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Speaker 1: start off with the event of the Evening. Bubba Wallace
Speaker 1: becomes just the second black Driver. To ever win a
Speaker 1: NASCAR race. He won the Brickyard FO one hundred, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: And this is not just any race. This is what
Speaker 1: they call and golf they have the Slams. In tennis
Speaker 1: they have the Slam uh And in race car they
Speaker 1: call it the Slam and sometimes they call it the
Speaker 1: Crown Jewel. So Daytona that is their biggest race, that
Speaker 1: is their super Bowl. Then you have the Brickyard excuse me.
Speaker 1: Then you have the Coca Cola six hundred, which is
Speaker 1: in Charlotte. Then Labor Day, you have Darlington and this
Speaker 1: is the Brickyard that held it Indy. So he won
Speaker 1: one of the Crown Jewels. He won one of the Slams.
Speaker 1: So Wendell Scott was the first black NASCAR driver. He
Speaker 1: was the first black driver to actually win a race.
Speaker 1: And the NASCAR circuit when it was I think it
Speaker 1: was probably Winston Cup back then.
Speaker 2: But Bubba Wallace, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I had him on Club Shay Shay Minty a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago when I first started, and he was
Speaker 1: he was amazing, and I know he was excited to
Speaker 1: drive for the Jordan Xcel team with him and Dennett
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan Denny Hamlin co owned this.
Speaker 2: Team and Bubba Wallace.
Speaker 1: He finally gets in the victory lane at a big
Speaker 1: time event and very very pleased from Ojo, What did
Speaker 1: you follow any of this big NASCAR fan?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm somewhat of a big NASCAR fan.
Speaker 4: I've been down to Carolinea and I've been down to
Speaker 4: Daytona multiple times.
Speaker 3: To go to races.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: It's a great, great moment, great historical moment for Bubba Wallace.
Speaker 4: Congratulations to him and his team on this achievement. But
Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of people that that
Speaker 4: don't don't really appreciate NASCAR because they view it as
Speaker 4: and just cars going in circles, but obviously not understanding
Speaker 4: that there's a method of the madness there.
Speaker 2: There there at strategy.
Speaker 3: A lot of strategy that goes into it.
Speaker 4: And again, like other sports that people don't watch, you'll
Speaker 4: never understand it until you are actually in that atmosphere
Speaker 4: and you're able to experience what it's like. For For one,
Speaker 4: me being in Daytona and sitting in those stands with
Speaker 4: those ear plugs in it does something to me. It
Speaker 4: just does something to you, even if you don't enjoy
Speaker 4: that actual sport itself. But listen, you for those of
Speaker 4: you that a in the chat, that are listening, just
Speaker 4: give it a chance. Give give a Nascar chance. Go there, enjoy,
Speaker 4: sit outside the atmosphere and feel the power of the engines.
Speaker 3: That just that that it's hard.
Speaker 4: It's hard for me to even put it in the
Speaker 4: words and explain it to you because it's just something
Speaker 4: that you have to experience it on itself. It's like
Speaker 4: it's like it's like going to the to the roller
Speaker 4: coaster ride, you know, riding the roller coaster and then
Speaker 4: try and explain to someone else what it's like.
Speaker 2: You know, you have to be there. You have to
Speaker 2: experience it for you got to.
Speaker 3: You got to.
Speaker 4: So for those of you watch him and at some point,
Speaker 4: just if you have a track near you, just go
Speaker 4: experience Nascar man, and you you get a better understanding.
Speaker 4: Even if you don't like cars going in circles, you
Speaker 4: will enjoy that experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know their teams and you know you you
Speaker 1: try to pull your teammate along.
Speaker 2: You know you're trying not to.
Speaker 1: You know what how you gonna how do you set
Speaker 1: how you're gonna set the race up. Uh if you
Speaker 1: can get to the front and you can slow it down,
Speaker 1: you know, certain things like that. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Bubba has gone through a lot. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: like I said, it's kind of like with anything that
Speaker 1: when you are the when they're not a whole lot
Speaker 1: of you kind of like Tiger with and and golf,
Speaker 1: they're not there were not a whole lot of Tiger Woods. Uh.
Speaker 2: He had, you know, Calvin Pete and Charlie Sifferd.
Speaker 1: And and dent to to follow uh uh to follow
Speaker 1: and and I think Bubba only had I think Wendell Scott.
Speaker 1: That's the only one off the top of my head
Speaker 1: is that it's Wendell Scott back in the sixties and
Speaker 1: in the early seventies. But for Bubba to win Run
Speaker 1: of the Crown Jewels, one of the Slams, and I
Speaker 1: know how bad he wants to win Daytona because that's
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, and NASCAR is one of the few
Speaker 1: events that have their super Bowl at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season. Most people have their their most important at
Speaker 1: the end of the even you have the World Series,
Speaker 1: you have the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: You have uh uh the NBA Finals. Uh.
Speaker 1: But in NASCAR Daytona. Their biggest rates is that if
Speaker 1: they first rate. But for Bubba to win the Brickyard, obviously,
Speaker 1: he was extremely excited. I watched him afterwards and you know,
Speaker 1: you talk about how he talked to Jordan, and Jordan
Speaker 1: say he was extremely proud of him, and.
Speaker 2: He's gonna have a couple of drinks for him.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Bubba's gonna have a couple of drinks
Speaker 1: on his own, because that's a that's a huge honor. Nobody,
Speaker 1: no other black and everyone on the big Oval at Indy,
Speaker 1: Like I said, that's who man, that's that's that's a
Speaker 1: huge honor. Hotel, that's a huge honor. And I'm extremely
Speaker 1: proud for Bubba. Like I said, I had an opportunity
Speaker 1: to talk to him, and you know, I know he
Speaker 1: wants to do well and and he had some had
Speaker 1: some lean years, Yes, had some lean years. Uh, things
Speaker 1: weren't going his way, you know, d n P and
Speaker 1: things of that nature. Wasn't finishing in the top ten.
Speaker 1: But hopefully they've kind of got this thing turned around
Speaker 1: and they can be serious for the rest of the year,
Speaker 1: getting to the final uh, you know, getting to the
Speaker 1: the NASCAR playoffs and hood who knows, but that would
Speaker 1: be that would be that would be a huge honor
Speaker 1: if he could win.
Speaker 2: If he can win the cup, boy, hey, boy.
Speaker 4: Boy boy, listen about talk about making history. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: making history.
Speaker 2: That Yeah, well what dayton is done with.
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about you know, because you know now
Speaker 1: what they do is that they have the NASCAR Playoff
Speaker 1: and so you get accumulated enough play and then you
Speaker 1: get in there and each week they will people off. Well,
Speaker 1: now you drop and now they drop, and then it
Speaker 1: comes down to you know, hey, it might come down
Speaker 1: to the last race. We're only a handful of people,
Speaker 1: maybe two or three guys have a realistic chance of
Speaker 1: winning the race. And so uh, that's that would be
Speaker 1: that I think. You know, obviously Daytona is the biggest,
Speaker 1: but if you can win the you can win the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But I'm extremely I'm extremely excited for bubb. But he
Speaker 1: went through some things last year. You remember the news
Speaker 1: incident that happened and there was a big hullabaloo about
Speaker 1: that and they said it was a pull where people
Speaker 1: would pull the garage door down. It just made like that.
Speaker 1: He didn't think so, but he seems to be on
Speaker 1: the right track now. And it's about racing, because that's
Speaker 1: what it comes down to. It's about winning. And I
Speaker 1: think Michael Jordan and Denny Hamler is giving him a
Speaker 1: great car to drive. NASCAR is very competitive. It's a
Speaker 1: very expensive sporty you know.
Speaker 4: And hey, the more you win, right, the better the sponsors.
Speaker 4: I know you got in here, I got Mike, I
Speaker 4: know you got brother brother.
Speaker 2: Hamlin, right, yeah, Denny Hamler.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but listen, the more you win the sponsors,
Speaker 4: the more money that you're allowed to pour into your
Speaker 4: car when he allowed to pour into your car, the
Speaker 4: better performing car you get, right.
Speaker 3: So I mean that's a whole nother story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you got you know, you got Joe Gibbs,
Speaker 1: and you got Jack Roush, and you got Penske and
Speaker 1: you got Rick Hendricks. Rick Hendricks is the big guy,
Speaker 1: that big man, you know, and those guys are based
Speaker 1: out of all those guys, you know. Charlotte is the
Speaker 1: NASCAR capital. That's where the NASCAR Hall of Fame is
Speaker 1: located up there in Morrisville and Mechanicsville and Cannapolis. That's
Speaker 1: where all the guys have their garages and and and
Speaker 1: you know, do their testing up there.
Speaker 2: But this is a huge on.
Speaker 1: I'm extremely proud for Bubba Wallace and hopefully he can
Speaker 1: keep it going. I'm extremely happy for Michael Jordan and
Speaker 1: Denny Hamlin because like you said, oh ho, the more
Speaker 1: you win, the more sponsors. Because this is not this
Speaker 1: is not this is not a cheap.
Speaker 3: It's not easy either. No, it's not easy either. I
Speaker 3: don't I don't think.
Speaker 4: I wish, I wish I I could talk NASCAR the
Speaker 4: pacifics on what it takes like I talk, I can
Speaker 4: talk football, or I can talk soccer, I can talk boxing.
Speaker 4: But how you have to strategize yourself like he's running
Speaker 4: the eight hundred. You have to strategize yourself like he
Speaker 4: running the four hundred. You know, like you said, just
Speaker 4: go out there on step on the pedal and just
Speaker 4: you know this, you got to worry about gas, gotta
Speaker 4: worry about hires like it.
Speaker 3: It's so much that goes into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, outside how much you know, how what is the
Speaker 1: what is the fuel? How many? How many laps can
Speaker 1: we go? Are we if it comes down to it,
Speaker 1: are we going to push?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because if we.
Speaker 1: Push it, there's a chance on the final lap we run.
Speaker 1: We we we've seen that happen before. My teammates. Hey, guys, hey,
Speaker 1: let's find somebody. Let's draft. You know, Bubba was telling
Speaker 1: me how they cut the engine and cost and then
Speaker 1: fire back up to go again. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of strategy. Like you said, you just don't step on
Speaker 1: the cast of the gas. Let's okay, let's go around
Speaker 1: the track as fast as we can. We don't want
Speaker 1: to blow the engine. That's what testing for. You get
Speaker 1: an idea of how the tires are burning. Uh, the
Speaker 1: type of track, what's going on? Am I gonna stay lower?
Speaker 1: Am I gonna get high? What's the best well, you know,
Speaker 1: what's the best time to pass? Where's the best areas
Speaker 1: the past? There's so much going on.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you drift, you know, you know about drift draft drafting.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to play.
Speaker 4: Play on uh on uh with that PlayStation play such
Speaker 4: a Xbox one of them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and then you get guys the bunk drafted
Speaker 1: where they draft you're hitching the bunk, move you out
Speaker 1: the way, nigg and now they go.
Speaker 3: They shoot right by you like a sling shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you sleep, that's that's the move they called they
Speaker 1: call it a sleep shot, you know, but it's it's
Speaker 1: very competitive and sometimes guys, hey you spent my I
Speaker 1: forgot what you did last time you spent me.
Speaker 2: I almost spind your ass out. Uh. I think that
Speaker 2: was seventy nine when it was who was it? Was it?
Speaker 1: Kill Yarborough and Bobby Allison got into it and Richard
Speaker 1: Petty it's been that ended up passing on the last
Speaker 1: light that that ended up he got number seven?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 3: Boy? It's been some epics fights in NASCAR, boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. They throw hands. Ah,
Speaker 1: you wrecked me, you wrecked my all? Yeah, they throw
Speaker 1: they throw heads in Nascar. Yeah, So congratulations, Bubba oh choe.
Speaker 1: Our NFL plans to find more than one hundred players
Speaker 1: in roughly two dozen club employees who were found to
Speaker 1: be in violation of the NFL Tickets Resale Policy for
Speaker 1: reselling Super Bowl tickets at a profit. Under agreement between
Speaker 1: the league and NFL Players Association, players who violated rules
Speaker 1: will be fined one and a half times the phase
Speaker 1: value of the ticket and lose their a lot of
Speaker 1: tickets to the next two Super Bowls if they're playing
Speaker 1: in the game, players will have a chance to purchase seats.
Speaker 1: Those who declined. Punishment could be suspended by Commissioner Roger
Speaker 1: good Day.
Speaker 3: But that's tough. That's tough.
Speaker 4: You know, it's unfortunate for those players. But I don't
Speaker 4: mean to say it, but that's been going on for
Speaker 4: a very long time. But you ain't hear it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I'm not telling what I heard. I'm telling you
Speaker 4: what I know. And we're not to talk about players.
Speaker 4: You know, we talked about even those that sitting higher
Speaker 4: positions have always sold their tickets for profit. This is
Speaker 4: nothing new. I think there's the way the clamp down
Speaker 4: on it. Maybe it's getting out of control now based
Speaker 4: on what the players are making from a profitable standpoint,
Speaker 4: But with the money they're making these days, the players
Speaker 4: is probably sending the tickets are those that don't make
Speaker 4: as much as others. If if you understand what I'm saying, I.
Speaker 2: Do get Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is, oh chose Look the reason
Speaker 1: why they increased face value of the tickets because they
Speaker 1: find out they will scalffling them. And they says, well,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna pay five thousand dollars on the resale,
Speaker 1: we might as well go and put them at five
Speaker 1: thousand face value. If you're gonna pay that on the
Speaker 1: secondary market, you might as well play this on the
Speaker 1: primary market. And so and plus you have to understand, y'all,
Speaker 1: do realize the NFL know the lot number, the seating section.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they know all of it everything. But this is
Speaker 3: the first time. It's so funny.
Speaker 2: Been cracking down on that every Super Bowl though.
Speaker 4: This has been going on every Super Bowl, but who
Speaker 4: knows how long even without Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you would plan.
Speaker 4: But that's why are they cracking down on it this
Speaker 4: year specifically, why all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: I'm just curious.
Speaker 1: Because of you man, You're getting the FBI involved, because
Speaker 1: people ain't paying taxes because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: are it's gonna want they cut on Joe. See that's
Speaker 1: where you run a file aft because you sold something, okay,
Speaker 1: Ucas Sam said, where my cut right right right? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: uncle Sam, I'm gonna won't hit cut. And the NFL
Speaker 1: has been trying to crack down on this. They look,
Speaker 1: you want to go to the game. That says, look,
Speaker 1: you might as well just go ahead and come through
Speaker 1: us and pay I think the face value ticket when
Speaker 1: I was playing was probably three twenty five four hundred.
Speaker 1: They got face value tickets not probably the cheapest ticket
Speaker 1: to get in probably fifteen hundred and two thousand, and
Speaker 1: then it goes from there two thousand, three thirty five
Speaker 1: hundred four thousand, fifty yard line seats. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, if you get a suite, might be anywhere
Speaker 1: from a million to two two and a half million
Speaker 1: dollars considering where is position on the field. But I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised because I kind of saw the direction once
Speaker 1: they started up in the price to what the resellers.
Speaker 2: Would get for same said tickets.
Speaker 1: So I'm really I'm really not surprised, o yo, that
Speaker 1: they're gonna crack down, because look, the NFL.
Speaker 2: Is a business, always has been, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: like if you.
Speaker 1: Run a restaurant, if you don't cleanse, keep a closed town,
Speaker 1: somebody they're gonna give your alcohol and they're gonna give
Speaker 1: your food a weight because they're gonna have their homeboys
Speaker 1: or their homegirl come sit at the bar and they're
Speaker 1: gonna drink for fresh and they gonna come in there
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get they're gonna get meals and they're
Speaker 1: gonna get that for free, and if you're not careful,
Speaker 1: they'll be giving some of your prime good stuff out
Speaker 1: the back door. So the NFL says, you know what,
Speaker 1: we're finna crack down on this now. Were donna let
Speaker 1: it slide, and we probably they probably told them about yo.
Speaker 1: You know, they first come around at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year.
Speaker 4: Down a little bit now and they they had a
Speaker 4: little bit more seasoned on it. Okay, yeah, yeah, y'all
Speaker 4: getting out of control.
Speaker 1: Because they're like, hold on, man, Kansas City, ooh, going
Speaker 1: for the three per oh the take it back man.
Speaker 2: They got they got the Eagles, Jayla hurt.
Speaker 4: You could double charge that. You could throw you see
Speaker 4: them for double maybe yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're probably selling those. And you know, you
Speaker 2: got good.
Speaker 1: Seats, especially if you, if you, if you and if
Speaker 1: you were one of the teams that are in it,
Speaker 1: you got great seats at least uh eight of the
Speaker 1: fifteen because I think I think they gave you know,
Speaker 1: you got it, you got two comps and then you
Speaker 1: got it you bought the other thirteen. Eight were really
Speaker 1: good seats and then seven. I mean, look, you're in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So they they like they was way
Speaker 1: way up there.
Speaker 2: But they were.
Speaker 1: They were decent seats. But you can you know, but
Speaker 1: things are different now with YO, things are different than that.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing that I will say is
Speaker 1: that time changes. You must be willing to adapt to
Speaker 1: the changing of the times. You can't say like you
Speaker 1: and that we came up man, oh jo. They've been
Speaker 1: doing this from the beginning of the time.
Speaker 2: Yet they did.
Speaker 1: But they're cracking down on it now and they're cracking
Speaker 1: your head. And because they tried to what they tried
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: Oho.
Speaker 1: It used to be you could like, hey, man, you're
Speaker 1: going you're using your Super Bowl tickets? Nah, Hey can
Speaker 1: I get them? Hey such and such a give my ticke,
Speaker 1: give my two super Bow tickets to.
Speaker 3: Go pick them up too. They can pick them up up, yep.
Speaker 3: I remember that.
Speaker 1: Now they don't put a situation where like you got
Speaker 1: to come pick the tickets up. They won't let they
Speaker 1: don't let you transferm as easily. And you know, it
Speaker 1: used to be, well, I believe your ticket that will call.
Speaker 4: Nah.
Speaker 1: They don't do that anymore. So basically you got to
Speaker 1: have the tickets in hand.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Well, no, they digitally where they used to have you know,
Speaker 1: you had to have tickets in hand. Now they mainly
Speaker 1: do it digitally, uh scan and they don't want you
Speaker 1: transferring the tickets. So it's and I get you're right.
Speaker 1: The guys probably some of the guys that are doing this,
Speaker 1: they're not the guys that's making twenty thirty forty million
Speaker 1: dollars a year.
Speaker 2: They're probably guys that get you know, you know, or the.
Speaker 1: Practice squad trying to make it change. You know, eighteen
Speaker 1: little eighteen thousand dollars for two tickets, that good little
Speaker 1: to hold.
Speaker 3: Joke quick and listen.
Speaker 4: You people have to understand too when you think about
Speaker 4: the NFL or how the hell they know what players
Speaker 4: did it. NFL knows everything now. Not only do they
Speaker 4: know the tickets, they know everything everything.
Speaker 3: They know what.
Speaker 4: Everybody is doing on all thirty two teams, who they
Speaker 4: hang with, where they live, where they spend, where they go,
Speaker 4: where they shut down everything. Do people understand that the
Speaker 4: NFL does their homework so diligently, well, now, only before
Speaker 4: you make it, even while.
Speaker 3: You're still in it.
Speaker 4: Man, they went back and talked to my elementary teacher
Speaker 4: on my elementary teacher. Why are you talking to my
Speaker 4: elementary teacher about what I did in elementary? I wasn't
Speaker 4: even the same chat back then.
Speaker 2: They also Joe like tickets.
Speaker 1: Well that's why if you have season tickets, you gotta
Speaker 1: be careful who you let sit in those seats because
Speaker 1: they act a food. Not only do they throw them out,
Speaker 1: now they take your season tickets. Remember how that the
Speaker 1: Detroit fan. Who that the Detroit fan that got into
Speaker 1: it and they took it season tickets.
Speaker 4: Oh that's right. He was right screaming at the coach,
Speaker 4: screaming at the yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, So they know because they got it allotted. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals, they got this a lot bit of tickets.
Speaker 1: These are where the section that the Bengal tickets are
Speaker 1: going to be. This is where the Bronco tickets will be.
Speaker 1: This is where Green Bay, this is where this one.
Speaker 1: There is where that one. So they know. Yeah, at
Speaker 1: this point in time, now guys, it is just not
Speaker 1: worth it. Uh, And I get it. Try to pick
Speaker 1: up your a little extra quick cash because you get
Speaker 1: off seven tickets. You're probably looking at it, you know,
Speaker 1: and the problem is you running into ojo. It's ours
Speaker 1: because you're taking cash and you're not paying taxes on
Speaker 1: that money. I under saying one is cut. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it's just like anything alcohol. When they found out
Speaker 1: they could tax it. Now, all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: didn't need the bootleg cigarettes once they could find out
Speaker 1: how to tax it. You didn't need a you didn't
Speaker 1: he you didn't need to smuggle them weed once they
Speaker 1: found out.
Speaker 2: They could tax it. Sure, you see what they did
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 1: Now, if y'all we just come on saying, Uncle Sam,
Speaker 1: I sold you for seventy hairs, you're thirty five. Uncers
Speaker 1: Sam said, do what you do, but you gonna cut Hey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna cut me in the cut it out. Say
Speaker 1: that cut me in the cutting out that Joe said, Joe,
Speaker 1: say cut me in the cutting like that.
Speaker 3: I gotta say that. I like you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, Oh Joe, you know how it is,
Speaker 2: Uncle Sam.
Speaker 1: It don't matter how small man man what Uncus Sam
Speaker 1: want thirty five dollars? Fuck it, same reason you want
Speaker 1: to hold thirty five. He wanted to seventeen and a half.
Speaker 3: In a minute, boy.
Speaker 2: He gonna get it.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 1: Don't play with Uncle Sam. Now you can play with
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't play with him.
Speaker 3: Oh listen, then people don't play.
Speaker 1: They don't. I done got audited it for a dollar.
Speaker 1: I got audited. I got audited it one time.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: And the envelope that they're sending there, it costs more
Speaker 1: than what I what I owed. It was just the principle,
Speaker 1: right right, right, right man, dot don't play with them
Speaker 1: people a bout that money because because a lot of time,
Speaker 1: they know everything. Because every what you got in your account,
Speaker 1: and they'll let that interest draw.
Speaker 2: Now the thing that you will have to learn about
Speaker 2: Uncle Sam.
Speaker 1: Uncle Sam is never gonna give you the interest on
Speaker 1: your money when he late that he's gonna charge you
Speaker 1: for when you leave.
Speaker 2: So he already know and they'll let that thing go.
Speaker 1: Say oh man, now he can't pay Let me come
Speaker 1: on in, let me make an example out of him,
Speaker 1: because they want the high profile. Because if they get
Speaker 1: the high profile, it's like, well, hell, he had millions
Speaker 1: and they did something bad, what they're gonna do to me?
Speaker 1: Just go ahead, just go ahead and pay them people
Speaker 1: their money to leave Uncle Sam alone because Uncle Sam
Speaker 1: don't play by his But I'm not surprised that they
Speaker 1: took this because I kind of being close to the
Speaker 1: situation and hearing kind of felt they were kind of
Speaker 1: headed this heading.
Speaker 2: And this the wrest that.
Speaker 1: I remember when they implemented this oho they were going
Speaker 1: to the three and the two and the three and
Speaker 1: the four thousand dollars face value ticket, the ten thousand
Speaker 1: dollars face value ticket. Because they found out people was
Speaker 1: willing to pay that. They said, man, why they charge man,
Speaker 1: why they charge ten thousand dollars for some chrome hard jeans?
Speaker 2: Because people are paid for it.
Speaker 1: That's why, the same reason they charged one thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for a stake.
Speaker 2: People are paying for it. And if people are.
Speaker 1: Paid for it, there'll be somebody is there to provide
Speaker 1: whatever service is needed. You want a tank, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: need a tank. It's gonna cost you five get me
Speaker 1: the tank. You need a bozooka, you need a missile.
Speaker 1: Whatever you need, somebody will will be able to fill
Speaker 1: that need. Man, Oh Joe, I need you on the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl tickets. Okay, hey, man, such and such need
Speaker 1: two on the Super Bowl tickets. Well, let me go
Speaker 1: to a couple of different teams.
Speaker 2: Boom boom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 1: Boom, I got you, NFL Sai, Nah, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: away with this. If you want to go watch one
Speaker 1: of our one of our events, you're gonna have the
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to come through.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to come through.
Speaker 4: To pay because all that all that, all that value
Speaker 4: and that money that's being made is going back to them.
Speaker 1: How you think they pay each team four hundred thirty
Speaker 1: two million, six hundred thousand, and you would think, like, man,
Speaker 1: what the NFL care about?
Speaker 2: Five thousand, ten thousand and fifteen.
Speaker 4: Thousand adds up? It all adds up, no matter how
Speaker 4: small it is.
Speaker 3: It adds up.
Speaker 2: Pennies make dollars.
Speaker 3: You ain't got to tell me twice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if it make dollars, it makes sense with
Speaker 2: a C and with a S. So yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'm not surprised that they're taking this thing, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad they kept it anonymous. You don't know, because
Speaker 1: if it's somebody is bad, the last thing you will
Speaker 1: owe your is somebody that's making uh fifty million and
Speaker 1: it's selling two two boat take it for twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad. Hopefully they get this thing resolved.
Speaker 1: And you see you know, hey, they know everything, literally,
Speaker 1: they know everything they know about the gambling because they're
Speaker 1: gonna turn look the draft kings and the and the
Speaker 1: bets and the this and the that. They want to
Speaker 1: be able to still be able to bet on football
Speaker 1: and basketball and baseball. If you think for one second
Speaker 1: they're not gonna turn your ass in.
Speaker 3: Yees, phone numbers, emails, anything tracking back to you and.
Speaker 2: Any irregularities, because that's what they're looking for. Hen why
Speaker 2: do the man keep betting the unknown? No boy, man?
Speaker 2: Why he man?
Speaker 1: He ain't finished the game yet. Let me let me
Speaker 1: make no to that day they who something ain't adding up?
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Before Aaron Rodgers signed with the Steelers, former Steelers great
Speaker 1: quarterback Super Bowl winning quarterback Terry Bradshaw called the move
Speaker 1: a joke. Terry added, what are you gonna do? Bring
Speaker 1: him in for one year? Are you kidding me? That
Speaker 1: guy needs to stay in California. Go somewhere you on
Speaker 1: bark and whisper to the gods out there. Rogers responded
Speaker 1: this week, saying, I whisper to the gods every single day.
Speaker 1: He's got an idea of what he thinks about me
Speaker 1: based on what I've done the documentary what said, what said,
Speaker 1: Darkness Retreat, whatever the hell you want to talk about.
Speaker 1: I love to get to know Terry on a deeper level.
Speaker 1: I feel like he gave me a chance to get
Speaker 1: to know him. Then we have a good friendship. Oh y'all,
Speaker 1: honest assessment. Yeah, what do you expect from Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: this year? And what do you expect from the Steelers
Speaker 1: this year?
Speaker 4: Listen, Aaron Rodgers only has to do one thing, facilitate
Speaker 4: the ball and do his best not to make mistakes.
Speaker 4: That's all he has to do. You got DK, That's
Speaker 4: one nice target. Defensively aware, the Steelers are going to
Speaker 4: win football games. We just need Aaron Rodgers to manage
Speaker 4: the games and be a game manager, a moniker that
Speaker 4: most people see as an insult, which it is not.
Speaker 3: And don't turn the ball over.
Speaker 4: Defense will take care of the rest, because that's where
Speaker 4: the Steelers identity is now.
Speaker 3: From now on, the.
Speaker 2: Best players on that side of the ball is what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 4: And if we can get flashes, if we can get
Speaker 4: flashes and brilliants of the old Aaron Rodgers, so be it,
Speaker 4: thank you. But the people on offense are going to
Speaker 4: have to be the one to uplift Aaron Rodgers because
Speaker 4: he's not the same quarterback he used to be where
Speaker 4: he canough lift everyone else around him. It's completely opposite.
Speaker 1: Now, I agree with you, I agree with everything that
Speaker 1: you said. You look at their best player. They're on
Speaker 1: that side of the ball, the defense side of the ball.
Speaker 1: You look at TJ. Watt, you look at Cam Hayward,
Speaker 1: you look at Jalen Ramsey, you look at Darius Slay,
Speaker 1: Joey Porter Jr.
Speaker 2: Their best players are on that side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Crazy and so Aaron just needs to be And Aaron
Speaker 1: has never been a heavy turnover guy. Now, he threw
Speaker 1: double digit interceptions, but that's not normally Aaron's I think
Speaker 1: he only has a maybe two or three seasons in
Speaker 1: which he's had double digit turnover interceptions. He's gonna We've
Speaker 1: seen him throw four interceptions over the course of a season.
Speaker 1: We've seen him throw five interceptions, six interceptions over the
Speaker 1: course of the seasons. He's normally very very good with
Speaker 1: the ball. And that is the Aaron Rodgers. They need
Speaker 1: the old Aaron Rodgers, not an old Aaron Rodgers. And
Speaker 1: if he can give them that, give them that level
Speaker 1: of consistency. I think they're gonna be in every game.
Speaker 1: If you think you're gonna just go in there and
Speaker 1: blow the doors off there, that ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 3: That ain't happen. I know that, listen.
Speaker 4: I know the names look good on paper, but all
Speaker 4: the players that they've acquired are proven not on paper
Speaker 4: but on the field.
Speaker 3: So you get those type of.
Speaker 4: Players Jalen Ramsey and Daris Slaves, the Joey Porter Jr.
Speaker 4: Who is very very good, who doesn't get theirs Because
Speaker 4: everything is always talked about from an offen the standpoint,
Speaker 4: especially referring to the quarterback position.
Speaker 3: You got t J.
Speaker 4: Watt camp Man. Listen, they gonna be and that def
Speaker 4: is gonna have games. We just need Aaron Rodgers not
Speaker 4: the bottle it.
Speaker 2: They gonna be, all right, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1: Do you believe the Steelers will accept him?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that listen. They're not there to make friends.
Speaker 4: Were not hit it, make frians. We hit it except
Speaker 4: like listen, we here to do one thing. We got
Speaker 4: one singular focus, win and do the best we can.
Speaker 4: They have a good record, a decent enough record to
Speaker 4: make to the playoffs, and from that point on. We
Speaker 4: know it's four games after that.
Speaker 3: That's all it is.
Speaker 4: It becomes a new season four games after Yeah, can
Speaker 4: we get to that point?
Speaker 1: Well, the Steelers have gone to the playoffs, but they
Speaker 1: haven't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen. I think
Speaker 1: that was the year that they ended up beating think
Speaker 1: they beat Kansas City. Remember they went to Kansas City
Speaker 1: and le'byon had that outstanding game and they ended up
Speaker 1: winning that game. But I don't if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, So chat don't hold that against me.
Speaker 1: But I don't think they won a playoff game since
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. That's almost been ten years. O'd joe for
Speaker 1: the Steelers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, he's Steelers.
Speaker 4: The funny thing about it is they haven't it's been
Speaker 4: ten years, but they've had.
Speaker 3: Winning seasons insistently.
Speaker 4: How hard it is to get into the playoffs when
Speaker 4: you're in at AFC, especially that damn division.
Speaker 1: Min Yeah, Look, I think the thing is is that Terry. Look,
Speaker 1: these guys like Terry, Terror's way over mine. Terry was
Speaker 1: the number one over road draft pick in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1: Hell I was born in sixty eight, so two years
Speaker 1: after I was born, Terry was. You know, I came
Speaker 1: in the league in ninety that, so there's at least
Speaker 1: what a twenty year age game. So if i'm if
Speaker 1: I'm fifty seven, terror's got to be seventy seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah, long,
Speaker 1: So he came out, So he had to came out
Speaker 1: if he didn't rent shirt that.
Speaker 2: They weren't rich short like that back then.
Speaker 1: So he came out at twenty one twenty two in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy and it's what nineteen, it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Now that's fifty five. That's fifty five years, So he
Speaker 1: got to be he's gotta be seventy seven, maybe seventy eight.
Speaker 1: Let me you know what, Let me google this, let
Speaker 1: me see how I will tell you. But I think
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to believe he's anything other than that.
Speaker 1: Oh yo, yeah, because like I said, it's.
Speaker 2: A jem brad Shaw.
Speaker 1: He's seventy six more than nineteen forty eight. He'll be
Speaker 1: seventy seven September second. So I'm right on it.
Speaker 3: You on it. It was a mad you're good with
Speaker 3: numbers on.
Speaker 1: Hey, Like I said, I don't think they red shirt
Speaker 1: a whole lot back then, because you know Colin is
Speaker 1: trying to get your answer out of that.
Speaker 2: Hey, they weren't trying to pay for an extra year.
Speaker 1: But I think the thing is is that if you
Speaker 1: look at those old old guys you play football, you
Speaker 1: keep your mind shut.
Speaker 2: You go here, that's old, all that other stuff, it
Speaker 2: annoys them.
Speaker 4: Listen, you just said something earlier when we were talking
Speaker 4: about the Super Bowl tickets and about a thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: some of the old players from that era, back in
Speaker 4: those times, they had a way of doing things.
Speaker 2: But now, yes, we were.
Speaker 3: In the air.
Speaker 4: We've moved on and advance in certain areas, especially the
Speaker 4: game of football.
Speaker 3: Everybody doesn't act that way.
Speaker 4: Everybody's not a robot, and they're approached to the game
Speaker 4: and how they play or see it. So he to
Speaker 4: adapt as well, which many of them haven't.
Speaker 1: No, No, because I think the greatest key is survival.
Speaker 1: Survival is adaptability. And because the players were that way,
Speaker 1: the coaches with that that way, ownership was that way,
Speaker 1: and so they don't.
Speaker 2: See this like role and with Terry, Terry won four.
Speaker 1: Super Bowls in six years, and so he's like, this
Speaker 1: method is tried and true. The less distractions you present
Speaker 1: for the team, the better off. You're gonna be all
Speaker 1: this talking and all. But but that's that's how they
Speaker 1: do it. Because look, some people can you know, can
Speaker 1: party and can hang out, come in at two or
Speaker 1: three in the morning, get two or three out of
Speaker 1: sleep and function just fine. That wasn't what I could do.
Speaker 1: I need to be sleep by ten, ten thirty. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. And some guys can hang
Speaker 1: out and drink and come in. And you just thought
Speaker 1: they got to bed at seven thirty and they didn't
Speaker 1: get to and they might have not got to bed
Speaker 1: the seven thirty that morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the big boys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's but whodos Aaron said?
Speaker 2: And we're just taking him at his word.
Speaker 1: If terror he got to know him on a deeper level,
Speaker 1: gave him a chance, who knows, they might hit it off.
Speaker 1: He might actually like me, because I do think Errand
Speaker 1: is a deep thinker. I think sometimes he does overthink things.
Speaker 1: But hey, man, the old man, ohhow you know how
Speaker 1: it is?
Speaker 2: Man, When the mold people get set, they sitting there
Speaker 2: way little.
Speaker 4: They're not changing that, they're not evolving. They think everything
Speaker 4: works based on how they had success. Well, it worked
Speaker 4: for me, it should work for you, so you should
Speaker 4: be doing it this specific way.
Speaker 3: Nothing.
Speaker 4: They're not good with technology the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1: It's hard when you're only looking through your lens. See,
Speaker 1: Terry only sees things through his lens. And so.
Speaker 2: It's tough.
Speaker 1: It's tough on Joe when you criticize somebody and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they come play for the organization that
Speaker 1: you played for. Now, what works in Terry's favor is
Speaker 1: that Terry is not really around. He's not like rested
Speaker 1: Soul Franco used to be around all the time. Mel
Speaker 1: Blood is around all the time. Terry Terry works something.
Speaker 1: Terry is not around. And unless f half the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a right. So, And like I said,
Speaker 1: I I've been around Terry, you know, worked at that,
Speaker 1: worked at Fox for years and and and and and
Speaker 1: and met Terry. He's a he's a country he's a
Speaker 1: country guy that I.
Speaker 2: Think, what does he have now? He used to have cattle.
Speaker 2: I think he got horses now.
Speaker 3: And you know, he's gonna tell it like it is
Speaker 3: no matter who it is too.
Speaker 4: Huh, Hey, you're gonna you're gonna tell you just like
Speaker 4: Alon said that our word, you're gonna gettee you row
Speaker 4: pause mm h yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he is. And so you know.
Speaker 1: His family, Like I said, I know in the beginning,
Speaker 1: But if I'm not mistaken, I.
Speaker 2: Think Terry has I think he raises quarter horses. Now.
Speaker 1: I know one point in time he had cattle. He
Speaker 1: had beef cattle. Uh, he was in the cattle business.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he still has it. He had,
Speaker 1: you know, big rank, you know he had you know,
Speaker 1: probably I don't know ten thousand.
Speaker 3: Do you ever you ever rode quarter horse before?
Speaker 2: Nah man? We had a pony growing up. We had
Speaker 2: a pony named Ringo. Uh uh.
Speaker 1: I had a cousin had a horse named Lady, who
Speaker 1: is an apple looser, you know, white with the black spots.
Speaker 4: But nah, no, I ride horses. You know, I'm not
Speaker 4: damn davy out there.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Man, you ride horses consistently when I when I have time. Obviously,
Speaker 4: the god damn quarter horse man, they ride. They ride
Speaker 4: like real You could feel every goddamn thing. It's like
Speaker 4: move nothing.
Speaker 2: Man, They look at it. Look now he looking to run,
Speaker 2: don't yo. He look for you to ride.
Speaker 1: You if you want something to ride or you want
Speaker 1: something to ride, say the ride or or the work.
Speaker 1: You need to get a saddle horse. You didn't get
Speaker 1: a horse. That's that's specific. What are the fair bread
Speaker 1: men to do?
Speaker 4: Running is fine, and just the ride is rough. Now
Speaker 4: you can't remember Filipino. I can't remember the name of
Speaker 4: the kind of horses they have in the Dominican Republican
Speaker 4: they're not that big, but it feels like you're riding
Speaker 4: on clouds. They gonna it feel like you know, it's
Speaker 4: so smooth and it's so easy to catch your rhythm.
Speaker 4: Them goddamn quarter horses. Man, you every goddamn even if
Speaker 4: you try, you know, I've been riding, Yes, now can't
Speaker 4: you catch them?
Speaker 2: You try to go with? It is still rough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't remember the kind of horses they have
Speaker 4: in the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 3: Starts with a pee Philip something might have been a Filipino.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, no, I just like you know, just all
Speaker 1: just looking at the horse, the muscular structure, and you're
Speaker 1: looking at an animal that's a thousand pounds, that ankle
Speaker 1: bonus the size of a human.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And that's why they have so much problem a horse.
Speaker 1: You look you look at a horse, an animal that's
Speaker 1: a thousand pounds and the ankles are not much bigger
Speaker 1: than a human.
Speaker 2: That's why they've break so eak.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: That's what you know, that's why, that's why you have
Speaker 1: the problem that you have have And you know a
Speaker 1: lot of times what they do when breaking you, you know,
Speaker 1: you put him down because you're asking him to try
Speaker 1: to put that weight to redistribute that weight. It's sad,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. But uh now, but look, I
Speaker 1: wish you know Terry and and Aaron can get somewhere
Speaker 1: and the conversation. We never hear about it. We never
Speaker 1: hear about it because I don't think we need to
Speaker 1: hear about it. I don't think we need to know
Speaker 1: about it. But I think, you know, there's some things
Speaker 1: that you know, Terry would probably want to share with Aaron,
Speaker 1: and Aaron would want to share with Terry, and they
Speaker 1: could they could move the ball forward. But that's something
Speaker 1: that we shouldn't We don't have to know.
Speaker 4: I'm sure listen, I'm sure Aaron's going to find a
Speaker 4: way to get it, to have a conversation with him,
Speaker 4: ask for his number of Terry's going to find a
Speaker 4: way to reach out to him, just because you're planning
Speaker 4: from an organization. I didn't mean what I said like that.
Speaker 4: But they're going to talk. And you know Aaron Robbers,
Speaker 4: he shares everything, is everything, So at some point during
Speaker 4: the season, it's going to come out that we had
Speaker 4: a conversation. If he's not quill, Terry's, you're gonna let
Speaker 4: his ass happen on TV.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, and also, Terry doesn't live in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: I think Terry lives in Oklahoma near the Texas Board
Speaker 1: or something like that. So he's not like one of
Speaker 1: these his great players for team players that live in
Speaker 1: the city in which they played a lot of time.
Speaker 1: You know, players that were great, they still live there
Speaker 1: because you know, oho, I can cash in you know,
Speaker 1: autograph signing and appearances and speaking engagements and things of
Speaker 1: that nature the team, you know, team activities, stuff like that.
Speaker 2: They can take advantage of that. But Terry, Terry left Terry.
Speaker 1: I don't think Terry only lived in Pittsburgh probably during
Speaker 1: the season and once the season was over gone. Terry
Speaker 1: tilk all right, Yeah, Jamar Stewart in the Cincinnata agreement
Speaker 1: four years, fully guaranteed a little less than nineteen million dollars.
Speaker 1: That includes ten point four million signing bonus. Every twenty five.
Speaker 2: First round pick is nine signed.
Speaker 1: Stewart spoke after practice saying there was a There was
Speaker 1: never me versus anybody. We just didn't see out of
Speaker 1: eye at that point. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to Bill Bingle, I'm happy that I got
Speaker 1: drafted here. We have a long relationship ahead of us.
Speaker 1: There's no bad blood. It's just just how things go sometimes.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 3: Listen is uncle's business.
Speaker 4: It's been I want to say congratulations to Shamar Stewart
Speaker 4: and his his representation, Mike Brown, Katie Troy Duke, everyone
Speaker 4: else getting this deal done. Shamar Stewart is now in camp.
Speaker 4: He didn't miss that well, he missed with one one
Speaker 4: or two days. Uh, but he missed two.
Speaker 1: Couple of day. He missed a couple of days. You know,
Speaker 1: he didn't do any of the OTAs and things.
Speaker 4: Like that, right, so the team he has a lot
Speaker 4: of catching up to do. I'm hoping. I'm sure he
Speaker 4: was working. I'm sure he was working out wherever he was,
Speaker 4: obviously at Texas A and M.
Speaker 3: But it's different.
Speaker 4: It's different instructuring environment with your own team and your players.
Speaker 3: You can work out as long as you want.
Speaker 4: You know after that second or third day, you're gonna
Speaker 4: be so as hell no matter what you do.
Speaker 3: It's so because they people.
Speaker 4: You don't have people pulling and push on you the
Speaker 4: way the way it happens in that structuring environment. So
Speaker 4: I'm hoping he does well, stays healthy, stays healthy despite
Speaker 4: the days he missed, and that's the key.
Speaker 3: And hope. I hope he goes out there and shows
Speaker 3: off because not all.
Speaker 4: Eyes on him, all eyes on him because of the
Speaker 4: hold out whatever whatever was going on, all eyes on him,
Speaker 4: and based on what type of production you're going to
Speaker 4: put up for what you were putting the fans through,
Speaker 4: that's how they see it. But to do this, you
Speaker 4: got us waiting, whatever it may be, even though it
Speaker 4: was business, all eyes on you.
Speaker 3: Now you just got to show up, show up, and
Speaker 3: show out. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. You get in football shape playing football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't care how much you run on your you
Speaker 1: need to play football.
Speaker 2: To get in football shape.
Speaker 1: You need to put those pads on, put that helmet
Speaker 1: on and like you say, oh Joe, have people pushing, pulling,
Speaker 1: tugging on you.
Speaker 2: You work.
Speaker 1: You need to do that in a in a in
Speaker 1: a in a practice, or a football type atmosphere.
Speaker 2: Run it.
Speaker 1: Look, I understand that running sprints give you a nice foundation,
Speaker 1: but it ain't the same at all. It's not the same.
Speaker 1: And like you and I think, oh, y'all, he got
Speaker 1: a little bit more money. He had to give up something.
Speaker 1: They had to give up something. I think at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, that's that's probably how negotiation should work.
Speaker 2: I give a little, you give a little. We both
Speaker 2: feel like we got had.
Speaker 1: Hey, we're good, uh, because because sometimes on your negotiations
Speaker 1: can make it awkward. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: feel like I gave up too much. You feel like
Speaker 1: you gave up too much, and now we got bad blood.
Speaker 3: It's just been the sung It's just been. It's at
Speaker 3: the end of the day.
Speaker 4: You know a game that you love to play as
Speaker 4: a kid, You just get to a point in life
Speaker 4: when you get so good at it and.
Speaker 2: People pay for it.
Speaker 3: People pay for what you.
Speaker 2: Love to do, right.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: And the old addage never do something for free that
Speaker 1: somebody will pay you for.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 1: And Jamar Steory like, hey, y'all gonna pay it for football.
Speaker 1: Let me try to get as much as I can,
Speaker 1: and rightfully so. I mean most services probably started out
Speaker 1: as free and then somebody saying, I'll pay you to
Speaker 1: do that. You will because oh Joe what he would say? Man, Hey,
Speaker 1: I love the game so much, I play for free.
Speaker 1: And that when the coach told me, what time about Joe, say,
Speaker 1: that's what I love about Shadon Shark, this guy he
Speaker 1: would play the game for free, I said, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need the mother forty five more folds. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be the only one to play for just
Speaker 1: so just so weak cly. Yeah, I play for free,
Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna be the only one that ain't
Speaker 1: getting no check if everybody ain't get the check. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm here, but I'm happy. I'm happy for a young
Speaker 1: fella like you said. I don't think he missed a
Speaker 1: couple of no more than a couple of days of camp.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he's a see I couldn't learn like that. I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a visual learningbout you. I need you draw
Speaker 1: and I need to go through it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Need, I need to go through.
Speaker 1: Put my bike like, okay, what's gonna be dis coverage? Okay,
Speaker 1: you know on this guy is a little faster than
Speaker 1: this guy, so he gonna clear it out a little better.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to get I just need to
Speaker 1: be there. I gotta see it.
Speaker 2: I ain't a guy you just drawed him and says, okay,
Speaker 2: go do it.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 2: I needed you draw it up and now let me
Speaker 2: go out there and do it.
Speaker 3: Execute it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to do that.
Speaker 4: And also, coach, when you draw it up, I know
Speaker 4: how you drew it. But every time you draw something up,
Speaker 4: it's not gonna look that way on the field because
Speaker 4: there's somebody in front of me trying to stop me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to make us know that you drew up that
Speaker 1: didn't move. They stayed exactly where you put them back.
Speaker 1: They ain't nobody drop, ain't nobody did nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh man, when I got out of that guy tried
Speaker 2: to kill me. Grab my face, man, machorrety's a hold
Speaker 2: of my play. I was like with damn.
Speaker 1: Y yeah, yes and so and it's like, well, I
Speaker 1: was like, man, my clock had to go off. I
Speaker 1: think by the time John took the ball, he took
Speaker 1: three steps. Uh you know that is Bruce Smith, that's Reggie,
Speaker 1: that's DT. I mean, how much time you think? How
Speaker 1: much time you Thinke? I'm sorry I didn't go well,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to get your depth. I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: if I have got the extra if I went an
Speaker 1: extra three yard, Johnny got hit in the back of
Speaker 1: his head extra hard. So the extra two yard save
Speaker 1: John the extra hard hit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's funny, man.
Speaker 1: So, uh, congratulations, young fella. Now just go out there
Speaker 1: and do what you do and uh make it happen.
Speaker 1: Tua look to rebuild a relationship with Tyreek Hill after
Speaker 1: the weeks Week eighteen outbird. Let's take a listen to
Speaker 1: what Tua had to say.
Speaker 5: You guys aren't the only people that heard that. You
Speaker 5: know a lot of people that follow football, that follow
Speaker 5: the Miami Dolphins, that follow Tyreek, that are fans of his.
Speaker 3: Everyone has seen that.
Speaker 5: So when you say something like that, it's you don't
Speaker 5: just come back from that with hey my bad. Now
Speaker 5: you got you gotta work that that relationship up. You
Speaker 5: got to build everything up again. And yeah, that it's
Speaker 5: still a work in progress, not just for me but
Speaker 5: for everybody. But like I said, he's he's working on himself.
Speaker 5: He's working on the things that he say. You know,
Speaker 5: he says he wants to get better with and do
Speaker 5: better on. So that's the first step to me, and
Speaker 5: so I commend him for doing that, not one I
Speaker 5: told you, Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 4: Can you refresh the people that are that are watching,
Speaker 4: the people that are listening what he's referring to though,
Speaker 4: because he said something, but the people might need context
Speaker 4: if they don't remember what Tyreek said at the end
Speaker 4: of the season.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't give you ver Beta, but I think
Speaker 1: he said something that he might be looking to get
Speaker 1: out of here because he liked the winning, and you know,
Speaker 1: he got to do what's in the best interest for him.
Speaker 2: Uh, things of that nature.
Speaker 3: He did, he did.
Speaker 4: But I think I think also I love what I
Speaker 4: love it too, said obviously publicly two is going to
Speaker 4: have his receiver's back, but also hold his receiver accountable
Speaker 4: everything he said. Also for me as a as a
Speaker 4: football player, a former player, understanding the frustrations that the
Speaker 4: receiver would have who've had a down season for the
Speaker 4: first time, who's not used to having a lackluster season
Speaker 4: like that. The frustrations build up, the inconsistency. All right,
Speaker 4: I'm not used to this, So what's the first thing
Speaker 4: you do? You vent about not actually wanting to be
Speaker 4: in that situation anymore and seeing that whatever meant that
Speaker 4: Tyrek was trying to do, and trying to maybe find
Speaker 4: a way to get out of the Miami and find
Speaker 4: some word scope, maybe back to Kansas City or wherever
Speaker 4: it may be, it didn't work out that way. Sweat
Speaker 4: af through the Now. I can't take what I said back.
Speaker 4: All I can do is work on myself, Apologize to
Speaker 4: my teammates, apologize to my quarterback and my coaches. And
Speaker 4: it's one way to make them forget about everything is
Speaker 4: do what you do best, catching touchdowns, that's catching passes,
Speaker 4: and working your ass off. And that's three things that
Speaker 4: he already does, which is why he's one of the
Speaker 4: best at what he does now in the game.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you're angry or yourn and I get it,
Speaker 1: and I hate that, I really do. I hate when
Speaker 1: guys get angry and they don't speak to the media,
Speaker 1: because when you score fifty. There's never a time when
Speaker 1: somebody dropped fifty in the NBA they didn't speak to
Speaker 1: the media. There's never a time when somebody had one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two hundred three touchdowns they didn't speak
Speaker 1: to the media. But the moment you get a little frustrated,
Speaker 1: you don't want to speak to the media. That's But
Speaker 1: in certain situations, if it's a situation where you so
Speaker 1: upset and the words that come out of your mouth
Speaker 1: might do irreparable harm, go ahead and chalking them.
Speaker 3: Say they I can't do it.
Speaker 2: I can't speak right now.
Speaker 3: But what did what did you?
Speaker 4: What's what's you're saying? When emotions are high, logic.
Speaker 1: Is logic is low. And that's why I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, and I get up. I don't I want
Speaker 1: you to good batter and disser cause you make the
Speaker 1: same money. It ain't like so you know why I
Speaker 1: had a bad game. Oh yo, so oh Joe had
Speaker 1: a bad game. Oh Cho only had four for fifty yards. Well,
Speaker 1: o Jo, we're gonna give you four for fifty yards money.
Speaker 1: O Cho had ten for two sixty Okay, now, oh Cho,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you ten for two sixty money.
Speaker 2: You make the same either way. But we are human.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there there were times, man, I spoke to the
Speaker 1: media after the game. I'm seething because I know we
Speaker 1: had some guys that didn't play like they were supposed to,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I was one of those guys.
Speaker 4: Oh same, same, Listen, I remember my games where I
Speaker 4: played bad.
Speaker 3: I'm about vividly, yes, Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Tell the media, I gotta do better. John's job is
Speaker 1: to throw it. My job is to catch it. Well,
Speaker 1: if he's throwing it, I ain't catch it. I ain't
Speaker 1: doing my job. So I'm letting him and the team down.
Speaker 1: M I like the fact that to all acknowledge what
Speaker 1: he said because a lot of times, oh man, we know,
Speaker 1: we know how guys are so far the song that's
Speaker 1: our brother.
Speaker 2: He didn't do that.
Speaker 1: That lets me know that what he said not only
Speaker 1: bothered him, but it bothered other people in the room.
Speaker 2: And they had a conversation with Tom. They talked to
Speaker 2: Tyrek about this.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, they talked.
Speaker 2: To Tyrek about this.
Speaker 1: And I like that old Joe because you know, sometimes,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, they try to gloss it over.
Speaker 2: Man, you know, it ain't that big of a deal. Oh,
Speaker 2: absolutely badly.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 4: And there's only one person that can get away with
Speaker 4: saying that, and that was the quarterback.
Speaker 3: That's the only one. That's the only person because.
Speaker 4: It all fat all falls back on quarterback not being there. Okay,
Speaker 4: my numbers on what they used to be and anything
Speaker 4: that Tyreek says at the end of the season. Who
Speaker 4: they gonna point the finger at?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: The back?
Speaker 1: Yeah and so h but Tyreek, Tyreek knows what he
Speaker 1: has to do. I looked at Tyreek's body this year
Speaker 1: compared to what it was last year.
Speaker 2: He looked ten fifteen pounds.
Speaker 4: Like I told you, I told you what. It looked
Speaker 4: like the god damn workout. Uh why that work out worked?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh my god, he looked.
Speaker 1: He look the thing you though, Joe, He's already so
Speaker 1: explosive even if he leaves a step.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still in the league.
Speaker 4: A completely crazy And you know what, the fact he
Speaker 4: didn't lose the step because he just ran a goddamn
Speaker 4: ten one last month, what do we what? And he's
Speaker 4: not even training to run track? How you you're not
Speaker 4: even track training and you ran a ten one. Imagine
Speaker 4: if he was in track shape or had track technique
Speaker 4: or got track coaching that that ten one drop down
Speaker 4: nine nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might definitely get this. He probably get the
Speaker 2: ten easy, easy.
Speaker 4: Man, he's gonna be he gonna be alright though, he's
Speaker 4: gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be but he's just like, look, you gotta
Speaker 1: realize where he came from. See, they never had these
Speaker 1: problems in Kansas City. So Tyreek k used to this.
Speaker 1: Tyreek used to be my homeboy being there, and so
Speaker 1: he used to like knowing Okay, now granted, now his
Speaker 1: first couple of years in Miami.
Speaker 2: He's number one. He's gonna get all the balls blah
Speaker 2: blah blah.
Speaker 1: Now and in Kansas City, you know, he had to
Speaker 1: split that with Kelsey, maybe Sammy Watkins or maybe someone else.
Speaker 1: But he knew he's gonna get X and he knew
Speaker 1: Mahomes was going to be there. It's hard no matter
Speaker 1: how great you are. Look, only DeAndre Hopkins can just
Speaker 1: go through quarterbacks and still put up Pro Bowl all pronog.
Speaker 3: You know who else did it? God Damn Andrejohnson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or had a quarterback carrousel as well, And for
Speaker 4: some resonduction didn't even matter regards who's got that throwing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm happy, uh that he said Tyreek is working.
Speaker 1: But like you said, it takes time. And see o Joe,
Speaker 1: he could have lied, oh yeah, we're gonna move past
Speaker 1: that and moved on and.
Speaker 2: Say nah no uh uh uh uh uh.
Speaker 4: We're gonna make everybody figured about this week one, guarantee
Speaker 4: you because you know, I know, I know what Mike
Speaker 4: mcdame's gonna do. I know what he's gonna I know
Speaker 4: what he's gonna call coming on the gate Week one.
Speaker 4: They dialing up ten.
Speaker 1: But see, that's where that's where you need leadership, because
Speaker 1: look at the situation that we dealt with in Baltimore
Speaker 1: in two thousand, the offense with five weeks and we
Speaker 1: didn't score a touchdown. It could have it could have
Speaker 1: split us at the scenes. And the thing that really
Speaker 1: helped me Ray Woody. Two guys on defense, one guy
Speaker 1: on offense. We were really close. We did everything together.
Speaker 1: On the road, was in each other's room, laughing, talking.
Speaker 1: We went out we always, we always went out together.
Speaker 1: We went to get something eat, we did that together.
Speaker 1: And I just remember telling them, I said, you guys, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all are doing unbelievable, y'all having a great season, historically
Speaker 1: great season, I say. But the thing I loved about
Speaker 1: football is they don't take great units to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: They take teams. So I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care what y'all do if we don't start
Speaker 1: doing our part. But when we start doing our part,
Speaker 1: don't you guys, let that we'll get what we have
Speaker 1: to get fixed. Y'all get state of course, and me
Speaker 1: being able to relay that to Woody, to be able
Speaker 1: to relay that to Rod excuse me, to a Ray
Speaker 1: and to let them know that. Hey, and then you know,
Speaker 1: to tell Brian bro I ain't tell anything you don't know,
Speaker 1: but it ain't getting done. Yeah, we're gonna do.
Speaker 4: When I think about that twenty team y'all had, ye
Speaker 4: deefens was so good.
Speaker 3: It was so good.
Speaker 4: Y'all didn't have to be as great as they did.
Speaker 2: All you had, no all, y'all.
Speaker 4: Unfair all y'all had to do. Just meet him halfway,
Speaker 4: Just meet him halfway. Give us, give us ten points.
Speaker 4: We'll take your arrest.
Speaker 1: Hey, if we got if we gotta, if we got
Speaker 1: a ten enough to lead, Oh, it was old unless
Speaker 1: unless we fumbled and you got a scooping store. You
Speaker 1: gotta pick sex with Marvin Lewis. We started playing and
Speaker 1: Marvin would say, Shay, give us team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say ten. What we ain't about to get honest? Ten?
Speaker 1: What Marvin said? I remember we playing. We started playing,
Speaker 1: Marvin say, hey, give us ten. We got to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Marvin say, give us seven. I say, Marvin, do you
Speaker 1: realize what you're saying? I said, Martin, this team's in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He said, should give us seven and give
Speaker 1: it to us early. We played the Raiders, Uh uh,
Speaker 1: and that we had a great deal. So Marvin was
Speaker 1: the DC. Jack Dale Rial was the linebackers coach. Rex
Speaker 1: Ryan was the D line coach. I think, uh, who
Speaker 1: is the who is our DV coach? I forget his name,
Speaker 1: but he ended up going to be DC somewhere. But
Speaker 1: we were loaded. Were playing the Raiders in the championship game.
Speaker 1: They said, give us seven. It's over. She'll say, Shay,
Speaker 1: y'all give us seven early at the half it's over.
Speaker 1: I said, Ray, they number they like the number one
Speaker 1: scoring team in football. What you mean give him? Give us?
Speaker 1: Say shape, give us sealing at the half? I said, well,
Speaker 1: I'm good for selling, big place shame, oh, big place shake,
Speaker 1: good for sealing. I got that, Hey, I got that touchdown.
Speaker 1: I came to the sideline like smoking Mama told him
Speaker 1: make it work. Yeah, this ain't nothing. Smoker ain't enough.
Speaker 2: It ain't enough. She's ain't making enough.
Speaker 4: Hey, was it running back in the Napoleon coffin back then?
Speaker 2: No, it was Charlie Gardner.
Speaker 3: Okay, I forgot about Charlie. I've got it.
Speaker 1: Charted Charlie Garner. Nah, nah, I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think that nappy was there then.
Speaker 3: He was nice. He was nice too.
Speaker 1: He had speed. Now you let him get outside. Now
Speaker 1: he's gonna cause some problem for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He hit us with about two hundred one in one
Speaker 1: year at the Broncos.
Speaker 2: But I think that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: I think that's where veteran presence comes in, especially guys
Speaker 1: that are that's not really concerned about numbers or or
Speaker 1: you're trying to win at a certain point in time.
Speaker 2: Bro, what.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't care how much money you make. Man,
Speaker 1: when you lose it, it's sucks bad man. You man,
Speaker 1: you hate I'm like, damn.
Speaker 2: You ain't.
Speaker 1: Joe and people, people in chat. You're not thinking about
Speaker 1: a check. You're like, man, I'm not hearing this heat.
Speaker 1: I'm out here in this cold. I'm out here, you know,
Speaker 1: with the my body's aching, I'm hurting and we losing.
Speaker 3: Hey, hold on, now, you got to think about this.
Speaker 4: Now, I was in Cincinnati eleven years, but ten You
Speaker 4: know how many winning scenes that had in Cincinnati?
Speaker 2: How many?
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe what two? One able to be able to
Speaker 4: on that. There's a reason I chose to have so
Speaker 4: much fun. There's a reason. How do I block out
Speaker 4: the losing part?
Speaker 2: I don't know better man than me.
Speaker 3: Hey, make sure I'm doing everything I can. That's all
Speaker 3: I can do. I know that two.
Speaker 4: Thousand and five season, that was a winning season. We
Speaker 4: might have had it, might have might have had two
Speaker 4: winning seasons maybe in your career or in Cincinnati, ship
Speaker 4: Lisnati is my career.
Speaker 2: What you mean? You played in New England? You got
Speaker 2: a year out there.
Speaker 3: I don't count.
Speaker 1: Man, that's on your resume. And guess what, if you
Speaker 1: go to the hall, they're gonna put that.
Speaker 3: I ain't going to the hall. I put my own
Speaker 3: jacket on.
Speaker 2: That's okay. But if you were to they're gonna put
Speaker 2: it and everybody.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you go to Wikipedia and see if they
Speaker 1: got New England in there. Go to pull up, pull
Speaker 1: up a chat, pull up oh Choe, Wikipedia, and see
Speaker 1: if they mentioned anything about New England they will.
Speaker 3: I bet he don't.
Speaker 2: I bet they do.
Speaker 3: I don't even know that. I don't know how to
Speaker 3: get on Wikipedia.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. I'll thig to get on that
Speaker 2: for you. I better get on that for you.
Speaker 1: Oh you might need to have him to take that
Speaker 1: spouse thing off there, But that's neither here nor there
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: What is it saying?
Speaker 1: I ain't say nothing, but I'm saying, oh uh. He
Speaker 1: played foot college at Santa Monica, Cousar.
Speaker 3: August that's me. That's me, August State.
Speaker 1: That's me, August State, biebers And he played for Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals and the New England Patriots during his tenure playing
Speaker 1: in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Hold on, what about they ain't putting I played in
Speaker 4: manti All too.
Speaker 2: No, they didn't put that up there.
Speaker 3: I played in Mexico too. They ain't put that.
Speaker 2: Oh they did. They said.
Speaker 1: He Cincinnati Bingles from two thousand and one to twenty ten.
Speaker 1: The Patriots twenty eleven. They got an asterisk by Miami,
Speaker 1: but Madre Allen West in twenty fourteen and they're moder
Speaker 1: rate in two thousand and See.
Speaker 4: See, you know what, I have the greatest career of
Speaker 4: any any NFL player ever because I played in the States,
Speaker 4: I played in Canada, and I played in Mexico. Who
Speaker 4: else could say that, yeah, yeah, what are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Different?
Speaker 1: Different member of He was a member of the Bengals
Speaker 1: forty anniversary and fiftieth anniversary teams.
Speaker 3: That's b that's me. See, hey, I was good because
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: How good you gotta. You know how good you got
Speaker 4: to be to play in the States. You can play
Speaker 4: in the NFL, play in Canada and Canada. Listen, Oh
Speaker 4: I told you about my experience in Canada. Ain't no
Speaker 4: way in hell some of them fellas should be dying
Speaker 4: in Canada. What I think people look at the pay
Speaker 4: or the different and think, oh Canada, sweet man.
Speaker 1: What was the Cam Lake who didn't have a Miami
Speaker 1: had a guy that came Canada came.
Speaker 4: That's just that's just one of there. There are a
Speaker 4: few examples of people that born moved Doug flu but
Speaker 4: it's so many more, the numbers, the politics, the opportunity.
Speaker 3: There are so many players in.
Speaker 4: Canada like it almost irks my soul that they didn't
Speaker 4: get the opportunity because there's no reason you should be here.
Speaker 4: Every week we play somebody different. I've seen maybe four
Speaker 4: or five guys, why why are you here doing?
Speaker 3: But anyway, that's neither here, no