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Speaker 2: Yes, I love it, even front four three, Front four

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Speaker 1: Steve next to me to protect me from any like

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Speaker 4: It's just a very uneven distribution.

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Speaker 5: I got you no its proportion wise, we have to

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Speaker 5: keep it blocked up. We get it blocked up for

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Speaker 5: thirty five inch arms right here. Patrick, allow us to

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Speaker 5: be your shield.

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Speaker 1: So we we divide the shows every week. If you're

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Speaker 1: new on Wednesdays to AFC and NFC home teams, this

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Speaker 1: will be the final doubleheader week of the year. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the final London game of the year, so

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Speaker 1: it's a little lighter on like the Sunday afternoon games.

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Speaker 1: It might be the final doubleheader of all time, and

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Speaker 1: they got two of the best games of the week.

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Speaker 1: But we're not starting there.

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Speaker 2: No, we're not starting there.

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Speaker 5: We're starting with a great game in the AFC, Yes,

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Speaker 5: with the Indianapolis Colts at the Los Angeles Chargers, who

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Speaker 5: are favored by one and a half points the over

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Speaker 5: runners forty eight.

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Speaker 2: And a half.

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Speaker 5: Iron Eagle JJ Watt Evan Washburn on the call as Greg.

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Speaker 5: The Chargers got a little bit of their mojo back,

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Speaker 5: do they keep it going against one of the best

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Speaker 5: teams in football right now?

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Speaker 1: That win that the Chargers had was so necessary and

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Speaker 1: yet like didn't make me feel any differently or better

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Speaker 1: about where they're at right now. Like their center Bradley

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Speaker 1: Boseman is a problem. He's starting to get targeted right now.

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Speaker 1: any center of the last six seasons. So I find

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Speaker 1: this matchup really interesting because I think the weaker sides

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Speaker 1: of the ball will face off against each other. So

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Speaker 1: I think the Chargers offense right now is the weaker side.

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Speaker 1: The Colts defense is frisky, but it's the weaker side there,

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Speaker 1: and then the stronger units will also face off against

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Speaker 4: So when the.

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Speaker 1: Chargers have the ball, I am curious of like what bespoke,

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Speaker 1: you know, defensive game plan lou and Arumo comes up

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Speaker 1: with to attack this Chargers team. Right now, we're assuming

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Speaker 1: as we tape that this will not be the game.

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Speaker 4: Joe alt is back.

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Speaker 6: Is just like the Ultimate Revenge Tour though loop for

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Speaker 6: Lou Anaarumo. Yeah, it wasn't me. I was not the problem. No,

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Speaker 6: look to Forrest Buckner, probably swing back a little bit

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Speaker 6: over the nose tackle, He'll probably play a little one,

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Speaker 6: little three. I just I'm with you that Chargers win

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Speaker 6: just because Miami's a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Didn't move the knee.

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Speaker 3: Me.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how they're favored right here, because Colts

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Speaker 6: are playing good football, and you know, we talk about

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Speaker 6: it's pretty damn it's pretty damn good and it's getting better.

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Speaker 6: I just don't know if the Colts are I'm sorry,

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Speaker 6: the Chargers, as well as they can play on defense,

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Speaker 2: With Daniel Jones in this running game.

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Speaker 3: It's the top offense in the NFL right now, certainly

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Speaker 3: They are number one and EPA per play number one

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Speaker 3: since you know, the weeks one and two and three

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Speaker 3: of the season. They're so balanced the Colts are. They

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Speaker 6: Bag, his bag in large part too. Their offensive line

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Speaker 6: is killing. Yeah, their offensive lines playing really well. You

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Speaker 6: talk about playing that twelve personnel Tyler Warren anybody, right,

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Speaker 3: Can't even count as twelve personnel. It's like one hundred

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They stopped even playing like a fourth receiver last week.

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Speaker 1: And they can change up what they want to do

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Speaker 5: And how they want to attack teams, especially deep where

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Speaker 5: coming end of the season. My entire brain on the

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Speaker 5: Daniel Jones situation was based solely on one stet eight

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Speaker 5: completions of twenty or more are yards during.

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Speaker 2: His entire time, Yeah, entire time in New York. Drafted

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Speaker 2: in twenty nine.

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Speaker 5: He's crazy crazy, He's got five already by freeze.

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Speaker 2: All of them are, all of them to your guy, No,

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Speaker 5: Of them are, but still like he's he's gonna eclipse

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Speaker 5: his entire deep passing numbers here before we even get

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Speaker 5: we talked about coach lou they're not necessarily in the

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Speaker 2: So like when when the wins are there, they they

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Speaker 2: win everywhere.

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Speaker 1: And the Chargers traded for a Dafe away because they

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Speaker 1: don't have much of a pass rush right now, and

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Speaker 1: he helped out last week in terms of their pass rush.

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Speaker 1: But with Jones, he had two plays last week which

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Speaker 1: again if you're watching like you can see these throws

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Speaker 1: There was one where he just stands in there early

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Speaker 1: And that's Daniel Jones, like standing in there against pressure.

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Speaker 1: they have eight in the box. But that's only set

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if the Chargers defense has enough

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I expect them to kind of keep

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Speaker 3: has evolved enough with Oway's arrival and sort of getting

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Speaker 3: Then setting up the run. The Chargers love to play

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Speaker 3: I guess Jonathan Taylor, this is a bad match up

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Speaker 2: That's the game. There's gonna run the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they can and they should.

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Speaker 1: It's a team in terms of the Colts that is,

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Speaker 1: ask the offensive line to sort those things out and

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Speaker 1: justin Herbert to sort it all out. Ultimately, you look

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Speaker 1: each one. Of them, and that has Jim Harbaugh's quote

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Speaker 7: Mission Impossible movie The Final the Final Reckoning, I think

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Speaker 7: it's called. I was watching that on the caught a

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Speaker 7: like Ethan Hunt, justin Herbert, I mean, there are people

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Speaker 7: don't realize all the you know, the things that they do.

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Speaker 7: You know, Mission Impossible kind of says it all. Then

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Speaker 7: he just he's like Ethan Hunt.

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Speaker 1: I love that Jim Harbaugh isn't watching game film on

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Speaker 1: the way home, He's watching Mission Impossible.

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Speaker 4: Like that's my kind of cove.

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Speaker 6: I've actually had like conversations with him about this at

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Speaker 6: the league meetings. Steve, you got to watch this crazy

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Speaker 6: like Mission Impossible type show. I've watched it streaming driving

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Speaker 2: It was like, it was horrible.

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Speaker 6: I'll never tell him that unless he's listening here, but

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Speaker 3: I could see him and Tom Cruise getting along.

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Speaker 1: I can see him just I don't know, like I

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Speaker 4: But uh, I guess okay, he's a Jack Richard, you know.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye on the injury report for this game.

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Speaker 1: Charvarius Ward, you know, had that concussion last week. And

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Speaker 1: so they're getting it done, winning games with Makai Blackman,

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Speaker 1: It's like the Colts are getting it done with guys

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Speaker 1: Brett Rippen was signed to be their backup quarterback because

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. I say unfortunately, I'm saying it's unfortunate because

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson had the most unfortunate injury of the year.

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Speaker 4: Breaking You used to remember.

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Speaker 6: When he started that game against the Packers for the Rams,

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Speaker 6: and that's that's the change.

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Speaker 3: Fortunate, it changed everything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, rough, make sure that those those exercise bands are

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Speaker 5: fully stable. Everybody nothing happy, especially on a rough one

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Speaker 5: as Richardson's fractured orbital from a resistance band in its attachment.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to a team that could win the New

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Speaker 5: Jersey State championship over the course of two weeks. The

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Speaker 5: Denver Broncos playing host to the Giants. They are favored

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Speaker 5: by seven. The over under is forty and a half.

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Speaker 5: The best to ever do it. Kevin Harland, Trent Green,

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Speaker 5: Melanie Collins on the call, Steve As we get a

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Speaker 5: chance to see Jackson Dart go up against the defense

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Speaker 5: that we probably don't want Jackson Dark to play. No

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Speaker 5: but a seven point favorite. I mean Denver's offenses has

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Speaker 6: I mean you're you're waiting as he flashes, but they

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Speaker 6: I mean, they can cause some issues. The way they

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Speaker 6: This is the second year in to row he's done this. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well. I think you're going to see another game where

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Speaker 3: we're just they're still waiting to hear what the just

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Speaker 1: He I worry that he will be going into that

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Speaker 4: Making those plays.

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Speaker 4: That said, I thought he made really good decisions.

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Speaker 5: And I think the quick change of into subout Quinon

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Speaker 5: Having to to kind of make these these constant adjustments

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you hear us?

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Speaker 2: We need we need Gregg the tweet here too.

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Speaker 1: The crazy thing is we were patting him on the

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Speaker 4: In one poorly worded tweet, so.

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Speaker 5: Like once once you're able to get that pressure, because

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Speaker 2: And like short and said, yeah, power up the middle.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you this. Let's say this that skataboo. I mean,

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Speaker 6: anyone who plays you never show your numbers. You never

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Speaker 2: Man. He takes shots like he delivers shots.

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Speaker 3: He likes it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I talked about in about week thirteen. He takes

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Speaker 3: I think that one thing that is promising that I

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought it says I was the old one,

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Speaker 1: But no, I got Steve here with me.

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Speaker 2: You're not.

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Speaker 4: Usually I am, Usually I am.

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Speaker 3: But but he he was getting a lot of information,

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Speaker 1: And he's been pretty good in the quick game too,

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Speaker 5: Your on the Giants defense, though, Greg there was still

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Speaker 2: They're making the same mistakes that they've made.

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Speaker 5: It's just Hurts and the Eagles offense a little wiggily

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Speaker 5: that one, But a fun game. Nonetheless, looking forward to

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Speaker 5: the Giants at the Denver Broncos, but not as much fun.

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Speaker 2: It's our next match. It's gonna be a ten.

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Speaker 4: The Jordan Games.

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Speaker 2: We're going back to London.

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Speaker 5: The Los Angeles Rams, off of a narrow somehow win

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Speaker 2: Where we care about people and each other. Rich Eisen,

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Speaker 2: Kurt Water, and Sarah Wallas to see the Jacks trying

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Speaker 2: to bounce backward. I love Barley Morning Football on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Ryse Shine and watch. Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 3: I'm so ready.

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Speaker 1: It's the McVeigh bol What did they say to Patrick

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Speaker 3: It's the McVeigh tree Bowl. It's the sneed Tree Bowl? Right,

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Speaker 3: It's the what the hell cast might happen between either

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Speaker 3: The big story lines out of each side this week

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Speaker 3: But I don't know that it would be smart necessarily

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Speaker 3: So that's those that those star players on either side

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's huge. And they're also trying to integrate Greg

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Speaker 4: So I think the.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and he's a guy who's you know,

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Speaker 2: So what Sean gonna do.

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Speaker 6: He's going to try to hit some stuff in that game, backer,

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Speaker 6: So it's interesting the Jaguars are are confounding team to

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Speaker 6: And I think this is a game if that the

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Speaker 2: Of a game. Patrick has already hyped it up to

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Speaker 1: Be, and I Patrick's not the only one everyone's fired

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is one where I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: It's two defenses where that is where you think you

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Speaker 1: have to be with like what opponents they face this year,

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Speaker 1: because their offensive line numbers in some of these games

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Speaker 1: has been fantastic, but it was against some of the

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Speaker 1: worst pass rushing teams in the league, and then last

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Speaker 1: week you show up against a real deal pass rush

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Speaker 1: and it goes horribly. And they also were without Robert Hainsey,

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Speaker 1: which ball Knower's like Ali Connelly have been saying maybe

446
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Speaker 1: one of the most underrated best centers in the league

447
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Speaker 1: and really has changed their offense. We don't know about

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Speaker 1: his status for this week, so they were without him.

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Speaker 1: And the Rams meanwhile are second in the NFL in

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Speaker 1: terms of QB knockdown percentage like either a sack or

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Speaker 1: a QB hit and they barely blitz. So that is

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Speaker 1: a great four man rush and a big test for

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, But they are.

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Speaker 3: The Jaguars are really thanking the Baltimore Ravens for that

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Speaker 3: last quarter when Tyler Huntley stup. Huntley was in the

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Speaker 3: game ye and reminded everybody in the building and everybody

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Speaker 3: watching advanced scouting from Jacksonville that the Rams pass rush,

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Speaker 3: for as fearsome and talented as they are, still have

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Speaker 3: so many issues covering running quarterbacks quarter when quarterbacks go

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Speaker 3: on the move. Steve brought it up earlier. I think

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Speaker 3: that if they do that type of plan against Trevor

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Speaker 3: Lawrence specifically, not only do you mitigate some of that

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Speaker 3: pressure against the offensive line that you know they're going

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Speaker 3: to bring, but also you if you can create out

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Speaker 3: of structure at all against this front, because they are

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Speaker 3: having trouble containing running quarterback. The Rams secondary I do

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Speaker 3: not trust at all. The safeties are good, but I

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Speaker 3: do not trust. I do not trust any of the corners,

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Speaker 3: the perimeter guys. This is this is I think a

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Speaker 3: big crucial plot point of this game.

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Speaker 5: And an opportunity for you know, Trevor Lawrence and Travis

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Speaker 5: Hunter as well as Brian Thomas Junior to make those

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Speaker 5: sorts of players that we didn't see. We saw BTJ

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Speaker 5: make a play, but Travis was lined up a foot

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Speaker 5: of side.

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Speaker 4: Probably Thomas's best game of the year. It made me

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Speaker 4: feel good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit better.

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Speaker 5: But we can get BTJ to, you know, make some

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Speaker 5: plays on the ball a little bit higher, not let

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Speaker 5: the ball get into his body a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: And over on defense, I'm just concerned with as much

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Speaker 5: zone as they play, like one of the most zone

484
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Speaker 5: dominant defenses in the league, without Devin Lloyd being a

485
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Speaker 5: midle of it against Matthew Stafford. Zone up, Yeah, sut

486
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Speaker 5: it out all season, dangerous, dangerous matchup.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Can I kind of raise a hand for somebody who's

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Speaker 6: just falling right now? Is Nate Lanman.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I just gonna say, when I see a dude.

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Speaker 6: Get seventeen tackles, that's usually when your team is getting

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Speaker 6: the break speed off of it and one dude's making

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Speaker 6: all the play seventeen tackles.

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Speaker 4: And force another and a fourth down stop as one

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Speaker 4: of those.

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Speaker 3: Like man, you know, when you're Trevor Lawrence, And yes,

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Speaker 3: I fully expect them to come in with the game plan.

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Speaker 3: If you're running the football, be careful running it in

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Speaker 3: anywhere in Nate Landman's direction, because mister fumble, Trevor Lawrence

500
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Speaker 3: is gonna have a hard time holding onto that football

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Speaker 3: against the punch out of Nate Landman. Enter Landman.

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Speaker 1: I do like that you brought up Lawrence's playmaking because

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Speaker 1: I've been pretty critical of Lawrence this year and even

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Speaker 1: how he played last week. But the playmaking is a

505
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Speaker 1: big reason why they were able to stay in that game,

506
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Speaker 1: and he had a bad luck and he has been

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Speaker 1: doing better with that. I am curious in this game

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Speaker 1: too if they can get you know, if there's no Puka, like,

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Speaker 1: can we get DeVante unlocked a little bit?

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Speaker 4: To my eye, he looks good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but some drops this year for sure, it's been

512
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Speaker 1: quite inefficient throwing to him, Like just a lot of incompletions.

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Speaker 1: If you just look at the catch percentage, they're quite

514
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Speaker 1: bad in the red zone and a lot of those

515
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Speaker 1: throws have been to DeVante Adams in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: He was supposed to help there. His contested catch percentage

517
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Speaker 1: is low. Like it it just hasn't all been clicking

518
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Speaker 1: yet for him. And this will be a big spotlight

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Speaker 1: game on NFL Network.

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Speaker 4: Wish I was there. Wembley Stadium.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars'll play at Wembley Stadium every year. The other

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Speaker 1: games are at Hottenham Hotspurs Stadium. And yes, this is

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Speaker 1: the last London game of the year. We're just getting

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Speaker 1: going on the previous show. Let's take a quick break

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Speaker 1: and we'll come back and we'll talk about one of the.

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Speaker 4: Best rivalries in football.

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Speaker 1: Before we took a little break, I teased this upcoming

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Speaker 1: game between the Chiefs and the Raiders, saying one of

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Speaker 1: the best rivalries in the league. And maybe the outsiders

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Speaker 1: will say it's one side of the Chiefs are heavily favored,

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Speaker 1: but the fans hat each other, and rivalries are about

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Speaker 1: the fans. I mean, I really do think that's where

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Speaker 1: you get the college football type atmosphere. And I will say,

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Speaker 1: maybe the rest of the league doesn't care too much

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Speaker 1: about Antonio Prierce like losing his job in terms of

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Speaker 1: their wins and losses. I think the Chiefs are one

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Speaker 1: team that's happy Antonio Peers, Yeah, lost that job because

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Speaker 1: Antonio Piers had a pretty good beat on the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: offense over the last couple of years, and the Raiders

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Speaker 1: made those games close.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one something too.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I think we don't get a couple of

543
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Speaker 5: chief Super Bowls if the Raiders didn't win and drive

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Speaker 5: that bus around. He take a victory lap, and Andy

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Speaker 5: Reid said afterwards, they won that game, so they can

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Speaker 5: do anything they want to do.

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Speaker 2: But then he added, that's not our style on Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: John Cruden era go to three Super Bowls after that,

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Speaker 5: and now they play host to those Las Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 5: They are an eleven and a half point favorite. The

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Speaker 5: over under is forty five and a half CBS one.

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Speaker 5: It's Jim, Tony and Tracy on the call as Greg.

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Speaker 5: The Chiefs are gonna get Rashi Rice back? Are they

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Speaker 5: a fully operational battle station?

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Speaker 4: They are?

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Speaker 1: They are ready are one of, if not the best

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Speaker 1: offense in the league before getting Rice back. It's like

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Speaker 1: it's crept up on us a little bit. But they're

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Speaker 1: second in DVOA. Like this is the best three game

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Speaker 1: stretch I mentioned in terms of points scored that they've

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Speaker 1: had since two It's a really good offensive line and yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you look at those strength, the schedule numbers. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's about when you play him. This feels like the

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Speaker 1: worst time to play the Chiefs getting Rice back. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: you know the Raiders are going to have just their

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Speaker 1: static defense with all the guys play all the snaps.

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Speaker 1: They're one of the only teams they just play two

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks and that's it. And Q Blue Kelly and Eric Stokes,

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Speaker 1: they will be out there for every single snap, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Have a difficult time in this one.

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Speaker 6: I think Jordan and I are quietly chuckling when you

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Speaker 6: said the Chiefs offensive line with all the tweets wee

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Speaker 6: exchange earlier this year, like oooh left tackle, right guard, man,

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Speaker 6: that's an issue, but the unbalanced but they've looked so

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Speaker 6: good and that's without their left tackle playing last week.

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Speaker 4: Or probably this week. I'm glad glad you mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's everything's okay. I don't really know a lot.

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Speaker 6: Real peculiar about going on, but they they they got it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it was Mahomes going and the guys,

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Speaker 6: it's over flipped the switch. Let's go because Kelsey's playing.

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Speaker 6: Get both tight end involved in the passing game. Opening

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Speaker 6: up everything from intermediate to the deep passing game, and

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Speaker 6: all of a sudden, their run game looks legit, like

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Speaker 6: where's the checko?

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Speaker 2: Ben?

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Speaker 6: Like, now he's showing it up Kareem Hunt finishing off

588
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Speaker 6: games the way they're playing.

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Speaker 2: So they just had it.

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Speaker 6: You could tell it was like, Okay, it's time to

591
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 6: get it going, same thing they did last year, and

592
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 6: they are rolling right now. And then the Raiders, Man,

593
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Speaker 6: I you know you're away from me to your away.

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Speaker 6: Yeah it's your favorite, it is, but it's true.

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Speaker 3: I think with the Chiefs offense, the best way I

596
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Speaker 3: could probably describe them is looming in a good way

597
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 3: for them, in an ominous way I think for everybody else,

598
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Speaker 3: because you can see some of the little cogs and

599
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: wheels and Andy Reid's brain and Patrick Mahomes's brain starting

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Speaker 3: to turn a little bit more with some of the

601
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Speaker 3: things that they're setting up more under center runs last week,

602
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Speaker 3: for example, Okay, you're setting things up to have that

603
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Speaker 3: stability to start moving Patrick Mahomes's spot in a way

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Speaker 3: that's natural, not him running for his life in a

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Speaker 3: way that's starting to unlock some of the misdirection and

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Speaker 3: some of the things that we know Andrew really wants

607
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Speaker 3: to do vertically and horizontally. With these speed receivers, You're

608
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Speaker 3: starting to see the offensive line dig in and sink

609
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Speaker 3: in together, even with the leage's highest paid backup left

610
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Speaker 3: tackle or swing tackle played pretty well left to your point, Greg,

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Speaker 3: and so, I feel like this is like the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: starting to you know, when someone I mean, I've never

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Speaker 3: been punched, but when somebody is about to is winding up,

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Speaker 3: they're about to haul back and hitch you. That's what

615
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs are doing right now. They're they're locked and

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Speaker 3: loaded here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got fresh off of a team getting hit.

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Speaker 2: The Lions.

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Speaker 3: Did not actually mean.

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Speaker 5: Man who sees, And some defenders around the league have

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Speaker 5: reached out and said, like, Branch did nothing wrong. Apparently

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Speaker 5: there's like some sneaky heat with Juju and a lot

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Speaker 5: of defenders.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I feel like Juju is very much like in

625
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Speaker 4: the CJ.

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Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson mode, just like someone that you know just

627
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Speaker 1: pokes the other team. And there was a clip of

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Speaker 1: him with a totally dirty blind side block on Brian

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Speaker 1: Branch with three minutes left in that game, so that

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Speaker 1: that provided some context to that post. Right, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying I'm not defending, but it gives context.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I I accidentally sidetracked into the conversations.

633
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Speaker 3: I know who Patrick would like to hit.

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Speaker 2: No.

635
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Speaker 3: One, Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 5: Well look, if I'm in the Patrick violence draft, kicked,

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Speaker 5: chip Kelly is way.

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Speaker 2: Down the list.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know what, You're right?

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Speaker 1: How about among NFL figures though you know he'd be

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Speaker 1: high up there.

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Speaker 2: Still still you know, if we're doing wish casting, you know, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not a I mean, what's he doing to Geno.

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Speaker 5: It's like it's a lot of short passes where it's

645
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Speaker 5: like we're hiding g know at this point, and maybe

646
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 5: hiding the rest of the offense, which is.

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Speaker 2: Probably like a good idea.

648
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Speaker 5: Ashton Genty able to have a thirty two percent mistackle rate,

649
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Speaker 5: but that not necessarily translating to that many yards, especially

650
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Speaker 5: like if you think about a guy like Bijan who

651
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Speaker 5: we saw in space creating breaking tackles like Ashton Genty

652
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Speaker 5: breaking tackles to a similar extent, but having to do

653
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Speaker 5: so much work behind the line of scrimmage where it's

654
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Speaker 5: it's just not necessarily happening, and so yeah, like not

655
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Speaker 5: to put it all on chip, but at some point

656
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Speaker 5: you got to do something different if you want different results.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that and the offensive line and no brock Bauers,

658
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Speaker 3: all in confluence.

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Speaker 1: Bower is not expected to play in this game at

660
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Speaker 1: this point, and all.

661
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Speaker 3: In confluence with each other, and the inability to coach

662
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: around it. And I think all of that at once

663
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: is true.

664
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Speaker 4: So we alluded to it before.

665
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: But just to clarify, Josh Simmons, their first round left tackle,

666
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: is away from the team with a personal issue.

667
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: He was in California.

668
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: They asked Patrick Mahomes about it and he said he

669
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: was pray for Josh Simmons. And that's just where we're

670
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: at with that situation. Otherwise, it's a very healthy team.

671
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: The Kansas City is one of the most in the

672
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: entire NFL, and I think replacing those Juju snaps with

673
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: Rashid Rice snaps is going to add even more speed

674
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: to a speedy offense.

675
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: They may be old, but they're healthy, but they're healthy.

676
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: And the defense looked like a Chief defense.

677
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 6: Chris Jones balled out, Car laugh Is balled out, you know,

678
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 6: Nick Bolton balled out Jue Trank.

679
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 2: Will we say it every year like charges.

680
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 6: Actually let us go go like he shows up like

681
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 6: that defense is playing Chiefs defense down too.

682
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 5: All right, congratulations to the resurgent Kansas City Chiefs who

683
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: have been doubted and disrespected enough and I guess they're

684
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 5: going to go back to the action. So long on

685
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 5: the heels of all of our collective disrespect. Speaking up,

686
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 5: the Miami Dolphins are on the road at the Cleveland Browns,

687
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 5: where we'll get to see Kyllan Gabriel going once again.

688
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 5: Two and a half point favorites are the Browns at home,

689
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 5: Spiroddis out of Marchalletta, and Aditi Kinkabala there in what

690
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 5: has been a tumultuous week, a whole bunch of tumultuous

691
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 5: weeks in Miami.

692
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: Steeve, who do you side with them?

693
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 6: And and Tuas facing the guy who broke all his

694
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 6: high school records over on the island of Owahu.

695
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool, just before we even get into that's

696
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Two left handed quarterbacks from Hawaii, one Hawaiian,

697
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: one of Samonan descent, one who is like kind of

698
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: like a childhood hero, a guy he looked up to.

699
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: To the other, it's pretty cool.

700
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean This is going to be in the

701
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 6: two teams of chaos right now, the Browns trying to

702
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 6: figure it out. Miles Garrett saying, must be nice to

703
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 6: be able to rush the passer with the down lead.

704
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 6: After last week's game and Tua basically airing out some

705
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 6: home business when he should have kept that to himself.

706
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 6: I'm sure he's endeared himself to some Thanksgiving dinner invitation

707
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 6: by his team. Look, this is this is one right

708
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 6: here where I think Cleveland's if they're going to win

709
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 6: a ball game.

710
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: Sorry, this is good.

711
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 6: This has got to be Their defense has got to

712
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 6: show up against an offense. I can't figure anything out.

713
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 6: Dylan Gabriel, you can show up. You can you can

714
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 6: beat two again. You already be got his high school records.

715
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 6: You can get him again. Because this Dolphins defense, the teeth,

716
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 6: there's just there's just there's nothing there. You're seeing Jalen Phillips,

717
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 6: a good player, just getting you know, unable to bring

718
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 6: quarterbacks down.

719
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: It's it's it is.

720
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Speaker 6: And after what happened last week, I mean, you talk

721
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 6: about something that can blow a locker room up, this

722
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 6: is that is absolutely the powder keg with Tua did

723
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 6: after that game where it's every it's gonna be every

724
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 6: man for himself pretty soon.

725
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: And I'll take Patrick's line. The thing that matters most

726
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: and it's compounding the issues that that are clearly surfacing

727
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: week after week after week in that building, and the

728
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: frustrations with each other, and the bad looks by Tua

729
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: and bad looks all around for this entire team. The

730
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: worst of all is that they can't stop anything. And

731
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: just when they're starting to get their offense itself back together,

732
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: starting to look okay in the passing game at least

733
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: even without Tyreek Hill, Darren Waller's really come around. Miami

734
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: is allowing opposing offenses to score sixty percent of the time.

735
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 4: That is huge.

736
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: Thing that is that is a record since two thousand.

737
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: Like that is that is the most important thing.

738
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: No, it's not their cybersecurity attendance reports.

739
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: Tua did apologize, you know, he said, I think he

740
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: got some internal heat too, Like he apologized on Wednesday,

741
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: and they all tried to move past. He said he's

742
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: going to keep things in house from now on over

743
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: but I agree with you, it is ultimately the house.

744
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: So they they did make some changes last week. I

745
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: noticed Kenneth Grant playing a lot less their first round pick.

746
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: They put Minka Fitzpatrick in the slot, so that helped out.

747
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: I believe in terms of their secondary they have you know,

748
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: three safeties on the field essentially at the time, but

749
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: they've just had such surprising no shows. Chop Robinson has

750
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: six pressures this year. Oh, I'm shocked by that. He

751
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: looked so good last year not and he's not on

752
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: the field that that much, but six pressure is crazy.

753
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: Chub hasn't been hasn't been good. And their second round pick,

754
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, Jonasavanea on the offensive line, like that might

755
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: be the worst guard combination him and Cole Strange in

756
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: the league. So they're trying to overcome a lot and

757
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: this is a very tough defense to try to overcome

758
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: it against. But on the flip side, like the Browns

759
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: offense is a sinkhole too, so it's it's weakness on notair.

760
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: This week could be a quinch on Duck.

761
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah you could be.

762
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, you playing fantasy, you might want to have him

763
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 6: starting for you this week.

764
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: I noticed PFF has, you know, they they rank receivers,

765
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: which it's not like the perfect position, but I just

766
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: happened to notice a lot of the guys who had

767
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: twenty targets out of sixty eight wide receivers ranked sixty

768
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: seventh and sixty eighth, where Isaiah Bond and Jerry Judy

769
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: and like. Out of eighty seven receivers in ESPN's receiver score,

770
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy was eighty seventh. I mean, he is killing

771
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: them with drops and penalties and not being as open.

772
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: And Gabriel has n't been perfect, but they had five

773
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: drops on him last week.

774
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: Killed one including one where I really saw. I mean,

775
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: I've been kind of high on Dylan Gabriel anyway, since

776
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: hearing all about him when he was still a prospect

777
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: and what scouts were thinking of him and all that stuff.

778
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: But there was a throw the Dylan Gabriel and I

779
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: think that they connect done this this week, Dylan Gabriel

780
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: getting the ball to Harold fan and I think that's

781
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: a huge part of what in the end zone game plans. You. No,

782
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: it is down the left sideline and he was going

783
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 3: to go all I mean, it was going to be

784
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: for sure a house call, and Harold Fannon dropped it

785
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: and it was a beautiful could not have hit him

786
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: anymore and let him with the throw. Could not have

787
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: been a more gorgeous timing throw, And it was like,

788
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 3: that's the that's the future of what this game is

789
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: going to look like and what the next few games

790
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: are going to look like for the Browns. If they

791
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: can connect on those, you're scar you're gonna start to

792
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: see some positivity kind of leaking out of that Brown's offense.

793
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: And certainly that building the.

794
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: Vibes for the loser of this game will be.

795
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: I got to horrendous vibes are going to be bad

796
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: no matter what.

797
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: Now, the winner, the win, it'll it'll feel better. Dolphins,

798
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: they can't lose this game. But I would say the same.

799
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: And yet, and yet they're underdogs to the Browns.

800
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: Sixty. Speaking of sixty, that's most of Greg's first name.

801
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 5: Dolphins run to the left sixty one percent of the time.

802
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 5: Huh they're one handed on offensive on hn gets hit

803
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 5: behind the line of scrimmage when they run right fifty

804
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 5: six percent of the time.

805
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, only.

806
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: Twenty nine percent winning the other way.

807
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 5: Uh so, yeah, that that's the direction Miles that the

808
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: Fens will be running my house.

809
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: He playing on the right side this week?

810
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully you know, no meeting attendance reports will be

811
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 5: shared because apparently that's the worst thing to ever happened.

812
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: Sixty percent.

813
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 5: It's a lot to our next matchup the resurgent Carolina.

814
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: Here, we're going on the road. We'll see a Vizio

815
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: ever squad, which is incredible.

816
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 5: It's Charlotte can be good on the road at the

817
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 5: Jets in New Jersey as they try to bounce back

818
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 5: from a nightmare performance in London, Jordan. The over unders

819
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 5: forty two and a half. Chris Meyers, Marks Laith and

820
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 5: Sarah Kustock on the call. Do fields in the gang

821
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 5: bounce back?

822
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm saying this right now. This feels

823
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: like a trap game for the Carolina papers.

824
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: Wow.

825
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: Honestly, behind an emerged running game, they are third in

826
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: offensive rushing success and excuse me, third and offensive rushing

827
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: success rate and have improved to number fourteen overall for

828
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: the season in EPA per play on offense. They are ascending.

829
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: They did, and people were quick to point this out

830
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: to me. I am cumulative here. People were quick to

831
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: point out they played the Dolphins and the Cowboys defenses. Okay, fine,

832
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: but for the entirety of the year This is a

833
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 3: dramatic upswing and improvement week over week by this team

834
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: that's starting to figure it out, that's getting an identity

835
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: behind Rico Dawdle. This is pretty cool. They're getting some

836
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: guys back, but caid Mays. They're getting Austin Corbi back,

837
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 3: but cad Mays might keep the job. He looks great

838
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 3: at center.

839
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look schedule matters they I checked this because

840
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: I was curious, Like, offensively, they faced the second easiest

841
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: schedule in the league and it's for them and they

842
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: needed it right, It's only got to get easier this week.

843
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: But in terms of like the defensive improvement, they just

844
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: shut down one of the best running games in the league.

845
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: So they turned a total weakness in terms of their

846
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: run defense into a string. It's bizarre though, because to

847
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: use a fantasy football term, they're a pass funnel now

848
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: where they're much better stopping the run the Panthers run

849
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: defense than they are, they're still pretty bad stopping the

850
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: pass the Jet.

851
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 4: That's not a good matchup for the Jets.

852
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jets are not a team that can take

853
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: advantage of you through the air, especially without Garrett Wilson,

854
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: and he's not practicing Wednesday. It's uncertain if he'll play,

855
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, this week, but it's not sounding great.

856
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 6: I'm looking at the Panthers, you know, rico' donald's got

857
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 6: like what four hundred.

858
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: Plus fifty five.

859
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, in two games.

860
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 6: They're running the ball well, and it's not like they're

861
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 6: handcuffing Bryce. I mean, I think you do it just

862
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 6: just more than twenty times last game, but he do

863
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 6: it thirty the previous game. He's being fairly efficient. He

864
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 6: hasn't thrown for more than two hundred yards in those games.

865
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 6: That's what the short the quick passing game. But te

866
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 6: Roa McMillan got his first touchdown. He looks right. This

867
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 6: offense is fine. I love the way that some of

868
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 6: the blocking schemes that they're doing. And then Rico donnall,

869
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 6: once you get to the next level, he's doing his thing.

870
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 6: The Jets aren't great defensively, there's no reason to think

871
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 6: the Donald train's gonna stop. And offensively the Jets, you know,

872
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 6: I think it might be time for us to look

873
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 6: at justin field and say, maybe it's not the offensive

874
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 6: coordinators of this game.

875
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: But that the quarterback.

876
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: But that's why I'm saying this, this feels like a

877
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: trapped There is some interesting splits in like how Bryce

878
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: Young and this defense, by the way, has played in

879
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: home games versus away games. The passerrating difference is ninety

880
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: four point eight at home games, seventy six point eight

881
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: in away games. The stats touchdown interception ratio is not

882
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: that different five to two at home five to three away,

883
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: But his completion percentage drops on the road, and his

884
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: EPA per play drops on the road, and so but

885
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: so I'm like, Okay, I've been seeing Bryce Young put

886
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: it together right, and this run game is really stabilizing

887
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: him and some of the decisions that he's making and

888
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 3: that laser on fourth down to Hunter Renfro to just

889
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: basically essentially win this game last week, and the way

890
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: the confidence that he's playing with, Like I see it,

891
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 3: and I'm like, don't play down to your opponent this week.

892
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they were the underdone get trapped until everyone

893
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: started betting it, so at least when it opened, like

894
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: the Jets were considered their favorite.

895
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 4: I don't think they're at the line is four groog No,

896
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 4: I can hear that.

897
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: I get it, but either way, it's sort of viewed

898
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: as a as a toss up. I do think the

899
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Jets defense played so much better in that game in

900
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: London than they had all season long that you could

901
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: at least hope that a turnaround is happening there because

902
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: there were pretty specific changes that they made, like Jarvis

903
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: Brownlee has turned into a dude in the as their

904
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: slot cornerback who they traded for Jermaine Johnson was back

905
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: and that kids that changed a big time upgrade.

906
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: And then who is it they benched? It was their

907
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: safety Tony Adams.

908
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: They just stopped playing him and they played Malachi more

909
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: and so they made some changes and so maybe their

910
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: defense to give some positivity is on the upswing for

911
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 1: the Jets.

912
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 5: Yes, to the extent that you know, Sean Payton was

913
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 5: making rage play calls.

914
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: Just out of sheer frustration.

915
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: So too A Hubbard might be back for this game,

916
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: but there's no vision to make.

917
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 4: There's no promise.

918
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: It sounds like they're going with Rico Daudle as the

919
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: starter because he said there's no promise that they're going

920
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: to start Chebah.

921
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: The Jets defense is watching the pan. There's defense and

922
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: this is the Lord. I've seen what you've done for

923
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: others game.

924
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, hope before a turnaround that I did not think

925
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 5: was possible. But they've done it, and so like previously,

926
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 5: as of three weeks ago, I was old Briest goes

927
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 5: huge in this game, But considering what we've seen in

928
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 5: the past few weeks, I'm not necessarily.

929
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 3: Get a win.

930
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 4: Get the four and three, Carol.

931
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. The Panthers to me are one of

932
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: the top four or five story lines.

933
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: I love it.

934
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 2: Did not see this comment.

935
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: I love them because they've taken so much smoke over

936
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: the last They've earned it. They've earned they've earned it,

937
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: but especially on defense, and man, I just I like

938
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: seeing them play with more confidence. I don't want to

939
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: hear about their schedule. I'm sorry they needed like, yeah,

940
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: I had.

941
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: To explain so much in the NFL, That's okay, It's

942
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: just how it works with the Patriots.

943
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 3: But beat the teams you're supposed to beat, competent teams,

944
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 3: beat the teams are supposed to beat. This team hadn't

945
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: been competent. Now they look competent and then some and

946
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: I love it, and it's near and dear to my heart.

947
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 4: Greg half this speaking.

948
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: Of those New England Patriots. They are a seven point

949
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 5: favorite on the road. As Mike Rabel makes his return

950
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 5: to Nashville, Tennessee to take on the franchise that ruined

951
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 5: well gave him a great opportunity to go coach with

952
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 5: a team that he used to play for. The over

953
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 5: under is forty two and a half. Andrew cattle On,

954
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 5: Charles Davis, Jason mccordy, and AJ Ross on the call.

955
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: Do the Titans get the coach firing bump, Greg?

956
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: I think they will. I think they'll play tough. I

957
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: believe in the mystical power of the fired coach principal.

958
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: Our guy Spice Rack, who's been on the show many times,

959
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, has the numbers, and the numbers support it.

960
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: And in this case, it is a revenge game. Mike

961
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: Rabel certainly did not like how ownership in Tennessee handled

962
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: the end of his tenure, not just allowing John Robinson

963
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: to trade AJ Brown, but then then how they fired

964
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel for Ran Carthon and he didn't even last

965
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: a year there. And you're right, it did end up

966
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: happily for Rabel in a place familiar with. He did

967
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: have to spend a year with the Browns before that,

968
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: so that couldn't have been that much fun.

969
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: And adjacent to Ohio State where Jim Kelly.

970
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: That's he learned a lot had some players there.

971
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: Though.

972
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Mike Rabel talk about his return to Nashville.

973
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 8: This is going to be probably a lot to be

974
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 8: said about this, and I think would file under the

975
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 8: category of you know, is it interesting or important? And

976
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 8: I would probably say this would be very interesting, but

977
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 8: in the end not very important to our preparation or

978
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 8: what we need to continue to try to do to

979
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 8: improve as a team.

980
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: Love that that I'm going to go through just inspired

981
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: by Rabel here some things.

982
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 3: What I called you interesting but not important? How would

983
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: you life?

984
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 2: That would be right pretty much on point.

985
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: I think that could be a segment I feel like

986
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: for our show, just throwing out things, whether it's interesting

987
00:45:54,760 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: or important. Marcus Jones important one sneaky one of the

988
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: best players on the Patriots this year, certainly outstanding as

989
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: a returner, but he is getting done week after week

990
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: at cornerback for a couple of years though, Yeah, but

991
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: this this year it's been next level. Sometimes cornerbacks have

992
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: those years where not just the ball finds them, but

993
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: that they make game changing plays, like week after week

994
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: he has been their best cornerback, much better like than

995
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis is making all that money. For instance, the

996
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: Patriots are dead last in the league in EPA per rush. Yes,

997
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: I would say that's interesting and important.

998
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 3: Yes, and only thirty three percent rushing success rate, which

999
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: is also way at the bottom of the league. And

1000
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 3: they're not blocking it either, less than a yard before

1001
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: contact per rush.

1002
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I put almost nothing on Carbon and Remandre.

1003
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: Important and interesting.

1004
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 1: Yes, the fumbles are on Remandre, but they can't block,

1005
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: which just outlines how well.

1006
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 4: May is played. And I think schedule is massive.

1007
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: I think it's massive, Like schedule really does explain a

1008
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: lot of like what we talk about in the NFL,

1009
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: and sometimes you just have the cake schedule, the personal shot.

1010
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: And the Patriots have had a cake schedule and they're

1011
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: going to continue to have a cake schedule. Like if

1012
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: you look at the bottom ten teams in terms of

1013
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: like EPA per player or whatever in this entire in

1014
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: the entire league, like they're all on the Patriots schedule.

1015
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 4: And that's helped Drake me out.

1016
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: But I the level of that he's playing is higher

1017
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: than I could have even expect.

1018
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 6: We could say this every year though, when it comes

1019
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 6: to there eduling it and things like this, Here's here's

1020
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 6: why they gets you know, interesting and maybe not important.

1021
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 6: Not only when you mentioned John Robinson getting fired with

1022
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 6: Mike Rabell was coaching in Tennessee because the A. J.

1023
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: Brown trade.

1024
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 6: Brian Kellahan just got fired because Mike Rabils taking his

1025
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 6: young quarterback to New Heights. Brian Callahan took him nowhere.

1026
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 6: So I think that factored into part of that decision

1027
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 6: as well, because they were a disaster. Look, I don't

1028
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 6: think Tennessy gets the bump. I just hey, you know,

1029
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 6: winner's good spirits. They got no players. I mean, I'm

1030
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 6: just and and I say say this, take a shot

1031
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 6: at them. But I do not understand the roster construction

1032
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 6: for over the past three years, for how they tried

1033
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 6: to build this team.

1034
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: Now they finally got their quarterback.

1035
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 6: Sievers are all over the place, the offensive line's all

1036
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 6: over the place, the defensive defense has Jeffrey Simmons and

1037
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 6: who else. Like it's one of these things where at

1038
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 6: least with the Patriots now you can see some semblance

1039
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 6: of their roster construction. They're trying to fix an offensive

1040
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 6: line that's not good. They got the quarterback, they got

1041
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 6: him going, They've got some offensive pieces they're trying to

1042
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 6: get going. Tians have no identity, and it's gonna take it.

1043
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 6: It's gonna take them a while to get that identity

1044
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 6: because we don't even know if Raganzi he's leading this

1045
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 6: coaching start, it's gonna be back as GM. He's only

1046
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 6: been with the Chiefs, which is why Matt Neggy's being

1047
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 6: mentioned this potential head coach camp.

1048
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: For that job.

1049
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 6: And I think he's He's definitely would be stunned if

1050
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 6: he doesn't get an interview.

1051
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: But I don't this week. I just don't think they

1052
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: get the bump. I think the Patriots go five and two.

1053
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: They've got the high breaker over them.

1054
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: Are they buyers at the deadline?

1055
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 4: Greg?

1056
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: If they if they have tons of cap space, they

1057
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: want to take advantage of this opportunity going into vision.

1058
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: Maybe they look across the sideline. That's some pieces. You know.

1059
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 5: Personally, I think the Titans could, you know, build for

1060
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 5: the future and ship out Snead and Simmons to Baltimore.

1061
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: You know, no reason whatsoever.

1062
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: Simmons would be an interesting doesn't really make sense on

1063
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots, where their best position I guess is defensive tackle.

1064
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley feels like a guy that should Buffalo and

1065
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: will be traded. I wouldn't necessarily want them on the Patriots.

1066
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: Just seems like an inconsistent player. They got enough like

1067
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: solid receivers, I.

1068
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 4: Think, Greg.

1069
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just saying Keyshon Boody is is worth

1070
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: keeping in the lineup.

1071
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 4: Tefon Diggs is doing his thing.

1072
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: If you're gonna go get someone, go get a J Brown,

1073
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, go go get like a premier player. But

1074
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't need another two slash three. Mike Frabel,

1075
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: by the way, not getting too sentimental about it, it

1076
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: said that a good will off Eighth Avenue in Nashville

1077
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: got a fantastic haul of his Titans memorabilia. He's not

1078
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: a guy who keeps mementos, So my guess is there

1079
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: it's gone by now because he moved quite a while ago.

1080
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: But that's if you're looking for, like a sweaty undershirt

1081
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: with Titans on it, sustaining, probably not.

1082
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 5: Like not all sweaty. The coaches get a lot of merch. Yeah,

1083
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 5: and for him for not pitching it welcome back to

1084
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 5: the to the head coach merch World, Mike McCoy, uh

1085
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: five and eleven in that last Philip Rivers year for

1086
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 5: the San Diego Chargers back in our lives as the

1087
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 5: Titans interim head coach.

1088
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh I was there. I was there for

1089
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: Mike McCoy's final game. Was It was a sad day

1090
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: because Chargers fans, you know, have to say goodbye to

1091
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: the old Jack Murphy to their team. And uh, I

1092
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: will never just forget the smell in that stadium. It

1093
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: just it is never I've never been at a sporting event.

1094
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: And including the Doctor Dre halftime show that just more

1095
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: people were smoking joints the entire game.

1096
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: It was just like a.

1097
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: Big old party. It was as San Diego as it gets.

1098
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: Uh this show was ill. I'm not going to say

1099
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: as san Diego as it gets, but it was. It

1100
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: was relaxed, it was fun a lot like San Diego.

1101
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: We're gonna stop right here. We're going to be back

1102
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: with all the NFC games, So listen up.

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00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford