WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Your House 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.359 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:10.080 the Bengals Booth Podcast. The I'm Going to your House 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.880 tonight addition, as the Bengals look to knock off the 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:18.520 Ravens in Baltimore on Thursday night football coming up, I'll 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:21.599 go one on one with the AFC Defensive Player of 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:26.880 the Week, Trey hendrickson ESPN. NFL insider Dan Graziano tells 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.880 us why he thinks a six and two finish and 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.720 a playoff berth is still possible for Cincinnati, and I'll 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:37.360 look ahead to Thursday Night's game with offensive and defensive 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:41.320 coordinators Dan Pitcher and lou An Arumo. 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This Saturday, 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.640 the University of Cincinnati is recognizing the one hundredth anniversary 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.800 of the naming of Knippert Stadium. In honor of Jimmy 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.280 Nippert and my friends at Rhinegeist Brewery, the makers of 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.600 Cincey Light are coming out with a limited time only 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.679 beer can that features the image of Jimmy Knippert. It 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.080 will be available at UC's game against West Virginia and 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.440 a limited quantity of four packs will be available at 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:46.280 the Rhinegeist tap room in Over the Rhine. The artwork 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:50.040 on the can is amazing and I suspect they'll be 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.840 on display in Cincinnati bars and man caves for many 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.600 years to come. It's a really cool keepsake from the 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:02.920 makers of Cincey Light, Cincinnati's light beer. Now let's get 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.400 to my first guest. Who had the best game of 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.359 his NFL career last Sunday. Minshoe catches against the four 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:15.120 man rush in trouble and sacked by Trey Hendrickson with 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.600 a sack back at the thirty five Desmond Ridder waits 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.320 for the shotgun snap he catches. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.040 Here comes a blitz hand. Rudder gets sacked for a 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:28.640 loss of five. Trey Hendrickson adds to his sack total. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:34.080 Ridder ready he catches the shotgun snap, whoa Trey Hendrickson 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:40.440 Berry's Desmond Ridder big play. Trey Man does it again. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.720 I'll tell you what he just threw. Mumford aside like 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:44.640 he was little kid. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.880 First and ten Raiders at their own thirty Desmond back 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:49.239 to throw. 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.200 It's a deep drop. Hendrickson sacks them, knocks the ball free. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.280 It's still loose and the Bengals fall on it as 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:00.960 Logan Wilson recovers at the thirteen yard line. AH four 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.959 sack day for big play tray tray. 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.200 When you record a sack, you point toward the sky. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.000 You're very open about your faith, so I've always assumed 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:14.760 that that is a tribute to God. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:16.600 But tell us if that's the case. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.680 Absolutely, you know, my foundation, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.160 is instilled to me at a young age, a long 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.720 time ago. My parents they raised us great. My older sister, 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:32.320 younger brother also strong in their faith. And obviously my wife, 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:34.600 you know, she's my rock and the day to day, 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.920 keeps me humble, keeps me going, and you know, so, yeah, 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.400 it's a It reminds me that you know, there's a 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:46.480 verse James four six. God opposes the proud and gives 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.280 grace to the humble, So you know, to give God 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.040 the glory is what it's all about. And you know, 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.960 I'm just a vessel and at the end of the day, 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.600 I'm here to help my team win and be the 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:57.240 best I can be. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.520 You certainly helped your team win last week. You had 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.360 four sacks in the game. You had seven quarterback hits 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.080 that is Lawrence Taylor, Bruce Smith type stuff. On one 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.280 of those sacks, you sent a three hundred and fifteen 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.280 pound tackle tumbling like he was a bowling pin. Can 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.520 you describe the adrenaline rush of having a game like that? 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.520 You know, it's one of those things that you you know, 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.400 as a as a competitor, want every game, and you 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.880 know that sacks are a team sport, so are a 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.800 team statistic and it's a team sport. So that being said, 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.200 it's one of those things that it's rush and coverage together. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:38.000 So it was great opportunity for individual achievement this week. 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.920 Getting the quarterback as fast as I could and obviously 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:42.960 trying to help this team win. 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.560 You're one of the best pass rushers in the league. 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.880 Another one was on the opposite side of the field 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.680 last week, Max Crosby. He did not have any sacks 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.920 during the course of the game. When you go into 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.720 a matchup like that, do you create a little bit 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.040 of a personal one on one thing in your head? 0:04:58.720 --> 0:04:59.000 Uh? 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.119 The only one on one on concerned about is whatever 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.880 offensive tackle is out there. And you know, through these 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.000 next couple of weeks, we have a pretty great amount 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.880 of quality opponents coming up, so my focus is always 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.720 going to be on my opponent across the ball, not 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.720 across the field. So that's for Joe and the O 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.760 line to handle, you know, and they've done a great 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.839 job this season. Credit to them. It's been fun to watch. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.960 So you know, it's one of those things that I 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.120 take care of my one eleventh on this defense and 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.680 try to help this brotherhood succeed as a defense. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.280 We're visiting the Trey Hendrickson. You face the Ravens on 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.440 Thursday Night football. It's the second game in almost exactly 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.480 a month against Baltimore. Could have won, maybe should have 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.640 won the first one, if not for a missed field 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.560 goal in ot Does that give everybody in this locker 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.080 room the knowledge that if we play well, we can 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:50.680 beat this team in Baltimore. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.480 I think we've known that we have the capabilities to 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.080 do it since OTAs. I mean, the talent level it's there, 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.320 the coaches are there. You know, we're being put in 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.560 the right spots. So it's execution at a high level, 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:05.279 and that comes down to the guys under the field 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.440 and doing what we're coached to do. Fundamentals and technique 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.880 that lead to winning, you know. So there are no 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.840 real moral victories. It's a winning lots league. It's a 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.200 national football league, and if we're going to go where 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.240 we want to go, we have to win big games 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.520 on the road and at home. So it's going to 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.400 take all of us and that's something that I think 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.040 we're excited for the challenge. 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:27.839 Now let's just do it. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.919 Baltimore's been one of the best rushing teams in the 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.640 league for years and now they've added Derrek Henry. He's 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.120 already rushed for more than a thousand yards this season. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.600 What has he done for that Ravens rushing attack. 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.360 Well, he's done a lot for Alabama when he was there. 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.240 He did a lot for the Titans when he was there, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.520 and he's doing a lot for the Ravens. So talented 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.960 football player. I think in any scheme let alone, the 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:55.760 Ravens type offense and AFC North you know style play. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.240 I think he fits the mold and he's being very productive. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.520 But it's our job, a special upfront in the defensive line, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.560 to make that as hard as possible for him. 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.320 Do you have to rush Lamar Jackson differently than you 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:08.279 rush anybody else? 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.480 I think the league in general is kind of trending 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.120 that way to rushing in a different style, meaning we 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.920 have more mobile quarterbacks, guys that can throw and run. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.080 But I don't think anybody does it better than Lamar. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.200 I mean, he's a quality dual threat quarterback and he 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.320 can do both. So there is a heightened emphasis when 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:30.040 you play a league MVP like that special talent. He's 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.640 been doing it for a long time, so you know 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.600 it's going to take all of us, you know, rush 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.520 and coverage to get this. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:37.040 Guy to the ground. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.440 Your younger teammates have so much respect for you and 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.960 your work ethic. Joseph i Osia immediately comes to mind 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.920 as somebody who's just effusive in praising what he's learned 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.520 from watching you and talking to you. What does it 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.560 mean when a younger guy comes up to you and 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:54.720 wants to pick your brain about your craft? 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.960 Well, you know, that's a that's a humbling reality because 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:59.760 I think I was that young kid with Cam Jordan 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:00.480 one point. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.840 So you know, I'm blessed to do this. 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.240 I'm blessed to have the knowledge of football in some 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.760 way that I can give something to these younger players, 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.920 because that's what it's all about, is, you know, loving 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.600 the guy next to you and bringing him up. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.400 So Justin was a great, great guy. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.520 Uh, hell of a football player too, and you know, 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.440 I'm blessed that he has that opinion of me. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.200 Your thirtieth birthdays about a month away. You're playing as 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.280 well as you've ever played in your life. How much 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:28.960 longer do you think you can do this at the 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:30.280 level that you're playing. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:32.719 You know, as long as it takes, you know, then 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.439 I think it's something that I love football. I love 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.560 his team, I love playing here in Cincinnati. 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:38.800 Two. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.160 It's it's been such a blessing to me and my family. 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.240 So you know, as long as that I have wining 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.120 the sales, and I give credit to the Lord for 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:47.960 doing that for me. 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.600 I'm gonna keep pushing. Appreciate your time very much. Best 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.000 of luck against Ravens, all right. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:53.480 Thanks so much. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.840 Tray was named AFC Defensive Player of the Week for 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.920 last week's four sad Day and now leads the league 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.280 with eleven That's two more than the guy in second place, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.239 Dexter Lawrence of the New York Giants. For sake of comparison, 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.320 Miles Garrett has seven and TJ. Watt has six and 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.120 a half in one fewer game. Thursday Night's game in 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.800 Baltimore is obviously a big one for the Bengals. A 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.520 win would get them to five hundred, and if the 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:25.040 five and four Broncos lose on the road at Kansas City, 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.280 the Bengals would be tied for the final playoff spot 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.080 in the AFC. I discussed the bengals chances of making 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.000 a second half run with one of the top NFL 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:40.679 reporters at ESPN. Our guest this week is ESPN NFL 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.120 insider Dan Graziano. Dan, the Bengals are in Baltimore this 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.800 week trying to get to five hundred on Thursday night. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.920 What does this opportunity represent to you? 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.000 I think everything I mean, and really you can loop 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.920 into two weeks follow too. When you look at Baltimore 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.160 and the Chargers and the Steelers, you're talking about the 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:01.760 teams that are in front of you in your division 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.760 and one or two of the teams that are in 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.480 front of you in terms of your wild card hunt. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.920 So you know, this is the Bengals have, unfortunately, with 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.160 the way they played the first nine games, kind of 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.560 given away their margin for error. And you know, it's 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.000 cool that you almost beat the Ravens and you almost 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.000 beat the Chiefs, and you know, but like you lost, 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.240 and so now you have to beat the Ravens like 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.440 it's not good enough to play them tough and lose 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:28.080 an overtime. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.240 You know, the Steelers are an opportunity. I think. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.400 You know they've started off very well, but you know, 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.600 what's their quarterback situation and are they going to be 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.280 beatable over the second half as we've seen sometimes in 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:41.040 recent years. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.240 So it's all there for them. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.760 But yes, they have to draw on all the really 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.160 I wish there's a great deal all the really good 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.240 stuff they did in that first Baltimore game and get 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.160 the bad stuff that cost them the game at the 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.640 end out of their heads because they have an opportunity 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:57.080 to beat them. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.800 There's no doubt about it. It's just it's at this point, 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:02.880 you know, there's no more moral victories. 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.240 Dan, You've been in Cincinnati on a few occasions this year, 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.160 going back to training camp, and you were here a 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.719 couple of weeks ago for the Bengals Eagles game. What 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.480 do you think they must do better to get the 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.360 job done over the final eight games? 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.360 Well, I mean, look, the Eagle game was a tough one, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.920 obviously defensively, especially like someone's got to help Trey Hendrickson. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.320 I mean, I like, right now on defense, there's they're 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.920 just not enough people contributing, and he is, He's playing 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.880 at an incredibly high level, and you would, I don't know, 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.680 look at this chatter out there that they could do something, 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.120 you know, before the trade deadline. That doesn't sound like them, 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.520 but you know it would be It would be nice, right, 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.000 I like to get a little bit of help on 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:43.920 that side of the ball, But I think it has to. 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.920 Someone's gonna have to perform to a higher level. 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.680 On defense than they have so far the Eagle game, 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.520 Orlando Brown went out, there were protection issues obviously, and 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.520 in general, I feel like, you know, Chase Brown is 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.400 a fun story. But they haven't consistently run the ball well. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.200 So there's plenty they can do to play better than 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:04.800 they have so far. But to me, most of it 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.559 is on the defensive side of the ball that has 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.360 to be better. When you look at those those great 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.760 runs they made, you know, the Super Bowl year and 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:13.560 even the year after, I mean, the defense was playing 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.040 at a high level, and then this year it has not. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.480 Dan back in twenty twenty one, during the Bengal Super 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:24.719 Bowl run, you wrote that Joe Burrow makes anything possible. 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.760 What is it about Joe that makes you feel that way? 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.000 Well, look, I mean he's obviously a winner, came into 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.600 the league as a winner coming off that incredible year 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:38.760 at LSU. He's got you know, he's got the leadership qualities. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.959 He was instantly the leader in that locker room when 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:42.840 he walked in there the first day as a rookie. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.640 I remember interviewing him before the second seat before the 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.120 Super Bowl season. We sat together in early September and 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.520 just being really really impressed with just sort of the 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:58.440 maturity level and the he's got an appropriate focus, right, 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.800 Like he's not you know, he's not like ultra serious, 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:05.959 he's not phony. He's dedicated to the things that that 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:08.920 really matter. And I think people sense that about him. 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.720 And I'll never forget something he said earlier in his 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.480 career when they asked him where his confidence comes from, 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.160 and his answer was from my preparation. And I think 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.840 that's an honest answer, right, Like if the better prepared 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.800 you are, the more company or in anything you do. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.600 Uh And And I think that has that has defined 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:28.280 him throughout his career. I mean, he's playing way for 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.640 a five more touchdown passes yesterday, Like I mean, like 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.280 he's playing at a ludicrously high level. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.400 I go back to the first Baltimore game. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.440 I you know, I know there was the interception late, 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.800 but I mean like that looks like for almost the 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.560 entire game, that looked like a man who was determined 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.839 not to lose, Like like, we whatever happened that many 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.400 points they score, we're gonna get one more and uh and, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.640 and you see him operate like that more often than not. Again, 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.160 I just feel like right now he's in a position 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:54.880 where there needs to. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.640 Be some more help on the opposite side of the ball. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.439 You mentioned Trey Hendrickson earlier. He had a career high 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.160 four sacks last week. He leads the league now with 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.320 eleven this season. Trey's been to the last three Pro Bowls, 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.679 so he's obviously respected. But does he belong in the 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:13.640 conversation for the upper echelon of pass rushers in the NFL? 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:14.960 Sure? 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:16.520 I mean, if you're leading the league in sacks after 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.040 week nine, how can you not be right? 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:20.440 I mean, that's not a fluke. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:26.240 So look like that that signing is has been an absolute, 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.600 you know, bullseye, Like there's no question about it. I 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.760 remember at the time, right, like it was Carl lawst 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.280 and they tried to keep him, goes to the Jets, 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.160 end up with Hendrickson, and I mean perfect fit is 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:36.920 delivered at an insanely high level. 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:38.760 I don't know what That's the other thing, right. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.280 Like, like what's the future hold with this group? Like 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.520 is this is the is this the last half season 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.600 of t Higgins? There is this the last half season 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.040 of Trey Hendrickson. They're like, what, like there's a window 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.800 they're trying to hit here. Uh, And I think That's 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.960 another reason why you might see them sort of break 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.280 character and go out and get some help. But yeah, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.200 I mean, Hendrickson is a guy that I think people 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:58.240 around the league definitely. 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:59.160 I mean, when you play the. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.640 Bengals and you're an offensive coordinator, that's the first guy 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:03.560 you're showing your team. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.520 In the Wednesday morning meeting. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.560 The Bengals had Ravens met almost exactly one month ago, 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.720 and Cincinnati would have won the game if not for 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.400 a botched field goal in overtime. What must the Bengals 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.160 do to knock off the Ravens on their home field 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:18.960 on Thursday night? 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.360 Not batched the field goal attempt? 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.320 I think is a good start, right, I mean, like, look, 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:25.520 that's what it came down to. 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.320 These division games are. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.080 Like you throw the records at like it's an old cliche, right, 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:32.680 but you see it all the time. You see like 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.320 the Houston Texans have a hard time with the Colts, 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.400 Like like, you know, Washington had a hard time putting 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.680 the Giants away. Like these teams that are that familiar 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.360 with each other and know how to play each other 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.480 and aren't scared of each other. I think the Bengals 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.360 have to find a way to slow down Derrick Henry. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.880 They did, right, He had thirty rushing yards in regulation 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.960 in the first game. So whatever that I know that. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.760 I go back to the playoff win against Tennessee that year, 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.360 like I remember lou Anarumo saying that he had shown 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.080 his guys video of them tackling Derrick Henry, like to know, 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.360 you see, you can do it. This is not people 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.760 tackling Dereck Henry, this is you. So I think you know, 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.520 we'll see. We'll probably see that here in the next 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.120 couple of days, if we haven't already short week. But yeah, 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.320 and then someone's got to sack Lamar Jackson's not enough 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.080 just chase him around, Like how many times in that 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.280 game did he get away right and make a play downfield? 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.840 So defensively, it's those two things easier said than done, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.280 no question about it. Like no one's really stopped those 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:33.320 guys all year. But yeah, and then then let Burrow 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.640 do his thing. I don't haven't even heard or made 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.640 any calls yet on Higgins. I don't know is he 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.440 expected to play Thursday or is there a chance, But 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.320 certainly obviously that would help. The Ravens defense is very 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.600 gettable on the back end, So the more weapons you 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.080 have to throw out them, the better. But yes, I 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.040 think defensively, whatever they did against Derrick Henry. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.960 For the first sixty minutes a month ago, repeat. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.760 That and then find a way to when you get 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.400 near Lamar Jackson to actually knock him over or push 0:16:58.440 --> 0:16:59.080 him out of bounce. 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.200 The Bengals currently one game out of the final playoff 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.800 spot in the AFC with eight games to go. They 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.600 probably need to go six and two to make that happen. 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.720 Do you see a team that's capable of doing that? 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:12.879 I do, because I see a team that has the 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.919 quarterback to do it and who's done it before. I 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.600 really believe in coaching staffs that have managed a team 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.359 through the ups and downs of a season successfully. 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:23.680 Right and seen it come out okay. 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.680 On the other end, you know, this was the question 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.560 I had going into the season about the Jets, right, like, like, Okay, 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.560 they look good, but can that coaching staff do it? 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.760 Buffalo's camp, we've seen it over and over and over again. Right, 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.399 Kansas City, obviously we know they can. And we know 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.719 that Cincinnati's can because we've seen it even last year. Right, 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.280 held it together with the backup quarterback and nearly got 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:46.600 in so but honestly, the answer to your question is yes, 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.280 I believe it. But we will know for sure after 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.399 the next three games whether they're capable of that or not, 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.120 because if you lose them all or go one and two, 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.240 you're probably done. If you win them all or go 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.080 two and one, then you're still going to be right 0:17:59.080 --> 0:17:59.560 in the thick of it. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.280 Dan, we know you're busy. Thanks so much for the time, 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:03.359 and keep up the great work. 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:04.840 Thank you, my pleasure. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.960 As Dan mentioned, the Bengals made calls prior to the 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.280 trade deadline in an attempt to improve the defense, and 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.480 while that didn't pan out, they did swing a trade, 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.879 landing running back Khalil Herbert from the Bears for a 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.200 seventh round draft pick. 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Now, let's 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.240 take a closer look at Thursday's matchup with the help 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:03.440 of coordinates lou Anarumo and Dan Pitcher. In the first 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.439 meeting between these two teams about a month ago, the 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:10.080 Bengals led by ten on two different occasions in the 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.840 fourth quarter, but with five and a half minutes to go, 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:17.080 Lamar Jackson did this second in goal from the sixth 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.600