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Speaker 1: Be Around the Podcast looks better than Gronk and a

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Speaker 1: turtle knack. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Gregg Rosenthal, and I am

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Speaker 1: here in a room over stuffed with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and back in the studio. Patrick, Yes, it

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Speaker 1: must be the all season baby. I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: say it. I didn't want to say it because it's

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Speaker 1: not really it's not right. It's not fair that that

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Speaker 1: in first things that aren't true, Patrick Clayband. But Dan

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Speaker 1: Hansis are our great host is with his family um

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Speaker 1: near the coal mines right now. And uh, who would

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Speaker 1: we who would we ask first, you know, for the

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Speaker 1: first you know, to kick off the off season. And

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Speaker 1: Patrick Claiban, Well, I mean the joke would be that

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Speaker 1: you would ask several people. Now we didn't. We didn't.

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Speaker 1: We haven't had you in the studio since you've been,

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Speaker 1: you know, rocking a very thick dark beard. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of you have a new look and it's going

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Speaker 1: very well for you, and people seeing you on television

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Speaker 1: can't help a comment when they observe. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it's because I was so boring probably before and and

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Speaker 1: that's why, and that was the inspiration. It was like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm nearly invisible and so um, I didn't shave out

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Speaker 1: of sheer laziness and just a h I was in

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Speaker 1: a dark place. Wow, you feel seen? Yeah, I feel seen.

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Speaker 1: I see why people like do things and wear fancy

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Speaker 1: heard someone say about a relatively prominent person. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to say who, um that wears a mustache, and uh,

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Speaker 1: like people that have mustaches they don't have anything else

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Speaker 1: Like they're ultimately hiding, um an empty vessel in We're

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Speaker 1: not talking like nine or something to read inch, but

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Speaker 1: what facial hair mean. Don't you guys feel better? Mark

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Speaker 1: and West like no, right now? Then like week, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's just in Monday? Even Yeah, it's night and day.

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Speaker 1: mean feel better, like not like a weights off our shoulders.

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Speaker 1: But it's just like suddenly you're just in this other

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Speaker 1: wasn't the case a week ago. We've talked about this

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Speaker 1: We have a lot. Come on. I am a better

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Speaker 1: human being. I'm a better husband, I'm a better friend,

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Speaker 1: the off season, I think I might be the exact same.

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Speaker 1: lot right now. That's sure you get better parking. That's tangible.

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Speaker 1: When when you have a position like I do here,

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Speaker 1: Dan and I for the first time ever, we did

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Speaker 1: for the amount of money is making. And he has

428
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Speaker 1: a guaranteed eight million dollars seven point five five million

429
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Speaker 1: dollar roster bonus landing on March twenty. And I would

430
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Speaker 1: imagine with the immense money tied up with him over,

431
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: it's not just a year or two down the road,

432
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Speaker 1: deep down the road that they do you restructure are

433
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 1: you angling to try to convince gurly that this like

434
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: are you gonna cut him? You cut him? And it's

435
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 1: it's it is a wild cap hit. It doesn't seem

436
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: like it would make any sense to cut him because

437
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 1: you would just be paying as much money to cut him,

438
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: if not more, I think more so. It's not status

439
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: quo though you don't talk to that, but it's this

440
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: whole thing of like they he is this, you know,

441
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: a superstar. He's been important to them, and there's the

442
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: health aspect that you know, the usage, which he wasn't

443
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: thrilled about it something I don't There's a lot going

444
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Speaker 1: on there, but I don't know what options they really have.

445
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: I feel like they don't have any options. Well why

446
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: talk What are they talking to him about? Right? That's

447
00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, right, Well it's about they said, his future

448
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: and his status with the team. So it would that

449
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 1: would indicate that his status with the team is not guaranteed,

450
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 1: which is weird considering where we came from, um, where

451
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: we were in that run to the super Bowl where

452
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: he was hurt. I mean we we could see clearly

453
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: he was hurt and he was still playing through it,

454
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem like he's he's recovered from that sense,

455
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: because someone could talk to less sneat about some of

456
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: the contracts being handed out by the Rams in general.

457
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: There are some some numbers around certain players that are hamstring.

458
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: You know, I know, I get I get it. If

459
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: the cap is bigger than the planet Jupiter this point,

460
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: just pay everyone everything. But this contract stands out as

461
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Speaker 1: messy girls does. I have no problem really with the

462
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Speaker 1: goff one. And so that's the only one that I

463
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: think the Girls on time when they extended Tavon Austin

464
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: for doing literally nothing other than underperforming and being over drafted,

465
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: they were just like they needed a little juice for

466
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: that season of Hard Knocks that was kind of a snooze.

467
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Speaker 1: That was before things were going great exactly. We're just

468
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Speaker 1: saying there is a history of over pain, like you

469
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: have a nice year and then bang, you get overpaid.

470
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Speaker 1: I know we're not supposed to say anything about the

471
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Speaker 1: Rams on this show, so I will curtail my thoughts.

472
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Speaker 1: That is like in your head, you can know it's

473
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Speaker 1: not We've said whatever you want. You can say whatever

474
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: you want. So after a budget backs got paid, are

475
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: we right back to where we were that running back

476
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't get paid anymore. I think I think even farther. Yeah,

477
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: not that they shouldn't, but that it might be tough

478
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Speaker 1: for him too. I don't think he's getting a Todd

479
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: Gurley type of contract, which is what he indicated he

480
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Speaker 1: would want. Well, if you read into his interview with

481
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Speaker 1: Rich Eyes and he missed understood what Eisen was saying

482
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: about Zeke Elliott being the floor, he thought, he thought Eisen,

483
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Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott has the floor right now, like he has

484
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Speaker 1: the floor. He's the running back who has all the money. Um,

485
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: But I don't think Derrick Henry is gonna get near

486
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Speaker 1: with Zeke Elliott cut. There's just there's gotta be a

487
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: carve out in the CBA or something specifically for running

488
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: backs in terms of the way that they're paid. You

489
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: come in as a rookie, you can get run into

490
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Speaker 1: the ground and you will never get another opportunity. I'm

491
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: not as different than any other position. It is it

492
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: is sort of unfair that the best parts of their

493
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: career are while they're not getting paid. You know that much.

494
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Speaker 1: And uh, I think they went too far with the

495
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Speaker 1: rookie wade scale last time. I mean, everyone was saying

496
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: how it's been. It's like great for the NFL, and

497
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: rookies kind of got I mean rookies thought like, there's

498
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: so many players that are so underpaid, and the teams

499
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: actually aren't spending that cap space anyways, they're just saving

500
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Speaker 1: it or they're giving it to mid level veterans, and

501
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: and a lot of these rookies, especially if they're a

502
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: first rounder, they only you know, it's like Patrick Mahomes

503
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Speaker 1: in theory. I mean he's a different case, but in

504
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: theory he's like under contract for two million dollars next year. Well,

505
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Speaker 1: it's great because it wiped out us having to track

506
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: super tedious part good, but I think they went a

507
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Speaker 1: little too far where the rookies are under paid. You've

508
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: mentioned mid little bit, mid level veterans, but they're right

509
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Speaker 1: there beside. Running Back says the other the other group

510
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Speaker 1: that gets hurt by this c B A um, your

511
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: guys when you can take a shot draft some guys

512
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Speaker 1: that you don't have to pay for four years. I

513
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: agree that that should be something that the NFL p

514
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: A should be actively working to fix, helping the mid

515
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: level veterans. You know who you know who is getting

516
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: paid at least for another extra couple of years. Anthony

517
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 1: Lynn the Chargers UH head coach contract extension kind of

518
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: slipped out there. It's one of those vague ones where

519
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: it's says at least so it might have been just

520
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: getting one year tacked on to his previous deal. We

521
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: don't know the details of it, but either way, he's

522
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: they're moving into the stadium. UH given Anthony Lynn a

523
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: little vote of confidence, which I think I think, Um,

524
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: it was important because you weren't quite totally sure where

525
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: his status was, and I think you're seeing with Rivers

526
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: gone in Florida and likely gone for good and Anthony

527
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: Lynn staying like that, that was a pretty clear message,

528
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Speaker 1: I think from from their ownership. I know you're an

529
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Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn fan. Clay, Yeah, I think Coach Lynn is

530
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Speaker 1: honest with us, and that's what I enjoy. When you

531
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Speaker 1: have a coach that will answer questions. It doesn't feel

532
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: like he has to mind trick you or run through

533
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: platitudes exclusively. And um, I'm excited for what the the

534
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: the Lynn vision of the cold of the of the

535
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: Chargers is, um because I don't I'm not sure we've

536
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: seen it here. It might be Tyrode start in Week one.

537
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: But I really hope now that I've gotten this totally speculative,

538
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: irresponsible idea into my head, I'm really gonna run it

539
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: into the ground as much as I can. I'm totally

540
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: into the Cam Newton Chargers week one. Forget getting trying

541
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: to get Tom Brady. You're gonna have a forty three

542
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: year old for one year or whatever. Like they are

543
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: the team that should just give up a little too

544
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: much for Cam Newton and take a huge risk. You're

545
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are impossible to get. You're not gonna get one

546
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: without taking a huge risk. I would rather take one

547
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: on Cam Newton then take one on whoever you're gonna

548
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: get with number six or figuring out, you know, let's

549
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: make Tyrod work or whatever. I'll do respect to Tyrod

550
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: Cam Newton as a Los Angeles charge or open in

551
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: that stadium. There's some juice. Yeah. I think one thing

552
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: happening here reading like what Tom Talesco had to say

553
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: is that the GM likes to coach. They get along

554
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: really well, and so you don't just blow that up.

555
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: And also, this is a team in a particularly unusual

556
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: situation compared to any other team in the league. You're

557
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: gonna need buy in from your coach to go into

558
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: a stadium where you're probably going to have thousand fans

559
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: and maybe twenty five thousand empty seats and forty thousand

560
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: visiting fans or whatever. I don't know that that adds

561
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: up to more seats that are in that stadium, But

562
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's if if Land wants in and he's

563
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: and he's bought into this project, Like you don't jump ship, right,

564
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: and it's good stability to Laska has been there since

565
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: For a team that is kind of all over the

566
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: place in terms of where they're playing and everything like that,

567
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: they actually have a lot of stability. They're on a

568
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: collision course with apathy, so they need to do something.

569
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: They have a talented team, though, right, who cares if

570
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: they win or lose? Literally, well, the National they don't

571
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: have fans manage of NFL fans care whether the Charges

572
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: win or lose. Right, this ship their fan base and

573
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: this is the result by far less than any other

574
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: fan base. This bomb that Greg has planted in my

575
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: brain and I guess everybody that's listening now, Yeah, it's

576
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: it's unstoppable. It's in there and here's the thing. I

577
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: think the Panthers should keep Cam, and my guess is

578
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: they will if I had to guess, because he sort

579
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: of fits what they would you would think would want

580
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: to do. But what they had the Panthers have made it.

581
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: They have not made any statement whatsoever that like Cam's

582
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: our guy, and until they do it kind of makes you,

583
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: you know, think that they would listen at least and

584
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: I you would think that they would listen to an

585
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: aggressive offer. They punted on Greg Olsens so fast. That's right. Well,

586
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: this will be the time of year where like a

587
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: new coaching staff is looking at for the first time,

588
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: so they may not have a decision, right, that's fair.

589
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: Kickly has gone, Olsen has gone, Thomas Davis has been

590
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: gone for a little while. It's it's a different Panthers organization.

591
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: Let's before we move on to a little afternoon delight

592
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: quickly go over um, just the awards. Maybe this is unnecessary, West,

593
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: What do you think Am I doing a good job

594
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: putting together the show? Even throwing awards talk into it.

595
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: I just feel like we talk awards a lot during

596
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: the season, and then the m v P was given out.

597
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson unanimous UM Coach of the Year was given out.

598
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh had about double the votes of Kyle Shanahan.

599
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: I think they made the right call. That would have

600
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: been my one two in that order as well. Uh.

601
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: And then we question you like I'm getting to it,

602
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: and then we get to uh, Greg's looking for a

603
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: mid show grade. Yeah, we get to uh, you know

604
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: it actually happening. We don't have anything to say about it?

605
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: Or we should we talk about it? That's my question.

606
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: You lost me somewhere along the way. Are you asking

607
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: me how you're doing or whether I'm asking if we

608
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: needed to put this into the show or not. The

609
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: award Kyler Murray Offensive Rookie of the Year, for instance,

610
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: that might be the only one that I would quibble with.

611
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: While I'm very happy for the Arizona Cardinals that Kyler

612
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: Murray is the quarterback and he was exciting to watch,

613
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: he was not one of the top half of quarterbacks

614
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: in the league. And Josh Jacobs for a long time

615
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: was one of the top six or seven running backs

616
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He was a difference maker as far

617
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: as wins and losses and carrying that team for a while.

618
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: I would have given it to him. I looked the

619
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: rest of the list and I I mean not that

620
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: this would this stuff would keep me up at night

621
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: to begin with. But I didn't have a single complaint

622
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: because I feel like talking about what day did you

623
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: look at this list? Oh? It was today? No, but

624
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: I heard little whispers, you know, like as we were

625
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: traveling around they did. They did a good job with

626
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill has come back because I think we always

627
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: agreed that that award is so murky. But his story,

628
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: to me is a comeback story because he's completely changed

629
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: his earning ability and what we think about. I would

630
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: have liked Aaron Waller, but i'll that works to accept

631
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: that works too. It seemed to me because like Manny

632
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: Sanders towards Achilles at fair end of the season and

633
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: then he comes back plays were regular season games than

634
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: anybody because of the mid season trade, makes his way

635
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Um, I get the Tannehill had

636
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: to come back and change an entire organization. I just, uh, well,

637
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: how about we do a comeback player of the roster

638
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: and we just get one for every position, because it

639
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: seems like this one one position where or one award

640
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: where there are a lot of candidates there were There

641
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: were a lot this year. Wilder got some Sanders did

642
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: I think, get a few votes, but he was pretty

643
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: far below. I was a little surprised about Stefon Gilmour

644
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: winning going away Defensive Player of the Year. I like

645
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: the methodology there because to me, it seemed like it

646
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: was almost like a defensive Heisman, and that he was

647
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: the most outstanding defensive player at his position, and the

648
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: other guys, all the defensive lineman, they were kind of

649
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: a log jam. Chandler Jones came in second in the voting.

650
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: That surprised me that he finished with more votes than

651
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: t J. And then Watt was about a vote or

652
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: two behind Jones. It was relatively close. But are people

653
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: not watching t J Watt? I mean, how does I

654
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: That's what I think. People are looking at sack totals

655
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: and I hate that because sack totals just don't tell

656
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: us enough. I think, Um, maybe people have made the

657
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: decision early too. Because Davante Parker torched Stefan Gilmore at

658
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: the end of the season. Well that's what I thought.

659
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: He was maybe gotta lose the award just because of

660
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: that one game. Um, but it did not happen that way,

661
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: So shout out to us Stefan Gilmore, a good job

662
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: by him, big winner the Ravens getting both coordinators back

663
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: next year. We seemed like one of them, if not both,

664
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: might be gone. Yeah, that's that's true. I'm looking I mean,

665
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: they're like, I wouldn't want to mess with anything with

666
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: that team. I'm looking forward to watching them. Also on

667
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Saturday night, while they were giving out the awards, uh,

668
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: they did announce the new Hall of Fame class, headlined

669
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: by Troy Paula malo Um. What do we think about

670
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: this class? Eduard James gets in, Uh, Isaac Bruce gets in?

671
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: Who am I forget? Steve Hutchinson gets in and then

672
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: who's the last one? Five? Well, you named them, Steve Attwater,

673
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: you named you hit all? The is the five known?

674
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: Want any any hot takes out of this clay this

675
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: it's not super hot. I mean you made a good

676
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: point about Tory holt Um being the guy that you

677
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: thought about on that ramp seam, and I think he

678
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: gets in and when you look back, like all of

679
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: these multiple super Bowl playing teams, not that they won

680
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: multiple super Bowls, but it seems like the eventually most

681
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: of the good players on the roster get in. It

682
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: suddenly seems like next year, though, is really loaded, and

683
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: it starts getting more loaded after that, where it's gotta

684
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: it's like Megatron and Peyton Manning a couple other guys

685
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: were like every year. Now it seems like there's some

686
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: big names jumping in, and it's people we covered and

687
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: grew up with and lived with. Isaac Bruce. It's more

688
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: of a sign of our increasing march towards death. I

689
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: hate to, you know, you don't like to discount a

690
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: guy who just made the Hall of Fame. But I

691
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: don't know. People watching Isaac Bruce during his career, I

692
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I like, at no point was he considered

693
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: the better receiver compared to Tory Holt and and uh,

694
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought he was the top five receiver.

695
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: I think Richard Seymour an Tony Basselli, who have been

696
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: in the top ten now, which means they got close

697
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: to getting in. We'll get in eventually, and I think

698
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: they deserve it. Seymour was easily the best defensive player

699
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: that that played for those Patriots teams, and I think

700
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: Basselli I'd rather have that like dominance guy that has

701
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: a little shorter shelf life. My one question is I

702
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: love Paula Maldo getting in right away as he deserved that.

703
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: There's just no drama around that. We knew that would happen.

704
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: But Steve Atwater. I feel like I've seen like thirty

705
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: five NFL films about Steve Atwater and like the hardest

706
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: hitting safety and Broncos anchor, and he retired before the

707
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: turn of the century. It's like, why does it take

708
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: so long for some of these guys to get it?

709
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: Why now? Why now is there a push for I'm

710
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: glad he's in. I thought I already thought would have

711
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: thought this could have happened a decade ago. I think

712
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: it's like politics and timing. It's sometimes is who's fighting

713
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: for you. I think they knew Atwater was going to

714
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: be off the list pretty soon. He was reaching the

715
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: point where he would not even have been considered. Uh

716
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: And like the pr hit, like the Jaguars did a

717
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: great job. I think really the Baselli train like it

718
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: was getting really loud in this year, and I think

719
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: it probably was effective. And then it's like there's politics.

720
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: I don't know how you hate it yeah, the other

721
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: there's three contributors along with two coaches and a laundry

722
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: list of seniors getting voted in. That this ceremony is

723
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: already seven or eight hours long, Like how do you

724
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: keep this from being like a music festival, like three

725
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: days of just we're talking about the modern era inductees,

726
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: which is the normal five to get in. But yes,

727
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: this was the expanded class of one hundred, you know

728
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: NFL one expand the class where an extra twenty people

729
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: got in. So I would start this ceremony in mid

730
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: July and just let let it run until August ten.

731
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: There's this year, so that that helps. That's only like

732
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes though. Yeah, yeah, would you like

733
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: to hear about my serendipitous encounter, Yeah, at the airport bar, Yes,

734
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: with an Inner Circle Hall of Fame member. Who we got.

735
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: We've got an eight year old, handsome tall man sitting

736
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: next to me. I'm I'm eating my child sandwich, reading

737
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: a book mind in my own business. He pulls out

738
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: this little baggy full of vitamins and drugs and he's like,

739
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: I gotta eat. I gotta take all of these today.

740
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: Right after he had finished, like a sweet very encouraging

741
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: ten minute conversation with his wife a forty seven years

742
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: and I was just like, what a nice, nice, old

743
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: handsome man. And he and he we we talked about

744
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: the back of drugs. I was like, oh, yeah, a

745
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: couple of years ago I had to like create a

746
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: spreadsheet for all my drugs. I get it. And he's like, yeah,

747
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: Marlin Olsen told me this, And I'm like, who am

748
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: I talking to? So about a half halfway through this

749
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: hour and a half long conversation about life and football,

750
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: I find out I'm talking to Bob Lilly, Mr Cowboy,

751
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: arguably the greatest defensive tackle of all time before Aaron

752
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Donald arrived on the scene. And he was the nicest man,

753
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: the nicest, most down to earth guy encounter. He that's

754
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: a lot about you that you would have like a

755
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: half hour conversation with this guy. It's just very It

756
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: was a very West story. Like it was. The three

757
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: of us were all me, You and Dan were all

758
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: on the same flight. We all, you know, went to

759
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 1: go try to look for stuff in the gift shop

760
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: or whatever. We went our own ways and Dan and

761
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: I aren't having that hour and a half conversation with

762
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: Bob Lily. But if you had to, like put In

763
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: takes a total stray bullet out of nowhere, all right,

764
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: I would never have that conversation. I don't want. I

765
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: mean I would, but I just if I had to

766
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: guess which one of the three of us, uh that

767
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: would have happened to, it was gonna be you, very well,

768
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: very wesleyan item. I think it happened because I didn't

769
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: push him to talk about football, and he didn't really

770
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: you know he I think he appreciated that I knew

771
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: who he was, but I wasn't like, oh, Bob Lily,

772
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: will you please sign this or something? You know? He uh,

773
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: he's someone that I don't know much about other than

774
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 1: what you say that. I think a seven or eight

775
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: first time first team All Pro that if they had

776
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: a special like hall of Fame for just the top

777
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, thirty guys, forty guys like he would at

778
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: that hall of Fame. Yeah. Absolutely. And here's here's what

779
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: was cool. Like he's so he's eighty years old, and

780
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: he's got all these vitamins and pills. One rolls off

781
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: the table and he snatches it like like karate kid

782
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: with the chopsticks and he's like, I never did lose

783
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: my reflex. That's like back when Clayban supported the Cowboys,

784
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: little known fact might have been Yeah, but at least

785
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: you like expect their history and stuff. That's what do

786
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: you mean? You know you were you were a Cowboys fan,

787
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: and you try to hide it. Now you try to

788
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: hide it. Yeah, I'm doing a great job to hide it.

789
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: Let me tell you you wanted to hide them very

790
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: well when J. J. Wilcox was playing for Well, that

791
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: was just somebody who appreciated defensive back play. Apologies to

792
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 1: jj al Right out there, Carlin Olson sneaky goodwn little

793
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: house on the prairie by the way, we talked about wow,

794
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: um good actor. So maybe that's something for me to

795
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: to improve upon this offseason. We should switch to our

796
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: segment that like, like I could be the type of

797
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: person like West that's curious enough about other people and

798
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: he has a gentle enough nature that I could just

799
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: start start up conversations with random handsome men and see

800
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: what happens. I would do exactly that, right down to

801
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: right down to let the record, I'm skipping past afternoon delight.

802
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: We've gotten like forty minutes on this Uh, I want

803
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: to go right to the segment, which is our our

804
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: great idea um because I think we all are flawed,

805
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: flawed people. I mean everyone is, but especially us, you know,

806
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of areas for improvement we can

807
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: we can look to this offseason. Let's start with Mark Sessler.

808
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: I think, uh talking about one area of growth. I

809
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: guess you could throw it out for yourself or or

810
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: an NFL. I'll start with We'll mix it all up.

811
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start with an NFL. And I have

812
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: had a number of these, but this one, actually I

813
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: don't want to fabricate something that I don't really care

814
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: about if it happens or not. This is one that

815
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: I absolutely care about a lot, and it bothers me.

816
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: And it's a eage item and it's something that would

817
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: improve in my world football immediately. And that is the

818
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: rules around uniforms. And I would say, use this offseason

819
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: and before the league meetings to lift this obnoxious five

820
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: year holding pattern. For we can each right now in

821
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: our head visually, and if you're listening, think of a

822
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: team or two whose uniforms got changed in the last five, six,

823
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: seven years. And we're awful and they're stuck with them

824
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: for half a decade under league rules. I would blow

825
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: that up and say, if you get involved with a

826
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: uniform that you realize two or three weeks into the

827
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: season is just an eyesore. And it looks awful under

828
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: the early autumn sun, and it looks bad in the snow,

829
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: and it looks bad under dome lights, and it looks

830
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: bad in the daytime and bad at night. You have

831
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: the ability in the opportunity because you are dealing with

832
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: a multimillion dollar marketing empire if you're one of these

833
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: NFL teams to pull the switch, have multiple uniforms and

834
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: get rid of past mistakes as quickly as possible. These

835
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: decisions are coming from a personal place. Well it is personal,

836
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: but I beyond beyond what Cleveland did, and they're changing

837
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: their's and they better get it right because it's another

838
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: five year and contract you're stuck in. But think about

839
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: I for this is just personal and no offense to

840
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: the teams. But the Bucks have had hard uniforms. To

841
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: look at the Jaguars here and there they improve. There's

842
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: to some degree, I mean, there's no end to it.

843
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: There are some teams out there that the the matchups

844
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: between these two are you cannot fathom it on television

845
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: and Gregg at times just lucky to deal with a

846
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: version of color blindness. Let's work on this immediately. This

847
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: is not that hard to do because more uniforms, more options,

848
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: more jerseys. Tell me, anyone who loses here, you're right.

849
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: I I know that the hoops that you have to

850
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: go through to do new uniforms are crazy. Like the

851
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: Rams are trying to come out with some new uniforms

852
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: as they move into the New States. It's like, why

853
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: not just let teams make as many uniforms as they

854
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: want and change it all the time. Is it? Is

855
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: it for the fans that buy them? Right? They don't want,

856
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, a little timmy to get stuck with this.

857
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: You can't even like keep the old one, Like, how

858
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: about just have as many extras as you want, like

859
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: the NBA, Like, what's the what's the downside? Chaos? Let's

860
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: have it. I'm all for chaos to do it. Don't

861
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: west an area of personal growth or you know an

862
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: NFL player. Well, I have a theme that carres across

863
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: both my own personal growl, the goal that I have

864
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: for the future, plus what someone in the NFL needs

865
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: to do, and it's chop wood carry water. Baker Mayfield,

866
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: chop wood, carry water. Make the main thing the main thing,

867
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: live in the moment. This is a guy who did

868
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: not make the main thing the main thing last year.

869
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: You need to make football the main thing in your

870
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 1: life again. And I heard some disturbing stories the Super

871
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: Bowl that I think he kind of lost his way

872
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: last year and it went beyond football. Um and I

873
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: think this happens to a lot of athletes. You have

874
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: to find a way to have the motivation to make

875
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: football the main thing. Do you want to be great?

876
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: Because I believe Baker Mayfield can be great. I think

877
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: we saw it a rookie year. Is that what you

878
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: want foremost in your life is greatness in football, and

879
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: maybe it will make you an imbalanced human being. But

880
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: for your career what you're meant to do with the

881
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: next ten years of your life, make football the main thing.

882
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: Make being great the main thing. Make sharpening your skills,

883
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: honing your skills to raise your level to the other

884
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks above you. Make that the main thing. I couldn't

885
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: agree more. And I think that some of the stuff

886
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: we were hearing made a lot of sense because it

887
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: did seem like Baker mayfields. It wasn't just confidence, it

888
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: was just sort of the way he presents himself and

889
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: sort of what fuels him got thrown in a blender

890
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: last season. And there were some interesting comments from Jarvis

891
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: Landry that uh I tweeted yesterday that came through a

892
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: different interview in a different source, where he basically said

893
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: that team was in such disarray that on a weekly basis,

894
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: when they ran through their first fifteen scripted plays, that

895
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 1: no one on the offensive side the ball had any

896
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: concept of what would come next. That there was a

897
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: lack of a plan. And I can't think of a

898
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: worse environment for a second year quarterback to be And

899
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: so there's that part of it. But what did he

900
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: do to get himself out of that? I don't know

901
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: the answer to that, but we need to see more.

902
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: When you when your whole game is built around slights

903
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: and chips on your shoulder, it's easy to get caught

904
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: up in creating those for yourself. Addie more fuel to

905
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: the fire that needs to be there, and it's it's

906
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: hard for us to figure out what it is right

907
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: from from a perception standpoint, It's like, well, is this

908
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: because of mindset? Is this because of Freddie Kitchens? Is

909
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: this because of Odell Beckham Jr. And there's no way

910
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: to know when they're losing and they look bad, you know,

911
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: on the other plays of the game after the first fifteen.

912
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: It's so it's tough. It's tough for Baker and stuff

913
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: for us to understand. And I think, like for me

914
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: looking from the outside at a certain point, what if

915
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: he's just not good? I don't I'm not there yet.

916
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: But that's where you eventually get to. Yeah, it was

917
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: in a radic season that was hard to diagnose. To

918
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: West's point, I think it's one of the great challenges

919
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: of being a professional athlete. To your point, West, and

920
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: these are what your next ten years are about. It's

921
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: it's a very common thing, um to not like have

922
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: all your you know, ducks in a row in terms

923
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: of I want to be the greatest professional, uh that

924
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: I can be at the age of twenty three or

925
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: twenty four, none of us were like that, you know

926
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it forces you to mature a

927
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: lot faster, like that was not What was the most

928
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: important thing in my life when I was twenty four

929
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: is to like, do the best job I possibly could

930
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: for my employers. That's all true, but he is I was.

931
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I was pretty okay with being mediocre

932
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: at the time. But you're missing a very important thing, right.

933
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield found his calling. He has driven to be

934
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: a great football player. You didn't know. This is the

935
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: one thing in life. This is my prime directive to

936
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: do this he does, and that counts for a ton

937
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: That's true. Once rodor World tapped the shoulders, I really did,

938
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: I really did. I said. It was like, Okay, this

939
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: is it. Now I need to try hard before they

940
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: take this away. Um, I'm looking at a league that

941
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: obviously I care about. I've worked here for a while now.

942
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: But I think the message that they send, and it's

943
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: it's random, and I think it's small, but it expands

944
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: out to me is how teams can avoid mandatory inclusion

945
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: for hard knocks. And the message sent there is if

946
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: media has access, if you have exposure, then that hurts

947
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: you in some way. It's it's bad, it's a distraction.

948
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: And so what we end up with is, right before

949
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: the season starts, we promote a team that is bad. Right,

950
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: the rules state that you have to be bad, uh,

951
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: to to be on hard knocks, and it comes at

952
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: a time where we're trying to gen up excitement for

953
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: the season, and yeah, it gives us exposure to teams

954
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: that we might not have been talking about. But it

955
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: lays this foundation that well, you know, if cameras are there,

956
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: if people are talking about you, if people know your

957
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: rookies better, if they see them sing, if they see

958
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: your GM in meetings, if they see your coaching meetings,

959
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: that that hinders your ability to win football games. And

960
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: it just it doesn't the recent teams lose on hard

961
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: knoxes because they're not any good. Yeah, the Antonio Brown

962
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: things set hard knocks back of it like that was

963
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: just a bad road to go down. I mean, they

964
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: couldn't have guessed everything that would have happened of us, obviously,

965
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: but it leaned into it and it was it was unfortunate.

966
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you know, the Eagles did all or nothing.

967
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: They're obviously a successful organization. That's gonna I don't know

968
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: if that's out already, but it's coming out soon that

969
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: that could be interesting. It would be nice to see

970
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: a better team on our knocks, do it? Patriots? I

971
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: think it goes to the point of like the NFL

972
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: and almost in most major sports are like reducing access.

973
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: It's they're always reducing it, but not they're not adding

974
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: to it. It's like there's a lot more access in

975
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: the NFL than there is in the premier league, and

976
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: a lot overseas they think, wow, you guys have crazy

977
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: good access, Like at some point you might have just

978
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: about nothing. I mean there are thirty one teams that

979
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: might be strong armed into it in a different set

980
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: of rules. Then there's then you travel down another ten

981
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: thousand feet and there's the Patriots. So but you are

982
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: wishing against wishes. The thing is like the Patriots have

983
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: all kinds of access. Like we how we've seen do

984
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: your job sixty billion times. There's those practice clips of

985
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: Belichick we see run into the ground two Patriots, uh

986
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: docs and Belichick where they followed him for a whole season,

987
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: the two thousand nine seasons. But it's hard Knox is

988
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: chaos though, like hard knocks can, you're not quite you,

989
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: although teams can control what they let out. I'm gonna

990
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: go um my out throwout an NFL one next, but

991
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go personal growth here. Um you know, every

992
00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: family ultimately or every marriage needs it needs like, uh,

993
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: somewhat of a type a person that can make some plans.

994
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: And the problem in in my family is like me

995
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: and my wife were both very we're both very chill.

996
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: And that's good. It leads to like a house without

997
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: a lot of drama, but sometimes it leads to a

998
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: house where nothing happens, no plans are made. You never

999
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: go anywhere, you never do anything. You never create some

1000
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: some good moments for your for your children to have,

1001
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: and you do. You know, sometimes those moments are just

1002
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: walking to the park and walking home from school and

1003
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: doing all sorts of stuff. But someone needs to step

1004
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: up to the plate and make some plans and go

1005
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: on some trips this offseason, and that you know someone

1006
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: is gonna be me. We're going to see World on Saturday,

1007
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: and that just generally I need to I need to

1008
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: start taking the reins here because these kids are just

1009
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: getting older and nothing's happening. It's like I'm I'm in

1010
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: awe of like these parents and even thinking back to

1011
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: my parents of like they schedule all these vacations and

1012
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: they do these things, and I look at our and

1013
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: like nothing ever schedule because we don't really like think ahead.

1014
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: We're always just like there and it's like, oh, what

1015
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: are we gonna do today or this weekend? It's hardy

1016
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: to fly by the seat of your pants if the

1017
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: object at rest stay at rest right exactly, And when

1018
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: when children get involved, someone needs to start making some plans.

1019
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: So that's just my personal I like that. Let's go Mark,

1020
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: all right, I will. I'll give you because I'm sure

1021
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: the show is getting beef you. I'll give you a

1022
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: couple of quick hit personal ones. Number one outside this

1023
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: happened this morning, and this driving me absolutely nuts. My

1024
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: house are our fire detector. Our smoke detector is located

1025
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: right outside the shower the bathroom, and it does not

1026
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: tell the difference between smoke because there's never smoke in

1027
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: my house and the mists that comes from when I like,

1028
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: I like, my shower is really hot, and like the

1029
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: smoke and the mist or the mist is coming out

1030
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: of the bathroom and setting off the fire alarm all

1031
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: the time. And so I've got to figure out how

1032
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: to fix this. And I don't even know how to

1033
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: take the thing off the wall. I'm not good at

1034
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: that stuff. I'm not greg doesn't have a toolbox. I

1035
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: have one. I have no idea where it's so it's

1036
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: not that different. Gotta fix that thing. Number two at

1037
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: some point in this offseason, I'm not gonna tweet for

1038
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: forty straight days. I'm done with Twitter and it's just

1039
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: basically a look at me show most of the time,

1040
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go on a huge like forty day

1041
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: Twitter fast. And then last year I went ten days

1042
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: into this and then faltered that I'm going to do

1043
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: this experiment again. And this is not for everyone, but

1044
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: it is for me. Where you eat nothing but watermelon

1045
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: for twenty one days, and what happened to me after

1046
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: ten days was the great. I felt younger and happier

1047
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: than I have since like middle high school. And so

1048
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it the full twenty day experiment and

1049
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: see what happens to me. I will live. That's these

1050
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: are random things felt great. But the people around you know,

1051
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: I knew, I you know what, even Gregg is going

1052
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: to talk about your moods. You weren't even around me

1053
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: were it was when I was on It was a staycation,

1054
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: and I honestly could not have been any happier. And

1055
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: every time I bring up a diet experiment. Greg's like,

1056
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: but your moods like, I'm gonna be a moody no

1057
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: matter what. So you're totally wrong about that one. I'm

1058
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: just saying, like I knew that was coming. You're happy

1059
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: on the inside and you're just like, hey, no, it's gutty,

1060
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 1: can watch. So it's not like that. That's fine. That's

1061
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: probably happening all the time as it is. And so

1062
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: I want to work on my overall moodiness too, because

1063
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: I am very moody around the house at times. Do

1064
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: you have that's a side bet to that. Do you

1065
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: have a bathroom fan? Uh? I just opened the window

1066
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: to our yard, because the bathroom fan is to expel

1067
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: moisture from the bathroom, whether it be flatulencer or shower mills.

1068
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: So if you if you have one, I mean it

1069
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: sounds a good, good good idea for many reasons. But I

1070
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: it's got to feel to take this out smoke alarm

1071
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: thing off. Just let the house, let's go behind the glass.

1072
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: We forgot Erica tam Posey, our producer has gonna contribute here.

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00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: What are you looking for for personal growth? Yeah? I

1074
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: really want to put I know this sounds crazy, but

1075
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: like a lot more research and really get to the

1076
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: bottom of all the football stuff. I was really really

1077
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: lucky to get to do a fantasy football show this year,

1078
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: and I feel like I've learned so much just by

1079
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: producing you guys every week and all the stuff that

1080
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: you guys take and and you know, Greg, I know

1081
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: you were joking it even yesterday on the street. You're like,

1082
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: I'll ask you about personal but nobody cares about your

1083
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: football opinion. And it is true, but like I don't

1084
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to just of course, but it has truth.

1085
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean it has legs because it is. It is

1086
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: true in a sense where I want to be taken seriously.

1087
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to just be the funny, you know,

1088
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: wild loose cannon girl that you guys can do for

1089
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: comedic relief like I do. I do know my and

1090
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: I want to I want to have to beat your yourself.

1091
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: That's the first. It's probably not actually, but I can

1092
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: tell you it's hard to be on a show where

1093
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: your football opinion is not taken seriously up because it

1094
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: can be it can be a strong Yeah. Well, I

1095
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: just I want to study more and I want to

1096
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: prove that that I that I do know what I'm

1097
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: talking about and I want to get better. That's a

1098
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: good You're gonna do it. That's great, gonna do it

1099
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: A plus. I felt like that was my first, like

1100
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: my first couple of years doing road World and stuff.

1101
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: The off seasons were super valuable for that, like reading

1102
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: books and and like trying to because it's the hardest sport.

1103
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we we say this all the time. It's

1104
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: the it's the hardest sport to cover. There's the biggest

1105
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: gap between what the people are on the field and

1106
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: the coaches know and the fans of any sport. It

1107
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: takes like five it takes a long time to realize

1108
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: you don't even know anything. Like they're like, it takes

1109
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: five years to know how little you truly know. I've

1110
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: come to that. Well. There's also fits and starts where

1111
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: it's like fog and you're shine your bright lights on

1112
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: it and it's more opaque, it's harder to see. So

1113
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: you have to kind of reach a point where you're like, oh,

1114
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't really know that much. I gotta know more.

1115
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: And then you know more and you're like, I still

1116
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: don't know that much, but that makes much exciting too.

1117
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: I think makes it more like I don't know. I

1118
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: think it makes it a better sport to cover, And

1119
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: that's that's the ideal spot to be in is to

1120
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: know but know that you don't know everything. And I

1121
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: think a lot of the stuff, bad stuff about covering

1122
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: football comes from people trying to pretend like they know.

1123
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: People say things is if is if they're certain, and

1124
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: they're just not. What do you think the easiest sport

1125
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: is to cover foot base Really? I couldn't. I couldn't write.

1126
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: I don't know that much about baseball at all. Someone

1127
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: threw me into cut, like, suddenly call a baseball game.

1128
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean it would be an at absolute nuclear disaster

1129
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: out of baseball, Basketball, football, base That's what I'm saying

1130
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: of the four I'm talking about bowling for major sports? Well, yeah,

1131
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 1: cover bowling with my How is that harder than hockey

1132
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: a major sport? How? I don't know. All right, let's

1133
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: throw tennis and golf in there. Whatever. Know who is

1134
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: covering bowling full time? I'm just saying, how many of

1135
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: those baseball? One? Is there one person covering bowling full time? Yeah?

1136
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: Because people are making moneyballing, people are making ESPN covers it.

1137
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean you still but ESPN stuff all time. I

1138
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a full time job. If you're

1139
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: out there covering bowling, it's like, oh, you knocked down nine,

1140
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 1: Well that means guys, and this next shot, he's got

1141
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: to get one more down. I think probably to call

1142
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: all of them to it. Of course, their excellent level

1143
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: is equally difficult. I'll say that sports are fun. Go sports,

1144
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: ghost sports, how about you. I have to make my

1145
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Dan like peace with my creator and mortality. And

1146
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: it's been hanging over my head for a couple of years.

1147
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: And that's why I mentioned chop wood carry water, the

1148
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: old Zen Cohen about enlightenment and being in the moment

1149
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: and not being afraid to go back down to the

1150
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: basics and tap into that. And it also for me

1151
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: has another meeting all of that. I have to figure

1152
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: that out. But also what I've become after cancer is

1153
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: I really like cooking and grilling. I've always liked it,

1154
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, I'm more driven to do it now.

1155
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: And I have this vision in the future of a

1156
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: barbecue and blues joint where I can surround myself with

1157
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: family and friends. The people I want to be around

1158
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 1: because I don't want to be around a lot of people.

1159
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: But to me, the key to life is be around

1160
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: the people you do want to be around. And if

1161
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: I can open that up, if I can create one

1162
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: new signature dish every year. Last year I created about

1163
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: four or five, so I got a headstart, so this

1164
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: year I create another one. Keisha wants a YouTube project

1165
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: called It's Over for the Westlings because everyone keeps telling

1166
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: us you can't have fun once your parents. That's not Yeah,

1167
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you guys are so naive. You think you'd

1168
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: still be the fun cool people. Well it's over for us.

1169
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: So that's kind of like our ironic take on it.

1170
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: But she wants me to have a grilling station on

1171
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: our YouTube channel. So I'm gonna chop wood, carry water

1172
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: the wood is I mean, that's that's what barbecue is,

1173
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: indirect heat with wood, fire and water from the Suvie

1174
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: that I've been into. So something to do with that. Um,

1175
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: So I gotta figure out how all that works together.

1176
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: And then we've fatherhood into it for the first time.

1177
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: So I've got a lot of changing to do this offseason.

1178
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna crush it. Yeah, thank you. I

1179
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: don't think it's yeah, we'll be coming to you. You know.

1180
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: You just they're going to be reacting to that. That's

1181
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing. And I mean, I mean it

1182
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: kind of goes. I hear what you're saying. You're like,

1183
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: it's very wise words what you're saying. And life is

1184
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: about creating like those moments. That's partly why I'm trying

1185
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: to force myself to make plans because like sometimes that

1186
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: sometimes those moments happen when you do when you do

1187
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: some when you get out of your comfort zone, which

1188
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: is you know, your your own house. But to your point,

1189
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: like having having different passions outside of this job is

1190
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: is important. Also, like the West of is gonna have

1191
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: an easier time shifting into the rigors and delights of parenthood.

1192
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: Then if I the West that I met in, like

1193
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: if suddenly you had a child, like the next morning,

1194
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: you would have had some starian scenarios to work on.

1195
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: The person was a bad decision making machine. Yeah, we've

1196
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: scared much about Like it's more that like Keisha has

1197
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: like a very specific agenda of a lot of these things.

1198
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: It's like, well, Tuesday nights, we're gonna be doing this

1199
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: and like Friday nights, you know, and you who know

1200
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: you know she's a scheduler. She she is that person

1201
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: like you don't have that worry in your household in

1202
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: terms of in terms of schedule. I'm gonna throw out

1203
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: my next is now, I really lies Saving the football

1204
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: one was a bad move because like we should have

1205
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: just closed that or close on whatever Clay Bann's got.

1206
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna That's what we're gonna do. Um my,

1207
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: um my area Just quickly of of an NFL figure

1208
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: that can can grow personally, is uh is for Ryan

1209
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: Pace and for Matt Naggy to just admit, admit mistakes

1210
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: and move on from prices. Don't hold on you know,

1211
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: we all make so many mistakes, um but a lot

1212
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: a lot more pain happens from holding onto those mistakes.

1213
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: And maybe don't let the Chargers go get Cam Newton.

1214
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: Maybe you be the team that it's a short life,

1215
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: it's a short career in the NFL. UH make the

1216
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: most of it. You want to create some moments, get

1217
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: get Cam, get or get someone else. There's a lot

1218
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that could be out there. Just you. Doesn't

1219
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: matter what you said publicly in December thirty verse No

1220
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: one's gonna mind when you when you deliver a real

1221
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: quarterback and and they don't have one. I think we

1222
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: all agree that that's what the bear should do. But

1223
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: I just as a thought extra size, How does that

1224
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: pain measure the pain of making a bad decision and

1225
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: standing by it measure against the pain of Mitch Drobinsky.

1226
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the odds are going to

1227
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: another franchise and and succeeding wildly after you cut him

1228
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: and didn't give him another year. Just just a I

1229
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: can't live life that way worrying about but it is

1230
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna be pain if you see him in another uniform

1231
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: doing great things. Well, I don't know why you couldn't

1232
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: bench him too if he lost a competition to a

1233
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: veteran in the summer, I mean, then you're then you're

1234
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: protecting against that. I'd almost all the dice on Mitch

1235
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: Robinsky not going someone else. There's somewhere else in turning

1236
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 1: into Aaron Rodgers. Also, Yes, I just I just don't

1237
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: see it. I don't see it. Crazier things have happened,

1238
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: they have take that chance. Uh uh, just professionally and

1239
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: also personally I've got to. I have no problem being

1240
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: honest with people that I like, like with you guys,

1241
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: honestly with people on Twitter. I can do it easy, um.

1242
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: But when it comes to professionally people that I want

1243
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: to like me, um, I I'll fall back and say less.

1244
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: I'll cut my sentences short, I'll leave thoughts to myself

1245
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: because I don't want to hurt feelings. I don't want

1246
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: to create awkward circumstances. And it really sets me back

1247
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: because I look at the way and not that I

1248
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: want to take things to the extreme, and not to

1249
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: name names about anybody that that works here, but it's something.

1250
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: If something happens and it puts somebody in a bad position,

1251
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: those people will say something, um me. I tend to

1252
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: keep that to myself and I'll burn myself say, oh,

1253
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, I should have been better prepared for that.

1254
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: But everything isn't my fault, you know, I am. You

1255
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: know I'm role playing the protagonist of existence. Like I

1256
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: get that, But there are there are certain obstacles to

1257
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: get put in my way that I need to be

1258
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 1: a little more vocal about um and and quit taking

1259
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: the easy way out. Because I do it. I do

1260
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: it in a lot of capacities and and sometimes sometimes

1261
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: I don't do it at all, and I always feel better,

1262
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: uh when I don't do it, But I've I've just

1263
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: got to quit short changing myself because, um, you know,

1264
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: it's it's it's been a long year. Um I lost

1265
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: my mom right before the super Bowl. Last year, I

1266
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: was doing super Bowl Live. I did two blocks of

1267
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: the show after I found out it happened. And I'm

1268
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: still working in that chair all the time, and I'm

1269
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, all the all the times where

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Speaker 1: I just get run over, you know, and I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: constantly you know, playing playing dumb to to make somebody

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Speaker 1: else seem smart, or you know, just going through the motions.

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Speaker 1: And I've got to quit doing that because it's it's

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Speaker 1: a disservice to me, it's a disservice to the people

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Speaker 1: that are watching. So no more, you feel like you

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01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: you can be yourself with people you're comfortable around, but

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Speaker 1: you want to be yourself with everyone. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of the a lot of the times that's me just

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01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: listening and not saying anything. Well, we all kind of

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Speaker 1: do that a little bit. Like you you change how

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01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: much of yourself you give to another person, depending on

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01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: how well you know that person and how comfortable you

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01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: are with standing up for yourself too and for other people,

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01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: but but letting them no, and yeah, in that situation,

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01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: and it's always easier for me to stand up for

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01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: other people, right than it is for myself. And so

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Speaker 1: I've I've just got a figure out a way. Not

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01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: that I'm like, oh, you know, poor little Patrick, but like,

1289
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: but you don't want to have those like a minute

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01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: after the conversation ended and the other person walked down

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Speaker 1: the room, Oh I should have said this, Yeah, yeah,

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01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: I should. Yeah. I like that. I feel that way

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01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: a lot too. This has been a deep, like all

1294
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: your goals, very cathartic. We do now mind seems pretty basic.

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01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: After you guys, I got some detaching us. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I want to go to I want to go to

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01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: Sea World. I was at a job before that's at

1298
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: another TV show I was I was at and it

1299
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: was nothing compared to what other people have have gone through,

1300
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: But there was a guy that I worked with who

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01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: would be joking with me and would say a lot

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01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: of things that were really sort of inappropriate and I'm

1303
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: talking crossing a line, but it was someone I worked

1304
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: with someone that was like it was always a joke,

1305
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't outright, and I would go home and talk

1306
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: to my roommate or talk to people about it and

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01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: be like, it's really upset. I mean, but I don't

1308
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: want things to be weird at work. And I know

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01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: it's like not not compared to like what you're saying now,

1310
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: but you just said something that reminded me. So when

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01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,959
Speaker 1: I told that, they were like, what if I came

1312
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: home and said what this guy said to you? You

1313
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: would be you would be so defensive. You would be like, hey,

1314
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 1: that's not cool. You can't talk to her like that,

1315
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: or you can't do this. So someone taught me something

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01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: that i've been I still I'm not good at doing it.

1317
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: But if you start looking at yourself as you're defending

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01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: someone else, because when it's me, I'm not going to

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01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: speak up, and I find myself really boisterous, really strong

1320
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: headed in all this. But as soon as it comes

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Speaker 1: to me where I'm worried about upsetting someone or don't

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01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: want to make the mood weird, it's like, but wait,

1323
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 1: if someone was talking to Greg like that, or Mark

1324
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: or West or like I would be Hey, this is

1325
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: not cool, and I'm not gonna let it be cool.

1326
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: So it's like if you try to put yourself in

1327
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: that situation where you're defending someone else, because it's crazy.

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: We all would stand up for someone else, but when

1329
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: it comes to ourselves, it's completely different because you're never

1330
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: you're never worried about how the other person is perceived

1331
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: based on your response. But when you do it for yourself,

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01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: it's like, I see you know, go full disclosure, go

1333
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: kimono open like money in Siciliano have segments on the

1334
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: show that I started, you know NFL Now it used

1335
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: to be up to the minute, and like, I think

1336
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Speaker 1: about it, and I've never said anything. I've never said

1337
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: anything publicly. I've never said anything in a meeting. It's like,

1338
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, I want to have something that I do. Um. Well,

1339
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't know what you want to Yeah, you know,

1340
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: and that's because I don't see anything. So this is

1341
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,959
Speaker 1: very healthy. You have to say something. Yeah there, wise

1342
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: nothing's going to happen. Maybe maybe these Shadow League figures

1343
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: are listening to this episode right now, but I sort

1344
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: of doubt if they see my name in the description here,

1345
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: well there's there's Another aspect of this is like you,

1346
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: if you're good, you think, well I should didn't have

1347
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: to ask. They should recognize it and come up with

1348
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: the idea, Hey, I want to feature this person here.

1349
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: But we've learned that is not how how this world

1350
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: works for the most part, or that's not how the

1351
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: business works on some level unfortunately, that you do need

1352
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: to be your own advocate. And that's the thing, like

1353
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here. We all wouldn't be here if

1354
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: you guys hadn't carved out this thing for yourself and

1355
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: just made it happen. Um, so I gotta make it

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01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: happen largely without oversight, which is a one way to go.

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01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: I would say that's a that was that was a factor,

1358
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, nobody really cared what we

1359
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: were doing, and the studio wasn't occupied, so let's go

1360
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: do it. Nobody cares anyway, Yes, sneak around. It is

1361
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: great sometimes being under the radar for a while and

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: then and then yes, then you do not want to

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01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 1: be under the radar. And we've got to that point,

1364
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Speaker 1: and that's why we can have these types of conversations.

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Speaker 1: This is a very off season show. To me. It

1366
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: was a good way to kick off the off season.

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01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: We had some real football talk, but we uh, we

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01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: had some talk. As Dave Damask would say about the

1369
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: little game of life rights. You have me on the

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01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: show three years. Oh, now you're talking up. I like this,

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01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: You're you're I'm not gonna give you a grade. And

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01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: Dan to me is the perfect host. But it is

1373
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: healthy once in a while to hear a different voice

1374
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: and to take the show in a different direction and

1375
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: then come back to the stasis of what you always

1376
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: do the next show. Sure, well, that is It's part

1377
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: of the fun of the off season. And we'll we'll

1378
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: have lots of different combinations, lots of different types of shows.

1379
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: We can stretch our legs a little bit. We will

1380
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: be plenty busy with the combine we're going to in

1381
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and owners meetings and free agency.

1382
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: We will be back next week for two shows Tuesday

1383
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: and Thursday, before cranking it back up to three shows

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01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: a week after that for a while. I know, Erica,

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01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: you're excited about that. In the meantime, though, I think

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01:07:54,280 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: it's time let's get out of here for Marks Whistler,

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01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: The Sizzler, The chef Chris Westling, Patrick claibn Any that

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Speaker 1: Eric at same postum Greg Rosenthal see you Tuesday, m