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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Today the show, We're joined by Mike Hunt Sucker and

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Speaker 1: Sean Luckell of Heartland Bow Hunter and we're going to

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Speaker 1: be discussing how to film and photograph your hunts like

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Speaker 1: a pro. Lots to learn this episode, so settling and

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Speaker 1: joy all right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast.

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Speaker 1: Today the show, We've got a pair of great guests.

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Speaker 1: These are two guys I really enjoyed spending time with

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Speaker 1: over the years, and in addition to being great hunters,

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Speaker 1: there are also two of the most skilled people you'll

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Speaker 1: find in the hunting industry with a camera in hand.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Mike and Sean Man. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having us. Yeah, thanks for having us. I appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're we're excited to talk to you guys. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I know that you know three of us have chat

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Speaker 1: a lot in the past, but I'm excited to be

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Speaker 1: able to dive into some different topics today for the podcast. Now,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned you guys are avid hunters, photographers, videographers,

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Speaker 1: and we're hoping to talk to you guys today about

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Speaker 1: all three of those things. But to kick things off,

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Speaker 1: could maybe Sean maybe start out here we're telling us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about what you and Mike do at

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Speaker 1: Hartland bow Hunter and Mammoth. Mike and I are owners

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Speaker 1: in both companies, Hartland bow Hunter and Mammoths Media, and

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Speaker 1: we've been a part of each since the beginning. Um, basically,

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Speaker 1: I think you're having eight years for Hartland bow Hunter

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Speaker 1: and then I want to say four years for Mammoth

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Speaker 1: are three years? I'm sorry? So so we've been around

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Speaker 1: for a little bit and we uh kinda kind of

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Speaker 1: part in what we're doing, we've got to get system down.

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Speaker 1: And both companies are growing very rapidly, especially in the

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Speaker 1: outdoor industry. So things are going very well and that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I concur from everything I've seen, seems like you guys

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Speaker 1: are doing things the right way now. Mike, for maybe

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Speaker 1: those who aren't familiar with Hartland Bowl Hunter, can you

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Speaker 1: give us a super high level of what the show

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Speaker 1: is all about, where it can be found you know,

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Speaker 1: what's your what's your deal? Yeah, we're currently filming for

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Speaker 1: our eight season of the show, So we've been around

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Speaker 1: a little while. And uh, our show is is something

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit different than what's out there, and

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Speaker 1: at least that's kind of how we have separated ourselves

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Speaker 1: is um is by our show being a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: And when we started out, we noticed that there was

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for there to be a really well produced

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Speaker 1: out there, and that's changed a lot over the past

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Speaker 1: you know, we saw an opportunity there and kind of

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Speaker 1: aspects surrounding bow hunting about what both hunting really is,

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Speaker 1: because it's not about just to kill and just going

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Speaker 1: lot of shows made it look, so we wanted to

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Speaker 1: little more a little more real, little more raw. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I UM, and you guys have done a really good

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Speaker 1: the entire industry. I think we've seen just a total

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Speaker 1: my friend over there, Dan, what kind of crazy question

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna ask We're gonna ask, you know, a

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Speaker 1: All right, it's Friday, you're you know, you're at a bar,

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Speaker 1: take lucks and scale any day. It seems like you

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Speaker 1: guys usually sell in your group at least one person

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Speaker 1: go buy a GoPro or a garment verb or a

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00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 1: you know, a point of view style camera you to

427
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,719
Speaker 1: strap your bow and wear on your head and go

428
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: out there, or you know, if you want to get

429
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: a little more serious and actually get a uh, you know,

430
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: video camera and tree arm. I mean, there's so many

431
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: options for tree arms now, and it's just uh, tons

432
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: of options out there now. I'm prepared to what it

433
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: used to be. Yeah, I've definitely know it's the same thing.

434
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: Is there any any particular you know, lots of times

435
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: people want specific gear, They want to know what the

436
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: exact is to get any recommendations on a beginner camp

437
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: order or beginner camera arm or anything like that. You know,

438
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 1: I'm not real well versed when it comes to the

439
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: smaller hand am style video cameras, but um, I know

440
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: Sony makes uh several different you know, tons of there's

441
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: something different options. What we always cut people with, you know,

442
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: make sure if you're gonna get a video game, and

443
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: make sure you get one that has the manual focus capability,

444
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: because filming hunts is just really it's really tough to

445
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: do with with the camera and auto focus you know,

446
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: focuses on all the trees and the branches and uh

447
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: that types of stuff. So that's what I always tell people,

448
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, to do when they're when they're looking looking

449
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: at the video camera. But also a lot of times

450
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: I'll recommend people looking into get into DSLR because now

451
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: they've they've advanced so so far that they take a

452
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: really really good video and you can take pictures. So

453
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: it's kind of two cameras and one and a lot

454
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: of guys that tell them, you know that that makes

455
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: it easier to justify uh, toughing their wife and to

456
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: let them get in the camera as if they could say, hey,

457
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: well I can take pictures of the family and all

458
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: that stuff too. So that's the move I played and

459
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: it worked. There, you go, that's awesome. Now when it

460
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: comes to filming your hunts of the DSLR, it's kind

461
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: of going off on tangent here um, but I've always

462
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: thought that'd be a pretty big challenge, but I know

463
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: that you know, people are doing it and you guys too.

464
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: Um any tips on how to pull that off? It's

465
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: not it's not like an overly challenging Actually, they're pretty

466
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: intuitive and easy to use. The the cuff part is

467
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: there's no one lens it really works for everything. Um.

468
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple of different lenses that are

469
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: pretty versatile, like the Pygma and Tamar and they both

470
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: make a lens it's like an eighteen to two fifty

471
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: year to seventy and um. So they have a pretty

472
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: good range and you know, they can they can chew wide.

473
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: They can also get you know tight and zoom from

474
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: dear far away. But they're they're pretty limited when it

475
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: comes to a low light capability. So there's there isn't

476
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: one perfect lens out there. That's a couple of unfortunate

477
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: so you end up you know switching lenses or uh

478
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: sacrifice and little light capability for versatility. Um. But and

479
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: thenother thing too that uh maybe a little more difficult

480
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: to exposing the shot. And you know, shooting on manual

481
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: exposure opposed auto exposure, like a lot of the cameras

482
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: on the video cameras are gonna do do most of

483
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: the word for you. But if you're shooting on DSLR,

484
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: a lot about something is to be controlled manually. So um,

485
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: you know, it may not be the best options for

486
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: someone who knows nothing about filming or about cameras, but um,

487
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people that have used DSLRs before or

488
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: slurs in the past, you know, they know nothing about photography.

489
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: I'll just tuyes right over into in the video side. Yeah, definitely,

490
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a good idea to think about for

491
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. If you do know some of

492
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: those basicals about DSLRs, they do take some incredible video footage,

493
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: that's for sure. So how about for you, sean sticking

494
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: to the topic of the guy that's new to filming,

495
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: any advice just on the purely you know, actually doing it.

496
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: Any advice for that guy on you know, what to

497
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: be thinking about when he's filming, or how he should

498
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: be setting up anything along those lines. Um, that's free

499
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: arm is mandatory I think for some swimming out of

500
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: a tree and then on the ground. Obviously, a tripod,

501
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: whether it's a cheap one or not, it, just have

502
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: something and then, um, I think the the other important

503
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: things to remember are just three things, which are just

504
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: your exposure and make sure you're exposed for the shot

505
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: you're framing. Just make sure that whatever you're filming is

506
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: at least in the frame as far as an animal

507
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. And then focus. Just make

508
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: sure it's all unfocused. And if you can remember those

509
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: three things, you're you're gonna have something pretty solid at

510
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: least to go back and look at, rather than you know,

511
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: missing it or not, you know, not having in the

512
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: frame or completely out of focus them. Then the the

513
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: the film's kind of ruined at that point. But yeah,

514
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: if you can remember those three things, I think, yeah,

515
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: you'll have a pretty solid video now. Now, Mike, Um,

516
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: you guys obviously earned a different boat than most people. Um,

517
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: you guys rely on good footage and uh and having

518
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 1: a cameraman with the hunter you know, to produce your

519
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: show and whatnot. But as far as tree stands set

520
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: up specifically, is concerned, what any any tips or advice

521
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: for setting up a tree stand with a cameraman stand

522
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: above it or to the side that you can give

523
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: our listeners. Yeah, we always uh one thing that we

524
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, every tree is different, but what we try

525
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: to do is, uh, we tend to try to get

526
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: over the right shoulder of of the hunter if he's

527
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: a right handed guy, So you're you're shooting kind of

528
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: right over his shoulder down down the bow and you

529
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: can get kind of the best angle that way. Um.

530
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: And using what Sean might do is we'll put the

531
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: base in the stand about the base of the cameras

532
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: cameraman stands about the height of the seat of the hunderstand,

533
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: So you give up there a little bit above him. Um.

534
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: That way, you know you can you can film over

535
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: his head. He's not gonna be blocking the new but

536
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: you're still relatively closer. You guys can communicate well, Um,

537
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: I think get some good footage. That would cool. Now,

538
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: what about you know, if someone's trying to take things

539
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: a little more seriously, maybe for the guy that's at

540
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: the point now he's interested in getting to the industry,

541
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: wants to start selling some footage, or maybe he's joined

542
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: a show or starting his own show or a web

543
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: show or something. If you know, if this guy was

544
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: gonna start upgrading his equipment, what would you say is

545
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: the most important thing to upgrade. Um. Any recommendations for

546
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 1: that maybe two sean Um. It just saims if you're

547
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: filming with the DSLR, a lot of your money is

548
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: going to go into lens as lenses or extremely important. UM.

549
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: We used to always we started off kind of focusing

550
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: on on the body and then we'd always you know,

551
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: kind of we had stock lenses for the most part,

552
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: because he didn't really know much about it. But once

553
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: we started to learn a lot more and see the

554
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: difference and better glass three lenses, that's where that's where

555
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: we started to spend our money. And that's where I

556
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: think people should focus on. Um. We I think we

557
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: have three primary ones that we that we use all

558
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: the time, and UM yeah, I just think that's where

559
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: that's where your money is well spent at and trying

560
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: to think of anything else. Audio. Audio is very important.

561
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: People think that you don't necessarily need wireless mics and

562
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and I think they're extremely important. I

563
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't even feel comfortable filming without one anymore. If I

564
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: don't if like we forget it or we're out of batteries,

565
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: we literally have none left. It's just it's almost like

566
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: a wasted hunt because without good audio, I mean really,

567
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: the only thing you have left to do is put

568
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: music over it, and then I don't know. It's a

569
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: it's a pretty pretty large key element UM to the

570
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: Hunt and producing a good good shot or good film

571
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: or episode whatever you're filming. Definitely. Now Sean elaborating on

572
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: that just a little bit, what do you think, I mean,

573
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: would you recommend a shotgun mike UM over maybe a

574
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: wireless mike to on wearing on the Hunter or um

575
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: is there's one kind of trump the other. UM, I

576
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: would pro that's a tough one. UM. Probably a wireless

577
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: if you're just filming one person. UM, if you're filming

578
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: a group of people, you might want to a high

579
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: end shotgun mike because you can pick up everyone fairly

580
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: well as long as it's not super windy. UM. We

581
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: run Sindyser wireless mikes. I think they're the the E

582
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: three model. UM. I think they run for about five

583
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where that's where people I think

584
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: you're thrown off. They're like, oh, I don't need to

585
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: spend five on something like that. It's not that's worth

586
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: let's you know, it's it really doesn't add that much,

587
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: but it really does. Actually, I'm not sure what everyone rong.

588
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there are a lot of people

589
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: that have different theories and run different audio systems, but

590
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: that that's what we run, and we've been I feel

591
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: like we've done pretty well just that that's set up,

592
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: and we run sind Heiser shotgun mics as well on

593
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: our on our DSLRs too, So it just depends on

594
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: the situation. But for the most part, I'd probably say

595
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: I need more comfortable having the person wearing a wireless

596
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: most of the time. Gotcha, gotcha? So I guess taking

597
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: the next step when we're talking about getting quality footage

598
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: for that guy, that's a guy or girl who's trying

599
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: to really take it to the next level. Of course,

600
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: people usually tend to think that the most important thing

601
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: is the gear, right. It always seems if I get

602
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 1: the fancy camera, I'm gonna have awesome footage and I'm

603
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a pro. But really it's usually the person

604
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: behind the camera from what I've experienced. So I'd like

605
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: to hear from both of you guys on this, But

606
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: maybe Mike first. You know, what kind of things can

607
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: someone do? You know, actually, when it comes to you know,

608
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: setting your camera properly or actual technique when using the

609
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: camera to to get that high quality footage or story. Um,

610
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: that really can get you above into that next level. Um.

611
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's something that that I think that

612
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: we always recommend people do is you know, make sure

613
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: that they're using the best best stuff possible. Um. And

614
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: it all really kind of depends on your budget, I

615
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: guess is what I would say is, um, you know,

616
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: people that are doing it for more you know, more

617
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: serious reasons can actually justify spend them going money on it. Um.

618
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: But you know, it doesn't take he doesn't take the

619
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: comes out in all our cameras to get the best

620
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: footed you know, Like I said, those DSLRs will shoot

621
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: great footage if we've used used them a lot in

622
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: some of our shows. So um, you know, I think

623
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: that what has helped us kind of take that next

624
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: step when we initially got started filming and started putting

625
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: together a TV shows was just actually like paying attention

626
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: to the camera settings and running them manually. Um. The

627
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: camera can only do so much in auto, you know,

628
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: and and if you kind of use that as a crush,

629
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: then then it's you know you're always going to have

630
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: just mediocre footage. To take that next step, you really

631
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: gotta gotta run things manually. Um. And that means you know,

632
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: controlling exposure, manually monitoring the audio. You know, just pay

633
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: attention to all the details, because it's just each each

634
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: little detail of the different aspects of the video that

635
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: makes it all, you know, feel right when it comes together. Yeah. Absolutely, Now, Sean,

636
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: you had mentioned a little bit about framing and stuff earlier.

637
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: Do you have any other advice when it comes to

638
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: technique or anything along those lines that people should start

639
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: paying attention to your storyline? Um. I was once told,

640
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: or we were once told m from the get like

641
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: in the very beginning when we were trying to learn

642
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: how to film the hout, um that you want to

643
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: you want to film your hot as a cameraman and

644
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: non mansitor. And I think that's all I think. I

645
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: think you film your hot thinking about how the story

646
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: is going to be cut up and how it's gonna

647
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: makes sense. Um. So as a field producer, you need

648
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: to be out there getting the shop to tie the

649
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: story together and thinking about how that story is all

650
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: going to be told. Um. When it goes to production,

651
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: because if you have a missing element, then VIM it's

652
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: in your editors hands trying to figure out how he's

653
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: going to tell the story when he doesn't have something

654
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: there to work with, their an element to show that

655
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: the story was was you know or how you just

656
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: just storytelling. I think that's that's that's something that people

657
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: really need to think about when they're out there trying

658
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: to produce something in the field. It's great advice. Now, UM,

659
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: what do you think? And I'll let h I'll let

660
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: Sean you start again. And I'd like to hear Mike's

661
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: opinion on this as well. But what do you think

662
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: the biggest mistake UM, hunters make while they're out in

663
00:34:54,719 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: the woods filming. Mm hmm, that's a that's a good question. Um,

664
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: probably not telling the story. UM. I think that a

665
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: lot of people, even ourselves, You'll get into a grind,

666
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: especially if you're not having successful hunts, and you'll you'll

667
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: tell a great story from the get go, and then

668
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: four or five days into the hunt, maybe you're not

669
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: seeing any deer. It just becomes repetitive. You stop filming.

670
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: You might you might just film the hunt itself and

671
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: nothing in between that or anything to tie anything together.

672
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: So I think you've gotta you gotta remain focused and

673
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: try to film as much as you possibly can. And

674
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: if if things aren't going well or you're just not

675
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: you're not seeing deer or I don't know, maybe you

676
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: maybe you you blew out a tire, or your your

677
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: bow blew up, or something happened, you broke a string

678
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: or something like that. You know, you might get down

679
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: about that, but you need to capture that stuff the show, um,

680
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: to show everyone just exactly what's going on and why

681
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: this trip has turned had taken a turn for the worst.

682
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that might not be the style of your show,

683
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: but at least have it there in case that's something

684
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: you want to add into the story to tell your viewers.

685
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: What about you, Mike, something something somebody should really take

686
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: into consideration when they're when they're out there. Um yeah not.

687
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: I like what Shohnson I've been telling. The story is

688
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: huge and actually coming everything that helps kind of tell that. Um.

689
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't know when we first guy started telling, we

690
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: just literally filmed everything, so we had had everything and

691
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: now we have a better idea on what to do.

692
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: But um, I think you know, just like I said earlier,

693
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: people running the cameras and auto and stuff and and

694
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: not really you're not really getting the full benefit of

695
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: the camera the technology if you do it that way.

696
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 1: So take the time to learn the settings. Um, getting

697
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: really comfortable with the camera and the other thing that

698
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: that we didn't haven't mentioned yet really, but there's just

699
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: so much information out there that people have access to,

700
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, between tutorials or informational websites and and everything.

701
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: There's so many different options. So, um, you know that

702
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: this guy's kind of the limit there. We've we've neither

703
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: one of us went to film school or any sort

704
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: of formal education. We're all self taught and uh, you know,

705
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: I I've learned everything we know just by digging in

706
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: and spend the time researchers yea, and to kind of

707
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: to kind of or just piggyback off what Mike said

708
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: is people will get intimidated and I think by cameras

709
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: and think that they're overly complicated, and they're really really not.

710
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean they're engineered to be used or friendly. So

711
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: I mean, don't be afraid to to look these things up.

712
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: I mean everything is out there on the internet, not

713
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: just I mean like today, I was working on some

714
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: stuff from my house, and I mean I just any

715
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: time that I don't know something, I just get online

716
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: and research it and that. And that's all basically come

717
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: from us trying to teach ourselves how to run cameras.

718
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: So all the information is out there. Yeah, very true,

719
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: very true. Just go just go to Google. Google, right, Mark, Yes,

720
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 1: Google is the one to use. Come on now, Sean.

721
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: Well taking a turn in the other direction, you know,

722
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: onto photography. This is probably something that even more hunters

723
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: um can relate to, because maybe not everyone wants to

724
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: film a hunt, but nine percent of guys out there

725
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: are definitely gonna want to get some good photos of

726
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: their deer after they had some success. So maybe starting

727
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: on the gear set again. Uh, Mike, any recommendations for

728
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: a good beginner camera set up for someone just trying

729
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: to take some nice trophy photos. Yeah, I mean if

730
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: the technology has come up so far in the past

731
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: few years, um, but there's so many good options out there. Um.

732
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: We're kind of married to the Cannon brand on the

733
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: on the dsl our side of things, just because that's

734
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: what we started using initially and that's where we've invested

735
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: all of our money in glasswide, so all of our

736
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: lenses that can um, so everything we use cannons, So

737
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: we've kind of we're kind of you know, fans of

738
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: of the cannon DSLRs UM and they make a variety

739
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: of options. I mean there's really it's kind of overwhelming,

740
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: actually all the different options, um, whether it's from a

741
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: T two I, T three I or the T four I. Now, um,

742
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: those are all kind of under the rebel name, I believe,

743
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: and those cameras can all be purchased for you know,

744
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: in the six six hundred dollars range and under even

745
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: so UM, those are great, great starter cameras we shoot primarily, uh,

746
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: when we're talking about dslrstue primarily with the five D

747
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: Mark three, which is a little more pricey. Um, it's

748
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: a couple of thousand dollars UM and it's a full

749
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: frame camera, but it's not it's not necessarily like a

750
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: necessity for anybody. Um that's just kind of getting started

751
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: or whatever. So there there's tons of different just a

752
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: fit different price points. UM. And like I said, they're

753
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: always coming out with new stuff. It seems like every

754
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: other year they come out with a new camera and

755
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: it's a little constantly upgrading and changes stuff and buy

756
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: new limbs and evolving beasts every every year season. Just

757
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: use your your iPhone six with the filter at you, yeah,

758
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: and shoot. Cell Phone technologies coming a long way to right.

759
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: They all the mounting brackets for your bowe. You can

760
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: not your phone in your bone and film with it.

761
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: You know, when when Sean I first got started filming's

762
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: just messing around for fun. I duct taped the Sony

763
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: Hendy can to my stabilizer and was shooting stuff back

764
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: in the back in the early days in high school.

765
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, it's funny. When I killed my elk

766
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: a few weeks back, I took photos with a DSLR

767
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: and my iPhone, and I think I actually like my

768
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: iPhone pictures better. So I don't know if that's saying

769
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: something for the camera or saying something about how badly

770
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: I used the DSLR, but the camera manufacturers, because the

771
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: cell phone technology is really really good and it's much

772
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: easier to use, I think, especially for the everyday consumer,

773
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: and it's replacing a lot of those cameras. I'm sure. Yeah,

774
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: it really is. Um Although you know, like you guys

775
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: have talked about the manual functions and features that you

776
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: can really take advantage of the DSLR if you know

777
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: how to use them. Um, they can make a huge difference.

778
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: And uh, I know when I finally upgrade to a DSLR, UM,

779
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: partly based on one of your recommendations a number of

780
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: years back, I got the cannon. I think it's the

781
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: sixty d UM and love that camera. Um gosh, does

782
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: make a huge difference in the stuff you can the

783
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: pictures you can capture. UM. But one of the I

784
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: think parts of using a DSLR that maybe intimidous people

785
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: is the fact that you have to use different lenses. UM.

786
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: Could maybe you know, Sean, maybe could you tell us

787
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: a little bit about you know, what someone needs to

788
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: consider when it comes to picking a lens. Um and

789
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: is there any recommendation. Can someone get one lens to

790
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: do it all for the average hunter or do you

791
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: really need to have several? Um? I think it helps

792
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: you have to Um, there's a there's a twenty one

793
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: twine sorry, twenty four to one oh five is out

794
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: that does a pretty good job. UM. But I think

795
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: if you if you're I guess if you were just

796
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: gonna go the more inexpensive route and didn't care so

797
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: much about your glass. You could go with a tan

798
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: ra on lens. And what is that one like that

799
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: we have? Yes, that's the lens I mentioned there. It's

800
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: a eighteen to two seventy and signal makes the eighteen

801
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: to two fifty um. And so those lenses, like if

802
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: you guys all the time, if you're gonna buy one

803
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: DSLR and one lens um, you could spend about twelve

804
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: hundred bucks and get a pretty solid set up. And um,

805
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: you know it's it's not then I'm a livable quality

806
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: glass and it's not the best little like capability, but um,

807
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: you know it will work. You just gotta. It's just

808
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: like I think there's no perfect lens. So you know,

809
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: you you give up something to gain something else. So

810
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: you give up a little bit of little like capability

811
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: and to gain versatility, or you give up a versatility

812
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: to gain little like capability and you go with the

813
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: with the fixed lens or uh, you know, a prime

814
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: it's going to be like a two point eight or

815
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: one point four at one point six, at one point eight,

816
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: I mean the really really good little hite lenses yeah,

817
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: that some of those can make a big difference. UM.

818
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: And that kind of ties in real nicely with the

819
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: next thing I wanted to pick your brain about. Um,

820
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: you don't make for a guy that's got his first

821
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: DSLR and he's trying and take some good pictures, there's

822
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: a lot of settings to be mindful of. Um. What

823
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: are you know the one or two a couple of

824
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: most important manual settings that a guy really needs to

825
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: nail down to to utilize the DSLR propertly. Could you

826
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: tell suppose would be Well, there's um, there's the hope.

827
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: There's several different things. There's there's gonna be your white balance, um,

828
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: which is your your color temperature. UM. This precepts on

829
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: the camera which do really well, so you just kind

830
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: of paper whichever looks good. There's ones are cloudy, shade, sunny, incandescent, fluorescent,

831
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: different color temperatures. UM. And so that's that's an important

832
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: to you, don't you know you want to be uh

833
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: you wanna even are manually setting your white balances that way,

834
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: it's not automatically changing all the time. UM. And that's

835
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: something that a camera has trouble doing in auto. So

836
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: UM that that's one setting. Then you have several things

837
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: that the folks that affect your exposure. Um. And that's

838
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: your F stop for your aperture or your iris, and

839
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: that's what you see all the on all DSLR lenses

840
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: they have a f F rating. So um, you know

841
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: that the better lenses, the higher quality lenses, they're gonna

842
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: be a fixed uh fixed F stop and gonna be

843
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: like a two point eight or less typically. Um you

844
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: get into the the camera and the stigma of the

845
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: eighteen to two fifty eighteen to two semi lends those

846
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: for like three point five two five points six Christians

847
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: of my graph so um, you know, the more usual men,

848
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: the the further clothes down the iris kids, and that

849
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: what allows less light and which means you know, not

850
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: as good blue of light. So um. So you have

851
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: your F stop, then you have your shutter speed, and

852
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: then you have your I S O U. And those

853
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: are the three things that affect your exposure. Um. And

854
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: so getting kuncomfortable with those is this key. I mean,

855
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: like I said, it's kind of overwhelming at first if

856
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: you look at it and try to dive into it,

857
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: But the more you use it, the more you get

858
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: comfortable with it. Um, the better off food you'll be.

859
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: And with the shutter speed, you know, you simically will

860
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: just use that too to adjust for your exposure to

861
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: once you have your caperture set to where you want it.

862
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: And then I s O is is and more too.

863
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: Like a video camera, they have the same thing. It's

864
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: called gain um and all. It is a digital light enhancement.

865
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: So it's just you know, once once it's getting dark

866
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: and there's not you know, not much visibility of the

867
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: camera and you need to need to brighten things up

868
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. It adds this little white pixels basically

869
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: to be to the image and it makes it appear brighter,

870
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: but it also decreases in the quality. So um, that's

871
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: kind of the last bitch resort and you want to

872
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: you want to mess all the other settings and open

873
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: your camera, you know, why don't before you start thinking

874
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: of that awesome? Yeah that, like you said, it can

875
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: be a little bit intimidating for it's a little overwhelming,

876
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: but I think once you nail those couple items down,

877
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: those are the same things that I obviously have focused

878
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: on two And once you have your your head wrapped

879
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: around that, it really opens up the world's possibilities of

880
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: those cameras. So one of the final things I think

881
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: that's pretty important to talk about when it comes to

882
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: photography is you know, not just the gear, but you know,

883
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: once you get a deer, how do you pose that deer?

884
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: How do you set up a photograp f to get

885
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: a quality hero shot or trophy shot, whatever you want

886
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: to call it. Um you know, so many people in

887
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: the past, there's the dead buck in the back of

888
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: a truck picture that we've seen a million times, and

889
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: that's kind of, um, kind of outdated. I think in

890
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: my mind, I think today a lot more people are

891
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: starting to care about capturing these photos in a in

892
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: a way that I think respects that deer in that memory.

893
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: Um So, maybe Sean, could you tell us a little

894
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: bit about your advice for for properly framing and setting

895
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: up and posing a deer and hunter and everything for

896
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: for quality photo. Yeah, I think I think it's a

897
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: very very important tool to have, um or at least

898
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: something to show it's very respectful for for the game

899
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: that you've killed. But umfore, like han Him, I think

900
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: you should you should definitely prop their legs up like

901
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: their bed and basically on the ground, not in the truck.

902
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: And typically what I like to do is play some

903
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: in the environment where where I shot him at really

904
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: or to have something in the background that kind of

905
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: shows where I'm at, um, whether it be a mountain

906
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: or in the timber in the trees. And then lighting

907
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: is extremely important. We typically always wait. If if we

908
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: shot something in the middle of the day, we'll wait.

909
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: We'll obviously got the animal, we will wait until the

910
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: lighting is better, um later on in the evening. UM.

911
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: And if we shot them in the dark, sometimes we'll

912
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: we'll get them and wait until the morning to take

913
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: some good pictures. UM. But yeah, you want to frame

914
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: it up right, which is uh, be a little bit

915
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: of headroom for the deer in the animal at the

916
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: top of your frame, and then get the most, if

917
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: not the entire animal, most of the animal in the

918
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: frame as well, UM in the hunter behind the deer,

919
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: and make sure that you could see all the times. UM.

920
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: That's something that I think people don't pay a lot

921
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: of attention to is if some times were cut out

922
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: just based off the angle. You just got to try

923
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 1: to find the best thing that you can't and something

924
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: that I was kind of taught from the get go

925
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: was either have most of the rack above the horizon

926
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: or all the rack below the horizon, so the horizon

927
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: doesn't mess with whatever you're seeing. UM, And I'm trying

928
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: to think of anything else we have. We have a

929
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: light reflector or a light bounce that we use sometimes

930
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: and that helps out a lot too. So if you

931
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: have light, if the if the animals back lit, which

932
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: which means the sun be shining from the back of

933
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: the animal towards the camera, we use a light bounce

934
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: to bounce the light back to the hunter any animal,

935
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: so you have a really good exposure. UM. Trying to

936
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: think if there's anything else. Can you think of anything else, Mike? Um?

937
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: You know, lighting is is huge to um. Like Jean

938
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: was saying about the light bown stuff. Time of day

939
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: when you set photos, we we always try to um,

940
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, credit try to get the best lining in

941
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: a game possible. You know, if you're shooting during the

942
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: middle of the day, late late morning, early afternoon, middle

943
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: of the day, the shadows are terrible. You know, a

944
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: real sunny bright it's not a harsh light. UM. So

945
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: that's something the Bagadine do too. When you want if

946
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: you want to get a really quality Yota. Yeah, definitely.

947
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: So so is that you mentioned. If the sun is

948
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: back letting the animal, you might want to use a reflector.

949
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: But typically if someone has the option of you know,

950
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: manipulating where he's setting up the deer and everything and

951
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: where he's gonna photograph, would you prefer to have the

952
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: sun over the cameraman's shoulder? Now? I like it back

953
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: lit typically. Um. I can't even really give you the

954
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: technological answer as to why I'm not like, I'm not

955
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: like tech savvy on my photography. I just know what

956
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: looks good and what I've seen. Um, I've just always

957
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: known that a back lit lit subject always looks better. Um.

958
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,479
Speaker 1: And if if you don't have it, if you don't

959
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: have the resource, since for um, a light bouncer reflector,

960
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: just expose it the best that you can. But a

961
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: back lit subject typically looks the best. But anybody can

962
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: afford our reflector. You can go buy a fifteen dollar

963
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: where they have like a car sheet or whatever those

964
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: are called, like a people put in their windshield. Yeah,

965
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: just keep the sun from rude in their sheets. Yeah yeah,

966
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: And you can buy those from fifteen dollars from Walmart

967
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: and they actually work fairly well better than nothing. So

968
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: that man, you can use ten fool. Yeah, yeah, just

969
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 1: stressing fool now, Yeah, I think I think uh from

970
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: like Sean said, he prefers, you know, to shoot stuff

971
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,959
Speaker 1: with the with the light, a little bit different angles stuff.

972
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: But I think for the the amateur guys, the guy

973
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: that just get the start, I mean they shoot with

974
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: the sun at their back is going to be the

975
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: the They're going to get the best results that way.

976
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: You know, if you're shooting other way, it just makes it.

977
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's a little more pretical. Make a little one.

978
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: It's cool, gotcha. Now for the guy that can't wait

979
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: till the morning he shot his deer, he finds it

980
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: at two in the morning, he really want to get

981
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: a photo. You see so many horrible night photos. I

982
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: know sometimes you guys do take I think you guys

983
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: have sometimes taken some night photos. To Mike, do you

984
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: have any tips for someone you know to make the

985
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: best out of a night photograph. Yeah, I would use headlights.

986
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm just didn't um I was gonna say we put

987
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: him in the head lights yet, I'm just kidding. We

988
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: actually that in that North Dakota buff we used. We

989
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: recovered him in the dark, so we used UM. We

990
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: have bat lights, which are camera lights that we put

991
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: on top of our cameras for any time or filming

992
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: at nighttime or whatever, and we we happen to have

993
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: three of them there and we just moved the lights

994
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: around until we thought it looked the best, and that's

995
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: how we took the pictures. But for somebody, for someone

996
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna take night pictures, I I would recommend getting

997
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: as many light sources as you can and hope that

998
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: the color temperatures are the same, because if the color

999
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: temperature aren't the same, it's gonna look kind of funny. Um,

1000
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: it's just tough. Nighttime pictures are tough. They can look

1001
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: really good if went properly. But there there's they're a

1002
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: little bit tough. But pretty much most of UH, most

1003
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: of the the point and shoot cammers nowadays that they

1004
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: offer have very good flashes, and I would trust that

1005
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: pretty well. They're they're not that they don't look very

1006
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: bad at all. Really, anything else you'd use, say, Mike, um, Yeah,

1007
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean we use UH on the five V mark

1008
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: treat is not a built in flash. UM and obviously

1009
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: a video lights as well. He's a cheap just to

1010
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: uh led video camera light that we you can buy

1011
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: on Amazon for like thirty bucks. Um, and that light

1012
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: is this is really really powerful and worse really well,

1013
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: So lighting is the key at night time if you

1014
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: want to do a good nighttime photo. I don't I

1015
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: don't mind nine times but photos per photos, it doesn't

1016
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't shy away from it.

1017
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you shoot him at night and

1018
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: recover him at night. You know, you gotta get them

1019
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: taking care of you, gotta get them get in and

1020
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: butch heard and all that stuff. So, UM, I don't

1021
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: you know, I don't mind it at all. Uh, it's

1022
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: just gonna lighting the key, like shant it? Okay, good deal.

1023
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: Well this is uh, this is some really good information

1024
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: I think for anyone who's about to start their hunting

1025
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: season or who just has started, and hopefully we'll be

1026
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: tagging a buck here pretty soon. I think people will

1027
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: be able to use this advice right away to h

1028
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: to capture some some pretty cool memories. So this is

1029
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: great and we're coming up here on time. So before

1030
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: we wrap things up, Dan, is there anything else you

1031
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: would like to grill Mike or Sean about before we

1032
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: bring this into a close. Yeah. I don't know if

1033
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: this is a touchy subject or not. I know what

1034
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: kind of you know cameras you guys are using. I

1035
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: think you've mentioned U you guys made the jump to

1036
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: four K yet Yeah, yeah, not not, um some of

1037
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: our I mean we we have a team of I

1038
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: think eight guys, eight or nine guys, and so it's

1039
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: not something that we can provide everyone with us. Um

1040
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: but as far as uh, as far as us, we

1041
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: we shoot a lot of stuff with with the Red Ethic,

1042
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: and we'll shooting four K and stuff like that. Um.

1043
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: But and we also have FS seven hundreds with four

1044
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: K recorders that we don't have fully said up yet.

1045
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, we we are shooting. We're starting to

1046
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: shoot some four K. So so with that said, yeah,

1047
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: the Outdoor Channel, what your show is on, They're not

1048
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: h D yet, right right, So that is my biggest

1049
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: pet peeve is who do I need to talk to

1050
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: at the Outdoor Channel? Yeah, what do you mean not

1051
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: h D yet? Oh yeah, maybe on your provider. Yeah,

1052
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: they're h D. They're in the majority of in the

1053
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: majority of the networks. But so and so then it

1054
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: would be the provider then that is not HD for

1055
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: that channel, right, yeah, obviously channel how the HDC, but

1056
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: the UM I'm not sure with all the uh the

1057
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: technical you know, specifics about that. How why they're why like, uh,

1058
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: Trump has you know, dreft TV and you don't. He

1059
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: doesn't get it. Yeah, have direct TV? Is that what

1060
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: you have? Dan? Yeah, that's what I got. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if it's their agreement with direft

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Speaker 1: to or how that exactly works, but it's pretty annoying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I understand, and I have a really good TV so,

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Speaker 1: you know, switching between the Sportsmen's channel and the outdoor channel,

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Speaker 1: there's a huge difference. And I just you know, I

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Speaker 1: have to go to uh go online to see some

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Speaker 1: of your guys how how actually good your footage is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's something that Mike's always kind of haunted about.

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Speaker 1: Is UM shoot in four K? It really doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: if yeah, if you're not watching h right right. So

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Speaker 1: just it's just like it's just like the h D phase.

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Speaker 1: I mean everybody when HD you know, first came out,

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Speaker 1: everybody was kind of you know, slowly catching onto it,

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Speaker 1: and they came out with the first couple of HD cameras,

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Speaker 1: the first httvs and everything practicing through the roof and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, but eventually it got there and that's where

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Speaker 1: we're headed, you know, the the it's definitely head of

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Speaker 1: the four k you know, there's four KTVs now they

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Speaker 1: cost ten grand. But that's the direction that's headed though,

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Speaker 1: for sure. So it'll just be there with it will

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Speaker 1: be there with time, you know. Yeah. So, speaking of

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Speaker 1: watching your shows online, I saw something about a new

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Speaker 1: series you guys are launching called but believe it's called

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Speaker 1: Behind the Draw. Can you guys tell us a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about what that's all about. Yeah, we uh

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Speaker 1: we partnered with Carbon TV, who is they are online

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00:57:55,640 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: network that they're available online and through smart TVs, um too,

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00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: Roku boxes, etcetera. Um, and they're really taking an aggressive,

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Speaker 1: aggressive charge at the online market as far as the

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Speaker 1: outdoor and Hunting TV is concerned. Um. We partner within

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Speaker 1: the Spring and did a did a mini series called

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Speaker 1: Full Strut and we uh produced six or seven original

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00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: Turkey episodes and it was a real, real big success.

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Speaker 1: So we're continuing that partnership. We're coming out with a

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Speaker 1: new mini series, All Behind the Draw will produce six

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Speaker 1: or six episodes. They will be focused on deer hunting,

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Speaker 1: so I'm it'll be a real similar format too in

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Speaker 1: style to our show. Um in a webisode versions. It

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Speaker 1: will be a little bit shorter, um, but they should

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Speaker 1: be should be really cool, really exciting. And then that's

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Speaker 1: started about it is it's free and it's online, you

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Speaker 1: can watching whenever you want. That's awesome. Now are these

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Speaker 1: hunts that are gonna be shown on that on that series?

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Speaker 1: Are these hunts that are not going to be shown

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Speaker 1: your TV show? Or are you going to be showing

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Speaker 1: the same things but different or no, they'll be different,

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Speaker 1: different hunts. So um, onto the I've never been team before?

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Speaker 1: Very cool, very cool. And people can find this at

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Speaker 1: is a carbon tv dot com or carbon dot tv

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Speaker 1: or what does they grow? Yep, carbon tv dot com?

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Speaker 1: Awesome And I think I saw it launches October seven?

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Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? The first episode premieres October seven.

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Speaker 1: Then it will be weekly every Tuesday from from then

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Speaker 1: on out. Very cool. So I'm not going to get

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Speaker 1: any work done now exactly. That's all. Yeah. Well that's awesome. Um. Now,

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Speaker 1: for any of our listeners who want to learn more

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00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: about Hartland Bow Hunter, UM get any more information about

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00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: air times and whatnot, where can they go? Our website

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00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: and our Facebook page are const the main places. Hard

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Speaker 1: Lower dot com and then Facebook dot com slash Heartland

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Speaker 1: Bow one of those, UM we do. We share a

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00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: lot of stuff on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram, and

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Speaker 1: so we're pretty active on the social media side of things,

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Speaker 1: so we're on them all perfect. Well. I will make

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Speaker 1: sure to get those links on this blog post when

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Speaker 1: we launched the podcast. And I gotta say this has

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Speaker 1: been awesome, guys. Thank you so much for the time, um,

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Speaker 1: for sharing so much of your expertise and your advice

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Speaker 1: on all these topics. I think all of our listeners

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Speaker 1: got a lot out of this, and me and Dan,

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Speaker 1: I know, we certainly enjoyed the conversation too, So thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank all right, thanks guys, thanks for having us. Good

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Speaker 1: luck the rest of the season, guys, Thank you bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Now are you all right? Well, that was a pretty

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Speaker 1: awesome conversation, and I'd say we're all better prepared now

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Speaker 1: to film or photograph our two thousand fourteen hunts. And

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Speaker 1: I'd say We're just in time too, as so many

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Speaker 1: folks will be heading out for their first hunts of

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Speaker 1: the year this weekend. That said, last week, we launched

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Speaker 1: a little contest to help promote the podcast, and we

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Speaker 1: asked you to post a short review of the podcast

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01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: on Facebook or message board and then send a screenshot

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01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: of that back to us, and dozens of you did that,

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Speaker 1: and wow, we really appreciate it. All of you helping

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01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: spread the word this week made a big difference, and

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Speaker 1: we actually made it all the way up to the

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Speaker 1: number two ranked outdoors podcast on iTunes. That's a big deal,

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for your support, and we

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Speaker 1: hope you'll continue to help us spread the word throughout

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Speaker 1: the hunting season. It means the world. Now though, it's

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Speaker 1: time for us to announce the winner of the contest

1152
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: and the proud new owner of a Trophy Ridge static stabilizer,

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01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: a pack of Carbon Express Leaden knocks, and a Wired

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Speaker 1: to Hunt hat, and that winner is Shane Belt. Congrat Shane,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for participating. We really really appreciate it. Now,

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Speaker 1: as always, if you've been enjoying the podcast, we would

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01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: greatly appreciate it if you could leave us a rating

1158
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: or review on iTunes. We mentioned it every week, but

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Speaker 1: only because it means so much. Thank you, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you to all of you who have taken a

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Speaker 1: time to leave a review. Speaking of appreciation, we'd like

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Speaker 1: to thank our partners who helped make this show possible.

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Speaker 1: Big thanks to Sick of Gear, Trophy, Ridge, Bear Archery,

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Speaker 1: Red Nick Blinds, Carbon Express, Arrows, Hunts, Soft Lacrosse, Boots,

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Speaker 1: Big and J Longrange Attractives in the Whitetail Institute of

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Speaker 1: North America. Finally, be sure to visit Weird to Hunt

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Speaker 1: dot com slash episode to view the show notes and

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Speaker 1: links from today's episode that said, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for being here. Listen today until next week. Good luck hunting.

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Speaker 1: Let's stay Weird to Hunt.