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Speaker 1: It is Monday, January ten. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.

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Speaker 1: and now a guy who at eight pm really wants

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. My name's J. P. Shadrick. It's the

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Speaker 1: final show of the season and we've got a busy

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Speaker 1: program as always. CBS Sports senior writer Pete Frisco coming

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Speaker 1: up prior to the Jaguars left tackle Tony Boselli has

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Speaker 1: chosen to grace us with his presence tonight in studio

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Speaker 1: or review. Week eighteen a Jaguars w eleven the final score.

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Speaker 1: That's only the fourth time in league history that final

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Speaker 1: score has happened. By the way social media question, there

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Speaker 1: are plenty of those. We'll go around the league. In

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Speaker 1: Week eight teena playoff pree of you all that coming up.

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Speaker 1: The Jags with a stunning went over the Colts that

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Speaker 1: rocked the final week in the a f C playoff race.

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Speaker 1: The Jags offense rolled early, had a long touchdown drive

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Speaker 1: and opening drive touchdown for the first time since Week two.

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Speaker 1: For this Jags team, and they were off and rolling

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Speaker 1: after that. Defense had a couple of second half takeaways,

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Speaker 1: the best all around game the Jags have played all season.

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Speaker 1: After the game, Trevor Lawrence on moving forward, I think

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Speaker 1: I think everybody was kind of saying that in themselves,

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Speaker 1: not not where was this, but just, um, it's always,

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Speaker 1: I guess, mixed emotions. I wouldnt say always. Today is

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Speaker 1: mixed emotions of we finished the way we want to

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Speaker 1: finish and you can't ever go back. And that's something

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Speaker 1: I've learned, is you gotta do everything you can in

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Speaker 1: the moment because you can't go back and change it

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Speaker 1: when it's done. So um, you don't have regrets, but

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Speaker 1: you do have that feeling of just, man, we we

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Speaker 1: could have been doing this all season. It's it's disappointing

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Speaker 1: ums to look back and think that, especially some of

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Speaker 1: the close games we lost and then just games where

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Speaker 1: we didn't play well, but just to think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's who we are, that's what we can do. But

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Speaker 1: you're not that unless you do a weekend in a

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Speaker 1: just the confidence that this builds, you know, going forward,

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Speaker 1: like that's a good that's a good football team that

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Speaker 1: we just we just beat and really dominated the game

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Speaker 1: and just really proud of of our guys. That's the

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Speaker 1: quarterback after the game yesterday, Pete Frisco and Tony Boselli

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Speaker 1: joining us now, good afternoon, Tony, Good afternoon. I I

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Speaker 1: liked his comments there because it was it was honest

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Speaker 1: that you know, it felt good because if you know,

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Speaker 1: they have a good taste in their mouth going forward,

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Speaker 1: and I know there's gonna be a bunch of changes.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a little bit, but let's

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Speaker 1: just talk about Trevor in that comment, because he is

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Speaker 1: a big part of what is going to move forward,

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Speaker 1: and so there's that good taste of saying like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: or had. He's handled himself, you know, beautifully this year,

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Speaker 1: UM through a really tough season and really some tough

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Speaker 1: then he was also honest enough to say, but that's

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Speaker 1: not who we are, because it's only who we are

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Speaker 1: if we do it week in and week out. And

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Speaker 1: that's the truth because that you know, don't get fooled

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Speaker 1: to think that's who this team is. Maybe it's the

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Speaker 1: potential of what they can be, or what we want

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Speaker 1: it's not who they are. Who they are is a

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Speaker 1: thirteen and four three and fourteen team. Um. But yesterday

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Speaker 1: and they did dominate a good football team, um. And

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Speaker 1: they played it perfectly. They took away what they wanted

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Speaker 1: It was fun to watch, and the entire NFL and

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Speaker 1: all the fans in this whole world should be thanking

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars because what they did yesterday set up

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Speaker 1: for the as much drama as this ever happened in

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Speaker 1: for that Sunday night game last night between the Chargers

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Speaker 1: it's a different feeling now, that game would have still

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Speaker 1: that football team, the Jacksonville Jaguars, doesn't play the best

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Speaker 1: game of the season. Pete, good afternoon to you. Um,

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Speaker 1: and that just if anything comes out of the game.

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Speaker 1: Forget about the winning because that doesn't carry over. But

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Speaker 1: what does carry over is the fact that there were

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Speaker 1: it was just that's taking everything else away. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: believe that. But the young players showed up on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: And I watched the tape today, Tony. I don't know

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Speaker 1: And that was I mean, I think that's what Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz is a great quarterback. But defensively, I agree with you, Pete.

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Speaker 1: have major issues is the organization. Have a really good defense,

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Speaker 1: they're good players. But they don't have a quarterback. They

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Speaker 1: don't have a franchise quarterback. I'm sorry, Carson Wentz. Isn't

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Speaker 1: should be Coach of the Year. Hundred and one different

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Speaker 1: to lead that team. And if that guy says I

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Speaker 1: don't want to work with him, then get him out.

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Speaker 1: If that guy says, I can make him a scout,

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Speaker 1: but he's not gonna be influencing my decisions, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get another general I helped get another general manager in here.

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Speaker 1: Then you make up a scout. There are ways around it.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is Trent Falky should not be making

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Speaker 1: the decision to hire the new coach, nor should he

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Speaker 1: be influencing that decision to hire a new coach, because

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Speaker 1: if I'm Trent Balky, human nature tells me I'm looking

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Speaker 1: out for nobody. He's done in a lot in his career.

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Speaker 1: You look out for number one. And if you're looking

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Speaker 1: out for and and look by the way, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna fault him on that, because that's the credo of

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Speaker 1: mine for a long time. But if you're looking out

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Speaker 1: for number one, you're gonna hire somebody that you can

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Speaker 1: work with rather than somebody that might be best for

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Speaker 1: your organization. And that's where the problem is. Well, that's

445
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Speaker 1: why I wouldn't hire you either, be because I don't

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Speaker 1: think you need someone looking at for you know, there's

447
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Speaker 1: no there is an eye and ten. I think that difference, Tony,

448
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Speaker 1: here's the difference. If I was the generalman, I'm joking, manager,

449
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Speaker 1: and I was the coach, we'd find a way to

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Speaker 1: make it work because we're smart enough to realize if

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Speaker 1: you make it work, it's gonna be great for both

452
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Speaker 1: of you. I agree with you, Pete, I'm joking about

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Speaker 1: that somebody that you you brought up a good point,

454
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Speaker 1: though ego has brought down many an NFL team. Well,

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Speaker 1: we saw I mean it didn't work in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and listen, I have nothing against Trent Balky.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying you have to look at history. You

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Speaker 1: have to look at where you are, and you have

459
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Speaker 1: to look at what this team in organization just went

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Speaker 1: through and whether it's right or wrong. Trenton Urban were together. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you hear these stories San Francisco Harbor and

462
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Speaker 1: Trent bad Harbor and Tom Seula bad Hardball. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean Trenton, Tom Seula bad, Trent and Kelly Moron

464
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Speaker 1: Jip Kelly, Trent Moron and Bad and tread and Urban

465
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: were tight and until the end where it was they weren't.

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Speaker 1: And so you see a common theme in there. Well,

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Speaker 1: And I think I want to take a step back

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Speaker 1: to Pete and because you talk about getting there right

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Speaker 1: the right head coach, but I think you before you,

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Speaker 1: even as you're going down that path and find the

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Speaker 1: right coach, I think you have to look at the

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Speaker 1: structure of the organization. I think that's why I'm saying

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Speaker 1: you can't just have dread there. No, I'm not disagree

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Speaker 1: with you. And and and let me ask you, because

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Speaker 1: I have an opinion on this Pete and so much

476
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: you hear about it. It's not just about the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: This point is, well, all these jobs are opening up,

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Speaker 1: but now there's competition, you better get be first. I

479
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: just don't know how much being first matters in this.

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Speaker 1: It's I'd rather get it right. And now, obviously if

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Speaker 1: your first, you have your whole pick. But my fear

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Speaker 1: is you try to be first, you start rushing things

483
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Speaker 1: and you're like, I gotta make a quick decision because

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Speaker 1: I don't want to miss out because all these other

485
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Speaker 1: Because here's the reality, there's only thirty two of these jobs,

486
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Speaker 1: and these coaches will do anything and say anything to

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Speaker 1: get one of these jobs because they're they're they're a

488
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Speaker 1: gold mine and strives to be. So I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not faulting them, by the way, I'm not saying these

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Speaker 1: coaches are bad people. I'm just saying this is like

491
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Speaker 1: human like, this is what they're striving for and these

492
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Speaker 1: are hard to come by. And so I think you

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Speaker 1: have to take a whole step back and look at

494
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Speaker 1: it from a macro sense of like the big picture

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Speaker 1: and like structure and like who we want to be

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Speaker 1: and how do we want to do this? And what

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Speaker 1: is best um for our organization, gives us the best

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Speaker 1: chance to win. And in this case, because you have

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Speaker 1: a young franchise quarterback who I think is the future,

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Speaker 1: you better be thinking about him as you're structuring this

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Speaker 1: organization and who you have involved in it. And here's

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Speaker 1: the other thing. You don't necessarily have to go out

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Speaker 1: and find the hot coordinator from a good defense or

504
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Speaker 1: a good team. You need a leader of men who

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Speaker 1: can delegate, and maybe not even a play callers. Some

506
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Speaker 1: of the best coaches in the league I haven't been

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Speaker 1: play callers. It's Mike Thomas, doesn't do anything on the

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Speaker 1: sidelines plays. John Harbaugh is pretty good. He doesn't do anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so that's the kind of guy you need to find.

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Speaker 1: You need to find a guy like that. But I

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Speaker 1: agree with you on the structure. If you go for

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Speaker 1: an E V P up top, then the general manager,

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Speaker 1: then the coach all working together. And I don't see

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Speaker 1: that we haven't heard Have you heard anything any talking

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Speaker 1: of that? And I have not. I have not heard anything.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean I mean, it's not like I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not like you. And there's a statement from the

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Speaker 1: owners like no, I agree, but he has to think

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00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: Jaguars like, for example, the Bears are leaning on Bill

520
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: Polly and to help him in their search. Yep. And

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have no idea, and there's

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Speaker 1: only one person who does. By the way, it is

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Speaker 1: Amy shot Con. He happens to be the owner of

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Speaker 1: this team. And I'm sure he's talking to certain people

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00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: and getting input, but ultimately this isn't be his call.

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Speaker 1: And this is where I go back to Trent and

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00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: we can move on after this. But you know, right now,

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Speaker 1: Trent Balky is the GM, he's under contract, he is working,

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Speaker 1: and he might be the GM next year and he

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Speaker 1: might not be. We won't know. And maybe in Shot

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Speaker 1: might just say, why am I making a statement. He's

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Speaker 1: the GM, he's under contract, We're moving forward. Maybe he'll

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Speaker 1: come out and say something, maybe he'll make a change.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. I just thinking, look at the big picture.

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Speaker 1: Something has to drastically change because whatever we've been doing

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Speaker 1: for the last ten years isn't working. It's broken, and

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Speaker 1: that's just I mean, that's not being I love this place.

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Speaker 1: There's I would argue, there's very few people who love

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Speaker 1: it as much as I do. So I'm not being

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Speaker 1: critical Shot or anybody. It's just reality. And that's what

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Speaker 1: the numbers tell you. And it's it is what it is,

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00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: and and it is what it is, and what it

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Speaker 1: is needs to change. So it's something else next year

544
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: in the years to come. What it is is not

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00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: good right now. Um, we'll come back plenty ahead on

546
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Speaker 1: this topic. Of course, we'll touch on some of the

547
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: highlights again from yesterday's win over the Colts. Second hour

548
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: coming up your social media questions. We're gonna keep it real.

549
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: We always do think we are keeping it real, are

550
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: we not. Oh, it's it's real, alright. Uh. And it's spectacular.

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Speaker 1: And this is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home

552
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Speaker 1: Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back Jaguars Happy

553
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: Hour on a Monday afternoon after the regular season. This

554
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Speaker 1: is the final show season, the final time j P, Shadrick,

555
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: Tony Basselli, and Pete Prisco will be together in this season. Well,

556
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: maybe we'll, you know, do a one off here or

557
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: there in the off season. I don't know. Pete's agent

558
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: is tough, Pete is top, but is going to go

559
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: up this year? Yeah, A lot of things before I

560
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: don't want to go down that path right now, Pete, please, Uh,

561
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: you know we're talking about we're talking about last segment,

562
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Speaker 1: all this stuff, right, So let's Trent Balky is the GM.

563
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Speaker 1: He's the GM, and let's say it moves forward like that.

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Speaker 1: What is the best candidate of the names that are

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Speaker 1: out there right now that would make a good fit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a good conversation, j P. Because

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Speaker 1: I think we should assume for right now that train

568
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Speaker 1: is the gym. Because he is, he's under contract, and um,

569
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: transmit around football a long time. He knows personnel, He's

570
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: been scouted a lot of different places. He's had success. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean if you look at this draft this year,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people have killed him for

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Speaker 1: it at times. But I mean I think yesterday, set

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Speaker 1: aside Trevor Lawrence, Um, you know, obviously we don't know

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Speaker 1: about et N. He talked today. Yeah, he talked day.

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Speaker 1: But whether you like picking a draft running back in

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Speaker 1: the first round or not, Pete and I are in

578
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Speaker 1: agreement here. We probably would not. But you know that's

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Speaker 1: not fair to et because he might be a great

580
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: plat Tyson Campbell is I mean, all it looks like

581
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really good player, and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good corner, and that Trent picked him. And

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00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 1: you look at Walker Little, um shaky early, but he

584
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: was also out of year. Um, it was supposed to

585
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Speaker 1: be a first rounder before he got hurt and sat

586
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Speaker 1: out for covid Um. I think you look at it

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00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: the last two weeks he progressed and you know, like,

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00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: all right, this is a guy that we feel like

589
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 1: has a chance to be a starting caliber and a

590
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: good football player on this team. He played well and

591
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: he played good. About the farm on him though, yet

592
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: he was really good yesterday. Yeah. Am I gonna bet

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00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: the farm on him two weeks? No? But I think

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Speaker 1: he's but he can be in your plans. Yeah, He's

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Speaker 1: an NFL quality left Yeah. Yeah. And and I think

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Speaker 1: it does make you have a versation what you do

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Speaker 1: with Cam Robinson. I think right now where I sit,

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Speaker 1: I probably still be leaning towards bringing him back because

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00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: you have enough holes in that offensive line. Maybe one

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Speaker 1: of them can move to guard. I mean, Walker Little

601
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Speaker 1: is a big, powerful dude. You watch him run block,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's powerful, and so maybe maybe you can

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Speaker 1: move him down to guard. I don't know. I mean

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Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. He looked like a natural left tackle.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm not saying you're gonna move him to guard,

606
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Speaker 1: but you know, you still don't know what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do at the right tackle With Joan Taylor, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's yesterday he looked better too. He's in his fourth year.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe he brings him back. You know, he

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Speaker 1: said plainly today, by the way, he's not a guard.

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Speaker 1: He's no, I don't think he is. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he has a guard if you look at him of

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Speaker 1: his how his body type and everything else. Um, you know,

614
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: so it makes you gives you some optionality. Now you

615
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: have to think about Cam Robinson when you do there. Um,

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Speaker 1: but that so that was his draft pick, Cisco. I

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Speaker 1: think the last two weeks. I don't know why it

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Speaker 1: took him so long to get him on the field.

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Speaker 1: But you know, did some now stings ball hawking running around.

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Speaker 1: You know, that look good. So, I mean it's hard

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Speaker 1: to say about the uh the young defensive end outside

622
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Speaker 1: pass rusher. I can't think of his name right now.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Smith didn't play, had a couple of plays, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: fell all is someone I have not been overly. I

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00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: think he gets pushed around too much. Uh. Questions about

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Speaker 1: that one, But that's a mid round draft pick. So

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Speaker 1: my point is saying, let's assume Pete the Trent staying here.

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Speaker 1: If you're Trent Balky and Shot Khan and we're assuming

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Speaker 1: that the two of them are doing the interviews together,

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Speaker 1: what kind of head coach are you looking for? Peepersco

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Speaker 1: assuming as both report the Shot a guy who's been

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Speaker 1: a head coach before. Okay, of those guys, give me

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Speaker 1: your list. Caldwell and Peterson probably would lead that group. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about Todd Bowls? I think Todd

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Speaker 1: Bowls could be good. That'd be a good choice too.

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Speaker 1: I like Todd Bowles. I like to had a chance

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Speaker 1: with the Jet. I don't think he had a chance

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Speaker 1: with the Jets, So another opportunity for him would be good.

639
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 1: And if you've been around Todd and you have, uh,

640
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: Todd gets it. He's not going to play the games

641
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: and the players will respect them, but respect him. He's

642
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: very very smart, very very organized. Um, what would be

643
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: your biggest question mark around Todd Bowls? And what would

644
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: you want to ask him if you were interviewing him,

645
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: Who's what it kind of often you gonna runner, who's

646
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: your coordinator? I think that's the That's the one thing

647
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: that could either put him higher on the list or

648
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: drop him down the list. I mean, if if you

649
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: were Todd Bowls and you could get Bill O'Brien as

650
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator, that would be a good parent. Yeah.

651
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: I think Bill O'Brien's a good offensive coach, I really do.

652
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not so sure he's not a bad football coach.

653
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: I just don't think he can have control because we

654
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: saw what he did with control it when it went awry.

655
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: Here's my problem with Bill O'Brien and Trent Balky. They

656
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't They would clash. That's there. You're gonna get back

657
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: to the same old, same old. They're gonna clash. I

658
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: don't think that could work. Jim called Well could work

659
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: with Trent Balky because he's that kind of guy. The

660
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: problem is with Trent Balky take advantage of that, you

661
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Because Jim called Well is a

662
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: really nice guy. So when Trent Balky take advantage of that,

663
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't I think you have to. And Doug Peterson

664
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: is interesting I mean, he's got skins on the wall.

665
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: He wanted super all and he'd be good for the quarterback.

666
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: He's a former NFL quarterback. He'd be good for the quarterback.

667
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: But I think of those guys, that's the coaches that

668
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: have you know, Josh Mdaniels isn't coming. They haven't even talked,

669
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: they even put his name out there. What about what

670
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: about the um the non head coaches? How would you

671
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: rank the I'll just name you three guys that have

672
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: been coordinated Hackett left, which and more I don't I think. Look,

673
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm big on Byron. I think he's gonna be a coach.

674
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: I think that the whole thing of coming back to

675
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: Jacksonville being the coach might be a problem. I meane

676
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: Biman had a bad experience in Jacksonville. The fans didn't

677
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: like him, he didn't like it. That might be a problem.

678
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: He'll be a head coach. He should be a head coach.

679
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a good fit. Kellen Moore,

680
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's ready yet. We're rushing that one

681
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: a little bit. And the other one, who's the third

682
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: one you asked me about? Hack for him? Yeah, I

683
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: think Nate hack and I've talked to Rogers about Nate Hackett,

684
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: and he loves him. He loves Aaron Rodgers loves Nate Hackett.

685
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Is Nate Hackett ready A and B. He had a

686
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: bad experience in Jacksonville. They fired him, they made an

687
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: escape goat well fed. Yeah, so I think in the

688
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: middle of eighteen when that happened, I think we're aligned

689
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: on you know, kind of Todd Bowles called well I'd

690
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: wonder about I'd wonder about codwall staff, Like, who would

691
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: he be Jim calledwell being. I mean, I have the

692
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: utmost respect for him, what he's done, who he is

693
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: as a man, as a leader. I think he'd command

694
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: respect in the locker room. I think he'd be good

695
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: for the building. I'd worry. I'd wonder about who his

696
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: staff would be, Like, who's like because he's been out,

697
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: he's been out a little bit, Pete right, And and

698
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. He's also sixty six. I mean

699
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: that's he's not a kid. I mean, that's not that

700
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: you can get five years out of him. But again,

701
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: it's not a kid. Here's a guy that's nobody's men

702
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: sitting Leslie Frazier I'll give you another one whehe Morris.

703
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: I think Raheem will be much much better the second

704
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: time around. And I think where he would be the

705
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: first one to tell you that. I don't think Raheem

706
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: was ready when he got it the first He just

707
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: wasn't mature enough. He's matured. He's a good coach. I

708
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: think he'd be a good huger. Yeah, and as you

709
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: look at the and I'll be quick j because I

710
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: know we're up against it. If you look at the

711
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: three guys you talked about Pete that we're not head

712
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: coaches that agree with you him more. I don't think

713
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: he's ready. I do worry about left which coming like

714
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: Pete does coming back here. I really like Byron. I

715
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: think when a Byron's strength would be a standing in

716
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: front of the fifty three guys, I think he would

717
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: command the respect. Um. I've heard good things about him.

718
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: I just think like he's still he's only been a

719
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: coordinator and or one guy, Bruce arians He's never been

720
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: anywhere else. He's only been in that seat a few

721
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: years as the real coordinator. So he's still a young coach.

722
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: I think there's some maturing And my question would be

723
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: not that whether Bryan would be will be a good

724
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: head coach in this league or not, is him maturing

725
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: to becoming that person? Best to be done here in

726
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: Jacksonville with the history and not just the history of

727
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: his but where we are as a franchise right now.

728
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: That's a lot to ask, and that the Nathaniel Hackett.

729
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: I think Nathaniel Hackett did one of the greatest coaching

730
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: jobs as an offensive coordinator ever to get what he'd

731
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: got out of the Jacksonville Jaguars with Blake Portless the quarterback.

732
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was outstanding, and I thought he got

733
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: absolutely done wrong in eighteen getting fired the way he did.

734
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: My question with Dathaniel Hackett, and this is what you'd

735
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: have to have long conversations. You'd have to really get

736
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: comfortable as a as an owner and as a as

737
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: as an organization. Can you picture Nathaniel Hackett stand in

738
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: front of the entire team and commanding the respect of

739
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: the entire organization of those fifty three guys. Pete brings

740
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: up a great point. If you can do it with

741
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, that's saying something right there all by itself.

742
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: So I think Nathaniel, I think Nathaniel Hacketts a real,

743
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: real candidate, and they're gonna interview him, and I think

744
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see where that goes. Were

745
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: quick JP rich Besaccia is the interim coach of the Raiders.

746
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: He's been around this league forever and everyone they love him,

747
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: and he says and he can have a hammer man.

748
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: He can be tough on his guy. He'll call him out.

749
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: But he's not a play caller. He's not a good

750
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: He's just an overseer and he's involved. But he didn't

751
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: called the defense, and you don't call the offense. Sometimes

752
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: out there you can. John Harball was one of those guys.

753
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: You can find a guy who could just lead the

754
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: whole thing and not necessarily be an x as an

755
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: those guy from a good offense or a good defense.

756
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: That's what you have to find. And I think there's

757
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: there and they haven't even gotten any of that route yet.

758
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: These are all been ex coaches and coordinators so far.

759
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: We'll come back in a moment after order finalize the

760
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: top six team, at least after the regular season is done.

761
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: The Jaguars land at the top spoiler winn win, a winner, winner,

762
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: and a number one overall pick yesterday. Pretty good day

763
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: at the office. Second hour coming up just a little

764
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: bit as well. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet

765
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back Jaguars

766
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Monday. After the regular season, j P Shadrick

767
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: Tony was Elly Pete Prisco the final time for campaign.

768
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: Now it's onto the off season and everything that brings.

769
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: Coaching search is under way and soon the NFL Draft

770
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: right around the corner. Yes, the Jaguars have the number

771
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: one overall pick for the second year in a row.

772
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: The top sixteen in fact finalized. Yes today, Jaguars. The

773
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: Lions gotta win, so they finished three thirteen and one.

774
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: The Texans will pick third, Jets, fourth, Giants five with

775
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: their own picks Panthers six, Giants get, the Bears pick

776
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: at seven, Falcons at eight, Broncos at nine, Jets are

777
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: at number ten. Do you have it in the top ten?

778
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: So the New York teams picking twice in the top ten,

779
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars right there at the top. Again, here

780
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: we go. Draft talk commences. Pete. Who you picking number one?

781
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: You're the GM You know what? I went back and

782
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: watched more Hutchinson tape. I'm taking Hutchinson over there, over

783
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: the organ kid. Yeah, he's a better player here. Here's

784
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: the thing when I like, somebody said to me, they

785
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: go is Penn State tape wasn't great. So I went

786
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: back and watched it. At three sacks in the game,

787
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: they chipped them and did every the running backs got

788
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: on them in the tight and chipped the one every play.

789
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: They ran away from him almost the entire game, and

790
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: they got the ball out of the quarterback's hands quickly.

791
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: He's still had three sacks. He's a disruptor. He's a

792
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: place hard, his hands ring. You know the guys with

793
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: the hands, the boases, those guys that know how to

794
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: use their hands, and they look like when they got

795
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: to the NFL, they look like pros already. He's one

796
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: of those guys. He's got the great get the hands

797
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: off me as he's rushed in the passer and and

798
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: he's a big I think he's gonna get bigger. I

799
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: don't think he's not a thick kid yet. He's watching

800
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: him against Georgia whichever one killed him. Yeah, he got

801
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: the left tackle was laying on top of him a

802
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: couple of times. I mean, I mean, the left tackle

803
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: is gonna be in starting tackle on the league, by

804
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: the way, just to tell you. And he wasn't. He

805
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: wasn't bad, he wasn't but he just didn't get I mean,

806
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: Georgia has dominated that game overall. Did you watch the

807
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: Michigan State game, Michigan Michigan steak. I haven't watched that one.

808
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Check that one out because he only had like three tackles.

809
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: He did have a sack in the game, but they

810
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: ran a ball a bunch. That was the day that

811
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: the running back for State had five touchdown Mike Mike

812
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: going considered with him. I've watched very little, no tape,

813
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: just like watching him live so in highlights. So I'm

814
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: the wrong person, Like I don't even know who I

815
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: picked right now. I'ven't watched I haven't watched one college tape,

816
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: but watch him on TV. He looks really lean, like

817
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: he look very strong, big, but he's but he is

818
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: strong though. That's the thing. He's lean and strong because

819
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: he can bull rush guys, two big guys he can

820
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: bull rush him. He's strong. I mean, that's the thing.

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00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the same way when I watched him on TV.

822
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, he's lean, he needs to put on

823
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: about twenty pounds, but when you're watching, he plays strong.

824
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: He's a strong kid, Tony. Why do you sour on

825
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: the Gorgon kid, Pete? I haven't. I haven't soured on him.

826
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: I just this kid plays tough and hard every ay

827
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: and he you know what I love when a guy

828
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: chases down run plays from the backside. You know that

829
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: tells you that he cares. I mean he I mean,

830
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking across the way. He chases him down, and

831
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't think the Oregon kid does that, Pete, where

832
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: do you rank the receiver's coming out? H the kid,

833
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: the kid here to see the night's the best receiver

834
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: by watched a little bit of Ohio State, but I've

835
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: I've watched the number of al Pamma games. The kid

836
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: could just fly. What does he run? What's he gonna run?

837
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: Like four three? I don't think he's that. I don't

838
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: think he's the burner. He's game fast. Yeah, he's game

839
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: fast because he can catch it and all of a

840
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: sudden he can outrun everybody, Like whoa, Yeah, like the kid,

841
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: the other kid that's the other top receiver, the other

842
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Wilson from Ohio State. He's not a burner on the

843
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: on the clock either, but they play fast. Yeah, he's

844
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: the one that that's the one I would day because

845
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: he's the guy. Every time he touches the ball you

846
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: have to hold your breath. But you're not. You're not

847
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: taking him number one overall. No, I take. I take

848
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: either Hutchinsond, Thibodeau or Neil. That's my pick. If I'm

849
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: stuck at one, Neil the left. But I think Little's

850
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: play the last two weeks gives me some options now,

851
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: not being forced to take in a Neil. There you

852
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: have it, um, So we'll come back. Second hour of

853
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy All right around the corner. We'll recap the

854
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: game again yesterday. We'll keep it real. We haven't done

855
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: that yet, Yes we have. We'll do it again for real.

856
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: Coming up. Your social questions will go around the league

857
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: as well. The Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home

858
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. I don't know. I

859
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: have to look back and really think about the biggest

860
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: thing I've learned. I think for me, um, learning how

861
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: to really be resilient and tough times and to keep

862
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: being the same person and try to keep that confidence

863
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: weekend or week out. You know, it's a seven team

864
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: game season, and just because you have a bad first

865
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: game or a bad seventh game, you still have so

866
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: many games left and you've gotta you've gotta come ready

867
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: to play each week and regardless of you know, we

868
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: obviously we didn't win a lot of games this year,

869
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: but there's so many games we could have winn and

870
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: we could have won, and we have enough talent, and

871
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: every team has enough talent, and it's really about execution.

872
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: It's about being ready, everybody on the same page. And

873
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing I've learned is college

874
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: it's it's it's more about talent. Obviously, towards the end

875
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: of the season you look at the National Champonship playoffs,

876
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: all those talent is kind of equated. But here every

877
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: game is pretty even. You know, any any team can

878
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: win any given Sunday, And knowing that, I think that's

879
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: something valuable that I've learned. Trevor Lawrence after the game

880
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: yesterday and welcome back. It's the second hour of Jaguars

881
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: Happy Hour on a Monday. After the regular season j

882
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: P Shadrick, Tony Busselli, Pete Prisco. The Jaguars snapped an

883
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: eight game losing skid yesterday eleven. The final score they

884
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: scored on the opening drive hit a bunch of field

885
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: goals moved the ball certainly in the first half. The

886
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: Jags defense got going in the second half with a

887
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: couple of takeaways, a fumble off Carson Wentz, an interception

888
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: off Wins as well. We mentioned Lawrence he had one

889
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: of the best days of his rookie campaign on the

890
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: final day of his rookie season. The Jaguars secured the

891
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: number one overall pick even though they won Detroit one

892
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: over the Packers, So the Jags are picking number one

893
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: overall for the second year in a row. Coaching interviews continue.

894
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: All the reports of more interviews coming up this week,

895
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: and we've arrived at the off season. Tony, you look

896
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: very excited about excited. You're never excited when you go,

897
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: you know, three and fourteen and have the season we did.

898
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: Um much might be much more excited about if we're

899
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: playing in the if we're in the playoffs right now,

900
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: that'd be fun. I'm excited. I gotta go do playoff games.

901
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: I'll be uh doing Dallas San Francisco this weekend. That

902
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: would be fun. Um um. It was Spirodidas right. Yep,

903
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm not so. I'm not excited about like how this

904
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: season went and that it's the off season. That's I'm

905
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: very interested and where this goes, though. I'm interesting the

906
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: next head coaches. I'm interested to see what Sean decides

907
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: to do. I'm interested to see how this organization evolves

908
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: on the football side. Interesting thing. Are we gonna do

909
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: something different or we're gonna do the same old same. Oh,

910
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm interested, curious. I'm tired of losing. I'm tired of

911
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: of having these conversations every year. It feels like outside

912
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: of one in the last decade plus, because for even

913
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: before Shot became owner, it was similar. It's in your

914
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: point earlier. Everybody wants an answer now like today. Yeah,

915
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: it's not you're not gonna get it. That's not gonna work,

916
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: that's not gonna that's not how it's gonna happen. It's

917
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: gonna be. You gotta be patient. Tony was right, you

918
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: gotta be patient. Get the right guy, not the first guy.

919
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: It's the right guy. Hey, real quick, did you You

920
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: guys watched the game last night for Pete maybe the

921
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: best and you always do this in like the moment,

922
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: but it was one of the best football games I've seen. Outstanding.

923
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: It was outstanding. But the way that kid threw the

924
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: ball around, that's what Trevor Lawrence should look like next

925
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: year when need be to sling it around too fast,

926
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: good receivers in the passing game he asked to. He

927
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: should be able to do what Herbert does. There's a

928
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: lot of similarities between it to him. Long big athletic

929
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: can really rip it. He should be doing what justin

930
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: Herbert did last night. Now, you don't want to throw

931
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: the ball sixty times a game, but I'm saying in

932
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: situations where you have to sing it around, he should

933
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: be capable of doing what Herbert did last night. That's

934
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: what he has to get to next year. And not

935
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: just on him, it's building around them. Yeah. I mean

936
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: he has some weapons and Rehiver is pretty good. UM

937
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: good back, really good back in UM as long as

938
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: we don't get the head coach who goes for it

939
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: and forth in a long one. Ah just promised. I mean,

940
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: what the hell was he? And you know these analytics

941
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: kill you know what it is? And I'm gonna sound

942
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: like an old fart here because I am. But they

943
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: grew up playing mad with their buddies. A lot of

944
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: these guys that the fans out there in the Twitter cult.

945
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: So what he goes for it? It reminds of them

946
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: when they were facing their friend and mad and football.

947
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Momentum matters in the NFL? It

948
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: really does? You know? You played Tony? There's a flow

949
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: and a field to a game. What are you doing

950
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: giving him a point? But you gave him three points?

951
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: And it could have been if here's the other thing,

952
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: if the Raiders hadn't screwed up on the first play

953
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: after they got that free free field position they ran

954
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 1: they but it was Mario? What the hell are you doing?

955
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: But you think he was? It was next time we

956
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: see only we'll give him crap about that one too.

957
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Do you think Brandon Stanley would like those three points

958
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: back that he just gave the Raiders? Yeah, he'd be

959
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: in the playoffs right now. Unbelievable. I mean, I don't,

960
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: I just don't. There's there's something to be said for

961
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: being more aggressive, maybe than what they used to be

962
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: I get it. I understand it, and analytics helped you

963
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: understand that, but don't be stupid with it gameflow. And

964
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: I thought Dean Pas last week you saw deanps when

965
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: he said he went viral for some of the things

966
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: he said, and he got crucified for it. He was right,

967
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: by the way, he was right right that game last night.

968
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: The whole thing was fascinating. The tie on the line,

969
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: like the time out the Chargers, you know, converting six

970
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: fourth downs like fourth and twenty one. I called on

971
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: then he had the third and you know, I actually

972
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: like the time out that Brandon Stanley called. Everyone's killing him.

973
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: They were gonna run the same play, by the way,

974
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't know they were because they had different they

975
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: had different personnel in the game. No, But the my

976
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: point is, Pete, the Raiders were getting up to run

977
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: the ball, and if they got yardage and they got

978
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: a first down, they would have tried to get the

979
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: field goal. If they didn't, they would hope to let

980
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: the clock run out. And that's why they ran the

981
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: clock below forty seconds, so that they had the optionality

982
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: if they didn't get it, they could run it all

983
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: the way down or force like that word today. By

984
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: the way, optionality, like the option optionality baby, optionality is

985
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: a good thing to have in life. Beat you gotta

986
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 1: have options, you mean options? Optionality not a real word.

987
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: That's a real word. Optionality is the world. I'm looking

988
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: it up, says you know, I don't know. I don't

989
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: know if I trust this on the internet. It must

990
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: be true. Uh, the quality of being available to be chosen,

991
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: but not obligatory. Thank you. Optionality. It's a real words

992
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: on the internet. Though, maybe you should go back to

993
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: journalism school because I just schooled you the potential for options, optionality, optionality.

994
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: Come on, I don't think I've ever heard that. Well,

995
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: you should listen more. But anyways, back to back to

996
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: the time out. They were going to run the ball

997
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: and if they didn't get anything, you're right. But he

998
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: called time out because he wanted to substitute his big

999
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: package in and then he didn't. But you know he did,

1000
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: he put no he you know what he did, Tony,

1001
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: because I went back and watched it. He put an

1002
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: extra defensive lineman on the field, but instead of having

1003
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: two linebackers, he still had his nickel package on the field,

1004
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: so he had a dime safety playing linebacker, and that

1005
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: guy made a terrible play because he went the wrong way.

1006
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: You know who had a terrible play. The reason that

1007
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: run was successful Bosa got blocked by the tight end

1008
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: hadn't got him. He came in motion down the line

1009
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: blocked him and he cracked in between him. But I

1010
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: still wouldn't let him play it out. Play it out,

1011
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: give me a break. You called time out. But it

1012
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: was almost like they let him regroup in that situation,

1013
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: brought the blocking tight end onto the field. They were

1014
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: gonna Did you think they were ever considering throwing in

1015
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: that situation? No, No, I agreed that. My point I

1016
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: was going back to the fact that everyone on the

1017
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 1: internet last night was saying that the that the Raiders

1018
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: are just gonna take a knee right there on third down,

1019
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: they were gonna take a knee. They were gonna run

1020
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: the ball again. But if it was going to be

1021
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: a tie, if they but if they run the ball

1022
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: and they get ten yards like they did on the

1023
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: after the time out, they do the exact same thing

1024
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: and kicked the field ball. But they didn't have the

1025
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: run grouping in the Raiders. They didn't have the tight

1026
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: end that was the blocking tight end on the field

1027
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: in that situation, and that's the difference. Okay, I'm not

1028
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: arguing that. My point is everyone on Twitter freaking out

1029
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: thinking they were gonna take a knee. There is not

1030
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: the case. They were not taking a knee. But by

1031
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: the way, Pete's being very nice today about the Charger's

1032
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: head coach. Last night on Twitter, it was like, hey, people,

1033
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 1: just like his answers, like what is going on here?

1034
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: I called him a moron because it was a more

1035
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: on decision. It's a more on decision to go for

1036
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: it in your own end was on the eighteen yard line.

1037
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: That's a more on decision. I mean. And then what

1038
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: do you I mean, how could you possibly think that's

1039
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: a good decision. Now, the game got loose, So in

1040
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: a loose game like in the third the fourth quarter,

1041
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: maybe you do that, But at that moment, the game

1042
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: wasn't loose at all. They had the momentum. What was

1043
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: the score at that point seventeen? What was it fourteen? Ten? Right? No,

1044
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: when they were down it was seven. Okay, the game

1045
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,959
Speaker 1: is not loose. You gotta play that game. You gotta

1046
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: conventionally pump the damn ball. Carlson at the thirty one

1047
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: yard and it was my original point about the quarterback.

1048
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence should be that next year. So the question becomes,

1049
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: how do you get him to that? The Chargers, Tony

1050
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: made a good point. Echoes a damn good back. The

1051
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: left side in the center of their line is good.

1052
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: The right side is awful, and they have injuries there,

1053
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: but they're awful. Right now? Do they have a tight

1054
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: end that scares you? Cooks? Okay, No, he's a big

1055
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: he's a big he's a big body. Pete. That's a

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00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: matchup issue. You saw that in Keith third downs and

1057
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: fourth downs yesterday. But he's getting but he's getting up

1058
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: in the years. And Okay. The wide receivers Keenan Allen's

1059
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: really good. Mike Williams. Mike Williams is unrestricted free agent.

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00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: Would you pay him? How much you gotta pay him? Oh,

1061
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid. You're gonna get him Galla day money.

1062
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: Probably what did they get thirteen a year? Yeah? I

1063
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: pay him that probably to come to He doesn't run

1064
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: as well as you think he runs. No, but he's

1065
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: a dang good receiver. Well you're Jacksonville, you would you

1066
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: would you would pay. I would, I would kick the

1067
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: tires for sure. You have to get receivers here, I know. Okay,

1068
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: so you pay Mike Williams the draft, you get one

1069
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: in the draft, and it's a good receiver draft by

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00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, I mean because if you look at

1071
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: um like like everyone talks about, you need that burner.

1072
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: Who's the burners on the Los Angeles Chargers? Keenan Allen

1073
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: doesn't run, No, Mike Williams isn't burner. No, they don't

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00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: have a burner guiding isn't a burner, big receiver Jacksonville,

1075
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: He couldn't. He couldn't remember the place that that's their burner. Yeah, yeah,

1076
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: Palmer is not a burner. Point, they're all but they're

1077
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: all big guys and good route runs. Right. Hey, we'll

1078
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: come back in a moment. We're gonna keep it real.

1079
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 1: Have we not been doing that? No, okay, we're gonna

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00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: do it. I got my case this week in the mail.

1081
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: You did I got to Yeah you didn't. You didn't

1082
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: get yours yet. I got two cases, fucking I got

1083
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: left up. Yeah I must have got JP's. You must have.

1084
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: He's looking around like serious, Wait a minute, I got

1085
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: a red. I got a red and a white. Wow,

1086
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: what a deal. JP's like they left me out. I

1087
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: got an empty glass is all I got. Jaguars Game

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00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,120
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Speaker 1: Do Good, Bank Better. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the

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00:59:50,760 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: ten ten x our home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I

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01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: just feel like as a now hobby right if a

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01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: training camp out rade though, and the next mouster for

1094
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: me is to give that doing weightlifting, a limpid weightlifting

1095
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: by splats, stuff like that, having really good sporting because

1096
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: it is a list foring injury and now it's on

1097
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: the bottom with a foot. So the next step is

1098
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: getting back to doing those squats, get in my lags

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01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: back right and uh get back to school speed running

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Speaker 1: and hopefully uh, I look forward to being a training

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01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: camp and just being back to myself. That is Travis E.

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Speaker 1: T N speaking with the media today, first time we've

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01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: heard from him since the preseason, and welcome back. It's

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01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: Jaguar's Happy Our j P. Shadrick with Pete Prisco and

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01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 1: Tony Busselli and it's time now for Keeping It Real

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01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Opened up a winner today,

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01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: Real Ingredients Award winning Wine by Robert Mundavi. Bob, I'm waiting.

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Speaker 1: I like to thank Bob. Here's the question today. Yeah,

1109
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys are enjoying it. What's the best

1110
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: thing to come out of this season for the Jaguars?

1111
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: It's over the first round? The first it's overall bick quarterbacks,

1112
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: healthy quarterbacks health. I could argue that urban Meyer's gone.

1113
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: That's the best thing. I mean, I mean, because it was.

1114
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: It was chaotic here, but it was dysfunctional. Could you

1115
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: imagine could you imagine what what this team went through

1116
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: and the organization went through going into another year knowing

1117
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: that that's what you're facing. No, you're right, that's the

1118
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: best thing. That's the best thing so to come out

1119
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Speaker 1: of this year. He found out what he was early. Yeah,

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01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: you got realized it. He could, like you know, it

1121
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: was like a term sometimes in like in startup world

1122
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: of business, like fail fast, like figure out what doesn't

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01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: work so you can make the correction instead of investing

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01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of capital that you have limited resources of,

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01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean limited amount of and fail fast like move

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01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: on to the next thing, figure it out, um. And

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01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm thankful that we figured it out quickly who he

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01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: really was, and that he was a little bit of

1129
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: a it's fraud to pick up a word to use,

1130
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: because he nked a lot about accountable. He talked a

1131
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: lot about of accountability and family and and owning it.

1132
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: And I didn't see any of that from him. Um,

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01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: we found out early. And I'm thankful that Shod who

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01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: who took a big swing in the last offseason and

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01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: and made a big statement and made statements how he

1136
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: felt like he got it right this time and now

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01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: everything else. And I'm thankful that shot Khan is not

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01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: too proud to not to be able to admit a

1139
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: mistake and say, you know what, I'm not dealing with

1140
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: this anymore. I mean, that's good leadership, and I know

1141
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: that you can get on from getting it wrong. That's fine.

1142
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: Worse than getting it wrong is not admitting that it

1143
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: was wrong and hang on. And we've seen that in

1144
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: this organization in the past, not from Shod but from others.

1145
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: I'll leave nameless of hanging on to this decisions that

1146
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: end up costing this organization in the long run. So

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01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: the fact that he made that decision so quickly, Pete,

1148
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: I think is really important. And if urban didn't go

1149
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville last year, let's just say he didn't and

1150
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: he decided this year, I'm in play. I want an

1151
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: NFL team to hire me. They'd be fighting for him,

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01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: the teams if he if he had not experienced Jacksonville

1153
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: and he came out of retirement, there'll be a lot

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01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: of teams fighting for him. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't

1155
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: think he. I don't think Sean would would be alone,

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01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: is your point? No, of course not because he fooled

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01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of people. He fooled people. Well, I don't

1158
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: think he can fool anyone any longer because I think

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01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious. You know what his uh m O was? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, when you recruit the best players, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: win a lot of games in college football. He can't

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01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: do that. Well, he's a great recruiter, there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: about that. How, I don't know how, Seriously, I do

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01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: not know how. If he came If I was a

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01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: seventeen year old kid and that guy came into my

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01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: living room, I would smell out the bs from from

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Speaker 1: the minute he walked in the door. Beat beat, you

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01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: are so full of it. You would be going to

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Speaker 1: Ohio State like that? What are you talking about? The

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Speaker 1: only way I'd be going to ohiose days they paid

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Speaker 1: me more than what Alabama pay. Wow, but well beating

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Speaker 1: then you'd be one of the few because he's so

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01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: he has sold a lot of people over his lifetime. Okay, Tony,

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01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: you were recruited, would you listen to his crap? I

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01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: think as an eighteen year old kid, And actually I

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01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: was seventeen when I was getting recruited. I mean when

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Speaker 1: I signed my letter and ten, I was seventeen years old.

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01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: And if urban Meyer came to me and selling me

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01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: like in his smooth talking and family and this and

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Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do and ppionship rings in

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01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: like championship rings, Yeah, Pete, I would have fallen for

1182
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: it Instead. The USC I did not. I was not

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01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: a big recruit. I got paid. I could honestly say

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01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: for Colorado USC where I can honestly say, I could

1185
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: honestly say, giving you know my word. I did not

1186
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: get any money from the University of Southern California or

1187
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: anyone associated with the University of Southern California, any booster, coach,

1188
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: anything else to go to the us UH to USC.

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Speaker 1: Never got anything from them to go to that school.

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01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: That means that means you short change yourself everybody. I wasn't.

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01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big recruit. I was like, I was

1192
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Speaker 1: like the middle of the road guy fighting for a spot.

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01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: Where were you other options? By the way, So I

1194
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: got I got asked to walk on by a couple

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Speaker 1: of places. Um My five trips you know back then,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think it's the same thing. You can

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Speaker 1: pick five schools YouTube official visits to it was you

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Speaker 1: sc UH University of Colorado because I lived in Boulder.

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Speaker 1: They were good national championship champions. Arizona State was a

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01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: trip PiZZ ala. No, I got nothing from them. I

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Speaker 1: ended up canceling the visit though, Pete, because it was

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Speaker 1: right after USC, and I went on campus at USC

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01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not going to a state there's

1204
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Speaker 1: no chance. Um, so you didn't even go. No, I

1205
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: never showed up, um Michigan State. Really Yeah, he's lnsome. Yeah,

1206
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: you remember that. My senior year was the year that

1207
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: Tony Manager came out, So it was like offensive line

1208
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: big and then Stanford was my last one. You had

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01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: got into Stanford and he didn't get the grades to

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Speaker 1: go to Yeah. I was gonna say, you know who

1211
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: recruited me out of Stanford Pete Bill Wallace. No, uh,

1212
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: Denny Green was dead coach at the time. No, but

1213
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: you know who, but what position coach actually recruited me?

1214
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: Came to my house, home, visit, met with my parents everything. Oh,

1215
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: Brian Billick he was the wide receiver coach. Denny Green

1216
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: staff wown. So then you took the money in went

1217
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: the USC. I never got paid anything, and trust me,

1218
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: none of them were paying me anything. But when when

1219
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: you had recruiting visits did no So no head coach

1220
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: ever came to your house. Bill McCartney did, well, I

1221
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: was down the block. I'm trying to think. I think

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01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: Denny Green would have. I believe Larry Smith did. He

1223
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: was the USC coach. Uh Perlist did not from Michigan State.

1224
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: I think he would have. I I um so I

1225
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: took visits to my first visit in December, like early

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01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: December when you start visits was Michigan State. The next

1227
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Speaker 1: visit was to um Colorado, and then before Christmas, I

1228
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: went to UH early in December, I went right to

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01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 1: USC and so like the home visit started like in

1230
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: that fall and so like, it didn't end until February.

1231
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: And I committed before I ever went on a visit

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: to Stanford or Arizona State. UM, I committed on my

1233
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: trip to USC. I walked in that place and I

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01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 1: just I'm literally I showed up. It took me on campus.

1235
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: I walked into the heritage Hall, saw the Heisman trophy,

1236
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: saw the history, went and met with the head coach,

1237
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: Larry Smith, and he says, hey, I went offer you

1238
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: a scholarship, and I said, Coach, I'll take it. So

1239
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: so his so he didn't need to sell you on anything.

1240
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: So you didn't go there for Larry Smith. You went

1241
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: there for USC. I went there for USC, right, So

1242
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. When Urban was first starting out

1243
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: like a Florida, they weren't, I mean, they had the

1244
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: spurior years. But that's I just I don't know, maybe

1245
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm cynical, but about where one family where like, no,

1246
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: you're not, You're gonna use and abuse me just like

1247
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: you use it. He was every other kid that comes

1248
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: through here for your benefit. I know what it is.

1249
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: I know the game. Just tell me I was gonna

1250
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: play for national championships? Were I gonna be given a

1251
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: chance to be as a starter and a contributor on

1252
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: a regular basis? And can you get me to the league.

1253
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: That's all I want to know. Yeah, So, Pete, when

1254
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: I was at age, I was like, I wasn't a

1255
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: huge recruit, and I you know, back they remember not

1256
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: very many teams were on TV either college footballs and

1257
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: so like USC, like rose Ball and like like seeing them.

1258
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: I just I remember like it was like them in

1259
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I was at all and Notre Dame said

1260
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: they didn't want me. Like those two schools are like

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Speaker 1: the two schools. I was like, oh my gosh, I

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Speaker 1: get it because like when I first went my first

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01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: year at a s U, they played USC, and I

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01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: remember standing I was eight seven years old. I remember

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01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 1: watching him come out of the tunnel. I'm like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, that's uscros And like Michigan State was a

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01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: great visit. I loved it. That was my I loved

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01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: East Lansing and I loved that place. But if I

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01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: went to see when that when Larry Smith looked at

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Speaker 1: me and says, we're offering you a scholarship. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm in. I went home to the hotel. I went

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Speaker 1: back to the hotel that night and I called my

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01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: dad and I said, Dad, I committed to USC. He says,

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01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: you did what You're supposed to go to Stanford next week.

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Speaker 1: I go, Dad, I'm not going to Stanford. I'm going

1276
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: to US. Then you whispered in the phone. You said, yeah,

1277
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: you should see the envelope. It's not true, not true

1278
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: to your point about urban. I didn't buy his stuff.

1279
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm forty nine years old now, and I've been around

1280
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: the block. You've been around the block. You've seen too much.

1281
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: That's why you never bought it this time. But I

1282
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: was I was a seventeen year old cynic. I didn't care.

1283
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: I didn't believe anybody's crap, never have except for your

1284
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: own right. Like I said, in the world, Hey, the

1285
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: people in the world are and the other one percent

1286
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: have to prove they're not. At least Tony, you know,

1287
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 1: contributed a Freedom Bowl trophy and a Cotton Bowl trophy

1288
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: to that trophy room. And at Southern Cow yea. You know,

1289
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: the team were very good. My senior year, we were good.

1290
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: We blew it. Rob Johnson got hurt. We lost the

1291
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: Oregon He remember Pete he played half of the Cotton Bowl.

1292
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: They put him in the Cotton Bowl. Hold he played

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01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: one half. We were by the end of the By

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01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: the end of the season, we were the best. I

1295
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: mean we had a young team besides, I mean Keishan

1296
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: Show had just shown up j C transfer. By the

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01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: end of the year, no one wanted. I mean we

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01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: beat Texas Tech in the Cotton Ball to ten. I

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01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: mean we were rolling. But yes, yeah, sorry. Um. The

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01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 1: biggest were, like my biggest regret, not regret, disappointment in

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01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: college football, and one of them in football overall is

1302
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: we had first and goal from the three yard line,

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01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the four against U c l A my

1304
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: junior year. If we score a touchdown, we go to

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01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl and we got stuffed and through a pick,

1306
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: got stuffed on first down, stuffed on second down, through

1307
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: a pick on third down, and lost the game. Who

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01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: would you have played in the Rose Bowl? Wisconsin? Oh?

1309
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: The managers? What year was that? Nineteen three? Was that

1310
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: was that Ron Dane? No, that might have been a

1311
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: Darryl Bubble game. May it might have been Darryl B. Bebble.

1312
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: You know who was on the team that we would

1313
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: have played. What was the defensive linemen we drafted at

1314
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: the sixth round out of Wisconsin that year. Mike Thompson.

1315
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: Mike Thompson, he was on that Wisconsin team. Thomson ten

1316
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: one and one Wisconsin was And yeah, they beat U. C.

1317
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 1: L A in the Rose Bowl. Who were the backs

1318
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: on that team? Yeah, Daryl Bevil was the quarterback there team.

1319
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah? First in goal? Why why did

1320
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 1: they run behind you? We ran twice and then we

1321
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: got stuffed. Did you get blown up? No? I mean

1322
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: I didn't, But I didn't dominate. I was. It was

1323
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: my second game back after dislocating my kneecap. I missed

1324
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: five games that year. And I mean I I think

1325
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: I stalemated the guy. I mean I didn't dominate him

1326
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: by any means um. But we got stuff that by

1327
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: the way, it was Keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge

1328
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: by Robert bon Davie opened up a winner today, really

1329
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: ingred against award winning wine by Robert Bundavi. I hope

1330
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: you guys are enjoying it. What's in that cup? Tony?

1331
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want to speak to that were

1332
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: on the air, Okay, marinate on that. We're back in

1333
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: a moment. Social media questions. Happy New Year, Tony, thank you. YouTube.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguar's Happy Hour on the jag Wars Digital Network.

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01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Guess Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco,

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01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: Tony Vaselly the final show of the season. Pete, I

1337
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 1: know you're doing, uh, you're doing playoff games. You're in studio.

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01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: What are you doing studio? Thankfully? You know for me

1339
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 1: to go to playoff games and there's not really any

1340
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: access like it used to be. It's it's almost defeats

1341
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: the purpose. That's a good point, Tony. You're you're doing

1342
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: the first round for sure. We knew that. I'm doing

1343
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: all through. I'm doing Uh. I'm in um Dallas for

1344
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: the wild Supercard Wild. It's the Super wild Card weekend.

1345
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: You might want to get that right wild. It's gonna

1346
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: get wild and ballast. You might be heading somewhere else.

1347
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: There plenty of places in Dallas to celebrate that. I

1348
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 1: think it's super a wild Card sorry sorry, Super wild

1349
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: Card weekend, UM and then Division. Oh I'm hoping. I've requested,

1350
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: but I won't know until after the games this weekend.

1351
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to go to Nashville because it's easy close.

1352
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: And then it looks like I will most likely be

1353
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: in the n f C city for the UH Conference Championships,

1354
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: which will probably be green Back. Okay, I might go

1355
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: out in the championship game. It depends on what the

1356
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: restrictions are. Well, if you do come to Green Bay,

1357
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: pete with me. We'll hang out. I've been there. I

1358
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,759
Speaker 1: was there when Coughlin beat the Packers in the freezing

1359
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: cold game. It was the cold Goldens I've ever been

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01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: in my life. Come out. You should come and we'll

1361
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: go get a big stake. Tonight before tell us, we'll

1362
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:57,839
Speaker 1: tell lies are you Are you going to the Super Bowl? Um,

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01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: I'm not working in the Super Bowl this year, so

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01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: I will only be at the Super Bowl if the

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01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame comes calling. They're gonna vote on that

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01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl. That's why I just said I

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01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: only go if that. Let's watch it on television. I'll

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: be watching it at home. Yeah. I don't wanna my

1369
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: my days as a sideline reporter are over. So I

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01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: retired from sideline, why you don't like doing it? I

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: don't enjoy it. They like what you like. I just

1372
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 1: don't enjoy it. It's like, but it's a long day,

1373
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: my back hurts. I'm like, I just don't enjoy it.

1374
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: And I told him this year, I'm like, I don't

1375
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: want to do it, So I'm not fair enough. Well,

1376
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Pete, at some point you gotta get in

1377
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: life and do what you enjoy doing. And that's not

1378
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 1: something you want to you'd like being in the booth.

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01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: I like the booth and the championship game. You're gonna

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01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: be in the booth for one of the championship games? Yeah,

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01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: I have the last the five years, four years, whoever

1382
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: it is, six years, whatever it is? Um, who who

1383
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: do you worked at last weekend with either Iron or

1384
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Harlan, depends where they put them. Yeah, Kurt will

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01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: be in one booth. I'll be in the other booth,

1386
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,560
Speaker 1: and Kurt will do the Super Bowl Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner. Um,

1387
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: seeing that he played in several I never did, so

1388
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: probably we'll never call a Super Bowl game from the

1389
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 1: booth because I never played in one. Well, there you

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01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: have it, and you wouldn't have played in one I've

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01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: had they made it ninety nine either, I would so, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know a funny story about that. Pete, um, My

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01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: my son had COVID. One of my kids had COVID,

1394
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 1: and so he's quarantined. So he went back and started

1395
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: watching old jaguarging. He's he My boys are the biggest

1396
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: Jaguar fans, both Andrew and Adam, my two boys, I

1397
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: mean love, live and die Jaguars. And my second son,

1398
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: Adam went back and watched old playoff games from the

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01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: ninety six and old games and he'd be like calling me.

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01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I might go away. He's like, Dad,

1401
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: I was watching, like describing play son. I was there.

1402
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 1: And Pete, he went through the AMC Championship game in

1403
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: ninety six and he was like distraught that we lost

1404
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: the game. He was, I can't believe you lost, stupid

1405
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: special teams play blah blah, and it was I just

1406
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: made me laugh, brought back sat because we didn't make it.

1407
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: See you, I can still see you try to chase

1408
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: down after the fumble and I can still see it

1409
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: like it's yesterday. Yeah, and Brunell's interception was terrible because

1410
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy ran the wrong route. I told on Jimmy, I

1411
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: told on you it was He tried to tell me

1412
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't him, it was him. Well, you know what,

1413
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: it's all spilt milk and you can't do anything about it. Now,

1414
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 1: what's gotta move on. That's right, We're moving on to

1415
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 1: social media questions we've got. We put out the bad

1416
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: signal of course earlier on Monday. Here's the best we

1417
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: come up with for the final show number one today

1418
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: at g MAC four five six seven. After seeing Walker

1419
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: little improved over the last two weeks, is it enough

1420
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 1: for you to make him the starting left tackle next year?

1421
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: Or would you still bring Cam Robinson back this offseason?

1422
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: Um noted left tackle? Would you like to answer this question? Um?

1423
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,879
Speaker 1: I did, I answered earlier. I I to be determined.

1424
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,839
Speaker 1: I gotta do more work. I mean it also depends,

1425
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, what's the franchise number. What are you doing

1426
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: with the rest of um the offensive line? Where the

1427
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: holes you gotta make decisions with Linder and um Norwell,

1428
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: I mean, so there's a j can I mean, there's

1429
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. Yet I don't think you make

1430
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: that in a vacuum that decision because you have five

1431
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: positions to fill um. Cam still is the best left

1432
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: tackle on this team right now as of this year.

1433
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean walk a little cancer pass them. But

1434
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: if you're just looking, who had to, you know, look

1435
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: at all the tape for the entire year. Cam's better

1436
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: right now. But I don't know if Cam had a

1437
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: game as good as Walker Little hat on Sunday. I

1438
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: haven't watched it yet, Pete, because I was he got beat.

1439
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: He got beat inside once by Buckner on a run play,

1440
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: but he got he got he got bowled by u

1441
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: Q quite time. That's all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so But

1442
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: but again, you're right, Robinson in the big picture is

1443
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: a better left tackle right now. But why not have

1444
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: both of them back? You can figure out a way

1445
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: to play them both somewhere. I agree, That's what I'm saying.

1446
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: You might bring. I don't know if it's one or

1447
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: the other. I mean, Walker Little's coming back for sure.

1448
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: That's a no brainer, right decision is? I agree with you, Pete.

1449
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: Why do you have to make a decision. By the way,

1450
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: I noticed him walking in with the with the quarterback

1451
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: after practice today, So like you, he's last onto the

1452
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: quarterback to keep his spot on the roster. It means

1453
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: he's smart. He's a smart man. Stay close. He went

1454
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: to Stanford. What do you want stay close to the

1455
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. And here's one thing, Pete, why couldn't you

1456
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: franchise Why couldn't you franchise Cam Robinson and trade him?

1457
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 1: You could, you could, depending on what else you do.

1458
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: You're right, you could just to protect yourself. Yeah, why

1459
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 1: would you let him walk out the door for freeze?

1460
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: Wouldn't unless you're taking you can get a cop pick

1461
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: back for him. Maybe you can get a second rounder

1462
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: if you franchise him. The last time the Jags had

1463
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: a compensation pick, that hasn't happened us everybody. That's how

1464
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: it works, all right. You still have a lot of

1465
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: money to spend JP a whole lot, a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: And if they make some of those moves like they

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01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: make changes there, then that opens up even more. I mean,

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01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 1: Linda and Noril, those are the big ones to watch

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01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: for not being back in the offensive. And I think

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01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: I don't know any thing. I'm just saying based on injuries,

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: based on performance, based on a lot of contracts, contracts,

1472
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: the money spent. I mean those are I'd be looking there.

1473
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: Next question social media today at britt Jack in the

1474
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: momentum yesterday's win carrying the next season. I know the

1475
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: consensus is normally no, but that win felt huge yesterday.

1476
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: The momentum of the wind doesn't carry over. You got

1477
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: a whole new staff, you have a whole new team.

1478
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: This team will look remarkably different next year. In a

1479
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,919
Speaker 1: lot of ways we can carry over is the confidence

1480
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: of the individual players and the performance they have. Because

1481
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: you have a good taste of your mouth, it gives

1482
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: you something to build on. You have good feelings moving forward,

1483
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: so I think that you can build on it. But

1484
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: building on as a team win too much turnover is

1485
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: gonna happen to this organization? Yeah, I don't. I don't

1486
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: think it carries over. I just don't. I mean it's

1487
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: for a guy like Trevor Larrence. It probably says, oh,

1488
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: you know what, I know, I could play this league

1489
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: now you know that. That gives me validation. But I

1490
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 1: don't think it carries over the next year. Easy enough.

1491
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: Next question social media at Duvall Underscore buck Eyes victory

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01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 1: Monday Boys. If you were to rank the Open coaching positions.

1493
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: Where would the Jags rank Pete, it would rank up there.

1494
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't know where I would rank it. But I

1495
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: think you got an owner and it's willing to spend,

1496
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: you have a lot of cap room. You have the

1497
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: first overall pick. I think we said this all last year.

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01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: By the way, um, it's it's in a state that

1499
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: has no state income tax and you get a new

1500
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: facility and you're by the beach and the weather is good.

1501
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: So aside from that, what's wrong with it? And Minnesota

1502
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: weather stinks? Miami? You gotta you know, like jack there's

1503
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: the problem like Jacksonville inherited general manager because Chris Career

1504
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: is staying the Raider. I think the Raiders are gonna

1505
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: keep Rich pisaccia um and the Broncos job. That's where's

1506
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback of all those teams? The Bears have a quarterback,

1507
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have a quarterback, and the Raiders have a quarterback.

1508
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: So that makes them And to h if you think

1509
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: he's good, and there's questions, you're still out there, do

1510
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: you think too is good? Do you think he's a

1511
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback? Pete? I don't. I lean towards you. I

1512
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 1: haven't seen as much as you have. He got better,

1513
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: he got better, but nothing but nothing jumps off the

1514
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: pages like being dynamic. Tell me like one like, what

1515
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: is one thing he like, physical trait or quality that

1516
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: he has? It's just over the top and that's what

1517
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,560
Speaker 1: worries me. I think the great ones new um the

1518
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: I think the question about where this job ranks is

1519
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: is how is how is the question mark of Trent Balky?

1520
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: Where right now he is? How does Trent Balky being

1521
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: the GM? Um? How's that play? Across the league? There's

1522
01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: a lot of strong opinions about Trent ball. What was that? Pete?

1523
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: That doesn't play well? Right? And Pete? But don't you agree?

1524
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of strong opinions about Trump

1525
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 1: about Trent Balky around the wing at least that's what

1526
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: I hear. Pete, you're more even connected than I am.

1527
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people. But there are a

1528
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: lot of people questioning him being in that job, still

1529
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:23,719
Speaker 1: in that job? Yes, absolutely, So there you have it. Um,

1530
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: let's get let's get one more in Why not one

1531
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 1: more social me at Lloyd are one L? Pete should

1532
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 1: be a GM right JP and Tony no I like

1533
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: this guy. I like this guy. They didn't ask you,

1534
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: Pete asked j p JP. What's your answer? Uh, they

1535
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: asked me, h, Nana, that's two knows you lose. It's

1536
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: just football. It's not that complicated. Really. I will say

1537
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: this about Pete Prisco in all series and Pete and

1538
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 1: I have known each other twenty seven years now. Yeah,

1539
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: and there is not a harder working I should maybe

1540
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 1: there's a harder working, but there's not a guy who

1541
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: studies the craft and studies film and actually really looks

1542
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 1: at it and actually makes phone calls and picks up

1543
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: and ask people who know more than he does about

1544
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: film and what they're looking at to confirm whether he

1545
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: is right or wrong. And so I'm not saying Pete

1546
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: will ever be a GM, but could Pete be a

1547
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: part of a staff to help build a team. Yes,

1548
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: Pete knows football, he knows personnel, and more than anything,

1549
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 1: he's a grinder that would work at it to study

1550
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 1: and uncover um the right type of people I mean

1551
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: because he I mean, so you're right, Yeah, you're right

1552
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: about the GM part of it, because I don't want

1553
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: to deal with them with with somebody's uh you know,

1554
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: shoot contract or or you know, did you get the

1555
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: building painted? Or or you know who who's are we

1556
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 1: gonna get a new support staff. I don't want to

1557
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: deal with it, and I just want to deal with

1558
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: football players. That's all I want to deal with, getting

1559
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: football players, acquiring football players, making decisions, grinding the tape,

1560
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: watching the players. No, he and he would. I mean

1561
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 1: this morning, we both happen to call the same head uh,

1562
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: same coach in the NFL and then at the same time.

1563
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 1: And my point is, I mean Pete does his work,

1564
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: and Pete he he texted me all the time. He

1565
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 1: sends film to me. He says, hey, is this right

1566
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: with am I looking? Am I seeing this right? About

1567
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: this offensive lineman? And I'll say, yeah, this is what

1568
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: you're looking at, And so I always you're changing your

1569
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: answer to yes. I don't think he could be a GM.

1570
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: I think he could be a part of either because

1571
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the GM. I don't think

1572
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: because the GM is more than just picking players, be

1573
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: a pro personnel guy. I think he could be a

1574
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: part of his staff because he knows football, he has

1575
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: he has strong convictions, and he would do the work

1576
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,480
Speaker 1: to go figure it out. That's why I think, hey, um,

1577
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: let's come back. We've gotta get around the league, and

1578
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: we're up against it, against it, and do a quick

1579
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: around the league. Cause we had to say goodbye for

1580
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: the year. We gotta get proper goodbyes short around the league.

1581
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 1: If you quit talking, we might give me able to care.

1582
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.

1583
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy our final few minutes for the

1584
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,799
Speaker 1: final show of the season, JP Shattered with Tony Boselli

1585
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: and Pete Prisco. We will change our look around the

1586
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: National Football League with a look ahead to the schedules

1587
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: on Super wild Card Weekend. Tony, you might want to

1588
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: learn the name of the weekend. Okay, super wild Card weekend.

1589
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 1: It's not Supercard Wild Wild Weekend. No, it might be

1590
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: a wild weekend weekend. Oh sorry, I got confused. Yeah,

1591
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: that's in the real off season. The let's start the

1592
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: a f C coming up. They have Saturday and Sunday

1593
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: schedule in the a f C the Raiders and the

1594
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: Bengals Saturday for Patriots Bills Saturday at eight fifteen and

1595
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: then Sunday eight fifteen the Steelers and the Chiefs. Who

1596
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,839
Speaker 1: do you like in these think? Um? I like the Raiders.

1597
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: I do like the Raiders. That's gonna be a tough game.

1598
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: I think it's a really tough game. They've already played

1599
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: each other once. On paper, it looks like the Bengals

1600
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: should win this game because of the way Burrow and

1601
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: Chase and everyone else is playing. I think the Bengals

1602
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: are a young team, young coach. I can see them.

1603
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 1: Raiders haven't been there either, No, But I just like

1604
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,839
Speaker 1: the Raiders are scrappy. Pete. You know what the Raiders

1605
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 1: remind me a little bit of is that our nineties

1606
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: six team, Like they had to win out to get in,

1607
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: Like they've been playing playoff games every week, and like

1608
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: they were everyone had them dead to rights at six

1609
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 1: and seven and the huh and they could rush the passer,

1610
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: Like I just like, I think the Bengals are the

1611
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: better team. I think they have the better receiving corps.

1612
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: I think they have a better quarterback. I think they

1613
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, but I like the Raiders. Um, I'm going

1614
01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: Patriots in the upset, I'm not, And I'm going the

1615
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 1: chief Sound on the road. I'm going Chiefs at home.

1616
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm going Bengals Bill's Chiefs. Although I think the Raiders

1617
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 1: game is gonna be really close. You're going all home games,

1618
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: you know that never happens. That's okay. Let's go to

1619
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: the NFC schedule on Super wild Card weekend. The Eagles

1620
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: at the Buccaneers Sunday at one o'clock, the forty Niners

1621
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys, Tony, you'll have that game Sunday at

1622
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 1: four thirty, and the Cardinals at the Rams Monday. I'm

1623
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: going Buccaneers. I think that's the worst game of the weekend.

1624
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: I think although the Eagles can run the ball and

1625
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 1: they have some success in the second half when they

1626
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: played the Buccaneers earlier of the year, to make that

1627
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: game close. But I think the Bucks win. I don't

1628
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: think the blowout. I think playoffs usually close to be close.

1629
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 1: I think it's forty Niners on the upset on the road,

1630
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 1: and I like the Rams at home. I don't I

1631
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 1: think Arizona is gonna beat him again. I think both

1632
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: those teams are kind of floundering. I think Arizona beats

1633
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: him again. I'll take by the way, Tony. The Rams

1634
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: offensive line the other day was terrible against terrible I'll

1635
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 1: take I'll take the Niners, and I'll take the box

1636
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: you have at the schedule for Super wild Card weekend

1637
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL Playoffs. This is our final show of

1638
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: the season. UM, it's been a pleasure doing it with

1639
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: you guys each week. What is this You're six? We've

1640
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 1: been doing a while now, I know that. Um. I

1641
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 1: First of all, UM, it's fun as always. I always

1642
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 1: missed the show. Love working with Pete as usual. Pete

1643
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: and I have been good friends for a long time

1644
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: and go back and forth and see a lot of

1645
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 1: things alike and a lot of things in a different

1646
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: view at the same time. Um, JP, good job this

1647
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,679
Speaker 1: year putting up with our our stuff. I was about

1648
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: to say another word that I can't say on the air.

1649
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 1: Fair appreciate you A good job steering the ship and

1650
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: keeping it, making sure we're on course. Joe, good job

1651
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: producing Reeves in the background. We have a good team here.

1652
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: This is a good show and I love doing with

1653
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 1: you guys. I do too, And Uh, I echo everything

1654
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: you just said, Tony. JP keeps up with us and

1655
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 1: puts up with our garbage. And uh. The other thing

1656
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:11,839
Speaker 1: is we're allowed to say things. I'm allowed to say things.

1657
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: I love that. That's the greatest thing about this show.

1658
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it if I couldn't. I give the

1659
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 1: Jaguars all the credit in the world because I can

1660
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: say what I need to say if that's what makes

1661
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 1: it fun. And one more thing, next time when we reconvene,

1662
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: somebody's head isn't gonna fit in that studio. I'm telling you,

1663
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about yours. JP up with you?

1664
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 1: Oh with you? Hey, Pete? Um from your from your

1665
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 1: mouth to God's ears, bat baby. And also we have

1666
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,560
Speaker 1: thanks to Chad Johnson for the sport this year. I

1667
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: took over the radio and UH and leads to this

1668
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: organization and during a tough year, a lot of controversy,

1669
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: a lot of things. To Pete's point, his leadership guidance

1670
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 1: and allowed us to have fun on the show and

1671
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 1: do what we do. Appreciate it. Chad, Let's do the

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Speaker 1: show again from Canton, Ohio. That'd be fun. Pete. I

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Speaker 1: will I will host that. I will host the show

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Speaker 1: if that happens. No, you won't you No, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna host the show in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Let me go. I'm not going to show. I'm gon host.

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Speaker 1: All of us get fired. No, I'm tost everyone. Right, job,

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Speaker 1: you're fire. I'm gonna host the show, putting everyone. Everyone

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Speaker 1: will be together. Out of here. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: host the show. Pete Briscoe, that's tell Sally. I'm J P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: I'm fired. Apparently this is Jaguars Happy Hour on the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network.