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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: on our radio. Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is Ashley and I have been on the line

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Speaker 1: for just a few minutes to talk about the very

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Speaker 1: very important stuff that happened at Mentel All. It was

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Speaker 1: so juicy, and of course, like almost every episode this season,

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Speaker 1: Luke stole the show, and not necessarily in a good way. Ben,

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Speaker 1: I know there was stuff that you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about with Luke in the very short amount of time

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Speaker 1: as we've talked about this season, you know, the idea

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Speaker 1: And I also, I want to say this, I've learned

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Speaker 1: fluffiest duvet sheets, pillows, comforters. Jared and I have gotten

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Speaker 1: is within the Christian faith and maybe you're right, he

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00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: just doesn't know but where he fits into it, starting

430
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 1: to figure out his own definition of his Christianity, because

431
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people like I think what

432
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: we've been seeing from him is just like he believes

433
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: word by word of the Bible, which makes him judge

434
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: Hannah for what she's doing. Yeah, he doesn't like look

435
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 1: at any sort of like modern it's sort of loose

436
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: interpretation that many people do today. And I think that

437
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: that's why a lot of people are like, you can't,

438
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: you can't do what you're doing well. And here's the

439
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: thing making religion look bad. Here's here's the thing too.

440
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: That kind of made me think of this was when

441
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: I look back to my time, does that make me

442
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: a necessary to look ba um? When I look back

443
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: to my time after the Bachelorette and probably after Paradise

444
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,239
Speaker 1: as well, I was trying. I kind of had this

445
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: idea that I was someone that I wasn't because of

446
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: like the way that you get edited and then you

447
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: want to buy into that edit a little bit. And

448
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: so there were times where I was like digging into

449
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: my own brain trying to figure out exactly the things

450
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: to say. And I think that's why he was pausing

451
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: for so long, was because he still hasn't really figured

452
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: that out exactly who he is yet. But he's trying

453
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: to live by it, Like you said, the Bible almost verbatim,

454
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: and he just doesn't maybe fully understand what that means

455
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: for him yet, but I also think you took accountability

456
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: for that, and I think Luke's lack of accountability makes

457
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: me frustrated. I totally agree with you, Tasha, where I

458
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: do feel bad to him, especially this episode and how

459
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: he was bullied by the rest of the guys. We

460
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: all talked about at this table, how ridiculous we thought

461
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: and over the top the guys were towards him, and

462
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: then specifically Hannah at at Hannah at the end where

463
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: I didn't mind Hannah's entire um Hot Sea interview, Really

464
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: it was a little over the top, but that's forgiven.

465
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: I really hated the last part where she said, um,

466
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: where she said, is everybody tell her to talk about

467
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: Luke p? Does everybody wants to move on to Luke Pe?

468
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: And he also apologize for bringing him so far? And

469
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't think she needs to apologize. Literally ten minutes earlier,

470
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: she was saying how she just needed to figure out

471
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: that on her own, So why is she apologizing ten

472
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: minutes later that she Oh, I'm sorry I cut them

473
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: around so long. There's no need to apologize. And I

474
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: just really hated when she said, is everybody tired of

475
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: talking about Luke p? And she said about four or

476
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: five times while the only person talking about luke P

477
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: in that moment was was her. And I think it

478
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: sucks because Hannah kind of knows what it feels like

479
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: to be on the end of like getting hate and

480
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: bullied by people, you know what I mean, And so

481
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: for her to actually, I don't know, everyone listens to

482
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette and throw his name out there and be like,

483
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: are you tired of that? I'm so sorry for dragging

484
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: him along as long as we did. The end of

485
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: like luke p segment is over, Like she should know

486
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: better not do. Um Let's mention that he did leave

487
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: that taping early because he had to make a wedding

488
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: the next day, and they intentionally made it look like

489
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: he just couldn't handle it anymore, but he had a

490
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: flight to catch I do agree with Sorry. Off topic

491
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: of that, but Jared said earlier how he was frustrated

492
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: that he refused to take accountability, and that was really

493
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: frustrating too. It's like one thing to make a lot

494
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: of mistakes publicly on television, and then it's a whole

495
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: other thing to kind of sit there and be like, yeah,

496
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: I did that. I don't regret any of it. I'm

497
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: not upset about any of it. Deal with it kind

498
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: of thing. All right, let's go back to the first

499
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of the episode, where I thought he had

500
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: the most ridiculous behavior he's had all season, I think

501
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: last even though he denied that his tone was judgmental

502
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: and condescending last week, at least we can say last

503
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: week he was speaking from what, like what he thought

504
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: was a faith point of view. This week when he

505
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: forced himself back to the Rose ceremony and then he

506
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not leaving until I get conclusion and

507
00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: clarity or like, what was it closure that's in sane.

508
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: He was like, you haven't gotten I haven't gotten closure.

509
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: I haven't got closure. Nobody in this franchise gets closure

510
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: until the tell all or after time passes. It just

511
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: takes time to get your closure. Yeah, And I again,

512
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: he was just being very self absorbed the entire time

513
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: because everything, as hand To pointed out, was about him.

514
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: He was speaking from his heart. His heart was on

515
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: the line. Uh, he needed closure. Has that ever happened

516
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: before where someone doesn't get the rose and there's like

517
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stay and I'm just gonna try and

518
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: convince her to talk to me more, convince her to

519
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: love me right, let her. She's let him come back again,

520
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: but so why not do it to try it again?

521
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: This all could have been This all could have been

522
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: avoided if she didn't get that fourth rose right before Hometown.

523
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah she did. Was it was it? She was like

524
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: a sexual thing. No, I don't think she ever planned

525
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: on having sex with him. I'll be honest. I didn't

526
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: watch I didn't watch the Fantasy Sweet episode, but I

527
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: watched the home Town episode, so I missed out on

528
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: that a little bit. But it's just still it was

529
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: mind blowing. It was mind blowing, but an epic move.

530
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: My my favorite moves of Hannah's so far was when

531
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: she moved the podium with the It was like a

532
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: symbolistic movement to show she's moving on. You are not

533
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: part of this. I was a little disappointed in Tyler,

534
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: Pete and Jed for not like being like dude, like

535
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: they were like, do just get out of here? But

536
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: like some I feel like there could have been like

537
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: another step to be taken. I don't know it's actually

538
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: appropriate for them to stand back and let Harrison and

539
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: probably Polly Big Polly security. I saw him scooting the backs,

540
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: definitely about to get involved. It's a tricky thing, right,

541
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Like you're like, how involved do I am I allowed

542
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: to get right now? Like how you don't want to

543
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 1: be the guy starting any type of physical Well, if

544
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: it escalated, what would you have done? Because Luke was

545
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: literally saying I'm not leaving, So the only way to

546
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: get him out would have been to drag him out

547
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: unless Hannah was able to handle the situation. I just

548
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: think that that's that. Uh, that scene went on longer

549
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: than it needed. It was great television. I loved watching it,

550
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: but it went on longer than it should have. I

551
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: think I think someone they could have chopped three minutes out. Yeah,

552
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: But then I don't know, I I kind of it

553
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: did almost feel like this was a situation between Hannah

554
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: and Luke, and I feel that if one or the

555
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: other three guys really stepped here was like I'm going

556
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: to handle this. I don't know. I felt like maybe

557
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: I would have rolled him eyes a little bit, like

558
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: let them just handle it and get this, like, let

559
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: the show handle it, let hand to handle it. I

560
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: guess the frustrating thing about it is it's it was

561
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: already handled and so it's like, yeah, like that's kind

562
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: of where it is. But at the same time, it's

563
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: not like Luke ran into the road ceremony and like

564
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: was running away from security and they couldn't catch him,

565
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: Like they let him back. He was in the car,

566
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: but they let him back on the show. Let me

567
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: ask you, do you who do you think came up

568
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: with the idea? Do you think it was Luke or

569
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: do you think it was a production the combination. I'm

570
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: sure I think it's a commodation. But the fact again,

571
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: I think Luke lack self awareness because at that moment,

572
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: even if they were like, hey, do you want to

573
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: go back on, you should have been like, no, it's

574
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: that and if you really cared for her, if you

575
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: cared for and also just kind of could read the situation.

576
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: You can't read situation. Let me ask you this, Jared.

577
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: If if one of Ashley's exes came up one day

578
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, Ashley, I miss you. I wanted

579
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: like let's talk about this, let's figure this out. What

580
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: would you like? What would you react? Different? Different? Absolutely,

581
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,239
Speaker 1: I know, but like you would be like but if

582
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: it was like you'd be like, dude, get the hell

583
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: like you would almost physically remove him from them. Yes,

584
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: but you also have to be understanding of the situation

585
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: you're in. You're on the Bachelor where there are other

586
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: guys that she is dating, and you are one of

587
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: those guys. You are not the guy, and as frustrating

588
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: and hard as that can be, sometimes you kind of

589
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: have to be aware of your surroundings. So you have

590
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: less rights to act like a boyfriend because you're not

591
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: technically a boyfriend yet. So if you guys were in

592
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: the lineup with Tyler, Ce and Chad and Pete, you

593
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: would have said something, Dean. I mean, I say I

594
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: would have said something, but honestly, I probably done the

595
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: exact same thing that they did. I as soon as

596
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: this such situation started escalating, you walk up and you're like, hey,

597
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: let's all calm down, and then like let them hash

598
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: it out. Because but how cool would it be if

599
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: you just handled Well, you could tell, you know, it's

600
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: really cool, you just want to fight, to be honest, Well,

601
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: you could tell that the with the way the camera

602
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: was set up, they wanted it to be a Tyler

603
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: versus Luke p show because they had that awesome shot

604
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: of excuse me, Luke's left with Tyler over his on

605
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: his side, and they kept bringing Tyler in in focus

606
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: and out of focus, and you could tell it is

607
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: like such like the hero versus the villain shot. But

608
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 1: I loved that because it actually looked like Tyler was

609
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: annoyed on behalf of Hannah, like he truly cared and

610
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: wanted to protect and be manly with Hannah. Of course,

611
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: have you ever seen do we talk about this year

612
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: or did I just talk about this earlier? Do you

613
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: ever see final three contestants be such good friends? It's

614
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: been a while. I think I like it. Yeah, I

615
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: think that they're all bonding over their disdain for Luke,

616
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: I would assume, but it's like they all seem like

617
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: they're literally best friends. Do you like that? Yeah? I do.

618
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: My season was Becca, Whitney and Caitlin and they were

619
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: all really tight. Yeah. On ours, it was Kaylin, me

620
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: who else, Cassidy in energy. These are friends, but they

621
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: seem like they're legitimate, like they're rooting for each other.

622
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: Even Jed made a comment where he was like, I

623
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: want I'm glad that it's down to three that I'm

624
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: that Hannah should end up with it, Like he even

625
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: said that it sounded like he would be happy if

626
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: even she ended up with one of his two friends, right.

627
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: But there's something that's always stuck in the back of

628
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: my mind that actually Nick said, because obviously Nick wasn't

629
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: really that like within his friend group at the time

630
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: on both seasons of his bachelorette and he always kind

631
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: of it was I don't want to put words in

632
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: his mouth, but it was something along the lines of,

633
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, I like these guys, but I'm not here

634
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: for them, And so that's always kind of stuck out

635
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: to me. Where guys, if they're really close, it's like, well, yeah, guys,

636
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: you want to be friends, of course, but now do

637
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: you like you should you should be rooting for anybody

638
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: else at this point. You should not be like, oh,

639
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: well if Jed wins, great, Oh if Tyler wins, that's

640
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: fine too. It's like, no, it's nice, I love this

641
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: girl in my heart like I want this girl. So

642
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: sometimes when they're too chilly, it makes me a little

643
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Speaker 1: of a question. Then how about like that Wilson Phillips

644
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645
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646
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Speaker 1: true love means that you just want that person to

647
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648
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Speaker 1: don't personally believe this I could because I couldn't do it,

649
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Speaker 1: Like I know myself, I'm not that good of a person.

650
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Speaker 1: That's like a nice song to write, but in real

651
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Speaker 1: life that's a hard Deans nodding, though, what do you

652
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Speaker 1: think you really could? Like you'd be happier if your

653
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Speaker 1: love moved on and was with somebody that that's like

654
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: the origin of a lot of colloquialisms right where it's

655
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Speaker 1: like if you love a flower, don't pick it because

656
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,320
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657
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,520
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658
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 1: you're like cutting it off. It's at its head, right,

659
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: So like if the flower is Hannah, then you want

660
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Speaker 1: that flower to bloom and blossom as much as it

661
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Speaker 1: possibly can. And if you're the one picking it, then

662
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: it's not going to like necessarily get there. As like,

663
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: but do you understand what I'm saying In a sense

664
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: where it's like if you really truly love it someone

665
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666
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Speaker 1: any at all, Like you have to like work to

667
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Speaker 1: achieve enlightenment to be there. But like I think at

668
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: the root of the at the root of what love

669
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Speaker 1: really could be, I think that that there is an

670
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: argument to be made for that. I agree there's two sides.

671
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: There's two sides. One is the normal human side, which

672
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: is you shouldn't want her to end up with anybody

673
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: at this point. If you are some crazy Buddha, then sure.

674
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: There's the other side, which Jed is reflecting, and Jed,

675
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: we all know, is no Buddha. Well, anytime Jed speaks

676
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: on the show anymore, my eyes immediately rolled to the

677
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: back of my fame. It is funny looking at it

678
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,840
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679
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00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: During the show, you said that it's a totally legitimate question,

727
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: totally fair question to ask the girl, the lead, the bachelorette,

728
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: if she's had sex with any of the other guys,

729
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: can you please explain your feelings? I mean, whether it's

730
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: the bachelor who's being questioned by a bachelorette contestant, or

731
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: a bachelorette being questioned by a bachelor contestant. I mean,

732
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: if you're going into a fantasy suite literally the day

733
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: or two days after she just went into a fancy

734
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: suite as someone else. I don't think it's really outside

735
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: the lines to ask, hey, did anything happen? Or I

736
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: mean right, I mean, let's let'sen let's put this back

737
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: into real life for a second. Say you knew someone

738
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: you were going into an overnight date with had just

739
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: been in an overnight date with another person two days prior.

740
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: You wouldn't want to know what you're getting yourself into,

741
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: like just in case things you know open and why

742
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: doesn't anybody ask? Or do you think that they asked

743
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: beyond the closed doors of the fantasy suit. Yes, let's

744
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: flip flop it real quick too. I think is it

745
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: I think it almost looks less bad for a girl

746
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: to ask a bachelor that question. Yeah, it's definitely the

747
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: double standard, but yes, I just wanted to point that out. Yeah,

748
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: it definitely is. Um Okay, I think Luke was in

749
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: every I mean the way he phrased it and the

750
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: whole thing about I'm going to leave if you did

751
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: have something all the work. We're not talking about the

752
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: Luke specific situation, because Luke had plenty of connotations and

753
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: judgment around the way you said it. But in general,

754
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: we've never really seen a bachelor bachelorette be questioned about

755
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: the other fantasy suites. Yeah, I mean, I don't think

756
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: it's really that crazy. You don't have to keep it

757
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: private just because you're about to go into an overnight

758
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: date with this person, or maybe it has been asked

759
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: and we just haven't seen it be here before. I

760
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: think the smart move is to ask in the fantasy suite,

761
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: and that's why we haven't seen it. I think that's

762
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: what Jared is trying to say, right. So, it's like,

763
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure that conversation has been had three percent of

764
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: the time every single time. I guess it of us

765
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: have been well you maybe I don't know if you

766
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: have the cults or not. You maybe speak about this,

767
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: did you it was required? It was obviously the first

768
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: one because he was also a virgin, so how to

769
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: worry about that? But also I was the first person

770
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: to go into the fantasy suite, so maybe if I

771
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: was the second or the third, I would have asked that,

772
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: did you know that you were the first person? Because

773
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that at that point you you really

774
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: sure where the order of the dates are. I mean,

775
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: I guess in my head I kind of figured it out,

776
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: but I think with colton's a little different because you

777
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: kind of it's a foregone conclusion he's not going to

778
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: But I will say that I did think about, like

779
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: if I would have sex with them. First, I wouldn't

780
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: want to have sex with him second, you know what

781
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's also you're you know, you're falling

782
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: in love with this person, and so I don't think

783
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: it's Listen, you can't be like, please, don't have sex

784
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: with anybody. That's their choice. But if you're if you are,

785
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: just if you're the second person on a fantacy sweet night,

786
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really crazy to be like, hey, listen,

787
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: did you sleep with that person? Because if things escalate

788
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: with us tonight. You know, it's just even asked questions

789
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: about like I don't know. I know everybody's tested before

790
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: the show, but then you get into like some kind

791
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: of muddy details that you really just want to know

792
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: as a human being. Okay, I love you. I don't

793
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: think you would have asked Caitlin and well that's who.

794
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: Of course I would have. You really would have asked

795
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 1: Caitlin if somebody before well, god, that was four years

796
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: I think that back then you wouldn't have. I think

797
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: that Jared today definitely would have asked. But I think

798
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: then you were like I mean, it was also twenty

799
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: six and I look back on that time and I

800
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: thought I was young then, and I do sometimes I

801
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: look back and I think I was too young to

802
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: be on the show. You're so we're both be on. Yeah,

803
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: I think, you know, becoming the person I am now. Yeah,

804
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have been ready today

805
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: you would say something. I'm not worried. I'm not worried.

806
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm not like, I don't not think. I don't think

807
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: it's outrageous to ask. But I think that when you

808
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: were younger, I don't think you would have. I think

809
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: you would be thought that, like you worship heir and

810
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: you couldn't get you couldn't ruffle her any fathers with that?

811
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: Moving on? Wait, no, you know what I mean, Like

812
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: you definitely looked at her like she was the bachelorette. Yes,

813
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: we all do, right, I looked at Rachel the same

814
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: way you looked at Colton the same way the deans like,

815
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but anyway, point is like you look

816
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: at them and you're like, wow, you know that's the

817
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: person I'm striving to be with. So there's already you know,

818
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: a celebrity thing saw on TV. Yeah, that's weird that.

819
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: Were you not affected by that at all? Did you

820
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: not view at least called me first met him as

821
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: sometimes celebrity did. Yeah, the same thing with me. I

822
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: was really nervous around him. I thought he was just

823
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, you're like, oh my god, this

824
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: guy's on TV. I'm a nobody. I think the conclusion

825
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: is that it's okay to ask, But just the way

826
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: he handled himself afterwards maybe wasn't the best. Of course. No,

827
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: it was just when it was brought up tonight where

828
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: I forget how it was put. But somebody pretty much

829
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: said like kind of felt like out of bounds to ask.

830
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I disagree anyway. Can we talk about

831
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: bullying for a second, because I know we're all talking

832
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: about that. I don't know if anybody wants to step

833
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: in on that, but my first reaction, Uh, listen, these

834
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: guys and the girls put themselves on the show. We

835
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: are open to scrutiny. We're open to judgment. But if

836
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: you're in that mentell audience, you're open to scrutiny as well,

837
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: because you're the one signing that you're gonna be on

838
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: the show. And the fact that they're clapping and just

839
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: and cringing at Luke p laughing at him, that I

840
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: hated it was bullying, Like you need to be held

841
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: accountable too, Like, don't laugh at him. That's still human

842
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: being up there. They definitely are making making it feel

843
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: like he's like a character in a movie. That you

844
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: can hate a character, don't you can't hate it, like, well,

845
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: try not to a person. There was So there's this

846
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: experiment a long time ago. I don't remember the name

847
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: of it right every time I can't remember. I think

848
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: it was monkeys or something. That experiment experimenting on, they

849
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: would make a sound like some sound like a bell.

850
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: Every time they ring the bell, they would give the

851
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: monkey a mint or something right, and then so eventually

852
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: they would ring the bell and there would be no mint,

853
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: and the monkey would freak out. Essentially, what's happening is

854
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: these people, the contestants specifically talk about Luke, and they

855
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: get basically lifted up for it. Everyone's like, that's awesome,

856
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: talk about Luke. Yes, and so then everyone else is like,

857
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to it about Luke because everyone

858
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: loves it when people talk to it about Luke. Because

859
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know they're going to get it. Was like

860
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: that guy who went up to them, what was his

861
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: name even I don't even know what his name was. No,

862
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it was Devon Dustin dust No, it

863
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: wasn't Dustin. It was Devon. I like Dustin. I think

864
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: we've all liked Dustin. It was like, who was this

865
00:42:51,520 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: guy from backstage? Too? Yeah? And he's like, I'm so poorn.

866
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: My my opinion is so valuable right now I need

867
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: to come up and express it. Did he go down?

868
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: He went home really early on the thing? Anything? He

869
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: doesn't know anything, Yeah, but I just like audience and

870
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: audience at home know that you are. Do you think

871
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: that you're all innocent in this, but you're not participating

872
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: in bullying? To be honest with you, it's just like

873
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: writing a mean comment on somebody's photo. Yeah, you know

874
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, and everyone liking it. It's the same.

875
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 1: It's the same damn thing. Yeah, it's frustrating. No one's

876
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: free of reproach, right, And so it's like if you're

877
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: giving ship about someone even though you have a lot

878
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: of ship going on as well, it's like the people

879
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: that are bullying are really the ones that are dealing

880
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: with a lot of their own stuff too, And doesn't

881
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: make it right, No, not at all, that's what I'm saying.

882
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: But it's just like it's like, make sure your house

883
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: is clean before you go and criticize other people's dirty

884
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: house this kind of thing. You know what exactly? The

885
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: thing is their house will never be clean because my

886
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: house isn't clean, Your house isn't clean. Nobody's is right.

887
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: And so like the things that we say reactionary, we're

888
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: watching the show, it's keep it in the context of

889
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: your own living room wherever you watch the show. Why

890
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: do people feel a necessity to say I'm so emotional

891
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: and emotionally attached to this show that I'm gonna go

892
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: on social media and type out exactly my thoughts and

893
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: put a comment under somebody. It's like, just just say it,

894
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: and the confines your your own home, because we all

895
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: say things that are exaggerated or dramatic and just keep

896
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: it at that. It just mind. One of the bullying

897
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: tactics from the guys was to use that word psychopath,

898
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: and I wanted to bring that back to this um

899
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: the definition of psychopath and Babe, a picture of Anakin

900
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: Skywalker goes along with this. It's it's uh traditionally a

901
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: personality disorder characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse,

902
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: and bold, disinhibited and egotistical traits. It's sometimes considered phenomena

903
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: us with sociopathy. And I were going to say that

904
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: that's not Luke. I mean, I mean to say that

905
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: he's definitely um he I think I don't know, impaired empathy.

906
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: I feel like he may have empathy. What's impaired? I

907
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: guess the fact I put a question mark, it's just

908
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: an antisocial behavior. He certainly doesn't get along with the

909
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: other guys. I also think he was isolated. He was isolated.

910
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean he got you know, he was going to

911
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: like push himself further and further from them because he

912
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: tried with them, but they would not let them in.

913
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: He would couldn't let him in try after that. So

914
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I was at these stupid stories. So

915
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: I read a book a while ago. I read a

916
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: book a while ago. I read I read every once

917
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: in a while. It's a book called The Psychopath Test

918
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: by Ron Bronson. If you haven't read it, check it out.

919
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: It's a fantastic book. Why did you have to read it?

920
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: I just thought on the bookshelf and I was curious.

921
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: So in the book, he lists off. He goes, there,

922
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: these are twenty two things that attribute to being a psychopath.

923
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: It's basically a checklist. You go down the list, and

924
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: if you hit thirteen of them, you're considered a psychopath.

925
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: You go through all of them, every single one you

926
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: go through, you're like, oh crap, Like I kind of

927
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: fit in that. Oh crap, that's kind of me. And

928
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: at the very end, he goes and by the way,

929
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: if you're asking yourself if you might be a psychopath.

930
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: You're not a psychopath, because psychopaths don't do that. Luke

931
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: p didn't really seem to express much remorse at the

932
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: mental law, and I think that if he were to

933
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: go through that twenty to check checklist, he might not

934
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: have ever asked himself that question. I mean, who knows.

935
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: But then again, you might be right with your theory earlier,

936
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: where he's just kind of this lost guy trying to

937
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: figure out who he is and where he fits within

938
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: this Christian faith, and he's he's you know what he is.

939
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: He's kind of like the guy who reads a political

940
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: headline and then immediately just regurgitates everything he just read

941
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: in a three paragraph article and he's like, no, no, no,

942
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm right because I this and that and that, And

943
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: you're like, you just read that on Twitter and you're

944
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: using bulleton points to bulleton points to try to defend yourself.

945
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: And so that was a little frustrating to watch because

946
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: I was really hoping Luke would come on, and you

947
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: always want everybody wants a redemption story, right, So I

948
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: think I think we're all rooting for Luke Pe to

949
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: come on and be like, hey, I screwed up. You know,

950
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: I made a mess of things, and he did that

951
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: to an extent, But then he kept doubling down on

952
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: everything he said during the show, and it's like, but

953
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: then again, like we talked about, I think the guys

954
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: piled on Hannah piled on towards the end um, and

955
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: I think we've all been you know, we all a

956
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: lot of Hannah um. But I just didn't like that

957
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: one moment. I think the funniest part is that he

958
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: continues to be like, I was misunderstood when I said, um,

959
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: if you had sex with anybody in the dantasy suits,

960
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: I would remove myself from this. He was like, I

961
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: was misunderstood. No, dude, you said that statement. How can

962
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 1: that be missen? How can that be interpreted any other way?

963
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: That's that Actually, I'm glad you brought that up, because

964
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: that frustrated me a lot too. He said he always

965
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: was blaming the other person for not understanding what he

966
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: said when he should just say I misspoke or maybe

967
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: I didn't like say the right thing. He never took

968
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: accountability for that, and that was really frustrating. Like I

969
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: said that I said the wrong thing, would not you misunderstood?

970
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: Because then that's kind of like alleviating himself of the blame.

971
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: Perfect point. Yes, such a perfect point. Does anybody have

972
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: anything else to say about Luke? Before we move on?

973
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: One thing that I just really again disliked. Connor seems

974
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: like a very nice guy. Hated how he decided out

975
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: of nowhere to tell Luke f you come man, Yeah

976
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: he didn't high school. I think that pulls back down

977
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: to getting positive attention for that, like he's just like,

978
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get mine while the top kind of thing,

979
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, but then then

980
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: that goes back to the audience just willy nilly flapping

981
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: anything bad said about Luke. P go, guys. It's like,

982
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: can we just all settle down and be adults for

983
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: two minutes or however long filming is. We don't see

984
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: Luke in the preview for Paradise, and um, Dean, we

985
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: don't see you either, talking about yeah you're you're not

986
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: the original You're not in the original castle. I got

987
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: scared for a second. So you guys are in Paradise.

988
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: We don't see Luke in Paradise in the preview, and

989
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: is there any opinions on why you think he's not there?

990
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: I think he probably I think he was probably advised

991
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: that it wouldn't help his case unless he was a

992
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: completely changed man, which is by the mental he's not.

993
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: He's maybe changing shave. But I feel like if you

994
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: would have apologized, would we all think that he's a

995
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: changed man? I feel like we would have just pulled

996
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: our eyes if he humbled himself, if you presented himself

997
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: and like and I'm sorry, like totally, it just nobody would. Well,

998
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: it depends on his It depends on everything, right, because

999
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: whenever somebody apologizes to you, I think all of us

1000
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: as people can really tell whether it's genuine or not.

1001
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: Um And so I think it was all how he

1002
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: handled himself and presented himself and not saying he should

1003
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: have just come and been like I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

1004
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but at least been you know, understanding of yeah,

1005
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: I know, I get it. You know, I said some

1006
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: bad things. I misspoken. Uh, you know, I regret some things,

1007
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: and I was being hypocritical at times. And you know,

1008
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else was perfect, but you know,

1009
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: just something along the lines. But to titious point, I

1010
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,959
Speaker 1: will say that we've seen so many villains on one

1011
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: season become love the next season. So I think it

1012
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: would have been possible. All right, let's move on to

1013
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: other things, but first let's take a break for our sponsors. Alright.

1014
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: Other hot seats on this episode included John Paul Jones,

1015
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: everybody's favorite guy, who got such little screen time. But

1016
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: I think we'll play a big role in Paradise. Can

1017
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: we confirm? I mean, he does look at the he's

1018
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: all over the map. He's definitely. That's definitely why he

1019
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: had a hot seat. It wasn't for anything that he

1020
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: did on Hannessy's like the lead in Almost It's Shadow.

1021
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: It seems like we're going to see different side him

1022
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: because he's very emotional at the end, he was crying,

1023
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: he got in someone's face. Yeah, I don't think we

1024
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: saw any of that on his season. We saw that,

1025
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: what's up, dude, sick? Let's get it. He was made

1026
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: for Paradise. Oh yeah, absolutely? Who else had a hot seat? Mike?

1027
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: Mike who? I think that they are like trying to

1028
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: make the Bachelor, or at least trying to plant the

1029
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: idea of him being the bachelor and some people's heads.

1030
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: But I just I don't think it's going to happen.

1031
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 1: I was kind of honest a couple of weeks ago

1032
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: when I did meet Mike, albeit very briefly, I didn't

1033
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: get the warmest vibes from him. He didn't come across

1034
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: in person the way he did on DV. That's all

1035
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to say about that, because truly I had

1036
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: I exchanged maybe two minutes of conversation with the guy.

1037
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: How do you guys think Mike came off on at all?

1038
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: I was really impressed by honestly on the mental law. Yeah,

1039
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: he's are super articulate, he speaks well. Um. I didn't

1040
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: like when he called out Luke P though, at the

1041
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: same time, because he called him what a misogynist and

1042
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: he said that his future wife is going to be

1043
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: a prisoner of his hated and it's like, can we

1044
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: just all like, does everybody have to just vocalize the

1045
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: worst things that they think about Luke P? Like can

1046
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: we just move past You're not dealing with him anymore? Yeah,

1047
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: and just yeah, It's like if it didn't have set

1048
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: to your life, did I are you like and see

1049
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: if you ended up with her, it would still be

1050
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: like it would be different because you're like, you really

1051
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: hurt and you gave my fiance the worst time exactly,

1052
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: but didn't know I really liked I can't remember exactly

1053
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: what Dylan said, but it was it was a throwaway

1054
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: line almost, but he it was a throwaway line because

1055
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: he just said one thing and he said something like, hey,

1056
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: Luke p, I'm rooting for you. Um, but like, you know,

1057
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: you just have a lot of work to do something

1058
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: like that. And it was so simple, and it was like,

1059
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: but that's all that needed said instead of Connor saying

1060
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: f you and Mike being like your future is going

1061
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: to be a prisoner and like, and then what's his

1062
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: name going up to the hot seat, and then the

1063
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: other guy I don't remember, who's Brent. I don't know

1064
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: what his name is, Grant, Grant, thank you? Who's I

1065
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell he was doing, but he

1066
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: was flammering all over the place. Um. And then I

1067
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: actually liked Mateo. When Matteo went to Mateo for a

1068
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: hot second, was like, hey, let's just let's all move on.

1069
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: We didn't hear much from Garrett, who was quite a

1070
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: heated character this season. It is pretty interesting, do we

1071
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 1: know we haven't seen Garrett in any Paradise promodes Nope,

1072
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: So maybe they just weren't teeing him up for anything. Yeah,

1073
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: that's interesting though, because he was you know, usually it's

1074
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: really dumb. But the further you are on the left

1075
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: of the hot seat, the more prone you are on

1076
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: that lower level like where Mike was sitting. You know,

1077
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: usually those first like three or four like big characters. Um,

1078
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm assuming Garrett would be in Paradise

1079
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: on a white wouldn't piece, So you know, yeah, it's

1080
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: weird that he just because Yeah, it's weird. It's weird.

1081
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, who else did we see in Paradise at

1082
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: should we should comment on? Demi? Definitely refers to her,

1083
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: definitely refers to being in love with a woman her. Yeah,

1084
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how they handle that as the show.

1085
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like it might be the first

1086
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: of its kind. There's some sort of fist fight that

1087
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: looks like involves Jordan's I don't know who the other

1088
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: party is, can see the face, but that looks pretty

1089
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: intense Jordan's back. We know that the last time things

1090
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: got physical in Paradise was with Chad and he got

1091
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: immediately exit out of the process. He got drunk night

1092
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: one and he took good No, he not Sara Harron.

1093
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: He took a swing at Daniel. I think it was

1094
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: more playful than anything Canadian Daniel. But it was like

1095
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: an open, open hand swing. Wasn't like a fist. He

1096
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: just like went like that. Try to like spot his

1097
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: hand away. Um, but that was, you know, good enough

1098
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: for him to get kicked off the show. Apparently so.

1099
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: And then he had some issues with Sarah Hearn where

1100
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: he called her some bad things he later apologized for. Yeah,

1101
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: I apologize, but that's the whole reason I would never

1102
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: be friends with him or have any interest in like

1103
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: being nice to him, because he seems like a real jerk.

1104
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: Who else is in Paradise? Uh? Yeah, I mean the

1105
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: trailer look good. You guys look like you're gonna be

1106
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: very involved. The mustache you crying, tatious, a little upset.

1107
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: The mustache don't have as much of an appearance. I

1108
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: think the mustache is gonna have plenty. It had its

1109
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: own Um, I really didn't know. But why wasn't I

1110
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: more of a central focus? And this is what myself, Tassia.

1111
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: We saw you making out with Blake saw Hannah g

1112
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: and Blake a lot. Everybody seemed to want to ship

1113
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: them Going into this season. We saw Demi accusing Blake

1114
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: of making his rounds, so to speak. I'm curious how

1115
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: that's going to play out too. I can't wait for

1116
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: y'all to see that. Oh interesting. Katie was very upset

1117
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: about not being able to help who she fell in

1118
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: love with. Oh, I can't help, I can't help, she said.

1119
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't remember her saying that. She did say that, Okay,

1120
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: all right. Interesting. It's funny because, like, you know, we

1121
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: kind of know, yeah, but like maybe it's Katie and Demi.

1122
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I know she could be referring to somebody else.

1123
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, you know, super upset, I can't help

1124
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: who I love. There's nothing wrong with that baby. Yeah, Okay, guys,

1125
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: well I think they broke it down pretty well. I mean,

1126
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about many people beyond Luke Key, but

1127
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: that honestly was the Luke p Show. Again. How did

1128
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: we How did we think of Hannah? How do you

1129
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 1: think she did? Sorry, Kaa, how do you think Handah

1130
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: did on her mental? Um? I thought she looks stunning?

1131
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: Number one? She looked? Um, I thought, I don't know,

1132
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, the end of it

1133
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: kind of rebbed me the wrong way. I just really

1134
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: didn't think she needed nailed to luke p anymore. Yeah,

1135
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: I thought she was great until that one last line.

1136
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: But that touch she handles herself well. I really liked

1137
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: how she was talking about baggage and she started pointing

1138
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: around at all the guys and she was like, I've

1139
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: something like I've got baggage, You've got baggage, You've got baggage.

1140
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 1: We all got bagged. What was it? Oh, we all

1141
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 1: live in sin you said every day? Do. I love

1142
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: the way she handled herself during the first twenty minutes.

1143
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: It was just like, um, you know, sequel to last

1144
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: week's episode, I thought was pretty allen, So I agree,

1145
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: And you said something last week, um to me. I

1146
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: think off the podcast and it's funny how everybody before

1147
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: the season thought that Hannah was not going to be

1148
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: able to articulate herself. That was the big concern coming in.

1149
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: And I think we can all agree that she's the

1150
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: most the most expressive and communicative and like smart whipped,

1151
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, like that quick witted, always has a comeback woman.

1152
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: You compare that to remember first one with Colton in

1153
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: the hot That's amazing. She's growing up right in front

1154
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: of our eyes. It's almost like it's not even the

1155
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: same person. I was gonna make you comments before we

1156
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: jumped into the Hannah b thing. Do you think we're

1157
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: kind of being hypocritical of we give Hannah b crap

1158
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: for always talking about Luke P and then here we

1159
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: are talking about Luke P. Of course we are. But

1160
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: the reason we're talking about it is because Hannah talked

1161
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: about it's a slippery slope, the very slippery self. And honestly,

1162
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't bothered about Hannah's um discussion with Luke P

1163
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: until that last second where it was just again catering

1164
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: to the audience. It was like, I'm tired of talking

1165
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: Luke P. And she looked at Chris Harrison was like,

1166
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: are you tired? And then she look at the guy,

1167
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: and then she looked at the audiences like is everybody tired?

1168
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: Like she was Oprah giving stuff away, like and you

1169
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: get a Luke and everybody gets yeah. It's like, oh God,

1170
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: can we the poor guy? Like move on? Do you

1171
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: think this is the last we ever see of Luke P?

1172
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: Quite possibly? Yeah, I think so, I think it might be.

1173
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: Do you think he dug his grave and now he's

1174
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: gonna lie in and just be dead. He should just

1175
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: go high. There's a couple of people in the sertise

1176
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: that like, just go hide. Kelsey Poe, the villain on

1177
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: my season, she moved to France. You're kidding. Yeah, she

1178
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: moved to France, like right after the show. And I

1179
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: remember even in between the filming and Women Tell All,

1180
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: she had already gone and gotten a boyfriend in Paris.

1181
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: So like sometimes like it forces you to really as sad.

1182
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: That is sad, but you feel like you have to

1183
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: run and move because people are like I think she

1184
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 1: loved She just loved France. She felt more shooted there

1185
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: and and anybody who's writing bad things on social media

1186
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: needs to just get a life and move on. But everything,

1187
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: like as soon as the show ends. Every while we

1188
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: were watching, I was like, the kind of Kelsey post situation,

1189
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: Like maybe he's just moved to the country. Instagram. She

1190
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: definitely deleted Instagram. Why would he have Instagram? Keep Instagram?

1191
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: Don't make other people delete your Instagram. Like, listen, Luke

1192
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: p has some issues and he needs to do some

1193
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: soul searching. But at the same time the idea that

1194
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: where anybody to tell somebody else to delete their Instagram

1195
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: because of trolls. I don't want to be that person

1196
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: to be like, no, just to stay away because the

1197
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: internet is going to be too harsh for you, Like no,

1198
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: screw those people, You're fine. I mean, you know, with

1199
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: having an Instagram that makes sense. I don't want to

1200
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't want the trolls to win and otate because

1201
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: if we tell Lupete to delete his Instagram, those trolls

1202
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: who are saying terrible things win. It's true, and you

1203
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: guys would be shocked at the amount of kind comments

1204
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: he has on his Instagram. I started it out last week. Yeah,

1205
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: I meant to bring that up. I wonder, um, if

1206
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: that's kind of why he feels vindicated and the things

1207
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: that he doesn't says is because he's still is surrounded

1208
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: by positivity sometimes and I think that I'm religiously an

1209
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: apt I don't know much, but I think if that

1210
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: I wonder if that stems from the radical side of Christianity,

1211
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: where they're like, I see what he's doing and it's

1212
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: the path of God. And because of that, I want

1213
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: to build him up. Definitely saw comments about that on

1214
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: this Instagram last week. That's kind of what I'm wondering.

1215
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 1: I can see Luke Pie coming back in like two

1216
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: to three years. You know what if he does come

1217
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: back and he's like, uh, he's he's kind of a

1218
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: new man so to speak, wants to, you know, give

1219
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: it another go of. So he goes to Paradise, you know,

1220
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: and by that time people have kind of forgotten and

1221
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, he was kind of a little

1222
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: weird on his season. The thing that kind of stinks

1223
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: for him now and for any villain coming off the

1224
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: season that decides not to go almost immediately into Paradise,

1225
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: is now he's going to be tied to the shitty

1226
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: behavior he's had forever exactly. No one's gonna have any

1227
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: other um exposure to him, our idea of him. So

1228
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: it's like, that's just now who he is publicly. Privately

1229
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: maybe entirely different, but publicly that's who he is. That's

1230
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: really sad. Last question for you guys, how do you

1231
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: foresee next week unfolding? I'm excited is getting eliminated? Who's

1232
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: getting eliminated? Well, so next week is what is is

1233
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: next week saw the final two part, so I think

1234
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, eliminate one of the guys go

1235
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: into those two dates. Then it will be the tell

1236
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: all will be the you know, finale, finale, after the

1237
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: Final Rose, after the final is next week the final week.

1238
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: And it's like, I think the biggest question here is

1239
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: with just three left, one of them being Jed, if

1240
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: she does end up with Jed, the tell all is

1241
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: not tell all? What was it called? After the Final

1242
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: Rose is going to be such a so captivating, like

1243
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: that's our ultimate cliffhanger. Well, everything, you know, everything I

1244
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: see that comes out of Jed's mouth right now, I

1245
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: just immediately scrutinized and probably look way into because like

1246
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I'm like, you have

1247
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: a girlfriend. You have a girlfriend back home. We've talked

1248
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: plenty about it. Yeah, well cases articles written written about it.

1249
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,479
Speaker 1: You're right, Oh, there was this. There was a part

1250
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: in the episode that we just watched where the audience

1251
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: applauded for Jed, and I don't think that they actually

1252
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: did applaud for Jed. I think they took a clip

1253
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: of them applauding elsewhere and put it in there to

1254
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: Jed's Yeah, why would you Because here's the thing, and

1255
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: I've said it before. Jed has not said anything. He

1256
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: has not come out and tried to defend himself. And

1257
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: if he's getting advice to not say anything, I don't

1258
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: think it's good advice because now, in my head, the

1259
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: story is two months old. I believe the story now

1260
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: because I haven't heard anything else. I creeped on his

1261
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: Instagram the other day and it says something along the

1262
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: lines of just protecting his family, protecting my family. I

1263
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: can't speak on it now, but I will when I can.

1264
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm probably telling you he could not do it, Jared.

1265
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: They were for not being able to send him after

1266
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: the Final Rose and regardless of whether or not he's

1267
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Speaker 1: with Hannah, Yeah, he's gonna be on that reunion show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be. He's on to Find a Rose because

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Speaker 1: it's mental all. Next week's final and there's three guys, Young, Peter, Tyler,

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Speaker 1: and Jed say he comes on. He says it's not true. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you going to believe him? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean I need like proof, like now, like from

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Speaker 1: people legit receipts. Yeah, I have facts to brack it

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Speaker 1: up because at this point we're all kind of believing

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Speaker 1: what's been out what's out there exactly Like he said,

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Speaker 1: either way, I'm glued to my seat. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's super interesting us better drama. Um yeah, should be interesting.

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Speaker 1: But who do we think she's going to end up with? Tyler? See,

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Speaker 1: I'm the biggest Tyler c stand in the world. I

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01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: am too. I love how he's proven me wrong because

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, I was like, I

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01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: can't trust him, and now I'm like, I give him

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01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: all of my trust. I like, I like, what do

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Speaker 1: you think of Pete with the beard? I like, guys,

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01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't like it at all. It's so innocent in

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01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: baby face. He should just embrace it. I liked it.

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01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 1: I like Luke Pete with the beard. I like Pete

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Speaker 1: without a beard. Oh I think I like Luke without

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Speaker 1: the beard. Pete was unpredictable, Like he's going to fly

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Speaker 1: me to an article and maybe leave me. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: he'll take me back home. I don't know, but maybe

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Speaker 1: he'll marry You want to I want to roll the

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01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: dice with that kind of Pete. You know what I mean? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Do you think Pete should um talk about the article

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01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: that came about. I don't think it's worth mentioning he

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Speaker 1: broke up with her. Whether or not he broke up

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Speaker 1: with her to go on this show or not, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter to me. All that matters is that

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Speaker 1: he did do the right thing by breaking up with her. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the timing also needs to be addressed, because

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Speaker 1: the guy, because the guy got liminated night one, broke

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Speaker 1: up with his girlfriend too, technically, but he just did

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Speaker 1: it the day before day before he left. You know,

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Speaker 1: he broke up with her December December. Yeah, that's three

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01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: months before filming starts. Yeah, so that's totally fine. I

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Speaker 1: agree he started to be um, you know, probably started

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Speaker 1: casting though, like really started casting. Somebody asked last week,

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Speaker 1: they're like nominated, What does nominated mean? That was one

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Speaker 1: of the emails that we've gotten. I don't think we

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Speaker 1: answered it clearly. Being nominated means like your friend or

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Speaker 1: your family members signed you up for the show, and

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Speaker 1: you didn't go and apply for yourself nominated And for

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Speaker 1: my timeline, just for a reference, I was I first

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Speaker 1: talked to a producer of February twelve, and then I

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Speaker 1: was on the show March fourteenth, ast of different timelines

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Speaker 1: for everyone. I was from my sending in the application

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Speaker 1: in to me being on the show was thirteen months.

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Speaker 1: It's very different parents was I only even know how

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Speaker 1: long was yours? I got a call in October six months,

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Speaker 1: five months about Tasia. How long was your process? Um?

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Speaker 1: I got a phone call, but I actually said I

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Speaker 1: wasn't interested, and I changed my mind about like three

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Speaker 1: weeks before yourself or no, I was actually nominated, So

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Speaker 1: three weeks. I would consider the three week timeline because

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Speaker 1: did you go through all the medical and all that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff before and then you said no? Did

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Speaker 1: you say? I said no? From the second I got

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Speaker 1: the phone call, I said thank you. And then so

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Speaker 1: once you said yes, I'll do it. Within those three weeks,

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Speaker 1: you did everything you need to do and then you

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Speaker 1: left her filming. Correct. Yeah, see the same thing four

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Speaker 1: weeks for me, It's possible. I'm not saying that Peter

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Speaker 1: is right. I'm just saying that thirteen months, not six months,

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Speaker 1: four weeks, three weeks, or it's all over the place.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I would hold against Peter a little

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Speaker 1: bit is when we all get the phone call At first,

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Speaker 1: we're all asked, are you single? So if he was,

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Speaker 1: if you'd get the phone call in January, then who

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Speaker 1: cares that? But if he did get the phone call

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Speaker 1: before he broke up with a girl and he was like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, I'm still saying going cool, then that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a minischool thing because obviously I'm hoping he didn't

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Speaker 1: dump the person who's meant to be with I Also,

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Speaker 1: I mean like I'm keeping him credit too by saying

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Speaker 1: like you probably hopefully wouldn't be dumping your soul mate,

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Speaker 1: Like if you were that in love and pictured her

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Speaker 1: being your wife, you'd be like, no, screw the show.

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Speaker 1: I don't need that, right. I don't think it's a

1349
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Speaker 1: fun experience, But I don't think it's that cool of

1350
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be like I'm going to dump my girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: going to dump someone in your love with Totally. I

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Speaker 1: just think that it's a cool Like I said, it's

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Speaker 1: a cool experience, but it's not like the coolest thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go to the furthest extreme to make

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Speaker 1: this happen, because you could go home night one, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then it's like, all right, well that was fun

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Speaker 1: and life moves on, you know where other people. We're

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Speaker 1: all sitting here doing a freaking podcast. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: very lucky and blessed hashtag blessed. All right, guys, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining me, and thanks for Ben

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Speaker 1: for his little pop in there. Um. We will see

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Speaker 1: you guys next week. Next week is a huge week,

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Speaker 1: the finale. It's our bread and butter and we can't

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Speaker 1: wait to talk to you guys then. Until then, I've

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Speaker 1: been Ashley, I've been Jared, I've been I've been Tyler C.

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Speaker 1: When I've been Dean, I wish I was Tyler C.

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Speaker 1: John Paul Jones. Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost

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