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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Chargie and
Speaker 1: my co host today is Thornystrom. Hey, buddy, Hey, how
Speaker 1: are you doing. Oh God, it's been it's been pandemonium.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I Normally I don't talk a
Speaker 1: lot about myself or ourselves and our personal lives and
Speaker 1: stuff on the show, but Thor this is uh. As
Speaker 1: some listeners know, I've decided to relocate from Minneapolis to
Speaker 1: southern Utah. The drive down, I spent all of last
Speaker 1: week driving down and pulling a camper behind me because
Speaker 1: I own a camper. Had to get it down here,
Speaker 1: and it was it was it was chaos, just chaos.
Speaker 1: We got I got to Laramie, Wyoming and everything was
Speaker 1: going okay at that point, but then high winds forced
Speaker 1: me off the highways. They closed the highway and Laramie
Speaker 1: and then I had to start making all of these
Speaker 1: little I'm taking like little county roads for the next
Speaker 1: like I don't know, five hundred miles to kind of
Speaker 1: go the direction I needed to go on these little
Speaker 1: tiny roads, pulling this camper that's bouncing behind me. Ah man,
Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy, Thor, but you made it.
Speaker 3: You got to spend some time in Laramie. I hope
Speaker 3: you paid homage to Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: I did, I did. I thought I thought it. When
Speaker 1: I pulled into Laramy, I'm like, this is Josh Allen territory.
Speaker 1: He owns this place, yes, and who could throw through
Speaker 1: the winds of Laramie. J Josh Allen. Absolutely he could. Yes.
Speaker 1: So now I'm in I'm I'm in this. I'm in
Speaker 1: the house that we've moved to. But there's no furniture,
Speaker 1: and that means every room's empty and they echo. All
Speaker 1: the rooms echo. I've found one room with the echoes
Speaker 1: not too bad, and that is in my closet, so
Speaker 1: as you can, you can see listener's cat or I am.
Speaker 1: I'm recording this from my closet right now. Try to
Speaker 1: minimize echo because I'm an audio snob. Oh man, it looked.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it looked like you were in a prison cell,
Speaker 3: initially from from my vantage point, but I was happy
Speaker 3: to learn that that it's a closet.
Speaker 1: It's just a closet, yes, yes, And then compounding matters.
Speaker 1: And this is the last, the last major diversion I
Speaker 1: will do before we jump into our actual topic today.
Speaker 1: That is, the house next to me is being built
Speaker 1: right now, and so there's construction and they're sawing and
Speaker 1: pounding and hammering. So also this closet on the other
Speaker 1: side of the house, so I wanted to get away
Speaker 1: from that, so I was worried that was going to
Speaker 1: leak through as well. So it's just, yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: absolute craziness over here. But glad that everybody joined us,
Speaker 1: we're able to talk through the rest of the rounds
Speaker 1: of the draft. Last week we did rounds, we did
Speaker 1: round one, and we did all reactions. We had all
Speaker 1: five of our guys. This week it is after round one.
Speaker 1: I've asked you to give me some of the guys
Speaker 1: that you think found notable fantasy players who found themselves
Speaker 1: into good spots and bad spots for and we've got
Speaker 1: we've got about eleven ish guys to get through.
Speaker 3: Excited to do it, Yeah, I mean We had some
Speaker 3: very interesting ones talk to all spring about the historical
Speaker 3: running back class. We got some running back rooms around
Speaker 3: the NFL that got reshuffled after the draft, so and
Speaker 3: some guys who fell into just bonanza landing spots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm super excited to talk to you about it.
Speaker 1: So we'll do we'll do the good spots, we'll do
Speaker 1: the bad spots. Good Times, Bad Times. That was a
Speaker 1: good Times Bad Times was an absolute epic led Zeppelin song.
Speaker 1: And when I asked, I asked you off air, what's
Speaker 1: your all time favorite led Zeppelin song? And you said,
Speaker 1: I said that I don't know the names of the song.
Speaker 1: How can you not know? Stairwoid to happen?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean like I could tell you that the
Speaker 3: top U d f A from Wyoming at that time
Speaker 3: was was a kid named Eclair. Whyclai, I think my
Speaker 3: brain space, that's where it goes to. And then I
Speaker 3: don't remember names of songs and and other such things.
Speaker 1: All right, you gotta you gotta, I understand, you gotta
Speaker 1: jettisons for some extra memory if you're gonna if you're
Speaker 1: gonna know all all the Laramie prospects. So yes, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's amazing. I I'm gonna by the way,
Speaker 1: side note, I'm gonna go Cashmere. Even though it's not
Speaker 1: the uh, it's not the best led Zeppelin song. It's
Speaker 1: just my favorite led Zeppelin song. But it's not like
Speaker 1: the one that uh where you're like, oh it's the
Speaker 1: you know, it's the best shredder they ever had, or
Speaker 1: the best singing they ever had, or John Bonham's playing
Speaker 1: the best drums. I just I just love that song.
Speaker 4: It turns out that my favorite ones called the immigrant song.
Speaker 1: Oh well, there you go. That's that's totally valid. I
Speaker 1: love it. That's a great song to bank. It is
Speaker 1: a banger. Absolutely. Okay, let's roll up our sleeves on
Speaker 1: some of the key players. Who let's start with the
Speaker 1: good spots. We'll start. We'll start with the positive first.
Speaker 1: How's that sound.
Speaker 4: Let's do it all right.
Speaker 1: Quenchhn Judkins found itself himself in Cleveland, and Cleveland was
Speaker 1: one of I thought the two most running back and
Speaker 1: needy landing spots in this draft, along with Denver. Tell
Speaker 1: me about how you think quinch On Judkins will fit
Speaker 1: into this scheme.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the bronze situation certainly was exactly how you described,
Speaker 3: and they not only prioritize spending some real draft equity
Speaker 3: on their new Belkoll quench On Judkins, I also believe
Speaker 3: they got their passing down back later on in Dylan Samson,
Speaker 3: so they can you know, this is something I advocated
Speaker 3: other teams do during the NFL draft process, but basically
Speaker 3: construct your backfield out of this historic running back class,
Speaker 3: and Cleveland actually did it.
Speaker 4: But Judkins, you step into that.
Speaker 3: Bell, call bellcow roll right away, gonna He's gonna get
Speaker 3: the usage that you're looking for In fantasy. The offense
Speaker 3: might not be the best, but Quinjohn Jukins is going
Speaker 3: to be getting all the touches around the goal line,
Speaker 3: in the red zone, et cetera. And of course between
Speaker 3: the twenties as a runner, Dylan Samson I believe is
Speaker 3: the guy who, like I said, who is going to
Speaker 3: be the passing down guy. Quin John Judkins the one
Speaker 3: slight nippick about his game. Didn't get to see as
Speaker 3: much of him as a receiver dynamically in college, but
Speaker 3: we know that he can handle heavy usage as as
Speaker 3: the running back. So yeah, that's how I expected to go.
Speaker 3: Quinn John Jenkins doing Quinnchhn Judkins things and then Dylan
Speaker 3: Samson doing sort of a poor man Trevion Henderson.
Speaker 1: You think Judkins starts week one for sure?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And not only that, I will I'll set the
Speaker 3: over under it for his touches that we get twenty two.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to be giving him the ball all
Speaker 3: the time. The quarterback room, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pick, Dylan Gabriel,
Speaker 3: Shadeer Sanders, and Deshaun Watson. That team must run the ball. Now,
Speaker 3: the games, of course, could start getting away from him
Speaker 3: when you know this fall people, and whether you're in
Speaker 3: Redraft or where you're in Dynasty, you have quinchn Jukins
Speaker 3: on your roster, there are gonna be matchups, I think
Speaker 3: where you will have to consider sitting him. But there's
Speaker 3: also gonna be smash ones, right because when the game
Speaker 3: script starts to get away from from Cleveland, that's when
Speaker 3: you're gonna see Dylan Samson on the field as opposed
Speaker 3: to Junkins when they're.
Speaker 4: Just throwing throw and throwing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Junkins normal game scripts is going to get
Speaker 3: all all the work he can handle.
Speaker 1: Let's assume that Deshaun Watson gets cut released something not
Speaker 1: on this team, But then they still have another quarterback
Speaker 1: to go. Do you have who do you think is
Speaker 1: going to be the next odd man out of a
Speaker 1: five quarterback.
Speaker 4: Room?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 3: That's interesting because you got the two veterans there. You
Speaker 3: wouldn't imagine they're gonna cut one of.
Speaker 4: Those two guys.
Speaker 3: But getting if I don't think they're gonna be able
Speaker 3: to get Gabriel into their practice squad based on the
Speaker 3: way the NFL treated uh Shdeer Sanders last weekend, they
Speaker 3: have a shot at that.
Speaker 4: But then if he's showing stuff or in the.
Speaker 3: Preseason, yeah, then I don't know if you're going to
Speaker 3: be able to So that is going to be interesting
Speaker 3: how they sort through those things.
Speaker 4: Certainly not keeping four active quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: No, I mean almost teams almost never keep four active quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: so that it seems like somebody's there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: high profile cut out of that group. Let me mention
Speaker 1: one guy that we're not going to talk about is
Speaker 1: a bad landing spot guy. But because we're talking the Browns,
Speaker 1: Harold Fannin gets logjam behind David and Joku, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of a bummer for him at least short term.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: And to get on the field at that point within
Speaker 3: Djoko on this roster, it will require yanking off either
Speaker 3: and Djoko or Deontay Johnson. Right like Fannin is the
Speaker 3: twelve personnel guy where you have the inline dude and
Speaker 3: then you move Fanning around. But to do that you
Speaker 3: have to yank the slot receiver off the field. They
Speaker 3: signed Deontay Johnson. I already see the Browns fans trying
Speaker 3: to do the thing of oh, he's he's he's been
Speaker 3: engaged this offseason and he's gonna have a rebound season,
Speaker 3: all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 4: Harold fan and owners. You're almost rooting that Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 3: Has just totally checked out at this point, and then
Speaker 3: he can get on the field more because and Joke, Uh,
Speaker 3: Fanning can't do the Djoku stuff as far as on
Speaker 3: the line and then blocking defensive ends. So you almost
Speaker 3: need both those guys on the field together when Fannin's
Speaker 3: gonna be on the field, because you won't have an
Speaker 3: inline guy if Fannon's on the field and Joke who's not.
Speaker 1: As mentioned earlier, Thor Denver was the other team that
Speaker 1: I think was deeply well everybody thinks was deeply running
Speaker 1: back needy. They landed art Jay Harvey, who to me
Speaker 1: vaults also to the top of the depth chart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this this was my This is like the biggest
Speaker 3: stock up. This was bonanza outcome everything. People who did
Speaker 3: the drafts before the their fantasy drafts, before the NFL
Speaker 3: drafts happened.
Speaker 4: If you ran into RJ.
Speaker 3: Harvey on your dynasty team, congratulations, go Yeah, that asset
Speaker 3: is worth a heck of a lot more today than
Speaker 3: than it was before the draft.
Speaker 4: I was one of the in church. You know this.
Speaker 4: I was one of the most bullish people in the
Speaker 4: entire meeting on RJ. Harvey.
Speaker 3: I ended up with him at RB six. He was
Speaker 3: close to my RB five, who was Quinn Shawn Jenkins.
Speaker 4: I had r J. Harvey seventy five.
Speaker 3: It turns out the one person who was more bullets
Speaker 3: than me on r J Harvey with Sean Payton, and boy,
Speaker 3: what a fit here as Sean Payton offense historically, that
Speaker 3: is love throwing to the running back.
Speaker 4: So that's number one.
Speaker 3: You get the draft equity where you're stepping into the
Speaker 3: bell call role immediately. It was a Wasteland at running
Speaker 3: back there before, and the quarterback of that team is
Speaker 3: one of our favorite screen guys in the NFL and
Speaker 3: it is their bow Nicks.
Speaker 4: So I mean, like all this stuff is set up
Speaker 4: for RJ.
Speaker 3: Harvey to be pounded both on the ground with usage
Speaker 3: but also as a receiver and charge.
Speaker 4: It's interazing. I was talking r J.
Speaker 3: Harvey at the Senior Ball and asking him about, you know,
Speaker 3: the things he wanted to show the NFL when he
Speaker 3: was at that event in Mobile, and he was talking
Speaker 3: about want to show more as a receiver, and I said, well, RJ,
Speaker 3: you were one of two backs in this class that
Speaker 3: at one point two five yards per route runner more
Speaker 3: each of the last two seasons. And he kind of
Speaker 3: chuckled and he's like, I he didn't know that. He
Speaker 3: was telling me though, what what you know sort of
Speaker 3: what frustrated him? And he was super nice about it.
Speaker 3: But what frustrated him number one, And he said this
Speaker 3: in an extremely nice way, but the quarterback play there
Speaker 3: wasn't very good. And then they also were not sending
Speaker 3: him down the field on routes pass the line of
Speaker 3: scrimmage as certainly as much as he would have liked
Speaker 3: the specific thing that he talked to me about. If
Speaker 3: this was what I want to show the NFL is
Speaker 3: winning pass the line of scrimmage on his route path
Speaker 3: before the ball was thrown.
Speaker 4: Because that was the thing.
Speaker 3: He didn't think the UCFS offensive system allowed him to
Speaker 3: do that much in mobile When you saw him matched
Speaker 3: up those one on ones with outside linebackers with strong safeties,
Speaker 3: he was breaking their ankles, every single one of them.
Speaker 3: Nobody could stay with RJ. Harvey in space. And very
Speaker 3: very skilled receiver. Keep in mind that production he had
Speaker 3: as a receiver at UCF was in a bad passing
Speaker 3: environment with an offensive scheme that wasn't allowing his entire
Speaker 3: game to flower out. He is going to be an
Speaker 3: incredible receiving back at the next level, and he's a
Speaker 3: home run hitter. He has that bowling ball build five
Speaker 3: eight two O five, but legitimate four four speed or
Speaker 3: high four to three speed. He was ticked off he
Speaker 3: ran the four four flat during the pre draft process.
Speaker 3: He was running in the four threes during during his
Speaker 3: pre draft process during the training leading.
Speaker 4: Up to that. So r J. Harvey wheels up, wheels up.
Speaker 1: I remember you and I touched on him. You know,
Speaker 1: whenever we started breaking down running backs over a month ago,
Speaker 1: and you you brought him up and he wasn't somebody
Speaker 1: who was very familiar with you. You talked about his
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage, lateral quickness, you talked about
Speaker 1: his h his ability to break tackles, his elusiveness, and
Speaker 1: now here you just spent all the time talking about
Speaker 1: his pass catching ability. This just it feels like Harvey
Speaker 1: is is sitting in a just a smash spot, like
Speaker 1: you said, and I I'm trying. I don't have I
Speaker 1: have not started I haven't done my rankings yet. I
Speaker 1: think I think R. J. Harvey is going to be
Speaker 1: sitting at like running back twelve fourteen something like that. Overall,
Speaker 1: that sounds that maybe I'm being out overly optimistic, but
Speaker 1: that sounds about right.
Speaker 3: I you know, I haven't I haven't done any of those.
Speaker 3: I would have to stack him, but I would be
Speaker 3: bullish maybe even maybe even the back half of that
Speaker 3: top ten. Okay, yeah, Like because as a rookie, I
Speaker 3: just feel like he is going to get so many touches.
Speaker 3: And again to give the draft equity that you did
Speaker 3: there to spend the second round pick on r J.
Speaker 4: Harvey prioritizing like that. Yeah, they clearly have that role
Speaker 4: ready for him.
Speaker 3: And Sempayton's going to spend the next four months just
Speaker 3: drawing a plays on cocktail napkins for him, for like
Speaker 3: the receiving concepts, different routes at r J.
Speaker 4: Harvey's gonna run out of that backfield. They're gonna have
Speaker 4: a lot of fun with him.
Speaker 1: Al he sat on Sean Payton, sat on Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 1: I want to say about five games of his rookie
Speaker 1: year and then just you know, gave in and Kamara
Speaker 1: was awesome after that. It'll be interesting to see if
Speaker 1: this takes zero games for Harvey to become the starter
Speaker 1: or if it takes a little bit more time for
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. But just the dearth of other talent on
Speaker 1: the team suggests to me he's going to start right away.
Speaker 1: Let's go over to Caleb Johnson. You and I talked
Speaker 1: about a lot we texted during during an IOWA game
Speaker 1: last fall about Caleb Johnson's pro prospects. He finds himself
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and you like this landing spot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean another one that's really good. You know,
Speaker 4: obviously they bring.
Speaker 3: Jalen Warren is still there for another year, but Najre
Speaker 3: Harris is gone and Caleb Johnson obviously has been acquired
Speaker 3: to step into that Naja Harris role. Caleb Johnson is
Speaker 3: better than Nase Harris. He gets the explosive runs. We've
Speaker 3: talked about that about how he can manipulate the linebackers.
Speaker 3: He runs through more open holes. That's how he's able
Speaker 3: to access his high end speed. It's the slow acceleration,
Speaker 3: but the high high end, top end speed for a
Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty five pounds back. And I forgot
Speaker 3: if it was the Pittsburgh Steelers it took their color
Speaker 3: scheme from the Iowa Hawkeys, or if.
Speaker 4: It was vice versa.
Speaker 3: But there is something in there and you're gonna be
Speaker 3: wearing the same color in the pros love it.
Speaker 1: Kenneth Gainwell found himself in Pittsburgh too, and I thought
Speaker 1: Gainwell was coming up his best year, but Philadelphia didn't
Speaker 1: like him enough to keep him, and I don't think
Speaker 1: he's a major factor here. It'll be where Caleb Johnson.
Speaker 1: I still think Caleb Johnson's gonna be the power back.
Speaker 1: I think he's the goal line back for Pittsburgh. I
Speaker 1: don't think Jalen Warren has you know, really ever been
Speaker 1: that guy, and Kenneth Gainwell certainly isn't. So you know,
Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson could be a sneaky double digit touchdown guy
Speaker 1: because he's just such a good power back.
Speaker 3: And he talked about you know, and a lot of
Speaker 3: guys do that Le'Veon when you talk to the running
Speaker 3: backs in the pre draft process and you ask him
Speaker 3: who they they pattern their games after, who they watched,
Speaker 3: lots of them tosso Le'Veon Bell. Caleb Johnson did as well,
Speaker 3: and for him it actually stuck like I would hear
Speaker 3: like two hundred pump backs.
Speaker 4: Being like, oh I run like Le'Veon, I love Levia.
Speaker 3: For Caleb Johnson had actually made sense and good luck kid,
Speaker 3: Now you get a shot to try to replicate his career.
Speaker 1: Tyrone Tracy was one of the big surprises of last year,
Speaker 1: and the Giants ended up picking up Cam Scattabo, who
Speaker 1: you and I both just love. Stylistically, I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't watch camp Scatabo and not be just thrilled with
Speaker 1: the way he plays football. They just don't make guys
Speaker 1: like him. This Giants landing spot is really interesting because
Speaker 1: Tyrone Tracy brings a lot to the table, but like
Speaker 1: breaking tackles, powerback, goal line used, that's not his game.
Speaker 1: And that's where Cam Scatibo is in least theoretically, gonna
Speaker 1: have a big role with the Giants, don't you think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you said it.
Speaker 3: Finished number two in the FBS last year behind ash
Speaker 3: and gent and Forrestmith's tackles, and they've got you got
Speaker 3: the usage with him on the ground, heavy usage at
Speaker 3: Arizona State, and then he also finished number two on
Speaker 3: their team in receptions and very efficient type receiver and
Speaker 3: then after that it's just the berserker thing. Yeah, Like
Speaker 3: he's breaking tackles out there in the open field. Last year,
Speaker 3: one point nine to two yards per run led all
Speaker 3: backs in this class for Camp Scattaboy.
Speaker 4: So he's a very like you were.
Speaker 3: You were setting up a very good stylistic fit with
Speaker 3: Tyrone Tracy's.
Speaker 4: Game so that they're gonna mix and match those guys.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Scataboy is gonna get all that that high
Speaker 3: leverage stuff inside the ten yard line, so he's gonna
Speaker 3: whatever touchdowns they can pile up, but a lot to
Speaker 3: see their offense will be better than last year?
Speaker 4: How much better can it be?
Speaker 3: Their defense is certainly going to force a lot of
Speaker 3: three and out so that that offense should at least
Speaker 3: get possessions, and whenever they can get around the end zone,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Cam Scataboy time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hard to if Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston is
Speaker 1: as weird as it sounds. Their upgrades a quarterback huge
Speaker 1: where from from where the Giants were last year? And
Speaker 1: this offense is going to be better, And you're right,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have some a lot more short fields to
Speaker 1: work with, which is which is fantastic? I thought Drake
Speaker 1: May last year was downright gallant playing for the Patriots
Speaker 1: behind the league's worst offensive line and worst set of receivers.
Speaker 1: Now they addressed offensive line with a fourth pickover uh
Speaker 1: fourth fourth pickover all in the draft, and then in
Speaker 1: round three they drafted Kyle Williams to give a better
Speaker 1: target for for Drake May. So let's break down Kyle
Speaker 1: Williams a little bit. I have to assume you love
Speaker 1: the landing spot here because there's just so little competition
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kyle Williams, he was a third round pick sixty ninth. Overall,
Speaker 3: he's a better player than their high second round pick
Speaker 3: last year, Jalen Polk, and we talked.
Speaker 4: About that time.
Speaker 1: I can say it, you can't. You absolutely nailed that
Speaker 1: your concern on Jalen Polk. Now we're not saying he's
Speaker 1: dead yet, right, And a lot of times, you know,
Speaker 1: struggled people who struggled as a rookie will get better
Speaker 1: in your two but you you gave us a lot
Speaker 1: of reasons for concern at this time last year over
Speaker 1: Jalen Polk, and it turned out that you know, his
Speaker 1: rookie year suggested that you're right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Patriots this selection here, it's it's somewhat
Speaker 3: of an acknowledgment at that right like that, the running
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the wide receiver room that you were talking
Speaker 3: about in part was as bad as it was because
Speaker 3: that miss pick. I think they hit this one though.
Speaker 3: Kyle Williams one of the best release packages in this class.
Speaker 3: It's the reason that he can play on the boundary
Speaker 3: despite being a little bit smaller. He's a shade under
Speaker 3: five to eleven hundred and ninety pounds, but you can't
Speaker 3: get him off the line because of that release package.
Speaker 3: And then he's really good at the route break as well,
Speaker 3: the measurables.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: The way I think of it is he always starts
Speaker 3: out a rep with the head start because of the release,
Speaker 3: and then the defensive back catches up to him during
Speaker 3: the route stem, and then he pulls back ahead at
Speaker 3: the route break and then creates the separation and opens
Speaker 3: up the throwing windows. Drake May is really really going
Speaker 3: to like working with Kyle Williams. And he's solid after
Speaker 3: the catch too. He has good vision, he has good
Speaker 3: acceleration and there's sort of a slipperiness to the way
Speaker 3: that he runs as well. Very experienced. This is a
Speaker 3: five year starter, three years at UNLV prior to going
Speaker 3: to Wazoo, spent the one year with cam Ward and
Speaker 3: then last year cam Woard obviously was off to Miami,
Speaker 3: but Williams had the incredible season, last year's best statistical season.
Speaker 3: Kyle Williams will be a Week one starter for New England.
Speaker 3: He will be out there one of the three wide receivers,
Speaker 3: so I'll be curious to see how they do it.
Speaker 3: I imagine it's going to be as a boundary receiver.
Speaker 3: Although Kyle Williams has the versatility he played plenty in
Speaker 3: the slot as well. But I think that this is
Speaker 3: a boundary guy that might be the end for Matt
Speaker 3: Collins as a projected start there and then he can
Speaker 3: become the depth peats that he should be. But yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's how I think that's going to shake out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and step Diggs is a total question mark at
Speaker 1: this point thought for sure. Let's just say, I mean
Speaker 1: between the ACL and the age, you know, we don't
Speaker 1: know what, if anything, that that step On Diggs has
Speaker 1: got left. So Kyle Williams a primo opportunity to, like
Speaker 1: you said, be a week one starter and you know,
Speaker 1: potentially to have years together with Drake May. And if
Speaker 1: you like me like what you saw from Drake May
Speaker 1: last year, then you know, this could be somebody that
Speaker 1: ends up being styling your Dynasty team for years to come.
Speaker 1: Let's go over to the last of the players that
Speaker 1: we were going to discuss for good landing spots, and
Speaker 1: this is a good one, Tyler Shuck. Who ends up
Speaker 1: potentially talk about a guy who could be a week
Speaker 1: one starter. Yeah, you know, right now we have no
Speaker 1: idea what Derek Carr's status is with his shoulder, and
Speaker 1: for that matter, if he even wants to play for
Speaker 1: the Saints, or the Saints even want they want him
Speaker 1: there anymore. There's there's this thing is so murky and
Speaker 1: they put, you know, a lot of draft equity into
Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck. So what do you think about his prospects
Speaker 1: for starting soon?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the favorite outcome right now. It seems like
Speaker 3: Derek Carr is not going to be active at the
Speaker 3: beginning of the season. The weird stuff about the announcement
Speaker 3: of that injury and the timing of it, and maybe
Speaker 3: we'll get to the bottom of that over the next
Speaker 3: couple of months what exactly was going on there, But
Speaker 3: the fact that that happened and then immediately thereafter you
Speaker 3: spend the fortieth overall pick on a twenty six year
Speaker 3: old quarterback or a guy who's going to be twenty
Speaker 3: six as a rookie. That was that was pretty telling
Speaker 3: about I think the future of Derek Carr with the Saints.
Speaker 3: And like I said, I think the odds are on.
Speaker 3: Favorite outcome right now is that Tyler Schuck will be
Speaker 3: the Week one starter. You know, Spencer Ratler and j
Speaker 3: Cayner are the other two quarterbacks. On that roster, Tyler Shuck,
Speaker 3: he is talented six foot five, two hundred twenty pounds
Speaker 3: ninety seven percentile size of justed athlete, and he's got
Speaker 3: arm talent.
Speaker 4: My concern there, and I think we might have.
Speaker 3: Hit on this in a past episode, but it's it's
Speaker 3: a guy who didn't break out until his seventh season
Speaker 3: in college. He had three consecutive seasons with it, were
Speaker 3: wrecked by injuries at Texas Tech, and he flamed out
Speaker 3: over three years at Oregon his last year. You get
Speaker 3: into this, this statistically advantageous system for this underrated quarterback,
Speaker 3: whisper Jeff Brom, who sends quarterbacks to the NFL almost
Speaker 3: every single year. I'm sorry, I've seen guys do that
Speaker 3: over and over and over again. And Jeff Brom's system
Speaker 3: him inoculating them from their weaknesses at their game, you know,
Speaker 3: shine up shine. It off a little bit some of
Speaker 3: the statistical production. I don't believe it from Tyler Shuck,
Speaker 3: and I don't see what upside is there for me.
Speaker 3: That was a long term QB two. You keep them
Speaker 3: there too. You address the durability concern just by not
Speaker 3: having him out on the field. I think he's going
Speaker 3: to be stretched as a starter. But that being said,
Speaker 3: he could not have asked for a better landing spot
Speaker 3: because he's probably going to be one of two qbs
Speaker 3: who was starting Week one this you know this come
Speaker 3: in September, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So while we're on the Saints, let's just pivot
Speaker 1: for a second on Devin Neil. You and I broke
Speaker 1: down his game, like I said in that running Backs,
Speaker 1: running Backs episode that we did maybe six weeks ago,
Speaker 1: Let's talk Devin Neil for just a second. Because Alvin
Speaker 1: Kamara can't have too much juice left tread on that tire.
Speaker 1: Kendry Miller is just not even a factor here. I
Speaker 1: don't think, you know, Devin Neil is he's got he's
Speaker 1: got a really well rounded game, and I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, on the right landing spot, he'd have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to get some playing time. I liked him then.
Speaker 1: I still I'm still optimistic about his game. He went
Speaker 1: in around six, which I thought was maybe even a
Speaker 1: pretty good value there for me. What do you what
Speaker 1: do you think about this spot landings for Devin Neil
Speaker 1: with the Saints.
Speaker 3: That crazy steal in my opinion, the price point that
Speaker 3: the Saints got Devin Neil, and we knew charge, you know,
Speaker 3: like with this again historically stacked running back class, we
Speaker 3: knew that there was gonna guys, guys that we're gonna
Speaker 3: gonna get shoved down the board, maybe a round and
Speaker 3: a half, two rounds later than they would have gone
Speaker 3: just the previous year.
Speaker 4: That's the case with Devin Neil.
Speaker 3: If Devin Neil had been in the crappy running back
Speaker 3: class the year before round four and maybe he even
Speaker 3: touches the back half a round three, but in this
Speaker 3: stacked one, he ends up getting shoved down here. There
Speaker 3: is nothing else on that that run in that running
Speaker 3: back room outside of Alvin Kamara, Kendrey Miller. He'll be
Speaker 3: happy if he has a job by week one. I
Speaker 3: don't know if he makes it right camp. I agree,
Speaker 3: Clyde Edwards, z Laire. He's just trying to hang in
Speaker 3: the NFL for as long as he can. Vias Jones, Junior,
Speaker 3: Jordan Mims, Xavian Valade.
Speaker 4: What are we doing here? Devin Neil is the clear
Speaker 4: RB two on this team and he is going to
Speaker 4: get work this season.
Speaker 3: You mentioned the Kamara thing. You can't use him as
Speaker 3: much as you sewer, he's gonna break down. And by
Speaker 3: the way, if he does break down, it's Devin Neil time.
Speaker 3: Devin Neil is your handcuff for for Alvin Kamara. Devin
Speaker 3: Neil is a ridiculous value right now. In dynasty drafts, yes,
Speaker 3: but even in redraft leads. I want Devin Neil on
Speaker 3: my roster because I think that there's a real shot
Speaker 3: this season that he gets bellcoll usage in a couple
Speaker 3: of games.
Speaker 4: All it takes is a Kamara injury.
Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more? Couldn't agree more? Okay, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: a break. We're gonna identify five guys with landing spots
Speaker 1: we didn't end up loving, including one the first guy
Speaker 1: we talked about, Thor. I think you and I are
Speaker 1: kind of on an island with this guy that we're
Speaker 1: more nervous about this landing spot than other people are.
Speaker 1: Find out who we're talking about when we return for
Speaker 1: segment number two of Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back, Paul
Speaker 1: Tarchie and Thorn Eistrom. You can check out all of
Speaker 1: Thor's work at fantasylife dot com. What Thor, what kind
Speaker 1: of work have you done post draft? With Fantasy life
Speaker 1: so far.
Speaker 3: I turned in eighteen thousand words the Saturday night the
Speaker 3: draft got done on my draft grades, and that wasn't
Speaker 3: even with my all my tables, with all my counts
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But but but that's out there
Speaker 3: if you have not checked out my Warren piece NFL
Speaker 3: Draft grades.
Speaker 4: Checked that out.
Speaker 3: And then the current thing I'm working on that I
Speaker 3: hope people like is my UDFA class rankings, where this
Speaker 3: is I think my sixth or seventh year doing them.
Speaker 4: That this is only for sikos, so only only sickles
Speaker 4: apply for this one.
Speaker 3: But I laboriously go through it's UDFA class and then
Speaker 3: we end up ranking, and I have these metrics I've
Speaker 3: come up with it for over the years to try
Speaker 3: to quantify the UDFA classes and and in there I'll
Speaker 3: be talking about, of course, some skill guys that I
Speaker 3: think got into advantageous situations, have shot to crack the
Speaker 3: roster and need to be kept on the radar for Dynasty.
Speaker 1: I'm about the only person I think left who still
Speaker 1: thinks Rimandre Stevenson's a good running back. I believe, I
Speaker 1: believe in him and feel like he has been squandered
Speaker 1: the last couple of years behind a terrible offensive line,
Speaker 1: bad quarterback play, lots of other things. Although you know
Speaker 1: last year with Drake May was better, but still, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole team was terrible. I still think Ramandra Stevenson's
Speaker 1: got some has got some good games left ahead of him.
Speaker 1: But that ends up being the landing spot for Travion Henderson.
Speaker 1: Tell me what you tell me about how you feel
Speaker 1: about that landing spot in particular.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's a really good landings for the team.
Speaker 3: It's good because I think Ramondre is a really good
Speaker 3: stylistic compliment to to Travion Henderson's game and vice versa.
Speaker 3: Ramandre's recalled the sixteen game run by the Ohio State
Speaker 3: Buckeyes to the National championship last year, Travion doing Travion things,
Speaker 3: quinch On drunkins, doing quinch On Drunkins things. Ramondre Stevenson
Speaker 3: will be playing the Quinchohn junkins as it were here.
Speaker 3: But you know, and that's going to help Trivion stay healthy.
Speaker 3: You know, like we saw last year, over those sixteen games,
Speaker 3: you are going to get access to.
Speaker 4: Those explosive plays. Because of that.
Speaker 3: He last he was better on a person out basis
Speaker 3: than he had been the three previous years. I think
Speaker 3: the way that they used him and keeping them fresh
Speaker 3: in part told the story there. But that's what makes
Speaker 3: this landing spot difficult. Because with with it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a mediocre offense. Ramandri is gonna get that meat and
Speaker 3: potato stuff. There's gonna be games where Travion pops off
Speaker 3: because his game is hitting tingers. You get him into
Speaker 3: the open field and he starts a racing angles. He
Speaker 3: has a couple of those plays in one game. He's
Speaker 3: gonna flip games. He's gonna be a DFS guy, a
Speaker 3: guy where if you choose right at the right price
Speaker 3: point one week, he could bring you home a big
Speaker 3: contest or help get you up there in the standings.
Speaker 3: With it, it's gonna be difficult to know when it
Speaker 3: for this guy. The streaming thing is gonna be even
Speaker 3: more important. There's a bunch of running backs now in
Speaker 3: this class that on a week two week basis, I
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna prefer them over Travion. Travion is gonna
Speaker 3: be your up and down, more roller coaster guy, not
Speaker 3: because of his game, but again because of the usage.
Speaker 3: Because of the situation because you're in a bad offense,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be playing from from behind the whole bunch.
Speaker 3: But yeah, because that wasn't the most ideal landing spot,
Speaker 3: even though it's really good.
Speaker 4: For the team.
Speaker 1: DJ Giddons is somebody that that we broke down again
Speaker 1: when we talked running backs. I comped him to Robert Smith.
Speaker 1: You comped him to Zach Sharbone. Upright, tall runner with
Speaker 1: long loping strides, and those strides can just gobble up
Speaker 1: yards really effective when when he's when he can get
Speaker 1: up to speed and and especially north south. I thought
Speaker 1: there was a lot to like of his game, but
Speaker 1: then he drops in Indianapolis and this is not a
Speaker 1: great fantasy landing spot. When you're behind Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 3: This is this is a nightmare landing spot for DJ giins. I.
Speaker 3: I like DJ Giddens's game a lot, and the situation
Speaker 3: that I wanted to see him get in was with
Speaker 3: a team that had a good receiving back but needed
Speaker 3: more of the early down stuff, or or an aging
Speaker 3: guy that's a good receiver, and maybe then Giddens could
Speaker 3: take some of his early down work. The Saints would
Speaker 3: have been a great situation for him, right, like something
Speaker 3: like that, this is the horrible one because you have
Speaker 3: one of the NFL's best early downbacks that you're stuck
Speaker 3: behind the one spot that Colts could use. And this
Speaker 3: is why this selection. At a value standpoint, this was
Speaker 3: a smash. So I tip my hat to the Colts
Speaker 3: on that. But the stylistic thing, that's where I sort
Speaker 3: of scratched my head because the Colts needed a pass
Speaker 3: down back and DJ Giddens is not that at this point.
Speaker 3: He's one of the worst pass blocking running backs in
Speaker 3: this in this past class was horrible at it. And
Speaker 3: then the receiving is it's very inconsistent. I've seen some
Speaker 3: flashes from him that I really like. I have also
Speaker 3: seen him flub way more easy balls than analogous running backs,
Speaker 3: and so it's one of those things that he needs
Speaker 3: polish on that to be on the field when he's
Speaker 3: getting thrown to, and you cannot have him on the
Speaker 3: field when he is protecting your quarterback because someone's going
Speaker 3: to get decapitated.
Speaker 4: Right. So it's that's why I as long as Jonathan
Speaker 4: Taylor is on, Jonathan Taylor is just a better version
Speaker 4: of this. So for DJ Giddens.
Speaker 3: This was just a bad spot, Like you're going to
Speaker 3: be stuck behind him as the backup, sort of early
Speaker 3: down guy for the next several years.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to your next guy that with
Speaker 1: the landing spot. You do not love thor that's Jayalen Noel,
Speaker 1: who is a player we both liked a lot, and
Speaker 1: I was really excited to see where he could drop
Speaker 1: in and as especially as a as a as a
Speaker 1: mostly slot receiver. I was looking for a spot for
Speaker 1: a team that needed slot help. He lands with Houston,
Speaker 1: but they just acquired Christian Kirk, So it feels like,
Speaker 1: at least in the short term, Jaylen Nowell's a little
Speaker 1: bit log jammed with the Texans.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I did find it funny that the Texans took Jayden
Speaker 3: Higgins and Noel, of course, the dominant teammates from the
Speaker 3: Iowa State Cyclones, when they already had Xavier Hutchinson in
Speaker 3: the receiving room. Who was the last really good receiver
Speaker 3: for that they need to go out and trade for
Speaker 3: Allen Wizard.
Speaker 4: Now, let's just construct the whole thing out of Iowa
Speaker 4: State Cyclists. Maybe they could sign Hockey Butler. I think
Speaker 4: he's still a three free agent, so we can get
Speaker 4: the BAM bag together.
Speaker 1: Well, it is playing last scene playing tight end.
Speaker 4: I think I still believe charge.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm Scully and Moulder from the X Files
Speaker 3: with Hockey Butler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're not the only one. I was when
Speaker 1: when when he came out, I saw this, this big
Speaker 1: lanky receiver who won all these contested catches downfield, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, this this looks really promising. And
Speaker 1: I was excited for that guy. And then in the
Speaker 1: draft he got punished and he went way. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to remember which team drafted.
Speaker 4: Him, but never day three, I believe Clifton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, that's exactly right. And then basically just never
Speaker 1: hit the field, and I think he got hurt and
Speaker 1: then converted to tight end and it was all over.
Speaker 3: Experience is our is our best teacher, church, and mistakes
Speaker 3: even even more so. And Johnny Wilson in the last
Speaker 3: class was the pointing spider Man gift of Hockey Butler.
Speaker 4: Back in the day, I.
Speaker 3: Would have been I would have been all about Johnny Wilson,
Speaker 3: but I ended up ranking him around where he went
Speaker 3: in that draft class. But this we're sort we're sort
Speaker 3: of having fun with the Houston Texans' wide receiver room,
Speaker 3: but in all honesty, it is a mess. It's this
Speaker 3: this quagmire, and that's why Noel here. It could have
Speaker 3: either been Noel or Higgins. I just don't know how
Speaker 3: it's gonna shake out. The for sure thing we know,
Speaker 3: of course, one of the boundaries we got Nico Collins
Speaker 3: Christian Kirk, is he gonna play in the slot. That's
Speaker 3: what I'm guessing as well. And that's why my supposition
Speaker 3: is that Noel's college teammate Higgins is going to be
Speaker 3: the other starting boundary, and then you're you're stuck behind
Speaker 3: that in year one. Then Tank Dell comes back from injury.
Speaker 3: Now your long term situation for jaln Noel is complicated
Speaker 3: as well, getting Tank Dell in the slot.
Speaker 4: So I didn't love that. Like Noel, there was a.
Speaker 3: Whole bunch of situations around the NFL. I thought, if
Speaker 3: he went there, you're an immediate starter and you will
Speaker 3: be for a long time. Like the Raiders are a
Speaker 3: good example, Jack besh Right.
Speaker 4: They took Jack.
Speaker 3: The Raiders had zero at slot receiver before the draft,
Speaker 3: and so but there was a whole bunch of teams
Speaker 3: like this, Noel finds himself in this quagmire of a
Speaker 3: situation again, really like his game, and hilariously enough charts
Speaker 3: you know, on my five hundred player board, as you know,
Speaker 3: I compote all.
Speaker 1: Five all five hundred.
Speaker 4: My comfort, Jalen Noel, this is art imitating life. Was
Speaker 4: Christian Kirk?
Speaker 1: Shut up?
Speaker 4: It was starting God.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic, that's fantastic, tricky landing spot. But if
Speaker 1: you ask me, is Christian Kirk on this roster next year?
Speaker 1: The answer is no. Noel is the starter in the slot.
Speaker 1: And that is a you know, I think long after
Speaker 1: this year, Jalen Noel will be a starter in what's
Speaker 1: you know with obviously a in a very potentially very
Speaker 1: good offense with a very good charge.
Speaker 4: In that case, what happens to Tank Dell? Right, because
Speaker 4: you have Higgs took top of this.
Speaker 1: I don't think Tank plays again. Oh wow, Okay, I
Speaker 1: hope I'm wrong. I mean, obviously I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I mean this is you know, the the series of
Speaker 1: cascading injuries that he suffered, all all in one play
Speaker 1: are about as severe as anything that we've seen before.
Speaker 1: So in my mind. If Tank Dell ever plays again,
Speaker 1: it's all just a bonus. I hope I'm wrong. I
Speaker 1: hope I'm wrong. Let's go to your Let's go to
Speaker 1: your next player that has a landing spot that you
Speaker 1: do not like. But I don't see the problems. So
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in talking through Trey Harris with you.
Speaker 1: He goes in round two. He goes to the Chargers,
Speaker 1: a team that does need outside receiver help. And when
Speaker 1: we talked through Trey Harris, you you had some concerns
Speaker 1: that a lot of his production may have just been
Speaker 1: a byproduct by a first read passing scheme from Jackson
Speaker 1: Dart at ole Miss. But you also talked lovingly about,
Speaker 1: you know, some of his deep pass connections, some of
Speaker 1: some of his uh, some of his contested catches there,
Speaker 1: or things about Trey Harris that I remember you liking.
Speaker 1: So what is it about this that isn't clicking for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I it seems like I you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: sort of on Nyland with this take, But I don't
Speaker 3: love the landing spot here. You're on a team they
Speaker 3: have the couple projected starting boundary guys in Johnson and
Speaker 3: Mike Williams and I get that are not great, But
Speaker 3: first of all, you need to be beat out one
Speaker 3: of those two guys, which is no guarantee at the start,
Speaker 3: especially Trey Harris, when you came from that cotton cotton
Speaker 3: candy system with Lane Kiffen, where everything was was sort
Speaker 3: of manufactured for you and all the schematic garnish. It
Speaker 3: was done in order to free you for advantageous looks
Speaker 3: that that Jackson Dart would lock onto. All I could,
Speaker 3: I kid, I could, But Trey Harris, you have to
Speaker 3: beat out one of those guys. And if you do,
Speaker 3: now you're in an offense that is not a pass
Speaker 3: first offense. It's not a great aerial offense as is,
Speaker 3: and they don't do a bunch of cool stuff with
Speaker 3: their receivers. I do the downtown ability for Trey Harris,
Speaker 3: I do like that, and so if he can win
Speaker 3: a spot, you know, I think he's gonna get a
Speaker 3: couple of those downtown looks per game. But the rest
Speaker 3: of it, the volume just being in this Chargers offense,
Speaker 3: and and and Lad McConkie's is going to.
Speaker 4: Be your volume guy going forward. So those are my concerns.
Speaker 1: All right, that's that may end up proving to be fair.
Speaker 1: Mike Williams. I don't think this doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 1: I think I think getting past Mike Williams won't be
Speaker 1: that tough tough of an ask for Trey Harris. But
Speaker 1: I agree with you that opportunities are going to be
Speaker 1: going to be sparse, and that's that's going to be
Speaker 1: tricky at least at least in the near term for
Speaker 1: Trey Harris. Let's go to your last bad landing spot,
Speaker 1: guy tight end Mason Taylor who goes to the Jets,
Speaker 1: And this is another one where at first blush, you're like, well, okay,
Speaker 1: he's clearly looks like the best tight end on this team.
Speaker 1: This you know, there's Jeremy rutgert Stone smart landed there
Speaker 1: in free agency. But you don't love this landing spot?
Speaker 1: Is it because Justin Fields is the quarterback?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What is it that you don't love here?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Mostly? Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a bunch of scenarios that Mason Taylor,
Speaker 3: the team drafting him, he's going to immediately step in
Speaker 3: and is going to be the unchallenged starter.
Speaker 4: This this was one of them.
Speaker 3: So you know, I grant you he will be your
Speaker 3: your week one tight end that he's going to start
Speaker 3: as many games as he can stay healthy for. But
Speaker 3: the game of Mason Taylor, the thing that we saw
Speaker 3: at LSU with him as a receiver, and Mason Taylor,
Speaker 3: you know, part of the reason the NFL liked him.
Speaker 3: It's in addition to the bloodlines, of course, Jason Taylor
Speaker 3: son Zach Thomas's nephew, but it was he was a
Speaker 3: true inline guy. You can play him in line, but
Speaker 3: the passing element, the receiving element for him, a lot
Speaker 3: of timing concepts off of play action where it was
Speaker 3: these sort of timing routes and very short. Most of
Speaker 3: his collegiate touches. Most of his collegiate targets came within
Speaker 3: five yards of the line of scrimmage. They very rarely
Speaker 3: threw it to him down the field. And for a
Speaker 3: guy who got all these manufactured touches, Mason Taylor didn't
Speaker 3: break tackles.
Speaker 4: You didn't get a lot of yak out of him.
Speaker 3: Now you're going to play with Justin Fields who you
Speaker 3: know his time going back, he has not used tight
Speaker 3: ends very well and one of the one of the
Speaker 3: things that he struggles with it's those timing concepts short
Speaker 3: intermediate that Mason Taylor, that's the one thing he's shown
Speaker 3: us that he can do. So just as far as
Speaker 3: the receiving connection there, I just do not think that
Speaker 3: this was a good landing spuff for Mason.
Speaker 1: Taylor, working in his favor the dearth of other legitimate targets.
Speaker 1: They got no Wilson and nobody else, and and so
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Mason Taylor, just out of desperation finds
Speaker 1: his way to a few more a few more catches,
Speaker 1: but doesn't, like you said, in college, not necessarily an
Speaker 1: explosive player, and so you know that might ultimately cap
Speaker 1: his upside in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally agree with that, And maybe we could free
Speaker 3: some even more targets. We trade out on Lazard to Houston.
Speaker 3: They're looking for Iowa State psycholone receivers, so.
Speaker 4: We got to start that rumor of and.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. They drafted Arian Smith,
Speaker 1: who I really don't know very much about. Should I
Speaker 1: should I care about that Arian Smith?
Speaker 3: This is Aaron Smith is like their answer to their
Speaker 3: Devin Smith pick back in the day. You remember that
Speaker 3: the one out speed guy out of Ohio State that
Speaker 3: Jets took a white back guy was a first rounder,
Speaker 3: wasn't it. I think he was second, but yeah, they
Speaker 3: took him high. That's Arion Smith. It is a it's
Speaker 3: a one trick pony burner, but he has world class speed.
Speaker 3: He's ran in the four twos in the past. He
Speaker 3: had a lot of injuries in college. H during the
Speaker 3: pre draft process, it was in the four threes what
Speaker 3: he ran. But just a just an absolute burner. The
Speaker 3: thing that he needs to work on and he really
Speaker 3: needs to work on it. But there are skills there.
Speaker 3: It's it's the ball skills thing. He had too many
Speaker 3: flubs in college. If they can figure that out, you
Speaker 3: have something there. Because obviously the the athleticism is there.
Speaker 3: But a guy who was just crazy snake bitten throughout
Speaker 3: his Georgia career with injuries. Last year he finally stayed healthy.
Speaker 3: He was at the Senior Ball. He showed some stuff
Speaker 3: down the field at the Senior Bowl. But he needs
Speaker 3: to be more consistent with the ball skills. If he
Speaker 3: can be, then you can get on the field with
Speaker 3: your world class speed. But obviously, if they can't trust
Speaker 3: him to catch the ball, that's where that's going to
Speaker 3: fall off. But you mentioned that dearth of what there
Speaker 3: we got a boy, Allen Lazard is one of the
Speaker 3: projected starters, you know, battling with Josh Reynolds. I suppose
Speaker 3: maybe you kick one of those guys inside because Malachi
Speaker 3: Corley is there's no road going forward with Malachai Corps.
Speaker 3: I tried to warn everybody last year. I hope everyone
Speaker 3: out there listening to me. But Malachai Corley is not
Speaker 3: going to be doing stuff.
Speaker 4: For you're going forward.
Speaker 3: So you if you are airing Smith and you can
Speaker 3: clean up those bass skills, you could get on the
Speaker 3: field real quick here, But that is a bigger you know,
Speaker 3: if then it's not a minor thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I have been in lockstep on this
Speaker 1: since since I've known you. Guys whose college game was
Speaker 1: just really predicated on running fast vertical routes almost never
Speaker 1: pan out in the NFL. They can make those splash
Speaker 1: big plays you can get away with in college, but
Speaker 1: unless until you refine your route, tree, your footwork, and
Speaker 1: all the other fundamentals that come with the position. Just
Speaker 1: because you can run straight and run fast doesn't get
Speaker 1: it done in the NFL. Nine times out of ten
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 3: It's like your college pitcher and you can throw one
Speaker 3: hundred two miles an hour and you strike everyone out.
Speaker 4: But now all of a sudden you get to double
Speaker 4: a ball.
Speaker 3: You have to know how to throw a change up,
Speaker 3: and you have to have at least to get me
Speaker 3: by breaking ball, because if you can only throw really fast,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, people know what's coming.
Speaker 4: They're going to start hitting dinger after dinger on you, or.
Speaker 3: In this case here at NFL defensive backs just sitting
Speaker 3: dead red knowing you're going to go deep. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: have to be able to throw more things at them,
Speaker 3: even if it's just pass the ball, just to keep
Speaker 3: them off of Oh, he's going.
Speaker 4: To throw the heat again.
Speaker 1: Thorie, you have been an amazing workhorse for this show
Speaker 1: for the last two plus months. I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: give you a little time off. We're going to go
Speaker 1: back to our regular crew. Plus we're going to work
Speaker 1: in a new contributor, Kent Weirok, who is on the
Speaker 1: show one time, either a year ago maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit more than a year ago. He's a data scientist
Speaker 1: in real life, and he loves grinding up NFL data,
Speaker 1: and I think he's going to bring some fun new
Speaker 1: stuff to the show. We're going to start working and
Speaker 1: Kent and some other people and Thor. You, my man,
Speaker 1: you get to you get to relax. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: not already working like I don't. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see any like twenty twenty six projections out of you
Speaker 1: for a long time.
Speaker 4: That that's a deal. You might have to talk to
Speaker 4: our bosses.
Speaker 1: But that's a deal on my end. You've been fantastic.
Speaker 1: I hope everybody's enjoyed listening to the show. I know
Speaker 1: I haven't. We've learned so much about you and gotten
Speaker 1: us ready for this draft and super super excited about
Speaker 1: what's about how seeing how these rookies shake out and
Speaker 1: Thor we'll talk more down the road.
Speaker 4: My man, my man appreciates your charge.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Bye bye,