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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The I'm Going to your House

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Speaker 1: tonight addition, as the Bengals look to knock off the

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Speaker 1: Ravens in Baltimore on Thursday night football coming up, I'll

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Speaker 1: go one on one with the AFC Defensive Player of

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Speaker 1: the Week, Trey hendrickson ESPN. NFL insider Dan Graziano tells

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Speaker 1: us why he thinks a six and two finish and

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Speaker 1: a playoff berth is still possible for Cincinnati, and I'll

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Speaker 1: look ahead to Thursday Night's game with offensive and defensive

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Speaker 1: thing since the coolest beer can I've ever seen. This Saturday,

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Speaker 1: the University of Cincinnati is recognizing the one hundredth anniversary

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Speaker 1: of the naming of Knippert Stadium. In honor of Jimmy

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Speaker 1: beer can that features the image of Jimmy Knippert. It

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Speaker 1: the Rhinegeist tap room in Over the Rhine. The artwork

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Speaker 1: makers of Cincey Light, Cincinnati's light beer. Now let's get

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Speaker 1: to my first guest. Who had the best game of

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Speaker 1: his NFL career last Sunday. Minshoe catches against the four

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Speaker 1: man rush in trouble and sacked by Trey Hendrickson with

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Speaker 1: a sack back at the thirty five Desmond Ridder waits

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Speaker 2: Here comes a blitz hand. Rudder gets sacked for a

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Speaker 2: Ridder ready he catches the shotgun snap, whoa Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 2: Berry's Desmond Ridder big play. Trey Man does it again.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what he just threw. Mumford aside like

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Speaker 1: First and ten Raiders at their own thirty Desmond back

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Speaker 2: It's a deep drop. Hendrickson sacks them, knocks the ball free.

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Speaker 2: It's still loose and the Bengals fall on it as

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Speaker 1: When you record a sack, you point toward the sky.

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Speaker 1: You're very open about your faith, so I've always assumed

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Speaker 1: that that is a tribute to God.

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Speaker 3: But tell us if that's the case.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, my foundation, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 4: it's a It reminds me that you know, there's a

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Speaker 4: verse James four six. God opposes the proud and gives

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Speaker 4: grace to the humble, So you know, to give God

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Speaker 4: the glory is what it's all about. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm just a vessel and at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: I'm here to help my team win and be the

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Speaker 1: You certainly helped your team win last week. You had

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Speaker 1: four sacks in the game. You had seven quarterback hits

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Speaker 1: you describe the adrenaline rush of having a game like that?

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Speaker 4: You know, it's one of those things that you you know,

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Speaker 4: Getting the quarterback as fast as I could and obviously

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Speaker 1: You're one of the best pass rushers in the league.

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Speaker 1: Another one was on the opposite side of the field

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Speaker 4: The only one on one on concerned about is whatever

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Speaker 4: So you know, it's one of those things that I

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Speaker 1: We're visiting the Trey Hendrickson. You face the Ravens on

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football. It's the second game in almost exactly

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Speaker 4: I think we've known that we have the capabilities to

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Speaker 4: real moral victories. It's a winning lots league. It's a

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Speaker 3: Now let's just do it.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore's been one of the best rushing teams in the

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Speaker 4: I think the league in general is kind of trending

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Speaker 4: But I don't think anybody does it better than Lamar.

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Speaker 1: Your younger teammates have so much respect for you and

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Speaker 1: your work ethic. Joseph i Osia immediately comes to mind

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Speaker 1: as somebody who's just effusive in praising what he's learned

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, that's a that's a humbling reality because

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Speaker 3: So you know, I'm blessed to do this.

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Speaker 4: I'm blessed to have the knowledge of football in some

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Speaker 4: because that's what it's all about, is, you know, loving

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Speaker 3: So Justin was a great, great guy.

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Speaker 4: Uh, hell of a football player too, and you know,

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Speaker 1: well as you've ever played in your life. How much

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Speaker 1: longer do you think you can do this at the

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Speaker 4: You know, as long as it takes, you know, then

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Speaker 4: I think it's something that I love football. I love

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 4: It's it's been such a blessing to me and my family.

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Speaker 4: So you know, as long as that I have wining

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep pushing. Appreciate your time very much. Best

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Speaker 1: of luck against Ravens, all right.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Tray was named AFC Defensive Player of the Week for

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Speaker 1: last week's four sad Day and now leads the league

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Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence of the New York Giants. For sake of comparison,

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Speaker 1: a half in one fewer game. Thursday Night's game in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore is obviously a big one for the Bengals. A

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Speaker 1: the Bengals would be tied for the final playoff spot

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Speaker 1: a second half run with one of the top NFL

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Speaker 1: reporters at ESPN. Our guest this week is ESPN NFL

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Speaker 1: insider Dan Graziano. Dan, the Bengals are in Baltimore this

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Speaker 1: What does this opportunity represent to you?

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Speaker 6: I think everything I mean, and really you can loop

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Speaker 6: into two weeks follow too. When you look at Baltimore

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Speaker 6: So you know, this is the Bengals have, unfortunately, with

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Speaker 6: the way they played the first nine games, kind of

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Speaker 7: You know, the Steelers are an opportunity. I think.

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Speaker 6: You know they've started off very well, but you know,

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Speaker 7: So it's all there for them.

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Speaker 6: But yes, they have to draw on all the really

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Speaker 7: Someone's gonna have to perform to a higher level.

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Speaker 7: I mean, when you play the.

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Speaker 7: In the Wednesday morning meeting.

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Speaker 7: For the first sixty minutes a month ago, repeat.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals currently one game out of the final playoff

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Speaker 7: Right and seen it come out okay.

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Speaker 1: Dan, we know you're busy. Thanks so much for the time,

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Speaker 1: and keep up the great work.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: As Dan mentioned, the Bengals made calls prior to the

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Speaker 1: of coordinates lou Anarumo and Dan Pitcher. In the first

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Speaker 2: He picks it up. He's in trouble. Gabbs has him,

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable. He's a great, great, great football player.

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Speaker 5: And you just look at the one, just the one

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Speaker 1: Lamar threw for three hundred and forty eight yards and

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Speaker 5: We just got to have a you know, next play

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Speaker 5: The MVP of the league in the in their quarterback

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Speaker 5: run game that also has an option to hand it off.

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Speaker 5: Plus you know Derek running the ball the way he does.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's it's not like your traditional way. Okay,

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Speaker 5: we can load up for this particular one back run

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Speaker 5: game when the quarterback is not an option. I'm not

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Speaker 5: you have both elements, now you've got to make sure

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Speaker 5: you've you've got the quarterback handled as well as you've

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Speaker 5: got to be stout inside and normally you're trying to

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Speaker 5: get a guy and a half on the quarterback at least,

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Speaker 5: and now maybe you're not able to do that.

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Speaker 1: One thing the Bengals must do better is tackle Lamar

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Speaker 1: when they have the chance. Sam Hubbard had the Bengals

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Speaker 1: only sack in Game one, as Lamar escaped on several

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Speaker 1: other sack opportunities.

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Speaker 5: It's critical in any game, specifically in this game. And

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Speaker 5: you know, just just being able to get Lamar on

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Speaker 5: the ground is a task that very few people have done.

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Speaker 5: So you know, we've got to make sure we do

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Speaker 5: a great job of containing in the pocket.

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Speaker 3: Every every defensive team talks about that.

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Speaker 5: You got to do it against him and try to

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Speaker 5: make him as uncomfortable as possible.

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Speaker 3: He's operating at a.

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Speaker 5: You know, as we all see, and you know, an

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Speaker 5: MVP type level, so we got to try to get

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Speaker 5: him as uncomfortable as possible.

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Speaker 1: Offensively, the Bengals can't be much better than they were

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Speaker 1: in Game one when they scored thirty eight points. That's

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Speaker 1: the most the Ravens have allowed in their last forty

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Speaker 1: four games. Here's Dan Pitcher.

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Speaker 8: We had some success last time we played him, but

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Speaker 8: that doesn't guarantee success this time. You know, it's a

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Speaker 8: I have every bit of respect that I had for

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Speaker 8: the scheme and for the players going to the first game.

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Speaker 8: I got the same amount going into this game. So

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Speaker 8: we're gonna have to come up with a great plan

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Speaker 8: and it's going to be a challenge, but I think

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Speaker 8: our guys would be.

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Speaker 3: Up for it.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow threw for a career high five touchdowns in

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Speaker 1: that game, a number he matched last week against the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: So why did Joe so ticked off on the sideline

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Speaker 1: in the second half?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's frustrated, you know, it's holds himself

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Speaker 8: in the team to a really high standard.

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Speaker 3: He should.

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Speaker 8: It's about finding a balance, right, you know, and and

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Speaker 8: expressing that when that needs to be expressed. And then also,

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Speaker 8: you know, recognizing positives when positives present themselves. But you listen,

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Speaker 8: he and all of us had high expectations for the season.

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Speaker 8: We still do, and we're far short of where we

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Speaker 8: expected to be at this point.

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Speaker 1: T Higgins had nine catches for eighty three yards and

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns in Game one. If he can't play on

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Speaker 1: Thursday due to injury, the Bengals will likely need to

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Speaker 1: get more out of their running game after only averaging

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Speaker 1: three point one yards of carry in the first meeting.

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Speaker 1: Chase Brown is coming off the best game of his

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Speaker 1: career with thirty two touches for a combined one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty seven rushing and receiving yards last week.

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Speaker 8: He was a high volume ball carrier in college. He

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Speaker 8: does all the right things to take care of his body.

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Speaker 8: He's diligent pro He.

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Speaker 9: Catches as many balls as receivers, do you know? In

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Speaker 9: practice he goes through the pre game pre pre warm

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Speaker 9: ups with the receivers running routes and catching balls and so,

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Speaker 9: like I said, I mean, he's just one of those

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Speaker 9: guys that you trust because you know how Hardy works,

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Speaker 9: and so I think that's showing up.

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Speaker 1: The game is a return to the scene of the

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Speaker 1: crime where Joe Burrow injured his wrist on Thursday Night Football,

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Speaker 1: almost exactly one year ago. In regular season primetime games,

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Speaker 1: Burrow has sixteen touchdown passes and only three interceptions.

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Speaker 8: Pride yourself on being an elite competitor. I think you

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Speaker 8: relish any situation where you know the attention of the

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Speaker 8: football world is on you. So everything I know about

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Speaker 8: him tells me that I think he likes these spots.

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Speaker 1: Thursday's game kicks off at eight fifteen and our coverage

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Speaker 1: on the Bengals Radio network will get underway at six

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Speaker 1: point thirty. That's going to do it for this episode

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