WEBVTT - Draft Show: 2019 NFL Combine Preview 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:07.160 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys on 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:11.000 there war room for in center news and draft analysis 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.400 from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:19.880 Star in Frescool, Dallas Cowboys Select Late and now your 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:25.360 hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us Well, 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.680 it's a special day for the Draft Show. Instead of 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.800 our normal Thursday time slot, we bring this tea on 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.919 a Friday. We thank you guys for hanging out with 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:38.960 us and making the switch. Our department went out and 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.400 spent the owner's money a little bit the last three days. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.040 You have a way with words, do I. Yeah, it's true. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.040 You're right. We were. We were in Los Angeles having 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.400 a good time, and we want to thank the Jones 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.520 family for allot us. Thank you very much. Yes, thank 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.000 you very much for that. And uh yeah, so we 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.200 are we have the Draft Show again here on a Friday. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.680 We actually are leaving for the Combine on Tuesday, and 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.880 we will be at the Combine from Tuesday through Saturday. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:09.800 With all the actions. We're gonna have shows for you Wednesday, Thursday, 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.919 Friday and Saturday. So looking forward to that. As always, 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:17.319 we have I think outstanding combine coverage. You know, we 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.319 get to bump into people, talk to people, you know, 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.040 do a lot of different things to kind of find 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:26.880 out an ideas about what these but these scouts, general managers, 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.120 front office people all thinking about these players, coaches as well. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.200 So with all the void people, I mean, it's just yeah, 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.760 that's the beauty of the combines because it's probably you know, 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:42.840 fifteen hundred NFL people, you know, say fifty from each organization, 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.560 from coaches, the gems, the scouts, to all the personnel people, 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.680 and so you can't help it bump into people and 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.200 you know, learn more about these guys. I always learn 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.440 more at the combine than I do any other week 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.720 of the year about players, just things you didn't know 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.760 or you know, the testing times obviously, the medicals, the interviews. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.559 So big week coming up next week. That's the voice 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.960 of my scout, Dane Brugler joining us today as always. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.640 David Hellman across the table from us. He'll get involved 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.160 with this as we get going along. Kent Garrison, executive producing, 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.960 and you brought up there. He is the Garrison and 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:21.680 the Garrison, Dan, you brought up the combine and again 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.640 the first part of the segment I want to do 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:25.360 is I want to talk about the combine a little 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.800 bit and some things, you know, teams, guys, somebody's you know, 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.080 who needs a big week, who can't afford a bad week, 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.320 who needs to interview will I. I just want to 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.120 kind of get in some ideas about that with you 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:39.840 and with David and being there and also in the 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:41.720 second half of this show though we're gonna well, we 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.560 have Twitter on the twenty like we always do. Maybe 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:46.200 take a call or two at eight eight eight eight 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.280 five five two two nine seven, but also at the 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.280 end or towards the end, I want to do who'd Who'd? 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.400 Who would you fight for? It's my one of my ideas. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:00.440 I like to have an actually always trying to create contact. Yeah, Katie, 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.880 Kevin Turner, who will join us? And you know he'll 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.200 He'll hang out with us one of these Thursdays on 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.200 a draft show and then be a part of our 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.160 draft coverag John Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I one h 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.200 five three the fan Kevin Turner, great guy, really works 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.720 hard at this. But he and I were having an ID. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.079 I said, what would you like to hear? I'd like 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.399 to us hear a segment or two about who would 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.720 you fight for? So we're gonna go around the room 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.120 and fight for some guys and why we would fight 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.480 standing on the table, standing on the table, that's standing 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.000 on the table. That's what we're gonna do. So you know, 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:31.560 look forward to that here at the end of the 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.359 end of the broadcast as well. But I want to 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:39.280 get into this combine Dane and David yep and David, 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.000 I'm gonna let you start off with the cowboy angle 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.600 of it because I want to I want you to 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:50.480 talk to me about with what you see materializing with 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:55.360 free agency and then but free agency it actually happens 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.840 after the combine. So where where do you feel like again, 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.560 I want, I want the cowboy angle. Well, it's the Cowboys, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.880 but it's every team in the NFL. Is the combine 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.520 is sort of where you start to see the blueprint 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.600 for what these teams are going to do with their year, 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.440 um without fail. You know, we saw we saw the 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.960 Cowboys at the Senior Bowl and it was a week 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.239 or ten days after the season ended, and you know, well, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.279 we haven't we haven't had those meetings. I mean, Scott 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.000 Lenahan was still on the staff when the Senior Bowl, 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.560 so you know, they haven't really had a whole ton 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.760 of time to to get into it. But now that's 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.640 not the case. You've had your meetings, you've reviewed your season, 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.160 you've you know, for the most part, I don't think 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.200 it's official, but they've basically finalized their coaching staff at 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:42.480 this point. And this is fun because this is where 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.240 you start to hear the whispers about where they're going 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.240 to go or where they think they're gonna go. And 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.919 that's that's not just obviously the Combine is a draft 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.840 of him, but that's not just the draft. You know, 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.320 um I remember, I guess it was two years ago 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.280 at this point. The Combine was where we first started 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.520 to hear the whispers of well, you know what, we're 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.720 Jeff Heath played really well. We're gonna give him a 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.760 chance to start, Like we feel comfortable with that. Sure, 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.120 we're going to elevate, you know, we we're gonna roll 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.880 with that and see what we got orm Lyle Collins Like, well, 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.560 you know, maybe he is better suited to play tackle 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.240 and that's something that we're gonna, you know, explore as 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.680 the offseason program gets underway. So like I said, I mean, 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.360 you've had five weeks to kind of talk about what 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.479 you like and what you don't like about your team 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.880 and where you're gonna go. And this is really the 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.320 media's like you said, you can't avoid people in Indianapoli 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.440 is Yeah, this is really our first opportunity to talk 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:39.640 to the brain trust since they've had all of these conversations, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.599 and it just you know, there's not gonna be a 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.520 press release, but these details just kind of start to emerge, like, 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.280 all right, this is what they're thinking. Maybe you know, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.359 maybe they are going to go after so and so 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.560 in free agency. Maybe you know, maybe this position is 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:54.400 something we're not paying enough attention to. It Just it 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.080 starts here and that, like I said, that's for the Cowboys, 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:58.720 but it's for every team in the league exactly. And 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.520 the combine is where a lot of these negotiations start. 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.360 And it's funny talk as well, just you know, over 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.279 the years talking about agents or yeah exactly, agents or 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.719 people personnel, people with teams. A lot of times they 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.400 talk when just you know, how the process of signing 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.479 a player or decisions are made, a lot of times 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.320 it starts at the combine. That's when they started negotiating contracts. 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.640 That's when it started laying the groundwork for a trade. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.800 And so Combine is a big step in the process 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.440 of not only the draft, but the offseason. And that's 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.560 from a Cowboys perspective too. This again, you're not gonna 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.640 get these things on the record, but this is where 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.480 you start to hear like, well, of course we'd love 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.120 to have Cole Beasley back, but not at that price. Sure, 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.120 Or of course we're going to get an extension done 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.920 with DeMarcus Lawrence, but we're not close right now, you know, 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.320 and I'm making these up. You're too much into that. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.919 But these are the types of conversations that get had 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.680 when you're up there Dallas. Cowboys dot Com will like 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.200 it will be there all week. We will get Steven 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.600 Jones on Tuesday traditionally, Yeah, we generally get a Jason 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:10.760 Garrett press conference on a Wednesday, and then Jerry Jones 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.400 will wrap it all up on a Saturday. So, as 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.800 David said, we'll have all those parties involved. Again, We'll 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:20.320 be banging around the hallways too, talking to people that 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.640 we know from other teams, trying to get a little 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:27.360 bit insight. All right, Dane some guys that absolutely have 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.360 to knock this thing out of the park. For you. 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.320 You have some names and some guys. When we get 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.280 to start to watch this, it's like, okay, if this 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.840 guy is not as good and again, you know, these 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.320 players have an opportunity to have pro days after work, 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.760 so if things don't work out, well, but those guys 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:47.080 that generally can build some momentum going into the into 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.320 the workouts, the pro days, it comes from the combines. 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.000 So you've got to get some guys in mind you're 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.080 looking at in that direction. Well, and I've got a 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.360 more full preview coming out on Monday, so look out 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.520 for that. But to hit on some of the high notes, 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.520 and really, I mean we know this, we talked about 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.320 it before. The reason the combine was invented is the medicals, absolutely, 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.679 and the forty yard dash is what will you receive 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.120 the headlines the athletic testing, and we'll talk about that. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.560 It's important, absolutely, yeah, but the medicals is the most 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.920 important part of the process and probably the most important 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.680 medical evaluation would be Nick Bosa. Nick Bosa is the 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.680 favorite to be the top pick. I think he should 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.840 be the top pick, but he missed almost all of 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:31.400 his junior season with after having bilateral adominable surgery. So 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.559 what's going on with that injury. He's been healthy sense December, 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.360 he's been working out, he's expected to do a full 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.959 uh you know, all the drills. So but once doctors 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.960 go in, you know how thorough they are, do they 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.880 find anything that they're worried about? Anything long term? Anything 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.440 durability wise, if there's anything of a red flag, they're 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.160 gonna you know, bring that up, and that could change 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.000 things at the top of the draft. And that's that's 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.640 gonna have a ripple effect. Remember this last year with Hearst, 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.880 the defensive tacklestioned out about the Yeah, we were, we 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.240 were getting ready to start our day and next thing, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.079 you know, the whispers started happening while we're sitting there. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.520 Single year. Yeah, so yeah, we we don't know, you know, 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.800 is an end. These doctors they all look at these 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:16.360 players differently too. Some will say, oh, no, this injury 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.720 is fine, we can deal with it. Some will look 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.400 at it and say, no, no, we we absolutely you can't. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.120 And and that's how we kind of got a little 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.720 bit with with with Jalen Smith. Yeah, you know, I 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.360 mean there were there were doctors that were lining up saying, no, 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.840 I wouldn't touch the player. And but you had some 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.160 other teams and you know, doctor Cooper did the surgery 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.480 here for the Cowboys, and you know, and and that 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.480 worked out very very well for the Cowboys and it 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:42.520 worked out very well for Jalen Smith as well. Uh, okay, 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.640 we got the medicals interviews. Is there anybody interviewing wise 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.600 that you guys are thinking about that man, this guy's 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.920 got to this guy's got to tell his story, the 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.000 guy's got to kind of come clean this guy, you know, who? 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.600 Is there somebody that we're worried about that that you know, 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.600 maybe maybe the red flags? That's another thing you worry 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.480 about with these players. Is there a red flag or 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.160 two about some players that are going to get interview 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.600 that might pop up and like, whoa, that interview didn't 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.880 go very well? And we always hear that about the quarterbacks. Sure, 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.080 you know, well, and that's yeah, it's quarterbacks an intangible position, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.520 so you better nail the interview. And that's the interviews 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.520 really where like a guy like Daniel Jones has a 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.960 chance to duke right because you know, he his team's good, 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.800 not great, right, Senior Bowl is good, not great, right, 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.600 but the interviews is a chance where he can really 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.600 show off that cerebral mind that he has, you know, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.800 the ability to break down coverages and understand what's going on. Yeah, 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:36.640 as we look at them. Now, we got Dane's top 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.839 ten players by position. That's this quarterback list right there. 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.040 So that's how he's going with it. And right now combine, yeah, 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.480 pre combine and we'll see. All right, as we look 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.840 at that list, though, who are those guys who who 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.160 will interview the best out of that group right there? 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.160 I mean the workouts, who if you were a general 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.760 manager of a team, who would you want to sit 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.679 down and talk to off that list right there and 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.520 really hammer them on some questions. I mean, I feel 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.480 like we've beaten him into the ground, But it's got 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.599 to be Kyler Murray, right, absolutely, especially you know the 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.840 great debate about what sport he's supposed to play. I mean, 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.200 if I'm going to spend a high pick on that guy, 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.640 I want to feel pretty convinced that he's really dedicated 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.040 to football and he's not gonna bail to play center 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:21.800 field in two years. It's gonna be a big week 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.880 for Kyler, no question. M. First, the measurements, you know, 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.800 we'll see exactly how big he is. Uh, does he 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.400 get close to two hundred pounds over two hundred pounds? 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.640 You know, is he close to closer to one ninety? 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.240 And then M. Yeah, the interview process is going to 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:39.040 be paramount. M. Just they're gonna hit him on okay, 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.120 so you know, we know you love baseball more and 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.080 just you know, hit on that, hit on that, and 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.520 just see how he reacts and just make teams want 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.959 to be convinced. They want Kyler to convince them that 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.400 he is all in and you know, not going to 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.880 have to worry about anything long term about Okay, when 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.720 things are get a little tough in football, he's just gonna, 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.840 you know, go to baseball. But the other quarterback, Dwayne Haskins, 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.080 you know, because you look at that quarterback list and 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:09.360 it's the juniors that came out early, Stidham, Jones, the 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:14.200 Buffalo Kid, they all had Jackson, They were all the 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.520 Senior Bowl, so teams had a chance to talk with 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.520 them already. Dwayne Haskins and Kyler Murray the only junior 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:24.560 quarterbacks that they have not talked talked to yet. So Haskins, okay, 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:26.840 just trying to delve into his mind. Where is he 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.720 mentally in his development? Only fourteen career starts, one year starter, 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.920 you know, just what's going on with him in traditional play? 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.680 Very well? The one year starter. No, it's you know, 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.240 there's a reason you want. I mean, there's no substitute 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.800 for experience. Over the last since nineteen seventy three, there 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.760 have been a one hundred quarterbacks drafted. Three out of 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.640 the hundred had fifteen starts or fewer at the college level, 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.679 Cam Newton, Mark Sanchez, Mitchell Trubisky. So you know, Dwayne 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.840 Haskins will be the fourth and you know, we'll see 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.520 how it plays out for him. But there's a lot 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.760 to like about him. I'm a big fan of Dwayne Haskins, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.240 but at the same time, there's still some questions I 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.080 have with him. Some of the guys that the interviews 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.560 will be pretty important for Jeti Polite from Florida. Yeah, 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.800 is a player who hasn't been arrested. He you know, 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.359 his teammates say positive things about him. I've heard scouts 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.800 and other people around the league say some negative stuff 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.199 about just his maturity, how he carries himself, interviews will 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:22.800 be really important for him because I think he's a 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:26.040 potential top ten, top twelve pick as long as everything 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.560 checks out with him. Some of the other guys that 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.079 have been in trouble in the past, like H. L. J. 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.680 Collier from TCU, some maturity issues there. Yeah, yeah, I 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.800 think he's a potential second rounder. So just maturity issues there. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.320 Jerry Tillery from Notre Dame. It's another name that you guys, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.760 I'm liking all these guys you're naming him like, Jerry 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.320 Tillery is a first round talent. Yeah, there will. He 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.440 will be off some boards because teams don't trust him, 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.600 and it's just you know, Kenny convinced a team that 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.160 he's all in on football, he can trust him, and 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.360 the combined interviews will be a big part of that. So, 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.960 I mean, there's plenty of names to go over here, 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:07.079 but the interview is definitely a big So some background. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:11.319 There's formal interviews, an informal interviews, right, every team gets 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.319 sixty formal interviews. Those are about fifteen minutes each, right. 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.720 Then the informal interviews. That's kind of the train station, 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.880 you know where you get coaches. Yeah, right, So it 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:22.880 used to be chaos back in the day. Yeah, and 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.360 it still is. I'm surprised they haven't streamlined it more. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.520 But yeah, the informal or the formal is you get 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.800 sixty fifteen minute interviews and that's where you know, fifteen 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.000 minutes you have to get a lot across to try 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.080 time exactly, so there's no hey, how you're doing. You know, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.440 what's up? Sit down, let's get started on this. So 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.520 you know you got busted for pop huh? Yeah, I 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.560 mean like that's yeah exactly, and you know there's gonna 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.960 be GMS head coaches in the room, psychologists in the room. 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.520 So it's an intimidating environment for these kids. Um, it's 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.560 gonna be a busy week, and so the interviews definitely 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.840 a time where some of these players could make or 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:02.480 lose some money, which going back to Combine week. Also, 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.480 you know, I think we talked about this in mobile 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.960 is like I really don't care who the Cowboys met 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.880 with in Mobile, right, I couldn't care less because they're 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.600 just that's part of it, yeah, or the process. But 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.120 we will start to hear about some guys getting formal 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.880 interviews with the Cowboys. That is important. That is important 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.440 if you. You know again, it's fine, like you remember 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.720 these things in years, Like I don't remember specific details 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.880 of any one combine, but I just remember like, oh yeah, 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.800 Like in twenty sixteen, that's when we realize that the 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.720 Cowboys had a formal interview with every quarterback that was there, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.560 including Dak Prescott. That was the first time Dak ever 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.600 talked about the Cowboys things like that, And so that 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.120 is important because you can kind of start to narrow 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.320 a list of you know, like, oh my god, the Cowboys. 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.080 Maybe figure out that thirtys the Cowboys have a formal 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.600 with every tight end that this thing, or the Cowboys 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.320 have a formal with like nine D tackles, like those 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.120 things start to come out, and those are very helpful. Yeah, 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.640 that is We're going to see most teams load up 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.960 one underclassmen because you know, they've done a lot of 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.200 the work on the seniors, but it's the underclassman, especially 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.480 on your classman you didn't expect to come out. So 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.760 I think we'll see a lot of heavy underclassmen with 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:14.160 those lists. Um, but yeah, it is definitely important to 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.240 kind of get an idea of just not only the players, 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.160 but the positions are looking at who you who are 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.120 you most excited about seeing? It's and that's kind of 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.880 a broad question, and I hate it because it's but 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.000 is there one or two players that you're just really 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.360 looking forward to to our workout too? Like, yeah, you know, 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.680 I mean maybe maybe kids from you know, maybe a 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.240 kids from a small school or something like that. You 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:37.560 don't know a lot about him and you want to 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.880 see how he competes with somebody else. Well, I mean, 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.560 he's not from a small school. But Rashawn and Gary, Okay, 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.640 you know this is a tackle in I've heard of 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.640 that place. Yea. So this is a player that obviously 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.160 is supremely talented, no question about it. Yeah, but no 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:56.440 question about that. The production wasn't there, The consistency wasn't there, 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:00.320 and all along when you talk about Rashaun Gary and 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.240 his draft grade, it's centered around traits, not production and 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.560 so and that's what NFL, that's what they draft. They 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.600 draft traits, they don't draft production. So, but he has 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.840 to nail it during the combine to show that he 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.800 does have the traits. And so I think he's capable 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.399 at two hundred and eighty pounds, I think he can 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.360 run in the four sixes. I think he can get 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.760 under six nine in the three cone drill. Those would 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.400 be elite numbers absolutely a player that size. Yeah. So 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.720 Rashaan Gary, I'm looking for him to absolutely knock it 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.400 out of the park. And if he does, then he, 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.320 you know, cements himself as a potential top ten guy. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.159 Similar line of thought, I'm interested to see how ed 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:38.920 Oliver does it this thing. I was kind of thinking 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.080 ed Oliver too, He's gonna blow it away to both 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.560 of these guys are gonna be ridiculous. So it's the 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.879 defensive lineman going to be the one group when we 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.600 walk away from this more my gosh, you know, is 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.840 that the one that's going to be the most impressive 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.640 of the groups when we watch the workout? I mean yeah, 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.800 I think they're each position will have their freaks, you know. 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.960 I think Rashan Gary, ed Oliver or two of the freaks. Yeah, 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.280 here's a danes one skin. If you're falling along with 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.800 us watching Kent. Garrison's in a nice job of getting 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.240 Dan's top ten players by possess. That's his defensive line 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.639 right there, right anybody want to talk about right there? 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.920 You talked about Tiller, how about Dexter Lawrence though, that's 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.159 kind of that He's gonna test off the charts as well. Yeah, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.720 he's He's for a guy that's probably three hundred and 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.119 forty five pounds. Uh, he's gonna run around five seconds 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.320 flat in the forty and the bench press, he'll probably 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.919 you know, push for close to forty reps um. I 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.080 think him and maybe a guy like Dalon Mack will 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:35.000 be pushing for the highest reps on the bench press 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.560 this year. So, you know, I think the defensive tackle 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.399 class is definitely going to be a deep group at 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.240 the combine. You know, guys that we're talking about a 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.240 lot because they're so physically gifted. U and Ed Oliver. 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.040 When Ed Oliver's done with his workout, we're gonna talk 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.840 about moving him to strong safety, yeah, because yeah, he 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:52.840 can move that way. Yeah, So you know, why the 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:54.679 heck not? Because he's just he's a he's a freak, 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.280 and um, you know it's he's definitely gonna have some 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.560 buzz as we leave Indie. You know, our buddy Daniel 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:05.080 Jeremiah who's on the NFL Network, former NFL scout, he's 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.240 found out the same thing you said last week. The 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:11.200 position that that doesn't have the great stretch or depth 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.159 to it is linebacker. Yeah, and he was struggling with 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.680 that the other day. You could tell he likes the 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:20.639 kid from from West Virginia. Uh, he kind of Yeah, 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.880 you and I weren't as high on him. Yeah, but 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.879 you know, we understand why you like him, because David 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:30.439 Long is. Yeah, he's undersized, but he's athletic, he can move, 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.080 you know, he's got aggressive hunting mentality. I was as 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.760 surprised at the mistackles. Um I was too. I thought 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:39.280 he looked better at I thought he looked better at 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.560 the Senior Bowl than he did on tape. I agree, 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.760 you know, And again Dane's talking about a guy. It's 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.600 five eleven, two hundred and twenty four pounds right now. Again, 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.720 all this will be official official, but he was a 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.680 Senior Bowl guy, So we'll have the really with the 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:53.800