WEBVTT - Good Times, Bad Times for Rookies

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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<v Speaker 2>source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>here's your host, Paul Chargion.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Chargie and

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<v Speaker 1>my co host today is Thornystrom. Hey, buddy, Hey, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing. Oh God, it's been it's been pandemonium.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. I Normally I don't talk a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about myself or ourselves and our personal lives and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on the show, but Thor this is uh. As

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<v Speaker 1>some listeners know, I've decided to relocate from Minneapolis to

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<v Speaker 1>southern Utah. The drive down, I spent all of last

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<v Speaker 1>week driving down and pulling a camper behind me because

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<v Speaker 1>I own a camper. Had to get it down here,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was it was chaos, just chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>We got I got to Laramie, Wyoming and everything was

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<v Speaker 1>going okay at that point, but then high winds forced

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<v Speaker 1>me off the highways. They closed the highway and Laramie

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<v Speaker 1>and then I had to start making all of these

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<v Speaker 1>little I'm taking like little county roads for the next

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, five hundred miles to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go the direction I needed to go on these little

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<v Speaker 1>tiny roads, pulling this camper that's bouncing behind me. Ah man,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was crazy, Thor, but you made it.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to spend some time in Laramie. I hope

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<v Speaker 3>you paid homage to Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I did. I thought I thought it. When

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled into Laramy, I'm like, this is Josh Allen territory.

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<v Speaker 1>He owns this place, yes, and who could throw through

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<v Speaker 1>the winds of Laramie. J Josh Allen. Absolutely he could. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I'm in I'm I'm in this. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the house that we've moved to. But there's no furniture,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means every room's empty and they echo. All

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<v Speaker 1>the rooms echo. I've found one room with the echoes

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<v Speaker 1>not too bad, and that is in my closet, so

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<v Speaker 1>as you can, you can see listener's cat or I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm recording this from my closet right now. Try to

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<v Speaker 1>minimize echo because I'm an audio snob. Oh man, it looked.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, it looked like you were in a prison cell,

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<v Speaker 3>initially from from my vantage point, but I was happy

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<v Speaker 3>to learn that that it's a closet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a closet, yes, yes, And then compounding matters.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the last, the last major diversion I

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<v Speaker 1>will do before we jump into our actual topic today.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, the house next to me is being built

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and so there's construction and they're sawing and

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<v Speaker 1>pounding and hammering. So also this closet on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the house, so I wanted to get away

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<v Speaker 1>from that, so I was worried that was going to

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<v Speaker 1>leak through as well. So it's just, yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>absolute craziness over here. But glad that everybody joined us,

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<v Speaker 1>we're able to talk through the rest of the rounds

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<v Speaker 1>of the draft. Last week we did rounds, we did

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<v Speaker 1>round one, and we did all reactions. We had all

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<v Speaker 1>five of our guys. This week it is after round one.

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<v Speaker 1>I've asked you to give me some of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that you think found notable fantasy players who found themselves

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<v Speaker 1>into good spots and bad spots for and we've got

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<v Speaker 1>we've got about eleven ish guys to get through.

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<v Speaker 3>Excited to do it, Yeah, I mean We had some

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting ones talk to all spring about the historical

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<v Speaker 3>running back class. We got some running back rooms around

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL that got reshuffled after the draft, so and

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<v Speaker 3>some guys who fell into just bonanza landing spots.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm super excited to talk to you about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll do we'll do the good spots, we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>the bad spots. Good Times, Bad Times. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>good Times Bad Times was an absolute epic led Zeppelin song.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I asked, I asked you off air, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your all time favorite led Zeppelin song? And you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that I don't know the names of the song.

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<v Speaker 1>How can you not know? Stairwoid to happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean like I could tell you that the

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<v Speaker 3>top U d f A from Wyoming at that time

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<v Speaker 3>was was a kid named Eclair. Whyclai, I think my

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<v Speaker 3>brain space, that's where it goes to. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember names of songs and and other such things.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you gotta you gotta, I understand, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>jettisons for some extra memory if you're gonna if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna know all all the Laramie prospects. So yes, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. That's amazing. I I'm gonna by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>side note, I'm gonna go Cashmere. Even though it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the uh, it's not the best led Zeppelin song. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just my favorite led Zeppelin song. But it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>the one that uh where you're like, oh it's the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the best shredder they ever had, or

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<v Speaker 1>the best singing they ever had, or John Bonham's playing

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<v Speaker 1>the best drums. I just I just love that song.

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<v Speaker 4>It turns out that my favorite ones called the immigrant song.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, there you go. That's that's totally valid. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. That's a great song to bank. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a banger. Absolutely. Okay, let's roll up our sleeves on

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<v Speaker 1>some of the key players. Who let's start with the

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<v Speaker 1>good spots. We'll start. We'll start with the positive first.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that sound.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Quenchhn Judkins found itself himself in Cleveland, and Cleveland was

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<v Speaker 1>one of I thought the two most running back and

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<v Speaker 1>needy landing spots in this draft, along with Denver. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me about how you think quinch On Judkins will fit

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<v Speaker 1>into this scheme.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the bronze situation certainly was exactly how you described,

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<v Speaker 3>and they not only prioritize spending some real draft equity

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<v Speaker 3>on their new Belkoll quench On Judkins, I also believe

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<v Speaker 3>they got their passing down back later on in Dylan Samson,

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<v Speaker 3>so they can you know, this is something I advocated

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<v Speaker 3>other teams do during the NFL draft process, but basically

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<v Speaker 3>construct your backfield out of this historic running back class,

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<v Speaker 3>and Cleveland actually did it.

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<v Speaker 4>But Judkins, you step into that.

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<v Speaker 3>Bell, call bellcow roll right away, gonna He's gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>the usage that you're looking for In fantasy. The offense

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<v Speaker 3>might not be the best, but Quinjohn Jukins is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be getting all the touches around the goal line,

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<v Speaker 3>in the red zone, et cetera. And of course between

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<v Speaker 3>the twenties as a runner, Dylan Samson I believe is

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<v Speaker 3>the guy who, like I said, who is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the passing down guy. Quin John Judkins the one

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<v Speaker 3>slight nippick about his game. Didn't get to see as

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<v Speaker 3>much of him as a receiver dynamically in college, but

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<v Speaker 3>we know that he can handle heavy usage as as

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<v Speaker 3>the running back. So yeah, that's how I expected to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Quinn John Jenkins doing Quinnchhn Judkins things and then Dylan

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<v Speaker 3>Samson doing sort of a poor man Trevion Henderson.

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<v Speaker 1>You think Judkins starts week one for sure?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And not only that, I will I'll set the

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<v Speaker 3>over under it for his touches that we get twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're going to be giving him the ball all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. The quarterback room, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pick, Dylan Gabriel,

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<v Speaker 3>Shadeer Sanders, and Deshaun Watson. That team must run the ball. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the games, of course, could start getting away from him

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<v Speaker 3>when you know this fall people, and whether you're in

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<v Speaker 3>Redraft or where you're in Dynasty, you have quinchn Jukins

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<v Speaker 3>on your roster, there are gonna be matchups, I think

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<v Speaker 3>where you will have to consider sitting him. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>also gonna be smash ones, right because when the game

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<v Speaker 3>script starts to get away from from Cleveland, that's when

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna see Dylan Samson on the field as opposed

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<v Speaker 3>to Junkins when they're.

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<v Speaker 4>Just throwing throw and throwing.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, Junkins normal game scripts is going to get

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<v Speaker 3>all all the work he can handle.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's assume that Deshaun Watson gets cut released something not

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<v Speaker 1>on this team, But then they still have another quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Do you have who do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the next odd man out of a

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<v Speaker 1>five quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>Room?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting because you got the two veterans there. You

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't imagine they're gonna cut one of.

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<v Speaker 4>Those two guys.

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<v Speaker 3>But getting if I don't think they're gonna be able

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<v Speaker 3>to get Gabriel into their practice squad based on the

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<v Speaker 3>way the NFL treated uh Shdeer Sanders last weekend, they

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<v Speaker 3>have a shot at that.

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<v Speaker 4>But then if he's showing stuff or in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Preseason, yeah, then I don't know if you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to So that is going to be interesting

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<v Speaker 3>how they sort through those things.

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<v Speaker 4>Certainly not keeping four active quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean almost teams almost never keep four active quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>so that it seems like somebody's there's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>high profile cut out of that group. Let me mention

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<v Speaker 1>one guy that we're not going to talk about is

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<v Speaker 1>a bad landing spot guy. But because we're talking the Browns,

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<v Speaker 1>Harold Fannin gets logjam behind David and Joku, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a bummer for him at least short term.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And to get on the field at that point within

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<v Speaker 3>Djoko on this roster, it will require yanking off either

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<v Speaker 3>and Djoko or Deontay Johnson. Right like Fannin is the

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<v Speaker 3>twelve personnel guy where you have the inline dude and

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<v Speaker 3>then you move Fanning around. But to do that you

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<v Speaker 3>have to yank the slot receiver off the field. They

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<v Speaker 3>signed Deontay Johnson. I already see the Browns fans trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do the thing of oh, he's he's he's been

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<v Speaker 3>engaged this offseason and he's gonna have a rebound season,

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<v Speaker 3>all this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Harold fan and owners. You're almost rooting that Deontay Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>Has just totally checked out at this point, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he can get on the field more because and Joke, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>Fanning can't do the Djoku stuff as far as on

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<v Speaker 3>the line and then blocking defensive ends. So you almost

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<v Speaker 3>need both those guys on the field together when Fannin's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be on the field, because you won't have an

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<v Speaker 3>inline guy if Fannon's on the field and Joke who's not.

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<v Speaker 1>As mentioned earlier, Thor Denver was the other team that

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<v Speaker 1>I think was deeply well everybody thinks was deeply running

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<v Speaker 1>back needy. They landed art Jay Harvey, who to me

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<v Speaker 1>vaults also to the top of the depth chart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this this was my This is like the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>stock up. This was bonanza outcome everything. People who did

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<v Speaker 3>the drafts before the their fantasy drafts, before the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>drafts happened.

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<v Speaker 4>If you ran into RJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey on your dynasty team, congratulations, go Yeah, that asset

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<v Speaker 3>is worth a heck of a lot more today than

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<v Speaker 3>than it was before the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>I was one of the in church. You know this.

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<v Speaker 4>I was one of the most bullish people in the

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<v Speaker 4>entire meeting on RJ. Harvey.

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<v Speaker 3>I ended up with him at RB six. He was

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<v Speaker 3>close to my RB five, who was Quinn Shawn Jenkins.

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<v Speaker 4>I had r J. Harvey seventy five.

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<v Speaker 3>It turns out the one person who was more bullets

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<v Speaker 3>than me on r J Harvey with Sean Payton, and boy,

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<v Speaker 3>what a fit here as Sean Payton offense historically, that

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<v Speaker 3>is love throwing to the running back.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's number one.

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<v Speaker 3>You get the draft equity where you're stepping into the

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<v Speaker 3>bell call role immediately. It was a Wasteland at running

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<v Speaker 3>back there before, and the quarterback of that team is

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<v Speaker 3>one of our favorite screen guys in the NFL and

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<v Speaker 3>it is their bow Nicks.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean, like all this stuff is set up

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<v Speaker 4>for RJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey to be pounded both on the ground with usage

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<v Speaker 3>but also as a receiver and charge.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interazing. I was talking r J.

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey at the Senior Ball and asking him about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the things he wanted to show the NFL when he

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<v Speaker 3>was at that event in Mobile, and he was talking

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<v Speaker 3>about want to show more as a receiver, and I said, well, RJ,

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<v Speaker 3>you were one of two backs in this class that

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<v Speaker 3>at one point two five yards per route runner more

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<v Speaker 3>each of the last two seasons. And he kind of

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<v Speaker 3>chuckled and he's like, I he didn't know that. He

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<v Speaker 3>was telling me though, what what you know sort of

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<v Speaker 3>what frustrated him? And he was super nice about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But what frustrated him number one, And he said this

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<v Speaker 3>in an extremely nice way, but the quarterback play there

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't very good. And then they also were not sending

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<v Speaker 3>him down the field on routes pass the line of

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<v Speaker 3>scrimmage as certainly as much as he would have liked

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<v Speaker 3>the specific thing that he talked to me about. If

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<v Speaker 3>this was what I want to show the NFL is

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<v Speaker 3>winning pass the line of scrimmage on his route path

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<v Speaker 3>before the ball was thrown.

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<v Speaker 4>Because that was the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't think the UCFS offensive system allowed him to

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<v Speaker 3>do that much in mobile When you saw him matched

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<v Speaker 3>up those one on ones with outside linebackers with strong safeties,

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<v Speaker 3>he was breaking their ankles, every single one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody could stay with RJ. Harvey in space. And very

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<v Speaker 3>very skilled receiver. Keep in mind that production he had

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<v Speaker 3>as a receiver at UCF was in a bad passing

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<v Speaker 3>environment with an offensive scheme that wasn't allowing his entire

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<v Speaker 3>game to flower out. He is going to be an

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<v Speaker 3>incredible receiving back at the next level, and he's a

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<v Speaker 3>home run hitter. He has that bowling ball build five

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<v Speaker 3>eight two O five, but legitimate four four speed or

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<v Speaker 3>high four to three speed. He was ticked off he

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<v Speaker 3>ran the four four flat during the pre draft process.

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<v Speaker 3>He was running in the four threes during during his

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<v Speaker 3>pre draft process during the training leading.

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<v Speaker 4>Up to that. So r J. Harvey wheels up, wheels up.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you and I touched on him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever we started breaking down running backs over a month ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and you you brought him up and he wasn't somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who was very familiar with you. You talked about his

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<v Speaker 1>behind the line of scrimmage, lateral quickness, you talked about

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<v Speaker 1>his h his ability to break tackles, his elusiveness, and

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<v Speaker 1>now here you just spent all the time talking about

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<v Speaker 1>his pass catching ability. This just it feels like Harvey

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<v Speaker 1>is is sitting in a just a smash spot, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, and I I'm trying. I don't have I

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<v Speaker 1>have not started I haven't done my rankings yet. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think R. J. Harvey is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at like running back twelve fourteen something like that. Overall,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds that maybe I'm being out overly optimistic, but

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I haven't I haven't done any of those.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have to stack him, but I would be

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<v Speaker 3>bullish maybe even maybe even the back half of that

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<v Speaker 3>top ten. Okay, yeah, Like because as a rookie, I

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<v Speaker 3>just feel like he is going to get so many touches.

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<v Speaker 3>And again to give the draft equity that you did

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<v Speaker 3>there to spend the second round pick on r J.

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<v Speaker 4>Harvey prioritizing like that. Yeah, they clearly have that role

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<v Speaker 4>ready for him.

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<v Speaker 3>And Sempayton's going to spend the next four months just

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<v Speaker 3>drawing a plays on cocktail napkins for him, for like

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<v Speaker 3>the receiving concepts, different routes at r J.

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<v Speaker 4>Harvey's gonna run out of that backfield. They're gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of fun with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Al he sat on Sean Payton, sat on Alvin Kamara.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say about five games of his rookie

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<v Speaker 1>year and then just you know, gave in and Kamara

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome after that. It'll be interesting to see if

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<v Speaker 1>this takes zero games for Harvey to become the starter

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<v Speaker 1>or if it takes a little bit more time for

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton. But just the dearth of other talent on

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<v Speaker 1>the team suggests to me he's going to start right away.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go over to Caleb Johnson. You and I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot we texted during during an IOWA game

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<v Speaker 1>last fall about Caleb Johnson's pro prospects. He finds himself

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<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh and you like this landing spot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean another one that's really good. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously they bring.

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Warren is still there for another year, but Najre

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<v Speaker 3>Harris is gone and Caleb Johnson obviously has been acquired

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<v Speaker 3>to step into that Naja Harris role. Caleb Johnson is

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<v Speaker 3>better than Nase Harris. He gets the explosive runs. We've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about that about how he can manipulate the linebackers.

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<v Speaker 3>He runs through more open holes. That's how he's able

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<v Speaker 3>to access his high end speed. It's the slow acceleration,

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<v Speaker 3>but the high high end, top end speed for a

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and twenty five pounds back. And I forgot

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<v Speaker 3>if it was the Pittsburgh Steelers it took their color

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<v Speaker 3>scheme from the Iowa Hawkeys, or if.

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<v Speaker 4>It was vice versa.

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<v Speaker 3>But there is something in there and you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>wearing the same color in the pros love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenneth Gainwell found himself in Pittsburgh too, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Gainwell was coming up his best year, but Philadelphia didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like him enough to keep him, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's a major factor here. It'll be where Caleb Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>I still think Caleb Johnson's gonna be the power back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the goal line back for Pittsburgh. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Jalen Warren has you know, really ever been

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<v Speaker 1>that guy, and Kenneth Gainwell certainly isn't. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb Johnson could be a sneaky double digit touchdown guy

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<v Speaker 1>because he's just such a good power back.

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<v Speaker 3>And he talked about you know, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>guys do that Le'Veon when you talk to the running

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<v Speaker 3>backs in the pre draft process and you ask him

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<v Speaker 3>who they they pattern their games after, who they watched,

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<v Speaker 3>lots of them tosso Le'Veon Bell. Caleb Johnson did as well,

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<v Speaker 3>and for him it actually stuck like I would hear

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<v Speaker 3>like two hundred pump backs.

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<v Speaker 4>Being like, oh I run like Le'Veon, I love Levia.

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<v Speaker 3>For Caleb Johnson had actually made sense and good luck kid,

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<v Speaker 3>Now you get a shot to try to replicate his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrone Tracy was one of the big surprises of last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Giants ended up picking up Cam Scattabo, who

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<v Speaker 1>you and I both just love. Stylistically, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't watch camp Scatabo and not be just thrilled with

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<v Speaker 1>the way he plays football. They just don't make guys

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<v Speaker 1>like him. This Giants landing spot is really interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrone Tracy brings a lot to the table, but like

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<v Speaker 1>breaking tackles, powerback, goal line used, that's not his game.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where Cam Scatibo is in least theoretically, gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a big role with the Giants, don't you think.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you said it.

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<v Speaker 3>Finished number two in the FBS last year behind ash

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<v Speaker 3>and gent and Forrestmith's tackles, and they've got you got

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<v Speaker 3>the usage with him on the ground, heavy usage at

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona State, and then he also finished number two on

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<v Speaker 3>their team in receptions and very efficient type receiver and

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<v Speaker 3>then after that it's just the berserker thing. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 3>he's breaking tackles out there in the open field. Last year,

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<v Speaker 3>one point nine to two yards per run led all

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<v Speaker 3>backs in this class for Camp Scattaboy.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's a very like you were.

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<v Speaker 3>You were setting up a very good stylistic fit with

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<v Speaker 3>Tyrone Tracy's.

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<v Speaker 4>Game so that they're gonna mix and match those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, Scataboy is gonna get all that that high

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<v Speaker 3>leverage stuff inside the ten yard line, so he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>whatever touchdowns they can pile up, but a lot to

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<v Speaker 3>see their offense will be better than last year?

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<v Speaker 4>How much better can it be?

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<v Speaker 3>Their defense is certainly going to force a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>three and out so that that offense should at least

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<v Speaker 3>get possessions, and whenever they can get around the end zone,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be Cam Scataboy time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hard to if Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston is

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<v Speaker 1>as weird as it sounds. Their upgrades a quarterback huge

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<v Speaker 1>where from from where the Giants were last year? And

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<v Speaker 1>this offense is going to be better, And you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have some a lot more short fields to

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<v Speaker 1>work with, which is which is fantastic? I thought Drake

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<v Speaker 1>May last year was downright gallant playing for the Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>behind the league's worst offensive line and worst set of receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they addressed offensive line with a fourth pickover uh

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<v Speaker 1>fourth fourth pickover all in the draft, and then in

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<v Speaker 1>round three they drafted Kyle Williams to give a better

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<v Speaker 1>target for for Drake May. So let's break down Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Williams a little bit. I have to assume you love

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<v Speaker 1>the landing spot here because there's just so little competition

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<v Speaker 1>for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kyle Williams, he was a third round pick sixty ninth. Overall,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a better player than their high second round pick

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<v Speaker 3>last year, Jalen Polk, and we talked.

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<v Speaker 4>About that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I can say it, you can't. You absolutely nailed that

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<v Speaker 1>your concern on Jalen Polk. Now we're not saying he's

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<v Speaker 1>dead yet, right, And a lot of times, you know,

0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.600
<v Speaker 1>struggled people who struggled as a rookie will get better

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<v Speaker 1>in your two but you you gave us a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons for concern at this time last year over

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Polk, and it turned out that you know, his

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<v Speaker 1>rookie year suggested that you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the Patriots this selection here, it's it's somewhat

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<v Speaker 3>of an acknowledgment at that right like that, the running

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, the wide receiver room that you were talking

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<v Speaker 3>about in part was as bad as it was because

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<v Speaker 3>that miss pick. I think they hit this one though.

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle Williams one of the best release packages in this class.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the reason that he can play on the boundary

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<v Speaker 3>despite being a little bit smaller. He's a shade under

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<v Speaker 3>five to eleven hundred and ninety pounds, but you can't

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<v Speaker 3>get him off the line because of that release package.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he's really good at the route break as well,

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<v Speaker 3>the measurables.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The way I think of it is he always starts

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<v Speaker 3>out a rep with the head start because of the release,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the defensive back catches up to him during

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<v Speaker 3>the route stem, and then he pulls back ahead at

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<v Speaker 3>the route break and then creates the separation and opens

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<v Speaker 3>up the throwing windows. Drake May is really really going

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<v Speaker 3>to like working with Kyle Williams. And he's solid after

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<v Speaker 3>the catch too. He has good vision, he has good

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<v Speaker 3>acceleration and there's sort of a slipperiness to the way

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<v Speaker 3>that he runs as well. Very experienced. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>five year starter, three years at UNLV prior to going

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<v Speaker 3>to Wazoo, spent the one year with cam Ward and

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<v Speaker 3>then last year cam Woard obviously was off to Miami,

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<v Speaker 3>but Williams had the incredible season, last year's best statistical season.

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle Williams will be a Week one starter for New England.

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<v Speaker 3>He will be out there one of the three wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'll be curious to see how they do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I imagine it's going to be as a boundary receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>Although Kyle Williams has the versatility he played plenty in

0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.600
<v Speaker 3>the slot as well. But I think that this is

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<v Speaker 3>a boundary guy that might be the end for Matt

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<v Speaker 3>Collins as a projected start there and then he can

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<v Speaker 3>become the depth peats that he should be. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's how I think that's going to shake out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and step Diggs is a total question mark at

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.000
<v Speaker 1>this point thought for sure. Let's just say, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>between the ACL and the age, you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what, if anything, that that step On Diggs has

0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:37.159
<v Speaker 1>got left. So Kyle Williams a primo opportunity to, like

0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you said, be a week one starter and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially to have years together with Drake May. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you like me like what you saw from Drake May

0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.639
<v Speaker 1>last year, then you know, this could be somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>ends up being styling your Dynasty team for years to come.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go over to the last of the players that

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to discuss for good landing spots, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good one, Tyler Shuck. Who ends up

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<v Speaker 1>potentially talk about a guy who could be a week

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<v Speaker 1>one starter. Yeah, you know, right now we have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what Derek Carr's status is with his shoulder, and

0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.520
<v Speaker 1>for that matter, if he even wants to play for

0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the Saints, or the Saints even want they want him

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 1>there anymore. There's there's this thing is so murky and

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<v Speaker 1>they put, you know, a lot of draft equity into

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Shuck. So what do you think about his prospects

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<v Speaker 1>for starting soon?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the favorite outcome right now. It seems like

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<v Speaker 3>Derek Carr is not going to be active at the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning of the season. The weird stuff about the announcement

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<v Speaker 3>of that injury and the timing of it, and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get to the bottom of that over the next

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<v Speaker 3>couple of months what exactly was going on there, But

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that that happened and then immediately thereafter you

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<v Speaker 3>spend the fortieth overall pick on a twenty six year

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<v Speaker 3>old quarterback or a guy who's going to be twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six as a rookie. That was that was pretty telling

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<v Speaker 3>about I think the future of Derek Carr with the Saints.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, I think the odds are on.

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<v Speaker 3>Favorite outcome right now is that Tyler Schuck will be

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<v Speaker 3>the Week one starter. You know, Spencer Ratler and j

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<v Speaker 3>Cayner are the other two quarterbacks. On that roster, Tyler Shuck,

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<v Speaker 3>he is talented six foot five, two hundred twenty pounds

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<v Speaker 3>ninety seven percentile size of justed athlete, and he's got

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<v Speaker 3>arm talent.

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<v Speaker 4>My concern there, and I think we might have.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit on this in a past episode, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who didn't break out until his seventh season

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<v Speaker 3>in college. He had three consecutive seasons with it, were

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<v Speaker 3>wrecked by injuries at Texas Tech, and he flamed out

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<v Speaker 3>over three years at Oregon his last year. You get

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<v Speaker 3>into this, this statistically advantageous system for this underrated quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>whisper Jeff Brom, who sends quarterbacks to the NFL almost

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<v Speaker 3>every single year. I'm sorry, I've seen guys do that

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<v Speaker 3>over and over and over again. And Jeff Brom's system

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<v Speaker 3>him inoculating them from their weaknesses at their game, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>shine up shine. It off a little bit some of

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<v Speaker 3>the statistical production. I don't believe it from Tyler Shuck,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't see what upside is there for me.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a long term QB two. You keep them

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<v Speaker 3>there too. You address the durability concern just by not

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<v Speaker 3>having him out on the field. I think he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be stretched as a starter. But that being said,

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<v Speaker 3>he could not have asked for a better landing spot

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<v Speaker 3>because he's probably going to be one of two qbs

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<v Speaker 3>who was starting Week one this you know this come

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<v Speaker 3>in September, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So while we're on the Saints, let's just pivot

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<v Speaker 1>for a second on Devin Neil. You and I broke

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<v Speaker 1>down his game, like I said in that running Backs,

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.400
<v Speaker 1>running Backs episode that we did maybe six weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk Devin Neil for just a second. Because Alvin

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<v Speaker 1>Kamara can't have too much juice left tread on that tire.

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<v Speaker 1>Kendry Miller is just not even a factor here. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think, you know, Devin Neil is he's got he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a really well rounded game, and I felt like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on the right landing spot, he'd have an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to get some playing time. I liked him then.

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<v Speaker 1>I still I'm still optimistic about his game. He went

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<v Speaker 1>in around six, which I thought was maybe even a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good value there for me. What do you what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about this spot landings for Devin Neil

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<v Speaker 1>with the Saints.

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<v Speaker 3>That crazy steal in my opinion, the price point that

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<v Speaker 3>the Saints got Devin Neil, and we knew charge, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like with this again historically stacked running back class, we

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<v Speaker 3>knew that there was gonna guys, guys that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get shoved down the board, maybe a round and

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<v Speaker 3>a half, two rounds later than they would have gone

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<v Speaker 3>just the previous year.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the case with Devin Neil.

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<v Speaker 3>If Devin Neil had been in the crappy running back

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<v Speaker 3>class the year before round four and maybe he even

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<v Speaker 3>touches the back half a round three, but in this

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 3>stacked one, he ends up getting shoved down here. There

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<v Speaker 3>is nothing else on that that run in that running

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<v Speaker 3>back room outside of Alvin Kamara, Kendrey Miller. He'll be

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<v Speaker 3>happy if he has a job by week one. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if he makes it right camp. I agree,

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<v Speaker 3>Clyde Edwards, z Laire. He's just trying to hang in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL for as long as he can. Vias Jones, Junior,

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Mims, Xavian Valade.

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<v Speaker 4>What are we doing here? Devin Neil is the clear

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<v Speaker 4>RB two on this team and he is going to

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<v Speaker 4>get work this season.

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned the Kamara thing. You can't use him as

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<v Speaker 3>much as you sewer, he's gonna break down. And by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, if he does break down, it's Devin Neil time.

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<v Speaker 3>Devin Neil is your handcuff for for Alvin Kamara. Devin

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<v Speaker 3>Neil is a ridiculous value right now. In dynasty drafts, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>but even in redraft leads. I want Devin Neil on

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<v Speaker 3>my roster because I think that there's a real shot

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<v Speaker 3>this season that he gets bellcoll usage in a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of games.

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<v Speaker 4>All it takes is a Kamara injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't agree more? Couldn't agree more? Okay, we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. We're gonna identify five guys with landing spots

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't end up loving, including one the first guy

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about, Thor. I think you and I are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of on an island with this guy that we're

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<v Speaker 1>more nervous about this landing spot than other people are.

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<v Speaker 1>Find out who we're talking about when we return for

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<v Speaker 1>segment number two of Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back, Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Tarchie and Thorn Eistrom. You can check out all of

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<v Speaker 1>Thor's work at fantasylife dot com. What Thor, what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of work have you done post draft? With Fantasy life

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<v Speaker 1>so far.

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<v Speaker 3>I turned in eighteen thousand words the Saturday night the

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<v Speaker 3>draft got done on my draft grades, and that wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>even with my all my tables, with all my counts

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. But but but that's out there

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<v Speaker 3>if you have not checked out my Warren piece NFL

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<v Speaker 3>Draft grades.

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<v Speaker 4>Checked that out.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the current thing I'm working on that I

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<v Speaker 3>hope people like is my UDFA class rankings, where this

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<v Speaker 3>is I think my sixth or seventh year doing them.

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<v Speaker 4>That this is only for sikos, so only only sickles

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<v Speaker 4>apply for this one.

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<v Speaker 3>But I laboriously go through it's UDFA class and then

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<v Speaker 3>we end up ranking, and I have these metrics I've

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<v Speaker 3>come up with it for over the years to try

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<v Speaker 3>to quantify the UDFA classes and and in there I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be talking about, of course, some skill guys that I

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<v Speaker 3>think got into advantageous situations, have shot to crack the

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<v Speaker 3>roster and need to be kept on the radar for Dynasty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about the only person I think left who still

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<v Speaker 1>thinks Rimandre Stevenson's a good running back. I believe, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in him and feel like he has been squandered

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years behind a terrible offensive line,

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>bad quarterback play, lots of other things. Although you know

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>last year with Drake May was better, but still, you know,

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the whole team was terrible. I still think Ramandra Stevenson's

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>got some has got some good games left ahead of him.

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<v Speaker 1>But that ends up being the landing spot for Travion Henderson.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me what you tell me about how you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about that landing spot in particular.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's it's a really good landings for the team.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good because I think Ramondre is a really good

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 3>stylistic compliment to to Travion Henderson's game and vice versa.

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Ramandre's recalled the sixteen game run by the Ohio State

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Buckeyes to the National championship last year, Travion doing Travion things,

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 3>quinch On drunkins, doing quinch On Drunkins things. Ramondre Stevenson

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 3>will be playing the Quinchohn junkins as it were here.

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 3>But you know, and that's going to help Trivion stay healthy.

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, like we saw last year, over those sixteen games,

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 3>you are going to get access to.

0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Those explosive plays. Because of that.

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<v Speaker 3>He last he was better on a person out basis

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 3>than he had been the three previous years. I think

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 3>the way that they used him and keeping them fresh

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 3>in part told the story there. But that's what makes

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 3>this landing spot difficult. Because with with it's gonna be

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 3>a mediocre offense. Ramandri is gonna get that meat and

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 3>potato stuff. There's gonna be games where Travion pops off

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 3>because his game is hitting tingers. You get him into

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 3>the open field and he starts a racing angles. He

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 3>has a couple of those plays in one game. He's

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 3>gonna flip games. He's gonna be a DFS guy, a

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 3>guy where if you choose right at the right price

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.120
<v Speaker 3>point one week, he could bring you home a big

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 3>contest or help get you up there in the standings.

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 3>With it, it's gonna be difficult to know when it

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 3>for this guy. The streaming thing is gonna be even

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 3>more important. There's a bunch of running backs now in

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 3>this class that on a week two week basis, I

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 3>think I'm gonna prefer them over Travion. Travion is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be your up and down, more roller coaster guy, not

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 3>because of his game, but again because of the usage.

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Because of the situation because you're in a bad offense,

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be playing from from behind the whole bunch.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, because that wasn't the most ideal landing spot,

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<v Speaker 3>even though it's really good.

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 4>For the team.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Giddons is somebody that that we broke down again

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>when we talked running backs. I comped him to Robert Smith.

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>You comped him to Zach Sharbone. Upright, tall runner with

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>long loping strides, and those strides can just gobble up

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>yards really effective when when he's when he can get

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>up to speed and and especially north south. I thought

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot to like of his game, but

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>then he drops in Indianapolis and this is not a

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>great fantasy landing spot. When you're behind Jonathan Taylor.

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 3>This is this is a nightmare landing spot for DJ giins. I.

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I like DJ Giddens's game a lot, and the situation

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 3>that I wanted to see him get in was with

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 3>a team that had a good receiving back but needed

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 3>more of the early down stuff, or or an aging

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 3>guy that's a good receiver, and maybe then Giddens could

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 3>take some of his early down work. The Saints would

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 3>have been a great situation for him, right, like something

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>like that, this is the horrible one because you have

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 3>one of the NFL's best early downbacks that you're stuck

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 3>behind the one spot that Colts could use. And this

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 3>is why this selection. At a value standpoint, this was

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 3>a smash. So I tip my hat to the Colts

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 3>on that. But the stylistic thing, that's where I sort

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 3>of scratched my head because the Colts needed a pass

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 3>down back and DJ Giddens is not that at this point.

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 3>He's one of the worst pass blocking running backs in

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 3>this in this past class was horrible at it. And

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 3>then the receiving is it's very inconsistent. I've seen some

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 3>flashes from him that I really like. I have also

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 3>seen him flub way more easy balls than analogous running backs,

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 3>and so it's one of those things that he needs

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 3>polish on that to be on the field when he's

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 3>getting thrown to, and you cannot have him on the

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 3>field when he is protecting your quarterback because someone's going

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 3>to get decapitated.

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 4>Right. So it's that's why I as long as Jonathan

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 4>Taylor is on, Jonathan Taylor is just a better version

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 4>of this. So for DJ Giddens.

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 3>This was just a bad spot, Like you're going to

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 3>be stuck behind him as the backup, sort of early

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 3>down guy for the next several years.

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to your next guy that with

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the landing spot. You do not love thor that's Jayalen Noel,

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>who is a player we both liked a lot, and

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I was really excited to see where he could drop

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>in and as especially as a as a as a

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>mostly slot receiver. I was looking for a spot for

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>a team that needed slot help. He lands with Houston,

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>but they just acquired Christian Kirk, So it feels like,

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>at least in the short term, Jaylen Nowell's a little

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>bit log jammed with the Texans.

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 3>I did find it funny that the Texans took Jayden

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Higgins and Noel, of course, the dominant teammates from the

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 3>Iowa State Cyclones, when they already had Xavier Hutchinson in

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 3>the receiving room. Who was the last really good receiver

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 3>for that they need to go out and trade for

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Allen Wizard.

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 4>Now, let's just construct the whole thing out of Iowa

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 4>State Cyclists. Maybe they could sign Hockey Butler. I think

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 4>he's still a three free agent, so we can get

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 4>the BAM bag together.

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, it is playing last scene playing tight end.

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 4>I think I still believe charge.

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm Scully and Moulder from the X Files

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 3>with Hockey Butler.

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you're not the only one. I was when

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>when when he came out, I saw this, this big

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>lanky receiver who won all these contested catches downfield, and

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh man, this this looks really promising. And

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I was excited for that guy. And then in the

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>draft he got punished and he went way. I'm trying

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>to remember which team drafted.

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 4>Him, but never day three, I believe Clifton.

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, that's exactly right. And then basically just never

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>hit the field, and I think he got hurt and

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>then converted to tight end and it was all over.

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Experience is our is our best teacher, church, and mistakes

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 3>even even more so. And Johnny Wilson in the last

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 3>class was the pointing spider Man gift of Hockey Butler.

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 4>Back in the day, I.

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Would have been I would have been all about Johnny Wilson,

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 3>but I ended up ranking him around where he went

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 3>in that draft class. But this we're sort we're sort

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 3>of having fun with the Houston Texans' wide receiver room,

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 3>but in all honesty, it is a mess. It's this

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 3>this quagmire, and that's why Noel here. It could have

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 3>either been Noel or Higgins. I just don't know how

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna shake out. The for sure thing we know,

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 3>of course, one of the boundaries we got Nico Collins

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Christian Kirk, is he gonna play in the slot. That's

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 3>what I'm guessing as well. And that's why my supposition

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 3>is that Noel's college teammate Higgins is going to be

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 3>the other starting boundary, and then you're you're stuck behind

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 3>that in year one. Then Tank Dell comes back from injury.

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Now your long term situation for jaln Noel is complicated

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 3>as well, getting Tank Dell in the slot.

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 4>So I didn't love that. Like Noel, there was a.

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Whole bunch of situations around the NFL. I thought, if

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 3>he went there, you're an immediate starter and you will

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 3>be for a long time. Like the Raiders are a

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 3>good example, Jack besh Right.

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 4>They took Jack.

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 3>The Raiders had zero at slot receiver before the draft,

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 3>and so but there was a whole bunch of teams

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 3>like this, Noel finds himself in this quagmire of a

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 3>situation again, really like his game, and hilariously enough charts

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, on my five hundred player board, as you know,

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 3>I compote all.

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Five all five hundred.

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 4>My comfort, Jalen Noel, this is art imitating life. Was

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Christian Kirk?

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Shut up?

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 4>It was starting God.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's fantastic, that's fantastic, tricky landing spot. But if

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you ask me, is Christian Kirk on this roster next year?

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>The answer is no. Noel is the starter in the slot.

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>And that is a you know, I think long after

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>this year, Jalen Noel will be a starter in what's

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you know with obviously a in a very potentially very

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>good offense with a very good charge.

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 4>In that case, what happens to Tank Dell? Right, because

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 4>you have Higgs took top of this.

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Tank plays again. Oh wow, Okay, I

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>hope I'm wrong. I mean, obviously I hope I'm wrong.

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean this is you know, the the series of

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.439
<v Speaker 1>cascading injuries that he suffered, all all in one play

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.479
<v Speaker 1>are about as severe as anything that we've seen before.

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.919
<v Speaker 1>So in my mind. If Tank Dell ever plays again,

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it's all just a bonus. I hope I'm wrong. I

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>hope I'm wrong. Let's go to your Let's go to

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>your next player that has a landing spot that you

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>do not like. But I don't see the problems. So

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm really interested in talking through Trey Harris with you.

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 1>He goes in round two. He goes to the Chargers,

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a team that does need outside receiver help. And when

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>we talked through Trey Harris, you you had some concerns

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of his production may have just been

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a byproduct by a first read passing scheme from Jackson

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Dart at ole Miss. But you also talked lovingly about,

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, some of his deep pass connections, some of

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>some of his uh, some of his contested catches there,

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>or things about Trey Harris that I remember you liking.

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>So what is it about this that isn't clicking for you?

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I it seems like I you know, I'm I'm

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 3>sort of on Nyland with this take, But I don't

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 3>love the landing spot here. You're on a team they

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 3>have the couple projected starting boundary guys in Johnson and

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Mike Williams and I get that are not great, But

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 3>first of all, you need to be beat out one

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 3>of those two guys, which is no guarantee at the start,

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 3>especially Trey Harris, when you came from that cotton cotton

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 3>candy system with Lane Kiffen, where everything was was sort

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 3>of manufactured for you and all the schematic garnish. It

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 3>was done in order to free you for advantageous looks

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.919
<v Speaker 3>that that Jackson Dart would lock onto. All I could,

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 3>I kid, I could, But Trey Harris, you have to

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:27.800
<v Speaker 3>beat out one of those guys. And if you do,

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.479
<v Speaker 3>now you're in an offense that is not a pass

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 3>first offense. It's not a great aerial offense as is,

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 3>and they don't do a bunch of cool stuff with

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 3>their receivers. I do the downtown ability for Trey Harris,

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 3>I do like that, and so if he can win

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 3>a spot, you know, I think he's gonna get a

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 3>couple of those downtown looks per game. But the rest

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 3>of it, the volume just being in this Chargers offense,

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and and and Lad McConkie's is going to.

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.240
<v Speaker 4>Be your volume guy going forward. So those are my concerns.

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, that's that may end up proving to be fair.

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Mike Williams. I don't think this doesn't do it for me.

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I think getting past Mike Williams won't be

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that tough tough of an ask for Trey Harris. But

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you that opportunities are going to be

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be sparse, and that's that's going to be

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>tricky at least at least in the near term for

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Trey Harris. Let's go to your last bad landing spot,

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 1>guy tight end Mason Taylor who goes to the Jets,

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:25.280
<v Speaker 1>And this is another one where at first blush, you're like, well, okay,

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 1>he's clearly looks like the best tight end on this team.

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>This you know, there's Jeremy rutgert Stone smart landed there

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>in free agency. But you don't love this landing spot?

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Is it because Justin Fields is the quarterback?

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>What is it that you don't love here?

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Mostly? Yeah.

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, there was a bunch of scenarios that Mason Taylor,

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 3>the team drafting him, he's going to immediately step in

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 3>and is going to be the unchallenged starter.

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 4>This this was one of them.

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I grant you he will be your

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 3>your week one tight end that he's going to start

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 3>as many games as he can stay healthy for. But

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 3>the game of Mason Taylor, the thing that we saw

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 3>at LSU with him as a receiver, and Mason Taylor,

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, part of the reason the NFL liked him.

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.720
<v Speaker 3>It's in addition to the bloodlines, of course, Jason Taylor

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 3>son Zach Thomas's nephew, but it was he was a

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 3>true inline guy. You can play him in line, but

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 3>the passing element, the receiving element for him, a lot

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 3>of timing concepts off of play action where it was

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 3>these sort of timing routes and very short. Most of

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 3>his collegiate touches. Most of his collegiate targets came within

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 3>five yards of the line of scrimmage. They very rarely

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 3>threw it to him down the field. And for a

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 3>guy who got all these manufactured touches, Mason Taylor didn't

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:41.280
<v Speaker 3>break tackles.

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:42.879
<v Speaker 4>You didn't get a lot of yak out of him.

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 3>Now you're going to play with Justin Fields who you

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 3>know his time going back, he has not used tight

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 3>ends very well and one of the one of the

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 3>things that he struggles with it's those timing concepts short

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 3>intermediate that Mason Taylor, that's the one thing he's shown

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 3>us that he can do. So just as far as

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 3>the receiving connection there, I just do not think that

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 3>this was a good landing spuff for Mason.

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Taylor, working in his favor the dearth of other legitimate targets.

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:18.320
<v Speaker 1>They got no Wilson and nobody else, and and so

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe Mason Taylor, just out of desperation finds

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>his way to a few more a few more catches,

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>but doesn't, like you said, in college, not necessarily an

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>explosive player, and so you know that might ultimately cap

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>his upside in the NFL.

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally agree with that, And maybe we could free

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 3>some even more targets. We trade out on Lazard to Houston.

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 3>They're looking for Iowa State psycholone receivers, so.

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 4>We got to start that rumor of and.

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it. They drafted Arian Smith,

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:51.800
<v Speaker 1>who I really don't know very much about. Should I

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.280
<v Speaker 1>should I care about that Arian Smith?

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 3>This is Aaron Smith is like their answer to their

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Devin Smith pick back in the day. You remember that

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 3>the one out speed guy out of Ohio State that

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.720
<v Speaker 3>Jets took a white back guy was a first rounder,

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 3>wasn't it. I think he was second, but yeah, they

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 3>took him high. That's Arion Smith. It is a it's

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 3>a one trick pony burner, but he has world class speed.

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 3>He's ran in the four twos in the past. He

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 3>had a lot of injuries in college. H during the

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 3>pre draft process, it was in the four threes what

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 3>he ran. But just a just an absolute burner. The

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 3>thing that he needs to work on and he really

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 3>needs to work on it. But there are skills there.

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 3>It's it's the ball skills thing. He had too many

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 3>flubs in college. If they can figure that out, you

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 3>have something there. Because obviously the the athleticism is there.

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 3>But a guy who was just crazy snake bitten throughout

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 3>his Georgia career with injuries. Last year he finally stayed healthy.

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:46.840
<v Speaker 3>He was at the Senior Ball. He showed some stuff

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 3>down the field at the Senior Bowl. But he needs

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 3>to be more consistent with the ball skills. If he

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 3>can be, then you can get on the field with

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 3>your world class speed. But obviously, if they can't trust

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 3>him to catch the ball, that's where that's going to

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 3>fall off. But you mentioned that dearth of what there

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 3>we got a boy, Allen Lazard is one of the

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 3>projected starters, you know, battling with Josh Reynolds. I suppose

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.240
<v Speaker 3>maybe you kick one of those guys inside because Malachi

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Corley is there's no road going forward with Malachai Corps.

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.479
<v Speaker 3>I tried to warn everybody last year. I hope everyone

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 3>out there listening to me. But Malachai Corley is not

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 3>going to be doing stuff.

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 4>For you're going forward.

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 3>So you if you are airing Smith and you can

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 3>clean up those bass skills, you could get on the

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 3>field real quick here, But that is a bigger you know,

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 3>if then it's not a minor thing.

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you and I have been in lockstep on this

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 1>since since I've known you. Guys whose college game was

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>just really predicated on running fast vertical routes almost never

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>pan out in the NFL. They can make those splash

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 1>big plays you can get away with in college, but

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 1>unless until you refine your route, tree, your footwork, and

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 1>all the other fundamentals that come with the position. Just

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>because you can run straight and run fast doesn't get

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it done in the NFL. Nine times out of ten

0:41:58.800 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>that's right.

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 3>It's like your college pitcher and you can throw one

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 3>hundred two miles an hour and you strike everyone out.

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:06.320
<v Speaker 4>But now all of a sudden you get to double

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 4>a ball.

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 3>You have to know how to throw a change up,

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 3>and you have to have at least to get me

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 3>by breaking ball, because if you can only throw really fast,

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, people know what's coming.

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 4>They're going to start hitting dinger after dinger on you, or.

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 3>In this case here at NFL defensive backs just sitting

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 3>dead red knowing you're going to go deep. Yeah, you

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 3>have to be able to throw more things at them,

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 3>even if it's just pass the ball, just to keep

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<v Speaker 3>them off of Oh, he's going.

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<v Speaker 4>To throw the heat again.

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<v Speaker 1>Thorie, you have been an amazing workhorse for this show

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<v Speaker 1>for the last two plus months. I think we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you a little time off. We're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to our regular crew. Plus we're going to work

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<v Speaker 1>in a new contributor, Kent Weirok, who is on the

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<v Speaker 1>show one time, either a year ago maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more than a year ago. He's a data scientist

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<v Speaker 1>in real life, and he loves grinding up NFL data,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's going to bring some fun new

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to the show. We're going to start working and

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<v Speaker 1>Kent and some other people and Thor. You, my man,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to you get to relax. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not already working like I don't. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see any like twenty twenty six projections out of you

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>That that's a deal. You might have to talk to

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<v Speaker 4>our bosses.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a deal on my end. You've been fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope everybody's enjoyed listening to the show. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. We've learned so much about you and gotten

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<v Speaker 1>us ready for this draft and super super excited about

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<v Speaker 1>what's about how seeing how these rookies shake out and

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<v Speaker 1>Thor we'll talk more down the road.

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<v Speaker 4>My man, my man appreciates your charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Bye bye,