Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Welcome back, LA Day two.
Speaker 3: Uh, we had a good one this morning, and this
Speaker 3: dude has been entertaining that since he got here.
Speaker 1: Your mic straight, like, yeah, I get it right, you straight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a big episode.
Speaker 3: Look at it right, Look at you Yeah, yeah, look
Speaker 3: at your Solho talk to him.
Speaker 1: We're here, Yeah, we're here to smoke. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Stacks, I man, Matt, you know we're doing
Speaker 1: it up. You know what I mean. I'm happy to
Speaker 1: be here and I don't even smoke. Am I the
Speaker 1: only one that ever smoked? Okay? You good? Okay? How
Speaker 1: was life? What's going on? Life is good? Life is good.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five is my years. Yeah, tell you was
Speaker 1: entertaining this bro. You got a whole little plan. But
Speaker 1: I like your business.
Speaker 3: You was talking business at the end, Like, what's what's
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five mean to you?
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk probably business and stuff and allevors on.
Speaker 2: That, but not just you know what, being a better
Speaker 2: person first, and when we say that, but are we
Speaker 2: really doing them steps? Be a better father, you know,
Speaker 2: be more devoted to my savior, like all these things.
Speaker 2: I'll be thinking about because I feel like the only thing
Speaker 2: we think about his family and how to get more money, right,
Speaker 2: And I think if we do things the right way,
Speaker 2: we'll hit all the same avenues, you know, we'll cross
Speaker 2: that path.
Speaker 1: So just being all around a better person. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: really it. That what's up too.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get married soon too, because you got
Speaker 2: any ladies out there that you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't even know where yet.
Speaker 2: You're just looking for some not like a lot, okay,
Speaker 2: But what I'm just saying, until until the job is
Speaker 2: actually right, I mean, can you find can you find like.
Speaker 1: Real love out here in La? It's it's dangerous out here,
Speaker 1: the streets is cold. Yeah, yea, yeah, I don't really
Speaker 1: La is different. Yes, I probably. I don't think in
Speaker 1: l a okay, But I am open for whoever's out there.
Speaker 1: That's for me, right. What are some qualities you gotta have?
Speaker 1: She gotta have a job. That's the new thing.
Speaker 4: I gotta just that's crazy, no, I mean it is
Speaker 4: the basting to say that, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: So something going on right?
Speaker 1: Just half yeah, like when I come home, tell me
Speaker 1: what you did?
Speaker 2: Like so that what else characters are like, she, I'll
Speaker 2: be I have nice hair. You know I like hair
Speaker 2: tall short? Wait does the hair have to be hers?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was just getting that, like to have her hair.
Speaker 4: You guys start background checking these motherfuckers de bros to
Speaker 4: these days, making some of them backgrounds just be out
Speaker 4: of control.
Speaker 1: But our backgrounds out of control. But but I'm saying, though,
Speaker 1: but I don't have to accept that, right, right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't have to accept that now. Now I know
Speaker 2: you did your research on me. You questions, I get it,
Speaker 2: But I am a psych major. Right, So so the
Speaker 2: question you just asked him. I used to be like,
Speaker 2: I don't care about her, but now I do. Like,
Speaker 2: hold that mean I gotta know, like and listen, this
Speaker 2: is what's going on with you?
Speaker 1: Why are you like that? Where's that coming from? You
Speaker 1: want to have that kind of conversation makes you upset?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Getting it off because now I need to know you
Speaker 2: for you you're trying to get in their mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, once you do that, it's over. He's been in
Speaker 3: every side of the he been psych major and everybody.
Speaker 1: You've been married for a long time. N I've been married.
Speaker 1: I'm married and divorced.
Speaker 2: But I've been I've been with my girl now ten
Speaker 2: years many three. So that's my dude like right now.
Speaker 2: And I like a lot of them dating, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 3: But I mean, since you are really with the psychological
Speaker 3: side of it, what is some advice you would give
Speaker 3: some of these younger athletes these days because you see
Speaker 3: a lot of the some of these older women praying
Speaker 3: so to speak, on these young boys.
Speaker 2: You are right about that, bro, damn oh man. So
Speaker 2: what advice I would get them?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: As uh is has some patience? Take your time, right.
Speaker 2: I feel like we get a girl that's popular, she's there,
Speaker 2: and we want to just just give her everything, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, everything she wants to give
Speaker 2: it her. It's like she like me, she gonna wait,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, let me at least learn you,
Speaker 2: let me at least like you. We be so hyped
Speaker 2: up to get somebody that's baddy or somebody's popular and
Speaker 2: all that, and wanted to get to like her. And
Speaker 2: then when we do like her, like, I don't even
Speaker 2: like this joint, you know what I mean? This, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been.
Speaker 1: There once, she did it, So here you go. And
Speaker 1: he was right.
Speaker 2: And another thing is you get someone that got some
Speaker 2: lose like you got some lose. Because I be thinking,
Speaker 2: like if we her do something right and unlet's say
Speaker 2: it's wrong, we get in trouble. If you're not gonna
Speaker 2: face the heat and the bath and I'm gonna face
Speaker 2: then while we even and it's not about she gotta
Speaker 2: be like somebody, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But let's say you got kids.
Speaker 2: You're a really good mom, you care how you are
Speaker 2: perceived for your children, got belent you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like you're a good person or you don't want your
Speaker 2: parents to see what type of that's my thing? Like
Speaker 2: something to lose, you know, girls lose something I don't
Speaker 2: care about nothing and go to the next one. I'm
Speaker 2: a hold up baby. Then you just get my man
Speaker 2: jammed up and you want to bloss talking about it.
Speaker 2: But now you're about to get with me. Now, why
Speaker 2: would I do that? That's the dumb shit we doing.
Speaker 1: He still will do it, though it is the problem
Speaker 1: there in lines the issue that we will do it,
Speaker 1: though won't he do it?
Speaker 2: And he asked, you manna tell me.
Speaker 1: Like goddamn right. Two of your former brothers. Man just
Speaker 1: took jobs.
Speaker 3: Shut out to Sean Jackson at Delaware State and Mike
Speaker 3: Vick and Northfolk State, and.
Speaker 1: To your real brothers, our thoughts. And when we see
Speaker 1: you out there with either of them this year this season.
Speaker 2: Oh you absolutely not see me. I ain't doing no coaching,
Speaker 2: but I will see this. I'm so happy, super happy
Speaker 2: for Michael Vick. You know, I always see him being
Speaker 2: a coach, you know what I mean. I remember when
Speaker 2: we was young whiling out and he was like our
Speaker 2: idol playing with him and.
Speaker 1: The coach can control me.
Speaker 2: And to Shawn he had to go through Victor do
Speaker 2: it and if old j Vick said, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, do this, do that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. I remember one time we live.
Speaker 2: In waits Damn. I love my Mike because Mike's a
Speaker 2: great person, you know what I mean. People don't know that, right,
Speaker 2: even with the dog stuff and all that. Once he
Speaker 2: serves his time in jail and the community service, you know,
Speaker 2: he still was doutor.
Speaker 1: Like making people aware of it and they ain't even
Speaker 1: ask him to. But story, we lift in weights.
Speaker 2: And wait, men, DeShawn Wayne, we ain't lift was man.
Speaker 2: We don't even lift weights like that. So Mike's in there,
Speaker 2: so we act like we lift, and we talking about
Speaker 2: the girls of last night, you know, and and Jack left.
Speaker 1: So Mike said, yeah, where'd yall go? Don't I don't
Speaker 1: know where you went. I don't know went, so he
Speaker 1: go finding.
Speaker 2: He said, yo, man, you know, come back in the
Speaker 2: locker room. So he come back in there. He said,
Speaker 2: I ain't gotta lift, man, I'm natural.
Speaker 1: Yup. Mike said, what what you mean? You natural?
Speaker 2: He said, I don't need that, man, I get it
Speaker 2: done with anything. He said, what should think? He said,
Speaker 2: we think I do?
Speaker 1: Fuck?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like, I'm gonna hear work.
Speaker 2: I got two hundred dollars contracts twice. Why you can't
Speaker 2: do it? He said that we start lifting just the
Speaker 2: o g you know what I mean of putting us
Speaker 2: in another place and keeping it moving. The problem is,
Speaker 2: like players don't like that now. So that's that's how
Speaker 2: Mike was into DeShawn, another good friend of mine. I'm
Speaker 2: happy for him because now he's the type of coach
Speaker 2: or he gonna motivate players like we come from the
Speaker 2: same backgrounds, right, maybe an underdog because Deshawn's always big
Speaker 2: on the underdog, you know, and he's gonna get them
Speaker 2: players and he gonna make them dogs, right. And I
Speaker 2: think a lot of recruits are gonna come to him
Speaker 2: because of that. And I think the Shawn's good for
Speaker 2: just a new generation of trying to control, like being
Speaker 2: from that neighborhood, right and still going out there and
Speaker 2: being a professional on the field.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be great at that.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Your transition into media, you know, seeing your show with
Speaker 3: your brother twenty five to ten. But then also you've
Speaker 3: been you know, prevalent in the Fox space the last
Speaker 3: few years too. Have that started and how's it going?
Speaker 3: It's going good. Uh, you know, it's a little different
Speaker 3: from me.
Speaker 2: I think my transition was it was harder for most
Speaker 2: because like I'm always the same way if it's on TV,
Speaker 2: you know, if it's joking with y'all, that's what I do.
Speaker 1: So I had to learn on the prime time and.
Speaker 2: Like it's a little bit more professional where if I
Speaker 2: want to call a dude this ass like he ain't
Speaker 2: he ain't shit, you know what I mean, I can't
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 1: I got to say it.
Speaker 2: What like I said it about that and like, you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't like how it came off, because that's not
Speaker 2: what I was trying to say. I was saying, like,
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about to do so much. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's he's okay, you know what I mean, and like
Speaker 2: he's and he was playing ass at the time.
Speaker 1: I should have said that.
Speaker 2: So like learning that how to be different would still
Speaker 2: be myself, because that's a lot of dudes that they
Speaker 2: be a certain way on TV. Then they get off
Speaker 2: and they get told different dudes. You know, I'm like,
Speaker 2: hold up, man, this ain't even for real, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? So I never want to be like that.
Speaker 2: But the trans it has been cool, it's been good.
Speaker 2: It's hot right now.
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, the block is hot.
Speaker 3: What you I mean, you don't have to get into detail,
Speaker 3: But what's what's the energy over there right now?
Speaker 1: Well? You know, you know, no, No, I'm real supportive
Speaker 1: of all my right coworkers, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And like I don't really know much about ane of
Speaker 1: that ship, you know what I mean, Like I don't.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm cool with everybody over there where you
Speaker 2: currently stand over there, you in negotiations with them.
Speaker 1: I am happy or you negotiats right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's crazy he brought that up because we just
Speaker 2: got to approach about it. I'm talking about Super Bowl
Speaker 2: around then. So after this year, don't really holler at them.
Speaker 1: You're you're able to balance traditional media and then obviously
Speaker 1: there's new waving media in the pocket, Like what's your
Speaker 1: goal in both?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, I like the the corporate stuff though,
Speaker 2: so that way, I'm still in the light, you know,
Speaker 2: still mainstream and all that, because I'm gonna do some
Speaker 2: stuff like I'm gonna call games probably next year, right,
Speaker 2: and then like I do a lot of partnerships with
Speaker 2: the NFL, and a lot of that is because I
Speaker 2: am more mainstream. But I like this side of it
Speaker 2: too though, because this is more who I really am, right,
Speaker 2: I think culturally, like just certain topics and conversations with
Speaker 2: different athletes and people. You know, I could do that
Speaker 2: any day, and I think I like that too, because
Speaker 2: I'm getting the best of both worlds.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So like it's funny like one day I'll get my
Speaker 2: take on the game on prime time, right, and then
Speaker 2: maybe the next day the same conversation, I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: it to you a wholly different way. So that's why
Speaker 2: I like both of them, you know, and it is
Speaker 2: build my brand up, right because like you talked about
Speaker 2: real estate, I do that. But also I'm trying to, like,
Speaker 2: you know, teach young boys to how to get money
Speaker 2: without doing different things.
Speaker 1: And I'll be saying, like you.
Speaker 2: Can build, you always make money, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So just using both platforms.
Speaker 4: Recently Living Death into the Eagles Hall of Fame graduation,
Speaker 4: how was that?
Speaker 1: That was cool? That was good?
Speaker 2: Like, uh, you know, when you playing, you get all
Speaker 2: the love and all that, and then when you retire
Speaker 2: you always wonder like the people still love me the same?
Speaker 2: What did the boys say from peinty four? Oh the
Speaker 2: grownd Scow screen right when I lead a game?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it was good man. They had to
Speaker 2: give a speech out you know, it was a halftime,
Speaker 2: so they turned on the lights off.
Speaker 1: See I was really I was ready for it.
Speaker 2: They had my little notes and all that, my little speech.
Speaker 2: And then when they took the lights on and the
Speaker 2: fans had all the cameras and the lights, I kind
Speaker 2: of like, oh, like, oh okay, all right. So it
Speaker 2: was I'll be thinking about like the Eagle's been around
Speaker 2: for so many years, right, and it's only about like
Speaker 2: eight of us line of us that's on the Eagles
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I played with some great players too, so to be
Speaker 2: second to that, that's that's dope. But I think the
Speaker 2: bigger one is coming sooner.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I talked about that. Yeah yeah, you got
Speaker 1: when you eligible? What year? Next year? Next year, twenty six,
Speaker 1: next year?
Speaker 4: Od it's a good six time Pro Bowl, twenty ten
Speaker 4: All Decade team, two time Super Bowl champs, six one
Speaker 4: one thousand yard Russian seasons, and it was dynamic from
Speaker 4: the passing side.
Speaker 1: To think you got a good shot. I do.
Speaker 2: I'll be looking at like who goes in right, Like, okay,
Speaker 2: this running back? I got numbers like him, I got
Speaker 2: touched like him, I got all that, you know, But
Speaker 2: it's funny. I be thinking, like, I really great a
Speaker 2: player off of.
Speaker 1: Who you did it with?
Speaker 2: Right, So like right now, Lamar Jackson, bro I haven't
Speaker 2: seen nobody play as good as him in a long time.
Speaker 1: He balling.
Speaker 2: And I look at Josh Allen, who's always been balling, right,
Speaker 2: I look this year, he's not playing as good as Lamar. Right,
Speaker 2: stats wise, but he's he balling crazy too. But the
Speaker 2: difference is, like, yo, who you deal with, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And y'all can contested this from playing
Speaker 2: a game like you got Pro Bowls here, all NBA
Speaker 2: or this that around you and really good players around you. Okay,
Speaker 2: but if you're doing that with dudes that barely making
Speaker 2: his squad, and I gotta respect him more when you
Speaker 2: talk about the m v P.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So a lot of these guys I look on this
Speaker 2: Hall of famous and running backs you know, and out
Speaker 2: of them and they play with a lot of great
Speaker 2: players where you coming to see me an Eagles or
Speaker 2: more with the Buffalo when I was giving not really
Speaker 2: good you know numbers because Buffalo wasn't like that back
Speaker 2: then like they are now.
Speaker 1: But it's hard to get thirty hundreds.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm always getting sixteen at Philly when I
Speaker 2: had Deshaun and Victim dudes. But if I'm still give
Speaker 2: you thirteen plus and all that and touchdowns in the
Speaker 2: cold and the cold with backup line and the wide
Speaker 2: receivers that go from this team and that team and
Speaker 2: this team that count for something, you know what I mean, like,
Speaker 2: one of my best friends is Frank Gorey. We always
Speaker 2: talk about that, like who we do it with?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So with that argument, who
Speaker 1: do you do with? That? Would give all of.
Speaker 3: Lamar's playing great this year, better numbers than his previous
Speaker 3: MVP seasons.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is doing it with less.
Speaker 2: I would give it to Josh. I think I think
Speaker 2: they a plus to an egg. Lamar's playing eight plus
Speaker 2: Josh playing the A. Josh is winning with dudes that
Speaker 2: wouldn't make other teams if you come up to a
Speaker 2: game plan, right, y'all noticed from playing basketball, how we're
Speaker 2: gonna stop the Ravens. All right, look, we're gonna watch
Speaker 2: up the eight because he's just then you. But damn
Speaker 2: you got another MVP can't date behind Derrick Henry right
Speaker 2: and then z Flowers and baby like you all these
Speaker 2: different dudes or Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I mean, like who Josh all?
Speaker 2: But they got two Pro Bowls, the whole team once
Speaker 2: a left tackle Deon Dalkons outherwise job, so I would
Speaker 2: give it to him. He did beat the Detroit Lions
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs. They both number one seeds, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? But but whoever wins. I don't
Speaker 1: care because Lamar killed. Lamar prosually win MVP last year.
Speaker 2: Just being respectful, like he had them same stats last
Speaker 2: year in the first half of the season, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I've never seen played as good by Lamar is truly.
Speaker 1: His next step now was to win in the playoffs though, Right,
Speaker 1: he's gonna win. You gotta be super Bowl. That's it.
Speaker 1: I only bow that ship. They be talking.
Speaker 2: Oh he's his record, Yeah, he was a lot of time.
Speaker 2: I think this is this is his best. What last
Speaker 2: year was last year? This year is probably the best
Speaker 2: change to win, you know what I mean. But but
Speaker 2: then again, like I mean, you Pastor.
Speaker 1: Mahomes ain't just he out there.
Speaker 2: Though I watched Pat in twenty nineteen opos the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: We won a championship.
Speaker 2: Phenomenal player, right, we had everybody. Travis Kelsey was still younger.
Speaker 2: He won dating that the Billionaire Chicks, and he was
Speaker 2: really engaged.
Speaker 1: We had uh, we had Tyreek Hill as a doll.
Speaker 1: All right, real quick, hold your thought. Can Tyree go
Speaker 1: back to Kansas City? Yeah, okay, we're talking about that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that letter ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway. So we was selling records, touchdowns, everything
Speaker 2: you can think about. But then I watched him last
Speaker 2: year when they lost five games, they was on the.
Speaker 1: Road, the old playoffs. He didn't look good all year.
Speaker 1: Travis wasn't bawling, and the thinking still won a championship.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, yo, hold up, you want to get
Speaker 2: the best championships at your best, at your worst, you
Speaker 2: still winning. They had the most drops in the wide receivers,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's like Jason, like,
Speaker 2: I gotta make sure this motherfucker's dead.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got the So you got to beat Pat, right, Pat,
Speaker 1: I do Bro.
Speaker 3: And that's a lot of things too. If you correlate
Speaker 3: that to basketball, when Stephan the Warriors were running, there
Speaker 3: was a lot of good teams that just couldn't get
Speaker 3: past step and the Warriors.
Speaker 1: I didn't think of that like Bronchi. It was somebody else. Dang.
Speaker 3: You never know what happens with Harden in Houston, with
Speaker 3: Dame Lillard and Portland when they had them good teams, Like,
Speaker 3: there was teams that were good, but they just ran
Speaker 3: into the Warriors.
Speaker 2: The Houston Rockets. That's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: We start talking on sports here, I be talking all day.
Speaker 1: I saw.
Speaker 4: What happened to the Eagles team. Why y'all coudn't get
Speaker 4: over the hunt when he was That's a good question.
Speaker 4: And uh our deepens won that good officer?
Speaker 1: Ye want that?
Speaker 2: Good officers crazy, right? And I think I think we
Speaker 2: put too much now I'm older looking back on it.
Speaker 2: We put too much pressure on Mike, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like like Mike was nice, but the way
Speaker 2: Mike play is like he's reckless because he's just a dog,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I ain't sliding, you know,
Speaker 2: and then like making him throw the ball all game
Speaker 2: like that. You know, you can get picks and et cetera.
Speaker 2: Or if you watch like the way they play with Lamar,
Speaker 2: even Jalen hurts. You know, some games they will throw
Speaker 2: the ball a lot more because depending on how the
Speaker 2: game is. But to have a real good offense, I
Speaker 2: think we should have Mike run it, you know a
Speaker 2: couple of times game maybe not going over thirty passes.
Speaker 2: I think if you break it down like that, yo,
Speaker 2: the game's more controlled and you're not putting that much
Speaker 2: on your quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that too, you know, but just because we had
Speaker 2: a lot of turnovers, fumbles and picks and this and that.
Speaker 2: But I think if you played at a better like game plan,
Speaker 2: you know, with with trying to put because Mike was
Speaker 2: so good, you know what I mean. They made him
Speaker 2: do everything. And I think even when you watched the day,
Speaker 2: like you got the superstar, but you need them other players,
Speaker 2: and if you can control the superstar enough, I think
Speaker 2: you know, it goes a little differently.
Speaker 4: Yeah, career, yeah stopped your two and eagles ended at
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: He was traded for Key Call Alonzo. Man, your boy,
Speaker 2: let me stop you real quick. Serious question though, do you.
Speaker 1: Know what that is? Though? I have no idea that bro.
Speaker 2: The day when I heard the trade Drew Ro's house,
Speaker 2: he said, shady, he said, this is not a joke.
Speaker 1: You've been traded.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, what are you talking about? It's like,
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? He said, y'all they traded
Speaker 2: you to the Bills.
Speaker 1: I'm in Miamis. I'm like what.
Speaker 2: And the crazy thing is like, after the season, you know,
Speaker 2: most players they pack up their locker because the football
Speaker 2: ain't like basketball. You can be going tomorrow with a
Speaker 2: five year contract. But I never I never touched my stuff.
Speaker 1: I know what it is. I mean, you neverd than me,
Speaker 1: so I never really looked like that dog. And he
Speaker 1: traded me. And then when I after the bills, they
Speaker 1: said it was the easiest best trader ever had.
Speaker 2: They said Chip costs and hey, you guys be interested
Speaker 2: in Lashawn McCoy. So the gym was like, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: he said. But I was like, they're gonna they're gonna off.
Speaker 2: They won't want too much, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: they gonna want.
Speaker 1: Too much for him.
Speaker 2: So he said it hitting back like yeah, we would,
Speaker 2: but you know, we probably can't afford what you want.
Speaker 2: Chip Chip said no, not the GM Chip. He said, no,
Speaker 2: we're gonna we just want Kilonzo and the gym. At
Speaker 2: the time, it was like when he said that, I
Speaker 2: was still waiting, like like, all right.
Speaker 1: Him and who else? He's like, no, that's it. He said.
Speaker 2: He was like, oh deal, he said it hung up.
Speaker 2: He said, I did the deal, befre eving how that
Speaker 2: the coach at the time was Rex Ryan. He says,
Speaker 2: already knew it was a dumb deal, and I was
Speaker 2: like wow, that's how you.
Speaker 1: Do a drade.
Speaker 3: But talk to us about chip back up, because we've
Speaker 3: heard a lot of ship and we haven't heard it
Speaker 3: from a player that played for him.
Speaker 1: Though, Oh wow, that's crazy. Yeah he was. What you
Speaker 1: don't know about it? What you want of those how much?
Speaker 1: How it ain't ship? He is? For what I heard? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he bad coach? Well no, no, no, no, I should hear a
Speaker 1: bad coach. He don't know. He don't know how to
Speaker 1: reach the room. He don't know how to relate to
Speaker 1: his players, Like I played on teams where that's a
Speaker 1: bad coach. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get away with it on certain levels,
Speaker 3: like you can get away with it in college because
Speaker 3: dictatorship in the pros is different.
Speaker 1: I mean, but he was winning up what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You can get away with it in college because they
Speaker 3: college kids have to go now they don't, but back
Speaker 3: then they had to buy. And he had great teams
Speaker 3: at Orgond. But it's a different style and and and
Speaker 3: energy of coaching obviously college and pros.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: He the only player he only coach ever been around.
Speaker 2: He got multiple college championships. No, yeah, so it ain't
Speaker 2: work too well? Zero, he win it at all saving
Speaker 2: he ain't. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So he't winning
Speaker 2: no championship. That sh it ain't working. Yeah, he's just
Speaker 2: sucking everybody.
Speaker 1: Seeing they got thirty we'll talk to Oh yeah, he
Speaker 1: don't only coach.
Speaker 2: I'm telling any color that the white boys on the
Speaker 2: squad don't like him, and none of the brothers like him.
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen that. At least you're gonna have
Speaker 1: something on this side. None of that.
Speaker 2: And he was just different, Like I mean, simple things
Speaker 2: like man like y'all playing on teams with some white
Speaker 2: dudes that listen to rock or or or yeah, rock
Speaker 2: and roll, and his brothers listen to the straight trap music.
Speaker 2: And then some dudes that came up they want some nas,
Speaker 2: they want some so everything's different.
Speaker 1: He like none of that. He would be like, hey,
Speaker 1: in the locker room, y'all put your head set to
Speaker 1: man ain't no music.
Speaker 2: So all the and I was one of the players,
Speaker 2: it's like hold on, hold on, like you the coach,
Speaker 2: but this is our team, though you can't tell what
Speaker 2: we listened to. And he ain't like some of that,
Speaker 2: you know, simple shit like when I was a rookie,
Speaker 2: you know, devixing something same.
Speaker 1: They had the big cars and all that, and I
Speaker 1: had to wait to get that. So once I.
Speaker 2: Earned it, I was trying to get my big wheels
Speaker 2: like they didn't come to the games. Right, You get
Speaker 2: the outfit on a nice little.
Speaker 1: Take the pictures, you know, because you just fall on. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what the oh here did it. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna when I get it.
Speaker 2: This dude, he said, yeah, Manu. From now I'm on.
Speaker 2: You know, y'all drive y'all cars to the game on Saturday,
Speaker 2: and then we ride the school bus to the game.
Speaker 2: Because we're a team, we gotta look the same.
Speaker 1: He said.
Speaker 2: Then, African, you could drive. You could take your fancy cars,
Speaker 2: you know, to the house. I'm like, so wait, you.
Speaker 1: Want to control what cars you drive from or how
Speaker 1: we come into the games? Slave me telling me Bro, I.
Speaker 2: Mean I'm talking about Bro has stuff like uh, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm black.
Speaker 1: I like black socks.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just like black socks, right, he said, Yo,
Speaker 2: on my team, we only were white, sox, I say,
Speaker 2: coach Man, every year, I'm gonna go for like twelve
Speaker 2: hundred and almost fourte hundred yards like I do.
Speaker 1: It in black socks.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm trying to like joke with you because I
Speaker 2: don't want to make this awkward for you because you
Speaker 2: the coach.
Speaker 1: And I'm the player.
Speaker 2: But we talking about socks. I said, we're talking about
Speaker 2: socks right now. Coach, he said that that's the rules.
Speaker 2: And he never was like confrontational. He was soft, like
Speaker 2: trying to like reason with me, you know. So I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, coach, you got it. So I would
Speaker 2: wear black socks and put white tape on it. So
Speaker 2: when I go out there, he said, I could see
Speaker 2: the black. I said, you see white, you see the
Speaker 2: white tape.
Speaker 1: It's just so many little things.
Speaker 2: But he would he would model turn my sleep we
Speaker 2: get so he's like, yo, whenning teams need to sleep
Speaker 2: a certain amount of hours. I said, well, look, coach,
Speaker 2: you know some of these dudes are young. They won't
Speaker 2: step outside.
Speaker 1: That we win the game. They want to party a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: Right with with with girls they age. Uh, some of
Speaker 2: these dudes they got the older, they got kids.
Speaker 1: The baby might wake up.
Speaker 2: Two year old, wine year old or whatever at two
Speaker 2: in the morning.
Speaker 1: They got to get up.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to air that, so he would he
Speaker 2: would he would drug tests, and he would and he would.
Speaker 1: Uh he drug tested y'all.
Speaker 2: Now I didn't really complain about but I would have
Speaker 2: to speak up because, you know, because nobody really want
Speaker 2: to go against him.
Speaker 1: He was one of them dudes.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, look, man, like dudes don't feel
Speaker 2: comfortable smoking or I mean, they're for comfortable.
Speaker 1: Coming to you about your drug testing.
Speaker 2: Like if the rules for the NFL is you drunk
Speaker 2: on whatever it is and they pass, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about right now?
Speaker 2: I said, coach, Man, I said, listen, brus a football team, coach,
Speaker 2: this is our last real issue, I said, coach, it's
Speaker 2: our football team.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: But listen, yo, you're running this ship like a like
Speaker 2: a like a jail, like a po office. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, and you're gonna lose. Do they
Speaker 2: gonna be started coming because they're gonna rumors. I ain't
Speaker 2: going to Philly. They're talking about coach drug testom every
Speaker 2: time they go to practice. Was he was he the
Speaker 2: coach to give a Roley Cooper an extension? He's another one.
Speaker 2: Huh yeah yeah, so that's even worse. They'll lets you
Speaker 2: know what type of person after you publicly at the concert.
Speaker 2: Niggah this out loud.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's still just right come
Speaker 1: back and that's crazy. Yo.
Speaker 2: Look when he was there right check this out. So
Speaker 2: I told you he was Mike for everything, because Mike's
Speaker 2: the OG. Mike said, we're gonna do it where it is.
Speaker 2: So Cooper does that little stuff you just said, right,
Speaker 2: So it's everywhere now, so we So it's a line
Speaker 2: of dudes in there that they want to holler at him.
Speaker 1: That was cool cool. He in the office is younger,
Speaker 1: so it's weird for me because now I'm man. But
Speaker 1: he look at me like I'm a big bro. You know.
Speaker 1: He texted me like he's sorry and all that. I
Speaker 1: ain't really hollering at the time.
Speaker 2: So anyway, when he come there, Chip made him wait
Speaker 2: like a day or two, so we ain't seen right
Speaker 2: outside of mind, we ain't really see. But it's on
Speaker 2: the meeting everywhere. So when he gets there, it's after practice.
Speaker 2: He calls all in the main like meeting room and
Speaker 2: he brings Coop out there. He lets Coop say sorry
Speaker 2: whatever this third and then he hides him again for
Speaker 2: another like a couple of days, so we never really
Speaker 2: seen him.
Speaker 1: He had the day he was gonna show up.
Speaker 2: He had Mike tell the team, I look, he said, look, man,
Speaker 2: you know I'm from the South.
Speaker 1: I'm from this and that.
Speaker 2: And if y'a ain't ever say nothing about somebody you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, or say words about this and
Speaker 2: that behind closed doors, you know what I mean, y'all
Speaker 2: can't be offended, you know what I mean. You could
Speaker 2: be mad, but you gotta forgive your brother because y'all
Speaker 2: did it before, so I get his message right. You know,
Speaker 2: we all say things that we don't mean, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So then when Cook came back, it wasn't as bad
Speaker 2: because you know, the big.
Speaker 1: Dogs spoke on it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But if it was anybody else, Chip Wanta did all that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And it is a tough
Speaker 2: situation because it's real. I mean, a white dude saying
Speaker 2: that about blacks, it's a bigger thing. But he just
Speaker 2: was good at at like shit like that, where if
Speaker 2: it was one of us, he wouldn't did all that.
Speaker 4: And a lot of shit in my mouth, but seeing
Speaker 4: the H word never came out my mom for no
Speaker 4: reason yeung fuck behind closed doors or not that those
Speaker 4: words never come on my mouth.
Speaker 1: I have no reason to.
Speaker 4: So you didn't say that before you got comfortable saying
Speaker 4: to say it like that, right, and you know what
Speaker 4: to get to It might be it is the music.
Speaker 1: They singing every song word for words, so you expect
Speaker 1: him to be the pause at that point. Yeah. Nah,
Speaker 1: but you know, but I went on. I went on music.
Speaker 2: That's not why he said it. He wasn't rapping, Nah,
Speaker 2: he wasn't. He was at a country he was I
Speaker 2: don't know, Chesney ches so it was like he was
Speaker 2: black dude, that all white country. So all that concert
Speaker 2: and uh, the do was being he wasn't listening to
Speaker 2: cool he ain't know he was. He was trying to
Speaker 2: your backstage all that type of stuff. And he said,
Speaker 2: I kick your nigger asses.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 5: We was like whoa.
Speaker 2: But to his defense, he said he didn't. He was
Speaker 2: like he was mad and the first thing came in
Speaker 2: his mind to make this guy man defended.
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's weird, that's we that's I didn't see
Speaker 4: the whole I didn't get into it with a whole
Speaker 4: bunch of Karens and different and I ain't never called racist.
Speaker 1: I might have called a bitch a stupid hole or
Speaker 1: some ship like that, dumb bitch like that. We get it.
Speaker 1: But it's crazy though. I'll say.
Speaker 2: Yo the same way, like Yo, if I'm mad at
Speaker 2: the white person, like I ain't the first time feeling
Speaker 2: to call him that, you came all type of stuff.
Speaker 2: You can call him that. And that's why I really
Speaker 2: had an issue like that. Maybe bro might be you know,
Speaker 2: but I mean, but was doing stuff like man, we
Speaker 2: be dudes. I'm married of practice. I'm like, yo, how
Speaker 2: the hell is this dude on the team he went
Speaker 2: to organ I'm like, yo, you got a dude that
Speaker 2: played at the freaking Alabama and he black?
Speaker 1: Right? Why he in the game? We had white but
Speaker 1: series I'm like, yo, all these.
Speaker 2: He don't even know how he make the squad. And
Speaker 2: I might even try and be funny because there's some
Speaker 2: white boys that can play them. Yeah, we don't have
Speaker 2: them white jus.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm say.
Speaker 5: If you want get the white boys, I'm cool with
Speaker 5: all that.
Speaker 1: I love like the white team that's got all my boys.
Speaker 2: My best friends is white, you know, but give me
Speaker 2: some good ones, though, I don't know brothers that's black
Speaker 2: that can't.
Speaker 1: Win.
Speaker 2: Well he I can go ahead for hours that dude,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I could see somebody suppose to you.
Speaker 1: I would have made it you too, I think about it.
Speaker 1: I didn't really. I didn't really the coach too much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want a championship with Brady and mahons, what's
Speaker 4: the contrast between them to a leadership.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: So some of the similarities, I would say, like, uh, competitors.
Speaker 2: Brady ain't trying to lose nothing like, and he's all
Speaker 2: nice and all that. He turns it on with it's
Speaker 2: time to win. Should I remember when I man, he
Speaker 2: got some of the stories to tell you about Brady.
Speaker 2: He just love to win, Bro at all costs. At
Speaker 2: the same way, dudes ain't catching the ball, ain't playing
Speaker 2: a certain way.
Speaker 1: Dudes hurt. I got it. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I remember one time I had this game and we're
Speaker 2: trying to I guess, clinch the playoffs whatever, and and
Speaker 2: the tackle at the time. I won't say his name,
Speaker 2: but he was acting like he was hurt. Now, you know,
Speaker 2: some of the big us be soft as hell, like Bro.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, put your helmet, all put
Speaker 5: your up, so let's go play you six ' eight.
Speaker 2: Like, come on, man, talking about this his ankle or
Speaker 2: it's toe or anyway. So patting in the training room.
Speaker 2: So for the whole week, he's checking up on him,
Speaker 2: checking up on him. Now the training room all in
Speaker 2: basketball and football, it's like the hangout spot.
Speaker 1: All right. So about about Friday, Pat coming there? Like
Speaker 1: is he playing? What's going on with him? Now?
Speaker 2: Past the type of person where this is why I
Speaker 2: love Pat because he's hisself. He don't try like he's
Speaker 2: something he's not.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. He gonna he's his own person.
Speaker 1: He listened to his music. You're gonna listen to some J.
Speaker 1: Cole with some light stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He's himself. That's why I love Pat. The dude now
Speaker 2: had been the quarterback, Hey man, how you feeling all week?
Speaker 2: He's been trying to butter him.
Speaker 1: Up because he's a tackle. You need him.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm still not comfortable. He's doing all this ship his
Speaker 2: shoulders and all that. I ain't feeling good right, So
Speaker 2: I'm watching it, you know, and watching and ship. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh man, bro, bro, playing Pat walk Off, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: win it anyway.
Speaker 1: What he wore outing and he won that fucking game.
Speaker 2: That's the type of players, even when you watch games
Speaker 2: where they ain't catching the balls or they ain't doing
Speaker 2: this and that. The second hand, he gonna do it
Speaker 2: if he's running, if he's just stending it. So you
Speaker 2: can see the greatness because I played with Vic McNab,
Speaker 2: Josh Allen malmes Bread, so I've seen all the best ones.
Speaker 2: But when you see the real grace, you see the difference.
Speaker 2: Pat Brady, like I married the super Bowl man Like, well, Brady,
Speaker 2: because you asked about the similarities or whatever. We're playing
Speaker 2: the Bucks earlier that year, the Bucks beat the hell
Speaker 2: out of us. So the coach is like, yo, look man,
Speaker 2: you know they're gonna play this coverage, this and the third.
Speaker 2: So Brady used to have his own meetings. So he
Speaker 2: called the skills just like quarter the quarterbacks, running backs,
Speaker 2: wi I receiver tight ends. He said, y'all here with
Speaker 2: coach said, they're not gonna play us in that ship
Speaker 2: he started.
Speaker 1: We met together. Then when we left, he sent this
Speaker 1: individual like uh.
Speaker 2: Like recordings like he was in his crib watching tape
Speaker 2: he going over every d back.
Speaker 1: This is super Bowl. It's just crazy.
Speaker 2: He's like, Yo, this dude right here. You know he
Speaker 2: lacks long speed, so he holds a lot. You can
Speaker 2: beat him with go balls.
Speaker 1: This due right here.
Speaker 2: You know he doesn't do well against Oh, he's only
Speaker 2: getting his own.
Speaker 5: He goes to all the players, starters and back ups.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn this, This dude must have.
Speaker 2: Took two days, no eating, no sleeping, going over every position.
Speaker 2: So he said, look, they're gonna plays in this coverage.
Speaker 2: When we got to the game, they played this in
Speaker 2: the same coverage that Brady talked about.
Speaker 1: What the coaches saying this.
Speaker 2: He has his own little meeting saying they're gonna do that,
Speaker 2: and he did it. I'm like, this white boy is cold,
Speaker 2: cold bro, that's hard different, So.
Speaker 1: Come on man. And then they both like it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Because when I went to the Chiefs, Pat was asking
Speaker 2: me about Josh Allen because Josh's talent is his mom.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He wants he wanted to know, and he got brother,
Speaker 2: and you were loveless.
Speaker 1: He felt like a brother and you can't chump me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then when I went to the Bucks, Brady was
Speaker 2: low key asked me about Pat. I said, look at
Speaker 2: these niggas, y'all. Okay, they low trying.
Speaker 1: To figure out what you know what I mean, But
Speaker 1: that's cold.
Speaker 3: That's like like name three greats that you bounce from,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's just like they
Speaker 3: want to get any any any edge up or any
Speaker 3: advice they can get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, freaking Josh. They all got dog on them.
Speaker 2: Only name about Josh's dog though, because I'm a Pat
Speaker 2: Simmer with the dog. He like a brother at home, Josh,
Speaker 2: you can come at him a little bit because we're teammates,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But certain things he ain't
Speaker 2: gonna let fly. You know, certain quarterbacks mentioned some white boys,
Speaker 2: you know, brothers can get away with doing a little extra.
Speaker 1: He ain't with it because in the football game, he
Speaker 1: gonna run you over.
Speaker 2: We're playing a game.
Speaker 1: Dude was talking ship to him and all that. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Bat he tried to run him over. He's a linebacker.
Speaker 2: That's how you play. So when anybody play with him,
Speaker 2: they love him because he just you know, because most
Speaker 2: quarterbacks ain't gonna give you everything because they protecting themselves,
Speaker 2: you know, he ain't with all that ship.
Speaker 1: Oh we practicing. I'm practicing. Oh it's a fighting practice.
Speaker 1: I'm in there fighting too. You'll never see that quarterback
Speaker 1: came home surpassed Brady. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's gonna me a lot though, and it's gonna be easy.
Speaker 2: But I think where they at today, I think he's
Speaker 2: way more eventsd than than Tom. You know, you look
Speaker 2: at this, the MVPs, how fast the yards. Think about
Speaker 2: this for a second. The worst we've ever seen Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes is an ABC championship game. That's that's I mean,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Every year he gone and
Speaker 2: and he's more of the main reason. I think some
Speaker 2: of Brady's joints. He was still just getting up in there,
Speaker 2: you know what i mean, learning a little bit, you know,
Speaker 2: letting the defense kind of play it out. Now, the
Speaker 2: way Brady finished that shit was crazy. Like I leave
Speaker 2: the New England, I'm gonna get a championship. Every other
Speaker 2: year I'm in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Like Tom.
Speaker 2: Is definitely different, and he was forty years old doing it,
Speaker 2: you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna be hard to do.
Speaker 2: When the Kaepernick situation was going on, what was the
Speaker 2: vibe and how would the players talking, you know, when
Speaker 2: Jared Jones was not letting the players kneel and stuff like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we hated that though, you know because it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know the reason why kat was was doing
Speaker 2: what he was doing, right, because everybody there on the
Speaker 2: paint of it. But I definitely, now that I'm older,
Speaker 2: I respect it because he brought light to it, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And sometimes in football or in
Speaker 2: sports and it's like you matter it masters you who's
Speaker 2: saying something or what they're saying is about and when
Speaker 2: you don't really see that and not with him because
Speaker 2: he wasn't the player to be you know, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: but the message was powerful. I'm like, damn because like
Speaker 2: when you play ball, the team and everybody teat you
Speaker 2: a certain way and you black and all that, right,
Speaker 2: but then you got homeboys, or you might see someone
Speaker 2: on TV that might lose a life, right and they black,
Speaker 2: but they don't have the star part. You've got shit
Speaker 2: still wrong. You get what I'm saying, still hurt, So
Speaker 2: you start looking at things differently.
Speaker 1: Then what with that?
Speaker 2: Or if I wasn't all decade running back, ya, I
Speaker 2: that could have been me on it, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So so that was tough to deal with, man,
Speaker 2: because then you see the ownership, like and the bills
Speaker 2: is really really good at it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: good ownership.
Speaker 1: So it was cool. But other teams right talking at
Speaker 1: home Boy, they're like, yo, man, we can't kneel. They like,
Speaker 1: what is this American? What do you mean you can't kneel?
Speaker 1: How can they tell you that?
Speaker 2: And they don't want to upset their season ticket holders
Speaker 2: and and I'm like, so, okay, so you don't really.
Speaker 1: Care for me for real. It's a business to you though,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So when that whole thing is going on, you really
Speaker 2: was questioning a lot of relationships with different people in
Speaker 2: high and higher positions because like, do.
Speaker 1: You really care for me for real? Or is it
Speaker 1: just you know what I mean, livelihood on the line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some people don't understand.
Speaker 2: And then the thing for him is he probably never
Speaker 2: been like another you know, starter and all that, right,
Speaker 2: but he still would have been on somebody's team.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm Saying's no doubt, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like, because he spoke out on something
Speaker 2: now he.
Speaker 1: Can't play, but they still have an issue about right.
Speaker 2: But back then though, when I was on the other side,
Speaker 2: when I first heard about the whole thing, I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 2: this dude making a big were like why he And
Speaker 2: I was saying like if it was a bigger player
Speaker 2: like a Brady he kneel and all that, they'd have
Speaker 2: found a way to make it okay and say Brady
Speaker 2: was black, you know what I mean, because he matters.
Speaker 2: But that's how we always thinking that first before that
Speaker 2: ain't the main thing, you know, that don't matter. That
Speaker 2: matters what was right and wrong, and what he was
Speaker 2: speaking on was right. At the time, a lot of players,
Speaker 2: like even myself, we didn't really understand what he was
Speaker 2: really saying.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: But to your defense, I mean, like I said, you
Speaker 3: worked your way out of that and your in your
Speaker 3: your your own bubble, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: I think he made everyone kind of look outside the bubble,
Speaker 3: like what's really going on to our people? Pa upbringing
Speaker 3: a lot of talent from out that way.
Speaker 1: Yes, you do yourself. Aaron Donald, Saquan, Darrell Reeves, Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: to name a few, were for the same time. He
Speaker 1: from like the outskirts.
Speaker 2: It's the water out there is that the air is
Speaker 2: Ricky waters, Ricky running with cond like Parson, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Come on, oh, MICUs Coaston Marcus Coaston
Speaker 2: receiver from the stat A couple of cats, Yeah, more
Speaker 2: than a couple.
Speaker 1: What was it like coming up out there? I was cool,
Speaker 1: it was good.
Speaker 2: You know, sports was always a thing. It's like either
Speaker 2: you played sports or you was in the streets. Right
Speaker 2: you don't have an older brother he played in the pros,
Speaker 2: and you know then I have my pops. It's funny,
Speaker 2: like I don't know how everybody is like raising the
Speaker 2: areas but around from like if you was really really
Speaker 2: good at something sports wise, like certain places you just
Speaker 2: couldn't go. And I don't know if it's like that
Speaker 2: now you know what I'm saying. Now, nothing one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Kids can get in trouble anything they do. But it's
Speaker 2: like certain certain times at night, like certain ogs wouldn't
Speaker 2: let me be around that long.
Speaker 1: Okay, shit you doing okay? Cool? All right, man, get
Speaker 1: your ass home, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it was more of like a whole community that
Speaker 2: was looking out where Now I be fun like some
Speaker 2: of the ogi's now be kind of okay with the
Speaker 2: young boys.
Speaker 1: Don't stand in the mono crash missions, right right. So
Speaker 1: back then that we had that type of environment my town.
Speaker 1: I heard you was nice and who I was? They
Speaker 1: told you. I was like I who was your game?
Speaker 1: Like everything? They told you that too. I think you
Speaker 1: told me that. You know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 2: No, no, you heard that was nice.
Speaker 1: I'm saying to tell you that. But I heard you
Speaker 1: was nice. I heard you was nice from you, though
Speaker 1: I didn't hear no when else I heard you. I
Speaker 1: gotta be honest. Dog, Listen, I told you. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you again. I'm not gonna let you disrespect Chuck like this, yo.
Speaker 1: That's my listen. That was my childhood idol. Dog in
Speaker 1: my room cause a million irish you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: not even pause and all that like that was my man.
Speaker 2: So one time I'm in Virginia with Mike Vick, my man, right,
Speaker 2: we he had like a little vent whatever we in
Speaker 2: the club, and I think my third year I was young.
Speaker 1: Him and Chuck from the same they from the same hood.
Speaker 2: When in Virginia, I'm like, oh, ship, I'm telling my
Speaker 2: man yo Iverish over there right.
Speaker 1: I'm an Iverson fan. You know.
Speaker 6: Now it's him that what's up on love, you know,
Speaker 6: the whole time ship.
Speaker 1: So we see him so big, like my man shady.
Speaker 1: Sohow man, you know, you know, nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: So he like, now if you know a.
Speaker 2: He's always like, uh, this's my first meeting. He's always
Speaker 2: like happy and love. Yeah, okay, it's all man, it's
Speaker 2: all little nigga. Man.
Speaker 1: He calls home, come here. He said, what I talk
Speaker 1: about this little nigga right here? Man?
Speaker 2: So now I'm like, oh, he knows me though, So
Speaker 2: now I'm thinking, hey.
Speaker 1: I know me. He says, yeah, you said he he
Speaker 1: reminded you of you. We used to play football. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, he was nice like that, and I
Speaker 1: hate him thinking that.
Speaker 6: So showed up that he was nice things like that.
Speaker 2: So I go I I didn't say this because I
Speaker 2: was still but when he walked off, I said, Mike,
Speaker 2: that's crazy.
Speaker 1: He said that about me in high school.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, damn, dog, he I remind him. He
Speaker 2: reminds me of me when I played high school basketball.
Speaker 2: I have been like that.
Speaker 5: So we basically we got the same type of perspective,
Speaker 5: like he think he.
Speaker 1: Was out them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, so something I said, so so so hey,
Speaker 2: I just seen him at this We did a little
Speaker 2: arrest on him in Philly. Man, I want to tell
Speaker 2: you this story and ship. So when you see the
Speaker 2: episode the Phillips Mutual, Bro, I.
Speaker 5: Mean you know what I'm saying, so that when he's
Speaker 5: saying like that, just know this he thought of me
Speaker 5: like on the on the court.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, so but your last organized basketball was
Speaker 3: but seventh grade something like that.
Speaker 1: Hold on, no, look, no, hold.
Speaker 5: Up, he said, stuffing like no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: you're successful Hooper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did y'all did y'all play freshman? Seventh grade?
Speaker 2: Is freshman or no?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't. Ninth grade was my freshman, but I
Speaker 1: never played for freshman basketball.
Speaker 2: Well what about in the seventh eighth grade? I think
Speaker 2: I sat the bench in one of the years. But
Speaker 2: I was good enough to be on the bench as
Speaker 2: a seventh grade of ninth grade eighteen and the A grade,
Speaker 2: I was nice and the freshman.
Speaker 1: But then I went to just I can't say it's
Speaker 1: just seventh grader on the ninth grade. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: middle school in high school was one. No, but it's
Speaker 1: the same, like it's the public school. So you're saying
Speaker 1: you were good enough to go sit on the freshman
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Bro, That's all I'm saying. Were
Speaker 1: you good enough to play though? Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, well no, I mean I mean I played like
Speaker 2: I played, So I played the apri Yard was nice
Speaker 2: though the Apriy I was really I was.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: As a seventh grader, I was playing with the ninth graders.
Speaker 1: I didn't start, but I still was playing something. No.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, Okay, so maybe I'm chipping because my
Speaker 4: high school is nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
Speaker 1: It is, but basketball, I didn't go to school with
Speaker 1: the ninth graders. They just let you go play with
Speaker 1: the high school team. They do it somewhere, they don't
Speaker 1: do it everywhere. In some cities you can go up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, so what I'm so, what I'm saying is there
Speaker 1: there there's one. So how can you be in the
Speaker 1: high school. It's just probably like their filter high school,
Speaker 1: their their feeder high school. That the middle school they
Speaker 1: probably get to go to their feeder high school.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's this, you know, And I didn't play high
Speaker 2: school basketball.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But when I watch some of these players, they talk
Speaker 2: about comparisons, right, you compare everything. So when I watch
Speaker 2: guys like AI and I see the quickness, quick twitch, fast, explosive. Okay,
Speaker 2: then I see like Kyrie Irving, I see his little
Speaker 2: mixture are cool.
Speaker 1: You had a lot of that. You definitely had that
Speaker 1: on the field. You definitely that. Yeah, you massedop and start,
Speaker 1: no question. And I was.
Speaker 2: I was working Hall of when I was in high school.
Speaker 2: I kind of stopped working as hard. But in high
Speaker 2: school work hard as ship. So all the hundred five
Speaker 2: hundred jump shots in a game or a day, but
Speaker 2: we'll never.
Speaker 1: Know, We'll never know, I said, well, never know, we'll
Speaker 1: never know. That's a true story of ash. It's a
Speaker 1: real story.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn me, I want to I want to
Speaker 2: say it so fast, like damn, that's crazy because I
Speaker 2: thought the same thing about you.
Speaker 3: But now we're done talking about the bullshit. Back to
Speaker 3: the real ship. What you really can do amazing?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: You know, God Willing Hall of Fame football career almost
Speaker 3: never happened. Compound fracture you had suffered in high school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened. Yeah, just man like I was. That
Speaker 1: was crazy.
Speaker 2: So you know, at this time, right I'm the number
Speaker 2: one running back in the country, probably like eight or
Speaker 2: something overall. You know what I'm saying, Like seventeen scholarships.
Speaker 1: I was doing my thing.
Speaker 2: Then my senior year, I had like a thousand yards
Speaker 2: and three games. I was really balling. So I bring
Speaker 2: my ankle to to our rival school, damn, and then
Speaker 2: I go, Ricky your name Ricky, I go for the.
Speaker 1: And I get hurt. So I'm probably getting calls a
Speaker 1: day from my head coaches.
Speaker 2: You know, he's seventeen. You think you knew everything, you know,
Speaker 2: and I got hurt. Man, Like I should all stopped.
Speaker 2: Like I went from seventy eight scholarships to like four,
Speaker 2: I meanber I committed to Miami, you know, and then
Speaker 2: I had to go to prep school. Like we had
Speaker 2: my ankle and I stopped going to school. I was
Speaker 2: all messed up, and these dudes would be at my
Speaker 2: school recruiting dudes.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't even got hot at me. You know, it
Speaker 1: was just a five star. You were just play bagging me. Dog.
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll This with Reggie Bush's Reggie Bush running through.
Speaker 1: He hosted you on there your visit right, come on, bro?
Speaker 1: Was he had it laid out.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about we went shopping and ship this before
Speaker 2: and I am, we want shopping.
Speaker 1: They closed the store down. They're like, get what you want,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Kim was out this one.
Speaker 1: I didn't know who kin was, but she was around.
Speaker 1: She was all right, she was cool.
Speaker 2: Uh they had all they had all the girls had everything.
Speaker 2: But that was a nice little trip. But anyway, so
Speaker 2: I go from that to us he not even answering
Speaker 2: my calls.
Speaker 1: That's dead. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That it was over after that, and I ain't really
Speaker 2: had no more school. So then Penn State was in school.
Speaker 2: I wanted to want to play for It's like a hometown,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. School, But paternal was different.
Speaker 2: I want, you know, rest in peace. I won't get
Speaker 2: into that. But he had his own perception of me
Speaker 2: before he even knew me, you know. But that didn't
Speaker 2: work out. Then Pitt they want it was an NFL coach.
Speaker 2: It just worked out because he's he's like me, NFL coach.
Speaker 2: He want ballers, you know what I mean. He don't
Speaker 2: care about all the little stuff and I remember I
Speaker 2: was gonna commit to Penn State anyway, just to prove
Speaker 2: Joe Patterning wrong that I'm a good kid and all that.
Speaker 2: And my dad was like, nah, yo, you gave Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: your word that you would at least take one visit
Speaker 2: before you make a decision. That's why I've been saying,
Speaker 2: like your real dad's matter though, because like something small
Speaker 2: like that. Hold up, man, you gave me your word.
Speaker 2: You're going back up there. I'm like, but Dad, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say I don't care you getting your word.
Speaker 2: So I go back up there, and I loved it.
Speaker 2: Now the team won, that's good, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean. But the players were like me, city kids,
Speaker 1: you know it was it was cool.
Speaker 2: The coaches was NFL coaches, so they liked talent versus seniorities.
Speaker 2: The politics it worked out, you know. He gave me
Speaker 2: a chance to get my name back. I'm every telling
Speaker 2: me like, yo, you know, so I go from up
Speaker 2: here to down here. I'd like to take you to
Speaker 2: rehab and get back to feeling like yourself.
Speaker 1: So when I was in pres school, I didn't even start. Dude.
Speaker 2: Some dude beat me out because he was going to Miami.
Speaker 2: I imagine me, you know, how play. I'm like quick
Speaker 2: and shifted. I was running dudes, though I was out
Speaker 2: of shape, you know what I mean. I was all
Speaker 2: messed up anyway, So they would come see him, the
Speaker 2: other kid going to Miami, and then it took me
Speaker 2: by the year and a half they really get myself together.
Speaker 1: So then I leave during the year I go to PIT.
Speaker 1: So now my mind is differently.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's my second chance, you know, and all these
Speaker 2: people count me out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I went from people.
Speaker 2: I was on my just doing everything I wanted to
Speaker 2: do with me, with my boys, this and that there,
Speaker 2: and now they kind of left me, nobody texting me.
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, cool.
Speaker 2: So when I got the PIT, I did my thing,
Speaker 2: you know, only really did like a year and a
Speaker 2: half and I went straight to the league. But that
Speaker 2: was a good point for me because when I got
Speaker 2: to the NFL, you know, I still had like the
Speaker 2: Hanger hang Ons and my homeboys and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: but I slowly left them earlier in my career because
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 1: Like how I like how people really treated me. It
Speaker 1: was hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying I'm seventeen, like I ain't.
Speaker 1: You know people do they thirty and they played the league?
Speaker 1: Maybe they in the same they early. I'm seventeen. So
Speaker 1: that was that was a good That was a good
Speaker 1: one for me, know to learn from. You know, mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Where the name nickname shady come from?
Speaker 2: Damn?
Speaker 1: Oh my mom gave me that name. She was always
Speaker 1: shady as a kid.
Speaker 2: Like I'd be happy sad, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 2: up and down. Yeah, and the neighbors picked up on
Speaker 2: kids in school. So but I ain't shave no more
Speaker 2: that ship.
Speaker 1: This is a name, you know.
Speaker 2: The next day I'm good on him, like, no more,
Speaker 2: what are you staying from sa Quan? He broke your record,
Speaker 2: he don his stand. Yeah, so we we are so
Speaker 2: and se Can always been cool from Pennsylvania whatever. And
Speaker 2: you know he was talking about even coming to Uh
Speaker 2: to the Eagles. I'm like, yeah, what's the right you
Speaker 2: know places? And Third, we do a golf We did
Speaker 2: a golf out in this year about this the year
Speaker 2: I knew we have a big year, not like this
Speaker 2: but a big ast year. But now I'm happy for
Speaker 2: him and he hell of a player. He'd been nice
Speaker 2: as college. I think he got to New York and
Speaker 2: he had a chance to show it because because he
Speaker 2: was hurt in a couple of years and the team.
Speaker 1: Wasn't as good.
Speaker 2: But like, I'm all for uplifting the next generation. It
Speaker 2: don't matter how good sain Kwon Barkley do. I'm already made.
Speaker 2: You can't take away from me. So when people were like, yo,
Speaker 2: you ain't mad about breaking nah, like brot, I got
Speaker 2: some I got some good numbers. Yeah, So I wanted
Speaker 2: to do good because it's funny. You know, everything's in competition, right,
Speaker 2: But as players, you always that love to get people
Speaker 2: that love the game. You're always a fan of game.
Speaker 2: So before I knew him, he was a fan of me.
Speaker 2: He would tell me these things. He broke the record,
Speaker 2: he said, y'all, it's crazy to be when he first
Speaker 2: broke the record in the game, because I went to
Speaker 2: the game and out here was it the Rams game.
Speaker 1: I was with the owner, we was watching the game whatever.
Speaker 2: And on the mic, he said, yo, yo, that's yeah,
Speaker 2: we broke yeah, we broke Shady's record, right, And I
Speaker 2: took that at He's like, that's a try of respect
Speaker 2: because I actually know him, so I know he gotta
Speaker 2: respect me. But if I didn't know him and I
Speaker 2: heard that, you get what I'm saying, it mattered to him.
Speaker 2: And when we talked me, he's like, yo, bro, breaking
Speaker 2: it's big.
Speaker 1: That's why, like the shit going on with Eric Dickerson
Speaker 1: and all that, Like, yo, dog.
Speaker 2: You a ogi, you a legend on me. You had
Speaker 2: Jerry call he was scoring touchdown for the Rams, like
Speaker 2: that was big. Now you got a chance to pass
Speaker 2: your record down to Saquon this the same way O
Speaker 2: J passes to you. Because am I like right now,
Speaker 2: if you look, I'm probably with like six highest paid
Speaker 2: running back of all time football and not for years.
Speaker 1: Right. I never had a problem getting a contract. I
Speaker 1: do my thing, I get busy, pay me top of
Speaker 1: the market.
Speaker 2: So of the other dudes that did the same, not
Speaker 2: maybe as much as I did, but are doing really well,
Speaker 2: they're not having a chance to get them contracts. So
Speaker 2: we have a situation where a forty year old record
Speaker 2: can be broken for the next generation. Why won't you
Speaker 2: let this dude do it?
Speaker 1: And why you mad about it?
Speaker 2: Because Josh Jacobs running back for the Packers night he
Speaker 2: played for the Raiders they want to go. He still
Speaker 2: was busy. He led the league in Russian. I remember
Speaker 2: talking to him. He's saying that the Raiders don't even
Speaker 2: offer him a contract. I'm like, hohy not, it's like
Speaker 2: being a scoring chain and don't even.
Speaker 1: Know what we talking about. Saquon balls out. He is
Speaker 1: the New York Giants and you rather pay Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: The mark is messed up. But you can go.
Speaker 2: You can be Baker Mayfield get a second chance. Now
Speaker 2: they talking about seting Dog get a second chance.
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is god awful awful. He's the second highest
Speaker 1: or third highest paid quarterback in football.
Speaker 2: Jordan Love is good though, right, but you're gonna make
Speaker 2: him hight paid quarterback after one year because if that's
Speaker 2: the running back or wide receiver, you're not doing that.
Speaker 2: CD Lambs you covir Yeah, save wan ce Lamb.
Speaker 1: He balls though, he cold if he.
Speaker 2: If he's not better than Justin Jefferson, okay, whatever, But
Speaker 2: they closed up. So you're telling me in the open market, bro,
Speaker 2: and it's my time, may get a deal. I can't
Speaker 2: get jump over him contract wise, right, but you're gonna
Speaker 2: tell me that. Lamar Jackson Josh Allen, Patrick Holmes can
Speaker 2: get jumped over by Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, It's crazy. They got the
Speaker 1: game so messing with the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: So that's why I was mad with the Eric Dickerson
Speaker 2: because I'm like, yo, if he breaks his record now,
Speaker 2: dudes like their Henry that has nice hundred yards are
Speaker 2: still balling.
Speaker 1: Won't take a seven million dollar contract or something.
Speaker 2: He's like, amen dollars because they not respecting the running
Speaker 2: back position. This is a step us stone to do that.
Speaker 2: So not the next generation ten twenty years from now.
Speaker 2: They gotta respect it. So it's bigger than sa Quon
Speaker 2: and Eric Dickerson.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You're not sitting out the last game. You're gonna get
Speaker 2: that time. You know, it's funny all their homeboys on
Speaker 2: the chat. You know that played with the Eagles on
Speaker 2: that that's playing it now. I won't say the names,
Speaker 2: but they play with me and they playing it now,
Speaker 2: so you can imagine who that is. They like this
Speaker 2: is Shady was here. This year will not go down
Speaker 2: like this. It will be a whole conversation all week
Speaker 2: while we're not playing. Because I'm gonna get my record
Speaker 2: because when I'm when I'm fifty years old, I'm six years.
Speaker 1: Old, and I want my kids all that. When you
Speaker 1: were just one hundred yards away, bro, and.
Speaker 5: You average was sixty and you playing the Johnson the dudes.
Speaker 1: That got rid of me and a week, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta get that record on that man.
Speaker 5: It was set up for him to do it. God
Speaker 5: will make no mistakes.
Speaker 1: They playing like that.
Speaker 2: Oh soa we don't get rid of you, Okay, we
Speaker 2: we wanna set the rushing record and we're gonna play
Speaker 2: them again.
Speaker 1: God set that up. But I mean, I get it now.
Speaker 1: He is now.
Speaker 2: I will say one thing about say one that I
Speaker 2: am not like. He is a great teammate and he's
Speaker 2: his and he puts his teammates first. I did that,
Speaker 2: but they gotta be with contents. Everything deserves the nuance.
Speaker 2: I'm for the team. But hold up, man, brother, it's
Speaker 2: recommend for fifty years on when your ass is going,
Speaker 2: you're going, I'm going, it's still gonna be here. I
Speaker 2: can't go get a hundred yards because I gave you
Speaker 2: two thousand yards though winning and all that, right, so
Speaker 2: you know, but I get the message though, like they
Speaker 2: had their by.
Speaker 1: Week like week three, so he had a full season.
Speaker 1: Like so I understand, but let him go get that
Speaker 1: guy because that's the other thing that real quick.
Speaker 2: I watched his whole week or last week, dud.
Speaker 1: Incentives, Hey got him, all of them play with Mike
Speaker 1: Evans got it. He deserved it. Now, Mike, he a dog.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying when I was there with him, he
Speaker 2: had nine yards. I don't go for what we're doing.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get him in styles. Yeah, that's just signed
Speaker 2: of respect on Man and Brady. I think Brady played
Speaker 2: for him to get.
Speaker 1: To so absolutely.
Speaker 3: And then how Dallas didn't let old boy play the
Speaker 3: last game to get that certain rush five hundred game
Speaker 3: for real?
Speaker 2: Oh it was it was oh yeah yeah, Oh that's crazy, Trevor.
Speaker 1: They played the whole seasons. Yeah he did, but they
Speaker 1: try to use that like wrong God, yeah, instead of
Speaker 1: letting that boy get that extra three hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 1: But yeah, down win though you can't Yeah what do
Speaker 1: y'all do? Ye do that basketball? You can't do sentives? Championship,
Speaker 1: No senters like some guys do. Yeah, some guys do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, All Star Game, Uh, Championship you're win a ring
Speaker 4: like but if anything where like you gotta have some
Speaker 4: of the points aren't scored or you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's been something big players like you win
Speaker 4: the championship, like you got your contract. We win the championship,
Speaker 4: you get money.
Speaker 1: So y'all never had nothing like work. I need a
Speaker 1: certain amount of points this game because.
Speaker 3: We're gonna play with you so my boy can get
Speaker 3: his ship off. Yeah no, I mean bonuses happened. But
Speaker 3: like I think, our money is guaranteed, so no matter
Speaker 3: how good or bad we play, we can get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. As soon as you started your name baby, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so five getting the whole.
Speaker 3: Yeah getting ah wow, that's an opt out the last
Speaker 3: year and get a bigger deal.
Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah, blessing. I'm talking like other players what
Speaker 1: they did. Yeah, that's go ahead. Ken, Jalen Hursts won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I think so, I think so.
Speaker 2: I mean, like it's all what you want in a
Speaker 2: quarterback because obviously you will take the Josh Allen's first,
Speaker 2: or you'll take the Lamar, the Whay he plays a pack,
Speaker 2: even the Burrows. Well, one thing I give Jalen Hurst
Speaker 2: bro he find a way to win.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And this thing is like when you talk about.
Speaker 2: Other players, the first thing you're gonna talk about is
Speaker 2: what their attributes are.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 2: His arm is crazy, Yo, he's accurate. You can't even
Speaker 2: tackle a little more. Jamie's gonna say, Yo, he a
Speaker 2: winner the games. I see where he might play awful dog.
Speaker 1: But we need that last drive. Bro.
Speaker 2: He finds a way and I respect he be like
Speaker 2: this whole life under dog gotta win. He's been in
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, you know, and lost to you know, top
Speaker 2: three quarterback Paston Wones, Andy Reid. But I think he
Speaker 2: can win it all our team. I mean it's bigger
Speaker 2: than Jalen Hurts, like a J Brown, Davonte Smith, Oar receivers.
Speaker 2: You got Sakuon Barkley and running back, and he got
Speaker 2: the best office line of football.
Speaker 1: And you're tight end is decent and you got number
Speaker 1: on defensive football. It's set up.
Speaker 2: If we don't want it this year, maybe next ye
Speaker 2: because we are a little young. It might be because
Speaker 2: every team has that win. Like I look at the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Days, what he is but a kill us?
Speaker 2: Look at the Niners.
Speaker 1: What's number seven names on defense? Defensive end? He's not there?
Speaker 1: Now Jersey. He's from Jersey, from Philly and all that
Speaker 1: way and now Jets, Jets, and.
Speaker 2: Now he have a sack this year, just got fired
Speaker 2: from the Raiders. Wow, we was waiting to see how
Speaker 2: that was gonna work out.
Speaker 1: I mean they just doing You get him one year?
Speaker 1: For real? Did you fire the other coach Inland one year?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Who will win? Who went? Like that? See?
Speaker 2: It's funny because, like I feel like player coaches now
Speaker 2: they had because they gotta hire because it's a lot
Speaker 2: of noise. And then dudes are doing well too, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of younger guys getting the jobs, and
Speaker 2: they hired players back in the old heads were gonna
Speaker 2: hire they people, right, But my thing is hot good
Speaker 2: in the player do y'all for one year?
Speaker 1: Right? I like? I like Glen fin Get one of
Speaker 1: them jobs. He nice though, he finish, Get one of
Speaker 1: them jobs? He nice? Yeah, right off? And he's crazy
Speaker 1: to right him here. Don't get enough credit though, because
Speaker 1: that defense is all hurt, banged up. It's still balling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Glenn crazy, Glenn is nice. They got this team.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be probably biggest matchup Detroit.
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen against the Packers. We're gonna beat shot
Speaker 2: the Packers. They got nothing for quarterback hurt, they all
Speaker 2: banged up.
Speaker 1: They ain't bet nobody for the season. It's over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna beat on there. I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be Eagles in the uh dis champion game. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: can say that. You could say that. You say that Sam.
Speaker 1: Donald gotta show me still who Sam.
Speaker 2: I just gave this whole analogy the other day, Man,
Speaker 2: I say, yo, tell him how that sh would go on?
Speaker 1: Y'all sport.
Speaker 2: A really really good player that's been balling for some years, right,
Speaker 2: but this year he's in a slump and he's going
Speaker 2: on like.
Speaker 1: An eight six seven, eight game slump. Ain't playing well.
Speaker 2: Eventually, though, this real good player that's confident that he
Speaker 2: gonna bounce back. If you're a sorry player for like
Speaker 2: six some years, go to a new team though, right,
Speaker 2: a new beginning in your seventh year with a really
Speaker 2: good coach, and within like I don't know, eleven to
Speaker 2: twelve games you balling. But when that bad moment comes, eventually, though,
Speaker 2: that bad player gonna be the player he is. So
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, Yo, how y'all just forget how bad off.
Speaker 2: Somebody is having a good moment, but it's somebody that's nice.
Speaker 2: You don't forget his his weaknesses, or you don't forget
Speaker 2: when he did bad because I woul thinking like when
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. They love to bring up all his playoffs
Speaker 2: and all that shit. Oh he don't wear the playoffs
Speaker 2: right now, that's true to that. I think you got
Speaker 2: like two PLAYLF wins. But dude, like Sam Donald, it's
Speaker 2: like y'all all believing this. Dude, Yeah, twelve will get
Speaker 2: thirteen good games. Think you're talking about painting you see
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You're gonna pay this dude. He's been trans for years.
Speaker 1: But then a good ass running back or good ass
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you don't be paying him. That's why I
Speaker 1: hate with all like this. They play these games. Politics
Speaker 1: more players in there, it won't be going like that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, Sam, got to show me some Wait
Speaker 1: you you from you from uh Texas, Texas? So you're
Speaker 1: from Texas. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I thought you was from Atlanta at first. I've just
Speaker 4: lived been living there since two thousand and three. Yeah, man,
Speaker 4: and you're from you from my heart as well. North
Speaker 4: who's that I doing real estate?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: I mean, so I got got some big ship coming up,
Speaker 2: and so right now I'm helping players to go back
Speaker 2: home and develop in their hometown because no, I don't
Speaker 2: care who the person is. Nobody's gonna be a bigger
Speaker 2: star than their hometown. It's not supposed to be, right.
Speaker 2: So I'm teaming up with you know, NFL PA, you know,
Speaker 2: meeting with them and different investors. One of my best friends,
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, he got you know, two affordable projects, right,
Speaker 2: so a lot of things are affordable housing.
Speaker 1: I got like two or three right.
Speaker 2: Now going and I go to these news neighborhoods, right
Speaker 2: I won't even say the names yet, but a couple
Speaker 2: of players is really really good. Go to the city,
Speaker 2: I meet with them, meet with their mayors and all that,
Speaker 2: and we get you know, respectfully, we'll get a discounted
Speaker 2: price on lots because we're trying to develop them. You know,
Speaker 2: we got money, you know what resource, We're trying to
Speaker 2: develop these lots. So just the next you know, Matt
Speaker 2: Barnes and up up north, they might have a shot.
Speaker 2: Because his living situation is not the best. Now he
Speaker 2: comes to the projects where it's supposed to be like,
Speaker 2: oh we losing the projects to now Oh damn, don't
Speaker 2: get in the projects too. Oh yeah, because it's all news.
Speaker 2: Marble floor is all that, right, that's dope and some
Speaker 2: good money in it. So now you're going back home
Speaker 2: helping your community out and you're making money, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So now we slow this narrative of when X players.
Speaker 2: I don't know how basketball it is, but a lot
Speaker 2: of dudes they go they got no more money when
Speaker 2: they done. So now bro, you're making money and you
Speaker 2: giving back to your community, and the NFL could be a.
Speaker 1: Part of that. I define you about the NFL, and
Speaker 1: that's the hardest flaying capital. When you look like us,
Speaker 1: you always want to have to put your own money in.
Speaker 2: So I mean I'll do that too, though, Like right now,
Speaker 2: before I got like through funding, I was doing a
Speaker 2: lot of my own I got a good team behind
Speaker 2: me and all that. But I see I've seen them
Speaker 2: out of work, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Build your starting offense with NBA players just skilled players,
Speaker 4: just skill plus, So like, who would you have as
Speaker 4: your tight end?
Speaker 1: I did this with a Okay, okay, check it out.
Speaker 1: Check it out.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the position, you say the player, Okay,
Speaker 2: tight end, and he gotta be some from the NBA, NBA, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: tight in. I'm going with I need somebody like six
Speaker 2: eight small forward.
Speaker 1: I'm going with a hockey more from the Lakers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he got his body frame. You know what I mean? Alright,
Speaker 1: who're going with? Is your quarterback?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Quarterback? All right? I need somebody that can move around
Speaker 1: a little bit throw you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: going a man and man as your quarterback. Quarterback, let's
Speaker 1: get it. Do you know what I mean? Who's your
Speaker 1: running back?
Speaker 2: Oh? I need somebody that's tough, right, but I want
Speaker 2: to shift the running back right, little year old step
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But physical.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, I like brunching up. He I don't know
Speaker 2: how fast he is. He quick though, I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 1: Nah No, I don't know to take the hits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyry nice though that. I'm going Westbrook almost, that's good.
Speaker 2: And Peters that's a great pick. That's a great pick.
Speaker 2: Okay a p Okay, who's a p who's your receiving you?
Speaker 1: Man? You know who's your receive three receivers. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with a shah mm hmm. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he got that.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with him.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be in the slot though. Now I just
Speaker 2: want to outside. I need a bigger body, you.
Speaker 1: Know, go get her.
Speaker 2: Mmmm no, check that check that, check that check that
Speaker 2: he want I want to I'm going bron Okay, waiting,
Speaker 2: I'm going a slot, big body older. Now he ain't
Speaker 2: really now he kind of possessed and receiver breaking down. Okay,
Speaker 2: and then my fast ball. I need a fast ball.
Speaker 1: Oh what's dress boyfriend name? Because that he lets you know,
Speaker 1: Jayden jay Jayleen Green. You know what I know, nigga.
Speaker 1: I know he is young. I know he's nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's respect. I mean that if you if you
Speaker 2: go to, hey, what's the trade, young boyfriend? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Anyway, But Jayleen Ja Jayleen Green look athletic, crazy,
Speaker 2: athletic fast.
Speaker 1: He's fearless and he don't care what nobody think. He's
Speaker 1: gonna ball out.
Speaker 4: I like him, all right, since you since she did that,
Speaker 4: let's go to Billy up ultimate running back.
Speaker 1: Whose speed would he have? That's football. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: speed who speed with? Yeah, that's me running back. They
Speaker 1: gotta be either Jamier Gibbs because his current or Chris Johnson.
Speaker 1: Size size man, I'm going with. I'm going with be small.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay there. Henry, that's too big. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's only him a strength, Adrian Peters
Speaker 1: Peter strength. Yeah, yeah, vision, my vision.
Speaker 2: I was about to say that, I knew you, about
Speaker 2: to say that, take glass. You can see your vision
Speaker 2: on my eyes low, but he said, come on.
Speaker 1: Stack TV going wrong. So Shady's vision? Whose hands? Marshall? Easy,
Speaker 1: easy call, easy call all you can go to the Damiens.
Speaker 1: They both had hands not getting at the backfield the day.
Speaker 2: It was crazy, right, But I think Marshall's yeah, feet,
Speaker 2: wait before I moves in it. Yeah that's no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, yeah, moves her in feet? Oh damn so
Speaker 2: move so yeah, Barry saying yeah, easy and dog.
Speaker 1: I got to I got one main man, Frank Gore, Frank,
Speaker 1: I like you. I was gonna say, Walter Payton or
Speaker 1: what's a good one. I was gonna say bo Jackson
Speaker 1: dog no dog dogs, Walter Payton and uh nobody did
Speaker 1: Brian Yeah, through his chest, Mike Austin, Jim Brown, that's
Speaker 1: hell of running back. The second you said, Jim Brown,
Speaker 1: Jim Brown, Campbell? What Campbell? Jimmy Jimmy was He's just respected,
Speaker 1: But I know he was nice.
Speaker 2: He was as big as the lineman, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Earl Campbell, Alter Peyton, he put hen.
Speaker 1: Arl Campbell was dangerous. What do you think about the
Speaker 1: boy from Arizona State? He got dog? Yeah, he got dog.
Speaker 2: He showed me that because he was doing a lot
Speaker 2: of crying and wine and the ship the whole game
Speaker 2: or the first half and the second half.
Speaker 1: He just stopped crying and he started throwing passes. What's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: He was real, but he did turn on.
Speaker 1: He got a chance in the league. Who's scannable? Uh
Speaker 1: he uh that's a great question.
Speaker 3: I got the same question about gent Yes, just yes,
Speaker 3: I think you don't think he got a chance.
Speaker 2: But let me just say, hear me out because it's
Speaker 2: sometimes we're like, you don't think the dude can, and
Speaker 2: then he do it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: But I think he's a you ever see like a
Speaker 2: really good college play?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean? So he's
Speaker 1: like that because I don't even super quick.
Speaker 2: I was watching this game. He don't really read the
Speaker 2: holes well. And he's big in the league. They big
Speaker 2: too though, like all that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: you know, and if I was about explosion and you know,
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. He ain't showed me showman's
Speaker 2: really talented.
Speaker 1: For you want to see, yes, you want to see.
Speaker 1: Gonna be all right. He didn't show. He didn't show
Speaker 1: no talent. He just did everything out there on the
Speaker 1: field doing the game. What I'm saying, he did everything, bro.
Speaker 1: He liked t bow like t BO was good at that.
Speaker 1: I'm good at college. He did everything out there, receiving,
Speaker 1: throwing them off, running, and he did it all quick
Speaker 1: hitter his first thing to come to mind. Let us know.
Speaker 1: Top five running backs of all time?
Speaker 2: Get serious, Barss Sanders, Adrian Peterson, Marshall, fault La, Damian Thomason.
Speaker 1: I like and I love O J. I know because
Speaker 1: of the juice I used to drink or juice. My
Speaker 1: dad said, you're gonna drink oh J juice. You did
Speaker 1: one album you can listen to with no skips.
Speaker 2: Man, Okay, this is that's my Lane. So I grew
Speaker 2: up a fifty cent fan, so get rich of trying.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: Uh Biggie, I love Biggie. Uh hm nahs, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with what is that? It was red, it was written,
Speaker 1: it was Crazy Ji's album.
Speaker 2: Uh that ship first motivation. I still see that drink.
Speaker 2: I like these Coast Trapper do worry about this? I
Speaker 2: don't listen to West Coast. I know com dudes like
Speaker 2: Kendrick's nice.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I like music. Who's
Speaker 1: Who's your childhood crush? Oh? Check? Oh? I hit my
Speaker 1: childhood crush twice. I can't put it on. That sucked
Speaker 1: it up. But she was, she's to be bad as fuck.
Speaker 1: What did she do though? What did she do? It
Speaker 1: was an actress? Okay, she was bad as ship when
Speaker 1: I had her.
Speaker 2: Now she's oldest and she reached for everybody.
Speaker 1: That's w a your child question. Everybody can't say that
Speaker 1: what I mean she was? She can to. I da,
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm twenty one twenty. That's why. Because she
Speaker 1: was older, way older than me. Some dread ship.
Speaker 3: Five dinner against that are alive. You plus five at
Speaker 3: the dinner table, say five dinner guests. Oh, it could
Speaker 3: be like famous or anybody. Yeah, anybody want at your
Speaker 3: dinner table.
Speaker 1: Oh man uh mister Lorrie he was owner. Uh h uh,
Speaker 1: my parents okay, uh and then my kids. That's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we never nothing like that. That's fine. Family people you love.
Speaker 1: If you didn't play in the NFL, I want to answer, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. What would be your job? What would
Speaker 1: you do? Yeah, because we might be workers, like co workers, teammates,
Speaker 1: We might be teammates.
Speaker 5: Ye like yeah, I mean you might be yo, get
Speaker 5: back on defense.
Speaker 1: You might be doing that.
Speaker 6: Yeah crazy.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The person talking about now you know what for real?
Speaker 1: For real, Yo, I would be I would be bird
Speaker 1: Man that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be signing all the rappers in the city, city, state,
Speaker 2: the state. You know, I mean putting our young boys on.
Speaker 2: I'm a real leader. Yeah, how about I see.
Speaker 1: He was like, hey, man, I love the show. You
Speaker 1: got get a real nigga on there so much.
Speaker 5: So you don't bury it all smooth. I'm not yet
Speaker 5: who you got, mom?
Speaker 1: What you got? I'm like, yeah, real niggas on taught
Speaker 1: that football. I taught that sports ship. I'm like, niggas,
Speaker 1: you got a line for me. He's literally like like
Speaker 1: what me. You know what I'm saying. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get with you.
Speaker 2: Like the producers like sure want bird man this after
Speaker 2: he was getting all crazy, don't even want to.
Speaker 1: Show bird shout bird. That's that's the O. G Oh,
Speaker 1: that was some funny ship. He said that that seemed
Speaker 1: like a basketball game, saying that ship, what's your guilty pleasure?
Speaker 1: What you mean? Exactly what I asked. Somebody said yesterday
Speaker 1: said pussy, what's your guilty pleasure? That's crazy, man, my mom.
Speaker 2: Guilty? You know this is this is crazy. But like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say success, okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You be feeling like.
Speaker 2: You can't even really even like because I'm a natural
Speaker 2: talk I talked ship, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 2: sometimes people like this is he's so arrogant, but my
Speaker 2: ship really be like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like little celebrate cats.
Speaker 2: You know it's crazy every time I use you all
Speaker 2: these examples, you know, people that got chemistry is doing anything.
Speaker 2: But you know, but but yes, process because you felt bad,
Speaker 2: like damn dog, you know I made it and like
Speaker 2: my main man didn't and it's a good point.
Speaker 1: I'm buying what I want. He can't. It's like I
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: I did that one guess that you would like to
Speaker 4: see on All the Smoke, But I had a couple
Speaker 4: seen post. But you have to help us get your
Speaker 4: answer on the show. I don't even know that Zel,
Speaker 4: but somebody else promised was Will Smith wherever you at. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you promised to get this Zel on the show, Will Smith,
Speaker 4: and we haven't seen you heard from you? So brother brother,
Speaker 4: rather than rather that he was that babe. You know
Speaker 4: we'll be in the game now. He gonna be the
Speaker 4: ego game to get with him. You know, I want
Speaker 4: to see wom because I want to. I want to
Speaker 4: hear what they got to say. Is one of my
Speaker 4: good brothers, my Adrian Browner. Yeah, Abs got a real story.
Speaker 4: You do you get shut out? Different a great superstarter?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I need I need to
Speaker 1: get him on my boxing show for sure. That's my man.
Speaker 1: I'm a proash hit him up bout it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I hope you'll get him on that's my man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, bro, man, we appreciate you man, congratulations and
Speaker 3: all the success. Yeah, It's been fun man, watching your
Speaker 3: growth and working together. We're looking forward to hopefully doing
Speaker 3: some more stuff in twenty twenty five with you, bro.
Speaker 1: Got to continue success. The crush was crazy though. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I want that gumbo you talking. I'm gonna make it
Speaker 1: right now. I'm gonna make it right now. That's around Judy.
Speaker 5: Oh wait wait, hold, I got the book though, I
Speaker 5: got the book.
Speaker 1: I need another gift. Yeah, I got the book. A
Speaker 1: ready as some dripping. There's some dripping there. It's in
Speaker 1: my living room. Okay, Yeah, I appreciate you. We appreciate you.
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