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Speaker 1: Star in Frescool, Dallas Cowboys Select Late and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a special day for the Draft Show. Instead of

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Speaker 1: our normal Thursday time slot, we bring this tea on

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Speaker 1: a Friday. We thank you guys for hanging out with

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Speaker 1: us and making the switch. Our department went out and

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Speaker 1: spent the owner's money a little bit the last three days.

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Speaker 1: You have a way with words, do I. Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 1: You're right. We were. We were in Los Angeles having

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Speaker 1: you very much for that. And uh yeah, so we

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Speaker 1: are we have the Draft Show again here on a Friday.

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Speaker 1: We actually are leaving for the Combine on Tuesday, and

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Speaker 1: we will be at the Combine from Tuesday through Saturday.

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Speaker 1: With all the actions. We're gonna have shows for you Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: we have I think outstanding combine coverage. You know, we

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Speaker 1: out an ideas about what these but these scouts, general managers,

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Speaker 1: So with all the void people, I mean, it's just yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the beauty of the combines because it's probably you know,

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Speaker 1: or you know, the testing times obviously, the medicals, the interviews.

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Speaker 1: So big week coming up next week. That's the voice

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Speaker 1: of my scout, Dane Brugler joining us today as always.

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Speaker 1: David Hellman across the table from us. He'll get involved

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Speaker 1: and you brought up there. He is the Garrison and

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Speaker 1: the Garrison, Dan, you brought up the combine and again

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Speaker 1: from our friend Kevin Turner. He was imploring Florida's Chauncey

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Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson to fall to fifty eight where he can

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Speaker 1: be the Cowboys future safety. Gotcha. I watched Chauncey. I

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Speaker 1: liked him a lot, but I didn't see him play

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Speaker 1: I didn't see whatever Kevin saw that made me just

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Speaker 1: over the summer, um, I wasn't too because he was

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Speaker 1: was okay at safety. Then this year, under Todd Grantham's defense,

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Speaker 1: they moved into star, which is they run a five dB. Look. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he plays basically a nickel position. They you know, two linebackers.

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Speaker 1: He plays a star and I think he is the

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Speaker 1: ideal modern day nickel defender in the NFL. That's what

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Speaker 1: he did a Florida. I think that's what he did best,

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Speaker 1: better than what he did at safety. UM, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's exactly what he is. I mean, he's aggressive,

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Speaker 1: he plays fast, and he trust what he sees. He

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Speaker 1: can blitz. He can at the edge for a guy

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Speaker 1: that's not that big. So I think that there's a

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Speaker 1: lot to like with Gardner Johnson. The aggressive nature sometimes

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Speaker 1: gets the best of him. Needs to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit better finisher at time, But I see a guy

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Speaker 1: that you can keep on the field all three downs,

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Speaker 1: a guy that you know is your ideal nickel defender,

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Speaker 1: which in a course today's NFL as a starter. This

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Speaker 1: guy is plays all over the field, dance right at

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Speaker 1: the star position. It's like he plays like a rover

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Speaker 1: almost any any floats. So you'll see him line up

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Speaker 1: in the slot and then you'll see him line up

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Speaker 1: over kind of as a safety. But if you want

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Speaker 1: to evaluate him as a safety, you got to go

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Speaker 1: back and watch twenty seventeen tape. I think that's where

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Speaker 1: Kat was basing a lot of his a lot of

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Speaker 1: this stew But the thing that kind of bothered me

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Speaker 1: Yeah you brought that up. Yeah, and that and that,

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Speaker 1: you know, And so I'm thinking about a guy that

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Speaker 1: does a great job playing the slot covering. But again,

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Speaker 1: are you gonna be if you're gonna be on the

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Speaker 1: field a lot and you're in the secondary and need

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Speaker 1: you to tackle a little bit better than I need

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Speaker 1: you to be a little more consistent with that, I

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Speaker 1: hear you, But I like I liked his willingness to

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Speaker 1: do those things. No question about that RESSI and physically no,

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Speaker 1: and then and like Dane said, that gets him in

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Speaker 1: a little bit of trouble there. So but I tell you,

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Speaker 1: the guy plays with some great range. He really really does.

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Speaker 1: I would be very happy to have him on my team.

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Speaker 1: But I just you wouldn't like him at fifty eight.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think i'd like him at

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Speaker 1: fifty eight to play safety like I that's maybe you

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Speaker 1: see that seventeen tape maybe sit down and watch that.

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Speaker 1: Well that's because yeah, I think he's I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's a safety. I think he's a nickel, yeah, which

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Speaker 1: you know, is he technically a corner, then maybe you

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Speaker 1: could say that. But is there a player like him

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Speaker 1: in this league? I hate to just throw that out there,

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Speaker 1: and here, I'm I'm supposed to know this league. You did, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you did. I just sit through it out there.

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Speaker 1: But but but he me, you know, there's a little

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Speaker 1: time he honey Badgers a little bit. I mean not

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Speaker 1: Honey Badger is more of a playmaker. And say, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to compare anybody to a guy that gets, but

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Speaker 1: he's kind of a fifty fifty tackler too. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the thing is you don't he trust him at free safety? Okay,

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Speaker 1: he could blitch. I don't want to compare him to

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Speaker 1: his college tape. But what about what Buddha Baker's been

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Speaker 1: doing for Arizona? Right, which is part of why the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals were comfortable letting Tyron Matthew go in the first place. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, basically, bottom line with a guy like

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Speaker 1: this is you have to have a plan for him, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, just understand his strengths and you know, just

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Speaker 1: the difference in tape between last year and this year,

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Speaker 1: how much better he was this year in this new role.

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Speaker 1: Put it this way, he was too good of a player.

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Speaker 1: They created a spot for him to play, if you

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Speaker 1: think about it. Basically, yeah, because you know they're saying, listen,

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Speaker 1: we've got too we feel like I got too good safeties.

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Speaker 1: Just smart coordinators do Yeah. They They're like, let's get

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Speaker 1: this guy on the field if he could cover and

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Speaker 1: is aggressive and you know, tackles well enough. I like

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Speaker 1: I like the player, Brian, Do you like the player?

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Speaker 1: I like the player well. And he's a guy that

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Speaker 1: he started a free safety as a freshman, Yeah, strong

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Speaker 1: safety as a sophomore and then the star position. So

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Speaker 1: he's played all over and I thought early his best

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Speaker 1: work was this past year at the Stars. His time

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Speaker 1: is a four or five four coming into this thing.

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Speaker 1: He plays a hell of a lot faster. He'll run faster. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he'll run much faster than that. Yeah. We pride ourselves

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Speaker 1: on not just talking about the Cowboys. We won't. So

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Speaker 1: I've got I've got one from Daniel who says, who

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Speaker 1: else would the Jets look at at number three if

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Nick Bosa are gone? Is there a

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Speaker 1: way to get a pass rusher at three? Or would

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Speaker 1: they trade back or or what else would they draft

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Speaker 1: if those two aren't there? See Mike mcagnan, my buddy

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Speaker 1: going for he's like a big school guy right kind

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Speaker 1: the Charlie Castroley program of well this, I mean he

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Speaker 1: did draft our Shepherd kid last year, a defensive tackle, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but not not not a overall though. If Allen and

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Speaker 1: Bosa are both gone, just make it easy on yourself

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Speaker 1: and draft Quinnin Williams. That's all. They might not fit

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Speaker 1: their schemes. One thing I do want to mention before

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Speaker 1: we dive too much into the Jets and what they

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Speaker 1: would do is I don't think Josh Allen is this

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Speaker 1: law top two, top three pick that everyone wants to

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Speaker 1: make him. This is yeah, like go into like tell

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Speaker 1: me why not? Well, I mean Nick Bosa, there's a

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Speaker 1: Nick Bosa then a Josh Allen. There's a big gap

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Speaker 1: between these two as pass rushers. Yeah, and there's And

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00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: I like Josh Allen. I just think he's being pushed

635
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: up just because this draft doesn't have ten true top

636
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: ten picks, and most drafts don't, but you know, we

637
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: have to feel someone has to go three, four or

638
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: five six R and Josh Allen's just one of the

639
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: few players that understandably is getting pushed up in that mix. So,

640
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: and he plays a premium position obviously at pass rushers.

641
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: So as much as I like Josh Allen, I just

642
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: it would scare the heck out of me taking him

643
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: at two and just feeling great about it. I don't know.

644
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a lock to go that high,

645
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: but you know, we'll see. I think he'll test well.

646
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: He had great production. Not to like about him, still, um,

647
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, watch the Georgia tape. You know, watch there's

648
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: different times during this year where it kind of made

649
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: you worry about his next level transition. But with that said,

650
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: I think if if don't say that for you know,

651
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: those two guys are off the board, Bosa and Allan,

652
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: and you're the Jets, you got to look hard at

653
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: for Shan Gary at that point, who is again all

654
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: the traits are there. I know he didn't match the hype.

655
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: He was the top player come out of high school. Okay,

656
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: fere years ago, Okay, Dane once again, kids got Dane's

657
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: top ten defensive ends up on the board, round ones

658
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: up there in terms of they look at that, look

659
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: at all the ones goes all the way down to

660
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: sweat and I'll tell you what, I'll fight you on

661
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: polite and burns there. But I mean that's fine, that's okay.

662
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: I know you you're up for a fight. You never

663
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: nothing bother you at all. But yeah, so there's there's,

664
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: like I say, the Allen stuff, I would me personally,

665
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: I've got it Allen and Gary. But I mean, I man,

666
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: I really do. I think Gary could play a couple

667
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: different spots. I think he could play end. I think

668
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: you can reduce him down and play inside. Let him

669
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: play some defensive tackle too, if you had to. Y'all

670
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: thought about that a couple weeks ago, Yeah, we sure did.

671
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: We sure did. Yeah, on passing downs, let him play inside.

672
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he is an edge rusher, a

673
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: guy that with the power, the quickness, his length. I mean,

674
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: you see it on film. It's just it's not as

675
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: consistent as you'd like. And so I'm really eager to

676
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: see where Shan gary next week because I think he'll

677
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a heck of a week.

678
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, a guy that definitely has some buzz.

679
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: So you know, I think another position that the Jets

680
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: would be looking at. You know, they drafted their quarterback

681
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: last year, Yeah, how about protecting them? I was I

682
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: was just looking at their depth chart. Here. They've got

683
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: some free agents up on their up on their offensive lines,

684
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: and then they weren't very good to begin with. So

685
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean they exactly they need some upgrades on the

686
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: offensive line. And I mean, if you're going to draft

687
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: a guy like say Jonah Williams, who maybe is he

688
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: worth a third overall pick? It's debatable, but if he's

689
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: the best, is it the best safe pick for Mike mbe. Yeah,

690
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: if he's gonna stabilize your offensive line, give your quarterback

691
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: an extra half second to throw the ball. Absolutely absolutely

692
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: worth it. And so I don't care if you know, oh,

693
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: they should have traded back to eight and got Jonah Wilton.

694
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: If you don't have, if you have a chance to

695
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: get who you think is the best offensive lineman in

696
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: the draft, and you know another position like over Shaan

697
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: Garry or whoever else doesn't blow you away, then you'd

698
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: take the offensive lineman you feel good about making your

699
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: team better, especially your quarterback. That is one of my

700
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: favorite arguments at draft time is like, of course I'll

701
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: take Joe and Williams at six, but not at three.

702
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: Con But no, if it's the wind, if it's the

703
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: wind pick, it's like, it's just like the Colts taken

704
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: like Nelson. Yeah, I mean, it's just doesn't it shouldn't

705
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: bother You go take the best players, you know, I mean,

706
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: but the position I mean. And by the way, it's similar.

707
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: It's similar to Greg Williams new defensive line, a new

708
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator with the Jets. Yeah, they've got some just

709
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 1: again looking at it, they've got some serious questions about

710
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: their defensive front. Yeah, it's Flint and Williams. Yeah, they

711
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: could use Quinn and Williams right there. I mean, because

712
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: you know you play a three to four front. Steve

713
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: McClendon's up. You know Mary Anderson, who they got a

714
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: trade of the Colts, He's up. They're probably running around

715
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: a four three under Williams. Yeah, well they got it

716
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, well these are three eight William's fourth

717
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: three guy. Yeah. How much longer is Sheldon Williams under contract?

718
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: Leonard william Leonard? Yeah thinking Sean Richard. Yeah, I got

719
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: from Richards Lineman confused, he's I think he's okay, he's

720
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: not like he was just what two thousand and two fifteen. Yeah, yeah,

721
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: he's saved as Byron Jones. Yeah, there's probably another contract. Yeah,

722
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: he's probably that he's in that fifth year kind of

723
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: a thing. But yeah, there's a lot of there's a

724
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: lot of places that they can go when they're picking

725
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: in the top five there. Yeah, let me ask you this,

726
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,479
Speaker 1: do you think they take a corner? I'm not taking

727
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: a corner in this draft that earlier. I don't think

728
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: a corner is worth that high. But we'll see what

729
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: Mike does. I mean, would you draft a corner that early? No? Okay,

730
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: no not not not in this draft. That would And

731
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Well, all right, option number one from

732
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: Mike is and I love I love I love the

733
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: kid from Washington Murphy. Yeah, yeah, I love him. Not

734
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: at three, but not at three. There there's your Yeah. Well,

735
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: talk about talk about a guy that's big for the combine? Yeah?

736
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: Is he five ten? Is he gonna run four or five?

737
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: Like he's love the tape, but he's not going to

738
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: have a lot of the size and speed measurements that

739
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: teams look for, especially when we talk about a top

740
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen guy. Yeah, kick Garrison, show you some

741
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: highlights of Byron Murphy making some plays against Auburn. He's

742
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: a baller, He's a baller. He's awesome. He's one of

743
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: my favorite guys. All Right, I love Would you fight

744
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: for him? Would I fight for him? Save it? Save

745
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: it for the next segment, you know, fighting for guy.

746
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: I love this, Like you know, fans, fans know what

747
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: their teams need, and so like during the Philadelphia they

748
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: they know we need players, they know we need players.

749
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: You just but I love you know, fans go from

750
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: guy to guy, you know, and so the news this.

751
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, so real quick, real quick.

752
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: Are you finding on Twitter that fans are asking you

753
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: about positions or players? Because for the Cowboys, people are

754
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: asking me more about positions. See that player. My argument,

755
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: my counter to that would be fans know the positions

756
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: of need and then they start asking you about players

757
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: of those positions. In my experience, I think I get

758
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: more player questions. I think there's a lot of smart

759
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: fans you know who the players are, and are intrigued

760
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: by some of these guys and h or they noticed him,

761
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, watching college football and they want to know

762
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: how they project and that kind of thing. So um, yeah,

763
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: you get both. But to the to the point, Andy

764
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: Isabella was definitely the slot receiver of January. The slot

765
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: receiver of February is a guy by the name of

766
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: Greg Dortch. And we watched him together, and Sam wants

767
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: to know, all right, get a lot of pub on

768
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: the street among Cowboys fans. Absolutely, somebody's talking about him

769
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: all the time in our in our our Cowboys circles.

770
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Wake Forest Wide receiver, let me ask you, absolutely, go

771
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: for it. David hellman, you saw the young man play. Uh,

772
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: let me pull up, Brian brought us. Look, I got

773
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: my notes right here. Yeah, you can always pull your

774
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: notes up. I was not wowed by like anything he

775
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: did physically. He's he's five eight one seventy four. It's true.

776
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: He's Cole Beasley four four five four black, not white,

777
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: but he's Cole Beasley in my opinion. Um uh he

778
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, he's he doesn't have this like a jaw

779
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: dropping quickness or speed, but like he's just one of

780
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: those guys who finds a way to be open a lot.

781
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: And we talked about when we watched him, like he

782
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: presents himself as a target very well, Like I don't

783
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: know how to articulate it, but like he's always got

784
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: his numbers back towards the quarterback. He always has like

785
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: he's always presenting himself as an easy target for the

786
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: quarterback to throw too. That's it's because he runs five

787
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: yard rounds. I'm well, that's true. Although he was he

788
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: went downfield more often than I thought that he would,

789
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: just being five eight one seventy four. Not that he's

790
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: this take the top off the defense right well, because

791
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: he's not. And I was disappointed that he didn't have

792
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: more big plays. He had eighty nine catches this year,

793
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: only one went for forty yards or more. Yeah, I

794
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: was surprised he was. Not that he's a vertical or

795
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: you know, and over the top ten but just make

796
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: a miss and to this a lot of underneath stuff

797
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: with him, well and well across the field stuff. Think

798
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: about it, doesn't that explain why Cowboys fans are asking

799
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: them about exactly what the guy who might leave does. Like,

800
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: that's that's what that's his that's what he does. He

801
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: runs those types of routes. I thought he was very

802
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: willing to go over the middle. He got open down

803
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: the seam a lot. His quarterback a little bit freaking

804
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: sucked and can get out the ball a lot. But yeah,

805
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: that was a problem for sure. Um and he's got

806
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: nice hands. I enjoyed watching him. I didn't. I didn't

807
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: think you're right, like this good scout report. I didn't

808
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: think he's like this game changing receiver. It's best routes

809
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: are those pivot routes right, the in and out pivot

810
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: routes and stuff like that. That's again, that's where Cowboy

811
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: fans are looking. They see Cole Beasley running the pivot

812
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: routes and stuff like that. Yeah, so I absolutely think

813
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: he could fit in this offense and do a lot

814
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: of the stuff that Cole Beasley does. Okay him or

815
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: penny Hart penny Hart easy? Easy, not even close for me?

816
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: Which I think I think I said I would draft

817
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: I would draft this guy Dorch like in the fifth round. Yeah,

818
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: that's that, that's where he is. Yeah, you're not wrong

819
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: about that, penny Hart. You take him in a third.

820
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: The Cowboys like they're like a third. Yeah, I'd take

821
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: him on a third. They're gonna track they would, Dray

822
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: you think they would draft a slot receiver in the

823
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: third round? Maybe they have to sit at the end

824
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: of the end of every round it as would say,

825
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: yeah that, I mean you have to figure the third

826
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: round pick is what like ninety yeah around there, So

827
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: ninety one or something I think is what I think

828
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: it's out the other day? Do it? Slot receivers basically

829
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: a starter, not basically not basically like I mean, yeah,

830
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: in terms of percentage of snaps played, Yeah, yeah, he's

831
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: gonna impact your team. So who is your best slot

832
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: receiver in the draft? I the way penny Hart played

833
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: in the senior bow. He really sold me. So your best,

834
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: your best slot player would be in the third round. Yeah,

835
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean I think everybody's backing off Dandy Isabella. Now Isabella,

836
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: I have a third round grud and Isabella, Okay, always did.

837
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: I just thought if the Cowboys wanted is A Bello,

838
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: I thought they probably had to take him the late second. Sure,

839
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna get him. Ask this, Did you

840
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: get Heart in the third round? Maybe not? I mean

841
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: that's what I'm I have a third round graide on

842
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: Heart too, So I mean that's why you draft Deebo

843
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: Samuel in the second and just forget this whole debate. Possibly, yeah,

844
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean he's This is a pretty good wide receiver

845
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: group if you need, if you need second or third

846
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: round wide receiver, exactly right, exactly if you're looking for

847
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: one of those first round receivers, maybe not so much. No,

848
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: one more question there, David Hillman. One more question, all right,

849
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: A fun hypothetical from Austin. Since we're talking about receivers.

850
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: If you could pick any offensive player in this class

851
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: and put them on the Cowboys, who would you choose

852
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: and why? Like a good hypothetical. T j Hawkinson. Yeah,

853
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: that's the obvious one. Yeah, all right, I mean I

854
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: like fant though too, he's good. Gimme Hawkinson. I like Steel.

855
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: So you know, I saw a mock draft with Hawkinson

856
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: going to Dallas, alright, going to the Raiders at twenty seven.

857
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: Didn't Dane say three weeks ago that he'd be the

858
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: first skill player rafted or could be don't want to

859
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: put work very easily be the first. I mean, I

860
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: have a hard time imagining he's gonna fall to twenty

861
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: seven if he's that good. Anybody you interested in Jacobs

862
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: from Alabama? Oh? Yeah? Or I meant just so much

863
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: singletary just I mean, I'm just talking about maybe that's

864
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: that backup running back. I'm not like, if if under

865
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: the exercise given to us of pick one guy to

866
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: put on this office, I'm not going with a backup

867
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: running back. How about rap the safety office? I'm sorry? Yeah, Oh,

868
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: if it's anybody, I'll take Bosa, right, Okay, Yeah, then

869
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: you wouldn't probably resign that. What about a boring pick

870
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: and say, uh, say Jonah Williams. I was gonna like,

871
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: if it's not a tight end, then I think your

872
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: next best option as an offensive tackle. Yeah, get whichever

873
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: the best one is? Sure? How about Quinn and Williams?

874
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: We didn't even mention him, he's an defensive player. You're

875
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: not listening. No, I just oh, how about overall? Overall? Overall?

876
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, overall, give me Bosa? Yeah, Bosa? Yeah,

877
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: why the hell? Not player in the draft? And no,

878
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: and you see a better player yet, I'll draft Bosa

879
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: and resigned to Marcus Lawrence and I'll have Gregory Lawrence

880
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: and Bosa and no quarterback fire. Have you seen a

881
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: better player yet in Bosa? No? I haven't. Are you

882
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: over commensating for your nope? Hate for us? Boss? He

883
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: was in the top ten on my board. He was

884
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: in the top ten. I just didn't you know what?

885
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: The guy has been hurt a lot lately, hasn't he has?

886
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: He been not playing very much? No, maybe I knew

887
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: something there. That's a question, what did you? Maybe I

888
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: knew something maybe maybe maybe maybe I fell into that.

889
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: That goes back to our conversation earlier about Nick and

890
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: how the injuries and durability. And I'll take I'll take Bosa,

891
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,800
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Speaker 1: a little spot called Who'd You Fight For? And so

955
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off with David Hellman. David, I don't

956
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: give me a guy that you would absolutely fight for

957
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: in the draft room. I don't like this game because

958
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: y'all are better scouts than I am. So but I

959
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: don't care because I formulate my own opinions. I just

960
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: think I still owe Jeff having all some money about

961
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: card L Jones. So, uh, we've all got those albatrosses

962
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: we wear around our neck. You hey, he's still in

963
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: the league. I don't feel bad about um, you didn't

964
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: like this guy? And and okay, whatever all he's trying

965
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: to make me bring me into this No, I would

966
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: fight for him. I don't want to make it sound

967
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: like I'm play Austin Bryant, Austin Bryant from Clemson because

968
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking I'm coming at this from a Cowboys perspective.

969
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm thinking about the fact there's no first

970
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: round pick here. If you told me I could get

971
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 1: this guy at fifty eight, I'd be pretty pumped because

972
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: I saw a guy and you know, I haven't watched

973
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: every pass rusher in the league, but like he can bend,

974
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: and he can bend. He can do some freaky pass

975
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: rush stuff. I know he's not the most well rounded

976
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: player in the world. He doesn't look that powerful up

977
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: and down game. He's got traits though he does have

978
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 1: some trade. He's got traits and sixty five he played

979
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: at Clemson. He was not the star of something. You know,

980
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: he wasn't on the caliber or some of the other

981
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: guys on that defensive line. But again, he's got traits

982
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: and if I could get him at fifty eight, I'd

983
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: be pretty happy. He can play on both sides of

984
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: the line. My note that I wrote is he fights

985
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: off blocks like a mofo. That's true. I wrote the

986
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: full word out. But like he's he's tenacious. Yeah, like

987
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: I said, he lacks power. He definitely got bullied by

988
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: some of the better tackles he played. Jacob's got him too. Yeah, yeah,

989
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: that's that's fair. But he seems like he's got a

990
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: high motor. He's always in pursuit. Uh. He and again

991
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: he's got traits. He played at Clemson, he started games

992
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: at Clemson. He's a talented guy. Again at fifty eight,

993
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if he falls that far day you

994
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: could tell me that, but like I would draft him

995
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: at fifty eight, I fall more towards this guy. Yeah, no,

996
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: I know, hate me. It's fine. No, don't you know

997
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: I would have said this before. That's the great thing

998
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: about being in the draft room. There are a lot

999
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: of guys tell me why I'm dumb. Go ahead, No,

1000
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a nice backup in the league. Um,

1001
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: I will just well, okay, but on the defensive line

1002
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: back up. It's another way of saying rotational player. Right,

1003
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: I'll take that. I had more negatives and positives, Like

1004
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: I like a lot of things that he did. It

1005
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: is just I don't know, I don't I didn't think

1006
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: there's any no how there, Like it was more based

1007
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: on like some of his production was born based on

1008
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: effort than like understanding of what he was doing. And

1009
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: that's that's not necessarily like the worst thing. Like I'll

1010
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: take a guy like that on my team. Sure, I

1011
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: don't know if I would take him my fifty eight.

1012
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: But the guy like watching him against Notre Dame, that

1013
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 1: was probably his best tape. Yeah, absolutely, But the full

1014
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: body of work, I don't think it was as impressive. Yeah,

1015
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: I didn't think he played with much burst. Um, he

1016
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: could bend a little bit, but I didn't see a

1017
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: lot of bursts. I didn't see a lot of power.

1018
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of the biggest problem I had.

1019
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: That was the thing I had the problem with him. So,

1020
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I'm glad that he brought that name

1021
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: up because that's a good name that we haven't talked

1022
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: about yet, and a name that kind of gets lost

1023
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: when we talked about the Clemson defensive linemen uh, because

1024
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: Farrell uh and the two interior guys get talked about more.

1025
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: So it's good that we talk about him because he's

1026
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: a top one hundred draft pick. He'll get drafted somewhere.

1027
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I see more of a

1028
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: backup than a guy that I'm gonna hang my hat

1029
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: on and say, yeah, he's definitely a starter. But no,

1030
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's good at your foot name, good name,

1031
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: good name. Who do you got? Um, I'm gonna go

1032
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 1: with let's go with Devin's singletary. Um who obviously people

1033
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: know about him, he's a well known prospect, But I

1034
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: think he's better than what people give him credit for.

1035
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: Like I think he's lish On McCoy and that's putting

1036
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: a lot on him, I understand, But I just he

1037
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: has such a unique ability to break tackles. Um. Seventy

1038
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: percent of his yards this year, seventy percent came after

1039
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: initial contact. Um. He just he has a rare bit

1040
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: to uh make guys run right. Uh. And he's got

1041
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of carries on his on

1042
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: his tape, like you know, a lot of production, but

1043
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: a lot of that. You know, he's taking some hits.

1044
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm taking the chance in this guy

1045
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: in the top forty picks and feeling really good about

1046
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: what he can do for my offense. If there were

1047
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: people lining up against you in this draft, on against him,

1048
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: and we were in a room, yeah, I would be

1049
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: right with you. Good, I would go with you. Can

1050
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: he catch? Oh this guy? Yeah he wasn't. I mean

1051
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: he did some like you know, like Texas routes, ye

1052
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: angled routes, but like he wasn't really asked to do

1053
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: a lot of, um, you know, much besides screens. So

1054
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: but he caught what he was he'd fit right in here. Yeah,

1055
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: he caught what he was asked to or you know,

1056
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: when targeted. So you know, I feel okay about that

1057
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: pass pro. You know, that's that might be an issue.

1058
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: But when the balls in his hands, that's where he's

1059
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: going to be a creator and just make things happen.

1060
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: He's really a shifty runner two if you haven't seen him, Yeah,

1061
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, Florida, Atlantic five nine two o two. I

1062
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: mean he's he'll bounce off guys too. I mean he's

1063
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: just one of those guys Boom boom. He's just kind

1064
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: of hitting off guys and next you know, he's the

1065
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: balls going down the field. So I got a real

1066
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: low center of gravity. Broken tackles one and thirteen. The

1067
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: FBS guy could be really elusive. Twenty five more broken

1068
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: tackles than the second guy second on the list. Yeah,

1069
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: as you can see, there's Dane's top position top ten

1070
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: players by it with the running backs. Jacob Singletary, Right,

1071
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't like that round projection though, Dane. We push

1072
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: it down, yeah, push it down around for who he's singletary. Yeah, yeah,

1073
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to draft a running back at fifty eight. Well,

1074
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: he's the guy you're probably looking at. You're probably looking

1075
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: at that group of Harris, Montgomery and Henderson. That would

1076
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: be the group you're probably looking at. No way, what

1077
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: I'll take the A and M kid right now, let's

1078
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: the third round? Is gonna be a sweet stead. I

1079
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: think absolutely trey ViOn Williams can be on this team

1080
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: anytime he wants to right the guy I'm gonna fight

1081
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: for in the table. I don't know if Dan Dane

1082
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: might go with me on this one. Eldon Jenkins. I

1083
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: considered him so yeah, good Mississippi States Center. You guys

1084
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: are in cahoots before, not at all, not at all.

1085
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: The whole point is to fight and no, no, no, no,

1086
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: no no no no, I'm trying to because he's probably

1087
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: got a center that you have a center that's better

1088
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: than him. Uh, Bradbury's better, right, Bradbury? Ye see, is

1089
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: Jenkins your top center? Jenkins would be one of my

1090
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: top center. Yea, so this is where this guy is better. Yeah,

1091
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: Bradbury's not as Bradbury's good, but this Jenkins kid from

1092
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. If you needed a center, this guy, I mean,

1093
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: he plays on his feet. He is never on the ground.

1094
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: He's got great upper body strength. He could sit down

1095
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: on his man. He could stay with his man in

1096
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: the running game too. That's something that's really when you

1097
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: watch them run the ball. I mean he's with this

1098
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: guy the whole time. He didn't fall off people. See,

1099
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: he could help across the pike's what's your grade on

1100
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: this guy? Oh? I have him in the I have

1101
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: in the second round. See. I want to fight y'all

1102
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: because y'all are the scouts. I get it, y'all are

1103
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: just trying to y'all are all about the players. I'm

1104
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: over here about the team, and I'll be damned if

1105
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: we're drafting a center in the second round. No, I'm

1106
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: telling if we were, we were just about player I know.

1107
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: Here's I know, but I'm I'm we're a full service

1108
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 1: garage here. I'm trying to find players for the team

1109
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: that I work for. Yeah. Part of the allure with

1110
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: Elgin Jenkins is the fact that he played four positions

1111
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: in college. Some teams are scouting him as a tackle. Yeah,

1112
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: so wow, this is a guy that that's impressive. Yeah. First,

1113
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, same with you know, conversation with Dalton Reisener. Uh,

1114
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: you know, the position versatility is a huge selling point,

1115
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: and that might be the Garrett Bradbury to me is

1116
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: the clear best center in this draft, but he's pretty

1117
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: scheme specific in terms of, you know, a zone blocking

1118
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: scheme and you know, but with Jenkins, he's more of

1119
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: your power guy. He's gonna he can play tackle, he

1120
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: played guard. He didn't make any mistakes, and say, you

1121
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: don't see any problems with him, like mentally centers, you're

1122
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: kind of like you could tell when centers busts, make

1123
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: busts and he doesn't bust Dave, you got a guy, Yeah,

1124
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: I got a guy. Go ahead, Which we talked about

1125
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: this before the show. Granted, what how many guys have

1126
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: you watched? About one hundred and eighty and Dane's seen

1127
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: six hundred something like that. I've watched twenty five, so

1128
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm trailing a little, okay, and by the other's Dane's

1129
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 1: top ten centers, so you can kind of see, yeah,

1130
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: that's right there with Bradbrey, Jenkins, mcgo, McGovern, and McCoy.

1131
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: Team McCoy is not a bad player. By the way,

1132
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: there are five yeah centers. If you're a center, you

1133
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: might you might be Okay here, all right, go ahead, David,

1134
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'll tell you about a guy that I

1135
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: really liked justin lane. Ah it's terrible. Oh thank god, Like,

1136
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: come on, man, Yeah, I'm with you. He's a good player.

1137
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: I think it's funny because he's a really good player. Okay,

1138
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: he's a six two, one hundred and ninety pound cornerback. Yeah,

1139
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: he's freaking he's pressed all the way. What round do

1140
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: you have him in? Man? Cornerback? I don't like to assign.

1141
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: I mean, looking at his tape. What how many games

1142
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: did we watch? Five? Five? Yeah, I mean, if you

1143
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: had to, I can't imagine you're talking about your team.

1144
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: But here's the name. I can't. I can't have the

1145
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: second round guy. I cannot imagine he falls out of

1146
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: the second round of the draft on his tape plus

1147
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: his his build. It's just it's funny because better than Mullin,

1148
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 1: the guy from Clemson. I struggled with Mullen and but yeah,

1149
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead there, No, Well, it's fun okay.

1150
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: I brought this up a few shows ago. Who's Who's

1151
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: the Clemson kid that we talked about a lot a

1152
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: few years ago that went to uh Tankersley, Yes, thank you,

1153
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: which surprised I remembered a name talked about him a lot.

1154
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,479
Speaker 1: Didn't really fit what the Cowboys wanted to do, which

1155
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: this might not have fit. This guy might not have

1156
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: fit before. But I really think I can't imagine that,

1157
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: like Chris Richard has to love this guy or will

1158
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: love him when he watches him, absolutely, because I think

1159
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: you could just put him on an island like that

1160
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: like you love to do in this scheme and be

1161
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: like whether it's you know, he's he's much better man.

1162
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: He runs a lot better man. I'm sure he could

1163
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: do Zone two if you wanted him to just put

1164
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: him out there and like worry about the rest of it.

1165
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: It's a good name, and he's a former wide receiver.

1166
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: He was recruited as a wide receiver, so you know

1167
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: he has the ball skills justin lane. He's got that

1168
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 1: build that teams love these. Yeah. Six I mean maybe

1169
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: he won't be six two when he actually measures out,

1170
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: but he's tall close, Yeah, he's tall. He's a Cleveland

1171
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: kid who everyone thought he's going to Ohio State and

1172
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: he actually went to Michigan State. Could surprise a lot

1173
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: of people. So, yeah, he's a big time player. The

1174
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: thing that I like that again, you know in all

1175
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: the games I watched, like he didn't get fooled, turned around,

1176
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: lost one. Like he's he's very confident in coverage, and yeah,

1177
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: I would fight for that. And for a former wide receiver,

1178
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: he's pretty tough as a tackler. Yeah, he's not a

1179
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: he's not a soft guy by any means. Tall cornerback

1180
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 1: that used to play wide receiver, playing in Chris Rashard's scheme. Yeah,

1181
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: all right, thinking of a former Stanford guy, Yeah, just

1182
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. And there's a couple of those guys.

1183
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: Isaiah Johnson from Houston's another one of those guys in Straft. Um. So,

1184
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, it combines me big for some of these

1185
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: bigger corners, the Joe Wan Williams, the Trevion Mullins, justin

1186
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: lanes that run well. So, um, I will go with

1187
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: and I could. I could go with Jilanni to vuy

1188
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: my my linebacker from why why I've been talking to him?

1189
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: Give me another name, Jonathan Abram from Missisippi State. And

1190
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: this is a specific type of safety. If you need

1191
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: a free safety, he's gonna play single high. It's probably

1192
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: not for you. But if you need a thumper, a

1193
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: tone setter, I would love to have Jonathan Abram my team.

1194
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: This guy is intense. He plays like it. He you know,

1195
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: moves like a speeding bullet all over the field. Uh.

1196
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna play special teams for you and just eliminate dudes.

1197
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: Jonathan Abraham is a player I would love to have

1198
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: on my team if I needed a strong safety, a

1199
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna be a thumper. Uh, and again a

1200
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: guy that could be a tone setter and you know,

1201
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: really be a leader of my defense. I'm gonna go

1202
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: with DeAndre Walker defensive end from George Good layer and

1203
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean he would generally plays a stand up guy,

1204
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: but you can put this guy's hand on the ground.

1205
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: He might play linebacker in this league when it's all

1206
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: said and done. But he has a real knack for

1207
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: taking on blocks at the point of attack and they

1208
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: try and trap him. He's physical, he knows how to

1209
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: get rid of that. He could squeeze the hole. He

1210
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: didn't get washed out of plays and then the guy

1211
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: didn't I got guys that don't play on their feet.

1212
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: He didn't get knocked around at all. He's a finisher

1213
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: for the position. He's got some violence to his game.

1214
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: He's got that burst I like that could chase the ball.

1215
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: So keep an eye on DeAndre Walker. He's a defensive

1216
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: end linebacker from the University of Georgie. Where's number fifteen

1217
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: if you're scouting him, and you'll get see a pretty

1218
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: good player from there. That's a guy would I would

1219
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: definitely fight for if with all these defensive ends in

1220
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: this draft, you know this is a guy again and

1221
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 1: now Dame Brugo's a list once again. The top guys

1222
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: you see Bosa, Alan, Gary Farrell, Polite Burn, sweat Ferguson

1223
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: Walker right down there, and he's got he's gotta that

1224
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: one two on him though. Man, that'll tell you what

1225
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: hell of a football player. He's a pastur specialist playing

1226
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: behind those you know, the Leonard Floyd, Yeah, those guys

1227
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: at Georgia. And then he took over as a starter

1228
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: this year and was lights out, big senior year for him.

1229
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: All right, guys, well that's all the time we have

1230
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: for the draft show today. I want to thank everybody

1231
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: for hanging out with us. We sure appreciate that. Dane,

1232
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: thank you, Dave, thank you as well. Kick Garrison's executive producer.

1233
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: We will see you from the Combine in Indianapolis starting Wednesday.

1234
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: Checkout Dallas Cowboys dot com. We'll have all the information.

1235
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: Follow these guys on Twitter and that way, we'll also

1236
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: tweet out when we're gonna have the shows up and

1237
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: run in. Until then, take care, guys,