Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
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Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper, He's Segre. It is your
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Speaker 1: FN started this show. We always looked at rappers, or
Speaker 1: we always looked at certain people as superheroes or superman.
Speaker 1: This guy that standing to the left of me, it's
Speaker 1: not only a superhero, a superman, a super genius, a
Speaker 1: super music icon, but he's also a fashion icon. He's
Speaker 1: also a visionary. He's also a person who speaks things
Speaker 1: into an existence. I remember he said, you don't know
Speaker 1: how sway and we figured out he didn't know how swife.
Speaker 1: In case you don't know who we're talking about, because
Speaker 1: we're talking about this is this is gonna be Drink
Speaker 1: Chaps biggest episode ever. I'm just going ahead and say that.
Speaker 1: Sorry to anybody else who's ever been on this table
Speaker 1: in this place, this is gonna be the biggest. In
Speaker 1: case you don't know what the funk we're talking about,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the artist formerly known as Kanye. He's
Speaker 1: just now yeah, god damn. So so let me get
Speaker 1: this right. You don't got a last name or first name,
Speaker 1: just got a name. I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 1: She is hard just yeah, yeah, yo, yeah, I thank
Speaker 1: you so much, man, because on the real, the real,
Speaker 1: I know you don't have to do this. Um, you're
Speaker 1: at a level in your life where it seems like
Speaker 1: you're free. She sounds like you just feel like you're
Speaker 1: you're doing You really showed up with no security, not
Speaker 1: have to get security for you. I'm sorry, I just said,
Speaker 1: I just said, you know, I just can't let you
Speaker 1: walk around like that because we're gonna kill somebody, somebody focus.
Speaker 1: I'm just going it out there. I'm just going out
Speaker 1: so sorry. We left that, we left that UM, like,
Speaker 1: but how is it like? How is it like? What's
Speaker 1: what's going on in your life? It's just because I
Speaker 1: heard you told me on the phone the other day.
Speaker 1: You said, you don't even You're not even you don't
Speaker 1: even have a house. That's how rich you are. You
Speaker 1: don't even have a house matter right now? How is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, I'll restore houses. I'm very into architecture, but
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not into the class system where it's
Speaker 1: like what that's one of the main things they used
Speaker 1: to control us. I think my whole existance is about
Speaker 1: not being out of control, but being out of their control,
Speaker 1: being in control of yourself. So the house is the
Speaker 1: first thing that they give you that your entire existence.
Speaker 1: And I look at it the skyscrapers in New York.
Speaker 1: I'm like, everybody's in all those buildings, spending that time
Speaker 1: away from their family working. One of the main things,
Speaker 1: the main thing is the idea of a house. Security. Yeah, security,
Speaker 1: because I remember saying, uh saying, I was arguing with
Speaker 1: this one publicists and I told the person, now, I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna have a house, and they fast on me, said,
Speaker 1: you've done too much in your life. To not have
Speaker 1: a house, you need to have like so try to
Speaker 1: impose was that idea? But you know, my home is
Speaker 1: just when when my daughter face times me, that's where
Speaker 1: my that's where my home is. You got land, I'm
Speaker 1: assuming you have land though. Yeah, and you were standing
Speaker 1: in Mercedes twelve thou but yeah, okay, but you were
Speaker 1: staying in the Mercedes Benz arena. What it didn't look
Speaker 1: like a cell. It looked like a jail cell out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well except for I could come and go. So difference,
Speaker 1: that's the difference. But yeah, you know, it's this idea
Speaker 1: that's monk lifestyle. Like I heard that. It's like trust
Speaker 1: fund kids. It's kind of on the same wave right
Speaker 1: now that they're being homeless on purpose. Uh. But I
Speaker 1: traveled to um to Paris like a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and I had to go through Lisbon because you can
Speaker 1: go through Lisbon without being vaccinated. I only got one
Speaker 1: of the shots. I'm fascinated I'd come to. I dropped
Speaker 1: in Lisbon. It's a fifteen hour ride and usually people
Speaker 1: say why I had to? I got to take this
Speaker 1: fifteen hour ride. Something Steven Spielberger told me this. I'm
Speaker 1: just have shameless names. It's gonna be like a lot
Speaker 1: of names. I love I love it. Hello, Good continued,
Speaker 1: So I sitting next to Oprah at this Ralphs Lorenda
Speaker 1: talking to Steven Spielberg continue across from Hillary Clinton. This
Speaker 1: is the first time I actually was with her. Good.
Speaker 1: So the and so I took this fifteen hour ride
Speaker 1: from Lisbon to Paris. But the thought was I get
Speaker 1: to take the ride. The ride was beautiful. So it's
Speaker 1: just a perspective on life, like when I go through
Speaker 1: just a different changes in my life and my family.
Speaker 1: A friend of mine said, are you sad? And when
Speaker 1: I really thought about it all to look at life
Speaker 1: like it was a video game, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: every part of it is really let the things that
Speaker 1: hurt you, the things that you're happy about, the things
Speaker 1: that uh that push your ego, that that supports your ego,
Speaker 1: and things that down your ego. Like I've been saying
Speaker 1: this like a couple of for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: like ego and anger love to hang out their best friends.
Speaker 1: Absolutely Ego angle, Yeah, yeah, definitely, so the moment, yeah,
Speaker 1: they definitely, they definitely blood more and more. You know,
Speaker 1: you lean into your ego. You know, I wrote the
Speaker 1: song that for Donda that you know we're gonna bring
Speaker 1: out on the bonus album. Uh, that's saying on the
Speaker 1: deluxe but it said if I let go, if I
Speaker 1: let go, let God and let go, I gotta let
Speaker 1: it go. I got and let's go. And it's why
Speaker 1: he's got this line that makes you think about Miami
Speaker 1: said lying into the man Driandrian. Actually it had the
Speaker 1: next line, but I like the and But it's like
Speaker 1: going to Paris. I get there and I get to
Speaker 1: the Ritz Hotel and they say they ain't got no rooms,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's a couple of times I just
Speaker 1: had to like pull my mask down. You don't have
Speaker 1: a room, and I put it, Okay, let me look
Speaker 1: for a room. That's a different kind of currency. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The vision of life is not to have money and possessions,
Speaker 1: is to have relationships and make it to the point
Speaker 1: where I've done so much for so many people that
Speaker 1: my money is can't spend anywhere and go to restaurant.
Speaker 1: They'd be like, yo, your money is no good here.
Speaker 1: So they start they're charging me for the room. They
Speaker 1: gave you a rule. They found a room and then
Speaker 1: the next day the CEO of Balenciaga came to pick
Speaker 1: me up, this guy named Cedric that actually I was
Speaker 1: trying to hire as a CEO. My boy John two
Speaker 1: to the head an a PC which is basically the
Speaker 1: French version of Gap, which is the first person, and
Speaker 1: really that was in a prestigious position to really let
Speaker 1: me do a collaboration with them, and so we had
Speaker 1: this a PC collection and sold out back in the
Speaker 1: day before Louis Louis Colap. You know what the Louis
Speaker 1: Clapp was first, that's right, yeah, thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: for I'm a fan the Louis Clap. I want to
Speaker 1: I wanna go back to certain things that the Louis thing.
Speaker 1: But so the CEO of Balenciaga picked me up. Now
Speaker 1: I came with all I got is just like a
Speaker 1: little bag that's like my house, and my house changes
Speaker 1: in size depending on how big my bag is. Like
Speaker 1: I had this one that was like a laminate size,
Speaker 1: and that once I got the Apple headphones, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: fit in it. So I had to get a bigger house,
Speaker 1: which end up being talk about a mobile home being
Speaker 1: end up being this one, right, And I'm so happy
Speaker 1: that does wear this uh this bag now, so yeah,
Speaker 1: the people could stop down to men, this is not
Speaker 1: for fashion. So so I ride to the Blessiaga store
Speaker 1: with the CEO of Blessiaga and I didn't have a
Speaker 1: change of underwear. But for what you know, I've done
Speaker 1: with Valenciaga, especially over the past four months. Guess with
Speaker 1: my underwear and socks in the being for the next
Speaker 1: four days in Paris, Valenciaga underwear for free. And that's
Speaker 1: when I was sitting there, I was like, yo, this
Speaker 1: is my vision on life to not even have to
Speaker 1: have a house and have a place in every single world,
Speaker 1: every single city, every single country that I could go
Speaker 1: to and somebody's like you could stay here, you can
Speaker 1: sleep here, like uh my dog boo. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: are you in my city? He was like, you in
Speaker 1: my city? And the first when I saw I was
Speaker 1: like Nigga, I was born in Atlanta. I was like,
Speaker 1: I humble myself, said yes, sir, a bunch of eyes
Speaker 1: with a bunch of eyes. Uh, and um, he's go.
Speaker 1: You know I'm now here working on casey, I'm in Houston,
Speaker 1: but you can stay at my crib and too I
Speaker 1: know I got a bunch of cribs I can stay
Speaker 1: at in New York. I know I got a bunch
Speaker 1: of cribs I can stay at. And you just move
Speaker 1: around like first it was like y'all seen think about
Speaker 1: most stuff. He chased the name that I've seen, and
Speaker 1: he started moving around, so I would think about how
Speaker 1: he was moving around, you know, just going through the airport,
Speaker 1: sometimes standing in line, sometimes not standing in the line,
Speaker 1: getting the Uber Uber be canceling on me. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say ubers trash now, I'm just saying I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. You told me that the other day. He said,
Speaker 1: you said you can calling Uber canceling on you. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Your father doesn't say I'm saying no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm really I really am canceling. I guess. But you
Speaker 1: don't have four point nine stars. And yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: even know barely, you know, I barely know how to
Speaker 1: work in I just got my Apple pay. You know,
Speaker 1: just man, you just got Apple Let's make some noise
Speaker 1: for you, pouess, because you really, I'm superhero. I got
Speaker 1: Apple pay. But that signed to make Apple pay go ahead? Cool?
Speaker 1: That was all that was that ball that ball. Okay,
Speaker 1: so have you watched Versus? Yes? Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm going with it. Yeah, would you step into that ring? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: But I would need about like folk people at to
Speaker 1: go against me at one time. I need I need producers,
Speaker 1: need people who made good albums. I need people made
Speaker 1: radio hits. I need every single Gemini specifically MC, I
Speaker 1: need every Okay, okay, did you five specially Gemini? Would
Speaker 1: you like like some Henessey? Would you like a glass? Well?
Speaker 1: You know that makes playing with Hennessey is doing to
Speaker 1: the community, So you know, we know what the people
Speaker 1: are gonna say. People are gonna say they want yea
Speaker 1: against who you think that people would think they want
Speaker 1: to see you against. That's only two people really out there. No,
Speaker 1: I think it'd be it'd be Drake, right, thank you
Speaker 1: and Hope. That's Oh I didn't think about that one.
Speaker 1: I don't think about that, right. No. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that you go against Jay No because that's
Speaker 1: my boss. I would never go against like that. Answer
Speaker 1: what you're saying when you and Drake together, who's winning that?
Speaker 1: I'm winning every situation. That's why I say only ship
Speaker 1: and who produced it was? Would it be dre but
Speaker 1: you so wise. That's why I said it got a
Speaker 1: bit that I need to have like a month long
Speaker 1: just different categories, different styles. You have a season of
Speaker 1: your own versus yeah, you At a certain point, I
Speaker 1: can just be versus myself. It could be this album
Speaker 1: against that album. I had to go dark fantasy against well,
Speaker 1: I don't think anything goes against dark fantasy, but college
Speaker 1: drop out against the old. Oh yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 1: You do the old. Yeah, We'll do all like sample
Speaker 1: drums versus trap drums. We could do all bars versus
Speaker 1: all different name changes, going against the different eras of
Speaker 1: Holy Movie. This is exciting ship, But you telling me,
Speaker 1: I just I just want to for the fast. It's
Speaker 1: not for me if Swiss come to you, because it's
Speaker 1: not about money. With you, I could tell it's not
Speaker 1: about money, but with Swiss. Timberland, say you and Drake
Speaker 1: against one another. You're saying you're gonna take it and
Speaker 1: you're gonna smoke. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, that's but it already happened.
Speaker 1: He played one of my leak songs and it was
Speaker 1: better than every other song this year. Because you've been
Speaker 1: leaked Drake's address. Correct, No, he advertised it when he
Speaker 1: was building the house. Everyone knows it. It's like a
Speaker 1: place in Canada. You go by, you sick, it's a monument. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every we didn't know that because you know, we were
Speaker 1: looking people over here. Yeah, you know you can find it.
Speaker 1: That's how I was able to find it. It's Google
Speaker 1: a boy, It's on Google Maps. That's my word. You
Speaker 1: know what made that word? What I will say, I
Speaker 1: understand that. You know, in all of the back and
Speaker 1: forth that me and Drake have had, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like the life. Life is like the NBA, and people
Speaker 1: are either on your team or they're on another team,
Speaker 1: and everybody plays games in different kind of ways, and
Speaker 1: you can't be mad for somebody went at the end today.
Speaker 1: This man has sold more records than anybody and part
Speaker 1: of his technique and basketball people got different techniques. Like
Speaker 1: I went to uh to the gym with Kobe and
Speaker 1: we didn't even really get to play ball. All he
Speaker 1: did was show me videos of Scottie Pippen, and you know,
Speaker 1: Scotti Pippen's got a wide wingspan, but he didn't talk
Speaker 1: about that. He talked about how fast he was moving
Speaker 1: his feet, and he was like, yo, This is inhuman, right,
Speaker 1: just inhumane. This is like and he was studying that.
Speaker 1: He wanted to learn how fast he moved his feet.
Speaker 1: So when Drake Drake, don't do a dislike outright this song,
Speaker 1: whereas the head shot, he's gonna set up set it
Speaker 1: up like war. You know, I'm like, yeah, when people
Speaker 1: went to go get Hitler, they didn't go straight for Hitler.
Speaker 1: They said a fake tanks they said. They said, So
Speaker 1: he's gonna do stuff like live five blocks down the
Speaker 1: street from you, DM, every scrept through the light switch that, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna like go and you know, DM, every single
Speaker 1: girl in your family, every single girl around your family, everybody,
Speaker 1: all your niggas, girl, he's gotta So it becomes like,
Speaker 1: so you already got that. It's like away games and
Speaker 1: home games and stuff like football, and this is a
Speaker 1: professional rap. Well this is the first time we're in
Speaker 1: a place of like professional rap. So all that there.
Speaker 1: So if he throws out a bar right here, it
Speaker 1: might be a bar only what what what said? You
Speaker 1: and I know what's going on, right, But it's all psychological, right,
Speaker 1: So it's like what pen what button? Is someone gonna
Speaker 1: hit wa wa can you hit him. It's like I
Speaker 1: was just at the game with J Prince last night
Speaker 1: and it was talking about how how many below the
Speaker 1: belts there were, how many this it was, and the
Speaker 1: whole thing about that record that yeah, you know how
Speaker 1: you know what it is. I got the perfect I
Speaker 1: never thought about this tonight. You know what, I bet
Speaker 1: his ere I bet his here it takes out, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because they see what Holy Phil
Speaker 1: was doing. They see what he was doing. Typson like
Speaker 1: telling the refs like, yo, yeah, I see this, don't
Speaker 1: see this. He's like, Tyson, I'm gonna take this in
Speaker 1: my own hands. I've never heard, but you may get me.
Speaker 1: I'm just because it's in front of me. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was a fight there. We're talking about this. We
Speaker 1: we've been, you know, discussing doing things together to uh
Speaker 1: to bring attention to Hoover situation. Um and I actually
Speaker 1: I got Larry Hoover with introduced myself. I recognized his face.
Speaker 1: So at a certain moment, I want to take a
Speaker 1: moment when you can talk about the exact understand this
Speaker 1: leader and political prisoner. You know, like when I went
Speaker 1: to the White House, I said this is me in
Speaker 1: a different dimension. You know, any one of us that
Speaker 1: can organize somebody, they're gonna take us down. They've been
Speaker 1: taking you know, the leaders and the fathers out of
Speaker 1: the community and only leave us with the hustler mentality
Speaker 1: because you ain't got a add that showing you how
Speaker 1: to save money, and we're property to buy and how
Speaker 1: to build your own factories. We're gonna be jumping up
Speaker 1: and down for the idea of like Virgil getting a
Speaker 1: job for Bernard or No or me getting a job
Speaker 1: at the Gap or Adidas a lot of times, just
Speaker 1: like we always born white, supremacist, racist and homophobic. That's
Speaker 1: the bottom, that's the baseline. That's another thing. I don't
Speaker 1: even got the word for it, but it's like a
Speaker 1: phobia of mental health. That's the thing where people try
Speaker 1: to write it off. That's like even when I cut
Speaker 1: my hair like that, I'm like, yo, they're gonna try
Speaker 1: to theme that at first, And I called it to Brittany.
Speaker 1: Now that could be called a yeah, but when I
Speaker 1: see when I see that, bro, I'm telling you, you know,
Speaker 1: the declaration of insanity as a form of censorship in control,
Speaker 1: what the hell you talking about? It doesn't count us.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Feds, Democrats, whatever, they they know
Speaker 1: who I am. So I was, I was up there like, man,
Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't do you know, this interview, because that's
Speaker 1: when they're really gonna they're gonna come. You gotta understand
Speaker 1: what Yeah, yeah, but it's all everything has like a
Speaker 1: butterfly effect. Kobe died on you know, in Calabasas. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, on the street where I would
Speaker 1: drive my kids to school. This video game, this is
Speaker 1: grant that Fatto is real, you know. So but you know,
Speaker 1: with me and Drake, we all really on the same team,
Speaker 1: just even on this planet period. We're on the same team.
Speaker 1: We we the people. We think it's our opts and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Once we understand and this is I
Speaker 1: think the job that God actually has for me is
Speaker 1: for us to all realize that we are playing inside
Speaker 1: of the same time. That's one thing we all got
Speaker 1: in common, and we're all in the same place in
Speaker 1: the Christian calendar at all times. We could be the
Speaker 1: first civilization to become civil a matter of fact, let
Speaker 1: me take out the world. Can I hate the world?
Speaker 1: Can I hate these like between you know, you can't
Speaker 1: verd can and should. And if it's like fits, it's
Speaker 1: like somebody you think it's with you, they're not really
Speaker 1: with you. They're like a four flag that could just
Speaker 1: fall any time. Your whole table fall over. Like that's
Speaker 1: why we have to will these things in fruition. So
Speaker 1: we say we will be the first civilization to become
Speaker 1: civil We're still in the dark ages. We attack each
Speaker 1: other mentally, we go back to the rap stuff. For
Speaker 1: me and Drake, this is we at World War three.
Speaker 1: This is warfare right here. What they do. People can
Speaker 1: comment on you online that you don't know. You can't
Speaker 1: come see them. You know what I'm saying, it's a
Speaker 1: career and create the suicide race is crazy. People's esteem,
Speaker 1: how you feel about yourself, body dysmorphia, overdoing it with
Speaker 1: the drip and did it all that. So I'm about,
Speaker 1: like Robin Hood, really breaking down the class system. That's
Speaker 1: why I went to the Gap. Like people say, man
Speaker 1: Virgi went to Louis, You went to the Gap. I said,
Speaker 1: I always wanted to create e Galatian again. Yeah, I work.
Speaker 1: I work for the Gaps. It was meant to be.
Speaker 1: I always felt like Gap was sort of like Apple
Speaker 1: of Apparel for me esteem and clothing and so connected
Speaker 1: your ego. Your ego connected to the first time my
Speaker 1: mom bought me some Jordan's in fourth grade. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what they was, the fours. I got the
Speaker 1: fours in fourth grade if I always looked for like
Speaker 1: lineups like that, and somebody told my mama, he gonna
Speaker 1: like this, And then I walked through the school and
Speaker 1: everybody was looking at my shoes. I don't even know
Speaker 1: about it. Then I would go visit my dad out
Speaker 1: in uh Tacoma Park, Maryland, and it was this rich
Speaker 1: kid that had enough Jordan's to be able to wear
Speaker 1: mismatch Jordan's like bb D and yet having with the
Speaker 1: Jabot shorts and with a polo shirt because I'm coming
Speaker 1: to address like heavy D with the metal with the
Speaker 1: tip of my shoes and stuff with like rayon shirts
Speaker 1: and polka dots. And He's like, we don't dress like that.
Speaker 1: No more were dressed like this. I came back to
Speaker 1: Chicago with the new style, and ever since then, I
Speaker 1: always been like ahead of niggas, and I always always
Speaker 1: like that feeling of being ahead. But if you're ahead
Speaker 1: long enough, you guys eventually you need to become the head.
Speaker 1: You need to become the leader. So I had the
Speaker 1: wildest conversation. And I remember one time, Laura gonna be
Speaker 1: mad at me by texta. I said, I'm I'm saying
Speaker 1: Lauren Lauren Hill. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: super name drops. And I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the leader. And she was like, you
Speaker 1: you are leader. You're not not lad. She said, you're
Speaker 1: a leaders. She didn't go leader, the supreme leader. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know the spring leader is God, but God
Speaker 1: ap points leaders at a certain point. There are leaders,
Speaker 1: you know, so all the like me too. Like when
Speaker 1: I sitting next to Marilyn Manson and and the baby
Speaker 1: right after both of them got canceled for five songs.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like they can't cancel us all. They said,
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle de Chappelin getting That's what I'm saying, We
Speaker 1: got it. And then it's like that hit you with
Speaker 1: like an accusation or somebody that you was with, you know,
Speaker 1: ten years ago. And then also it's like the women
Speaker 1: who have been through really serious things pulled in alleys
Speaker 1: against they will that's different than a hug. But it's
Speaker 1: classified as the same thing. It's classified as the same thing.
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's power and politics, you know, power
Speaker 1: hungry maniacs and just control. This is N four mind
Speaker 1: control that we're in to our mentality? To me, how
Speaker 1: you feel about counsel? Oh, man, I love it. I'm
Speaker 1: they trying to counsel you, is it? I'm love it.
Speaker 1: I'm above it. You know what I mean. I'm loved it.
Speaker 1: I'm above it. You know that that's the clouds when
Speaker 1: you're in the jet you look down at the clouds.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm like running to get cancer that doing
Speaker 1: this show. So it's like I'm thinking and then different
Speaker 1: people will call me and make suggestions to be like,
Speaker 1: you know, I suggestion you know, maybe you shouldn't be
Speaker 1: blind if you said jesting that to me? Why you
Speaker 1: so into it? Unless you're really into it, unless you
Speaker 1: really part of the mob. Because the mob. It got
Speaker 1: a couple of mob members here right now, most definitely,
Speaker 1: most definitely, you know what I'm saying, that different kind
Speaker 1: of mob. But they've gotta understand. They all doing their job.
Speaker 1: We're all here for a reason. God got a reason.
Speaker 1: God sees everything and if and if I'm if I'm
Speaker 1: still alive. Guys, that finished, like I said on four,
Speaker 1: which I wrote, UM actually wrote the day before Kobe
Speaker 1: passed the melody and we ended up and if anything,
Speaker 1: we went back and forth on this song. And when
Speaker 1: we did the listening event down and UM the listening
Speaker 1: event in Atlanta, the first one for hwed Land, we
Speaker 1: started with twitter alf Dona album. Yeah, we started with
Speaker 1: twenty four people about the trench just them end up
Speaker 1: making all right. And then the funny thing, I had
Speaker 1: a clip of Kobe and his daughter in the video
Speaker 1: and we called his wife everything and you couldn't get
Speaker 1: it cleared. But one of the things with Kobe passed,
Speaker 1: there was somebody that I used to work with whose
Speaker 1: wife literally tweeted, let's not forget that Kobe was accused.
Speaker 1: And that's what they said. That Snooper reacted to that
Speaker 1: because continue limnity. So that's what they said. Because you
Speaker 1: talk about superheroes, they don't want to uh what what
Speaker 1: the az say. They don't want to see a black
Speaker 1: man Turner, John Gotti or Calor. But like they don't
Speaker 1: want you to have this, They want you to have
Speaker 1: a house. They want you to have the cars. They
Speaker 1: want you to look at the numbers on you know,
Speaker 1: Billboard or Spotify that's completely controlled. They want you to
Speaker 1: look at your They want you to base your self
Speaker 1: esteem off of TikTok Hi God if another, if another
Speaker 1: thing to talk to me about, TikTok bro bro. It's
Speaker 1: it's fine, y'all could play, you know, praise God and everything,
Speaker 1: and that's great. I'm happy that it connects to my
Speaker 1: children and everything, but it's it's none of these things
Speaker 1: that can make me. And that's the idea of being
Speaker 1: a nomad. I like that term though, because I was
Speaker 1: talking to the head of Ikea about creating I'm sure
Speaker 1: he won't like that coming into it, like this's the
Speaker 1: first person that went in me to itself. You're not
Speaker 1: you're not laughing, you knowing like that. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the uproar. It comes the back of the president. What happened?
Speaker 1: He's gonna be like, So I was just talking to
Speaker 1: and said, look, we need to create um better situations
Speaker 1: for homeless people. You know, it's a really utopian dick
Speaker 1: dick hay, the concept of it. Okay, we're gonna eradicate homelessness.
Speaker 1: What about people who want to be homeless, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of them, a lot of people, so that
Speaker 1: would change. You gotta think we used to have water fountains.
Speaker 1: Now we got a plastic problem because the water bottles.
Speaker 1: That's capitalist. You know, everyone only thinks about themselves, especially
Speaker 1: our black leaders. When none of us run on stage.
Speaker 1: What none of us say, George Bush don't care about
Speaker 1: we are very self interest. Two of the best moments
Speaker 1: in American history. You said, George Bush don't care about
Speaker 1: black people. And when you told tell Us Swift that
Speaker 1: Beyonest had the best video, and I was very American
Speaker 1: history right there. That was very very what if we okay,
Speaker 1: did not hit that for the whole rest that man,
Speaker 1: you all got a gentle but that that's American history,
Speaker 1: Like what what what? What? What? What's it? Hennessy that night?
Speaker 1: That would tell us where when you said there, because
Speaker 1: why did you want to do that? You know why?
Speaker 1: I was showing both of my addictions. You know, I
Speaker 1: found my dad's playboy when I was five years old,
Speaker 1: and I started drinking beer or something in high school.
Speaker 1: So I actually was carrying both of my addictions, one
Speaker 1: in one arm one and the other I was actually
Speaker 1: talked in to go into the award show. At that time,
Speaker 1: it was don C's job to talk me into stuff.
Speaker 1: They find new people whose job will be to talk
Speaker 1: me into doing something that I don't want to do.
Speaker 1: Influences people around you. So uh, that night I said, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to this award show. I'm not sitting
Speaker 1: through this no more. Uh. And the very first award
Speaker 1: they sent me in the front. Now you've got single
Speaker 1: ladies videos like the time, right, yeah they got this
Speaker 1: is one of the best videos of uh in history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the single ladies. So it's not it's not that it's
Speaker 1: just for her when the artist does something that's that compelling,
Speaker 1: incredible week out of respect it like, I feel like
Speaker 1: this year is just should nobody just even put the
Speaker 1: album in the category album of the Year so I
Speaker 1: can finally have album a year because you don't want
Speaker 1: to be the person that beat down the Film of
Speaker 1: the Year. You know, you had to understand I made
Speaker 1: I May Watch the Throne and I May Wash the
Speaker 1: Throne and Dark Fantasy in the same year, my beautiful
Speaker 1: Dark Twisted Fantasy the same year, and neither of them
Speaker 1: got nominated. Problem of the Year not even nominated, not
Speaker 1: even nominated. So and you know what I love. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you all this. When white people
Speaker 1: say the word rapper, that is saying nigger. When you
Speaker 1: say it to me, you're saying you're getting away with
Speaker 1: saying nigger. Oh the rapper, Oh the rapper. Or like
Speaker 1: last night on the game they had my face on
Speaker 1: the chiron and on the screen and said hip hop
Speaker 1: artists specifically. I was like, you know, I got a
Speaker 1: pH d from the Art Institution of Chicago for the
Speaker 1: most prestige just our school in the world. Could I
Speaker 1: at least be called an artist? But you know here
Speaker 1: it's like in America, they're not going to just give
Speaker 1: it to you, but it's it's it's to be bought,
Speaker 1: it's to be taken. What I'm saying. Look at this point, bro,
Speaker 1: this is like there will be blood. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not ragon's blood. Uh yeah, absolutely, dragons blood in the
Speaker 1: Bible they got dragons. Absolutely, yeah, there will be blood. Bro.
Speaker 1: Like remember when the dude brother acted like he is
Speaker 1: his brother and everything, and like try. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're seeing this movie. It's one of my favorite movies,
Speaker 1: but that's me, Bro, that's me. Bro. It's like the
Speaker 1: kid with the pink polos. I'll be telling people like, yo,
Speaker 1: it's not like that. No more with me at period,
Speaker 1: like bro, like because you know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 1: did everything. God gave me that six point six, like
Speaker 1: right when they announced that Kim was filing for divorce
Speaker 1: one week later whatever, I was like, na, na, this
Speaker 1: is my son right here at six point six. And
Speaker 1: Forbes was always on some white supremacist ship like down
Speaker 1: in me for three years. They're like, Kylie a billionaire,
Speaker 1: You're not a billionaire, you know. And even in my
Speaker 1: Forbes if you read the article, it's like it's drench
Speaker 1: with some like Jackie Robinson. Everything is safe yea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So the the idea of what it even means to
Speaker 1: be a billionaire, but to have not colored inside the lines.
Speaker 1: You know, my mom was born into a drinking fountain.
Speaker 1: They told her what fountain she could drink out of.
Speaker 1: Now we're born into a vote. They literally call it
Speaker 1: the black vote. And by the way, we blooded Christ,
Speaker 1: we blooded Moses. We're not just a color in the crayon, boss.
Speaker 1: And if we knew that who we really were, we
Speaker 1: treat each other differently. We treat ourselves differently. So when
Speaker 1: you say I'm black and I'm proud, like, but of
Speaker 1: what what? What concept? Are we? Are we understanding? They said,
Speaker 1: go see the African History Museum. Why do they start
Speaker 1: when when the boats came? Why don't they start with
Speaker 1: the drums? Oh they don't want it. But we are kings.
Speaker 1: But the four hundred years doesn't have to deal with slavery.
Speaker 1: It has to deal with the Bible. It has to
Speaker 1: deal with us being disobedient to God. And that's why
Speaker 1: we farm land that is in our own record labels.
Speaker 1: The NBA, Hollywood, these boys be scared. They'd be sitting there,
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan be telling my cousins like, man, I
Speaker 1: want to do what you do, but I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: I'm right here, you know, Like Kevin Harvey's like, man,
Speaker 1: I like that, I'm envious to what Dave Chappelle could do.
Speaker 1: And then they're sitting it at us. Me to him
Speaker 1: say this tech blah blah. He said this. He said
Speaker 1: that It's like, boy, just there would be blood. Stop
Speaker 1: working with me because y'all sucking with my money. You're
Speaker 1: doing ship. I got eighty accounts right now, I got people.
Speaker 1: That's like, why I got eighty accoun eunse that's that
Speaker 1: Bob Marty through the toe. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I make hundreds of millions a year. Then I look
Speaker 1: up and it's like, yoh, I got thirty people down
Speaker 1: to Sunday Service. You know, thirty extra people. That's thirty cars,
Speaker 1: thirty flights, thirty mini bars, thirty uh movies? Who watching? Hey,
Speaker 1: nobody load up this movie? Who wants to see? But
Speaker 1: I wish I had the name of a funniest movie
Speaker 1: they don't really want to see. That would have made
Speaker 1: it funny. But who want to see this movie? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? These just moves. And I looked,
Speaker 1: I come up, I had it was one dude work
Speaker 1: on me. I said, how many stories has I got?
Speaker 1: I said, eighty uh eight storages. And then my wife,
Speaker 1: because she's still my wife. It ain't no, it ain't
Speaker 1: no paperwork, that's all. So I gave it to her
Speaker 1: because she's really good at stories. She loves like this
Speaker 1: is her her pastime. It's like organized. So when she
Speaker 1: went to the Storge, she's like, you got thirty six storages.
Speaker 1: That's a that's that's a silent murder. That's gas. That's
Speaker 1: like poison. And you slow through the wabi or something,
Speaker 1: and every little piece of a suit. You got Japanese whiskey,
Speaker 1: you know, let's switch let's switch it up to the
Speaker 1: Japanese talk about I'm trying to get Biggie Begie Bee
Speaker 1: is gonna be nor begie every everything, and put my
Speaker 1: wife popping bottles of Jesus so as big as walked in.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen. There was Biggs right there,
Speaker 1: but I always tell her what I said. When you
Speaker 1: asked me if I do it? Verses with Jake, he
Speaker 1: said no, why Why why I say I wouldn't. He's
Speaker 1: the boss. That's what you said, right we recorded, But
Speaker 1: damn you got the box? Get the box? Okay? Yeah
Speaker 1: please yo yo. Yeah, we don't know if you know.
Speaker 1: Ostow was about giving people they claw was while they're alive.
Speaker 1: And we need you to know how much you're important
Speaker 1: to us. Wow, this is we need you know because
Speaker 1: I said it in the beginning, but I want you
Speaker 1: to I want to reiterate this because I want you
Speaker 1: to really know. You know, how many not just black youth,
Speaker 1: not just Spanish youth, not just white youth. But how
Speaker 1: you are really inspirational to a whole generation, made people
Speaker 1: dress different, You made people you know, want to want to,
Speaker 1: really have the albums produced greatly again. You bring that
Speaker 1: back to hip hop. And I want to tell you
Speaker 1: that as face to face man and man out of eye,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you, We love you, and you mean the
Speaker 1: world to us. And you did a record for me
Speaker 1: back in the days. I don't know if you remember,
Speaker 1: and you don't even charge me. I ain't have it though,
Speaker 1: I ain't have it. He was way too expensive and
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I was like, like, he said, it's good
Speaker 1: you so in the house. Any different stuff for me
Speaker 1: on my mixtages back in the day. I know he's
Speaker 1: not gonna remember that. It's still one of my lines.
Speaker 1: You said, Um, I go to Jacob with you keep me.
Speaker 1: I made a whole song. I gotta pass right now.
Speaker 1: You got your first goal singer nigger. Wow. I was
Speaker 1: looking at because I said, but yo, were so you
Speaker 1: wanna do some hippie. Let's give him a new glass
Speaker 1: now glass, no class, that's a new glass, okay, alright,
Speaker 1: cool Biggs. I'm sorry, it's too am, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: drink to what us two? Goddamnit, I'm looking dead at you.
Speaker 1: What I know. You know what's funny. I just bought
Speaker 1: a bigger house last night. I got a backpack. That's
Speaker 1: this moment we're talking about the mobile homes. That's my own.
Speaker 1: That my house. My home is when my daughter faced
Speaker 1: time me and my house. Is that? Okay? So this
Speaker 1: is who I'm going to ask you. One of the
Speaker 1: most controversial records or most dopest records I've ever heard
Speaker 1: you make was Big Brother was Big Brother Used to Be?
Speaker 1: And I thought that that was so honest because a
Speaker 1: lot of people, Um, I believe the word jealous. It's
Speaker 1: not a bad word, but I'm sometimes you could be
Speaker 1: jealous and saying I want what this person wants, because
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're hating. Hate is something different. Hate is
Speaker 1: I despise you. And I felt like that's not what
Speaker 1: it was saying what with that record, But it was
Speaker 1: like I want to slot and I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stop it. No, me's getting incorrect. Yeah, absolutely, And I
Speaker 1: think about when I do things, you know, I go
Speaker 1: and be on my monk. I'm just traveling the world.
Speaker 1: I have a home stuff. And but when we go
Speaker 1: in like we're just doing the listening sessions, we want
Speaker 1: to make it hurt. That's what competition is. We may,
Speaker 1: we may everybody push their summer back. You know, Drake
Speaker 1: pushed back those release dates. That's for fact that that actually,
Speaker 1: you know, actually happened. And then they had people come
Speaker 1: out saying, oh, you know, he um you know the
Speaker 1: other thing I taught this thing that Style said about
Speaker 1: this going back and forth. Honestly, it's it's interesting to people.
Speaker 1: But man, I love Drake. I love all artists period,
Speaker 1: but not even to mention I love Drake, I love
Speaker 1: all this. Let's let's have Drake just have his his
Speaker 1: father of what he meant in my life specifically and
Speaker 1: what he's meant to wrap you know, over the past
Speaker 1: decades specifically. This is a very the I would say
Speaker 1: the most if I wasn't me most, but this is
Speaker 1: this is a very um important artists that actually added
Speaker 1: something to the algorithm. Because watch this is like our
Speaker 1: phone I mean our phones have what do you call there?
Speaker 1: Like the hard drives and the way somebody micro trips
Speaker 1: pros their processes. Right, we are God's ultimate iPhone. We
Speaker 1: are God's favorite creation. So if if Steve Jobs was God, uh,
Speaker 1: we would be his iPhone. And we are simply programmed,
Speaker 1: and we go with the program. And some are programmed
Speaker 1: and some of the unprogrammed are people who they say
Speaker 1: are crazy, easier, people who go off the rails, people
Speaker 1: who end up homeless. And the program are the people
Speaker 1: who go with the program. And you have this thing
Speaker 1: like when I said, when I hit you with a
Speaker 1: w y D, you better than that hit me with
Speaker 1: an h G Y better be like Hi with a
Speaker 1: bunch of eyes or Hey with a bunch of wi.
Speaker 1: And so it's you know, people heard that song would
Speaker 1: text me back with a bunch of eyes. Are a
Speaker 1: bunch of wies. We just right there adjusted the programming.
Speaker 1: That's simple. That's what media. That's a mind control. It's
Speaker 1: all about can you be a part of the programming.
Speaker 1: What I say that Drake is he added something to
Speaker 1: the algorithm. As we become more civilized and more sophisticated.
Speaker 1: The style of rap that he was doing was more
Speaker 1: sophisticated than the style of rap that I grew up on.
Speaker 1: Now I had notes from nas and rock him and
Speaker 1: obviously from me, but also had notes from Shane had No.
Speaker 1: Some people want to make jokes about that, but it
Speaker 1: made it massages. You got pay so you real, Nick
Speaker 1: just going up so peop, I'm sorry, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: cut you off. So so that made it. His music
Speaker 1: was more accessible at this time when like rap wasn't
Speaker 1: as successible, and he created this thing that actually has
Speaker 1: good melodies in it, you know, good good music in
Speaker 1: it that became massively uh accessible. So it's sort of
Speaker 1: like the iPhone. Music is such an interesting thing to
Speaker 1: create a genre, to create it, because grab music right now,
Speaker 1: grab it with your hands. It's like, uh, it's in
Speaker 1: the air. It's intangible. It's intangible, like the concept of
Speaker 1: a relationship. You know what I'm saying. You you you
Speaker 1: you with somebody you might only see him twice out
Speaker 1: the week. If you're married, you might only see him
Speaker 1: two hours a day, three hours a day before I'll
Speaker 1: go to sleep. But y'all together, it's a concept that
Speaker 1: you you you live on an idea, you know, and
Speaker 1: this and this g t a we are an idea
Speaker 1: from For instance, I gotta say this to Boo, I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like he knew that I was working
Speaker 1: on cities. He knew he wasn't working on cities. But
Speaker 1: when you think about a city, who you think about
Speaker 1: a con So I feel like who was like, man,
Speaker 1: you know you know you're about to drop the city
Speaker 1: right now? I get yeah, which just period civilizations? Your man? Right?
Speaker 1: He was like, are you working on the EPCOT, you know,
Speaker 1: cities of the future. I'm like, man, how do you
Speaker 1: know that? He said, no, I know way, but I
Speaker 1: know what wave you on? So um because no, one
Speaker 1: never liked to go to Wyoming until you went there, yeah,
Speaker 1: or even afterwards. Apparently some people after the yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a step. You know. The problem is they say,
Speaker 1: y'all talking to j Prince and talking to Elon another
Speaker 1: We're gonna do another driver, Yes, continue Elon Elon Wilson.
Speaker 1: So I was talking to Jay Prince and talking to Elon,
Speaker 1: which I that's an amazing combinations. It's amazing spectrum. That's
Speaker 1: actually closer than we think. Why is it so far?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When I think about, you know,
Speaker 1: certain people's ability like business, someone he knows how to
Speaker 1: read a contract is That's how it's very few of
Speaker 1: us that's seven ft tall, and very few of us
Speaker 1: this three ft tall. We all play our position inside
Speaker 1: of this modern day Wakonda that we actually in. We
Speaker 1: have to brink of it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: After this interview, I possibly could be taken out, But
Speaker 1: the interview has happened though, because I've infected y'all to
Speaker 1: think in the way we infected. Well, it's like when
Speaker 1: they say this is the Man of Moon, this is
Speaker 1: the first black animal. It's telling people like investors, the
Speaker 1: people were having back always with the black white person.
Speaker 1: First of all, we're all being as a light. We're
Speaker 1: not we're not even classified under race. But if we're
Speaker 1: gonna be inside the race conversation, don't be telling me
Speaker 1: what you then did for the black people. I started
Speaker 1: the black spack or this black or this black investments
Speaker 1: for hair, hair clippers and what you think you know
Speaker 1: I might be I remember being out in San Francisco. Bro,
Speaker 1: It's like I ain't never made money with not one
Speaker 1: person from Silicon Valley that if you ever saw the
Speaker 1: show Silicone Valley, Like the opening episode was Kid Rock
Speaker 1: performing and he said I'm Kid Rock, and then nobody
Speaker 1: clapped at the end of his performance, and one dude says, other,
Speaker 1: uh see that kid rock he'd broke this person here.
Speaker 1: That best describes my experience in Silicone Valley, whether I'm
Speaker 1: sitting with Google, whether I'm here with Mark Zuckerberg, whether
Speaker 1: I'm sitting man. I already been shadow band. They shot
Speaker 1: Obami in the middle of the election. So what I
Speaker 1: got to lose? I don't use Twitter and my friend
Speaker 1: I'm friends with Jack's dorsey. I get shot, like I said, man, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all shodowa. He hit me back, said I don't see
Speaker 1: anything weird here because you're not look at you gave me.
Speaker 1: I didn't Inhale asked answer to why I got Shadow
Speaker 1: Band after I went to Haiti. They don't see your stuff.
Speaker 1: They don't see that. You don't know the sloat up.
Speaker 1: If you go right now and load up Emmanuel album
Speaker 1: by Sunday Service on Apple, if you don't type it
Speaker 1: all the way to the very end, it ain't gonna
Speaker 1: pop up. It's little things inside of But let's clear
Speaker 1: you was a little crazy on Twitter at one point.
Speaker 1: Remember you was kind here, But does that get it right?
Speaker 1: From them to shadow Bands freedom of speech, taking that
Speaker 1: away many and it was the craziest thing exposing that exposed.
Speaker 1: And I had ten contracts that everybody or around me
Speaker 1: knew I had ten contracts. Everybody that supposedly cared for
Speaker 1: me knew I had ten jam no more right, I'm
Speaker 1: off of it now. But what I'm saying is I
Speaker 1: signed contract after contract after contract after contract, and it's
Speaker 1: no one. It's like one of my skill sets is
Speaker 1: not reading, one of my skill sets is not counting.
Speaker 1: And people are like, oh, you need to learn how man.
Speaker 1: I ain't telling anything to learn how to dress. I'm
Speaker 1: not telling. But if we moved as a family in
Speaker 1: a community, you know what Jay said, say, we can fall,
Speaker 1: we can each other's crutches, We could benefit each other.
Speaker 1: But the system tears us apart. Left and right. Jaye,
Speaker 1: this way, Dayn't that way? Yead this way, Virgil that way.
Speaker 1: We're stronger together. We impenetrable together. We have to vote
Speaker 1: that we have to vote as a block. We vote.
Speaker 1: I would have voted for you for president. I don't
Speaker 1: know what did you see me on the kid? I
Speaker 1: went on the campaign. I was talking, we talked about
Speaker 1: it talking. I was like I was like five, supposed
Speaker 1: about myself, like a lot of people supported me here
Speaker 1: I wanted you. But we're talking about when praise got
Speaker 1: to appreciate it. When it's time to get free, the
Speaker 1: only way we're gonna do it is by leverage and anchors.
Speaker 1: Like the Jewish community is not the most people in America,
Speaker 1: but they understand how to collectively use their leverage to
Speaker 1: have a position that serves them. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying now, I keep on saying that we're us, we're
Speaker 1: collective humanity, We're collective, but we're so easy to get
Speaker 1: into like an ego thing, just like what the Drake thing. Man,
Speaker 1: I love Drake. I was just telling you things that
Speaker 1: he was doing in the professional game of rap that
Speaker 1: was throwing me off. And then okay, I bet his
Speaker 1: ere you know what I mean that, And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: That was Mike Tyson home field. I was professional sports
Speaker 1: were in professional rap. Meaning it's too many people that
Speaker 1: get paid off of either of us for it's something
Speaker 1: to happen to either of us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we on the record. I'm gonna do this, No, no,
Speaker 1: not ridiculous at that point. Yeah you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So uh and why you know? And life is just
Speaker 1: so fun and it's it's lit and we get to
Speaker 1: be professional, you know, rappers for a period of time
Speaker 1: out of our life and pulling this energy and have
Speaker 1: people talking about it. But it's a certain responsibility. I
Speaker 1: think that it's a it's a redemption, a redeeming quality.
Speaker 1: That's what I have. I'll be going to sit down
Speaker 1: with Drake to say this just as O g to him.
Speaker 1: Is the redemption Like I I asked him for the
Speaker 1: beat for T s U. That's my favorite song on
Speaker 1: See How Bea and say Mama is nine around and
Speaker 1: that is nine around little boy. Yeah yeah, so uh,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do a joke like, man, you don't
Speaker 1: know what the name of album. I'm not exactly you
Speaker 1: want him, but I live in I'm kind of the
Speaker 1: man and I'm sorry to say sorry to me. I'm
Speaker 1: fine with you noting you get here one time. This
Speaker 1: is great, great, but but the redeptive, the redemptive quality
Speaker 1: is like that third verse because if you just leave
Speaker 1: it as it is, it's gonna stay as this and
Speaker 1: for me, in my opinion, Lucy and Grada got no
Speaker 1: problem with his staying as this. I got a problem
Speaker 1: with hi staying as this. I gotta you know, it's funny.
Speaker 1: I call uh Damien Hearst that did Drake's cover because
Speaker 1: I felt like I didn't like the cover. I felt
Speaker 1: like he was trying to troll them or something. I
Speaker 1: love Damian Hurst. I just bought a couple of his
Speaker 1: pieces right now. One of my top five favorite artworks
Speaker 1: of all time. As these animals. He put in embalm
Speaker 1: and fluid. So you know, when you do my interview
Speaker 1: with y'all should have it just things just pop up
Speaker 1: at the bottom. So he did this shark. It's kind
Speaker 1: of similar to the scene in the sale that had
Speaker 1: j Lo by Tar Samuel Horse separated like this. So
Speaker 1: he actually did this. And I bought a dove for
Speaker 1: my family for my wife to put it there. And
Speaker 1: I bought this black sheep because that's you know, that's um,
Speaker 1: that's me. So I'm bought a black sheep. It's an
Speaker 1: actual black sheep and embalming fluid, and it's by Damien
Speaker 1: Hursts who did the Drake album cover, so it's physically
Speaker 1: it is it is. Uh No, I actually bought um
Speaker 1: actually bought living Sheep, but I bought one. Yes, so
Speaker 1: the U. So it's that third verse I used to
Speaker 1: wrap like this. I would say, um girling, give me
Speaker 1: know as you need to go down, and the next
Speaker 1: line I would say, the pastor said I need Jesus.
Speaker 1: So I went to the church and let the water
Speaker 1: wash over my season. I always gave a redemption, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, it's like what bone Thugs
Speaker 1: told you about, you know, fans sitting with them saying,
Speaker 1: make negative music that's gonna put more of us in jail.
Speaker 1: It's it's documented, you can load it up. So we
Speaker 1: do that and you get like of God people, Travis Scott, Drake,
Speaker 1: Kanye West. We we of God, God's plan, and then
Speaker 1: we make these songs that don't have uh a redemptive quality.
Speaker 1: And what we're saying because maybe we're trying to look
Speaker 1: harder and be cooler. It's that younger whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and act like we're ready to die as much as
Speaker 1: people who really got you know, ten bodies And really
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to cooking up what did it? Because the
Speaker 1: rumor is that Drake trying took a shot at you
Speaker 1: on that song but having Scott was on that same
Speaker 1: song Marriedship. Oh yeah, I'll put everybody on a group text.
Speaker 1: Everybody gets the group. And what I don't like is like,
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm talking, who's in this group to
Speaker 1: It was Jay Z, Kim Kardashian on the song this.
Speaker 1: I talked to j at the wedding the other day.
Speaker 1: He didn't know when he did the song that me
Speaker 1: and Drake had a problem. So after it came out,
Speaker 1: he's not in it that I did. I did it
Speaker 1: before the fact. But when I'm saying this, so it's
Speaker 1: that Traff. But then Drake says, it's like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the guild. I have somebody
Speaker 1: put you on the guild and which means put you
Speaker 1: on a T shirt? Right, And I'm talking to everybody
Speaker 1: that's in this community on the on album No, not
Speaker 1: on a group of group text. He said. On the song, um,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking all he says, Kid Cutty, uh, push you, Drake,
Speaker 1: jay Z, Kim and Traff. One of the lines I
Speaker 1: said that was legend as I said I'm worth more
Speaker 1: than all of y'all on his text combined. Yah, that
Speaker 1: was a what what what? Did you say that was
Speaker 1: I don't know what you just wrote that in the
Speaker 1: text group with everybody. Yeah, that was one of the
Speaker 1: elements of the text. Okay, but this is anti cat
Speaker 1: but everybody, you know, everybody want to as soon as
Speaker 1: I started dropping bars, oh my god, he's in the episode.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he needs to go to the hospital.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, oh, oh my god,
Speaker 1: and it's just oh god, oh no, no, this is
Speaker 1: like you're going to so I just gotta shut up.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, as a community, we have
Speaker 1: to police police ourselves. So if you know, you got
Speaker 1: a person that's you know, we're in the league. We're
Speaker 1: in a league of our own, right, It's like the
Speaker 1: NBA life itself. But then also this like celebrity influential
Speaker 1: place of like musicians and influences and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and they have ship that's called like flake ripped Fouls
Speaker 1: inside of the league. So in the scoop chat, did
Speaker 1: you tell Travis Scott was exactly because you know, the
Speaker 1: thing is he could have put the line on without
Speaker 1: everybody knowing. So that means I felt like everybody should
Speaker 1: go to Drake and be like, you ain't saying that
Speaker 1: to North St. Chicago and Psalms and Dad because he
Speaker 1: could be seeing ship that's poking at me and and
Speaker 1: and driving me crazy, and then if I do something
Speaker 1: that seems crazy, then they just blaming me. It's like
Speaker 1: every nigger that got locked up, it's a reason they
Speaker 1: didn't do it, just because their life was perfect and
Speaker 1: they had all the opportunities in the world and their
Speaker 1: dad brought them up. It's very few people like that
Speaker 1: that's born serial killer. That's what they want to do.
Speaker 1: People are always there for a reason and ain't nobody
Speaker 1: like you know, this conversation where Drake is like, you know,
Speaker 1: I never fucked him, but I was like, but you
Speaker 1: acted like you did. You got bars, just like hidding heels,
Speaker 1: give your wife the chills. You're doing all kinds of
Speaker 1: It's like somebody throwing a marble and hiding their hand
Speaker 1: or something like that. It's like you all that disrespectful.
Speaker 1: We had this conversation. We had this conversation and this
Speaker 1: is all and to the point where Kim be like,
Speaker 1: I don't listen to this nigga no more. This ain't
Speaker 1: acting like he fucked and like we ain't never really
Speaker 1: like we We never really had that conversation at all.
Speaker 1: I never sucked him like no, but what about all
Speaker 1: the did you ever d m her? Did you ever?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, everything else around it, you know,
Speaker 1: because it ain't about just the actual act of it,
Speaker 1: you know, the act the anticipation of something is that
Speaker 1: is what we live in now is the shortest moment
Speaker 1: of our life. Now that now that was just there's
Speaker 1: just gone now, you know what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 1: could be sitting there like did he did he not?
Speaker 1: That's worse than if you would rather you did. And
Speaker 1: I just actually, yeah, deal with the finality because my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm like a Xerox printer, you know, I'm Christian. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you something. I talked to a healer that said,
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with resentment from multiple lives of disloyalty by
Speaker 1: the way I felt, you know, with Virgil going to
Speaker 1: Louis and just things that jealous. So it actually was
Speaker 1: because that's what we heard. Yeah, absolutely I was jealous.
Speaker 1: What do you mean? I'm a human being and people
Speaker 1: try to tell you what the saying press and what
Speaker 1: to feel like, you don't feel that you was in
Speaker 1: my situation and you're riding. No, no, this is the
Speaker 1: other thing, sickle mode. They would play it at the
Speaker 1: kids party, So I'd have to bring my kids to
Speaker 1: a party with this man threatening my life on a
Speaker 1: song Welcome to Calabasas. And then they wonder why you
Speaker 1: end up, you know, in the hospital. This it has
Speaker 1: to be some type of respect, a male perspective, God perspective,
Speaker 1: and some type of community leadership. And I'm the leader.
Speaker 1: And that's what I told, Yeah, told Laurie about told everybody,
Speaker 1: I'm the leader. Let's look at it. Let's open up
Speaker 1: this Bible. No, you're your grandmother. You need Jesus, that's what.
Speaker 1: Because praise God because all of this that we're doing,
Speaker 1: it ain't adding up to nothing. And now God is
Speaker 1: pointed at me and said, this man worth nine billion dollars.
Speaker 1: This man, this man and that, and that's pretty good
Speaker 1: for a black man. Since I was all the black
Speaker 1: first of all, I said that before. We gotta take
Speaker 1: the black version off it because I'm running I'm running
Speaker 1: circles around you know, all the other Uh you know
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, Yeah that black or white, But
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do to the world. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: got me? I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean, like, look at Moses.
Speaker 1: In order on it. For Moses to be Moses, he
Speaker 1: had the ability to be able to take down anybody else.
Speaker 1: That's my thing. If I'm a rap on a song,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna do a beat, if we talk about money,
Speaker 1: whatever we're talking about, I'm gonna be the Moses of
Speaker 1: the situation because that's what God annoyed me, that skill
Speaker 1: set to be able to do that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like, I can you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have Drake write a verion. I know, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have Virgil do a song for you, But you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have Drake pick out a purse for you, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I would compete with both
Speaker 1: of them at the same caliber, you know, competing with
Speaker 1: Virgil at Louisa time with my little brown sweatshirts. Somehow
Speaker 1: this man been annoying it with. So that's why I
Speaker 1: said I put him on a group text And it
Speaker 1: wasn't about the magic arc terics or kid cutty dress.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know how it is if you're texting
Speaker 1: a girl or girl text you back. They might just
Speaker 1: to gain some position. Text you back, slow different things.
Speaker 1: I don't let me tell you as the leader, I
Speaker 1: don't operate like that. Don't be on my phone, gonna
Speaker 1: touch him, take him back. So if I or don't
Speaker 1: or don't be or don't be on my phone, I
Speaker 1: don't work with like I tell you, I'm a Xerox printer,
Speaker 1: meaning I could. I could see a dinosaur bone and
Speaker 1: build a dinosaur out of it. Mentally, So if I
Speaker 1: hear a verse, I'm gonna build a dinosaur, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hear dinosaur borne out of a line too, because people
Speaker 1: could look and be like, oh, he never did this,
Speaker 1: But that don't mean that line hasn't built an entire
Speaker 1: dinosaur bone. And this is a perfect time for me
Speaker 1: to come back, because you gotta understand I was yea.
Speaker 1: And then they started making more ya's m M watch this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like this encompassing thing of fashion, bars, beats, production
Speaker 1: videos this, And then what happened is you get Rocky
Speaker 1: dressing better than be Tyler making better videos, Drake more records,
Speaker 1: Virgil higher position in fashion, and Jacole more backpack or
Speaker 1: Kendrick better bars and stuff. So I literally had to
Speaker 1: go like Thanos, and I don't want to have to
Speaker 1: be the villain. But when I went and did the
Speaker 1: Donda thing, he returned and everybody had to sit back
Speaker 1: and watch the real leader. They can talk about goats
Speaker 1: and this and that. It's like because I affect people
Speaker 1: twenty years older than me, I affect people twenty years
Speaker 1: younger than me. And that's what it factually is. And
Speaker 1: you gotta know who you is, and you got to
Speaker 1: tell people who you are. Man, I got this money guy.
Speaker 1: As I'm up, are disappointed because I said, I gotta
Speaker 1: stop screaming at white people. Um, but I got this
Speaker 1: money guy that said, yo, you got eighty accounts open,
Speaker 1: which is what I said. It's the hit. It's a
Speaker 1: way to kill me. And he was just dismissive. He
Speaker 1: was like, man, I just saw what Trump did with
Speaker 1: this back, and you can you can do this. I said, Man,
Speaker 1: when I do it, we're gonna get up to Ellen
Speaker 1: and Bezos and are no territory. Uh. And he just
Speaker 1: says to me, very nonchalantly, I'm not gonna say it's
Speaker 1: gonna be all that. Three minutes later, in conversation he's
Speaker 1: talking to me about you got eighty accounts open, and
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. He said it at the beginning, you know,
Speaker 1: I said, I already heard that, and I started raising
Speaker 1: my voice. Then he checked me, like who you screaming at?
Speaker 1: Who you're screaming at? But it's like, boy, when you
Speaker 1: said and you just missed me, And when I try
Speaker 1: to stand up and you pushed my shoulder like that,
Speaker 1: that's a part of the programming in schools today. I've
Speaker 1: seen my son do his homework at Sierra Canyon that
Speaker 1: because I because because Daddy got his own school called Donda,
Speaker 1: named after my mom, the first black female English Chase,
Speaker 1: Chicago English Partment, Chicago State. So he's doing his homework
Speaker 1: and it's it's math, and it's got three eggs and
Speaker 1: two eggs and says three plus two equals what? And
Speaker 1: he says five. And the next one has three eggs
Speaker 1: plus two eggs and it says two plus one equals what?
Speaker 1: And he says five and the picture was wrong with
Speaker 1: the number. He starts getting frustrated. He starts crying he
Speaker 1: doesn't understand. And I was there, you know, thinking he
Speaker 1: was too young for me to explain this to here.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, this is getting you prepped to be
Speaker 1: pulled over for no reason and think it's okay. This
Speaker 1: is getting prepped for you to be the person that
Speaker 1: deserves a job, and someone else get the job. They
Speaker 1: hire Virgil over you, and you think it's okay, and
Speaker 1: you can't say nothing because you will sell out the
Speaker 1: black people if you say you gotta go get a hug.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They're getting you prep. It's
Speaker 1: prep school, right baby, it's prep preparation for your limitations.
Speaker 1: Were in these schools right now? Baby? Oh you thought
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna get killed by the NS interview. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna try my best worse, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it's a part the overall slaveship and the same
Speaker 1: mentality when I cut, when I cut my hair like this,
Speaker 1: you cut it yourself off, Barbara, did that? Let me
Speaker 1: tell you. I should have cut my hair myself because
Speaker 1: I was in Europe, so you can do that. No, No,
Speaker 1: tell me exactly. It's funny as you say that because
Speaker 1: I asked, he kept on like cutting it because he
Speaker 1: got a barber. If you ever cut a plug and
Speaker 1: somebody had, your barbershop might shut down. I cut here
Speaker 1: for a living back, you know, fourteen fifteen. Used to
Speaker 1: do that to buy clothes and also to buy music equipment.
Speaker 1: I got a story that we're gonna get into some
Speaker 1: real rap ship. We had to like, I had to
Speaker 1: just give you some you know, all the TMZ existence
Speaker 1: a thing at the beginning. So um uh damn, what
Speaker 1: was that training through? We're talking about the barber. If
Speaker 1: you cut, if you cut a plug and somebody hair,
Speaker 1: you could lose your job, you can. I remember I
Speaker 1: used to cut hair and I had like one day,
Speaker 1: I had like six clients and I had the most.
Speaker 1: Momm had, like honey, twenty, I don't know. And the
Speaker 1: next day these barber's day is real good town. They
Speaker 1: said your boy was on a mission. You know, yesterday
Speaker 1: I was feeling all proud of like yeah, well I
Speaker 1: was getting it in and then um he said, people
Speaker 1: was walking in like this and walking out like this.
Speaker 1: No because I was bad so so um yeah, so
Speaker 1: he cuts my hair and I'm going through this take
Speaker 1: an hour. I'm like, I'll take a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Here do this here, boat bab. And after this it
Speaker 1: took all the life out of this man, as a
Speaker 1: black barber, as a African American, as a blood of Christ,
Speaker 1: as a Hebrew, as a see I'm telling y'all what
Speaker 1: it is, right, so um, and he was so disappointed
Speaker 1: that he he didn't even charge me. He just walked away, like, Man,
Speaker 1: I did this to Kanye West or something that you
Speaker 1: asked for to Yeah, and then a few days later,
Speaker 1: I cut my hair. Now min y'all thought it was
Speaker 1: lit and only God the universe, the video game that
Speaker 1: my haircut posted on the But the fact that my
Speaker 1: hair cut and my name came at the same time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it had to be something because to do that. This
Speaker 1: is harder than wearing a Trump hat because every time
Speaker 1: it's my my image. You know, I'm I'm I'm flying.
Speaker 1: So it's just everything. It's like, you get your hair cut,
Speaker 1: it's Friday night, I'm finning go to the club, or
Speaker 1: I gotta go to a wedding, or I gotta go
Speaker 1: to a graduation, or I'm going to my job. As
Speaker 1: a man, as a black man, you're lining your hair
Speaker 1: cut means so much. So then I'm sitting in the
Speaker 1: mirror at the hotel and I grabbed and I remember
Speaker 1: oh stop. I have a barber skill set and an
Speaker 1: art skill set. And I started cutting because one of
Speaker 1: my home girls like, I think you need a lining
Speaker 1: because it just looks And I said, I ain't finning
Speaker 1: getting no I got not bill, I don't need no line.
Speaker 1: So so then I, um, I cut it a different way.
Speaker 1: And the name of my basketball team is the Doves,
Speaker 1: the Donda Doves, so I like, um, I started to
Speaker 1: cut it like a dove. So this is actually three
Speaker 1: doves cut in my hair. And what I like is
Speaker 1: one patch of grow back and it starts to make
Speaker 1: these layers. And I said, you know, I'm an artist,
Speaker 1: like a process artist, and I'd like to let people
Speaker 1: in on the process, like what we did with the rollout.
Speaker 1: So when you see the hair, it's like you see
Speaker 1: the process of the haircut. You also see the process.
Speaker 1: It's like a representation of my thoughts development because of
Speaker 1: how close it is to my you know, to my
Speaker 1: to my head. And then the whole thing is it
Speaker 1: it gotta look hot, you know at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, like it's it's it's girls that hit me,
Speaker 1: Like yo, I like that mask because when I when
Speaker 1: ye because when I wore a mask head old text
Speaker 1: and told us, don't tell make sure you don't walk
Speaker 1: in with that white mask. But I got, I got,
Speaker 1: I got the masks on the action that I was.
Speaker 1: I was actually about to start giving out haircut because
Speaker 1: apparently this is about to be a thing. Somebody, A
Speaker 1: lot of people. Don't wite your ship. Yeah, and my hair.
Speaker 1: My barber name is Edward Nigger Hands. I like him already.
Speaker 1: And I like the fact you holding a smoke champ.
Speaker 1: I like that you want to light up. You can
Speaker 1: be light up if you want to light up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can light it up. It's okay. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're thinking about thinking that. Come on, you're my Joe.
Speaker 1: Ro Let's go. You know, man, I'm not a real
Speaker 1: smoke You ain't gona embarrassing you gotta light I gotta
Speaker 1: be like. Yeah, somebody liked it, So let me ask
Speaker 1: this as this kind of a serious question, right, because um,
Speaker 1: I remember when eyes Um named his company ill Will, Right,
Speaker 1: And I believe that he had to change the name
Speaker 1: of his company because it's easy to say like fun
Speaker 1: ill Will, But ill Will is an actual person the
Speaker 1: world was his actual best friend. So was it ever
Speaker 1: a time when you said that about naming your album
Speaker 1: that because that's what somebody don't like this. This is
Speaker 1: album and somebody could say funk Donna. They're not saying
Speaker 1: fuck your mother, but they're saying funk the actual material.
Speaker 1: Did you ever feel any concern about that naming it
Speaker 1: after after her? Not at all. But I have seen
Speaker 1: them do these things when when everybody said they like
Speaker 1: donned the way better than uh CLB, they had this
Speaker 1: thing where they had these football players coming up saying
Speaker 1: what you like better CLB A Donda and then they
Speaker 1: was like CLB and then one of them was like,
Speaker 1: yeah fun. I was like, bro, that's my mama. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so no, but so so you didn't feel that way
Speaker 1: like it was a football player saying fun yeah, but
Speaker 1: he was saying the album. Okay. So moving on, Who
Speaker 1: was it that you said you wanted to work with
Speaker 1: the baby and you couldn't work with him? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like people in my camp was trying to protect
Speaker 1: me from working with debate. It's so funny. I baby
Speaker 1: a little baby. I forgot which one was. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's really hard for me getting contact with both of
Speaker 1: them in all actuality. I had to tweet to really
Speaker 1: red hat on at the time though, No, no, this
Speaker 1: is after I had a red time, but I still
Speaker 1: got a red hat on today. I'll let your back.
Speaker 1: I might not got it on. I'll let y'all know
Speaker 1: where I stayed. But that was one of that was
Speaker 1: one of the things. Your first listening session was in
Speaker 1: the Mercedes Don't in Atlanta. That was one of the
Speaker 1: standout things. For one, getting to hit you and Jay
Speaker 1: back together. Didn't hear Jay say that this might be
Speaker 1: the return of the throne, but he did say I
Speaker 1: put that red back to that red at all. That
Speaker 1: was funny, bro. I literally got on something like Michael
Speaker 1: from Goodfellas, like going crazy, Like it ain't like that.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me what happened. I had gigs to
Speaker 1: try to take my hat when I was it was
Speaker 1: like and then but I did get him though, because
Speaker 1: I heard that he was watching on the the third
Speaker 1: listen to session. Okay, so we start off with jail
Speaker 1: and song and then it's like he's not on it,
Speaker 1: the baby, baby, he's not on it. We wanted that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he had to be like but the baby versus
Speaker 1: hard Man. You know, it's another thing is so funny.
Speaker 1: I was sitting in the studio with I was sitting
Speaker 1: backstage and Soldier Field with Roddy Rich and the baby,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, god, and he got a
Speaker 1: new level of shoot is around right now. They're in
Speaker 1: another algorithm. It's the whole thing in the way the
Speaker 1: baby be around. He go into that beat and out
Speaker 1: of that beat, around that beat. Here give you the melody.
Speaker 1: That man was the number one streaming artist for a reason.
Speaker 1: This is like Terminator three. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I understand people like a slow flow here and then
Speaker 1: blah blah. But that's the thing. That's the moment when
Speaker 1: obviously like NAS made ether and that that's gonna be forever.
Speaker 1: You know, I may take over. No, no, I never
Speaker 1: knew that I may take over. No, I never knew that.
Speaker 1: And my girlfriend Sumiki Rainey from Chicago is the one
Speaker 1: that gave me the sample. She gave me a sample
Speaker 1: for the Truth, and she gave me a sample for takeover.
Speaker 1: She's like oz is one that kind of sounds like
Speaker 1: the truth. You might like it going on and uh
Speaker 1: taking over? Come on, don't don't don't, don't, don't, don't
Speaker 1: don't don't take you know, we have a game on
Speaker 1: our show, but what you finish? Yeah, I wouldn't just
Speaker 1: say it about It was something about related to take
Speaker 1: over all the algorithm? Is that your bitch? That was
Speaker 1: the moment when jay Z went like this and Nas
Speaker 1: is like this because Nas couldn't we call in Chicago
Speaker 1: we call it sniping. Nas is my favorite rapper. That
Speaker 1: many of times I said this is my favorite rapper,
Speaker 1: But the moment when it shifted was the when Nas
Speaker 1: couldn't wrap that style and jay Z could. And I
Speaker 1: think the moment that clarified what you mean. I'm sorry then,
Speaker 1: is that your bitch? And on this when on this
Speaker 1: like how we rap from Chicago, like how we called
Speaker 1: a sniper? How how bone thugs would you say double twisting? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we call it sniping? Right, So but Nas he couldn't
Speaker 1: hear on snipe, you know what? Something like that. And
Speaker 1: then the thing that I feel affected Jay was actually
Speaker 1: deaf of auto tune because auto tune didn't die right. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's like the most I think the most influential artists
Speaker 1: actually her to pass ten years is future, oh most important,
Speaker 1: most influential to our sound to day and then you
Speaker 1: you're throwing you know, chief Keith. No. No. And then
Speaker 1: also one thing is like with Soldier Boy is top
Speaker 1: five most influential. And I'm not gonna argue with you
Speaker 1: niggas about this at all, but Soldier Soldier Boy five
Speaker 1: as far as to what we are today, you know
Speaker 1: that's it's like take them on your album. You don't
Speaker 1: hear that verse? No, he said, Oh he was apparently
Speaker 1: man the verse. No. But I tell you what though,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though Soldier Boys, the future though,
Speaker 1: the future, the future is a couple of people. You know,
Speaker 1: I got some things, even when my style is like
Speaker 1: I never liked Touched the Sky and gold digget that
Speaker 1: style I only liked. Can't tell me nothing to say
Speaker 1: you will. And that's why I'm still here today because
Speaker 1: everything is moving around us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like my wife changed the the thought of the
Speaker 1: idea of beauty. You know what I'm saying. It was
Speaker 1: it was white girls in her school that used to
Speaker 1: talk down on her for having an ass and as
Speaker 1: white girls that go and get asked. You know, so, kid,
Speaker 1: tell me nothing my thoughts behind. I mean, I did,
Speaker 1: can't tell me him for jeez, and it was for him.
Speaker 1: And I got dj to to do the drums because
Speaker 1: I love what you know about that. Oh, let me
Speaker 1: tell you about when Atlanta took over WRAP. It was
Speaker 1: bone crusher. Was the moment it chat as that's when
Speaker 1: Atlanta took over. Yes, that was because Also, you gotta understand,
Speaker 1: I'm like Kobe Lebron or Michael Jordan's or Phil Jackson
Speaker 1: of WRAP. I study, I understand the game. Also, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not only a client. I'm gonna player president. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm on only play on my coach. But when
Speaker 1: you say take over from the perspective of what because
Speaker 1: Goody mob and and and casting, what they were doing
Speaker 1: was was changing. It wasn't. It wasn't now I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say that, Uh, goodie mom outcast. It wasn't as
Speaker 1: street as t I. It didn't have all the bitches
Speaker 1: like t I father God excuse me for saying bitches.
Speaker 1: But the orphanage that I'm creating called Donda, and ain't
Speaker 1: that to my mom because my mom saved my life.
Speaker 1: My mom was like, I'm keeping Kanye. Um. This orphanage
Speaker 1: is gonna provide first of all the way, God is
Speaker 1: we already got what what do we call them? Bed nurses? Um?
Speaker 1: All right, So this is like when you go and
Speaker 1: get your ultra sound, they tell you if your baby's
Speaker 1: gonna come out okay. In hospitals today, they would tell
Speaker 1: a black mother that the baby is not going to
Speaker 1: come out today because we are inside us as twelve
Speaker 1: tribes of Judah, as a member of the Hebrew people,
Speaker 1: we are still inside of our genocide. Of all Black
Speaker 1: deaths a year is abortion and death black deaths a
Speaker 1: year is abortion. And Plan B was created by Margaret
Speaker 1: Singer with the KKK for Black Population Control. Uh, getting
Speaker 1: deep right now? Yeah, this is what I cried about
Speaker 1: during the election, that those tears is gonna be gospel someday.
Speaker 1: And what am I doing? I know the guy from
Speaker 1: Texas got a lot of backlash for changing the lass.
Speaker 1: I'm not in a position. That's not what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: What I'm doing is providing a plan, a opportunity where
Speaker 1: you can bring your children if you feel like you
Speaker 1: can't take care of them, you ain't got a place
Speaker 1: to take them, you know how to support system. We
Speaker 1: got a place that's gonna have I'm like you thought
Speaker 1: that I wasn't gonna try to get killed. In this interview,
Speaker 1: Dr Seby's diet based off Dr Sebby's diet, saving not
Speaker 1: only Black children but all God's children given the opportunity
Speaker 1: of a utopia. Because the reason why we ain't get
Speaker 1: our forty acres and the mules, we have forty acres,
Speaker 1: we have more people. We have more people, and we
Speaker 1: have leadership with the leaders not strategically taken out of
Speaker 1: the community in the eighties and the drugs and guns
Speaker 1: put into it, and then the algorithm. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, The eight O eight, The eight O exists
Speaker 1: in the lowest chakra of your body. The majority of
Speaker 1: content that's related to the eight away is kill look
Speaker 1: or sexual content. The original Eightaways was even off pitch,
Speaker 1: so that man, it's an actual sound in the track
Speaker 1: that you don't realize it is there that is sucking
Speaker 1: up your entire frequency. And now today every time I
Speaker 1: hear a car come out, it's either way. But if
Speaker 1: you think about African music and hip hop and when
Speaker 1: he's breaking to break, that's too. It was light, it
Speaker 1: was upbeating, it was the drums. Now it's like and
Speaker 1: all of this is a bigger and it's like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, at this point, it's like they should have
Speaker 1: killed me when I said, George Bush don't care about
Speaker 1: black people. I ain't got nothing to say. You know,
Speaker 1: they snl making my wife say I divorced them on
Speaker 1: TV because they just wanted to get that bar off
Speaker 1: and I ain't never even seen the papers. We don't
Speaker 1: even divorced. So how we because they ain't no joke
Speaker 1: to me. My kids want their parents to stay together.
Speaker 1: I want the pair. I want us to be together.
Speaker 1: But if you want me together to if you look
Speaker 1: at the media, that's not what they're promoting. That's not
Speaker 1: what they want. They wanted to be a new way
Speaker 1: in the new episode, a new TV show, and then
Speaker 1: they had people all around and my wife here. You
Speaker 1: don't saying it's a publicist. That's next to it. I
Speaker 1: don't funk with her. That was as clear as you
Speaker 1: can say. Are you thought I wouldn't gonna try to
Speaker 1: get killed this her? So this is a game people old,
Speaker 1: I guess we don't go. We don't come to music. Now,
Speaker 1: let's get into some games. It's called quick time with
Speaker 1: slob right. I do not want over my house, and
Speaker 1: I don't sunk with some of them nannies either. Alright,
Speaker 1: what's the game? Okay, let's called quick time of slum.
Speaker 1: You can pick one or the other. You either pick
Speaker 1: one or the other. You pick one and all you pick,
Speaker 1: you pick both, you get. You take a shot, but
Speaker 1: neither or both? Okay, TUPAC or DMX Oh they same
Speaker 1: and they off here right now, both on your shirt.
Speaker 1: So you're taking a shot, I said, But I said
Speaker 1: the same. I said, they're the same. They're both here
Speaker 1: right now. We're doing the shot. This you can do.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I get that. Why I gotta
Speaker 1: have a luxury that celebrity version shot. It's gonna be shot. Okay,
Speaker 1: you want to shot? He wants a shot? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I don't you know. Okay, so this this one, I
Speaker 1: don't know where you're gonna go with this one? Common
Speaker 1: or Toddlert Oh definitely comment, are you man? Oh no, no,
Speaker 1: it ain't shot. It ain't shot. Town comment. It's a
Speaker 1: thousand times better rapping than quietly. What's your turning? No,
Speaker 1: I gotta disagree with you. Take a shot, just gota.
Speaker 1: You can take a shot of it. Now you don't
Speaker 1: ask me my opinion. Okay, opinion, that's true, Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: My opinion is like everybody knows that Common is a thousand.
Speaker 1: The only thing I don't like about Common is he
Speaker 1: like worked for the Democrats to be and all kind
Speaker 1: of like whatever they're telling the dude, it's a light
Speaker 1: skinnigg be doing les different, just a little harder, but
Speaker 1: also quality. Be getting up and like come back home
Speaker 1: homewear nigga. You know what I'm saying, When I wear it,
Speaker 1: when I got a difference opinion of Trump had it's
Speaker 1: like Nigga City. You you single handedly kept baseball caps
Speaker 1: in business. You're the last nigga with this type of
Speaker 1: hat on trying to tell me where to where to
Speaker 1: come home to? You know what I'm saying that just
Speaker 1: turn up. And then when he was on here, he
Speaker 1: didn't tell you the story about when me and A
Speaker 1: T eight Keys picked him up from his house, drove
Speaker 1: to Marina del Rey and had um breakfast together and
Speaker 1: vibed out. He didn't tell you that. I feel that
Speaker 1: the Black Star album is the hardest album since Dark Fantasy.
Speaker 1: This is the best album since Dark Fantasy. Up there
Speaker 1: talking about you know it's an agendas all control. Man.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, crabs and the barrel. Jay Z
Speaker 1: got this my favorite line, say but why were crabs?
Speaker 1: Crabs shouldn't be in the barrel. So how are you
Speaker 1: gonna tell me how crabs are active? They are the barrel.
Speaker 1: Of course they put there in the barrel. What you're
Speaker 1: talking about? But yeah, man, it's like that's my issue.
Speaker 1: Man and man and all these like back in Oh
Speaker 1: yeah you know, uh yeah, you know he's he's a billionaire,
Speaker 1: but king being a billion and you'll be more billionais
Speaker 1: and he doing he heatn't thin there. But he not
Speaker 1: like Dave Chappelle. He not like down with the people.
Speaker 1: He not that man. You can't tell me when I'm
Speaker 1: going through in my life and whether I'm with the
Speaker 1: people and adjustment of how I should be like you.
Speaker 1: If i'd be like you quality, I'll be where you're
Speaker 1: at now. If you take the average, ninety nine percent
Speaker 1: of people say do you want to be quality or
Speaker 1: do you wanna be y? More people don't wanna be
Speaker 1: y quality. So like you told that, man, don't give
Speaker 1: me no advice. Go open up a book, eat yourself
Speaker 1: to death. Man, you know what I'm saying. That's another
Speaker 1: thing people be so like people would be so you know,
Speaker 1: oh I'm well read, I'm well read. I can't read
Speaker 1: that well, bro, I can't. I can't count that way.
Speaker 1: That's not my that's not our skill set. But tribally,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: a real word. I'm sure it's that quality of so tribally,
Speaker 1: you know, if we if we was back, you know
Speaker 1: in African times. You gotta understand, Shakespeare created thirty percent
Speaker 1: of our language. We speak in The language is not
Speaker 1: our own. We speak the drums. That's why it's so hard.
Speaker 1: That's why it's so hard for it to be a
Speaker 1: black billionaire. And it's so hard to get a post
Speaker 1: malan you know what I mean, like a white black
Speaker 1: dude or something that you got. It's so it's very
Speaker 1: feeling far between and somebody can figure out because the
Speaker 1: game and society in America has been made for us
Speaker 1: to not figure it out. So all these books. When
Speaker 1: we go to college and we discriminate again against each
Speaker 1: other because we got this degree, that ain't gonna add
Speaker 1: up to ship to us getting a job for another
Speaker 1: white person, and I gotta say that, you know why,
Speaker 1: because I was separated from my dad and I've just
Speaker 1: now understand what happened. My mom was an actress, but
Speaker 1: she also had a b plan of being an English
Speaker 1: professor um and she went for a gig and she
Speaker 1: didn't get it and she went to be a professor.
Speaker 1: Now her and my dad had separated, but they but
Speaker 1: I was still in town. She got a job offer
Speaker 1: in Chicago from this white organization, Chicago State University, and
Speaker 1: it separated me from my best friend. So I had
Speaker 1: to grow up around people who didn't understand me, who
Speaker 1: didn't love me. People were looking at me as an
Speaker 1: opportunity since I was fourteen, because I was a prodigy.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been had industry friends, so to shame. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go here and we're gonna get some beats
Speaker 1: out this nigga. We're gonna get this this type of
Speaker 1: because my mom, uh separated me for the opportunity of
Speaker 1: more money. Society is set set up to have people
Speaker 1: go away to college, go away here, and in between
Speaker 1: your dorm room and your college, or in between your
Speaker 1: hometown and where you got to go to school. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of liquor stores. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a bunch of strip clubs, it's gonna be a bunch
Speaker 1: of malls, it's gonna be a bunch of things that
Speaker 1: people we do that when we don't have that love
Speaker 1: like a kibbutts, we need Christian kibbutts. We can have
Speaker 1: communities be as close kibbutts like Jewish people have this
Speaker 1: type of circular community community center. No, it's like where
Speaker 1: they live and where we need to live, where the
Speaker 1: grandparents can take care of the kids. It's better to
Speaker 1: have a grandparent taking care of the kids in the
Speaker 1: nanny taking kids hired. Love you get. I'm saying that
Speaker 1: we move as a community, and as a community, we
Speaker 1: will not fail. There's communities that didn't go into slavery,
Speaker 1: like I think it's a massonic. I don't want to
Speaker 1: go to let me do a shot. You have to do.
Speaker 1: And I said all that to say that we got
Speaker 1: our opinion with quality. I love quality. I never really
Speaker 1: liked the way he rapped um trying to get away.
Speaker 1: You want to go. We can never mentioned comment and
Speaker 1: quality in the same breath. Keep it going, okay, ship
Speaker 1: Ship all right, hurry man, Oh I love this. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you this quick about this. Craig already decided
Speaker 1: that when I die on my tombstone, it's gonna say
Speaker 1: I deserve to be here because I signed Big Sean.
Speaker 1: So I'm not quite sure you're pick Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: quite Big Big Sean. No, I'm saying that the first
Speaker 1: thing I've ever done was signed Big Sean. That's that's
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Oh, that's a beautiful thing. Wait wait,
Speaker 1: wait worst the best you're playing on? I think you
Speaker 1: said the best. Okay, hold on, no, man, look they
Speaker 1: let that man. I know this man, mama, bro. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I've changed his man family, and
Speaker 1: both John Legend and Big Sean when I ran for office,
Speaker 1: got used quick body democrats to come at their boy.
Speaker 1: That actually changed their life. And that's some sellout ship.
Speaker 1: And I don't rock with neither of them, and they
Speaker 1: and I need, I need my apologies. I ain't saying
Speaker 1: they gonna change niggas. It's scared. I feel you. They
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Anybody got a hundred of talents,
Speaker 1: They got him under pressure and still got signed to
Speaker 1: your contract. He's still on man good when we signed
Speaker 1: were just we're just working for the white labels. We
Speaker 1: ain't signing nobody. This ain't independent. He's he's the only
Speaker 1: one owned independent, you know, black owned or whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't know to be owned after this after interfew. But
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, like when we signed that,
Speaker 1: we don't sign somebody. We're signing someone to the bigger
Speaker 1: Vivendi slave ship, to the bigger Universal slaveship. Y'all saying
Speaker 1: all all these tweets was crazy. You know why Press
Speaker 1: gave me the song jail because he liked what I did.
Speaker 1: And he's like, I like what you did from the contracts. Man,
Speaker 1: he definitely gets who going to jail or not? You
Speaker 1: know what, because he was on that tip. Yeah. Just
Speaker 1: do people don't know you took about prints? Prints? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking they had some outprints trying to get away
Speaker 1: from corporations, connect with the slave on it. Okay, we
Speaker 1: gotta get through quick, go ahead, go ahead. That it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be quick, man, But I like, I like,
Speaker 1: if you want, if you want your flowers, just like
Speaker 1: man if he took Kobe Bryant, Michael Jackson, Prince the
Speaker 1: existence of Kanye West. Oh he's so crazy. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: well if I'm crazy and it's up, then it's up.
Speaker 1: Then it's up. Then let me move on the next question.
Speaker 1: Um biggie a big punt? Whoa biggie for me? But
Speaker 1: equal level, they equal genius system. Okay, Um, I gotta
Speaker 1: take a shot. Here We're done. No, no, no, no
Speaker 1: he ain't like he said, but now he said, here's weirds.
Speaker 1: Get creeky. This is just on the CEO level. This
Speaker 1: is not artists. This is not just just see one second.
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, you're good with John and Sean Sean
Speaker 1: John puff is my go and Twin go and twin
Speaker 1: you so Um but uh, which Sean and John? You know,
Speaker 1: push your voted Democrat voter for Kamalo ain't seeing that
Speaker 1: since the election either and the seen hopeful they got
Speaker 1: nine percent of the black female vote. You would have
Speaker 1: thought Drake was running straight push. It didn't come out
Speaker 1: and outright dissed me to the public. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because at the end of day, he know,
Speaker 1: he like, man, I'm not gonna do that. Like I
Speaker 1: didn't dis Virgil when he took the Louis. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. These people came out and then John
Speaker 1: Lessend he sounds so white. He was like the rapper,
Speaker 1: the rapper. It's just like, man, it's like, where is
Speaker 1: God in this conversation? And what I'm saying, where who
Speaker 1: do you work for? Because if you don't work for
Speaker 1: God and you're working for the devil, so who are
Speaker 1: you working for? At this point, I'm a man of God.
Speaker 1: God got me covered, and as long as I'm alive,
Speaker 1: God's not finished. God, damn it. All right, let's make
Speaker 1: some Look, this is just on okay, okay, okay, get okay,
Speaker 1: this is just on the CEO level. Jay or damn
Speaker 1: just see you all, absolutely thousand percent. Dame Dash because
Speaker 1: Dame because Dame Dash the visionary, the original black hipster.
Speaker 1: I'm the Devil's first night man. I'm damned Dash with money.
Speaker 1: I don't want to take that woman. But and I'm
Speaker 1: also j and Dame combined. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm still here. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Dame had has division to see it. And this man,
Speaker 1: I remember, um what's his name? With Steve Rifkin the
Speaker 1: song Yeah, he said, so he said, he said, Oh,
Speaker 1: Dame is in Ya's pocket. White white boy, don't never
Speaker 1: speak on me and uh and Dame don't never speak
Speaker 1: on our situation of me taking care of the man
Speaker 1: to put me on beautiful, beautiful ship. You're like, you
Speaker 1: know what sayingcause that's what all you think. I'm a man,
Speaker 1: not everybody that now ere gonna make the money. You
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, if you got a community, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have people who can figure out how to earn. I said.
Speaker 1: I said, I was one of Jay's, the Jay's best
Speaker 1: earner anytime he needed that beat boom. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So Dave never had to work again, period.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Anything ever need, I'm I'm here.
Speaker 1: The more and more money I got, this is my family.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna let nobody speak on our relationship Bees
Speaker 1: or the game. M hmm. No Beanie because even though
Speaker 1: I talked about she went with Beanie. Yeah, because of
Speaker 1: you know, I always envy. You know, I was jealous
Speaker 1: of like Bust the rhymes, how perfect he wrapped. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's like Bust. The verses would
Speaker 1: battle bust In the verses, Uh, man, I battle anybody. Man,
Speaker 1: that's I'm gonna say, like, that's it bottle to anybody.
Speaker 1: I don't care you, Okay. So Beanie, just because I'm
Speaker 1: like I'm in that, I'm in that like sophisticated kind
Speaker 1: of like if I hooped, I would hoop like d
Speaker 1: Rods A Curry or Kobe or something like. I'm real,
Speaker 1: like slick, like you just look at my color palette
Speaker 1: and my whole I'm like on some like puff Daddy,
Speaker 1: you know, like real and Beanie. You know all the
Speaker 1: Rockefeller rappers really had. You know, Freeway was like the
Speaker 1: closest to like an O. D B. But I used
Speaker 1: to say when I wanted to rap, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I cut one of my fingers off to have Buster
Speaker 1: Rhyme's voice and and his his skill set, and when
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a rapper back in Chicago. So
Speaker 1: Beanie is that man who, like we were just listening
Speaker 1: at what you do is wrong, wrong the way he
Speaker 1: was on it. And by the way, here's another thing.
Speaker 1: I oh, I still owe Beanie money, and I've been
Speaker 1: trying to give him this money for a minute. He's
Speaker 1: gonna get the money's gonna get the money. I remember, yeah,
Speaker 1: because really, how do you old? I don't know. Because
Speaker 1: he made up the name easy. He used to call
Speaker 1: on me easy. Thing that this is you can speak,
Speaker 1: So he made up the name easy. He used to
Speaker 1: call me easy. This is the thing. People who took
Speaker 1: a liking to me in volatile situations would always give
Speaker 1: me a nickname. So it seemed like I was like cool,
Speaker 1: Like so my boy Molly that used to sell guns.
Speaker 1: He he he called me k Rock you know when
Speaker 1: when I would be like on seventy nine for this
Speaker 1: and stuff like you know, so that's like that was
Speaker 1: being his name for me when I was in baseline,
Speaker 1: like on something that's cheesy, like making one of us.
Speaker 1: He let me wear a state property chain like he
Speaker 1: really just embraced me because it was like your little
Speaker 1: little stuck that was real. That's some real ship right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, okay, and I've been trying to
Speaker 1: give it. I was like, man, this man made up.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the lady who made the Nike
Speaker 1: swoops Phil Knight went back and made sure she was straight,
Speaker 1: or the lady that made the fidget. It's better. I
Speaker 1: don't know if she's straight yet, but that made the
Speaker 1: throng because he needed to be. When this cisco a
Speaker 1: you ready kiss so fat? He took a shower, took
Speaker 1: a shot. I'm the thing is, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to say kiss um, you know, because what I
Speaker 1: want to cut my finger off for that voice, that
Speaker 1: voice and then man, he's still. It's so funny. Man.
Speaker 1: It's just like people when I was come like back
Speaker 1: in like earlier my career, rappers used to like stop rapping,
Speaker 1: and now it's like niggas just really have something to
Speaker 1: say and have a great perspective. Like when I work
Speaker 1: with architects. The architect I work with that designing the
Speaker 1: Donna Orphan edge and various things. This architect is eighty
Speaker 1: years always just turned eighty in September. Look at like
Speaker 1: push your t like look at me. I'm actually forty
Speaker 1: four years old, and I'm competing at the highest level.
Speaker 1: At forty four is like Lebron or like seven Ring Brady,
Speaker 1: you know, competing at that level. And that's how Jada
Speaker 1: that Jada's and obviously five both of them get bars.
Speaker 1: And I just always loved Also another thing it's like
Speaker 1: they was in the game before me. So me and
Speaker 1: Mina used to ride around Chicago. Yeah, John Monopoly, we
Speaker 1: should just ride around and marvel at you know, the
Speaker 1: new Swiss beats with them on and Just and then
Speaker 1: Mace Murder and d M Max And this is like
Speaker 1: our man like me, and I'm always look at people
Speaker 1: that way, you know, the way that I always see
Speaker 1: him as God's as. So this one should be easy
Speaker 1: for you. Nas or Jail Electronica was Nas because that's
Speaker 1: who um because because Nas my favorite rapper. Because it's Nas.
Speaker 1: What do you mean it's not Nas, It's not he's
Speaker 1: like ordained in our video game to be the best
Speaker 1: rapper and considered to be the best. Yeah, it's Nas.
Speaker 1: His name is synonymous with greatest. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: At the end of the one time I according with
Speaker 1: um fans on I didn't like it. I played basketball
Speaker 1: against him, and that's what I knew hip hop was dead.
Speaker 1: You know, he can't Oh he can't bohip. I'm sorry, Nas,
Speaker 1: but I do not of them wins. He friends me
Speaker 1: that in the win, so he thought he was good,
Speaker 1: but I let him know not not that y'all. Y'all
Speaker 1: got okay for Round or Timberland beat wise only I'm
Speaker 1: a road with Timberland because um, the sample style and
Speaker 1: the fact that he when he came through Virginia and
Speaker 1: Virginia is a very for us from Virginia as well.
Speaker 1: Just in case you don't know. They definitely and that
Speaker 1: was the shot shot question for a second, because definitely
Speaker 1: gonna call you about that. Yeah, take a shower. Our
Speaker 1: show was about giving people they flower. We really want
Speaker 1: to give your flowers. We want to give you a praise.
Speaker 1: You're really one of the most inspirational people in hip hop.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anybody like when Geezers dropped on the
Speaker 1: sneakers drop. I see people outside the doors and it
Speaker 1: make me be so proud that I could call you
Speaker 1: a friend, I could call you ap proachon that I
Speaker 1: communicate with. And I'm really really proud of you, and
Speaker 1: and we fucking love you all this motherfucker's you gotta
Speaker 1: take the shot you don't care to, let's do. So
Speaker 1: we're moving on, moving to Holy Moti Waka more. This
Speaker 1: is good. I gotta give at least one short explanation
Speaker 1: about Timberland. The reason why I say Timberland's Virginia. That's no,
Speaker 1: it's that it's that kind of Fred Hampton, Um DeVante Joe.
Speaker 1: To see that chord, that church thing, that Detroit deep
Speaker 1: past Chicago deep houst those church courts, that's it. Timberland
Speaker 1: was one of the The main thing that we do
Speaker 1: at Sunday Service is that we want to do Fred Hammond.
Speaker 1: We want to get Yeah. That's so even when I
Speaker 1: did this album and Manuel or Christis Town our notes,
Speaker 1: you would think it's like some Catholic choir, but the
Speaker 1: notes have the updated operating system and has those type
Speaker 1: of those type of chord progressions. Now might like prell,
Speaker 1: prell get them the chords though, because you know why,
Speaker 1: I feel like Pharrell is actually you, Pharrell is actually
Speaker 1: lost members of Native Time. Did I have to get
Speaker 1: that accurate? Because like you guys, we're tough guys to
Speaker 1: quote unquote, but you guys were hip hop? Is that accurate? All?
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a little happy, got me? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right? MPC three thousand or MPC two thousand XL Yeah,
Speaker 1: the two. I used the two thousand, so I gotta
Speaker 1: go with the two thousand. I don't know I don't
Speaker 1: use it. Yeah, I see to use that. Use the
Speaker 1: A s R in the two thousand, Yeah, okay, analog
Speaker 1: or digital? I just say analog right off back, I
Speaker 1: like shoot stuff in sixteen let me do. But we
Speaker 1: use protoos. Okay, so fat Joe or ja rule fat
Speaker 1: Joe because I grew up and he had gotta flow Joe. Okay,
Speaker 1: puff Daddy or Dr Dre Well puff Daddy because we twins.
Speaker 1: I like that. That's it's enough good man. Also he
Speaker 1: got that, you know what I mean, It's just like
Speaker 1: that's everything here everything I said, that's like what consequence
Speaker 1: is like, that's that. That's that bob like that, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like puffs bop. That's close to to like
Speaker 1: Dre's got his Bob is like the West Coast Bob.
Speaker 1: But I really was like trying to put the shakers
Speaker 1: and you know, trying to be all the hit man
Speaker 1: in one. So Swiss beat so just blaze well Swiss
Speaker 1: Beach definitely, because Jess Blazes is a copycat. You know,
Speaker 1: he gets credit for the blueprint and I did the
Speaker 1: first half of the blueprint and he just copied my
Speaker 1: half and got I mean, look, look where I'm not
Speaker 1: today and look where he had today. So that's that's
Speaker 1: just show. You know, what do you mean? I'll be
Speaker 1: here and then it'd be all over the radio. I
Speaker 1: have my girl friends. Chicago will be a hot night.
Speaker 1: He seven, it's up listening to the radio. Wud be
Speaker 1: another J Blade song, another just PLAYE song? Now, I
Speaker 1: like I like the originators, man, I don't mind, like
Speaker 1: you know the copycat too. And by the way, you
Speaker 1: just gotta say it like it is. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I said, if somebody copy me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you copy me? You know, I'll tell try like yo,
Speaker 1: you copy me, boy, And it's like but but I'm up.
Speaker 1: I love you. But just know what it is. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We ain't gotta be no but
Speaker 1: hey man, that's our community, man. We can like we
Speaker 1: just be this this other thing. When I had the record,
Speaker 1: wh I'm saying Virgil and Drake. Just because I say
Speaker 1: somebody name, don't mean it's a beef record. This is
Speaker 1: not beef. I ain't saying nothing. I just said I
Speaker 1: put these two men on the same text. I said,
Speaker 1: stop it with the funny mess like, don't man, we
Speaker 1: ain't operate. Yeah, put the two on the same text
Speaker 1: with the funny mass. That's what's the ball. Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I'm naming. I'm saying names because
Speaker 1: I don't like subliminals. I don't like sub sub sub
Speaker 1: or sub bate, you know, eight o ways. I don't
Speaker 1: like nothing. I can't see. It's like, just be straightforward,
Speaker 1: you know whatever it is. I honor that, you know,
Speaker 1: I respect that. You know what I'm saying. I gotta hey,
Speaker 1: this how I feel. This is how you feel, and
Speaker 1: let's talk on that way. Let's not talk through no managers,
Speaker 1: let's not talk to no assistance, no bodyguards, no, no nobody.
Speaker 1: Using you were talking to I was like he said,
Speaker 1: formerly normal, Yeah, he's in formally car that's him. That's
Speaker 1: hit body cool, Okay, bus stop missy. They both fill
Speaker 1: Virginia now paying just playing. But I look at them
Speaker 1: as different genres though. But you're talking about like if
Speaker 1: it's videos, artists, yeah, or whatever in your mind, whatever
Speaker 1: your behind criteria, you create that same. Actually they're same.
Speaker 1: Take a shot that. God damn, come on, baby, we're outside.
Speaker 1: Were you come back? We might come back. I don't
Speaker 1: got my own school as I've been doing this, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Look what is that you're drinking? Mama?
Speaker 1: Please please don't confuse your cup with that ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You know I love you, Mama, wanna not
Speaker 1: so much? Okay yo, this is let me tell you.
Speaker 1: I want to make clear why I have a major problem.
Speaker 1: It's a publicist because she promotes fear. And if my
Speaker 1: wife can be scared, who the main person she's gonna
Speaker 1: be scared of? And then after that, who my kid's
Speaker 1: gonna be scared of? If you promote the idea of
Speaker 1: fear and reading every single comment and being her ear
Speaker 1: all the time, giving these mid level suggestions. Not one
Speaker 1: suggestion I will ever take from this person, but all
Speaker 1: the suggestions I gave my wife. Now she on the
Speaker 1: cover of Vogue, Now she a multi billionaire, but now
Speaker 1: my relationship is And then whenever it's something about our
Speaker 1: press or what the kid's names is he part of
Speaker 1: putting information out. But then she overed my house and
Speaker 1: I told her on the phone a week ago, I said,
Speaker 1: I'm being nice. Yeah, I want to keep playing with me.
Speaker 1: If it's up, then it's up. Because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. I gotta protect my children at all costs.
Speaker 1: And if they're using their version, I'm using my version
Speaker 1: because guess what I could get Noory number and what's
Speaker 1: my and what's my daughter name? Noor By the life
Speaker 1: one of my best compliments I've ever had in my
Speaker 1: whole life. He was going to UH to see you perform,
Speaker 1: to watch your perform. This is the first time I
Speaker 1: think you did the circle. When he was in the
Speaker 1: circle and you grabbed your wife. I was with my wife.
Speaker 1: You grabbed your wife and you grabbed it. You pulled
Speaker 1: it over to me and eat cameras was right in
Speaker 1: my face. I turned red even know I'm brown, turned red,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I have to want to say hi
Speaker 1: to you. And you said this is who we named
Speaker 1: our daughter after. And that's just the biggest compliment I've
Speaker 1: ever got. Two of the biggest compliments I love is
Speaker 1: when you did that and court Mega said you're learning
Speaker 1: on the job and you win it. And I don't
Speaker 1: know how to think. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: who I get a free Viga song Hold on the more,
Speaker 1: let's because this is drink so great. Okay, outcast with
Speaker 1: U G k yeah, outcast for me, Okay, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Scar Face, ice Cube. I just talked to scar Face yesterday.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. And then you know how I'll be
Speaker 1: hanging with Cube for me so shock. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: see who influenced me more. I like Cube better personally,
Speaker 1: for like, if I play is listening that, but Scarface
Speaker 1: is more influential to me as a rapper and to
Speaker 1: everyone is a rapper. He's another important part because when
Speaker 1: scar Face switches style, when he started turning his words
Speaker 1: like around like Mary Mary Man, I got to love
Speaker 1: forming in my life and indeed another former life j
Speaker 1: ad that Scarf slow just flow. I'm talking about people
Speaker 1: who added to the flow. You know. I'm saying it's
Speaker 1: not a specific thing where people could even wrapped like
Speaker 1: ice Cube, because ice Cube, until he like really did
Speaker 1: the a and like added a style to his style
Speaker 1: was kind of similar to mine, where it's like it
Speaker 1: was sort of you couldn't pimpoint it, you couldn't imitate it.
Speaker 1: You couldn't It was just like Cube. Me and Cube
Speaker 1: is both geminized. You're both saying the same thing. Both
Speaker 1: from Virginia geminism. Wife's of Gemini take the specifically Geminis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Gemini's got the most goats and wrap though. So basically
Speaker 1: you're saying, I'm saying taste like my you know music
Speaker 1: is I love both of them, Bob say Cube, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying Scarface it's more influential as the rap because
Speaker 1: he added, like you gotta look at wrap like it's
Speaker 1: the NBA and there's certain people remember Kobe us to
Speaker 1: shoot up like this, so like AI, you know, people
Speaker 1: have added things to the overall game. You know, the
Speaker 1: half of the NBA is like number twenty three, it's
Speaker 1: you know, people, and Scarface added something to it that
Speaker 1: people don't pinpoint enough. And that's specifically when he did that.
Speaker 1: I would like to get into the science to wrapping,
Speaker 1: the science and music we can. We're gonna get um
Speaker 1: Travis Scott or kid Cutty kid Cutty because Travis is
Speaker 1: a mix of me cutting and Rocky Jesus. Okay, Little
Speaker 1: Baby or the baby Man. While I was saying, it's
Speaker 1: like no, because they both are equally adding something new
Speaker 1: to wrap itself, like it's mad people that wrapped, like
Speaker 1: people just wrapped like little Baby, like listen to so
Speaker 1: many people just wrap like little you could pick wolf
Speaker 1: wolf pick, ok you can pick take a shot if
Speaker 1: a big bolt you sound like you said both. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with a little Baby because I did say
Speaker 1: little baby is my favorite. Because the thing is not
Speaker 1: just hear his wraps, you know, he was on it
Speaker 1: was a concert plan and it just it just put
Speaker 1: me into a mode. It's like he hits something and
Speaker 1: you know that's what like wrapping got it And that's
Speaker 1: the thing. If nig is that's what like rappers, I
Speaker 1: feel like lose that ability to really put people in
Speaker 1: that mode where they want to like do better at business, workout,
Speaker 1: create whatever they want to do. It's like if you
Speaker 1: lose your because it ain't nothing. It's it's nothing. I
Speaker 1: said in his interview, that's not what I would say
Speaker 1: in this interview. Yeah not yeah, not that I wouldn't feel.
Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting that it comes off as
Speaker 1: shocking in anyway because I'm not really saying nothing shocking.
Speaker 1: It's just like you know, you know, John Legend gonna
Speaker 1: always show up and just do whatever the folks tell
Speaker 1: them to do. Man, you know, it's that's not a
Speaker 1: shocking thing, man. Okay, Tang w a um, definitely Wu tang.
Speaker 1: Would you have me stumped if you said Wu tang
Speaker 1: on myb D We'll take them d L. They're both
Speaker 1: from Virginia. All Right, I'm gonna this one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go or ghost see shan Well ghosts because I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit more on a spectrum. I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: more on the craziest side of things. So I have
Speaker 1: a tendency to have been emotional in the past and
Speaker 1: to do things in an emotional way. And the funny
Speaker 1: thing is people say out to interview that, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you made it harder for yourself. I said, now, I
Speaker 1: made it easier for myself. Don't text me, don't. I
Speaker 1: don't want the cap like period. I don't like caps.
Speaker 1: I made it. I want to simplify my my amount
Speaker 1: of friends. You know, my people that I go over
Speaker 1: the crib or to they spot and stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead them, Okay. I wasn't ready for none of
Speaker 1: this phone flex kick apri oh snap DJ yeah, funk
Speaker 1: flex because it was a part of you know, have
Speaker 1: people have hoop dreams, you have rap dreams, funk flex
Speaker 1: voice or he played, I still be like we got it.
Speaker 1: We played Oldis there is no Oldest without funk Flex.
Speaker 1: There's no There's no Fabby on the album without funk Flex.
Speaker 1: I heard him do the freestyle on funks Flex and
Speaker 1: got him a jet Yeah yeah to Atlanta that Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I wanted to be flu out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's funny because Chris Rocker we had the song.
Speaker 1: Me and j had the song Ham, and I was
Speaker 1: very into that tempo, the sixty or one, that tempo
Speaker 1: that Nigga's apparents eventually end up being and put people
Speaker 1: did not like. I remember Boot called me like, is
Speaker 1: that show? He texted, that's your first single? No? Ham?
Speaker 1: Was it Ham? Now? Mind you? Ham was the first
Speaker 1: time we ever saw the Givancy Dogs because we had
Speaker 1: givanci Ricardo Ticia had designer that did the gold cover
Speaker 1: that was doing all the rock Wilders did that cover.
Speaker 1: The first time you ever actually saw the dog was
Speaker 1: on Me and jay z first single Ham. So we
Speaker 1: I remember uh Lebron was losing in the championship um
Speaker 1: and it actually said Who's watching the Throne? And I
Speaker 1: took a track off of what was gonna be my
Speaker 1: album follow up, The Dark Fantasy that I had heard
Speaker 1: when we all was at dinner and it was the
Speaker 1: oldest sample and I chopped it up and I was
Speaker 1: gonna go to Milan to do something in fashion, and
Speaker 1: I was about to be late for the flight and
Speaker 1: I had to Doncy snap back on in the tank
Speaker 1: top and the mercer just chopping up Otis because I
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, we're not gonna lose this game. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna lose this game. No matter what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you all this. We're gonna I took a New
Speaker 1: Day off on my next album and took Otis on
Speaker 1: my next album. And we got into this big argument
Speaker 1: because he had this song called Holy Grail that he
Speaker 1: had justin Timberlake saying, and I was like, we need
Speaker 1: to put this on this album and then he's like nah.
Speaker 1: And that's why everybody knows Jay is very selfish. And
Speaker 1: we had a very like come on, jay Z man,
Speaker 1: we all love we all love him, but he's very selfish.
Speaker 1: And that was he'll say, like, man, I'm selfish. I'm selfish,
Speaker 1: so um, he wouldn't give that song. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm giving all it's just saying this. Holy Gerrel was
Speaker 1: originally supposed to be on wing. No, it was supposed
Speaker 1: to be on his album, and I said, we need
Speaker 1: this because we all need to be losing, like how
Speaker 1: Lebron and then that just lost in this championship. I
Speaker 1: wanted to make that I'm better. He wanted to say
Speaker 1: that it's something that I heard that that's when y'all
Speaker 1: fell out, because like now, we fell out many times
Speaker 1: with my brother. Okay, so whenever you do some j
Speaker 1: ship and I do some ship, we don't say ship.
Speaker 1: That's in real ship. So um, when I get lifted,
Speaker 1: I don't know what y'all legend waste just came up.
Speaker 1: That's the drinks. So um uh So anyway, um, what
Speaker 1: we're talking about got you got mad about that. I
Speaker 1: was like, how I'm giving all this and you ain't
Speaker 1: giving the equal amount. And I find that in life period,
Speaker 1: I find that, you know, I love Jay so much,
Speaker 1: just like I love the city of Chicago so much.
Speaker 1: And it was always like the same thing with Jay
Speaker 1: or Chicago. They always wanted it to be somebody more gangster.
Speaker 1: They didn't want it to be ya. That was with Kim.
Speaker 1: Maybe she wanted to be a ball player or something.
Speaker 1: You know, it was like nobody wanted it to be
Speaker 1: or you know with the Elas group, but differently they
Speaker 1: wanted to be somebody is more controllable. They didn't want
Speaker 1: it to be you know, uh, they didn't want it
Speaker 1: to be yea. And it's always like this uphill battle.
Speaker 1: I still, you know what, so funny. I just couldn't
Speaker 1: ever a race the way to T would look at
Speaker 1: me sometimes when I go to the to the studio,
Speaker 1: and I always felt like it was an air of that,
Speaker 1: like no matter how big you get, Nigga fuck you
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And that's how I always say, that's how he always
Speaker 1: makes me feel. So whatever I like get mad at Ja,
Speaker 1: I get mad at to the same time. Always like
Speaker 1: I kind of pull them into the same thing because
Speaker 1: you know, you'll never forget that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like Nigga was wrong with my polo type, you know,
Speaker 1: like you ain't gonna look me into a throwback. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep my polo on. Actually, But they wrote people
Speaker 1: all the rout Fellow Awards because I need right though talk.
Speaker 1: Because I would go down to Atlanta and they had
Speaker 1: the mintel and stand in the middle of the lintic
Speaker 1: small and I take my little producer money and I
Speaker 1: was just I'm a Garmento. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: my family made the first bootleg Louis Baton Jogasus because
Speaker 1: they would like uh, when they would confiscate the drugs
Speaker 1: inside the Louis the top as they cut up the bags,
Speaker 1: my family went and would take the patches and put
Speaker 1: them on the clothes. So that means like when they
Speaker 1: had Howard Hughes died and they called it the Aviator.
Speaker 1: My film gonna be called Garmento because I am the
Speaker 1: biggest person, like I said in every interview, ever been
Speaker 1: in the biggest person e existed in fashion. You could
Speaker 1: google it. For the past three years, easy has been
Speaker 1: the number one most google brand, most valuable brand on
Speaker 1: the planet. Don't hit the horns or here, no claps.
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm steal in the Mrs Something back. But
Speaker 1: somehow we we drifted to Uhi no. No. It was
Speaker 1: something in the train of thought that I wanted to
Speaker 1: say before I got to the thing about my family,
Speaker 1: just talking about the throwbacks. Throwbacks here, so I would
Speaker 1: come back to baseline and I have like the astros
Speaker 1: all or something, and then j I'd be like, you
Speaker 1: know where you get that from. I was like Atlanta
Speaker 1: that I come with another one. He's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: come with a third. I said, what you look at
Speaker 1: that line of So also, Don c always been like
Speaker 1: on like that, you know, hype beasts kind of like
Speaker 1: selling clothes online since day one, back when the back
Speaker 1: when the letters was green on the computer screen, and
Speaker 1: he would be buying stuff for cheaper and fab would
Speaker 1: going by his throwbacks from dons. And it's before Don
Speaker 1: became a manager. But by the time when me and
Speaker 1: Don came together, we really That's what Jim Jones would
Speaker 1: tell you, that's what we revolutionized it because we used
Speaker 1: to sit there and be like, when we get money,
Speaker 1: niggas ain't gonna be able to see us when we
Speaker 1: get this money. And it was me and Donna just
Speaker 1: be sitting there like, yo, we get this. And when
Speaker 1: I got it, I went to the Louis store, got
Speaker 1: all these Louis bags, started doing the shoots with that
Speaker 1: I even bought like the Louis swage. I kind of
Speaker 1: looked like this jacket and stuff. It's this one shoot
Speaker 1: where I got the glasses the jacket, the Louis bags
Speaker 1: and he's like, what are you doing all that that
Speaker 1: that Louis Lugett yourself. I don't know, it made it
Speaker 1: made me feel regal or something like on something coming
Speaker 1: to America type uh type vibe. So now don got
Speaker 1: a store right now. I'm in the process of you know,
Speaker 1: I've asked nicely to give my home Valenciaga store because
Speaker 1: I like my pool. You know, sometimes people say that
Speaker 1: go to Balenciaga stor and be like, man, they don't
Speaker 1: look like how you can be looking and this and that,
Speaker 1: like and I'm like, your means your pick pick clothes
Speaker 1: that I picked. That's the officially affiliation with the Valenciaga
Speaker 1: because a lot of people got mad at Gucci when
Speaker 1: Gucci came out with this the lips where there was
Speaker 1: mocking black people. A lot of people thought that. But
Speaker 1: Laciyaga and Gucci, Yeah, it's the same group as France Ropino.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite people. I like, no, this
Speaker 1: is my These are my um what do you call um?
Speaker 1: Not counterparts, but like when you'all work in the same field,
Speaker 1: your peers, Yeah, these are my peers, you know. But
Speaker 1: nord I know it is my peer. Piano is my peer,
Speaker 1: Rose is my peer, Elon is my peers is my peer,
Speaker 1: jack Ma is my peer. That's just want you all
Speaker 1: to understand who my peers are. All the rest is
Speaker 1: did okay, okay peers, Steve Jobs, Disney Hughes Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: now yes this is the same company. But man, how
Speaker 1: about we start owning some stock or some land. What
Speaker 1: we own braids? You can't have braids what we own
Speaker 1: the n word. You can't say nigga, but you can't
Speaker 1: buy your house. You tell us about what they can't do.
Speaker 1: The person they own the block and say what they
Speaker 1: want to say. And we're talking about this are block.
Speaker 1: You don't own the block. And you know how you
Speaker 1: own the block. First of all, it's saving what you're
Speaker 1: financially doing it. It's it's the way you're taking care
Speaker 1: to block. But that's easy for me to say, right,
Speaker 1: I had both my parents. I'm amazingly attractive and talented,
Speaker 1: you know, but we are put like we say, crabs
Speaker 1: in a barrel. We are in a barrel. We not
Speaker 1: we now put the forty acres in a mule. And
Speaker 1: the more and more we look at like the numbers
Speaker 1: on YouTube. But this, you know, the you know busting.
Speaker 1: I don't even got him. I don't even gotta watch
Speaker 1: right now. Pastor gave me a time X. I had
Speaker 1: that one where I had like this, uh, I actually
Speaker 1: bought it that day and I gave it away that day.
Speaker 1: What was that You missed that giveway? Because no, it's
Speaker 1: just pastor and he hadn't. What I did with that
Speaker 1: watch was when I was taking I was at a
Speaker 1: church called Grace Farms since uh, designed by these architects
Speaker 1: I love named Sana out of Japan. This is went boom,
Speaker 1: so that ship at the bottom of the screen. So
Speaker 1: the pastor was talking to me. He's said something. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: you know why racism because he's a white pastor, so
Speaker 1: he want just instantly talk to me about racism. He
Speaker 1: said racism wrong, it's because you know, God don't make junk.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, like, don't say it like that. Man,
Speaker 1: don't very like those met your explanation for racism. But
Speaker 1: this man I'm talking to him about Man, I want tom,
Speaker 1: I want to pull my family back together. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: this interview is not that helpful to that. But the
Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, I think so because I gotta
Speaker 1: get the people about the life that shouldn't be in
Speaker 1: the life. And that's my wife at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. So it's like I'm using because by the way,
Speaker 1: I can't do nothing illegal, but this is legal, ain't it.
Speaker 1: So I'm the priest of my home. So if I
Speaker 1: need men, I need to get up out there and
Speaker 1: to publicist to get out there. That's what that's my
Speaker 1: that's my family. That's my family. E that's my family. Hulu.
Speaker 1: That's my family, Hulu. That's my family, Hulu real ship.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, y'a said it killed me and
Speaker 1: George Will don't care about black people's up now up
Speaker 1: up and this and this is my family also. That's
Speaker 1: that's why I let me, let me ask this. One
Speaker 1: of the one of the beautifulest things is my family.
Speaker 1: And I said, man, you do not make your first
Speaker 1: song the call asks I always want to make a
Speaker 1: song that if I'm going through the airport and people
Speaker 1: sing my song, it's my theme music. When you go
Speaker 1: through the airport, everybody screams out, gotta make it. So
Speaker 1: one of the beautiful things I see you do is
Speaker 1: at the DMX pass give my tune stung at the
Speaker 1: DMX pass. You're not only um you know, did design
Speaker 1: the shirt that I got on right now, but you
Speaker 1: also attended to the feud this good circle. The head
Speaker 1: of Balenciaga designed that shirt, the head of the and
Speaker 1: that's when we started building a relationship because he did
Speaker 1: a Halloween costume. For First of all, he worked at
Speaker 1: Easy season one, so we were all minute with the
Speaker 1: head of Blissa Yaga worked that Easy. Yes. Holy so
Speaker 1: we're in the we're in the um and the apartment
Speaker 1: where my wife got robbed. Yes, so just before then
Speaker 1: and inside of this we got Kim trob the head
Speaker 1: of Skims used to be creative director Easy. I brought
Speaker 1: over the Skims. They had these weird black wire brawls
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you my creative director. Because the people that you
Speaker 1: in business with, they just trying to use your name.
Speaker 1: They don't really care about the product. And you see,
Speaker 1: that's how these numbers guys are and then they start
Speaker 1: seeing people other products. Alway said, we care about the product. Okay.
Speaker 1: We had in the apartment you had Jerry Lorenzo you
Speaker 1: have Virgil Ablow, Yeah, Kim Schrab you had me, Yeah.
Speaker 1: A few others don't have Lue Set who's the head
Speaker 1: shoe designer at yea Z. Now we have Mark Minor,
Speaker 1: we got from Nikes. They had the easier des Didas.
Speaker 1: And you have Demina the head of balns Yaga. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm a community builder. I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: together the right people at all times. But the people
Speaker 1: that have in the past been in a position of
Speaker 1: power gonna try to separate j and Dame, Separate my
Speaker 1: mom and my dad, Separate me and Virgil. You give
Speaker 1: me see the pattern that makes it impossible for black
Speaker 1: Wall Street, but Wall Street, you know, forever begin simply
Speaker 1: because I thought about it the way Kamen said, I
Speaker 1: thought of our community growing where we don't or we
Speaker 1: not forced to make the choice of whether or not
Speaker 1: we can afford to have a child. We're not forced
Speaker 1: to say I'm had to you know, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to kill this thing because he said this and this that.
Speaker 1: You know, you never hear about Jewish on Jewish crime.
Speaker 1: You know they'll kill each other in business in a
Speaker 1: different kind of way, but not actually physically taking a life.
Speaker 1: So with me and Q went into business on a
Speaker 1: big three. What I said, I said to him, I said,
Speaker 1: what we have to do to honor God is we're
Speaker 1: gonna be noble when I killing each other on business.
Speaker 1: Business always be like thirty page contracts and us doing
Speaker 1: and getting something. I don't negotiate. I don't do a
Speaker 1: contract that's more than one page. It's very hard to
Speaker 1: get me to sign something at all. Why I need
Speaker 1: to sign something. I pay cash. I don't even pay monthly.
Speaker 1: I just pay. I pay half and half. Somebody like
Speaker 1: I want, you know, three a year or whatever. I'm like,
Speaker 1: give me an account number and then get that one
Speaker 1: fifty and in six months if you did a good job,
Speaker 1: you get another one fifty. If you run out after
Speaker 1: six months, and then we just ain't gonna be working
Speaker 1: again until you apologize. Because I'm the most uh forgiving person,
Speaker 1: because I still believe in you, even when you being
Speaker 1: less than you. I gotta realize if people take advantage
Speaker 1: of me, that's something that's them. They lives being taken
Speaker 1: advantage of something. You know. Because I'm a walking vic,
Speaker 1: I'm a target. I just say yes to anything. I
Speaker 1: just can't say no. I'm here to only say yes.
Speaker 1: That's the key to life. You get what I'm saying that,
Speaker 1: yes man, Yeah, yes man, I'm the yes man. Anybody
Speaker 1: someone you want my When me and my dad bonded,
Speaker 1: my dad used to have to say, I'm working on
Speaker 1: this water purification center. I found this new spot is
Speaker 1: gonna cost us a million of bottom land. And he
Speaker 1: my dad is pitching to me. My dad ain't had
Speaker 1: to do one thing for me. You don't have to
Speaker 1: do one thing. Nut, You ain't gonna do nothing. That's
Speaker 1: all my dad ever had to do was nut. He
Speaker 1: ain't asked me for nothing. Nothing else he made me.
Speaker 1: I told my dad Da, I said, look, call Andre.
Speaker 1: Who's my cousin. Who's uh? He used to work at
Speaker 1: Earnest Young. I'm always screaming at him. Um, he as
Speaker 1: accounting right now. I said, call Andre. Anything in my
Speaker 1: account is available to you. And if you spend it
Speaker 1: all up, I'm just gonna make more money. Wow. Gee.
Speaker 1: And that's a multi billion dollar situation. That means every
Speaker 1: dream that the real Steve jobs. My dad had. My
Speaker 1: dad the real Steve Jobs, but he didn't make gold Digger.
Speaker 1: He didn't get the easy he didn't had an opportunity,
Speaker 1: But guess what he made an earner like hoop dreams,
Speaker 1: like when somebody's son make it to the league. I
Speaker 1: made it to the league. My dad is a Christian counselor.
Speaker 1: My dad's sleeping homeless shelters and council people. My dad
Speaker 1: has a water purification center in the Dominican Republic. I'm
Speaker 1: just my dad. Everything I do that has any kind
Speaker 1: of nobility in that place is of my dad. Anything
Speaker 1: I do that's an entertainment is of my mom and
Speaker 1: my mom and education because my mom is, you know, educator.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, but I would be a
Speaker 1: type of person that's making my dad give me a PDF.
Speaker 1: You my dad, I know, I know how bout your
Speaker 1: girlfriend's city. Where did we go with? But moving forward? Right,
Speaker 1: I know I know what you use some of that money?
Speaker 1: Moving forward because we spoke on the phone. It was
Speaker 1: a great comment. It's not things that a man of
Speaker 1: God should do or saying. And one of the things
Speaker 1: that you said to me was you're out of death
Speaker 1: Jam And I felt like you would later being out
Speaker 1: of death Jam and changing your name and like the
Speaker 1: same category and what's the what's the question or that?
Speaker 1: Because I'm so what My question is why? Like after
Speaker 1: all these years, what are you doing? Moving forward? You're
Speaker 1: gonna be independent? Like is your next album gonna be
Speaker 1: on you? It's gonna be on your label, or I
Speaker 1: don't just work. I'm gonna go public. My thought that
Speaker 1: I'm that I have right now that I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I have to put it into fruition to other people
Speaker 1: can figure how to make it is mine. I have
Speaker 1: the biggest brand on the planet with Easy with Donda,
Speaker 1: you know, the richest man on the planets Bernardo No
Speaker 1: his last two employees used to work for me, So
Speaker 1: we have the biggest brand. We moved the gap stock
Speaker 1: by two billion dollars in like an hour when you
Speaker 1: put my name next to it, and um, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm gonna take myself public and create a
Speaker 1: universal basic income and go public for a t is
Speaker 1: a trillion but publicly traded public and make a universal
Speaker 1: not even universal basic income, but universal wealth. Because if
Speaker 1: every body has a hundred thousand a year, some people
Speaker 1: can spend it wrong, right right, but it changes what
Speaker 1: we value. Right now, they're pumping so many logos and
Speaker 1: so many you know, all the wrong kind of concepts.
Speaker 1: But it's inside of us. We collectively our God, we
Speaker 1: as a collection, God is in us, so collectively we
Speaker 1: are God as we move, Like when they move around Mecca,
Speaker 1: when you see that, you see God inside of that,
Speaker 1: the way those people are moving. Once we move and
Speaker 1: we realize that we just all have to be on
Speaker 1: one accord, like to do with Quincy Jones did in
Speaker 1: the studio. But do that to our life, that we
Speaker 1: all in one occord. When I when I go and
Speaker 1: say something that's about Drake, about John Legends, I'm just
Speaker 1: tuning the note so that we could play a symphony.
Speaker 1: M keep going. I'm scared to stop you now, Okay,
Speaker 1: Holy morning, still thas Okay, this is the last one
Speaker 1: because I got more over this. Oh no, I got
Speaker 1: two more. That's it Mob Deep or mp oh Mob Deep,
Speaker 1: but with Mob Deep my favorite um group, So bringing
Speaker 1: up Queen's price right now, keeping yeah, mob Mob Deep
Speaker 1: is my favorite group. Yeah, and then it's Collective's like
Speaker 1: a tie between Boutang and Tribe, but it's Mob Deep
Speaker 1: is in Quiet Storm. It's like you know what, man,
Speaker 1: I just feel very like just even the way I
Speaker 1: present myself now, but what I'm doing the the leather,
Speaker 1: this that just feels very mob deep, had this like
Speaker 1: slickness to I know, you know, it's like belly to
Speaker 1: begin in the belly when out here I think about
Speaker 1: Chrystom high Storm looks like the beginning of belly. And
Speaker 1: that's what I love. I had the most Hype Williams
Speaker 1: videos out of any artists of all time. And you're
Speaker 1: spending that money. Yeah, I went me and Hype. But
Speaker 1: good friends. People just say, y'all ain't gonna get along.
Speaker 1: Y'all both assholes about this. My best best, best best
Speaker 1: friend is Hype Williams. And um what I like this man?
Speaker 1: He made Jahn Rule look like eight feet tall. He
Speaker 1: knew how to, he knew how to and by the way,
Speaker 1: Rule is tenth feet tall inside. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: We kings at the end of the day. So I'm
Speaker 1: not saying this because I would never say nothing to
Speaker 1: ever disrespect IRV Gotti or Jah Rule. I've rocked with them.
Speaker 1: I love them. IRV is my man. Uh if I
Speaker 1: say something that I said, well, I said with John
Speaker 1: big Seawan Trap whatever. These are the things I honestly,
Speaker 1: I just how I honestly feel as far as like
Speaker 1: IRV Gotti, I love IRV Gotti. Bro, this's just like
Speaker 1: just I just can't even this express the amount of
Speaker 1: of So I don't even want that to beat me
Speaker 1: taking as like no halfway. But so he you know,
Speaker 1: he showed us as kings, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like when we do these cameras, if you take
Speaker 1: the camera, we can some of the things I would
Speaker 1: do is like put a camera this way that goes
Speaker 1: this direction because you're gonna look like a guy. He
Speaker 1: treat that camera a little bit lower. And when you
Speaker 1: said it, my my dad was a photographer also, so
Speaker 1: he explained that to me. And you look a certain
Speaker 1: kind of way. The press, the way they paint us,
Speaker 1: you know, will make us feel like that's all we
Speaker 1: could be, and that that it makes our feeling like that.
Speaker 1: But Hype went in and painted us a certain kind
Speaker 1: of way. And when you saw belly, they made sure
Speaker 1: it wasn't one. After that, I did them to listening sessions,
Speaker 1: right them, three listening sessions. This ship was the crazy
Speaker 1: shit ever. I brought my mom at home to show
Speaker 1: g d anthem like we just it's up right? Was
Speaker 1: it was there some listening sessions after that? Could Live
Speaker 1: Nation figure out the listening session? Oh oh, we gotta
Speaker 1: open the next spring, Hyke Williams. I'm gonna take all
Speaker 1: that making people look like who they are. Ship about
Speaker 1: of here, get down on about it here better. Elon
Speaker 1: mus Nicola, Well, I gotta say, Ellen, you know, because
Speaker 1: we'll be too. That's another thing we'll be too. Like
Speaker 1: in the past. Bro great, tests look great, but you know, Ellen,
Speaker 1: making my cars now, Elon making my rockets now, Elin
Speaker 1: making me smoke weed with my Joe Rogan. We're Nori
Speaker 1: over here, like not not mine. We are what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like Black History Month. Cancel right put
Speaker 1: this put this on black Twitter right now. Yea says
Speaker 1: canceled Black History Month. Why I need Black Future Month?
Speaker 1: I need Black possibility, Muff. I'm tired of seeing us
Speaker 1: getting hosed down. I'm tired to talk about slavery and
Speaker 1: how we should only be so lucky to vote for
Speaker 1: a woman we ain't seeing since the election. Jesus, I
Speaker 1: can't go there. Large large Professor prem trying to get
Speaker 1: off funs. Y'all thought, I aren't gonna get killed by
Speaker 1: I'm doing everything I can bro, No, we can't. No
Speaker 1: more black. This is here to remind you of who
Speaker 1: they want us to be and now who we really are.
Speaker 1: Bro the over and you know when I say they
Speaker 1: who this is overlapping. They the collegue we talk about.
Speaker 1: They don't want you to eat. Yeah, yeah, because they
Speaker 1: don't love you. They will put up with you, but
Speaker 1: they do not love us in that way, and they
Speaker 1: are afraid of what is inevitable. You ever seen the
Speaker 1: kid in ten mm square in front of the tank. Yo,
Speaker 1: as I got a gun pulled out on me, like
Speaker 1: about three weeks ago. I was out and uh Belgium
Speaker 1: because I had the full mask on, so it was
Speaker 1: a white mask, no full black, full mask on. So
Speaker 1: the cop came. But when he came, he had the
Speaker 1: gun out at the beginning, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess this is it. You said, No, that's just
Speaker 1: what I thought. I was up because if he's gonna
Speaker 1: pulled then I don't play with I want to see
Speaker 1: my mama. I don't say God used God used people
Speaker 1: like this. You know that I could come right here
Speaker 1: and let y'all know, y'all entrapped and he made it
Speaker 1: nowhere y'all aiming at the wrong people. I love Drake,
Speaker 1: I love Drake Lucy And how you like that one?
Speaker 1: How do you like that one? I love Drake Vivendi.
Speaker 1: How you like that one? I love Drake Disney? How
Speaker 1: do you like that one? On? Y'all collaborating? Listen? Come
Speaker 1: get me what y'all going through? Y'all meet to me.
Speaker 1: Y'all come up with some type of scare. Y'all come
Speaker 1: up with something and try to take me. No, God
Speaker 1: had me for a reason because if I was at Nike,
Speaker 1: you think I have been ever wear a red hat?
Speaker 1: Do you think I've been able to have an opinion?
Speaker 1: You think I'll be able to show you we can't
Speaker 1: have an opinion. That's all you needed to see. We
Speaker 1: are not immune from who we influenced by. Right here,
Speaker 1: I'm here to like light it up, then I'm gone.
Speaker 1: But after an interview like this, I did my job.
Speaker 1: But if I hadn't come to you and said this
Speaker 1: and kept it to myself, then then God couldn't have
Speaker 1: used me. You know what I'm saying. I only fear
Speaker 1: God as I said, and I'm not always obedient. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot going on. It's a lot going on
Speaker 1: out here. You know what I'm saying. I fall short.
Speaker 1: They say Moses killed the man and all that, you know,
Speaker 1: before God called on him. Man, our freedom is first
Speaker 1: of all, let's do everything we can to keep our children.
Speaker 1: There's a foundation that has been started, actually bumped into
Speaker 1: the gentleman um whose dad started foundation in Israel that
Speaker 1: gives money to women who are thinking about um not
Speaker 1: having a baby. And that's the exact time that I'm on.
Speaker 1: That's what we on. That's what we're only on. God
Speaker 1: time now somehow made it this far man, you know,
Speaker 1: to be able to give y'all this information. Yeah, praise God, bro,
Speaker 1: And that's I'm telling you. I know. It's also kind
Speaker 1: of funny when I'm talking about John and Big Sean
Speaker 1: and you know what it is, it would be sunny funny.
Speaker 1: It's like people, it hurt. It hurt us. People who
Speaker 1: love me, like Charlemagne loved me, but he had to,
Speaker 1: you know, put Biden on the thing. And they think
Speaker 1: about this happened when Biden when remember he said, Charlemagne,
Speaker 1: if you didn't vote for me, then you're not black.
Speaker 1: Well you that showed you. That showed you how comfortable
Speaker 1: he was and how much they talked before that, and
Speaker 1: you know what must have happened afterwards? They got room
Speaker 1: like John, I supposed to be showing that. Y'all like that. That,
Speaker 1: y'all like that that y'all like that, John Legend, Sean,
Speaker 1: this is some ight, four bro. This is mind control,
Speaker 1: this populationship control. Rise up, man, look inside of you, man.
Speaker 1: So we're going with laws pro or premo premo. All right,
Speaker 1: this is the last one, m j O. Prince. We
Speaker 1: can drink for that. Yeah, you know that's gonna be equal. Okay,
Speaker 1: you like help keep Yeah, I do that. You know
Speaker 1: what to do that we help him off, you know,
Speaker 1: I put him on drinks. That's cool. Michael Jackson met
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Yes, I did. So you meet Prince to
Speaker 1: because Prince so this. So both of them were fighting
Speaker 1: a fight similar to what I'm fighting, but they were
Speaker 1: fighting it for their for for there to be more
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's for there to be yea, for there to
Speaker 1: be drink is what they fought for. So now what
Speaker 1: I'm fighting for is the ability for there to be
Speaker 1: e Lien's of us, for there to be Bernard our
Speaker 1: nose of us, because until we're at the level of
Speaker 1: our no, we're gonna be clapping for just getting a job,
Speaker 1: for all no attiluity to the level. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying When when Lebron when the championship, he looks
Speaker 1: at this white lady that owns the team, that says,
Speaker 1: I told you it's gonna win for you. That's the
Speaker 1: part I don't like. That's the part because if you're king,
Speaker 1: then let's be kings. That's part. We're starting up our
Speaker 1: own league, and I'm here at battling for us for
Speaker 1: our freedom, to be able to build our communities and
Speaker 1: not being a position where we have to kill half
Speaker 1: of ourselves every year. Okay, now I hit the third rail.
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