were handmade.
Speaker 2: What was what? Wood?
Speaker 3: Wasn't that's a good point, damn. And I was trying
Speaker 3: to get you think.
Speaker 2: I was saying from me, tree.
Speaker 1: It's a really old one.
Speaker 2: So wood sounds like it's old. It's old wood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we don't do that new money. Would we
Speaker 3: only do old money? Would what get out here? And
Speaker 3: the chairs were handmade k okay As chairs are typically right.
Speaker 3: But they said that it comes from Japan and that
Speaker 3: the knives are crafted by a god a prefecture in Japan.
Speaker 3: So these are like fucking now wild knives. These are
Speaker 3: the best knives ever. And you know what I think
Speaker 3: when I eat food. Damn, A good knife cut this,
Speaker 3: I said, No one, but okay. According to your Sushi
Speaker 3: legend dot com, step into Yoshino. There's a feeling in
Speaker 3: the air. If you were lucky enough to attend Hamilton
Speaker 3: in New York on its first run or like a
Speaker 3: big Boxinger MMA match during sports respective you know seasons,
Speaker 3: like this is like going to the super Bowl of eating. Okay,
Speaker 3: I know I feel the same way. It's just because
Speaker 3: they won't let you in that you're like, there's an
Speaker 3: era about this place.
Speaker 1: Look at all the old Well this.
Speaker 3: One ain't young, like like come on now, So this
Speaker 3: began like kind of like it wasn't Yoshino that started this,
Speaker 3: but they contributed to these reservation wars. So talk is
Speaker 3: one of the many platforms competing for business in the
Speaker 3: reservation wars. And some restaurants use the old reliables like
Speaker 3: open tables, or they use seven Rooms, which is independently
Speaker 3: owned and funded by celebrity chefs like Jose andres and
Speaker 3: some just use yelp. If you're you know yelp the
Speaker 3: the ross dress for less of reservation apps. Everybody's on yelp.
Speaker 3: So Resie is also, you know, like a fake bougie one.
Speaker 3: So Resie and Talk are now the new bougier never talk,
Speaker 3: never heard of talk.
Speaker 2: So you're making new ones because.
Speaker 3: That's how you stay relevant once people start to hear
Speaker 3: about it. Then remember we got to run away the
Speaker 3: pores know about it, so we.
Speaker 2: You're not to talk.
Speaker 3: You've not heard of talk, And I'm like, you mean
Speaker 3: TikTok And they're like, oh, darling, no no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 3: So reside and talk of the new hot reservation like
Speaker 3: and they're like both owned by American Express and Resident
Speaker 3: which kind of gives to me, like, you know how
Speaker 3: Procter and Gamble owns a lot of competing brands, so
Speaker 3: you're gain and you're tied maybe competing soap brands, but
Speaker 3: they're owned by the same company, so American Express is
Speaker 3: doing that. We're like, if you think Resie is supedestriate,
Speaker 3: don't worry. We have talk now it's even bougie. Don't
Speaker 3: don't look at who is it? Don't look who I's it.
Speaker 3: So talk got like more expensive reservations because people were
Speaker 3: using prepaid bookings and dynamic pricing, so them how to
Speaker 3: the restaurant. You would have to pay in advance to
Speaker 3: get the reservation. And this has now just become a thing,
Speaker 3: so people, you know, will be like, oh, I'll make
Speaker 3: a rezie, which I've heard people say that, especially in
Speaker 3: New York, but now that word is just like how
Speaker 3: Kleenex is like, you don't say, oh, can I have
Speaker 3: a nose tissue?
Speaker 1: You say can I have a Kleenex? So they have
Speaker 1: the brand.
Speaker 2: Now, I mean, you couldn't pay me to say should
Speaker 2: I make a RESI but it was reservation.
Speaker 1: On the app.
Speaker 2: I'll be making a reservation on Rezi.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, because you're a woman of the people. Okay.
Speaker 3: So to get a reservation at Yo, she knew, you
Speaker 3: have to book on the talk platform and pay a
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars per person deposit that.
Speaker 2: You get back.
Speaker 3: The actual meal including tax and tip but not drinks,
Speaker 3: cost six hundred and forty six dollars per person, and
Speaker 3: reservations become available thirty days in advance and noon Eastern time.
Speaker 1: You know, it hurts me about this.
Speaker 3: I'm so tired of things that used to be free
Speaker 3: becoming money.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: This hurts me so much because of the fact that
Speaker 3: everyone's like, how can we make pay?
Speaker 1: Everyone paid for everything all the time.
Speaker 2: For going on the website, you're paying Like I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna go to the restaurant and pay anyway, and
Speaker 3: I was gonna to and I was gonna pay this
Speaker 3: inflated cost of this food. But you're gonna make me
Speaker 3: pay five hundred dollars before I even see the inside
Speaker 3: of this old ass wood.
Speaker 2: But do you get the deposit back? It's just a
Speaker 2: deposit to make sure you go.
Speaker 3: Technically, it's like it goes towards your meal, okay, except
Speaker 3: for drinks, so it just goes towards They.
Speaker 2: Make it confusing too, Yeah, and like.
Speaker 3: The confusion is what's getting me on on a scam
Speaker 3: because it's like, how much is going towards my meal?
Speaker 3: And how much of this is me paying for the
Speaker 3: exclusivity to go to this place and then paying even.
Speaker 2: Six hundred and seventy six dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sushi, six forty six, Yeah for sushi. And
Speaker 3: that's not alcohol. We ain't even got to the yamazaki
Speaker 3: y it. We don't even got nothing. Okay, shit, we
Speaker 3: don't got a soda water on the bill yet. And
Speaker 3: that's six forty six per person off rip. So and
Speaker 3: you got a way, and you got a big and.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be hungry.
Speaker 3: Look, they gonna give you a tiny little bite, but
Speaker 3: they gonna give you twenty one bytes.
Speaker 1: That better be enough, and probably a little suit.
Speaker 2: Of two Burrows after right, yeah, this is a dollare game.
Speaker 3: Definitely a pregame meal place, or this is like a
Speaker 3: model meal place, you know, where the girlies don't really eat.
Speaker 2: I worked at a really expensive, like fancy restaurant in
Speaker 2: the city and one of the menu items the menu
Speaker 2: was always changing, and one of the items was a
Speaker 2: scalp one scallop mm hmm, and it was twenty five
Speaker 2: dollars and order. I mean, I would be like, it's
Speaker 2: the best scallop you're ever gonna eat.
Speaker 3: You'll not thinking about the scallup, this one scallup.
Speaker 2: But it was funny the different kinds of like there
Speaker 2: would be people who would come in who would be like,
Speaker 2: I'll have the scallops, and I'd be like, so it
Speaker 2: is one one. And some people would be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll have to like not even caring, and other people
Speaker 2: were like thank you, you know.
Speaker 1: Thank you for telling us.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I tried bringing it up in like a
Speaker 2: staff meeting and they were kind of like poo pooing
Speaker 2: me for even caring about it, you know, But I
Speaker 2: was like, we gotta tell these people. It's one fucking scallop.
Speaker 3: Honestly, though, I understand the pooh pooh. And here's why
Speaker 3: I used to be like that.
Speaker 2: Differ.
Speaker 3: No, I used to be like that in these restaurants,
Speaker 3: and so people would start ordering things like you like
Speaker 3: a Yamazaki twenty one hundred dollars a glass and it's
Speaker 3: only an alix and a half poor, and I'd be like, okay,
Speaker 3: just so you know, it's a three hundred dollars poor,
Speaker 3: and they would look at me and get mad at me,
Speaker 3: like why you think I'm poor?
Speaker 1: Why you think I don't have it?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, yeah, well that's what I mean saying.
Speaker 2: You know, but if it were me, I would like
Speaker 2: to know that.
Speaker 3: But the whole aesthetic two is also supposed to be
Speaker 3: the assumption that you're so rich that these prices won't
Speaker 3: shock you. And so I now, Yeah, as a way
Speaker 3: to sneak it, you can be like, it's a beautiful
Speaker 3: one scallop and it's not this and that on it.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful it's and it's one.
Speaker 1: No, but you gotta say it is all one thing.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You can't be like it's beautiful and also just a
Speaker 3: single scallop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because a single scallop dish. Oh now we're hitting now.
Speaker 1: Now the rich, now, the super rich people love it.
Speaker 3: And then the people who might be a little bit
Speaker 3: more reasonable about their money rightfully so they know it's
Speaker 3: a single scallop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm the saved tips.
Speaker 2: I just want to relate to everyone, like when people
Speaker 2: come into the restaurant, I like being like, I know
Speaker 2: it's fucking crazy, but you know.
Speaker 3: See, I'm more of a like in between because one
Speaker 3: thing I don't enjoy is going into a high end place.
Speaker 3: And this happens a lot to me as a black woman.
Speaker 3: I'll go into a very expensive place and if you
Speaker 3: can't clock my jewelry, if you can't clock what I
Speaker 3: got on, you may not know I can afford it,
Speaker 3: because you're gonna think I'm poor because I'm black. I
Speaker 3: don't know where this assumption always has come from, but
Speaker 3: you know that's that's the economic goal of white people
Speaker 3: is to keep us poor.
Speaker 1: So if they see us not being poor, but like,
Speaker 1: how you getting here? We gotta stop this.
Speaker 3: So I've gone in places and the people who work
Speaker 3: there are being all high falutin and snooty and bougie
Speaker 3: to me and I'm like, bitch, you work here, I
Speaker 3: shot here, I'm here, yes, so why are you treating
Speaker 3: me like I'm a slave. But I know that reverse
Speaker 3: psychology works on certain people, and they'll be like, I
Speaker 3: got to prove to you that I got money. If
Speaker 3: you treat me like that, I will walk my bitch
Speaker 3: that stuf out of therecat, I'm not giving you no
Speaker 3: fucking commission. And on my way out, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: everybody what you did. And now I'm gonna come back
Speaker 3: in like I'm so pretty woman. I'll come back in
Speaker 3: a big mistake you I feel me and put it
Speaker 3: on tiktocky, raggedy bitch you're talking.
Speaker 2: To me, I'm like, it's one scallop girl.
Speaker 1: No, that wouldn't offend me.
Speaker 3: The people who come in and they look down at
Speaker 3: me like totally sweetheart, like you know, or they don't
Speaker 3: even speak to me or greet me when I come
Speaker 3: into the store because they're like, she.
Speaker 2: Couldn't fell right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fuck you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy a thousand dollars pants that I don't
Speaker 2: even want.
Speaker 3: Actually, but I would only do that if I knew
Speaker 3: how they return and worked a bunch of shit and
Speaker 3: then just return it so you could lose your commission.
Speaker 1: I'll let you have a commission just long enough to.
Speaker 3: Think you own it, and then I'll come back in
Speaker 3: the return period to fuck you.
Speaker 1: That's how petty I am.
Speaker 3: Don't play with me, and I'll make sure I coming
Speaker 3: on your day all so you could be surprised.
Speaker 1: I'm small. I'm sorry, but so I.
Speaker 3: Understand what you're saying, and I'm completely with you because
Speaker 3: this shit is ridiculous, especially when you think of the
Speaker 3: evaluation of what things cost like it's stupid, crazy rab run.
Speaker 3: So in early twenty twenty three, the general manager there,
Speaker 3: he got a tip from a regular customer that it
Speaker 3: was becoming impossible to get a seat at the restaurant.
Speaker 3: Reservations were being scooped up and resold in a close
Speaker 3: group on a Chinese social network e commerce site called
Speaker 3: Red Node or Little Red Book. So somebody was using
Speaker 3: the name when Winter's Weighing and other aliases to sell
Speaker 3: reservations for an additional one hundred and eighty dollars per seat.
Speaker 1: So they were going to get.
Speaker 3: The reservation with the five hundred deposit right then they
Speaker 3: were taking that reservation to another website.
Speaker 1: And flipping it into six point eighty.
Speaker 3: Right, then you still gotta go to a restaurant and
Speaker 3: paint at one and that's not drinks and clues. So
Speaker 3: somebody else has figured out a way to get in on.
Speaker 2: This genius, right, it's genius.
Speaker 3: I mean it hurts me though, because it makes me
Speaker 3: think about your foot flipper and how he was flipping
Speaker 3: the picks.
Speaker 2: And you did.
Speaker 3: Say you liked it. You did say you liked it,
Speaker 3: but I didn't liked that. She won't getting your cut
Speaker 3: at a tone, No more so, Miami. The the restaurant managers,
Speaker 3: they wrote to TikTok or excuse me, I'm calling TikTok.
Speaker 1: They can wrote to.
Speaker 3: Top and they alerted them of the scalping that was happening.
Speaker 3: And she also got screenshots from the scalping website revealing
Speaker 3: the methods that they were using to scalp these seats
Speaker 3: at famous New York restaurants.
Speaker 2: But how are people finding out? People are seeking out
Speaker 2: the scalping website?
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, and so regulars who perhaps were able to
Speaker 3: call before, because once you have a rapport with a restaurant,
Speaker 3: you don't have to use those apps anymore.
Speaker 1: They know you're you know what we used to call them.
Speaker 3: So if I got like a chit from the hostess
Speaker 3: that said, like a very important like swanyer is coming in,
Speaker 3: that means that there's somebody who spends a lot of
Speaker 3: money with us. There might be things on the chit
Speaker 3: about their allergies, their preferences. Lino, Richie used to come
Speaker 3: into our restaurant all the time and he isn't great
Speaker 3: with chopsticks, and he's like, you know, I'm from Alabama, baby,
Speaker 3: And so it got to the point where when I
Speaker 3: knew when he was coming into the restaurant, I would
Speaker 3: already have the chopsticks on the little kid things for him, totally,
Speaker 3: the little clippers, like I would have his drink order
Speaker 3: ready because like he you know. So, yeah, the Swans
Speaker 3: were starting to be like, hey, I just usually call y'all,
Speaker 3: and every time I try to call y'all, now y'all
Speaker 3: booked up.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 3: And so that's when she had the inkling to see
Speaker 3: if there was someone else taking the reservations, because they
Speaker 3: know what reservations.
Speaker 1: They're getting from what websites.
Speaker 3: And also, if you think about it, if I were
Speaker 3: to purchase the restoration under a fake name on talk
Speaker 3: the real MX website, right, and then I go resell it.
Speaker 1: I probably have to change the name on the reservation or.
Speaker 3: Somebody or a bunch of different looking people keep coming
Speaker 3: in as mister Wang. Like what if I showed when
Speaker 3: I was like, hey Lacy, party of two or I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it should be under mister Wang and Partia two. They
Speaker 3: could be looking at my black ass like who.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, y'all know I won't.
Speaker 2: Come out mister Wang.
Speaker 3: I've got a very complicated family. Okay, we got I'm adopted.
Speaker 3: Like people are just coming in with the same person's
Speaker 3: name or they're having to change the name. So it
Speaker 3: makes sense that they got this evidence and so now
Speaker 3: they're trying to stop what was going on. So wrapping
Speaker 3: this up Winter's Wang, which is the fake name, who's
Speaker 3: also me? I'm now Winter's Wang, a proud Asian woman
Speaker 3: as I've always been. This person isn't the first or
Speaker 3: the last dinner reservation scalper. In twenty twenty three, appointment
Speaker 3: trader dot com sold for almost six million dollars in restaurants.
Speaker 3: They sold almost six million dollars in restaurant reservations. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, a part appointment trader dot com. Why have
Speaker 3: I not thought of these things? So these these table scalpers,
Speaker 3: now they have a name. They slang a table. They're like,
Speaker 3: I got that table, I got that table. Could you
Speaker 3: imagine going to a fancy restaurant and then there's somebody
Speaker 3: standing outside, like in a trench, cable like table table,
Speaker 3: tight table, party of three.
Speaker 1: I got a party. I got a party of three
Speaker 1: at eight. What you want for what you want for it?
Speaker 1: I can't. I hate a marathon.
Speaker 2: You know what's a good hack? At the fancy place
Speaker 2: they worked at. You can go in person and make
Speaker 2: a reservation for the future, anytime in the future. And
Speaker 2: I do it in person.
Speaker 3: And sometimes they'll have somebody drop out, and randomly you'll
Speaker 3: get lucky and they have something that night. If not,
Speaker 3: they'll give you something later. Yeah, that's a hack for
Speaker 3: or if I'm on PR. Now, this is really gonna
Speaker 3: make me sound away. It's not my fault. Sometimes I
Speaker 3: will hit up my publicers and be like, can you
Speaker 3: get me into this restaurant?
Speaker 2: Do you live in New York? I?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, where are you?
Speaker 3: Are?
Speaker 1: You still in New York or where you at?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yes, you still got the energy and the spirits,
Speaker 3: so I figured as much. So yeah, they got all
Speaker 3: types of websites and people who are doing this. But
Speaker 3: now they got a hashtag that's going on. The hashtag
Speaker 3: is like a group of Fridance bros. They started using
Speaker 3: this hashtag in twenty twenty two called hashtag free resi
Speaker 3: for a group chat based out of the encrypted messaging
Speaker 3: platform Telegram. And they got busted. So they ain't got
Speaker 3: a telegram and these are fat bros. They're gonna find
Speaker 3: a way to rob us all. Like what like, what
Speaker 3: is the fight? What's the stock market? What do they
Speaker 3: add to the world? I don't know, No one does.
Speaker 3: It's theph it's a casino. Ain't nobody ever been like
Speaker 3: a Wall Street bro built my home? Like no, it's
Speaker 3: more likely they bought your home and outpriss your neighborhood. Yes,
Speaker 3: the holly do is destroyed. So of course they started
Speaker 3: to do a telegram and having their own sketchy ass
Speaker 3: rezie as well. Not shocked, right, So most of these
Speaker 3: reservations that they were using on this like secret app,
Speaker 3: because this is another one. This is a Telegram one
Speaker 3: hashtag free RESI. These reservations fell between seven and nine pm,
Speaker 3: and they targeted in demand tables at Michelin Star restaurants
Speaker 3: like Bles Bardin and you know TikTok's favorite Saint Theo's,
Speaker 3: So they're going for the ones that are really popular.
Speaker 3: There were seven hundred people in the group when it
Speaker 3: was shut down, including band members from The Chain Smokers
Speaker 3: and Lost King.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I will never listen to them again.
Speaker 3: Now, listen, when's the last time you've been in a
Speaker 3: Walgeren Is? That's the only time we hear the Chain Smokers.
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody at a party like put on them? Chain Smokers?
Speaker 1: What was their song?
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I couldn't. I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you. It's like one of them everybody
Speaker 3: It take bab type song.
Speaker 2: You know, if it came on, I'd be singing it
Speaker 2: every oh.
Speaker 3: For sure, because we've heard it everywhere that we went, Okay,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna hear a commercial for a bank without
Speaker 3: the change. You know it's out there. It's crazy. It's
Speaker 3: funny to me that they couldn't get reservations. So they
Speaker 3: were also in there so many restaurants were still like
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, requiring you to show a vaccination
Speaker 3: card when you showed up to dine. Right, and maitre
Speaker 3: GeSe noticed that the reservation name and the vaccine card
Speaker 3: were different. So remember when I brought up earlier that
Speaker 3: I was miss Wang. Everybody can't be miss Wang, especially
Speaker 3: if your vaccination card is not the same. So Resi
Speaker 3: deleted people's accounts so they So there were people who
Speaker 3: created the telegram right our finance bros. Their names were
Speaker 3: Cold sal and Steve. I don't really need to give
Speaker 3: them too much credit. That's all we need to know
Speaker 3: about them. But Resie was like, y'all gotta go bitious,
Speaker 3: so deleted all of their accounts that they were using
Speaker 3: to get these reservations, including ones that they use for
Speaker 3: themselves personally. So now they can't even use rezzine no more.
Speaker 3: They gonna got kicked off, they banned, getting banned from a.
Speaker 2: Reservation website, Like can we all be so serious and
Speaker 2: for real?
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna wrap it up with something that is
Speaker 3: like a little bit of a pivot.
Speaker 1: But before I do, I do want to let.
Speaker 3: You know that Steve and Cole have comment when they
Speaker 3: got deleted from Rezie. Right, So Steve said, there's always
Speaker 3: going to be drawbacks when you disrupt something.
Speaker 1: Of course you call the disruption.
Speaker 2: Loser.
Speaker 1: Loser.
Speaker 2: You got caught, so actually you're a loser.
Speaker 1: Also, what do you mean disrupt?
Speaker 3: Like the word is such a weird, douchey term that
Speaker 3: if I'm sorry, ladies, gentlemen, daising them's. If you ever
Speaker 3: on a date with somebody they tell you they're a disruptor,
Speaker 3: you better run your ass up out of there, okay,
Speaker 3: because what do you mean?
Speaker 2: They're not disrupting a rally, a far right rally, You're
Speaker 2: disrupting a reservation website.
Speaker 3: Like by disrupting, all you're doing is making the prices
Speaker 3: more expensive. Like Uber called themselves disruptors when they first started.
Speaker 3: What Uber did was they got a fuck ton of
Speaker 3: VC capitalists to invest in the company so that they
Speaker 3: could operate at a loss long enough to outprice everybody else.
Speaker 3: So it was like they were so cheap that all
Speaker 3: these other companies were out of business.
Speaker 1: The cab drivers started killing themselves in New York.
Speaker 3: Like it was real shit, because cab drivers had like medallions,
Speaker 3: and those things were a billion dollars to own your cab,
Speaker 3: and like I felt bad for them, but I also
Speaker 3: didn't feel bad because I've been hit by too many
Speaker 3: cabs in New York City. And when I say clipped,
Speaker 3: like clipped, like I opened the door and I'm leaving
Speaker 3: my job.
Speaker 1: It's like four am. I'm like, hey, I gotta go
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: They're like, I'm not going to Brooklyn and they drive
Speaker 3: off the doors still open. I'm like, ah, y'all should
Speaker 3: have been nicer to me, you rag me bitches.
Speaker 1: But like that's what disrupting is.
Speaker 3: It's like subjugating the market and then making yourselves a
Speaker 3: monopoly to where now Uber's like, who else you gonna
Speaker 3: get a ride with?
Speaker 1: It's us or a dui ho.
Speaker 3: So do you want to pay one hundred and eighty
Speaker 3: three dollars to go four blocks up this road home?
Speaker 1: Or would you like to be in jail or worse?
Speaker 2: Do you know about empowered? Do you guys have empower here?
Speaker 1: No? But I want it now? What is I need
Speaker 1: to get out of this hole that Uber got on me?
Speaker 2: It's it empowers the driver so they make more money apparently,
Speaker 2: or they get like a bigger cut of whatever the
Speaker 2: ride is, but it's not like regulated by anyone. So
Speaker 2: sometimes you'll get one guy that's like maybe fucked up
Speaker 2: or it's not the best, but it's cheap.
Speaker 3: It's cheap also, so sometimes it might be risks that
Speaker 3: we need to take and for what For what the
Speaker 3: drivers get on Uber. If I have a driver who's
Speaker 3: like nice and saying typically I do this with women,
Speaker 3: or like black cars that I know like are very expensive.
Speaker 3: If I really fuck with them, I'm like, hey, what's
Speaker 3: your phone number, because i'll office with I have business, Yes,
Speaker 3: and then you can drive me around the city, because
Speaker 3: now we're both getting our money's worth.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So but I hate that we have to do that,
Speaker 3: and also I hate the risk involved in that because
Speaker 3: now I really I'm just getting in a car with
Speaker 3: a stranger with no accountability for what happens to me
Speaker 3: because there's no app tracking it. Even though Uber doesn't
Speaker 3: allow once you sign up for Uber, they don't allow
Speaker 3: you to do like public court, like if you want
Speaker 3: to assue, you have to do private arbitration.
Speaker 1: Really, yes, And what.
Speaker 3: That does is it shields Uber from the responsibility of
Speaker 3: the public knowing what's happened in certain cars. Or even
Speaker 3: statistics on you know, assault or or the driver being
Speaker 3: intoxicated or whatever the case. But I have a sneaking
Speaker 3: scam suspicion because every now and then Uber will send
Speaker 3: out an email that's like, if you'll drive a drunk,
Speaker 3: let us know, And I'm like, this, this is the
Speaker 3: last thing I should be getting from the taxi service.
Speaker 1: With your driver smoking crack support.
Speaker 2: You can tell us.
Speaker 3: It's not happening, but we just want to sure they
Speaker 3: not smoking crackings.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about why we ask him. I'm a little confusion.
Speaker 3: But so the DMV is also having a scalping issue,
Speaker 3: and this wraps up our episode. I just wanted to
Speaker 3: briefly touch on the fact that some states have passed
Speaker 3: legislation attempting to stop this kind of reservation scalping and
Speaker 3: to dismantle third party reservation services like appointment Trader. So
Speaker 3: appointment Trader wasn't just doing restaurant appointment trading.
Speaker 2: They were big on the scene.
Speaker 1: They said, they said, you need a DMV appointment.
Speaker 2: They don't want to wait appointment trader.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine a scalper at the DMV pulling that
Speaker 3: little deli ticket and just like rolling it out, take
Speaker 3: it all the spots.
Speaker 2: It's wild.
Speaker 3: But New York was the first to shout out to
Speaker 3: mom Donnie stand. New York was the first to pass
Speaker 3: the Restaurant Reservation Anti Piracy Act, which bans third parties
Speaker 3: from selling restaurant reservations without the restaurant's consent. The law
Speaker 3: went into effect mid February, and California is working on
Speaker 3: this same.
Speaker 2: Thing, wasting our time. There are other issues we need
Speaker 2: to be working way.
Speaker 1: Why is there now?
Speaker 2: We got to make an act. We got to make
Speaker 2: an act right.
Speaker 1: We need healthcare?
Speaker 3: Why why are y'all bothering my my legislators with.
Speaker 2: With DMVs Reservation Act? Oh my god, that's crazy. I
Speaker 2: feel you imagining this was so informative and amazing.
Speaker 3: Thank you, And you know, I'm hoping that people can
Speaker 3: get what they deserve. And Florida, the DMV scalpers led
Speaker 3: to people waiting in line overnight to renew their driver's licenses.
Speaker 3: That's how bad it got because they couldn't afford to
Speaker 3: scalp their way into the DMV. And the scalpers have
Speaker 3: been selling these appointments from twenty five dollars to two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars to go to the DMV to
Speaker 3: pay the DMV money so that you can drive. Otherwise
Speaker 3: you got to sleep outside like you're trying to give
Speaker 3: concert tickets in the eighties.
Speaker 2: I don't understand how that was happening there.
Speaker 1: Because I mean, it's Flora, It's the wild wild West.
Speaker 3: But it's been happening in Florida, New York, California, major
Speaker 3: cities where I think DMB appointments are even harder to
Speaker 3: get because our populations are so dense and everybody's going
Speaker 3: at the same time, you know, either before work or after.
Speaker 3: This is why I love being an actor, because I
Speaker 3: can go random times of the day sometimes, which is
Speaker 3: a blessing. But yeah, like, victims in Miami have filed
Speaker 3: a class action lawsuit against the Florida Department at Highway
Speaker 3: Safety and Motor Vehicles since scalping DMV appointments is technically
Speaker 3: obviously illegal. But I can't imagine having to make a
Speaker 3: class action lawsuit because I need to go to the
Speaker 3: worst government place on earth world, Like if Disneyland is
Speaker 3: the best place on worth, the DMV is the worst.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I just had a really good experience at the DMV,
Speaker 2: I got a real id. We're laughing. I'm laughing with
Speaker 2: the lady at the counter, laughing with the camera lady.
Speaker 2: Everyone was in good spirits.
Speaker 1: Cool, that's beautiful, that's beautiful. That's what I like to see.
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