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Speaker 4: All right, everybody, I'm just gonna jump in and steal
Speaker 4: this intro because I am particularly excited about today's episode.
Speaker 4: We have dare I say a drama Queen's exclusive, never
Speaker 4: been done, might never be done again. So if you're listening,
Speaker 4: well done, you're here for a great one. Because today
Speaker 4: we have not one, not two, but three of the
Speaker 4: James sisters. That's right. We have Taylor aka Lindsay McKeon.
Speaker 4: We have Quinn aka Chantelle, Van Santon aka Van Scranton,
Speaker 4: and we have Hayley aka Bethany joy Lands and of
Speaker 4: course you have my self, Hillary Burton Morgan. Ladies, welcome
Speaker 4: to the show.
Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks for coming you guys, so happy to.
Speaker 5: See you, so good to be here with all of us.
Speaker 4: We made it happen.
Speaker 6: It's only been like two three years, right, so much
Speaker 6: the same how.
Speaker 4: You all at the same time. It's like the Olympics.
Speaker 4: We get it once every four years. It's gone too soon.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're finally here Chantell, in particular because
Speaker 1: we've had Lindsay, but we've talked with I've had conversations
Speaker 1: with so many people who were like, oh, even Austin
Speaker 1: was saying, like, gosh, the drama Queen's been going on
Speaker 1: for so long and they haven't invited me on the show.
Speaker 1: I wonder what's going on. I hope they're not mad
Speaker 1: at me. And then we're like, oh no, wait, you
Speaker 1: literally just your character's not on the show yet, so
Speaker 1: it hasn't happened. I'm so glad we've finally reached the
Speaker 1: Chantelle season where you're here. Yay.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 6: I love it. It's so funny because I'll sit back,
Speaker 6: I'm like, I wonder what's going to be like the introduction.
Speaker 6: Is it going to be like Clay and Quinn's first kiss,
Speaker 6: like which was Sophia directed you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I'm like yeah, And then it was like can you
Speaker 6: come because your mom's dying and you're like, oh, got
Speaker 6: punt means it wasn't the divorce that happened like you know,
Speaker 6: seventeen sixteen episodes ago within one season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well I thought this was great because all
Speaker 1: three of us really got I mean, aside from the
Speaker 1: episode where we were fighting in the pool, which was
Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot to say about that episode.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of work to do, and it
Speaker 1: was certainly fun to play with you guys, but this
Speaker 1: felt really poignant and meaningful. And I certainly hear more
Speaker 1: comments than anything about this episode from fans. And I
Speaker 1: don't know about you guys, but when people come up
Speaker 1: to me, I get a lot of Nathan and Haley.
Speaker 1: But the one consistent thing that I hear is when
Speaker 1: you guys did the storyline and where your mom died.
Speaker 1: I was going through AB and C in my life
Speaker 1: and it made a huge impact on me and thank you,
Speaker 1: and so this felt like the right time to have
Speaker 1: us all together.
Speaker 7: I love hearing that. That's like probably the favorite thing
Speaker 7: about being an actor. There's not too many anymore, ha ha,
Speaker 7: but that is one of.
Speaker 4: The best things to hear before we jump into it. Joy,
Speaker 4: do you want to give the rundown of the episode,
Speaker 4: I would love to do.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes. So this is a season seven episode eighteen,
Speaker 1: the Last day of Our Acquaintance air date February twenty second,
Speaker 1: twenty ten. As Brook angrily deals with Alex's trist with Julian,
Speaker 1: Lydia's condition worsens, prompting Quinn and Haley to try and
Speaker 1: reconnect with Taylor. Clay is forced to deal with Katie's
Speaker 1: unsettling advances and were they unsettling? And Nathan helps Jamie
Speaker 1: come to terms with Lydia's impending death. This was written
Speaker 1: by our dear friend Mike Daniels. Oh. I love Mike
Speaker 1: and he did such a great job writing this episode
Speaker 1: and combining the sort of tenderness with also the necessary
Speaker 1: comedy and the other storylines. I mean, that was That's
Speaker 1: a hard blend to do, but you can always rely
Speaker 1: on Mike.
Speaker 6: When we when we got done, I watched it last night.
Speaker 6: I went in Texas with I actually watched it with
Speaker 6: my mom and it was the first episode I've ever
Speaker 6: watched with my family. My mom and I got to
Speaker 6: watch it together. But when we got done, she said, wow,
Speaker 6: there was a lot of sexy time as well, mixed
Speaker 6: in with grief. I said, so we call it sexy
Speaker 6: chicken soup for the soul. Oh Likena the episode.
Speaker 1: That's I love that. I love that you watched it
Speaker 1: with your mom. That's really sweet.
Speaker 6: It just happened to be this way, and I thought
Speaker 6: it was very yeah, like poignant and perfect to.
Speaker 5: Watch it with my mother.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for both of you. Lindsay, have you watched the
Speaker 4: show at all since we wrapped?
Speaker 7: No, I mean, honestly, I've never watched it fully anyway,
Speaker 7: But this I didn't remember so much of this. I
Speaker 7: remember the emotions of being in the scene. I watched
Speaker 7: it with my husband last night and he's like, are
Speaker 7: you getting emotional. I'm like, yeah, because it's I was
Speaker 7: emotional in the scene. It's bringing up that same feeling.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's surprising watching it, Like Tim, it's such
Speaker 7: a different era one and you know, where we all
Speaker 7: were in our lives at that time is probably like
Speaker 7: a very different space to go back to and have
Speaker 7: memories of that. Yeah. So yeah, all of that is
Speaker 7: kind of wild. And then to see it and be like,
Speaker 7: oh wow, like there's a lot of crazy.
Speaker 5: This is like crazy female storylines.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of exposure, as your mother said, and
Speaker 7: like how many times did Taylor come into a scene
Speaker 7: with her boobs out and a robe on?
Speaker 5: And it's just it's wild to see.
Speaker 7: It's just wild to see and be forty two now
Speaker 7: and have such a different perspective on life and bodies
Speaker 7: and all of the things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that. I realized in this episode
Speaker 1: Alexander really just was brought in to serve as this
Speaker 1: boy toy character, just to serve as this it's like
Speaker 1: a facilitator for women's It was like a cattiness or something.
Speaker 1: I couldn't quite figure out what the point was. It
Speaker 1: just felt like he's here to make to give alex
Speaker 1: and Victoria and Brook a reason to be caddy. It
Speaker 1: was just so strange. He didn't have any other real
Speaker 1: function so far. Maybe it gets better, but I mean
Speaker 1: I liked him at the end with Daphne, that was fun.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was funny to you're just like full makeout
Speaker 6: in the middle of the street.
Speaker 4: Also, like a slap by an icon just hits different.
Speaker 4: And that scene I love because when she slapped it
Speaker 4: was just better. You know, there was just there and
Speaker 4: so the slap and the kiss.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's so it's so Dynasty, it's so old movie.
Speaker 4: So good, am mine an episode of melrose Place?
Speaker 1: What's happening? That it felt like, I mean, before we
Speaker 1: dive too deep into our stuff, which it gets so
Speaker 1: you know, can get so heavy. And there's so many
Speaker 1: things to talk about behind the scenes of how this
Speaker 1: episode went. But can we talk about Brooke and Daphne
Speaker 1: on the floor talking that those shots were great. It
Speaker 1: was really fun to see them doing something other than
Speaker 1: anything in our episode where it's not talking heads people
Speaker 1: just standing there talking to each other. I love, but
Speaker 1: this was this is good. This is a long time coming,
Speaker 1: the final revelation of Brook's love for Julian and they're
Speaker 1: coming back together, and the punch with Alex and all
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 6: I thought it was fun, the slap, the punch, that
Speaker 6: it was so good.
Speaker 4: Also that it was this interesting thing happening. Where as
Speaker 4: you all were losing your mom, we were watching Brooke
Speaker 4: get her mom back. So that's that scene. I didn't
Speaker 4: notice it until the close over Bros. Scene where she
Speaker 4: sits down with there and she's like, obviously, Victoria's always
Speaker 4: kind of just been like Victoria who's just all about
Speaker 4: herself and she's cutting. This season, we've seen her start
Speaker 4: to soften, but that moment in particular, I thought like, oh,
Speaker 4: how interesting. It's like they're losing the mom that they've
Speaker 4: always had and Brooke is finally getting back the mom
Speaker 4: that she never had.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like a take.
Speaker 4: On it, Mike daniels Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can always count on Mike.
Speaker 4: Also, Jane has that great line after Solph's punched her
Speaker 4: and Brook goes to Alex's hotel room and Alex opens
Speaker 4: the door and Brook goes, oh my god because she
Speaker 4: sees the black eye and she goes, yeah, I didn't
Speaker 4: know your own strength, did you? Bam bam.
Speaker 5: That's cute.
Speaker 4: Did.
Speaker 1: I think it's funny how you guys never I don't
Speaker 1: know if you crossed paths for a long time. The
Speaker 1: Quinn and Taylor and Brooke characters were always in Clay too,
Speaker 1: other than Quinn and Clay, but like, you guys were no,
Speaker 1: I mean, Clay was there for You were there for
Speaker 1: the whole Taylor reveal with Quinn's husband, right, were you
Speaker 1: in that episode.
Speaker 4: Oh, the awkward dinner table makeout scene?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's super fun.
Speaker 1: I think I missed that episode, so I don't.
Speaker 4: I didn't remember that they made you guys look like
Speaker 4: sociopaths for a couple of episodes there. That was crazy,
Speaker 4: way weird, man, And the fact that no one chimed
Speaker 4: up was even weirder.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, I mean we really were only like Quinn was
Speaker 6: really only intertwined in the story with family and then Clay.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it took a while before everybody really started integrating.
Speaker 1: But I think that's good. I guess that's part of
Speaker 1: when you're renewing a show and you've got a new
Speaker 1: cast and you're doing new storylines and new things, it's
Speaker 1: better to draw things out a little bit.
Speaker 5: This is my first time.
Speaker 7: I remember having the one on one scene with you
Speaker 7: Chantel too, and really enjoying that because that was the
Speaker 7: first time we got to actually like work together, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah where. I so remember doing that scene as
Speaker 6: well and being like, gosh, this is so bizarre, like
Speaker 6: we have where sisters, we're supposed to have this history
Speaker 6: and you're like, Hi, nice to meet you, I'm your sister. Okay, okay,
Speaker 6: let's do this scene that's like charged with all this
Speaker 6: history and stuff. And you know that's where your traumatic
Speaker 6: family toolbox comes in and helps out and man, but
Speaker 6: it's always like that. You know, you're like it's you'll
Speaker 6: do a movie and like the first day they're like, okay,
Speaker 6: sex scene is up. First day, you guys go, you
Speaker 6: know how it is. But it was so beautiful the
Speaker 6: just the dynamic you know, lindsay that you brought because
Speaker 6: they had shown you know, Hailey and Quinn and like
Speaker 6: the bond that they had, and then you know, you
Speaker 6: always have to have the sibling that like throws a rift.
Speaker 6: But I felt but it wasn't just you coming in
Speaker 6: and being you know, a selfish or whatever we say.
Speaker 6: It really like you can see your pain, you can
Speaker 6: see where it comes from, and that you know, the
Speaker 6: beautiful scene you had with our mom where you were
Speaker 6: like in her hospital room alone and all of the
Speaker 6: things that were underneath the surface that came out in
Speaker 6: that scene where you just feel like you don't belong
Speaker 6: and you know you're not the good child and all
Speaker 6: of these things that you were so wrong about that
Speaker 6: you held on to that story and you start to empathize.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know you're not some evil and who
Speaker 6: just sleeps with our men. You know, you're somebody who's
Speaker 6: in pain and a real, you know, complex human, and
Speaker 6: you just did such a beautiful job of all of
Speaker 6: it that I think, you know, I felt her and
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, she's my favorite sibling. Okay.
Speaker 7: So I love the fact, like doing this show and
Speaker 7: doing Supernatural, where these shows go on for years and
Speaker 7: there's like an arc of my character and each time
Speaker 7: I come back, I'm in different stages of my life,
Speaker 7: and I feel like the ending of.
Speaker 5: These shows is like this was Taylor's.
Speaker 7: Redemption, Like this was me getting to come back, and
Speaker 7: you get to see the Taylor's actually a human, you know,
Speaker 7: she's not just an evil, horrible.
Speaker 4: And how great that you had that moment with Lydia
Speaker 4: where it's just the two of you and Lydia says
Speaker 4: to Taylor, She's like, you are the most like me.
Speaker 4: Yeah I was. I was a whole different person before
Speaker 4: I was Lydia the mom. And I thought that was
Speaker 4: it was just so smart and so lovely.
Speaker 5: Why'd you hide that from us? Mom?
Speaker 1: Why did you wait so long?
Speaker 5: Played the good girl all these years?
Speaker 1: Because Taylor never went home, she was never around long
Speaker 1: enough for Mom to tell her that's okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get me.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Lindsay, your stuff was so great and to
Speaker 4: finally see you soft and because yeah, I mean like
Speaker 4: your whole thing this far has been like her uniform
Speaker 4: is booty shirt shorts, her one speed is bitchy, like
Speaker 4: you know, and so it was so nice to get
Speaker 4: to see like a talented actor go more and do
Speaker 4: you know, do deep or do softer? And it was
Speaker 4: just such I think, a great you know reveal for
Speaker 4: the audience to see like, oh, there you are, like
Speaker 4: that's the person who's in pain. And Sean tell you,
Speaker 4: we were talking about this last week. You uh, you
Speaker 4: do such a great job of being on the verge
Speaker 4: of emotion, which is such a such a tricky thing
Speaker 4: to do, but where it's like it's such a powerful
Speaker 4: tool though, because I think it really pulls the audience in,
Speaker 4: you know, because it's like, oh, it's like there's there's
Speaker 4: more power to someone fighting back their tears than there
Speaker 4: is to someone pushing them. And we were having this
Speaker 4: conversation last week about how you do that so well.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like your stuff was fantastic. Joy, your stuff
Speaker 4: was great, And what I liked about it was all
Speaker 4: three of you were kind of different levels of grieving,
Speaker 4: like you each had your own flavor and all of
Speaker 4: it was relatable. Yeah, So it's like I think for
Speaker 4: anyone watching, they can find themselves in one of the
Speaker 4: three of you at any given point.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably why this is the storyline that
Speaker 1: gets the most feedback on my end anyway, because no
Speaker 1: matter what part of the grief journey you're in, and
Speaker 1: whether you're losing a parent or a sibling or just
Speaker 1: going through a time when you're even the loss of
Speaker 1: a relationship, can you know is a death in many ways,
Speaker 1: And I think people just connected with that and the
Speaker 1: different the different ways that you process grief and try
Speaker 1: and find your way through. I totally agree, Chantelle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: neither of you guys were here when you don't hear
Speaker 1: what we say about you behind your back and all
Speaker 1: the lovely things that we say about you, but it's true, yeah, Chantelle.
Speaker 1: The sense of holding everything in and the way that
Speaker 1: you there's a fragility to you that has a strength,
Speaker 1: like a spine of strength, the way that you are
Speaker 1: able to stand experience what you're experiencing. You're so solid.
Speaker 1: But it's like I want to reach out and give
Speaker 1: you a hug because it seems like you might collapse
Speaker 1: at any moment, and yet I have no doubt that
Speaker 1: Quinn is one hundred percent going to be okay, whether
Speaker 1: somebody is there to catch her or not. And it's
Speaker 1: a really interesting dynamic to see Lindsay. We were saying
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, especially with that episode where
Speaker 1: the one was it the one before this rob were
Speaker 1: Lydia tells us that she's got cancer or was it
Speaker 1: two before this.
Speaker 4: One before this? I think right, I think it's a
Speaker 4: very quick storyline.
Speaker 6: Like we're going through the photos in the living room, right.
Speaker 1: But it's at the end of that episode.
Speaker 7: Is this where we're packing, Like we're in the room
Speaker 7: and I'm packing. I remember I have scene with you.
Speaker 5: I do too.
Speaker 1: I don't remember if that's the one I directed her,
Speaker 1: if it was before that, But you are a firework.
Speaker 1: It's like I never you never know when Lindsay's going
Speaker 1: to go off on camera, and it's so exciting, like
Speaker 1: I never know what to expect from you, and it
Speaker 1: always made it so fun to work with you too,
Speaker 1: because it's the unpredictability was so exciting as an actor
Speaker 1: and as an audience member now to be so removed
Speaker 1: from it and watch you on camera and be like,
Speaker 1: what what what is she going to do next? I
Speaker 1: have no idea if you're going to laugh, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna cry, gonna hit somebody, if you're going to hit yourself.
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you're gonna run out of the scene.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna just like stop everything
Speaker 1: and calm down. Like I have no idea what to
Speaker 1: expect at any given moment. It makes it so fun
Speaker 1: to watch you. Thank you, Yeah, it's true. And I
Speaker 1: felt that way in the scene between you, guys, and
Speaker 1: when you walked in the room with Bess in her
Speaker 1: hospital bed and I mean Bess Armstrong, like what an actress?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I cried a lot watching this back, guys.
Speaker 1: This is a rough one.
Speaker 6: She's a force, but everything she says just like cuts.
Speaker 6: It's so clear when she speaks, you know, there's no fluff,
Speaker 6: there's no she doesn't put a whole lot And I
Speaker 6: don't know how to explain. It's like she doesn't put
Speaker 6: a whole lot of her emotion through it. She's just like,
Speaker 6: this is what I need to say. I need you
Speaker 6: to get it, you know, and yeah, like we were
Speaker 6: so lucky to have her. And I remember looking at
Speaker 6: her and she eerily looked very similar to my mother.
Speaker 6: And I had this telling my mom last night, sitting there,
Speaker 6: I was like, Mom, you guys, look, my mom has
Speaker 6: like short blonde hair like similar. Does so crazy how
Speaker 6: similar they look?
Speaker 1: Chantella? I never noticed that. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 6: It was really I remember at the time being like, wow,
Speaker 6: this is really freaky, like did they look at picture?
Speaker 6: Did they? And you know, you were like no, these
Speaker 6: were our parents all along, and I'm like, oh, it's
Speaker 6: so crazy. You know, I want to I want to
Speaker 6: share a small interesting anecdote, you know, you you talk
Speaker 6: about like kind of holding that that thread of like fragility.
Speaker 6: But I found out the scene where Bess and I
Speaker 6: are in again, I don't know remember if it was
Speaker 6: one or two episodes back, but we're in the space
Speaker 6: that she rents for Quinn to have a gallery. I
Speaker 6: took a phone call from my mother that night and
Speaker 6: while we were shooting it and found out that my
Speaker 6: grandmother got has had breast cancer. So while we were
Speaker 6: going through and my grandmother was such a warrior and
Speaker 6: you know, fought it and survived, but it was such
Speaker 6: a bizarre timing of things, of course, you know, which
Speaker 6: I find throughout my career, things like that happened where
Speaker 6: you know, you're like, this just could not be happening
Speaker 6: at a worst time. But then that's kind of the
Speaker 6: through line of what I'm watching for me, this twenty
Speaker 6: three year old version of myself going through and grappling
Speaker 6: with as We're doing an episode where my mother's dying
Speaker 6: and I'm wondering if my grandmother, who is like my
Speaker 6: second mother, you know, is going to die and what
Speaker 6: is this going to be like? And what are goodbyes like?
Speaker 6: And you know, what is the big C word like?
Speaker 6: And it's just it's it's really crazy the way that
Speaker 6: sometimes life parallels what our characters are going through and
Speaker 6: nobody knew about it.
Speaker 1: To shooting this episode. Help you process grief or did
Speaker 1: it feel false and strange? Like I'm crying about something
Speaker 1: that's not real, but there is something that is real
Speaker 1: going on. But how do I like, you're having to
Speaker 1: muster emotions maybe when you're not wanting to or you're
Speaker 1: feeling okay, and you like, how did you manage that?
Speaker 6: I just remember I had never had a significant death
Speaker 6: like a mother, my grandmother, you know pasked ten years
Speaker 6: ago now, but from lung cancer. But at the time
Speaker 6: it was like the biggest shop. And I think I
Speaker 6: felt a bit like a zombie be doing this episode,
Speaker 6: and a bit like out of my own body and
Speaker 6: not understanding and not really being able to process and
Speaker 6: grieve what it would even be like. And I think
Speaker 6: about the other parallel of when my grandmother did die
Speaker 6: in my last conversation I got to have with her,
Speaker 6: and it's nothing like you know what this episode is.
Speaker 6: But you know, I had to just go with it.
Speaker 6: But it felt a little bit more out of body
Speaker 6: and not actually real and this isn't what would happen,
Speaker 6: and a bit like I just wanted to be removed
Speaker 6: and more have the scenes with my sisters because that
Speaker 6: felt like an anchor for me rather than the reality
Speaker 6: of what was actually happening.
Speaker 1: You know, such a strange thing about our job, Like,
Speaker 1: no matter what's going on in your personal life, death, divorce, childbirth,
Speaker 1: physical sickness, you got the flu, Yeah, Like, no matter what,
Speaker 1: you got to show up at work and hit your
Speaker 1: mark on your call time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you're on a show like ours, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of emotional vamporism. So there's there's coincidence like
Speaker 4: you're talking about, and then there's stuff that's literally just
Speaker 4: being mined from your life to put into the show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Joy and lindsay, had you guys ever had like
Speaker 6: a significant death before we did this scene?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: No, I don't think before we did it.
Speaker 6: So my question back to you guys is what Joy said, like,
Speaker 6: how did it feel for you? Did it feel false?
Speaker 6: Did it feel like you were processing different grief?
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously like the scenes with you and Mom
Speaker 7: and all of the things. It's there was so much
Speaker 7: to pull on, you know, in regular life for that,
Speaker 7: But the scene where she actually died, Like I remember
Speaker 7: working with my coach at the time and like the
Speaker 7: way she was explaining death to me and how people
Speaker 7: process it, it's, you know, it's so weird when you're
Speaker 7: actually in like the death scene and it's not necessarily
Speaker 7: how you think it would be. Like a lot of
Speaker 7: people aren't like, oh, somebody's dying. You're not like kicking
Speaker 7: and screaming and crying. Usually it's like there's something else
Speaker 7: that washes over you that's this surreal, present, like almost
Speaker 7: attached like experience of like I haven't really processed this before.
Speaker 7: How do you process what's actually happening? You know, it's
Speaker 7: a reality that everybody must face, but it's not something
Speaker 7: usually we're dealing with every day, and it's something so shocking,
Speaker 7: especially in our culture, like the American culture doesn't really
Speaker 7: know how to deal with grief and death in like
Speaker 7: a beautiful integrated way in our culture.
Speaker 5: So it's something that's.
Speaker 7: Always a little bit like surreal and we're afraid of
Speaker 7: and we don't fully end stand.
Speaker 1: You know that so beautifully said.
Speaker 4: I thought there was a really good moment of that
Speaker 4: with Haley and Lydia when it was just the two
Speaker 4: of you in the hospital room and you have this
Speaker 4: moment where you realize, oh, and you say you're talking
Speaker 4: about her soup and you say, I don't even have
Speaker 4: the recipe mm hmm. And that was such an interesting
Speaker 4: glims because obviously, like you're it's just you realizing like
Speaker 4: the impermanence of everything, about how it's all about to
Speaker 4: be gone. And then the next little snippet where she's
Speaker 4: writing it down and all you're doing is just watching
Speaker 4: her like you could see the shift. That was one
Speaker 4: of those moments where you were like, oh, oh god,
Speaker 4: this is what this is, what this means.
Speaker 7: And then when you give it back to your son,
Speaker 7: like at the end, when you're like, oh, this is
Speaker 7: up to me now I carry.
Speaker 5: This torch forward, Like those were very real moments of
Speaker 5: like what happens when you realize.
Speaker 7: Somebody is going to be gone and how do you
Speaker 7: move forward?
Speaker 5: And what do you bring of them with you?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I think you're right that there's if
Speaker 1: you don't have personal experiencing processing personal experience processing a
Speaker 1: certain type of emotion, it's one of the interesting, maybe
Speaker 1: blessings of our job. But to get to show up
Speaker 1: and have the opportunity to learn how to process that,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's that can be so freeing
Speaker 1: if you alleviate yourself from the pressure of I have
Speaker 1: to perform this scene, I have to convey this thing
Speaker 1: that I don't know how to convey, and instead lean
Speaker 1: into that I don't know how to convey this, I
Speaker 1: haven't experienced this before. I wonder what's going to happen?
Speaker 1: And then they say action and you're like, what's going
Speaker 1: to happen, but I'm here for it. I'm here to
Speaker 1: believe the moment. I'm looking at best thinking this is
Speaker 1: my mom and she's dying. How do I feel? And
Speaker 1: you just fall into it. Yeah, it's really interesting.
Speaker 4: And best to kind of going back to what Sean
Speaker 4: Tell said, I think Bess is like if you ever
Speaker 4: watched a really good athlete and you go, this sport
Speaker 4: doesn't look so hard. Best as an actor, she's so
Speaker 4: good that it looks like what she's doing is little
Speaker 4: to nothing. Yes, but that's only because she's that good. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I think if you were just watching this, I
Speaker 4: think a lot of people could go I could do
Speaker 4: that role, not doing much, and it's like it's because
Speaker 4: she's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she knows how to not do much, because very
Speaker 1: often in life there's a lot going on under the
Speaker 1: surface and not too much coming out on your face.
Speaker 1: You're not making faces, You're experiencing something, and there's an
Speaker 1: intimacy that only someone who's up close can see what's
Speaker 1: going on behind the veil. And that's what the camera
Speaker 1: provides for us. Is that a close experience?
Speaker 6: You know, there's a quote I always loved. Didn't discover
Speaker 6: it until you know not. When I was twenty three
Speaker 6: during the show by a playwright Mammot, and he says,
Speaker 6: in life, there's no emotional preparation for lost, surprise, betrayal,
Speaker 6: or discovery, and neither is there on stage. So forget
Speaker 6: the funny voices, pick up your cue and speak out
Speaker 6: even though frightened. Yeah, why I come back to it still, ma'am,
Speaker 6: As I think, I don't have to know how to
Speaker 6: do this. I can be you know, I can't have
Speaker 6: an idea of how I'm going to do it, because
Speaker 6: we're not prepared when we're betrayed, frightened, we have loss,
Speaker 6: we you know, and and it's just you're just present
Speaker 6: and honest and truthful. And I know when my when
Speaker 6: my grandmother actually passed shortly before I was, I was
Speaker 6: living in a in the hospice with her and I
Speaker 6: had to leave to go do a job. And she
Speaker 6: was like, you have to go. This is what you're
Speaker 6: calling you, this is you know, and gave me her
Speaker 6: to go. And I remember sitting on the floor next
Speaker 6: to her chair, and I knew it was going to
Speaker 6: be my last conversation face to face. And let me
Speaker 6: tell you, I did not sleep the night before, I
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, I gotta ask her questions. I gotta
Speaker 6: I gotta find out you know something about her and
Speaker 6: Grandpa I got to you know you. I was just
Speaker 6: so anxious of like, how do I tell her everything
Speaker 6: I need to say? Like do I write? Do I?
Speaker 6: And that moment came, and man, do I remember it
Speaker 6: so clearly. And we looked at each other and were sobbing,
Speaker 6: of course, and all that came out of our mouth
Speaker 6: was I love you. I was like, I just I
Speaker 6: love you, and it's all encompassing. And we both knew,
Speaker 6: we knew the life and the bond and the memories
Speaker 6: and everything that I was, you know, going to carry forward.
Speaker 6: And it was that was those were the only words.
Speaker 6: We're just repeating I love you, I love you, and
Speaker 6: crying into each other's arms. And I gave her a
Speaker 6: kiss and I left, and I just thought how perfect.
Speaker 6: I could never have prepared for that. When I watched
Speaker 6: this episode back, I give myself, you know, I was
Speaker 6: saying this to Rob earlier. I give myself some grace
Speaker 6: because you know, that twenty three year old girl was
Speaker 6: going through so much and really didn't have any idea
Speaker 6: what loss was, but me as thirty nine. Now I
Speaker 6: know I'm me and Loss are best friends, and nothing
Speaker 6: could prepare me for the way I think I'm going
Speaker 6: to be strong, or the way i think I'm going
Speaker 6: to say things when I'm going through and the expectation
Speaker 6: I have for the moments or for myself. And it's
Speaker 6: so interesting that I come back to that Mammock quote
Speaker 6: even in my own life, just to be like, I
Speaker 6: don't have to know how to do this. I just
Speaker 6: want to be present and honest and in life, in
Speaker 6: my heart, and that's it. That's all I can do.
Speaker 4: Wish I had I wish we had both had this
Speaker 4: quote when we were doing the show, because I like,
Speaker 4: you found myself in situations where I was way you know,
Speaker 4: like this show all of a sudden, Like we signed
Speaker 4: on and they're like, great, your wife's super dead, you're.
Speaker 6: Going through a divorce and you're twenty three. I'm like,
Speaker 6: I would have to listen, I've now been through a divorce.
Speaker 6: Oh you know what I.
Speaker 1: Mean, no idea what a divorce would be Like, I'm like, well.
Speaker 6: Thank god I didn't know, because this would have these
Speaker 6: episodes would have been real different.
Speaker 4: But how much it would have been so freeing to
Speaker 4: know that though, right, because back then I thought, like
Speaker 4: I would, I imposed all of this imaginary pressure on myself.
Speaker 4: This is what grief has to look like. Tears equal sadness,
Speaker 4: you know. And that's just like the opposite way to
Speaker 4: approach being just in the moment and present. And like
Speaker 4: you said, it's like I have to remind myself just
Speaker 4: in day to day life of like I have to
Speaker 4: give myself permission to be a human being. Yeah, which
Speaker 4: means it's going to be constantly imperfect and it's going
Speaker 4: to be messy, you know. But it's like, am I
Speaker 4: trending in the right direction? Am I towards growth? Great?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And all the hiccups are okay, you know, but like
Speaker 4: when I catch myself being hard on myself, it's like, hey, Bud,
Speaker 4: you get to be a human being today. This is
Speaker 4: part for the course.
Speaker 7: Okay, Okay, yes, still figuring it out. At any age,
Speaker 7: you're still figuring it out, you know, you know more
Speaker 7: than you did yesterday, hopefully, But like none of us,
Speaker 7: I think really kind of are going to leave this
Speaker 7: earth like totally exalted being, Like I got that in the.
Speaker 1: Bag, you know, do it all over.
Speaker 6: I'd be so good at this.
Speaker 4: As people probably haven't gone to therapy, like haven't looked inward.
Speaker 4: If they're like I crushed it ten out of ten,
Speaker 4: it's like, but did you did you ask around? Speaking
Speaker 4: of work in progress, there was a hilarious moment. There
Speaker 4: was two very funny, unintentional moments in this episode for me,
Speaker 4: which I greatly appreciated. And speaking of just being a
Speaker 4: human and trying to learn, there was a beautiful moment
Speaker 4: when Haley's making the chicken dumpling soup back at home.
Speaker 4: It's at the top of the scene. Joe, I don't
Speaker 4: know if you've caught this. You go to take a
Speaker 4: little sip of it, and you're using a ladle that
Speaker 4: has a hole in it, so all of the water
Speaker 4: pours out through the hole and you just kind of
Speaker 4: like at the edge of it.
Speaker 1: I totally caught it.
Speaker 4: I laughed so hard, going like, I know set deck
Speaker 4: had a ladle or a spoon on set. Why did
Speaker 4: we give her the one thing not designed to hold liquid?
Speaker 1: No, this was this was notoriously one of my constant
Speaker 1: thorn in my sides was not having a working set.
Speaker 1: There was all kinds of facade, but I would open
Speaker 1: cupboards and there would be nothing there, and it was
Speaker 1: so frustrating because I would go in for a rehearsal
Speaker 1: and I might have opened the cupboard. I might not have,
Speaker 1: but in the scene I'm like, actually, if I'm over here,
Speaker 1: I'm going to make myself a mug of tea or
Speaker 1: whatever and open it up. And it was just a
Speaker 1: completely empty cupboard. So I actually am not convinced that
Speaker 1: there was any kind of spoon on set. I think
Speaker 1: perhaps I asked for one at the last moment and
Speaker 1: that's what was available. He said, great, let's go.
Speaker 4: They were like could you just use your hand and
Speaker 4: you're like, no, it's boiling liquid and a spoon, and
Speaker 4: this was like this is all we got. The other
Speaker 4: really funny moment actually happened in the kitchen. It's when
Speaker 4: you are prior to I think your mom passing. Yes,
Speaker 4: you are in the kitchen chopping vegetables and you're having
Speaker 4: a very hard moment and Nathan walks in and he's
Speaker 4: like are you okay, and you chop your thumb or
Speaker 4: your finger and you're like oh, and he's like is
Speaker 4: it bad and you're like, yeah, it's bad. And you
Speaker 4: have like a rag over it, and then you proceed
Speaker 4: to put your hands on your face to talk with
Speaker 4: your hands, to put your hands on on your face again,
Speaker 4: And I just love going and onions.
Speaker 1: I was chopping onions.
Speaker 4: Yes, I just wish we could play the reality of
Speaker 4: it where there is just blood on your face. There's
Speaker 4: blood on him. Because you're gesticulating wildly that that killed me.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, and onions in my eyes, Like
Speaker 1: I put my hands immediately up to my eyes, like hello.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like caring at the end of the movie.
Speaker 4: Not gorgeous, perfectly lit, perfect hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Fail.
Speaker 7: I watched you doing the chopping too, and you're chopping
Speaker 7: like so pervently that I was like, she's going to
Speaker 7: chop her finger, thinking it was I didn't know that
Speaker 7: that was the scene that was about to play out,
Speaker 7: but I was like, she's actually gonna chop ank careful.
Speaker 1: Oh god, Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 6: I remember reading the episode and thinking, is this just
Speaker 6: going to be like three whaling sisters, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean? Like that was my idea of well off
Speaker 6: her mom's dying. How are we even going to speak
Speaker 6: through these scenes? Like I mean, and you know it
Speaker 6: just I I find myself so uh. When I was
Speaker 6: watching it so like taken back instantly to those versions
Speaker 6: of us and the conversations on the side of set
Speaker 6: and all of the stories behind the scenes, you know
Speaker 6: that play in like a separate movie the whole time
Speaker 6: I'm watching at the very end, when we were this
Speaker 6: is so not funny, but I had to share it
Speaker 6: with my mom. When we were you were dumping joy
Speaker 6: the ashes and the wind.
Speaker 1: Was blowing ashes.
Speaker 6: Guys, Mom's ashes. We're all over our black boats and
Speaker 6: we and they're like, you're crying, You're sad, and we
Speaker 6: are just like, guys, we can't our mom is all
Speaker 6: over us.
Speaker 1: Like, do you also remember how full that earn was?
Speaker 8: Mom was heavy, Like I don't mean to be crass,
Speaker 8: but like it was so like we kept I remember
Speaker 8: when they said action, it was like we're finally going
Speaker 8: to pour it, and we start to pour, and then
Speaker 8: it's like there's more, and there's more, and.
Speaker 1: Went on and on to the point where I was like,
Speaker 1: I either have to laugh or cry right now, this
Speaker 1: is so absurd, but the camera's still rolling, so I'm
Speaker 1: just going to keep dumping and just become overwhelmed. With
Speaker 1: the fact that this is so much more than I expected,
Speaker 1: and I allowed it to make me, you know, cry more,
Speaker 1: but objectively I wanted to laugh because it was so absurd.
Speaker 4: Apparently she was cremated with all of her earthly possessions
Speaker 4: to everything.
Speaker 5: Have very Egyptian of her.
Speaker 6: When we talk about not being able to be prepared
Speaker 6: like that moment, I was the same. I was like,
Speaker 6: oh gosh, I've never you know, what is this going
Speaker 6: to be like? And it was between the wind and
Speaker 6: the amount of ashes and the fact you were still
Speaker 6: dumping like two three minutes in and it was all
Speaker 6: over us, I was the same. I was just like,
Speaker 6: this is this comedy?
Speaker 1: Like, is this okay? Honked right now?
Speaker 6: It was one of those that when I watched it,
Speaker 6: I had to share the anecdote with my mom last
Speaker 6: night and I was just like, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's because remember, we didn't rehearse it
Speaker 1: because we wanted to be surprised. We wanted to like
Speaker 1: experience the emotions, so we didn't dump any ashes on purpose.
Speaker 7: So there were rehearsal ashes in there, and that's it.
Speaker 1: That's what we should have done. Some rehearsal ashes. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but that was rough and it was it
Speaker 1: was all over us and then we're like do we cut?
Speaker 1: Do we react to the fact that we rush of
Speaker 1: brush it home?
Speaker 6: What do we do? Just cry on each other?
Speaker 1: God? Also, who were all those people? And where were
Speaker 1: the rest of our siblings?
Speaker 6: Do you remember? Like they were like okay, so like
Speaker 6: these three people are going to stand behind you, like
Speaker 6: we'll assume these are kind of like your brothers or.
Speaker 1: You know that's right.
Speaker 6: I never understood, you know, the order of when we
Speaker 6: were born, how many siblings we had, who our parents were. Ye,
Speaker 6: I would have been a senior when you were in
Speaker 6: high school. So then people will bring it up to
Speaker 6: me like, well, why didn't they show you? It was
Speaker 6: like because I wasn't on the show, but yeah, you
Speaker 6: know there's all of that. They were like, so, well,
Speaker 6: cluster some people behind you just choosing some of our
Speaker 6: background extras is like and what these people are? Oh
Speaker 6: high sibling, you know, but we're not going to interact
Speaker 6: with them, will only interact with each other all last minute.
Speaker 4: Whatever we paid for Landslide was worth it. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: I gotta say that's one thing this show consistently Knocks
Speaker 4: out of the Park is the score. It's just it's
Speaker 4: so good. And then I think there's a Shania Twain
Speaker 4: song that played after that that was Cheryl Crow. Cheryl.
Speaker 1: Now, I think I actually recorded that. I might be
Speaker 1: mixing up memories, but I know I recorded it. I
Speaker 1: think they asked me to record that song for this
Speaker 1: episode in case they couldn't afford the Cheryl Crow version.
Speaker 5: I feel like I vaguely remember that story.
Speaker 1: And then they did end up getting Cheryl's Cheryl's version
Speaker 1: of it, which is great, but I was also kind
Speaker 1: of like, I want to do.
Speaker 6: My version of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how lucky they are that they just had you
Speaker 4: on the bench that they could go, yeah, that you
Speaker 4: were someone's plan. B Like, how fortunate for the producers
Speaker 4: that they had you in the back pocket you can
Speaker 4: cover usb.
Speaker 5: Why didn't they ask you a weird thing?
Speaker 4: I wondered the same thing, and then I remembered I
Speaker 4: am absolutely tone deaf, so that it's either that or
Speaker 4: my availability was just not great back then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was.
Speaker 6: Another song too. There was a song as It Opened
Speaker 6: your Eyes. I forget is it Maybe it's Trent DApps.
Speaker 6: I forget who sings it? But I remember at the
Speaker 6: time discovering that song and hearing that it was going
Speaker 6: to be in the episode and listening to it before
Speaker 6: we shot the scene where our mother actually like passes. Oh,
Speaker 6: and that was like just a stab in the stomach
Speaker 6: to like hear over and over open your eyes because
Speaker 6: she was do that. And just like the thoughts.
Speaker 1: How beautiful this thing that Mike wrote in of Jamie
Speaker 1: bringing in his solar system stars, Oh, that just broke
Speaker 1: my heart. It was so beautiful.
Speaker 4: Well about the make a wish, you know, he's like,
Speaker 4: I have Grandma to thank for that because she told
Speaker 4: me to make a wish. And then when he brought
Speaker 4: that in full circle, it was so nice.
Speaker 6: Yep, just like the honest kid moment of you know,
Speaker 6: him being able to like tell that she's sick and
Speaker 6: she's going to die and just there there isn't like
Speaker 6: you know, this breakdown of like an adult understanding of
Speaker 6: you know, how it's going to change his life. But
Speaker 6: just that scene where he's like she's gonna die, you know,
Speaker 6: and there's like this gravity to it that a kid
Speaker 6: brings that is so honest and raw, and you know,
Speaker 6: then there's still this beautiful hope filled moment where he
Speaker 6: brings it in and he's like make the wish Grandma
Speaker 6: like being able to give her what she gave him.
Speaker 6: You know, that was so it was so special.
Speaker 1: Our show was good at that bringing things around full circle,
Speaker 1: remembering things from a long time ago. I mean, even
Speaker 1: what you were saying earlier about the Taylor storyline, like lindsay,
Speaker 1: when you came in in the beginning, I mean, was
Speaker 1: it season two that you first came in.
Speaker 5: I want to say it was too.
Speaker 1: I think I feel like it was, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: had just gotten married, right, Yeah, I think so. But
Speaker 1: to see that arc all the way through and to
Speaker 1: watch your this redemption arc, it's just so interesting. It's
Speaker 1: so interesting the choices you made, and that they really
Speaker 1: allowed you to run with that too. I feel like
Speaker 1: I love that. I feel like they just gave you space,
Speaker 1: like here's your lines, just we trust you.
Speaker 5: I was so yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean that's such a beautiful thing that they didn't, like,
Speaker 7: you know, with this arc, didn't just pigeonhole Taylor, Yeah,
Speaker 7: and actually just wanted to see her experience and emotion
Speaker 7: and human side.
Speaker 1: It was so interesting to me the roles that each
Speaker 1: of us played, and the way that you got to
Speaker 1: just back off and say I don't want to deal
Speaker 1: with this. No, I can't believe you're first it was
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're giving up, and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to engage with this. I'm not going to enable you
Speaker 1: in this giving up of life. I refuse, And how
Speaker 1: that actually turned out to be just an indicator of
Speaker 1: your own pain. I wanted to see a whole movie
Speaker 1: of it, like it was. It's such an interesting character arc.
Speaker 1: Was that fun for you to be able to come
Speaker 1: in and every single time I feel like there was
Speaker 1: something new because you were always so good at creating
Speaker 1: layers underneath what was on top, Like, yeah, Taylor's speed
Speaker 1: is bitchy, but there was so many layers. There were
Speaker 1: so many layers of pain underneath it. Like how did
Speaker 1: you manage that all the time? How did you manage
Speaker 1: for us to still love you and want you back
Speaker 1: and still like be interested in this girl and all
Speaker 1: of her issues and relate to Taylor and yet also
Speaker 1: be on the surface just crazy and bitching.
Speaker 7: That is very sweet of you to say all of that.
Speaker 7: I think there's just you know, I always, no matter
Speaker 7: where I was in my life or my career. I
Speaker 7: just always tried to be as like true as possible
Speaker 7: and bring all of the layers of me as much
Speaker 7: as I could access anyway at that time and space.
Speaker 7: But I think joy honestly, it's just like the levels
Speaker 7: and layers of pain in my own life experience, and
Speaker 7: you know, wanting to get to feel that and excavate
Speaker 7: that as an actress too was one of the reasons
Speaker 7: I liked being an actress. It's like, if I I
Speaker 7: have a hard time experiencing this in my life, or
Speaker 7: this is under the surface but it's not healed, and
Speaker 7: I get to play a character that also brings that out.
Speaker 7: It's a It's a cathartic experience.
Speaker 1: That's such a gift, though, because it's not always the case.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of actors that put on
Speaker 1: a mask and they go play a character because they're
Speaker 1: trying to actually escape from whatever their current pain is
Speaker 1: or the thing that they're trying to process through it.
Speaker 1: It's a real gift that you have and that you
Speaker 1: give to the audience to be able to allow people
Speaker 1: to see in it's almost permission to process their own
Speaker 1: pain too, like you in whatever whatever you're doing wherever
Speaker 1: you are in life, don't shove it down in order
Speaker 1: to perform and put something else on. Just use it,
Speaker 1: like let's keep working through it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think that's what we're taught so
Speaker 7: much in life in our culture, is to just shove
Speaker 7: it down, you know, like you don't really have that
Speaker 7: emotion like get to work, like just live your.
Speaker 5: Life, but on a healing journey.
Speaker 7: And if you're a spiritual person, which I am, it's
Speaker 7: like what is life actually for? What's the deeper meaning?
Speaker 7: Who am I as I'm here? What am I learning?
Speaker 7: How am I growing? And as much as everything in
Speaker 7: us wants to escape and run away and hide like one,
Speaker 7: that doesn't help.
Speaker 6: You always have to.
Speaker 7: Deal with your shit either now or at a later date,
Speaker 7: So like why don't you man woman.
Speaker 4: Up and do it?
Speaker 7: But also it's just like what, you know, what is
Speaker 7: my own legacy for me as I'm here, you know,
Speaker 7: and to me as I've gone through everything in life,
Speaker 7: It's not just like making money being an actor doing this,
Speaker 7: doing that. It's like it's what is my essence? Like
Speaker 7: what what do I get to take with me? What
Speaker 7: do these molecules get to take with me when I
Speaker 7: transition out of my body, you know, and I used
Speaker 7: acting to do that, I use my life to do
Speaker 7: that a relationship. It makes it very difficult sometimes for
Speaker 7: the people around me. Unfortunately, it's not an easy journey
Speaker 7: and it's not one that everybody wants to take on.
Speaker 7: But this is my life mission as I'm here, so
Speaker 7: thank you for seeing that.
Speaker 4: And also, messy is fun to watch. People who have
Speaker 4: it altogether are boring. Yes, it's the shelf life of
Speaker 4: someone who has all of their ducks in a row
Speaker 4: is very short. Whereas I think as a viewer, we
Speaker 4: are drawn to messiness. I think because we relate to it,
Speaker 4: we see ourselves in it, and it's also just more interesting.
Speaker 4: So that was I thought very appealing the way that
Speaker 4: sort of your trajectory was over this last bit. And also,
Speaker 4: and this is just a testament sort of how you
Speaker 4: played Taylor. There was always sort of it was kind
Speaker 4: of touched upon. I think Joy called you a firework.
Speaker 4: There was always an unpredictability. And the only other character
Speaker 4: on the show who has a similar kind of vibe
Speaker 4: is Dan Scott. In that when Dan Scott comes on
Speaker 4: a scene, I'm like, oh, that to happen, and it
Speaker 4: was the same thing. Like you'd come on the screen,
Speaker 4: I'd be like, oh, Hurricane Taylor are about to get
Speaker 4: into and then you're like French and Quinn's exit the
Speaker 4: dinner table. I'm like, damn, I did not see that come,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like it was great just
Speaker 4: because the character has already written so big that I
Speaker 4: think you just you wisely went like, well, then I'm
Speaker 4: going to take big swings and I'm just going to
Speaker 4: let them pull me back. And it made for this
Speaker 4: really fun experience of watching her as being like I'm
Speaker 4: going to lean in because I want to know what
Speaker 4: she's going to do next well, And it was so fun.
Speaker 7: For me because you know, so often you don't get
Speaker 7: to play and all of that and like do all
Speaker 7: of these quote unquote wrong, bad, extreme things, and like
Speaker 7: Taylor lived in that space and so for me to
Speaker 7: get to go in and play like the different levels
Speaker 7: of that, how fun.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's very beginning. I'm like, she's my favorite
Speaker 6: sister because you ground her emotions in something that me
Speaker 6: as my you know, thirty nine year old self. I understand,
Speaker 6: I see the pain, I see you know where things
Speaker 6: are coming from but your reactions to it, you know,
Speaker 6: while they may be big and firework, you ground it
Speaker 6: so beautifully. It's so funny because I at the time
Speaker 6: when we were shooting, was like, oh, I'm just supposed
Speaker 6: to hate her, and like she's bitchy, and so we're bitchy,
Speaker 6: and you know what I mean. Like that was the
Speaker 6: dynamic of me not I don't have Me and my
Speaker 6: sister are best friends, so you know, I didn't have
Speaker 6: that experience or understanding of that with a sister, and
Speaker 6: so I just kind of leaned in on like, well whatever,
Speaker 6: you know, Quinn thinks like she's not going to try
Speaker 6: to understand her. But it was such a different experience
Speaker 6: watching it, you know, and seeing you and being like, wow,
Speaker 6: this is stellar, Like this is so cool that I
Speaker 6: know and I can see everything under the surface, even
Speaker 6: if your reactions are this, you know, it's like I
Speaker 6: know what, I know what this really is about. So
Speaker 6: it was it was really beautiful.
Speaker 4: And I think that that kind of speaks to where
Speaker 4: we were at in life versus like where we are now,
Speaker 4: and that I think it is a much younger, I
Speaker 4: would say, less experienced, perhaps immature approach just to be
Speaker 4: able to label someone with one word that person's a
Speaker 4: bit yeah, and you get older and you have some
Speaker 4: life experience and you're like, there's a lot more to
Speaker 4: that story. Oh yeah, yeah, that is symptomatic of a
Speaker 4: whole different thing going on, you know. So it's kind
Speaker 4: of funny that, like back then when we were playing
Speaker 4: it, it was like, oh, yeah, she's that's just who she is,
Speaker 4: and now's adults were like, no, it's not no.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 6: Chan.
Speaker 1: Tell do you remember what happens for Quinn after this,
Speaker 1: like in the next few episodes, how the grief kind
Speaker 1: of like, I mean, is she immediately just take Oh
Speaker 1: Rob's laughing. Is this because the whole Katie thing?
Speaker 4: Yes, laughing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't get to grieve.
Speaker 1: We just do a rabbit hole of right.
Speaker 6: How have we not talked about the fact that in
Speaker 6: between all of this, Clay is off and this is
Speaker 6: I didn't realize this was the birth of the Katie story.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was like I was kind of shocked
Speaker 6: a little bit about it was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 6: like this is where it started. And then so like
Speaker 6: we that was a totally different tangent. I don't even
Speaker 6: I don't even remember having an episode, not that I
Speaker 6: would remember all of it where Quinn is still grieving.
Speaker 6: You know, I feel like we're just dumped into the
Speaker 6: next tumble dryer of drama.
Speaker 4: I know for sure you don't grieve in seven nineteen
Speaker 4: because it's your gallery opening. So the entire focus is
Speaker 4: the gallery opening.
Speaker 1: That's the next episode.
Speaker 4: That's the next one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: So I don't. I mean, I think maybe at one
Speaker 4: point it's like we may we think we may we
Speaker 4: off handedly say like your mom, would I love this?
Speaker 4: Or something?
Speaker 1: We must be in that. Of course, it's an honor
Speaker 1: of her.
Speaker 4: Everything else just kind of moves moves forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this Katie stuff happened so much faster. The fact
Speaker 1: that she was in the second scene of the episode
Speaker 1: was really with this random roommate who we never see again.
Speaker 1: It was very strange. I don't know, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't like this. I don't like this storyline that's coming.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 4: No, it's I will also tell you I don't like
Speaker 4: it either. I remember when they said you're you're going
Speaker 4: to have a stalker, and I was like, cool, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's a fun reversal. The guy is going to get
Speaker 4: stopped for a change.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: You know who you getting And they're like, great news,
Speaker 4: we we got her back. Amanda Schule's coming back, and
Speaker 4: like wait what, but don't worry, We're going to put
Speaker 4: her in a wig for an episode or.
Speaker 1: An episode then she'll her.
Speaker 6: I mean, it was like, okay, guys.
Speaker 4: It's just odd to me again. It's that she like
Speaker 4: she's being scouted by agents, which means she is clearly
Speaker 4: playing at a pretty high level. And she meets this
Speaker 4: guy and somehow goes straight up cuckoo for cocoa puffs
Speaker 4: and just decides like this is minuw everything. I agree
Speaker 4: with you, Joy. The roommate was weird. I think it
Speaker 4: would have been more effective if she was just talking
Speaker 4: to herself. It would have explained this craziness.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, because do we ever see this girl again?
Speaker 4: Well, she in seven nineteen. Here's the funny thing. In
Speaker 4: seven nineteen she talks to her in the room again,
Speaker 4: but we don't even see her.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd rather at least just be crazy right
Speaker 1: off the back, because otherwise, now she's got this person
Speaker 1: in her life who's enabling her crazy and then we
Speaker 1: never address that, which is strange.
Speaker 4: And then like the roommate should have been like eating
Speaker 4: paint chips, so you'd go like, oh, they're both clearly crazy, right, oh, Lauren,
Speaker 4: you know. But and the funniest thing was that at
Speaker 4: the end of the episode, after she has researched Clay
Speaker 4: and apparently even though there was zero people at Sarah's funeral,
Speaker 4: there is a page about her memorial where people are
Speaker 4: like miss you girl, rip queen, you know, and she
Speaker 4: found that she's dyed her hair, and then like, it's
Speaker 4: not already so obvious, we just brought the same actress back.
Speaker 4: She turns to the roommate who and she goes like, plus,
Speaker 4: I have a feeling. She takes off the towel, reveals
Speaker 4: Amanda Schule's hair. I'm his type, and then she kind
Speaker 4: of is in the exact same pose and does the
Speaker 4: same smile that's on the computer. And then the camera,
Speaker 4: as if it's not wildly clear to everyone in the audience,
Speaker 4: the camera pans to the computer like, see, don't they
Speaker 4: look alike? Yes, it's like hat on a hat. What
Speaker 4: are we doing?
Speaker 6: Guys? By the way, she's looking at a picture of
Speaker 6: herself as you know what I mean, She's like, we're
Speaker 6: just the same, Like really, Also.
Speaker 4: She had no moment of going, holy cow, I look
Speaker 4: exactly like his way, Like, she didn't balk at the
Speaker 4: fact that she might actually have an identical twin in
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 1: This was so badly done. I'm sorry. The fact that
Speaker 1: they could have, Like, if they're gonna do this for real,
Speaker 1: first of all, why not draw it out? Why not
Speaker 1: have her seem like a normal a normal girl made
Speaker 1: me actually Diemanda's hair brown, Like is it that hard?
Speaker 1: Can you not do like a rinse? Anyway, if they
Speaker 1: had to have Amanda back, could she not have had
Speaker 1: an accent or like a completely different personality, maybe some
Speaker 1: kind of something that they could have let her explore
Speaker 1: a different side of her acting abilities that she's clearly so,
Speaker 1: you know, she's so talented. And then why couldn't it
Speaker 1: have been a real slow burn, Like when you meet
Speaker 1: somebody who's a little off their rocker, you don't always
Speaker 1: notice it right away. You kind of think, like, this
Speaker 1: person's fun or they're a little wild, Just get like
Speaker 1: little clues here and there, and then eventually, maybe like
Speaker 1: six episodes in, she dyes her hair and like, oh,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's right, you're oh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to is this is freaking you out?
Speaker 1: I can I can dye my hair back. I really
Speaker 1: didn't mean to freak out. I'm god, I'm so embarrassed.
Speaker 1: This is terrible, Like slow, make it creepy. Where's the
Speaker 1: hitchcock of it all? Where's the vertigo?
Speaker 4: Well that would acquire or require self awareness, which clearly
Speaker 4: she has absolutely none. She traded that in for more cuckoo.
Speaker 4: And like, there's a scene when we first reveal her
Speaker 4: and she turns herun on the tennis court. There's this
Speaker 4: there's the shot when we put cut back to Clay
Speaker 4: of him reacting and I remember just that was just
Speaker 4: Rob reacting to what was happening on the show, Like holy,
Speaker 4: we're actually doing this right now here we go okay,
Speaker 4: And then the fact that, like, you know, what would
Speaker 4: have made more sense is that Clay is just so
Speaker 4: caught off guard that he allows some sort of a
Speaker 4: romantic brief moment to happen, Like if there was anything
Speaker 4: that justified giving her a crumb, yeah, Because the thing
Speaker 4: that's weird is Clay is nothing but professional. He calls
Speaker 4: or he meets her in public to have a meeting.
Speaker 4: He quickly whether he was really interested or not doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: He quickly just goes, hey, I'm not your guy.
Speaker 6: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: She offers him a number. He goes, first of all,
Speaker 4: he should have said I have a girlfriend. Shame on you, Clay,
Speaker 4: but whatever. But then she offers the number, and he's like,
Speaker 4: ain't gonna happen, sister, I'm good. So it's odd.
Speaker 6: It's like, how do you just taking the number? Maybe
Speaker 6: had you just taken the number and been like, uh, yeah, okay,
Speaker 6: I'll deal with this later, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And all she knows is like Clay's cute and
Speaker 4: he drives a nice car, and she's like that's enough
Speaker 4: for me to throw my whole life away.
Speaker 5: I'm in, We're getting married.
Speaker 6: On how women are I.
Speaker 4: Mean on this show occasionally and also the fact that
Speaker 4: because this is one of those ones where it's like
Speaker 4: the movie Home Alone, like if you've seen the People
Speaker 4: Redo it where like it's home Alone. But Kevin just
Speaker 4: picks up the phone and like calls the hotel and
Speaker 4: calls his mom, and it's like the movie's over in
Speaker 4: thirty five seconds.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: This is one where it's like, I don't understand why
Speaker 4: Clayton go back to Quinn and absolutely download like, holy babe,
Speaker 4: you're never gonna believe this. Can I show you a picture?
Speaker 4: Like the fact The part that I bump on and
Speaker 4: it gets much worse than seven nineteen is that Clay
Speaker 4: treats it as if something inappropriate or untort has happened,
Speaker 4: and to the point where she shows up at the
Speaker 4: gallery and buya is a picture of Clay and Quinn goes, hey, Clay,
Speaker 4: I want to introduce you to the girl I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have to share you with, and Clay walks up and
Speaker 4: pretends like he hasn't met her.
Speaker 6: I need to watch them in nineteen, I don't remember
Speaker 6: that she came to the gallop and Quinn doesn't recognize her,
Speaker 6: Like Quinn hasn't poured over photos of Clay's dead ex wife.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, one has a moment of going like quin
Speaker 4: should have one hundred percent gon like what the hell?
Speaker 4: Who is that? And then like Clay grabs her by
Speaker 4: the arm and he's like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4: I told you like the way you would talk to
Speaker 4: a mistress.
Speaker 1: So it's like, buddy, God, guys, Suddy so.
Speaker 6: Joe, you asked if I was grieving. Obviously, I'm in
Speaker 6: such deep about my mother. I don't recognize this woman
Speaker 6: looks like his dad. I was just I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, we need to come up with a drinking
Speaker 1: game for the next for this whole storyline. There has
Speaker 1: to be something for this Katie storyline that we can
Speaker 1: all take shots every time it happens. We're going to
Speaker 1: figure it out.
Speaker 6: This goes into like next season, doesn't it. It's true.
Speaker 1: I just remember walking on set that day. You guys
Speaker 1: were in some kind of hurricane and the house is
Speaker 1: but you know, like trying to escape her in the
Speaker 1: house in the rain. But we were shooting on set,
Speaker 1: so it was like inside the studio and I watched
Speaker 1: it for probably half an hour and was like, this
Speaker 1: is so crazy.
Speaker 4: I gotta go.
Speaker 6: She like locks me in the house and hunts me down.
Speaker 6: It's like a whole thing. She tries to kill me.
Speaker 6: We shot outside, we shot at the pool at the stage.
Speaker 6: But I feel like I don't I have to look.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't really not know, but I feel like this
Speaker 6: goes into something happens like my revenge happens like in
Speaker 6: season eight.
Speaker 1: Geez that long?
Speaker 4: Well I know that. Yeah, I think I remember how
Speaker 4: this season ends for Clay and Quinn.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, I remember how it ends too. But then
Speaker 6: there's like I come back and like avenge us in
Speaker 6: eight with her.
Speaker 4: I couldn't remember that at all.
Speaker 1: Chantal, Did you and Amanda have fun?
Speaker 6: Yeah? We did, I mean, of course, you know, like
Speaker 6: we had. I mean, Amanda's just great. You know, we've
Speaker 6: seen her like in subsequent years and stuff, and it
Speaker 6: really was. I mean, it's difficult, I think, to play
Speaker 6: any villain and she's actually just such a lovely human
Speaker 6: being that God the hell were we going to do
Speaker 6: this one? But a lot of the stuff was so
Speaker 6: intense with her, and I like, you know, once we
Speaker 6: like actually realize what she's doing and she's she's great.
Speaker 6: You know. I felt lucky to like get to do
Speaker 6: such intense stuff with somebody that we had fun with.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie's one of those roles you have to go
Speaker 4: all in on and you can't. You can't hedge or
Speaker 4: worry about the way you look. You know, you just
Speaker 4: have to go go full psycho. Yeah, you know, which
Speaker 4: is very It's a far cry from who Amanda schul is,
Speaker 4: but she, to her credit, man she she went in
Speaker 4: to committed them what they wrote.
Speaker 6: That this is like in the midst of this episode,
Speaker 6: there is I guess, you know, sometimes I feel like
Speaker 6: we were always in our own storyline or whatever was happening,
Speaker 6: and we wouldn't be shooting on the same days. So
Speaker 6: when I watch, I'm like, oh my gosh, there's so
Speaker 6: much happening in everybody's life that they had to wasn't
Speaker 6: like they had a dedicated episode of every scene was,
Speaker 6: you know, our mother passing. So it's just so crazy
Speaker 6: to look back and be like, oh, cool, while mom
Speaker 6: was dying, you know, Clays out meeting the stalker that
Speaker 6: you know, we're going to jump into that storyline.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Yeah, so great.
Speaker 4: How about Mouth and Miss Lauren because I have big
Speaker 4: feelings around this. So what you don't know is at
Speaker 4: the end of seven seventeen it ended. So they've been
Speaker 4: doing this very weird dance now skills left for la
Speaker 4: earlier this season. So he and Miss Lauren just sort
Speaker 4: of broke up like it was this weird thing, and
Speaker 4: then we find out that they're like not even talking
Speaker 4: it's odd, and then like she just starts coming out
Speaker 4: and of course Millie had her terrible after school special
Speaker 4: drug story. So they broke up and and Miss Lauren
Speaker 4: just kind of start hanging out. And it was one
Speaker 4: of those ones where every time I watched a scene,
Speaker 4: I kept thinking, oh, are they about to kiss, because
Speaker 4: like I don't remember, you know, but the vibe is
Speaker 4: very like, what's happening in this room right now. So
Speaker 4: the way episode seven seventeen ended was with mouth saying
Speaker 4: to someone because there was a bunch of there was
Speaker 4: a whole through line of like seize the day, go
Speaker 4: after what you want, and so there was this misdirective
Speaker 4: mouth going like I want I want to date you,
Speaker 4: I want to take you out on a date. The
Speaker 4: reveal was he wasn't saying that to Millie. He was
Speaker 4: saying that to Miss Lauren. So at the top of
Speaker 4: this episode, I was bummed that it opened with him
Speaker 4: being like, oh, yeah, sorry, I was drunk, and yeah
Speaker 4: I was. First for a brief period, I was disappointed
Speaker 4: because it's like, we've been planting these seeds for like
Speaker 4: half a season. What are we doing with these two?
Speaker 4: And she's like, I'd rather be your wing man than
Speaker 4: your rebound. I'm like, all right, I respect that, I
Speaker 4: get that.
Speaker 1: But also they're out, like they're already out, didn't the
Speaker 1: when did this conversation? Like this kind of stuff always
Speaker 1: drives me crazy in a show when you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: but how did you get from point A to point
Speaker 1: B without having this conversation?
Speaker 4: First, clearly they drove separate cars, joy clear.
Speaker 1: So he asked her to go out with him. She
Speaker 1: just stood there staring at him at the door. And
Speaker 1: then what happened between that moment and now they're suddenly
Speaker 1: walking through Mayfair like the shopping center in Wilmington. They've
Speaker 1: got they've picked up food, So something happened. They're hanging out.
Speaker 4: You're totally right. I didn't even think about the night
Speaker 4: when it happened. Anyway, Oh wow, that's weird. Well we
Speaker 4: do get a bit of a payoff though, because later
Speaker 4: in the episode, Miss Lauren shows up at the apartment
Speaker 4: and she kiss his mouth and I'm like, let's go.
Speaker 4: This is exciting, and then Skills walks in the room. Okay,
Speaker 4: how did how did yeah?
Speaker 1: Did he in the suitcases? I feel like he was
Speaker 1: had with like a coke I feel like he just
Speaker 1: had a styrophoam cup and like something in his hands.
Speaker 4: So funny. Also the fact that they were their their
Speaker 4: entrances were spaced out by about twelve seconds. So I
Speaker 4: just love the fact that like they didn't see each
Speaker 4: other well opposite stairwells. She stopped to send a text message.
Speaker 4: But uh, it was fun writing that. I found myself going, yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, let's expe this, and then immediately it's like,
Speaker 4: and here's the crimp in that plan.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I think I think the whole thing feels a little
Speaker 1: daycopoged together and I.
Speaker 4: Wish does that mean piece together like randomly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's like messy glue.
Speaker 4: You don't know fashion words.
Speaker 1: No, it's glue. It's glue and like little pieces of
Speaker 1: cuts of pieces of paper that are cut up. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, we did it in like fourth grade, No
Speaker 1: did decopaj. Thanks.
Speaker 4: I went to public school, Lindsay. I don't think we
Speaker 4: used any frenchy decopaj.
Speaker 1: Okay, poster plasta. I don't know if.
Speaker 4: Dumb it down for the guys on the podcast, but.
Speaker 1: I liked that they had skills walk in. I think
Speaker 1: that it'll be interesting to see what happens. I just
Speaker 1: wish I believed it more. I wish I was more invested,
Speaker 1: that's all.
Speaker 6: I love how Rob is invested though, I mean he
Speaker 6: was like waiting.
Speaker 4: For this kissed Yeah, and I will tell you joy
Speaker 4: having watched the I've watched nineteen and so I have,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have a much larger discussion about it because
Speaker 4: more stuff goes down and I have a hot take.
Speaker 4: So there's your teaser for next episode. Listener, tune in
Speaker 4: to hear Mighana Soapbox about Miss Lauren and Mouth.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Well, okay, we have a couple things
Speaker 1: before we wrap up the episode. We've got a listener question.
Speaker 1: This is from Tina, and she wants to know if
Speaker 1: you had to pick a reality show to be on,
Speaker 1: what show would you choose? The Great British Baking Show?
Speaker 1: Even though I can't bake, I would want to be
Speaker 1: on that show. I also might go on Love is
Speaker 1: Blind because I think that's hilarious.
Speaker 6: I would want to host f Boy Island so good.
Speaker 6: I mean, listen, I can't host because I think that
Speaker 6: Nikki who hosted is amazing and she's wonderful. But like
Speaker 6: I just I fell in love with watching f Boy
Speaker 6: Island because this is this character study of like the
Speaker 6: new generation that I'm no longer a part of because
Speaker 6: I'm not going to I'm like, thank god, I don't
Speaker 6: have to date nowadays. This is like when you're in
Speaker 6: your twenties. This is terrible. So yeah, I would just
Speaker 6: want to like go host, you know, I wouldn't want
Speaker 6: to be on it.
Speaker 7: Lindsey the question if you didn't reality show question, No,
Speaker 7: I just say no. I would just say no. So
Speaker 7: many of them are so filled with drama. I would
Speaker 7: just like my nervous system would just shut down. But
Speaker 7: I think now that I've done a lot of like
Speaker 7: construction and home decorating and stuff, I was like, man,
Speaker 7: I should have just been filming all of this, Yes,
Speaker 7: scent it out and done that kind of reality show.
Speaker 7: That would be kind of cool.
Speaker 1: You could and you should do it. Robert.
Speaker 4: I think, listen, if summer's approaching, it's obviously going to
Speaker 4: be Survivor because there's no better way to get that
Speaker 4: hot summer mood than three weeks of starvation.
Speaker 5: I love Survivor by the way. We're just watching it
Speaker 5: last night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's our show here, so every week, I mean, listen,
Speaker 4: it's that show is difficult.
Speaker 6: What season are they on?
Speaker 4: We're watching forty six right now, but there's at least
Speaker 4: four we haven't seen, so they've they've done.
Speaker 7: Easy is like eighty years old by now, still looks,
Speaker 7: still look amazing.
Speaker 4: But I think I just I watched the show, and
Speaker 4: I know every when you hear contestants say it, they're like,
Speaker 4: it's so much easier to watch the show, like, because
Speaker 4: I was thinking about, like, could you imagine not there's
Speaker 4: a tribe right now it's like historically bad. They haven't
Speaker 4: had fire for ten days. They've been only eating coconuts
Speaker 4: for ten days, and they're not sleeping. Can you imagine
Speaker 4: what version of yourself you would do after no sleep
Speaker 4: and no food for ten days and you're losing every challenge.
Speaker 4: I would be the worst talking head because I would
Speaker 4: either just be crying hysterically or I would be pure vitual.
Speaker 4: It would be terrible.
Speaker 6: Have you guys ever watched the one I'm obsessed with?
Speaker 6: And yeah, you know, and I'm upset, Like they film
Speaker 6: themselves and there are times they like make puppets, like
Speaker 6: just like Wilson, Yes, just like Wilson, but they make
Speaker 6: puppets or they've painted their faces or and I'm like,
Speaker 6: because they're alone. And at the beginning, I was like,
Speaker 6: oh my gosh, I would love this, Like I'm such
Speaker 6: a hermit crab alone would I would totally wouldn't survive,
Speaker 6: but I would.
Speaker 1: Love to do this.
Speaker 6: And then you know, you get into like a few
Speaker 6: episodes and you're like, I don't think people were ever
Speaker 6: meant to be alone, like actually really truly sequestered, because
Speaker 6: almost all of them go a little cuckoo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little crazy. I'm going to change my answer. Though,
Speaker 1: History's Mysteries, You guys are inspiring me. The more that
Speaker 1: I think I would want to go do some kind
Speaker 1: of histories mystery show where I get to go like
Speaker 1: explore places that have to do with historical archaeological sites
Speaker 1: and find out things about history that we never knew.
Speaker 1: I think that would be really fun.
Speaker 6: And I try to choose that over being on Love
Speaker 6: is Blind.
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. Yes, absolutely, yes, sign me up
Speaker 1: to travel.
Speaker 4: I would you know, if we're gonna change answers, I
Speaker 4: would say if I was hosting a show anything food related,
Speaker 4: like phit me on Great British Bakeoff, Iron Chef. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'll even do beat Body.
Speaker 6: I'll do the Great British Gluten Free Bake Off. I'll
Speaker 6: do I mean where I can have all the gluten
Speaker 6: free treats that people try to make. I'm down.
Speaker 1: Okay, do we want to spin a wheel?
Speaker 4: Let's spin a wheel?
Speaker 5: What is spinning a wheel?
Speaker 4: You're about to find out. Lindsay mckinnons.
Speaker 1: You know, in high school when they have the most
Speaker 1: Likely Too's at the end of the year book. All right,
Speaker 1: so this is our most likely too. So you choose
Speaker 1: who in real life of our cast, and then who
Speaker 1: of the characters in the in the cast are most
Speaker 1: likely to host their own talk show. That's really funny.
Speaker 4: Well listen, I mean Dan Scott's the layup answer for characters, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, I think Mouth could come in a
Speaker 1: hot second place. I could see Mouth hosting his own
Speaker 1: talk show. Yes, yeah, I mean I don't know in
Speaker 1: real life.
Speaker 6: I mean, in real life it's Robbed Come on, give
Speaker 6: me both of you.
Speaker 4: Joy. Would you want to No?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't. I just did. Kelly Clarkson and I
Speaker 1: haven't done anything that's that fast paced before. Like I'm
Speaker 1: more of a drop in conversation. And I realized leaving
Speaker 1: that it was the first show I'd ever done that
Speaker 1: was that, like, you have to just get your thing
Speaker 1: out in soundbites. It's got you have five minutes to
Speaker 1: say everything that you need to say, and it is
Speaker 1: a skill that I don't have. And to have multiple
Speaker 1: people come in throughout an entire day and you shooting
Speaker 1: for you do two episodes a day is what she does,
Speaker 1: I think, and you get like three to five minutes
Speaker 1: with each person. That just sounds miserable to me. It's
Speaker 1: like all small talk all day long. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 6: But Rob does such a good job of I always
Speaker 6: found this from like day one of meeting. You like
Speaker 6: the references that you can pull from years and years
Speaker 6: even before you were born, and then you like definitely
Speaker 6: make jokes and sound bites. I'm like, it is a
Speaker 6: skill that I don't have either. I'm like a long
Speaker 6: winded take you on a journey, yeah, I mean you'll
Speaker 6: end up at the answer somewhere. But like Rob is
Speaker 6: so good, You're so good at like the comedy, but
Speaker 6: then having the heart and you know, the sound bite
Speaker 6: moments and you know, looping in historical things about boys
Speaker 6: to men, even though you know whatever the historical moments.
Speaker 1: Boy that you just combined those two things in a sentence,
Speaker 1: This is my favorite history.
Speaker 5: From the nineties.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for saying that. I give all the
Speaker 4: credit to high functioning anxiety.
Speaker 5: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, childhood trauma and high functioning anxiety.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: So we also do an honorable mention, which is just
Speaker 4: sort of like your shout out of the one thing
Speaker 4: you really liked the episode. Maybe, yeah, your favorite, your
Speaker 4: favorite takeaway. Maybe it's something we haven't discussed as much.
Speaker 6: I mean, honorable mention for me is to mom like
Speaker 6: she was, like you said, she was the glue. She
Speaker 6: was the glue of it all that and I could
Speaker 6: see us all looking like sisters, and that was our
Speaker 6: mom and she was our glue. So that's my honorable mention.
Speaker 1: I love that. Well, I mean, I've complimented both of
Speaker 1: you enough to say that you both did an exceptional
Speaker 1: job in this episode through all the grief and everything
Speaker 1: that we had to process through. So I'll give my
Speaker 1: honorable mention then to yourself to Jana Kramer. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine to myself to Jana? She she always surprises me.
Speaker 1: She's one of those another one of those actors where
Speaker 1: you never quite know what to expect. It's a different
Speaker 1: type of unpredictability because of the nature of the character.
Speaker 1: But she was much more grounded in this episode. Uh,
Speaker 1: this character was so much more. She just keeps dropping
Speaker 1: into better and better versions of herself. And I think
Speaker 1: Jane has been really masterful at that arc, going from
Speaker 1: someone who started out almost as wild and crazy as
Speaker 1: our friend Katie to going you know, much more mellowing out,
Speaker 1: going through her own dramatic grief trauma journey and finding
Speaker 1: herself into a place of like some semblance of peace.
Speaker 1: And I'm really enjoying watching her. Every time she doesn't screen,
Speaker 1: it's like getting better and better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's great. It's been nice to see her get
Speaker 4: to have levels, you know, because initially it was just
Speaker 4: the only two speeds were high high and low low.
Speaker 4: You know, it was very manic with her and that's
Speaker 4: so tough to play. And now that she gets to
Speaker 4: do some smaller stuff, you know, you see that she's very,
Speaker 4: very good you know, she brings it my honorable mention.
Speaker 4: I know we've talked about at Land, but it would
Speaker 4: be the quartet of the James Women. I'd say, the
Speaker 4: three of you and Best. I mean, you guys are
Speaker 4: this whole episode and everyone brought it. It was all
Speaker 4: so good. It was also just so grounded. None of
Speaker 4: it felt like it was a push or a pull.
Speaker 4: It all felt like like the you know, the audience
Speaker 4: got to come to you and it was believable. And
Speaker 4: like I said, I think there's so many entry points
Speaker 4: for people to relate their own experiences of grief and
Speaker 4: loss between the three of you and then just the
Speaker 4: way Best played it. So yeah, man, hats off to
Speaker 4: the four of you. Y'all crushed it.
Speaker 5: Thanks working with you girls too.
Speaker 7: Like I always felt good about our scenes and what
Speaker 7: was being brought to the scenes and the openness and
Speaker 7: the willingness to play and feel and all of that.
Speaker 7: You know, sometimes with actors or scenes you can feel
Speaker 7: blockages or they have all their own stuff going on.
Speaker 7: But I feel both of you always showed up present
Speaker 7: and to play and to like get your hands dirty,
Speaker 7: and that makes life so much easier, you know, especially
Speaker 7: with these kinds of scenes.
Speaker 1: Thanks. Yeah, I feel that we bought you too, you too, Chateau.
Speaker 4: All right, so we'll see you all in another four years?
Speaker 4: Is that what we said.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we got the three of us together,
Speaker 1: the four of us, Rob, I'm so glad that you
Speaker 1: helped to facilitate all this too, and just to have
Speaker 1: the three James sisters together felt really amazing.
Speaker 4: Thanks for letting me sep over.
Speaker 1: Guys.
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