1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on Home of the Black and 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Dry Bomb 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: del Ali here with Matt Williamson and Matt. It was 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: an eventful weekend around the NFL. Uh. Everybody played their 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: preseason finales. Uh. There were some injuries, there were some 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: other updates or some just crazy stuff going on around 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: the league right now. Quarterbacks named starters. None really that 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: were a super big surprise. But I think the biggest news, 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: at least in the n f C North was the 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: injury to j K. Dobbins. Um. Unfortunate for the young man. 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: You know, you and I were both fans of him 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: in last year's draft. Um, I thought he would gonna 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: he was gonna have a pretty big one season and 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: that is now out the window. What does just due 15 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: to that Raven's offense. I think it hurts it dramatically. Um. 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: You know there's the argument that, hey, running backs don't matter, 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: and you and I have gone down that road a 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: million times, and you know leads back to the nausey 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: Harris draft pick. But he was a guy, like you said, 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: we both liked a lot. You know, there were five 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: high end running backs in that draft. A year ago 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: and he was my favorite. I think he was yours 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: as well. Um, and you know, like all those guys, 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: started his career a little slow with the COVID world 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: and no preseason, but got better and better and better 26 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: and made a lot of yardage on his own. Um, 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: he's got a lot more burst and big play potential 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: that certainly then the other guys on that roster. And 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty clear. And I don't even 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: think Harbaugh hid this. I mean even you know, in 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: the off season, just talking about we're gonna throw the 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: ball to running backs more. You know, it's easier for Lamar. 33 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we have a guy like Dobbins that's good 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: at it. So I think that's a big thing they 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: were counting on of, you know, reshape their offense. It's 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to pull off. Now with Gus Edwards, 37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: who's a good back and there fortunate to have him. 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: They gave him money this offseason and he's a true Raven, 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: tough guy. You know, it's better than people think, but 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: he's just not the big play threat or the receiver. No. 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: I think if you're defending the Ravens, it got a 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: lot easier because you know, if you if you have 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: the read option two Dobbins, you at least have to 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: pay attention. I mean average six yards to carry last year. Yeah, 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: and it's limited the scheme, right, but that's not the 46 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: only reason he's a good player. Whereas if it's if 47 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: it's you know, if you're handing off to one of 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: these other guys, are you going to be quite as fearful. 49 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: You know, you're just gonna go hit Lamar because he's 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: the home run threat. Yeah, that's a good point. I 51 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: think Lamar takes more of a beating now without question. Yeah, 52 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna definitely go, Okay, we'll trust our 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: trust the linebackers to get Gus Edwards on the ground. 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna take your shots at Lamar. I think it's 55 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: a major it's a big deal for the Ravens, and 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: there's you know that it was talking. Maybe they'll side 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley or maybe they'll sign you know, one of 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: these veteran guys. None of these guys do that. You know, 59 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: they're even trading for mark Ingram. That doesn't do it 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: for me. No, none of those guys move the needle. 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if they would do something big like go 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: trade from Melvin Gordon. Okay, you know, but Adrian Peterson, Gurley, Ingram, 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: left Bell, those guys are washed, man. I mean they're 64 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: none of them have looked good for a while. Um. 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: They might put up some numbers, but they're not as 66 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: good as Edwards or bring much in the passing game 67 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: or bring you big playabilities. I mean, I think they 68 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: loved the Dobbins and we're really really high on and 69 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: wanted to give them more and more, and now they 70 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: just can't, you know, I mean everyone, It's one It's 71 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: my least favorite thing about the sport is there's so 72 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: much you count on all offseason and then it's taken 73 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: away from you in a snap. You know, Like, man, 74 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: I got to totally scrap all this work and all 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: these thoughts I had about designing my offense around this 76 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: guy a little more. And the other thing they dealt 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: with it we didn't bring up though, is you know 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: they lost Bateman a while ago too, and I thought 79 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: Bateman was a really good compliment to Marquees Brown. I 80 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: know he's just a rookie, but he's a chain mover, 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: he's a route runner. He's exactly what they needed. So 82 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: two of your five skill position guys you were really 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: counting on aren't available. Yeah, there was another move today 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: as well inside the the a f C. North. Um. 85 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this one, but the 86 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: Giants traded b J. Hill in the conditional seventh round 87 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: draft pick to Cincinnati for Billy Price. That's how that's 88 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: how hard up. Yeah, yeah, that's how hard up the Giants. 89 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: People talk about the Steelers offensive line, it's the worst 90 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: in the league. No, No, the Giants offensive line is 91 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: the worst in the league. There's four or five and 92 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: the Giants are at the bottom of the list. To 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: agree with you here, you know, Chicago's like that too. 94 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: Billy Price is bad. He stay, he's horrendous. Yeah, and 95 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: maybe p J. Hill was another one that you know, 96 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: we're just gonna cut both dudes, and so we'll swap 97 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: our garbage for your garbage. But man, I mean it's 98 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: that's a desperate type of move. I didn't see that. 99 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: But wow, it doesn't change my opinion at all of 100 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: either team. No, not one bit. Um. The Browns didn't 101 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: kind of make it through uh their preseason semi healthy 102 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: like you guys like Greedy Williams went I don't know 103 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: what they were counting on Greedy Williams this year. Um, 104 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: he's been hard to come, but he can't stay he 105 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: can't stay healthy. Um. They did lose some guys that 106 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: they lost one of their inside backers early in camp. Um. 107 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: You know, so again when we look at this, uh, 108 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that the Steelers are in awful shape. 109 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: Does does the Dobbins Does the Dobbins injury change the 110 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: dynamic in the a f C northview a little? It's 111 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: just been overall bad mojo for Baltimore. I mean, guys 112 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: missing with COVID, including Lamar. There's been a lot more 113 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: negative things than positive things happening around that team. I 114 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: certainly think Harbaugh was a guy that can certainly get 115 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: that ship straight and you know, straightened out and right 116 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: the ship. Um, but you know, yeah, I mean they're 117 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: the ones that have taken the bombs the most so far, 118 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: and they're not super adapt to deal with it at 119 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: those two positions, including Bateman. You know, the guys again, 120 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: guys they counted on. I mean, if steel has lost 121 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: the first round pick and they're starting running back, which 122 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: happens to be the same person, I understand that you know, 123 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: would all be thinking the sky's falling right now. Yeah, 124 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Baltimore is a bit vulnerable right 125 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: now because of that. I mean, I don't think that 126 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: they're I didn't trust this good in that much. I mean, 127 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: it's kind of like the Steelers really revamped, and but 128 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: the older version and the edge pass rush I think 129 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: has taken a step back just to begin with. And 130 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: they planned for those things. Yeah, I mean, and this 131 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: is before they've played a snap. I know. You know, 132 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: we talked a couple of show and when I can't 133 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: remember who put it was. It wasn't Graziana who put 134 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: out the thing ranking the off seasons for teams. Oh yeah, 135 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: we didn't agree with it all that much. Was somebody 136 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: from ESPN. Now, yeah, anyway, so that they had the 137 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: Steelers last, uh is having the worst off season of 138 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: any team. To me, this all counts as the off 139 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: season because the season doesn't start until the season starts. 140 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: The season starts in two weeks. That's when the season starts. 141 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: The off season the day the Super Bowl ends until 142 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: the day the regular season starts, right, So I mean, 143 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: I look at this, and I look at what the Ravens, 144 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens off season, and I'm like, it's a pretty 145 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: bad off season. It's pretty bad off season, right, and 146 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: some of it's out of their control, there's no question 147 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: about that. But you know, you're considering your two first 148 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: round picks and you're gonna get anything out of either, 149 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, including a Way who they knew was a project. 150 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: And you're starting tackle that you got one of those 151 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: first round picks for is gone and you're gonna have 152 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: to fill that gap with villan Auava or whomever. And 153 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: you're hoping Zeitler and Stanley and villan Auava and some 154 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: of these older guys are still highly capable, you know, 155 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: either they're coming off injury or up in age and 156 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: you know they were Their offenses has gotten easier and 157 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: easier to play against as there's more tape of it, 158 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, and that should surprise no one. It's like 159 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: a picture going through the league the second time or whatever. 160 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: You know. So everyone now is not afraid to play 161 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: man coverage against them because they don't have man beat 162 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: or type receivers and they just crowded the middle of 163 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: the field and they they're begging Lamar to throw outside 164 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: the numbers, and I don't know that that changes anymore. 165 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: You know, Like the Ravens recognized how teams were playing 166 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: them and tried to make moves this offseason, but I 167 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: don't know that they corrected the problem. Yeah. Well, one 168 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: of the kind of under the radar too is that 169 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Nick Boyle it's probably not going to be ready to 170 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: start the regular season for them. I mean, he's start 171 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: blocking tie it in. Yeah, it's funny he brought him 172 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: up because you wouldn't think he's actually the starter. Mark 173 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: Andrews isn't the starter, right, Nick Boyle is the starter, yep. 174 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: And I know Hayden Hurst isn't a tremendous player, but 175 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: they missed him last year too. I mean they want 176 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: to play a lot of two and three tight end sets, 177 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: and so like when Boyle would be out, they didn't 178 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: have their guys, you know. I mean they they count 179 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: on those peripheral blockers a great deal, the boils, and 180 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: I forget the two d eighty pound fullback that looks 181 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: like a defensive tackle that they use, and that those 182 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: type of guys, you know, but that's instrumental. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 183 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: So now they're a little down. I mean I think 184 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: they're a great organization and there's likely to figure it 185 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: out as anyone. And you know, the Chiefs, Bills, Brown Steelers, 186 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: Titans all have hardships ahead. But it's an early a 187 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: couple of blows that you're gonna look back and say, man, 188 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: and maybe it's not your year. Yeah, um, that and 189 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: then happens. I mean, it didn't happen to them when 190 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: they when they went five games that year, and you 191 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: know that that can happen. Um. I'm looking here at 192 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: the at the Ravens step chart. Odell Beckham still kind 193 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: of nicked up. I'm not not doing anything, um defensively. 194 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: Uh you know they Uh Myles Garrett hasn't you know, 195 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: didn't play a lot. Mack Wilson's kind of nicked up. 196 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison clown, clown, He's hardly played. I don't know, 197 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think the Browns are 198 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: the at least on paper right now, the best team 199 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: in the NFC North. Yeah. But that but that papers 200 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: is very thin and it's written in pencil. Yeah it is. 201 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: It's a second year head coach with a quarterback that's 202 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: up and down and certainly benefits from those around him. 203 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: But he's got a really good cast. Number one receiver 204 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: that we often bring up is hard to rely on. 205 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: And I love their defensive changes, Like I think they're 206 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: gonna live in dime and have a lot of defensive 207 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: backs on the field. But there's probably some learning curve 208 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: there too, with a lot of new bodies and some 209 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: new style of play too. But I like where the 210 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: Browns are at. I mean, don't get me wrong. And 211 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: I'm sure Brown's Nation Radio right now is pretty happy 212 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: about the Dobbins injury and you know, looks at the 213 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: probably patting themselves on the back of where the we're 214 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: the team to beat now in the North and we'll see, Yeah. 215 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Jacob Phillips was going to play 216 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: a lot for them linebacker at least at least he 217 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: and he's already out for the season. I mean, it's 218 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: it's tough. It's it's tough to make it through this 219 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: without being just again, things change quickly in the NFL. 220 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: Um it's not about who wins the off season, it's 221 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: about who stays the most healthy. Uh. Speaking of which, 222 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: and and and how well how well do you adjust 223 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: to what it just happened? And its awesome it's Stefanski 224 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: was last year and he would have got my vote 225 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: for Coach of the Year. You gotta trust Harbor and 226 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: Tomlin to handle the hardships better than him. Oh, without 227 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: a doubt. They've done it before. Yeah, I mean I 228 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: still think back to you know, Stefanski was on the 229 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: staff in Minnesota when Teddy Bridgewater got hurt. And if 230 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: you remember when Teddy Bridgewater got hurt at that practice, 231 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: they canceled the rest of practice. Yeah. I guess it 232 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: was gruesome and he was so well loved and all that, 233 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: But what kind of message is that? What kind of 234 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: messages that send to the rest of the team that day, 235 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know, right? Oh, not 236 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: to move on? Yeah, we're screwed. I mean you I've 237 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: seen this a hundred times. Uh. You know, somebody goes 238 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: down in Steelers practice and is as callous as it seems, 239 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: you kind of they moved the whole huddle and everything 240 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: moves up, and they that guy gets worked on behind 241 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: the line and they just go on with their practice. Yeah. 242 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: I think that is a good message. It's a good 243 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: thing to bring up because the show has to go 244 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: on no matter what, you know, I mean, um, you know, 245 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: and then react by We're gonna give a first round 246 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: pick for Sam Bradford, you know, like, well, you know 247 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: that seems like a desperate moved to the locker room, 248 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what it was. Yeah, Uh did you see? Uh? 249 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: The Colts put three guys on their COVID list today. 250 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: They're a mess. Carson Wentz, Carson Wentz, Ryan Kelly, Zach Pascal. Okay, 251 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: Kelly's to can count on right. Um was just coming 252 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: to which doesn't sound like much, but he's the starting 253 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: left tackle until Fisher comes back, which is gonna be 254 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: a long time from now. And Fisher has COVID and 255 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: a torn a c or torn a. Kelly's and Tebby 256 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: wasn't good to begin with, so they're on their third 257 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: offensive tackle. Is Nelson going to be there early in 258 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: the season? I mean their first five games are horrific, 259 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: and even Ellinger, the rookie quarterback, looked like he had 260 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: the leg up on Easton to start. If Wentz wasn't 261 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: gonna play he got hurt. Now he's t y. Hilton 262 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: has banged up. I mean it's rough for the cold. 263 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't know anyone's had a rougher in the Colts 264 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. No, I don't know either, 265 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I think they were kind of feeling 266 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: a little better about the situation with Wentz, you know, 267 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: coming back and Okay, it looks like he was gonna 268 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna practice, We're gonna be all right, they'll be 269 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: ready to go for the opener. And then he goes 270 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: on the COVID list. Yeah, right right, just yet another 271 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: obstacle for this guy. The whole team has been like that. 272 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: Every step forward, it's two steps back. And maybe we'll 273 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: get a lot of good reports, you know, you you 274 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: beat reporter types will be at practice as these next 275 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: two weeks, and we'll we'll know things like Wentz is 276 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: back out there running with the ones and looks healthy. Okay, great, 277 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: but he still has not had hardly any time with 278 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: his new teammates. Yeah, I mean he's uh, he can't 279 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: return for five days. He's not vaccinated. Yeah, so he 280 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: has to be out for at least five days different ways, 281 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: but anyway, Yeah, that's yeah. Um. In fact, I think 282 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: I saw something. The Colts were one of the least 283 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: vaccinated teams in the league, and this is this is 284 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: what can happen with this if you're not vaccinated, if 285 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: you're vaccinated and you have a close contact, which is 286 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: what this was. He didn't test positive, but they had 287 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: a close contact with somebody who tested positive. You're automatically 288 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: out five days if you're unvaccinated. If you're vaccinated, then 289 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: you have a close contact, they can give you the 290 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: test and you're back the next day. That's a massive difference. 291 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean, right now it is, absolutely but five weeks 292 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: from now, if it's on a Wednesday, that's a massive difference, 293 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, or even a Tuesday. You know, like you're 294 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: not around for that week. I mean, I guess this 295 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: is some personal and political views and all that, but 296 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: if I'm Vegas or betting on team over unders, I 297 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: think I would go look at the vaccination rates and 298 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: if I could figure out which quarterbacks and stars are 299 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: vaccinated versus not, that's a big deal over the course 300 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: of just seventeen games. Yeah, you know, we've already it seemed. 301 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: We know Kirk Cousins isn't vaccinated. We know Lamar Jackson 302 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: isn't isn't vaccinated, Carson Wentz isn't vaccinated, Cam Newton, you know, 303 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: these are these are four quarterbacks like you're the you're 304 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: the leader of your team, like you know. I mean, 305 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: I understand that some people are against it, and I 306 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: haven't enough homework either way, but I just know that 307 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: if I'm trying to win football games in this league 308 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: the way that the rules are set up, I sure 309 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: would be pushing from my quarterback to be vaccinated or 310 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: would find maybe find someone that is, you know, I 311 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: mean like, and there's probably some other ones out there 312 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: that we don't know about, but it's your quarterback. I 313 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: saw something from I'm trying to think of who it was, 314 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: but they were talking about cousins and it was a 315 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: former Vikings player. I can't remember who it was now, 316 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: and he was talking about how that's irresponsible for your 317 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: quarterback not to not to get vaccinated. He's like, I 318 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to get in the huddle with him. Now, 319 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: I think that's a bit extreme, but he's like, you know, 320 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: you get tackled in the NFL and you're at the 321 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: bottom of that pile and he and he said, I've 322 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: been in a situation where you know that the guy 323 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 1: who's on top of me is face mask is right 324 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: in mind and I can. I think the quote was 325 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: I could tell what he had been drinking the night before, 326 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: right right, you know, and spitting blood, you know, right. Yeah, 327 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's probably not hard to get a disease 328 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of a sixty uh, you know minute 329 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: NFL game. Um, I think it's irresponsible to that's more 330 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: of a personal view, especially if you're a quarterback of 331 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: something like that, because you know, and my point with 332 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: it is isn't whether you're into the vaccine or not. 333 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: Everyone has their own own thoughts, but availability in this 334 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: league is hard enough as it is, so if you're 335 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: gonna make it even less likely you're on the field 336 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: with the decision you could make or not because of 337 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: the rules that are the same for everybody. Man. I mean, that's, 338 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: to me, is a little on the selfish side. Yeah. 339 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: I think that's and we're gonna see it. I mean, 340 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen in the league this year. I mean, 341 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: there's no doubt somebody's gonna be without their starting quarterback. Yeah, 342 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: no doubt we'll have a Denver wide receiver at quarterback situation. 343 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: But people, I bet some people miss games and it 344 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: affects the outcome of games. Um. We also saw over 345 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: the weekend that the Shawn Watson trade rumors kick back 346 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: up again. No, I I don't he's not traded. You 347 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: can't trade for the guy right now. I just don't 348 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: see how anybody could do it, especially not when you 349 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: saw the asking price. Three first round picks in two 350 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: second round picks. Get out of here. Yeah, I mean 351 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: that's before any allegations came out. Yeah. Absolutely, if he 352 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: if he's got a clean bill of health and a 353 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: clean back story and everything's perfect, that's the asking price 354 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: for for a guy like the Shawn Watson, twenty five 355 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: year old star quarterback. If you're getting three first round 356 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: draft picks and in two seconds for him right now, 357 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: I would think half of that and then if you 358 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: and if you get that right or very conditional in nature, 359 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, I mean we saw the Wentz trade. It 360 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: could be a two or a one, depending how much 361 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: he plays. But how much would Watson play for the Eagles, Dolphins, 362 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, Broncos, whomever, if you were to trade for 363 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: him right this second. Probably very little. He's probably gonna 364 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: not gonna see the field much. Um. A lot there 365 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: to unpeel, actually, because part of me thought and I 366 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: think I forwarded it to that that when that report 367 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: came out, I'm like, that just doesn't add up. I mean, 368 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: all the reports about to have been quite strong, and 369 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: I've watched a fair amount of his preseason. I think 370 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: he looks much better last year. That offense with chan Gailey, 371 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: who's very very old, was very structured to Fitzpatrick. It wasn't, 372 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: you know, structured to us. So the whole off season 373 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: has been about building around toa with speed guys in 374 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: a different system. And anytime you can upgrade an average 375 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: quarterback to a superstar, you certain listen, don't get me wrong. 376 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: And Watson's way better than two of probably ever will be. 377 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: But with all all that's swirling, Miami is not a 378 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: garbage team. I mean, you didn't make a move like 379 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: that right now. That just doesn't add up to me 380 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: at all. No, I don't think so either. And I 381 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: think I don't know whether it was the agent trying 382 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: to drum something up, whether somebody was trying to drump 383 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: something up that wasn't there. Because the immediate reaction and 384 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: of my like the Dolphins have emerged as the leader, 385 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: and then the immediate reaction of Miami was like, yeah, 386 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: that's not as yeah, yeah, and they basically just addressed 387 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: it laughed it off. But I do think we haven't 388 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: mentioned the Minshew trade, which doesn't seem like much, but 389 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: that's all I want to get to that next. Yeah, 390 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: I think all these are related because I did kind 391 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: of believe that Philly, with three first round picks next year, 392 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: a young quarterback that I don't really have much hope 393 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: for and Hurts, would be a team that maybe they'd 394 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: give you the the asking price right now, even if 395 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: Watts doesn't play it down this year said hum, it's 396 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a long year in Philly anyway. But the 397 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: rumors have it that Watson but pretty much told everybody 398 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: that might no trade clause, I'm not going to Philly, 399 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: and then they go trade for Minshew, which makes me 400 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: think that they are not in the Watson sweepstakes at all. 401 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: You know that they might be in the Spencer Rattlers sweepstakes, 402 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: but I don't think I think they're out on Watson. Well, yeah, 403 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: I think at this point, if you're a team looking 404 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: for a quarterback at this point in the in the process, 405 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: you're just gonna play it out. I think if you're 406 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: the Eagles right now, you're going, Okay, we just saw 407 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: this preseason. We're probably not. This is probably another rebuilding year. 408 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: This is probably a year two, two or year three 409 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: of the rebuild. Wherever they think they're at. He just 410 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: hired a new head coach. Let him pick his pick 411 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: his quarterback. Don't give up three first round picks in 412 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: two seconds for a guy who may not who may 413 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: not play this year. Like that's that's I mean, that's 414 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: your future. I mean, you know this as well as 415 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: I do. I mean, these teams probably have a better 416 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: understanding of how his case will go than you or 417 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: me or anybody listening. You know. There there's just more resources, 418 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: more money. You know, they might deep down and be 419 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: like the Shawn's didn't get off all this, it's all 420 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: gonna go away. But it's not a slam dunk or 421 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: the NFL might not see it that way. And oh, 422 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: by the way, he's super expensive, and what's your fan 423 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: base or you know, you're especially the women in the crowd, 424 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, how they going to treat him? How is 425 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: the new team? Are they going to react to this? 426 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: What the owner have to say about it? You know, 427 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: I mean maybe he's a innocent and his assault of 428 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: the earth, but he's going to have some things to 429 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: deal with when he goes to a new team that 430 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: are difficult. I mean, there's no way around that. Yeah, 431 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: there's I mean, I just don't know. And again, it 432 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily be talking about this on Steelers Nation Radio 433 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: but for the fact that, um, all the Dwayne Haskins 434 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: love and all the good feelings about Dwayne Haskins might 435 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: have gone out the window with the performance Friday night 436 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: in Carolina. Just a little rough on Dwayne probably too. Yeah, um, 437 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, I here was my thinking on that whole situation. 438 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: Matt I saw pretty much what I had been seeing 439 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: over the course of training camp with him. And maybe 440 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: this is an Ohio State quarterback thing. We saw the 441 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: same thing said about justin fields, he won't throw the 442 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: ball unless the guys wide open, college wide open. I 443 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: see that with Haskins, where he you know, he he 444 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: just you know, check down, check down, checked down. Oh, 445 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: that guy's running wide open. I'm gonna throw that one. 446 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: And then he buzzes the ball in there and everybody said, 447 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: well did you see that throw dayne Haskins made. Yeah, 448 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: I saw that one, but I also saw the first 449 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: six where he just checked the ball down to the 450 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: running back where the receiver running the cross or when 451 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: there were four other guys running down the field. You 452 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool, Yeah, Chase claypools on the field with you, 453 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: and you don't throw him a fifty fifty ball. And 454 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: you certainly the arm strength to do it. And I 455 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: mean that should be one of the strengths of your game, 456 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: considering your so so athleticism and big arm. And we 457 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: don't need you to be Alex Smith checkdown guy, you know. 458 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: I mean we don't or Teddy Bridgewater. We need you 459 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: to be the aggressive you know, they drive the ball 460 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: down the field, dude. And there's two things that worry 461 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: me with Haskin. That's the biggest one because for those 462 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: that don't realize it, in one of the kill Ben 463 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: last year for his average depth of target in the 464 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: short passing game Pittsburgh, Washington's was as bad or worse. 465 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: And some of that was Alex Smith, but just as 466 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: much of it was Haskins and makes you all also 467 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: wonder how were they coached all those things? But they 468 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,239 Speaker 1: made quarterback changes that they didn't accept it um and 469 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: then the other. So is he going to be aggressive enough? 470 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: To your point, I think that's the biggest thing that 471 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: worries me. But I also think, and again it's small 472 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: sample size, but if you look at his snaps in 473 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: the preseason in a Steeler uniform, when his supporting cast 474 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: was better than the opposing defense, he played his best, 475 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: which of course everyone does, but when it wasn't. Early 476 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: in the Carolina game, he looked overmatched, you know, like 477 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: late against Philly with their garbage depth, he was great, 478 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: and they this huge running game and everyone, you know, 479 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: all these huge holes. But I think if you really 480 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: look at the context of who he played with and 481 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: who he played against, he didn't elevate those around him 482 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: as much as he just let the better players he 483 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: played with do beat their guys. Yeah, and that again, 484 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: that's and that's fine. I mean he doest them to 485 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: be Brett Farve, Yeah right, I I you know, I 486 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: just looked at that as Okay, he needs he's not 487 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: out of the plans, Like I'm not gonna just toss 488 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: him aside. And there were people saying, well, cut cut 489 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: him and keep Dobs. That's crazy. Haskins is more absolutely 490 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: and you want to around it's been a successful experiment. 491 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: But it's absolutely the fact that he played well enough 492 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: to make your roster is a win. But it doesn't 493 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: change my long term view of the quarterback position to 494 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: where Okay, Haskins is the future quarterback. No, No, I 495 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: think you're still going to be looking. I think what 496 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: he did with this is give himself an opportunity two 497 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: come back again next year and potentially compete. Maybe it's 498 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: a Mason Rudolph, Dwayne Haskins and a rookie competing for 499 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: your starting job, or you know, maybe they they figure out, Okay, well, 500 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, we can let Haskins go and we're gonna 501 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: get trade for David Carr or whatever it may be. 502 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: You know, Derek Carr should say whatever it may be. 503 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: But you know there's yeah, but it can't hurt No. Again, 504 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: they've got him back next year again on the cheap 505 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: if they want that, because he's a restrictive free agent. Um. 506 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: You know, you honestly, what did is this time of 507 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: year or week three of the preseason. Next year, maybe 508 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: somebody gives you a fifth round pick for Rudolph or 509 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Haskins and the other ones you're sure fire back up, 510 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, and you're happy about it. You know, those 511 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: guys are resources, they're not You're not just to give 512 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: him away. Quit give him out? Yeah, I agree, So 513 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: we'll see. Uh. You know, you know, I think what 514 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: happens with that is, instead of perhaps having to offer 515 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: him you know, let's let's say he goes out there 516 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: and plays well and he wins the number two jobs. Well, 517 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: then in the next season, uh, instead of putting it 518 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: restricted tag on him, that's let's say you put a 519 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: second round restriction tag, restricted tag on him. Um, if 520 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: he's real number two, you probably have to put your 521 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: first on the number one restricted tag on and and 522 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: that just changes everything. Um, you know what the what 523 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: the compensation is that all that kind of stuff. I 524 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: think now you can probably get away with that second 525 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: round compensatory or uh offered to him. And if somebody, 526 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: if somebody makes an offer, somebody signs him, great, you 527 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: get a second round I mean a gust and nothing 528 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: in and turned him into a second round pick in 529 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: three m sixty five days. Great. Yeah. If not, then 530 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, if then he's on your roster and he's 531 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: battling for one of those spots. Yeah, right, and so 532 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: still a win win. It's never bad to have a 533 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: great backup too, you know. I mean we talked about 534 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: the value in that a lot, and most teams don't 535 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: or you know, just an asset to move to another 536 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: team along those lines. I don't know how much time 537 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: we have, but I mean part of me thought, because 538 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: the Steelers weren't a position to do it, I would 539 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: have loved to give it up a sixth round pick 540 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: for Minshew, you know. I mean, I'll pay Minshew over 541 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: the two guys Steelers have, but not at the cost 542 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: of cutting one of them, or you know, they weren't 543 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: in the position to add that guy. But and which 544 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: brings me to that conversation too, Like I'm sitting here 545 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: watching the Giants, like, why wouldn't the Giants give you 546 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: a fifth for Minshew? And I could probably come up 547 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: with ten other teams, you know, Atlanta, I mean this, 548 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna give me all tosses a six to get Minshew. 549 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: I'll add him as a long term backup Fitzpatrick type, 550 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, for a fifth rounder. If I'm ten different 551 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: teams in the league. Yeah, I'm kind of surprised, I guess, 552 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, with with First of all, I don't know 553 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: why Jackson will be so hot to get rid of them. 554 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: It brings me to another You get a cheap backup? Yeah, 555 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: I had that show, like, just getna get rid of 556 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: some of their own. We know they're good players, but 557 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: we'll take six round picks. They will never turn into anything. Instead, 558 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's the best way to team build. 559 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's really moving on from Shober to Minshew. 560 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 1: Make you better then you Still in his rookie contract, 561 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: he said, cost nothing. I mean he's gold. He's a 562 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: cheap backup, a ridiculously cheap backup that costs you pennies 563 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: on the dollar. That's still one of the best backups 564 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: in the league. That's the beauty of them to me. 565 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if you use a six round pick and 566 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: he turns into Garden Minshew, you're doing cart wheels and 567 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: you already get that. I just don't understand that logic. 568 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: And how about this one, Dale Like it took urban 569 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: Meyer until a couple of days ago to anoint Trevor 570 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: Lawrence as his starter. And we all knew Trevor Lawrence 571 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: is going to be the starter, But how many times 572 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: and reps, especially in practice. Did they give to Minshew 573 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: that they could have given the law right? You know, 574 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: like there's only so many hours in the day and 575 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: you're wasting him on the guy you're in a trade 576 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: for six round pick. Yeah again, I'll say it again. 577 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't think Urban Meyer is long for the NFL, 578 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: but we'll see. Uh. Yeah, that's gonna do it for 579 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: this show. So for my partner Matt Williamson for Jacob 580 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: ric here on site keeping us on the air, I'm 581 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: Dale Lally. We thank you for listening to this edition 582 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.