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Speaker 1: You're listening to sports beat down City in game four

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Speaker 1: and maybe not the team that you expected.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in just a minute. Here we

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Speaker 1: are broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios. Hope

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Speaker 1: you're enjoying your Saturday here. Good morning, gentlemen. As the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks awoken, right, is that right? They awoken last

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Speaker 1: night to the tune of a thirty eight point beatdown

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Speaker 1: of the Boston Celtics. I mean, it's not shocking that

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Speaker 1: Dallas won a game and Boston again guilty. We've seen

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Speaker 1: this before in the playoffs where they just sort of

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Speaker 1: sleep walk. They don't bring the same force and same

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Speaker 1: energy as their opponent, but they got worked by thirty

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Speaker 1: eight points. Good lord. The question becomes, we don't think

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a series, and Dallas has a

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Speaker 1: realistic chance of winning, but can they force a game six?

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Speaker 1: Do you see this series shifting back to Dallas after

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Speaker 1: Monday in Boston?

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Speaker 2: No? And here's the reason why. And I know when

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Speaker 2: a blowout occurs, everybody starts looking at the tail of

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Speaker 2: the tape a little bit differently in these series, and

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Speaker 2: I understand why, because if things were even if everybody

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Speaker 2: was putting forth the same effort that they were in

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Speaker 2: Game one, two and three, and I'm talking about on

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Speaker 2: you know, the Boston Celtics side. Then this would be

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Speaker 2: enormously concerning for Boston. But that's not what happens when

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Speaker 2: you're getting blown out in the NBA, you know, because look,

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Speaker 2: it's not urgent. It just isn't when you have a

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Speaker 2: one and done playoff situation where you're down what was it,

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Speaker 2: twenty seven three, twenty eight three, the Brady come back

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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl, where something looks so desperate that

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Speaker 2: you would say, well, there's no way the Falcon lose

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Speaker 2: this game. But you have to keep hope alive and

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Speaker 2: you have to keep fighting, you have to keep digging

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Speaker 2: yourself out of that hole because you only get one

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Speaker 2: game in the NFL. Well, the problem with the NBA,

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Speaker 2: and it's been something that I've talked about many times

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Speaker 2: over the years, is you don't just get one game.

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Speaker 2: There is a lack of urgency. This is a part

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Speaker 2: of a series. And so you can have a team

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Speaker 2: lose by fifty points and it doesn't really matter because

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Speaker 2: guess what, they can wake up Monday morning and they

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Speaker 2: can close out this series against the MAVs, and they

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Speaker 2: could blow them out. It's as simple as that, you know,

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Speaker 2: so don't based on one game alone where Luka Doncic

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Speaker 2: capable of doing that. It was the best game he's

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Speaker 2: played arguably all playoffs long. And you post up the

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Speaker 2: sort of numbers that they did against Boston, I think

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Speaker 2: Boston kind of rolled over in this one. I just

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Speaker 2: don't think that they play like themselves. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that this team. I don't think it's necessarily a sign

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Speaker 2: of things to come, but I don't think this team

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Speaker 2: looked like themselves at all. And I think they kind

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Speaker 2: of knew, Hey, with three games cushion, if we if

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Speaker 2: we lose one here on the road to Dallas, is

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Speaker 2: it the worst thing in the world. And answer is no,

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Speaker 2: it's not. So I think that attitude, unfortunately for Joe

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Speaker 2: Missoula and the franchise in the organization, it proliferated the

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Speaker 2: locker room and the results are the results. But I

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Speaker 2: think it was that lack of urgency that created such

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Speaker 2: a lopsided blowout.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why they call it a gentleman sweep, right, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 3: very gentlemanly.

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Speaker 1: Last night, Dallas showed that they are part of the

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Speaker 1: part of the conversation. They have a seat at the table.

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Speaker 3: But it's like when you go to Thanksgiving dinner and

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Speaker 3: like you get the worst seat, right, Like.

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Speaker 1: You finally you know you're not a kid anymore.

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Speaker 3: You get to sit at the table, but you have

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Speaker 3: next to the uncle who, like you know, might talk

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Speaker 3: your ear off for like three hours about something stupid, but.

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Speaker 1: You still get the seat at the table.

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Speaker 3: We get to talk about this for another two days.

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Speaker 3: Number in game five looks hair shaded towards Dallas, like

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Speaker 3: we were seeing seven seven and a half's for games.

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Speaker 1: One and two.

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Speaker 3: Now we are on the other side of let's be honest,

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Speaker 3: the key number, right, We've seen this series land seven

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Speaker 3: and that's kind of where the number opened for.

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Speaker 1: And we get two.

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Speaker 3: Days off too, so we get the extra day, which

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Speaker 3: we all love, right, we get to extend and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that's why, Honestly, I think that's why I was

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Speaker 1: Wanting to extend the season. A couple of days. There

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Speaker 1: on social media just you know, I no one wants

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Speaker 1: to bet Dallas today. Wouldn't be shocked if they ended

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Speaker 1: up playing well. But this is what Boston was.

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Speaker 3: This is why I didn't think they were gonna sweep

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Speaker 3: the series is still alive and Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Technically still has a chance to come back.

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Speaker 3: If they're able to figure out a way to pull

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Speaker 3: to rise. So I think Boston and this could be

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Speaker 3: an interesting angle for Game five. I think Boston comes

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Speaker 3: Game five is gonna be very intriguing. If Dallas is

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Speaker 2: Even if they.

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Speaker 3: Don't win it, even if it's just a close game

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Speaker 3: But the longer they're in it, that's when the belief

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen often.

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Speaker 3: But they came back and they won that Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: We're kind of still in twenty eight three mode right now.

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Speaker 3: They haven't even gotten off the deck yet. Frankly, I

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Speaker 3: And if they're in it in game five and it's close,

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Speaker 3: I'll start to believe that Dallas can come back and

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, over the years, you see this time and

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Speaker 1: talking about, the power of embarrassment is a real thing,

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Speaker 1: and you saw that last night. Dallas got punked the

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Speaker 1: first three games. They're down three games to none. Brian

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Speaker 1: and Dallas lost that game and they're down three to

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Speaker 1: His defensive performance is unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: He is a hole on the court. The Celtics are

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Speaker 4: They are ahead in this series because they have attacked

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Speaker 1: Okay, when someone says you're a hole on the court, wow,

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Speaker 1: which is true? Which is absolutely true? And everything that

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Speaker 1: Windhorst said about Dallas, where Luca's got to stop complaining

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Speaker 1: the extreme. Agree, he is the gold standard for whining

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Speaker 1: So for Windhors to call him out, Luca had to

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Speaker 1: do a sit down interview after that with Malika Andrews

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Speaker 1: of ESPN. How often do you see that we're a

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Speaker 1: yet Luca had to do that because the power of

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Speaker 1: So now the embarrassment shifts. You had Boston get punked.

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Speaker 1: They only scored eighty four points. That's a season low

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Speaker 1: regular season postseason. Think about that in the regular season,

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Speaker 1: punked in Game four. I expect Boston to come out

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Speaker 1: Game five. It is gonna be extremely uphill for Dallas

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Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty seven. And I know we've brought

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Speaker 2: you think about that, if the Mavericks even have a

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Speaker 2: Lary O'Brien Trophy, it is going to take something cataclysmic

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Speaker 2: because again it's not just the fact that you have

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Speaker 2: but also the fact that usually the reason why a

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Speaker 2: because they're not as good as their opponent. I think

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Speaker 2: that's pretty clear after watching four games and again as

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Speaker 2: yeah you can. You can have a blowout situation. But

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Speaker 2: I think because this game did didn't operate in a vacuum.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't one off. You know, hey it's it's win

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Speaker 2: You know where where the series is even and here

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Speaker 2: we go. Let's see. It felt like Boston rolled over

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Speaker 2: a little bit because they knew they had him in

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Speaker 2: in Boston on Monday, and so you can let one

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Speaker 2: It's like, hey, you know what, let's let him get one.

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Speaker 2: Is it gonna kill us if we if this series

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Speaker 2: goes on for one more game, that's that's the attitude

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Speaker 2: from Boston. And and to their credit, they're right now

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Speaker 2: they better finish this series otherwise they'll allow the Mavericks

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Speaker 2: to do something literally that's never been done before in

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Speaker 2: the history of the sport. But but that's the energy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be.

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Speaker 3: That'd be a fun like if we're still talking about

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Speaker 3: this yearies will we won't be because I think the

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Speaker 3: game When would Game seven be?

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Speaker 1: Would it be next Friday? I don't have the schedule

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Speaker 1: in front of me, but either the twenty third, So

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Speaker 1: let's see, so it would be it would be next Sunday.

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Speaker 1: That would be it would be the following Sunday.

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Speaker 3: So if we let's should we make a bet that

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Speaker 3: we're not talking about this series on next Saturday show?

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Speaker 1: Like, what are the odds that we get a Game seven?

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Speaker 1: You're right?

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Speaker 3: Game seven would be next Sunday, June twenty third. That

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Speaker 3: would be absolutely bananas, no, listen, I right? And I

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Speaker 2: promise you he believes fullheartedly that this is what's best

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Speaker 2: for the team. That if he is a fully actualized

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Speaker 2: human being walking into the locker room come game one

438
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Speaker 2: for you know, the twenty twenty four season with the

439
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Speaker 2: New York Jet, the better the Jets are gonna be.

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Speaker 2: And so this is something that's he's had on the calendar.

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Speaker 2: And whether he explained that to the Jets ahead of

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Speaker 2: time or not, okay, I mean that's between them and him.

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Speaker 2: I guess, you know, could they have moved the mini

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Speaker 2: camp dates around. Maybe do you really want to move

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Speaker 2: the dates around the calendar for one player and one

446
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Speaker 2: player alone? Maybe not. But I look at this as

447
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Speaker 2: being one of those things that you have to take

448
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Speaker 2: the good with the bad. The bad is, you know,

449
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Speaker 2: obviously at his age, there's a potential of injury, and

450
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Speaker 2: that proneness may grow over time, and we saw an

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Speaker 2: example of a freak injury last season. Now, I don't

452
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Speaker 2: think it matters how old you are. He would have

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Speaker 2: torn his achilles either way, you know, getting tackled the

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Speaker 2: way he was getting tackled, whether he was a thirty

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Speaker 2: year old quarterback or a quarterback nearing forty. But when

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Speaker 2: it comes to Aaron Rodgers specifically, you got to take

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Speaker 2: the good with the bad. If you consider bad, well,

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Speaker 2: there are gonna be times in the offseason he's unavailable

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Speaker 2: because he is globe trotting, finding trying to find the

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Speaker 2: reasons that we're all here on this planet, or a

461
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Speaker 2: UFO hunting or whatever the hell he needs to do.

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Speaker 2: Well that that then you got to take that bed

463
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Speaker 2: for the good play that you're you're promised or you're

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Speaker 2: hoping for. On the other side of all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's looking for sasquash.

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Speaker 3: Maybe do you guys want I'll give you the option here.

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Speaker 3: Do you want my Jets fandom opinion on this or

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Speaker 3: my unbiased and betting analyst opinion, unbiased, unbiased opinion. This

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Speaker 3: is a non story, complete, non story, nothing burger, and

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Speaker 3: we won't be talking about it in three months.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, in three weeks. The Jets fandom in.

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Speaker 3: Me is a little bit peeved, like just like, come on, man,

473
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Speaker 3: like it's one of those moments as a Jets fan. Now,

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Speaker 3: my Jets fandom, I would if I had to, like

475
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Speaker 3: allocate and how much of my brain these days is

476
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Speaker 3: dedicated towards being a Jets fan compared to being an

477
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Speaker 3: unbiased NFL analyst, I would estimate around a half percent,

478
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Speaker 3: maybe maybe three quarters of a percent. Like, I still

479
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: care about the Jets. I want them to win. When

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Speaker 3: they win, I'm happy, my family's happy. But they don't

481
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Speaker 3: have an impact on my life like they did when

482
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Speaker 3: I was a kid. This, what I'm doing now with you,

483
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: fine folks, is really the big impact of my life.

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Speaker 3: So let's look at it from that perspective. I'll read

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Speaker 3: you a tweet from the best player on the Jets

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Speaker 3: besides Aaron Rodgers Sauce Gardner.

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Speaker 1: And this is from two days ago.

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Speaker 3: Are y'all really making a big deal because of a

489
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Speaker 3: fifteen plus year Hall of Fame quarterback miss two days

490
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Speaker 3: of practice after being with the team all throughout days one, two, three,

491
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Speaker 3: and OTAs. I think that's kind of the reasonable approach here.

492
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Speaker 3: And that's how I feel about the big picture of this.

493
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Speaker 3: Here's the micro from an analyst perspective that I really

494
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 3: dislike Robert Sala just needs to like not be in

495
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Speaker 3: front of a microphone for the rest of like the summer.

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Speaker 1: Like I know that's not gonna happen, but he made

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Speaker 1: it worse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like like he did.

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Speaker 8: That's this is a So if we're really being honest.

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Speaker 3: About what the Jets are, Robert sal is not in

501
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Speaker 3: the position of power here. It's Aaron Rodgers. I'm not

502
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Speaker 3: saying he's the head coach. I'm not saying he makes

503
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Speaker 3: decisions like a head coach. But when push comes to

504
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Speaker 3: shove at the end of the day, the buck stops

505
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Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers. If he says he needs something or

506
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Speaker 3: this has to happen, it's going to happen. And I

507
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Speaker 3: think Robert sal is kind of like still trying to

508
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Speaker 3: be the head coach when we all know that he

509
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Speaker 3: doesn't have the kind of power that Aaron does behind

510
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Speaker 3: the scenes. Like I just I think that's how I

511
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: feel about the Jets right now, like Aaron's in charge,

512
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Speaker 3: Like whatever you need, Aaron. Last year, it was go

513
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: out and get all these guys, but you know you

514
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 3: needed didn't work out, And I think that's why it's

515
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: not happening in that way this year. And I think,

516
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: you know, the Jets are going in a different direction

517
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Speaker 3: with some of their other players, their skill guys, and

518
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Speaker 3: I'm happy with that decision. But Robert made it like

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Speaker 3: he poured gasoline on the fire with that interview. We're

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Speaker 3: talking about the interview that he gave and we're quoting that.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, the kind of oh well, we

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: We talked to him and everything's great, but this is

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Speaker 3: this and to me, that interview made it worse. So

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with what happened, Like it's not my ideal

526
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Speaker 3: situation as a Jets fans, as an analyst, I think

527
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Speaker 3: you'd rather have Aaron at practice.

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Speaker 1: But this is not going to be a story in

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Speaker 1: two weeks. I'll tell you who is going to be

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Speaker 1: a story in two weeks, in two months, in two years,

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Speaker 1: in two decades. That would be Isaac Loewen Crawn. Okay,

532
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Speaker 1: and I could have gone two centuries as well. I

533
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Speaker 1: see the short change.

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Speaker 4: I see you've been checking out TMZ this morning, and

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Speaker 4: the answer is I have no comment.

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Speaker 2: Enough.

537
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 4: You gotta stop hanging out with Ornberger, is all I'm saying.

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00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, blowing too much pork shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Torching.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Those things really need to come with better instruction. Made

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Speaker 4: like to take this time to apologize to all the

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Speaker 4: local fire departments in the area and frankly all the.

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Speaker 2: Pork shoulder also.

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Speaker 4: Oah, man, I hate to see all that go to waste. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: Fellas and Game four of the NBA Finals on Friday night,

547
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 4: the Boston Celtics had a clenching opportunity go to waste

548
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Speaker 4: because the Dallas Mavericks blow them out by thirty eight

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Speaker 4: points one. Twenty two to eighty four is the third

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00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: largest blowout in Finals history. Boston still leaves the series

551
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Speaker 4: three games to one, with Game five on Monday at Boston.

552
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 4: Instead of me giving you details, I think it would

553
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: be better if instead I related the analysis of Magic

554
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Speaker 4: Johnson's tweets on Game four of the Finals, as he

555
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 4: posted quote, Dallas raised their intensity and played a lot

556
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: more physical on the defensive end. Luca and Kyrie played

557
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Speaker 4: like stars with twenty nine and twenty one points respectively.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what happens back in Boston

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00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: Monday night. Exclamation point unquote. Really anyway elsewhere? After Game four,

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Speaker 4: Charles Barkley had an announcement of his own.

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Speaker 10: You know, that's been a lot of noise around on

562
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Speaker 10: network the last few months, and I just want to say,

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Speaker 10: I've talked to all the other networks, but I ain't

564
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Speaker 10: going nowhere other than TNT. But I have made the

565
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Speaker 10: decision myself, no matter what happens, next year is going

566
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Speaker 10: to be my last year on television.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, terrible news for basketball fans. After two rounds of

568
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Speaker 4: the US Open, Sweden's Ludwig o'bert has deleted five under

569
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Speaker 4: par overall, one shot ahead of Bryson to Shambo, Patrick

570
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Speaker 4: Cantley and Belgium's Thomas D. Tree. Baseball Friday Night Dodgers

571
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Speaker 4: over the Worlds four to three. Freddie Freeman to go

572
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Speaker 4: ahead RBI single on the bottom of the eighth inning,

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Speaker 4: Angels one in San Francisco eight to six Mariners over

574
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Speaker 4: the Texas Rangers three to two. Seattle is one fourteen

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Speaker 4: out of nineteen. Back to three. Guys, now, who are

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Speaker 4: the absolute opposite of torrible? All yours?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? I loove appreciate that it is terrible news.

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Speaker 1: With Charles going away, he's the best.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: right after we get off the air. Some bad news,

587
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: some bad news. This is the new way to negotiate

588
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: in sports in this day and age is if you're

589
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: in a contract dispute, just wipe all mention of your

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Speaker 1: team from social media. And that has happened with Clay Thompson,

591
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: one of the Splash Brothers. Clay Thompson has wiped all

592
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Speaker 1: things related to the Golden State Warriors from his IG account.

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Speaker 1: Does that not sound how? What much more twenty twenty four.

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00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Can you get than a player? This being Klay Thompson

595
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: scrubbing the Warriors from his ig and it's like, oh, okay,

596
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: the clubs are off right now. Now we're trying to

597
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: really come down to negotiating tactics over here. It's happened

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Speaker 1: many times, right, didn't Deebo Samuel do the same thing?

599
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: And he's looking for a deal in the Bay Area.

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Speaker 1: Has happened time and time again.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by it. But for Klay Thompson, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think new school with Clay, and

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Speaker 1: that's not a dis It's just been a great player

605
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: for so long. This is such a new school tactic

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Speaker 1: that when Clay does it, I'm like, oh no, they

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Speaker 1: got to Clay too. He's wiping the Warriors from his eye. Gee,

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Speaker 1: we can't do anything about this going forward? You know,

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Speaker 1: this is the new way?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It really does feel like it is kind of

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00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: an old dog learning new tricks and it feels weird. Right.

612
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: You know, you have a thirteen year old labrador you've

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00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: never seen roll over and all of a sudden he

614
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: comes home from the from from the aunt and uncle's

615
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: house who was watching it on a two week vacation,

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Speaker 2: and it can roll over for treats. Now You're like,

617
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Speaker 2: where did this come from? You know what I mean?

618
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: Like you're gonna break a hip, you know, like you're

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Speaker 2: not a young pup anymore. You can't you can't be

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Speaker 2: scrubbing your Instagram account. You're gonna break your hip looking

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Speaker 2: for that treat. Why don't we just slow down? Clay?

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Speaker 2: All right? Remember remember who you are, Remember what you've

623
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Speaker 2: done for this organization and what this organization has done

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Speaker 2: for you. And I get it. There was a little

625
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: bit of a blood letting a couple of years ago.

626
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 2: There's not as many familiar faces in the front office.

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00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: They're they're in a new home, you know, they recently

628
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: recently during his career, they move from Oakland to San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot new, there's a lot different, and

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Speaker 2: maybe also he's been treated differently because you know, he

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Speaker 2: hasn't been Klay Thompson. He hasn't been the splash brother

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Speaker 2: he was. And when you start doing the math and

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00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 2: you start thinking about, you know, can we let Clay

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Speaker 2: play for a different team? Is this going to be

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Speaker 2: a one and done career for Clay, Is it all

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Speaker 2: that important to the organization that he plays anywhere else?

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Speaker 2: I think the answer is, and he's probably feeling this well,

638
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: Steph's the priority. Let's make sure Steph doesn't play anywhere else.

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Speaker 2: And I think unfortunately for Klay Thompson, he's always played

640
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Speaker 2: step brother to Steph Curry in this organization. I'm not

641
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: saying he wasn't paid well and I'm not saying he

642
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: didn't get a lot of the acclaim because we know

643
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Speaker 2: Klay Thompson in the postseason and what He's still delivered

644
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: this team time and time and time again. But let's

645
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: be honest. This is Steph's team, and this is this

646
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: is very much, you know, the wingman potentially trying to

647
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: step into the spotlight or maybe trying to wring the

648
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: sponge one last time before his career ends. And this

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Speaker 2: is this is the technique or the tactic that he

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Speaker 2: wants to apply the pressure to the organization with. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but it does feel weird, going back to

652
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Speaker 2: your original point, Brian, like they got to Clay. He's

653
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: doing this now, scrubbing the Instagram account. It feels it

654
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: feels very strange that it's it's Klay Thompson and he's

655
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: doing it against the Golden State Wars.

656
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm okay with him doing that.

657
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 8: I think this is this is what they do, this

658
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 8: is what the kids do these days.

659
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: And Clay's thirty four. I mean, I'm thirty eight. It's

660
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: not exactly like he's not like a kid, but this

661
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: is this is what this is what I would probably do,

662
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: like put your I'm trying to put myself in these players' shoes.

663
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: Like they're frustrated they can't control, right, We always say

664
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: control what you can control. Can't really control the offer

665
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: that the Warriors make or the offers that other teams make,

666
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 3: And the one thing you can.

667
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: Control is who you follow on social media.

668
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: Like it's just it like it like that argument for

669
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 3: doing what Clay and a lot of other athletes have done,

670
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: it makes sense to me logically, like you can't control

671
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: anything else that's happening around you, but I can control

672
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: my social media timeline. I have direct control over that,

673
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: what I see, who I follow, et cetera, et cetera.

674
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna focus on that now.

675
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: Is it a short sighted, immature thing that you can control?

676
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, social media at its core.

677
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: Is the lowest common denominator of society. But that's what

678
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 3: it is, and that's the reality that we live in.

679
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: So I'm okay with with with him doing this and

680
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 3: and and I don't want to even call it acting out.

681
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 8: He's just kind of again controlling what he can control.

682
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: I think the question is going forward, how it impacts

683
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: the negotiation process, right, Like, I don't know if there

684
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 3: already is a conclusion and we're just kind of waiting

685
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: for the chips to fall. Maybe we're waiting for the

686
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: finals to end before we get an announcement. You know,

687
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: a lot of times players don't like to make unless

688
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: you're Alex Rodriguez, make those gigantic, big moves in the

689
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: middle of the finals. So I think that is where

690
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: my brain goes to first, is like we might already

691
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: know the end of this story. We're just waiting for

692
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: the you know, the final shoot to drop between Boston

693
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: and Dallas. But I think it makes sense for him

694
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: to leave if you think about what he's accomplished and

695
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: where the Warriors are as a franchise, Like, I mean,

696
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: he's been there, what thirteen years, It's a long time

697
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: to be with one franchise in professional sports. I mean

698
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 3: I can probably count on one hand in the last

699
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: decade the amount of NBA players that have been with

700
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: a team for thirteen years have there. I mean, who

701
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: other than maybe Steph on the other side, Like, there's

702
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: just not a lot of play.

703
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: Even Lebron, like he bounced around a bunch of teams.

704
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 3: So I think there's there's something to be said about

705
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: the longevity he's been there, and it wouldn't be a

706
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: surprising outcome if after thirteen years he moved on. But yeah,

707
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: social media stuff, eh, kids are kids, right.

708
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Speaker 1: That's Jared Smith FSR betting analyst rich Ornberger, Penn State,

709
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: All American with us here. I'm Brian No coming up next,

710
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Speaker 1: the Parley Platter. Okay, Jared Smith has been hard at work.

711
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Speaker 1: He will unveil his hard work for you next. It

712
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Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. It

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Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. Jared

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Speaker 1: Smith has been hard at work. Let's get to this.

715
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 6: Check this out, Harlay Flatter.

716
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Speaker 1: Okay, Jared, what do you have for us today? Buddy? Well,

717
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: we're gon doing something new today.

718
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: I try I've been dabbling with these in the lab

719
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: again the experiment. It's almost like, you know, you're trying

720
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: to put all the concoctions together and get the smoke

721
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: to be perfect. At Yeah, we're gonna try something today.

722
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 3: This is an SGP plus, all right, what is that mean? Well,

723
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: we know about what an SGP is, right, same game parlay.

724
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: This is an SGP plus. So we're gonna have a

725
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: same game parlay. We're gonna have a total in a

726
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: baseball game. We're gonna have a first five and a

727
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: full game total parlay. Parlay that together, and then we're

728
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: gonna add on a little extra on the side to

729
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: make our odds a little higher.

730
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: If you're gonna have to wait an extra day for it, it'll.

731
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Speaker 2: Be in the NBA game.

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00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: Actually wait two extra days for it. But I think

733
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: it'll be worth it at the end of the show,

734
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: at the end of the rainbow.

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00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: So let's get to it.

736
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: Let's start with the SGP portion before we get to

737
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: the plus. We're gonna isolate the Rangers Mariners game. This

738
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: game we played around four o'clock up Pacific today.

739
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: Really good pitching matchup.

740
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 3: You might hear a little bit more about it later

741
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: in the show. During rapid fire when we get to

742
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: the Europie Nerfe portion of the program. But I do

743
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: think this is going to be an under game. So

744
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 3: we're gonna take the first five under in Rangers Mariners.

745
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna parlay it with the full game under, kind

746
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: of like what we did last week with that wacky

747
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: London game, which probably should have stayed under the first

748
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: five total if Sean and I didn't have like meltdown

749
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: in the fourth inning.

750
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: But that's okay, we move on to this game.

751
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: Of all these been fantastic for Texas, Kirby's been fantastic

752
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: for Seattle. Again, not very high level analysis there. These

753
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: teams have been under teams the whole year. If you

754
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: can bind the unders for Texas and Seattle this year,

755
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: eighty three and fifty three on the season. In this

756
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: particular series, it has been a low scoring series, eight

757
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: one and one to the under in the last ten

758
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 3: meetings between the Rangers and the Mariners. Get a little weather

759
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: in Seattle tonight, it's like fifty degrees Chile in the

760
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: Pacific Northwest.

761
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: Feels like an undergame.

762
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: So we'll take the first five full game under Texas Seattle.

763
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: We'll put that to the side, the plus portion of

764
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: the parle. It's very simple, gentlemen. Celtics win on Monday night,

765
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 3: that's it. Celtics money line will PLoP that in there again.

766
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 3: You throw and smash these SGP plus legs together plus

767
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: two seventeen, which feels.

768
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: Like a bet.

769
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 3: Hey, I know it's not the juiciest bet out there,

770
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: but it feels like a bet that I'm gonna get

771
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: some value on because I think this Boston number.

772
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 8: As we get to Monday, you will see.

773
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: Some hand'll come in on the Celtics, and I think

774
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: this number will close north of minus three hundred. So

775
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: first inning total Rangers Mariners under three and a half,

776
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: full game total Rangers Mariners under six and a half,

777
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: and the Celtics on the money line in Game five

778
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: plus two seventeen, the first ever SGP plus here on

779
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: the show.

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00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: Wow, I like it.

781
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: You know, combine different sports. You gotta feel very confident

782
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: about Boston just ending the game outright, that's the anchor

783
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: leg right.

784
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

785
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: So it's about the baseball stuff coming through today, yep,

786
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: and you're looking great.

787
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like unders in baseball. I was just looking

788
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: at this a little bit closer It's amazing how many

789
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: unders when you start doing same game parlays and things

790
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: like this or Nerfy's like, how many of the unders

791
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: actually do hit?

792
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: And you want to correlate them too, under first five,

793
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: higher chance at the full game stage on.

794
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, all right, come it up next. The cover

795
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: up makes the crime worse. A very interesting story that

796
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: we will hit on right around the corner. Ah, yes,

797
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: hope you're enjoying your Saturday morning here. Before we get

798
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: to a cover up and a crime in the world

799
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: of baseball, how about the US Open. We're about to

800
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: tee it up over here, right, Scotty Scheffler barely barely

801
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: making the cut, the world's number one golfer. What was

802
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: he plus four yesterday and just sneaks in at plus

803
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: five overall? No Tiger Woods, he didn't make the cut.

804
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: Anything that is of interest to you with the US

805
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Open so far?

806
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly waiting for the first arrest tradition at every major.

807
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 8: Carolina right or straight shooters down.

808
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: There at Louisville. He got arrested, and then what did

809
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: he shoot? Like a sixty six that day? I'm telling

810
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: you that the first two days maybe he would have

811
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: shot under goodness.

812
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lizen. Yeah, like golfers, it's different, right. You know,

813
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: you play basketball, you need to get into a three

814
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: to zero hole sometime for like for for Luca Docs

815
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: to show one of these golfers needs to be put

816
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: in silver bracelets this week to make a run at

817
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: the leader board. That's how it goes.

818
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like So. I was talking about this yesterday.

819
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: I was doing a Doug Golips podcast and we were

820
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: talking about a couple of the guys at the top.

821
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: I think the Oldberg kids really got the temperament to

822
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: win a major. I mean, he was second at the Masters,

823
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: he was in the Ryder Cup before he even competed

824
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: in a major. It's very rare for a young golfer

825
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: to make the Ryder Cup team before he even competes

826
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: in a major. So again, the temperament I think fits.

827
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: I like the Bryson story, though I'm kind of over

828
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: the Rory stuff. I know he was in the news

829
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 3: recently about you know, his divorce or not getting divorced

830
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 3: or whatever his personal life. Like, I think it's hard

831
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 3: to overcome distractions when you're golfing. Golfing such a mental sport,

832
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: so as much as I love Rory, and you know,

833
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: I know he's still seeking that that fifth major. He

834
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: hasn't it's been a while, But I think I think

835
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: the two guys at the top now, Bryson and and

836
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 3: and Oberg are are kind of the two picks to

837
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: click for me. Cantley's got the temperament too, but I

838
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: don't know something about his Sunday demeanor at a major.

839
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: I just he he hasn't gotten over the hump yet.

840
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: He hasn't really had that moment yet, whereas Bryson obviously had.

841
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: Multiple moments, and Oberg.

842
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: I think I think the main the Master's performance really

843
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: opened my eyes to his game, and those will be

844
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 3: my two picks right now if you want to get

845
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 3: some money down on the Open this weekend.

846
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting what Tiger was talking about,

847
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: just this being the catch twenty two stage of his career,

848
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: where he said, look, if I prepare as much as

849
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: I want to before a Major, my body might betray me.

850
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing. He's like, I might not be healthy enough

851
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: to compete in the tournament. So if I sort of

852
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: back off all the training, then I'm not as prepared

853
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: and I'm not as sharp, but I'm healthy to compete

854
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: in the tournament. So that's just where Tiger is at

855
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: this stage of his career. And missed the cut just

856
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: a couple of strokes off getting there. He didn't get

857
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: a hole in one on eighteen right to sneak in there.

858
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: That was amazing, right with the franchise, Yeah, Mulinari got

859
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: the hole in one on eighteen to barely make the

860
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: cuts wild actually, and you know how much money that

861
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: is for these guys.

862
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 8: Incredible amount of money a lot that shot wud absolutely.

863
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: You know, And just in terms of difficulty or a

864
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: degree of difficulty in terms of us opens, the course

865
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: set up, the length of the rough, the length of

866
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: the fair way, the greens are almost unfair, how they're pitched.

867
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: I think, the work that goes in by the USGA.

868
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: It used to drive me crazy. But now as I've

869
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: watched golf for a handful more years after first becoming

870
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: aware of it and really caring about it. When Tiger Woods,

871
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: you know, got on tour and started his run in

872
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: the nineties, I used to watch and I love to

873
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: see pros shoot way under part right, It used to

874
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: be amazing to see these pros do things that you know,

875
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 2: destroy courses that I would shoot, you know, one hundred

876
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: and ten on the they're out there, you know, shooting

877
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: is sixty six. But the reality of the USGA is

878
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: their goal, their stated goal on every US Open is

879
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: to have the winner shoot par and that means think

880
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: about what that means. That means the rest of the

881
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: field is over par, like the rest of the field

882
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: is in the plus. I think that's a really unique

883
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: part of this major that doesn't get spoken about a

884
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: lot because, look, the Masters is historic because of Augusta National.

885
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 2: It's just we've seen every single pro that you've fallen

886
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 2: in love with play at that course year in year out.

887
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: You know. The British Open or the Open Championship we

888
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: now call it, it has its charm because that's really

889
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 2: the cradle of golf, that's where it all started out there,

890
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 2: you know, in terms of the players or the PGA Championship.

891
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: I don't think it has the luster that even the

892
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: US Open has because of the amateur at aspect, but

893
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: mainly because the USGA does such a good job making

894
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: these courses difficult to the point where you'll have a

895
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: professional golfer sometimes finish up his first round or his

896
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: second round and say like it's unfair out there, like

897
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: what how are we supposed to compete? I remember about

898
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: it was it five years ago. I forget where they

899
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: were playing, but I remember listening to golfer after golfer

900
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: coming to the podium after his round, after he signed

901
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: his scorecard, going this course is unplayable, like somebody, something

902
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: needs to be done. And I think, like the greens

903
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: keeper after the game was like, yeah, maybe we should

904
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: just like water the course a little bit because it's

905
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: it's it's played a little dry out there. But that's

906
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: one aspect of the US Open every year that it

907
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: began to love more and more seeing golfers actually struggle.

908
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: It's something that you rarely see. Do you prefer that?

909
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 3: Then the twenty under I think a couple of weeks

910
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: ago is like twenty five under par or one of

911
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 3: these tournaments, and even the even at the PGA Championship

912
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: with Valhalla, what it was, I think twenty one under

913
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: was the winning score. You had three guys, Bryson was

914
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: twenty under, so I I, I don't know.

915
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 8: I kind of like letting these guys flex.

916
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 3: I think the best tournament for me is the ones

917
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: that are get gradually tougher as the tournament goes on,

918
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 3: and like Sunday is like the toughest day, it doesn't

919
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: always work out that way. Usually the pin placements have

920
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: a big impact on that. A lot of times the

921
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: Saturday pin placements can be the more devilish one. Right,

922
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 3: they call Saturday moving day. But Sunday to me, like,

923
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 3: I think there's something still pure about a golf major.

924
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 3: Whereas even though I'm not as big of a golf

925
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: fan as I used to be, Like I grew up

926
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: watching Tiger. That's one of the reasons that I really

927
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: started playing golf was I was ten years old in

928
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 3: ninety six when he won this first Masters, and I

929
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: was always gonna be into golf, but his rise really

930
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: accelerated my fandom. And it's weird watching him struggle now.

931
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 3: It's just like you know, father time, like it's just

932
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 3: going through the swings of life.

933
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: It'd be great to see him win another one. I

934
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: don't think he's going.

935
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 3: To maybe he'll maybe he'll compet it Augusta. I think

936
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: that's the only major he has a chance is the Masters.

937
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: But when I watch these guys on Sunday, I think

938
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: the biggest and this sounds really weird, but I think

939
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 3: the hardest sport to play is golf.

940
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 8: I think the hardest thing to do in sports is

941
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 8: hit a.

942
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 3: Baseball ninety five miles an hour coming at you with

943
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 3: a round ball, round bat.

944
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: But I think the.

945
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 3: Hardest sport day in day out because of the mental

946
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 3: grind it takes and there's no teammates. You're just out

947
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: there on your own. I think being like hitting a

948
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: golf ball three hundred yards straight and doing it again

949
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: and then again and then again and.

950
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: Then taking spin off it.

951
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: Like the way that these guys shape the ball and

952
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: like just how they it's it's incredible, like they are majestic.

953
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 3: We don't think of like golfers as these like majestic athletes.

954
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: It is when you go to a golf tournament and

955
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: watch them hit the ball the way they hit it,

956
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: it is ridiculous. And then you try to do it

957
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 3: and it's like, wait, what am I missing here? Because

958
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 3: like most people are like, yeah, they can make a

959
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 3: free throw, they can make a three point shot if

960
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: they got enough opportunities, nobody could do what these guys

961
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 3: do on the course.

962
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: It is.

963
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: It is majestic. If you want a good sweat, betting

964
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: these yes is a good way to agree. Oh my gosh, yeah,

965
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: because it can come down to yeah, if you're on

966
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: the under, literally a putt could lip out and that's

967
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: the difference of you miss it by one stroke or whatever.

968
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: Unlimited scenarios where you can do that on many of

969
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: the shops bet MGM has some of those available, so

970
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: shop around it. It's it can be pretty five like

971
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: hole by hole. See, I just that's just too random

972
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: to me. But yeah, I mean some people have a

973
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: better feel for it. But if you're looking for a

974
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: good sweat, that might be the way to go. Now

975
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: we get to the drama and the cover up here

976
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: real fast. So MLB has disciplined umpire Pat Hoberg for

977
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: violating the league's gambling rules. Now we don't have many details.

978
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: Maybe he was betting on round props for golf majors,

979
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: we don't know, but this is the statement from MLB quote.

980
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: During this year's spring training, Major League Baseball commenced an

981
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: investigation regarding a potential violation of MLB's sports betting policies

982
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: by umpire Pat Hoberg. Mister Hoburg was removed from the

983
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: field during the pendency of that investigation. While MLB's investigation

984
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: did not find any evidence that games worked by mister

985
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: Hoburg were compromised or manipulated in any way, MLB determined

986
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: that discipline was warranted. Mister Hoburg has chosen to appeal

987
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: that determination. Therefore, we cannot comment further until the appeal

988
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: process is concluded. So that's the statement from MLB. Here's

989
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: the deal. We don't have many details, Nope. What we

990
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: can gather is, as far as we know, he didn't

991
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: bet on baseball, because that would be a lifetime ban.

992
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: Baseball would have been better off coming out and saying, hey,

993
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: this this umpire was betting on games, not baseball. But

994
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: that's a violation and this is the punishment. They should

995
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: have just been clear with it. Instead they hit it.

996
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: This is back in spring training. We're just finding out

997
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: about this in mid June, and now they're very secretive

998
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: about what the details are. They're hiding behind this. Well,

999
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: he's a BEELD, so we can't really comment. They're just

1000
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: hoping this goes away. They'd be better off back in

1001
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: spring training saying hey, an umpire got popped he's not

1002
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: allowed to bet on anything. He was betting on college football.

1003
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: He's a big Longhorns fan. Whatever, it, just give us

1004
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: some details instead of hiding it because it looks like

1005
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: something worse might be going on here when it's just

1006
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 1: this very vague hey, umpire suspended and we're like, whoa

1007
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: is this Tim Donaghue all over again? Baseball has completely

1008
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: botched this.

1009
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I also feel like slow

1010
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: playing a situation like this, taking this long for an

1011
00:52:54,320 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: investigation while it's thorough, Why don't you why don't you

1012
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: do this? And and I'm not if if he's found

1013
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: innocent of overall of of you know, the most deceitful crimes,

1014
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: that's the wrong word to use. But but rules broken,

1015
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: I guess is a better way to describe it. Okay, great,

1016
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: but apply some discipline out in front of this and

1017
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: then say and and by the way, quick to the public,

1018
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: more discipline will be applied if we if we uncover

1019
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: any more nefarious action, right, you know what I'm saying.

1020
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: So whatever it is, like, suspend them, you know what

1021
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean? Whatever, whatever rules he's broken already during the

1022
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: course of this investigation, suspend him for those rules broken,

1023
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: but then like, let's let's then let's then try to

1024
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: get to the bottom of this before that first suspension

1025
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: is up or put them on paid leave, you know

1026
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like, you know, there are a lot

1027
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: of different ways to handle situations like this, but yeah,

1028
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: it's always look, the cover up is always worse than

1029
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: the crime, and so I feel like in a lot

1030
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: of ways this it's not quite the right example to

1031
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: apply to this, but it kind of feels like that's

1032
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: what's going on. It's like, ah, we don't want this

1033
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: to be a big story unless we know it needs

1034
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 2: to be a big story. It's like, no, no, no, When

1035
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: an umpire is involved in any sort of betting scandal,

1036
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: hard stop. It's a big story. So handle it like

1037
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: it's a big story. Yeah.

1038
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: I have mixed thoughts about this because obviously, you know,

1039
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: we're very closely connected to the growth of legalized gambling

1040
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: in this country, and I think we saw a very

1041
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 3: you know, a negative story over the last few weeks

1042
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 3: with other players being suspended. I think that story, if

1043
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 3: you really dig deeper into the players, what they were

1044
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 3: betting on, how much they were betting, kind of a

1045
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 3: non story at the end of the day, it's kind

1046
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 3: of like the system is working and these very low

1047
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 3: level I would say, Pops, and I'm okay with you know,

1048
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: coming out and saying it's not necessarily the gambling that's

1049
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: the problem, but it's some of the bad actors.

1050
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 8: I have no idea how to comment on this story.

1051
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if it's if it is this act or

1052
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 3: this umpire. And by the way, like he's not a shit,

1053
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 3: Like he's not Angel Hernandez, who is like the worst umpire. Like,

1054
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 3: if it was Angel Hernandez, a lot more about his

1055
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 3: career would have made sense.

1056
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: But also this is a very decorated umpire.

1057
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: He had a one hundred Like what he's known for

1058
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 3: is back in the twenty two World Series having a

1059
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: one hundred percent success right on balls and strikes. You

1060
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: know how hard that is, No, Yeah, in the course

1061
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: of a game like two hundred plus pitches to not

1062
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 3: miss one pitch in.

1063
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: The World Series.

1064
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 3: So this guy is a I don't I don't know

1065
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: if he's like as highly regarded amongst his peers, but

1066
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 3: amongst us looking from the outside in, this is.

1067
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: One of the best umpires in baseball.

1068
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: Young gets the sport not a dinosaur, doesn't have bunny ears,

1069
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: and oh, by the way, really good at calling balls strikes.

1070
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: And when I say doesn't have bunny ears, not one

1071
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: of those guys that immediately kicked someone out of the

1072
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 3: game the second he hears something like we call it

1073
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 3: rabbit ears. You know, the umpires are always just listening.

1074
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: And it's such a problem in today's game where guys

1075
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: are getting kicked out for really low level arguments and

1076
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: we just need to like relax. But the umpires, they

1077
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: think they're part of the game sometimes, like honestly, like

1078
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: people like I think they are convinced that people go

1079
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Speaker 3: there to watch them some days.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 8: But I don't know how to comment on this story yet,

1082
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 8: well because I don't know what.

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00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: He was betting on.

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00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: That's the thing is, that's why baseball should have been transparent.

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00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: If he wasn't betting on baseball, just say what he

1086
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: was betting on, and don't leave our imaginations. Yes to

1087
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: run wild. Why do you think the NBA has a

1088
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: last two minute report that it's all solely designed so

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00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: it puts your mind at ease, like there isn't something

1090
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: the fairy is going on here? These officials aren't on

1091
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: the take. That's what it's solely designed for. It Now,

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00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it works, but that's either here nor there.

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00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: That's the reason why they do. That's so bad. But

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00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: with baseball, earlier this month, you guys talked about it.

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00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: We had details with these players who got popped in

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00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: your backyard. Rich you had tokiped at Marcana. He's banned

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00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: in definitely, which might be for life. And it's we

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00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: have details. Okay, he was betting on baseball, right.

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Speaker 3: And we knew how much, which games, We knew everything.

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00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: We knew the timeline, we knew the amount of money,

1101
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: the minor leaguers. We had these three minor leaguers who

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00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: were betting under one thousand dollars on Major League Baseball games.

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00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: They're gone for a year. We have details with all

1104
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: of that. So if Baseball came out and said we

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00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: haven't found anything about him betting on baseball, then tell

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00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 1: us what he was betting on doesn't matter.

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00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 3: He's betting on something else. Like let's say he was

1108
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 3: betting on college but he's a big Longhorns fan. Like,

1109
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: does that affect how you view an umpire?

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00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: No, would you be upset about. I don't care at all.

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00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: As long as you are not betting on baseball, whether

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00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: you're an umpire or a player, I'm good with it.

1113
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: That's the day and age we're in.

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00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I mean I would look at it

1115
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: no differently than you know, if a guy was betting

1116
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: at a blackjack table the night before. You know what

1117
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Like, the only the only problem I have

1118
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: is if a rule was broken, like for example, if

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00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: if it was strictly forbidden by umpires to to bet

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Speaker 2: to sports bet at all, like you know, And I

1121
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: don't know if that's a rule, but if I think

1122
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: it is, okay.

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00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: That's the problem with this story.

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00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: So so here I go, like, I get what you

1125
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: guys are saying, and I'm I'm interested in growing the

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00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: the uh whatever you want to call it, the interest

1127
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: in sports betting, because I don't think it's hurting people

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00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: as much as some would would try to convince you

1129
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: it is. I I I definitely think there are negative

1130
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: aspects of any Look, there's negative aspects of drinking. But

1131
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: do I drink? Yeah, because it's a social lubricant. It's

1132
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's when you can control it, it

1133
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: can have an enormously positive aspect on your life when

1134
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: you're in you know, social cheers in to uh uh,

1135
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: some congratulating, somebody going to somebody's house, opening a bottle

1136
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: of wine with people you haven't seen in a while. Like,

1137
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: those are things that are baked into our culture. And

1138
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: some people think of drinking in any form as you know,

1139
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: a devil's delight, like we should not participate, it should

1140
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: not be a part of our lives. There's many other people,

1141
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: many many, the vast majority of people who think it's

1142
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: culturally important. I think sports betting is gonna get to

1143
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: that point. I think we're gonna look at back on

1144
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 2: rules like this that Major League Baseball has set forth

1145
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: for their umpires as archaic. But you know what, right

1146
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: now we're living in a world where those are the rules,

1147
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: and if you want that job, you've got to find

1148
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: those rules. And so it does affect my view on

1149
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 2: this this umpire because his judgment, I mean, like when

1150
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: somebody breaks a rule that they're aware of, you question

1151
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: their judgment. So I'm not I'm not saying it's having

1152
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: an effect on his ability to umpire game. Clearly, clearly

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01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: it isn't. And I think you did a good job,

1154
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: Jared of like laying out how he compares to his peers.

1155
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: He's an excellent umpire. But I do think it speaks

1156
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: loudly about his judgment and if he's willing to break

1157
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: that rule, what other rules is he willing to break?

1158
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: And that's that's where this becomes a sticky situation.

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01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: Then I just quickly I think the timing is weird here.

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01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: I agree that if we if this was, if this

1161
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: guy hasn't ump the game all year, why like this

1162
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 3: should have been a story months.

1163
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Speaker 1: Ago spring training kind of just come out hit us

1164
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: with it. That's a rich Orenberger Penn State All American

1165
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: is with us. Jared Smith FSR betting analyst on Brian

1166
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: coming up next. It's a lot of cash? Is it

1167
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: too much money? It's Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox

1168
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday right here on

1169
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. So Trevor Lawrence got paid Jaguars quarterback here,

1170
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: It's amazing. So we always talk about the rookie quarterback

1171
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: contract being the biggest advantage in the NFL, and it

1172
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: absolutely is. Say the Houston Texans with c J. Stroud,

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01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: they have struck gold and he is on the cheap

1174
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: for the first at least three years of his NFL career.

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01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: Compare Trevor Lawrence what he just signed for and Jaden Daniels.

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01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: He's the number two overall pick. J just signed this

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01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: week with the Washington Commanders. So Trevor Lawrence five years,

1178
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars guaranteed, let's go by the guaranteed money.

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01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: Five years, two hundred mill guaranteed. Jaden Daniels four years,

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01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: not even thirty eight million dollars fully guaranteed on his

1181
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: rookie deal. So that's why we've seen the last handful

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01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: of teams that have made the Super Bowl. There have

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01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: been quarterbacks on rookie contracts. Brock Purdy was on his

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: rookie deal with San Francisco. You saw Jalen Hurts on

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01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: his rookie deal. Joe Burrow was on his rookie deal.

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01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: All those teams made the Super Bowl the last three years.

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01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: So we'll see if the next crop of quarterbacks, if

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01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams hits or anybody else hits, but if they

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Speaker 1: find a CJ. Stroud, if they can go on a

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Speaker 1: run like those other teams that made it to the

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01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and it takes more than just a quarterback

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01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: on the cheap. We know that, but that is the

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01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: biggest advantage in football, and it begs the question, when

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01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: you have to back up the brinks truck, are you

1195
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: comfortable doing that for Trevor Lawrence. I think he's been good.

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01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: It's there, it just hasn't been put together yet. But man,

1197
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Speaker 1: when you've got to pay him two hundred million dollars guaranteed,

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01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: that is a leap of faith that the light bulb

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Speaker 1: will go on over these next handful of years.

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Speaker 2: I personally think you have to do it, unfortunately if

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01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: you're the Jacksonville Jaguars. And I do mean unfortunately because

1202
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're going to have to a man.

1203
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 2: Every single or woman, every single Jacksonville Jaguars fan agree

1204
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 2: that he deserves it. It still definitely feels like you're

1205
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: paying him off of potential. But the potential is great.

1206
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: You've seen what this product looks like at the NFL level.

1207
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: He can definitely play at this level when he's better protected.

1208
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: When the Jags have had higher ranked offensive lines, he's

1209
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: been more efficient. So if you fix some problems around him,

1210
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: he will deliver you some greatness. It's just to what

1211
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: level we don't know yet because there hasn't been significant

1212
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: or consistent high level play around Trevor Lawrence. Now, look,

1213
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: I think these conversations get into a space where people go,

1214
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: you know, again going back to does he deserve it

1215
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 2: or not? And I understand why you can't look at

1216
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 2: this like these are humans. It's easier if you look

1217
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: at these salaries as if they're assets. So think about

1218
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: the housing market. And I always make this comparison with

1219
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 2: quarterbacks because it makes sense to people. It makes sense

1220
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: to me. You know, when you look at a three

1221
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 2: bedroom house, you're looking at a three bedroom house. You know,

1222
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: it does the same thing for you, whether it's in

1223
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: this neighborhood versus that neighborhood. You know, it's got a roof,

1224
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 2: it's got a fireplace maybe, you know, maybe it's got

1225
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: a certain amount of square footage in the yard. You know,

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Speaker 2: whatever it may be. But certain houses, depending on their

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 2: zip code, are more expensive than other houses, even though

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01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: they're the exact same You may have the same layout.

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Speaker 2: If you live in a house in Iowa near the

1230
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Speaker 2: Mississippi River, as a house that's in the hill of

1231
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: West Hollywood or Beverly Hills or you know, or somewhere

1232
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: out on the Hamptons. But guess what, the house in

1233
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: the Hamptons or the house in Beverly Hills is gonna

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01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: be worth more than the house in Iowa because you're

1235
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 2: paying for the land, you're not paying for the house.

1236
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: And that's the market of the quarterback. You're not necessarily

1237
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: just paying for Trevor Lawrence. You're paying for the zip

1238
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: code that he exists in. So if he's in, you know,

1239
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 2: the nine oh two one zero zip code, you're gonna

1240
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: pay a premium for a three bedroom home. I'm sorry,

1241
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 2: that's just the way this game is played now. So

1242
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 2: whether or not Trevor Lawrence deserves fifty or fifty five

1243
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: million dollars a year or an annual salary, whatever that is,

1244
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: I mean that that can be debated. Sure if you

1245
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 2: want to say, you know, it was an overinflated salary,

1246
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: if you want to have that conversation, sure you can.

1247
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: But this is what it is. And by the way,

1248
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: everybody's looking for a fixed er upper. Who's who who's

1249
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,479
Speaker 2: not interested in making that investment? They're taking risk. Also,

1250
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 2: so the Jacksonville Jaguars are taking risk by paying a

1251
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: huge salary. Well, how about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They

1252
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: just signed up for the next three years with their

1253
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: quarterback Baker Mayfield, and it feels like they bought a

1254
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: fixer on the same block that Trevor lives on. Well,

1255
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 2: the deal is this, I mean, hopefully they don't find

1256
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: bats in that attic. Hopefully the plumbing's good, you know.

1257
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: And what Baker Mayfield did last year for the Tampa

1258
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers matches what he does this year for the

1259
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Will find out. But there's a risk

1260
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: whether you spend the money or you don't spend the money,

1261
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: whether you're buying a fixer, or you're buying a you know,

1262
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 2: one remodeled, you know, turn key ready to move in property,

1263
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: you're still shopping in an expensive neighborhood. Yeah, it is.

1264
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 3: It is a financial thing. It's an asset thing. It's

1265
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 3: an inflation like there's all these like boring money properties

1266
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 3: involved with this.

1267
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: But let's boil it down and we'll play a game.

1268
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 3: Here is here are the quarterbacks that I'm taking the

1269
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 3: full value of the contract if you want to go guaranteed.

1270
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: Actually Yeah, let's go guarantee, because I think that's where

1271
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 3: you know, NFL money is kind of gravitating towards these days, right,

1272
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 3: the guaranteed money Trevor Lawrence received. Here, I am going

1273
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: to list and name quarterbacks that he's making more guaranteed

1274
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 3: money then, and you guys stop me when I get

1275
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 3: to the name where it's like, Okay, Trevor deserves to

1276
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 3: be in that group. Lamar Jackson, Justin, Herbert, Jared Goff,

1277
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Speaker 3: Dalen Hurts, Kyler, Murray, Josh Allen, Dak Prescott. These are

1278
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that Trevor Lawrence is making more guaranteed money. Then

1279
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 3: there's only two quarterbacks in the league that he's making

1280
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 3: less guaranteed money then Watson and Burrow. Now, the Watson

1281
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: contract is just absurd, It's like an albatross. I think

1282
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 3: Burrow they're in the same stratosphere in terms of how

1283
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 3: much guaranteed money they're making. But my point being, do

1284
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 3: we consider Trevor in that tier? Lamar Jackson, Justin, Herbert,

1285
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 3: Jared Goff, Hurts, Well, Burrow, Kyler, Go ahead, Brian, what

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Speaker 3: do you.

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Speaker 1: Think I would say this? I would say to a

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Speaker 1: couple of those quarterbacks who's his CD Lamb. If we're

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Speaker 1: comparing him to Dak who's his Amen ro Saint Brown,

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Speaker 1: if we're comparing him to Jared Goff. Like, that's one

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Speaker 1: thing that I would point out, look at the supporting

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Speaker 1: cast to be fair, right, this isn't all on the

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Speaker 1: supporting cast. Some of it is on him, but that's

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Speaker 1: a part of the equation.

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Speaker 3: I think I think he has a better supporting cast

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Speaker 3: this year. I think I hope that there's a little

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Speaker 3: more consistency with that offense this year.

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Speaker 8: But I'll be honest, if we're basing it off of kind.

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Speaker 3: Of where we grade these quarterbacks, if we were doing

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Speaker 3: a power ratings, I think I would put Lamar and

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Speaker 3: Justin Herbert and even Jared Goff and probably Ja and

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Speaker 3: probably Josh Allen ahead of Trevor Lawrence.

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01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: Right.

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01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: That's why I wonder not to cut you off till

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01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 1: you think about this. If you swapped supporting casts, what

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Speaker 1: is Jalen Hurts with the Jags? What is Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles?

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Speaker 3: I think Jalen Hurts with the Jags would be it

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01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 3: would be a struggle. I think Trevor Lawrence with the

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Speaker 3: Eagles would probably be an upgrade.

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Speaker 8: Right, Like I think I think if if if I put.

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence on the Eagles tomorrow, or let's even make

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Speaker 3: another example, how about this is I like this example

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 3: a lot because I think it kind of puts our

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Speaker 3: brain in the frame of reference where we were four

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Speaker 3: months ago in the AC Championship game. Swap out Trevor

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Speaker 3: Lawrence and Lamar Jackson in the AC Championship game, Ravens Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Do the Chiefs win that game? I still think they do.

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01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,440
Speaker 1: It's no way to know, yeah.

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Speaker 3: But I think, like in my eyes, like I think

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Speaker 3: Trevor gives them a better chance to win that game

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Speaker 3: than Lamar did. Like, and that's where I struggle with

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01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 3: a lot of the oh he's making too much. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but if you really kind of grade these quarterbacks out

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Speaker 3: to where we kind of put them in tiers, like

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Speaker 3: I think that Trevor kind of deserves to be in

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Speaker 3: that top tier.

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Speaker 8: Now, is he better than these guys? Probably not, but

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01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 8: he kind of deserves to be in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I think let's pick it back up in a second, Rich,

1331
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: because you talk about deserving to be in the conversation,

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Speaker 1: there could not be a better segue then that as

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Speaker 1: it applies to the one and only Isaac loewen Krag,

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Speaker 1: who we graciously invite to our little pow wow over here.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: I low always appreciated being part of the conversation with

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01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 4: you guys, Brian Rich and Jared And we start with

1338
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 4: Game four of the NBA Finals on Friday night, as

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01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 4: the Dallas Mavericks stayed alive and then some, beating the

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Speaker 4: Boston Celtics by thirty eight points one twenty two to

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01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 4: eighty four. It was the third largest blowout in Finals history.

1342
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 4: It also broke the Celtics ten game playoff winning streak.

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01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 4: They still lead the series, however, three games to one,

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01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 4: with Game five on Monday at Boston.

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Speaker 2: Elsewhere.

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Speaker 4: After Game four, Charles Barkley had the following announcement to

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Speaker 4: make you know.

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Speaker 10: There's been a lot of noise around on network the

1349
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 10: last few months, and I just want to say I've

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01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 10: talked to all the other networks, but I ain't going

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 10: nowhere other than TNT. But I have made the decision myself,

1352
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 10: no matter what happens, next year is going to be

1353
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 10: my last year on television.

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01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 4: No reaction yet from the women of San Antonio anyway elsewhere.

1355
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 4: After two rounds of the US Open, Sweden's Ludwig Obert

1356
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 4: has deleted five under par overall, one shot ahead of

1357
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 4: Bryson De'shambo, Patrick Kentley and Belgium Thomas Dietree. Baseball Friday

1358
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 4: Night Dodgers over the Royals four to three. Freddie Freeman

1359
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 4: to go had RBI single in the bottle of the

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01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 4: eighth Angels wanted San Francisco eight to Mariners over the

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01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 4: Rangers three to two. Seattle is one fourteen of its

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01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 4: last nineteen and back to the triumvirant, trium barret, triumvirent. Wow,

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01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 4: there's no thing as no such thing as a triumvirant.

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Speaker 4: Back to the triumviret of Brian Rich and Jared.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. You know,

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01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: before I hand the batond to you Rich, I'm just

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01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: thinking about this, all this quarterback contract stuff to a

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01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: to a tongue of I lois looking for a big

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01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence type extension. I think the question comes down

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Speaker 1: to this, because you're talking about real estate with the

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01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: quarterback market, and I get that rich. The question that

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01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: I have in my mind, and I think organizations should

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01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: have in their minds, is if we're thinking about paying

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01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,759
Speaker 1: a quarterback, can this guy still be a difference maker

1378
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,560
Speaker 1: when we have to pay him huge money and skimp elsewhere.

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01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: That's the question, Mahomes, they lose Tykill, is he still

1380
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: a difference maker? You better believe it is. Brock Purdy Still,

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01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a difference maker right now, But

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01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: is he a difference maker going forward? If you pay

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01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: him huge money and have to skip elsewhere, maybe you

1384
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 1: lose George Kittle, maybe you lose an offensive lineman Tua.

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01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: Is he going to be a difference maker if you

1386
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: lose some of that offensive line or lose a big playmaker.

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: That's the question you have to ask yourself, because if

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01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: you're overpaying a quarterback that isn't producing to the same

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01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: level of what he's getting paid, you're screwed that way

1390
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: too than not having a quarterback. In general, it works

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01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: both ways, and that's what you have to keep in mind.

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: One well, and see what the reason why the comparison

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01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 2: to the housing market does make sense. Even in the

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01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: case that you're raising there there there are risks of

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: overpaying for the zip code. You know, so you buy

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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 2: out turnkey house or what you presume is a turnkey house,

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01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: sometimes you still end up having problem. You know, you

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01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: you you buy the house, it's got all the finishes

1399
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: and the perfect backyard, but then you find out there's gophers.

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01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: You know, you buy the house, it's got all the finishes.

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01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 1: Go first, yeah, you know, dig it up your yard.

1402
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: You spend one right there for me.

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01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: You buy the house, it's cir kids, got all the finishes,

1404
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 2: and it has plumbing or electrical issues where you know,

1405
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: you got to tear out some of those finishes and

1406
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 2: fix those problems before you can even live in the thing.

1407
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 2: You know that that stuff comes up when you make

1408
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 2: that investment. But likewise, you're onboarding a significant risk when

1409
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: you step away from a quarterback like that. So I

1410
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: get the conundrum in Miami right now, or even to

1411
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: a greater or lesser extent, in Dallas right now, because

1412
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 2: immediately I started thinking about Dak Prescott. As soon as

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01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence signed this deal, I was like, well, you know,

1414
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: Dak and his agent are on the phone with Stephen

1415
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: Jones and Jerry going, hey, guess what, guys, the price

1416
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 2: just went up because now a new house or i

1417
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 2: should say an old house on the block just resold

1418
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: and they got a ton more money for it. So

1419
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: we told you if you drag your feet, it was

1420
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: gonna become more expensive to do business, you know at

1421
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 2: uh you know what, you know, at one Cowboys Place,

1422
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 2: whatever address they're at, you know. But that's that's the

1423
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 2: deal with this now. So say Tua, say Miami says, yeah,

1424
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: we've seen enough from Tua. We're moving on. Well, yeah,

1425
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 2: there's a risk in investing in Tua, but there's also

1426
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: a risk to not invest with Tua and go back

1427
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: into the QB market and say, all right, we're gonna

1428
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 2: draft a rookie quarterback or all right, we're gonna take

1429
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: a chance on a Baker Mayfield like the Tampa Bay

1430
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 2: Buccaneers did that. It's a boomer bust potential, whereas with Tua,

1431
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 2: you kind of know what you have now. Is Tua

1432
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: super Bowl champion quarterback? In my opinion, No, But does

1433
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel see it differently? Maybe so. The organization do

1434
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 2: they see it differently, maybe so, And so that investment

1435
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 2: to them may be more worth it on the inside

1436
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 2: than somebody on the outside looking at.

1437
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 3: The irony is Jags Dolphins Week one? Brian, Yeah, Laurence too.

1438
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 1: Here we go, they'll both be paid.

1439
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: There.

1440
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: Last super quick thing to keep in mind here, ask

1441
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: yourself another question. If Jacksonville didn't give Trevor Lawrence this contract,

1442
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: would another team give him that? And that's where it

1443
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: gets back to the housing market where you're talking about, right,

1444
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: is the real estate and you better believe somebody else

1445
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 1: would be paying him this much money. That's the going

1446
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: absolutely right. So it does come down to that as well.

1447
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: All Right, We've got rich Oornberger, Penn State, All American,

1448
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 1: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No. Coming up next,

1449
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: we bond through prop becks. Will unveil a list for you.

1450
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: Right around the corner. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here

1451
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports. It's Saturday

1452
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's dive into the prop

1453
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: bet waters. Shall we drop it up?

1454
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: Player plays?

1455
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: Okay, so many possibilities, Jared, what do you have on

1456
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 1: your radar here? Sir?

1457
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 3: Let's go to the Bay Area and we have the

1458
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 3: Angels in the Giants afternoon game. Patrick Sandibal lefty on

1459
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 3: the mound for the Angels. We're gonna go under seventeen

1460
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 3: and a half outs.

1461
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: Here's why.

1462
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 8: So he's gone under a nine of fourteen this year.

1463
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 1: That's good.

1464
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 3: His recent stuff's actually been better. He's been a little

1465
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 3: bit more efficient in games recently. He's gone over this

1466
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 3: number in five of the last seven, so again under

1467
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 3: early in the year over lately, but he's just barely

1468
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 3: getting to eighteen outs, which is six innings in four

1469
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 3: of the five overs in this recent stretch he's just

1470
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 3: got eighteen. So it's not like he's crushing this number.

1471
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 3: He's kind of been hovering in the eighteen out range

1472
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 3: over the last few starts. And I think you look

1473
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 3: at this Giants team, it's a matchup edge for them

1474
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 3: because they like to be patient at the play. They

1475
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 3: actually have the highest walk rate in the league against

1476
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 3: lefties this.

1477
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: Year, over twelve percent.

1478
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 8: Sandoval can be a little bit wild sometimes.

1479
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 3: He's at at least three walks in three of his

1480
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 3: last four starts, at.

1481
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: Least two walks and all but one road start this year.

1482
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: So you could bind the fact.

1483
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,759
Speaker 3: That Sandival's just getting eighteen ouns the Giants a little

1484
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 3: bit more patient than usual. Sandoval sometimes can be a

1485
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 3: little bit wild with his control, will go under seventeen

1486
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,520
Speaker 3: and a half outs. I don't think Sandoval.

1487
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 8: Reaches the sixth inning today against the Giants.

1488
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna send you guys to the NBA

1489
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 2: and send us to Monday, where the Celtics will host

1490
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 2: the Mavericks in Boston. If you remember the first two

1491
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 2: games of the NBA Finals this series, the under hit twice,

1492
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 2: So I like to take the under on the points

1493
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: totals for Luka, Doncis and Jason Tatum. Luca thirty two

1494
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 2: and a half, I'll take the under there, Jason Tatum

1495
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 2: twenty seven and a half, I'll take the under there

1496
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 2: as well. The reason is simple. These games were more

1497
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 2: defensive in Boston. It felt like Dallas had a harder

1498
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: time creating momentum in front of the visiting crowd. Kyrie

1499
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 2: Irving played a little too much hero ball, which I

1500
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: do think stripped opportunities from Luca, and I bet you

1501
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 2: he reverts to that form because, for whatever reason, in

1502
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 2: front of that Boston fan base, he wants to make

1503
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: the game about him instead of his team. So I'm

1504
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 2: taking the under on Luca thirty two and a half

1505
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 2: and Jason Tatum twenty. Now it's up to twenty six

1506
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 2: and a half, I'll take the under there.

1507
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking similar to you, Rich in a little

1508
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: bit of a different way. One of my favorite in

1509
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: game bets this series, and it's been consistent. I think

1510
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,799
Speaker 1: it's hit every single game of this series. Is Luca

1511
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: gets off to a hot start. Yes, scoring wise, he'll

1512
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: score twelve thirteen points in the first quarter, that's tired,

1513
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: and you can get an in game under and it

1514
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: is just consistently hit time and time again, when it

1515
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: was just last night where you know it was garbage

1516
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: time even before the fourth quarter. Luca left with about

1517
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 1: a minute and a half left in the third.

1518
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1519
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he didn't score very much at all in

1520
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 1: the third quarter after going ballistic in the first half.

1521
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: So it's something to keep in mind. If Luca gets

1522
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: off to a hot start and he consistently has you

1523
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: can get an in game number on the.

1524
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 3: Under point total like that angle, Brian, do you like

1525
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 3: it a lit on that?

1526
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1527
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: I like that.

1528
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: And also Derek White, who ripped my heart out a

1529
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: couple of games ago last leg of the parlay would

1530
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: have been a beautiful night if he didn't make his

1531
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: fourth three pointer, and he did with about two and

1532
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 1: a half minutes to go. I still think it's good value.

1533
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: I think under three and a half Derrick White threes

1534
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: is a good bet to make. He's gotten to four

1535
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: twice in this series, so it's done it fifty percent

1536
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: of the time. But I still think the under there's

1537
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: some value there. I would look to that like him

1538
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: all right, plenty more to get to. We've got the

1539
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: soap opera of the sports World. Another episode that's next.

1540
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: Oh what is going on? I hope you're enjoying your

1541
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: Saturday morning? Did you guys like any soap operas from

1542
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 1: back in the day? Did you ever watch did you

1543
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: ever have a I don't know, if go to that

1544
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: might be a little bit you enjoyed days of No.

1545
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 1: I just that's the only one.

1546
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 2: I can general another one. My young sister was a

1547
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: huge General Hospital fan. Yeah, she's about two years older

1548
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 2: than me. So a lot of times, like I would

1549
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 2: I would be I would find myself like walking through

1550
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, not this again, And by the

1551
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 2: end of the episode, I'm like, wait, no, I.

1552
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: Thought he was dead, so you're just still alive. Reddit

1553
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: about General Hospital right now.

1554
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 8: Guys all a dream the whole time.

1555
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1556
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 1: I bring this up because there is a soap opera

1557
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: of the sports world and it is Caitlyn Clark. And

1558
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: the crazy thing is she is not dramatic at all.

1559
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: It just feels like partially the media, partially other WNBA players,

1560
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: they are the ones that are making this dramatic. So

1561
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,919
Speaker 1: the latest episode or installment of this ongoing soap opera

1562
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,879
Speaker 1: is Caitlin Clark on Thursday said that her name shouldn't

1563
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: be used to push agendas of racism or misogyny, and

1564
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: she said it's disappointing, it's unacceptable and everybody in our

1565
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: world deserves the same amount of respect, and somehow she's

1566
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: gotten blasted for that, where it's like, oh, it's really

1567
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: easy to say I just want to play basketball instead

1568
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 1: of standing up for your team or standing up for

1569
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: the league or bad bad bad bah.

1570
01:22:58,680 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

1571
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: Some people their minds are made up and they will

1572
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: invent ways to hate on Caitlin Clark yep.

1573
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 2: And I don't know why.

1574
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what the gain is. I don't know

1575
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 1: what the benefit is he hasn't said or done anything

1576
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: that's crazy or that stirs everything up. It's she's gotten

1577
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: a lot of attention because she was a dynamic college

1578
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: basketball player and people want the same limelight. I don't

1579
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: know what it is. There's no upside to unnecessarily hate

1580
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: on the girl when she hasn't done anything or said

1581
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 1: anything wrong.

1582
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, do you know what this reminds me of

1583
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: a little bit of when you see the twenty one

1584
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 2: year old kid at the first family barbecue where all

1585
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 2: of a sudden you kind of you're watching him and

1586
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, he's about he's about one beer in

1587
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: too far. He's yeah, it's about that, you know, or her,

1588
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, like, you know, not to make

1589
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 2: a gender specific like you know, oh man, you know

1590
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 2: she's she's right at that point. One more cores light

1591
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 2: and she's gonna be And so you keep an eye

1592
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 2: on these things because you realize, like, oh, it's it's

1593
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: their first time dealing with this. Like in the NFL,

1594
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: it shocks nobody that Caleb Williams is getting a lot

1595
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 2: of attention, Like the Bears have really good players like

1596
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen just got traded to the Bears. Keenan Allen

1597
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 2: ostensibly and objectively is a much better football player than

1598
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. But guess what, Caleb Williams, he needs to

1599
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 2: support him in order for him to get the football,

1600
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, over the course of the season. Obviously, wide

1601
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 2: receiver depends on his quarterback. And by the way, the

1602
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 2: Bears overall as a team, whether we're talking about a

1603
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: star edge rusher on their team or a star receiver,

1604
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: they're all depending on Caleb Williams. So you're gonna hear

1605
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,839
Speaker 2: a lot of players out of that locker room supporting

1606
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 2: Kayleb Williams.

1607
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 6: Oh.

1608
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 2: By the way, the rest of the NFL knows, and

1609
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 2: this is true of players on every other team that

1610
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. If the better he is, the better the

1611
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 2: product is, the stronger the league is. So yeah, maybe

1612
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: if you're a Green Bay fan or a Detroit fan,

1613
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 2: or you're a Vikings fan out in Minnesota, maybe you're

1614
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 2: not necessarily rooting for Caleb Williams. But the players in

1615
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 2: those locker rooms they quietly are. Because the better the

1616
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: overall quotient of the league is, the more interest there

1617
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: is in the sport, the more everybody gets paid. The

1618
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,799
Speaker 2: more endorsement money there is being thrown around to everybody,

1619
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: it's better for the sport. What this looks like to

1620
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: me is the WNBA is at twenty one year old

1621
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 2: at the first family cookout since they turn twenty one,

1622
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 2: getting too drunk. The WNBA doesn't know what to do

1623
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 2: with this, Like the NFL has been to this cookout before,

1624
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: They've seen what this is like, this isn't their first rodeo.

1625
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: They know how to handle Caleb Williams. The WNBA has

1626
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 2: absolutely zero idea what to do from a management standpoint,

1627
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 2: league office standpoint, executive standpoint, public relations standpoint, teams across

1628
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 2: the league standpoint, players in the locker room, players in

1629
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 2: her own locker room. Her own teammates don't know what

1630
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: to do with this level of fame because it's their

1631
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 2: first time. They're they're mishandling it because they're in experience.

1632
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.

1633
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 3: I think to go back to your original question, like

1634
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 3: why it's happening to Caitlin Clark, it's success, Like like

1635
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 3: we have this sick and twisted way of society kind

1636
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 3: of playing itself out these days where if you're on top,

1637
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 3: we want you on the bottom.

1638
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: If you're on the bottom, we want you to come

1639
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: back and get back to the top.

1640
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 3: Like it's just it's just the way that our society

1641
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 3: views sports in general and life like, if you're not

1642
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 3: having success, we can relate to that. Most people struggle

1643
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 3: in life. We can relate to the underdog mentality. It

1644
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,879
Speaker 3: is hard for society to relate to the winning championship mentality.

1645
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 3: Most people don't win. Most is most people have very mundane,

1646
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 3: boring lives and they hate it. They hate their life,

1647
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 3: they hate their situation. They're unsatisfied with work or life

1648
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 3: or girlfriend, boyfriend, whatever. It is normal to have that

1649
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 3: view of society. I'm struggling that person's winning. Why is

1650
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 3: she winning? And why am I not winning? Let's bring

1651
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 3: her down to my level. And I'm not saying it's right.

1652
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's healthy. It's frankly toxic. But that

1653
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 3: is the way our society views the world. When you're

1654
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 3: on the bottom, we're rooting for the comeback. When you're

1655
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 3: on the top, how can we bring you down? We

1656
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 3: just saw it with showe Aotani. Like the show Aotani stuff,

1657
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 3: it's a different It's apples to oranges to the Caitlin

1658
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 3: Clark situation.

1659
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 8: But we were ready to like indict the.

1660
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Guy for like a mass gambling scam.

1661
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he got ripped off by some phony maloney interpreter.

1662
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 3: And like, sure, there's probably some people out there that

1663
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: still think there's a conspiracy theory that he was betting

1664
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 3: on all these games.

1665
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: Whatever. I don't want to entertain that.

1666
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 3: But my point being, there is just this way of thinking,

1667
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 3: if you are on top, how can I harnish you

1668
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 3: to bring you back down to my level? And there's

1669
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 3: just a mass of that going on in our sports

1670
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 3: world right now with Kaitlyn Clark and the whole situation,

1671
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 3: the irony of all of this. The only person that

1672
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 3: has handled this with any class or grace is Caitlyn Clark, right,

1673
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 3: which is the ultimate irony in all of this. So

1674
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 3: good on her and bad on society for just trying

1675
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 3: to bring this port go. That is, let her play basketball,

1676
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 3: that's really all she wants to do.

1677
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 1: Clearly, Well, I love the name you brought up, rich In,

1678
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, because it would be the dumbest thing ever

1679
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: for anyone to say, Oh, Caleb Williams is just getting

1680
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: attention because he's black. It's like, No, there's more of

1681
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: the equation than just that he was an outstanding college

1682
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: football player. He's got a personality where it gains attention.

1683
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: Right Like, he's done some things in college that have

1684
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: stood out. A lot of people bring up the crying thing,

1685
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 1: and right like, he's made headlines beyond just the color

1686
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: of his skin. It's the same thing with Caitlyn Clark.

1687
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 1: Is the only part of this like cause she's white. No,

1688
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: she passed Pistol beat Maravich for the most points ever

1689
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: college basketball history. Like that, It's just so dumb to me.

1690
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: Iowa was in the national Championship game the past two years.

1691
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: It's not as if she was just averaging ten points

1692
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: a night and they made the Elite eight, and you're like,

1693
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 1: why is she getting so much attention? She was a

1694
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: phenomenal college basketball player and her team was in the

1695
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 1: title game the last two years. Yeah, And you talk

1696
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: about irony, Jared, and I'm with you on the example

1697
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 1: you gave. I think some of the irony here is

1698
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 1: all these WNBA players that are like, why is she

1699
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 1: getting so much attention? And it's like, because you won't

1700
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 1: shut up about her. You're the problem, You're the reason

1701
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,480
Speaker 1: why your name is so relevant.

1702
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Listen, I think that the easy reach, the

1703
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 2: low hanging fruit on any debate is bring it to

1704
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 2: base level differences, right, like, why is this not working? Well?

1705
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 2: Clearly because you know, uh, you know what. Okay, let's

1706
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 2: let's put it in a different a different space altogether.

1707
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 2: Let's take away WNBA and let's put this in corporate America. Right,

1708
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 2: maybe there is a predominantly black business that has a

1709
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 2: new superstar, white employee. Do we think that if this

1710
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 2: was corporate America, the automatic assumption would be, oh, this

1711
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 2: isn't working because the new superstar is white. No. And

1712
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 2: by the way, flip it, you know, flip it around.

1713
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 2: You know, this isn't working because the new superstar and

1714
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 2: playee is black. No. Like like sports for whatever reason,

1715
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: and I think it's because look, competitiveness. Uh, you know,

1716
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 2: sports were created as a safer analog to war.

1717
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 1: Like.

1718
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 2: If you think a lot of the games that we play,

1719
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 2: even board games like chess or Stratego or Checker's Risk

1720
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: the world, I mean it's all it's they're all kind

1721
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 2: of predicated around war like. Even when you think about monopoly,

1722
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 2: which is more business related, like we're talking about the

1723
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 2: gobbling up of assets, crushing your opponent, opponents through.

1724
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 1: Siege warfare, basically like the the all these.

1725
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 2: Games are are kind of primitive and they kind of

1726
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 2: they kind of get us, they strip us down to

1727
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 2: our roots. Okay, well, clearly there is some problem here,

1728
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: so it must be race related or it must be

1729
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 2: gender related. Nature is no, it absolutely isn't look at this.

1730
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 2: I look at this very simply. I see the WNBA

1731
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 2: having a hard time with this because this is the

1732
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 2: first time they're getting a lot of attention. Like, for example,

1733
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 2: when you're a kid and you're practicing your public speaking

1734
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 2: part and it's going to be three minutes talking in

1735
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 2: front of your peers and you can't understand why. In

1736
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 2: your bedroom, when you're by yourself saying the speech over

1737
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 2: and over again, you had clarity, the words were coming

1738
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 2: out smoothly, you had some confidence, even a little bravado.

1739
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 2: And then when you get in front of your class

1740
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 2: of twenty five peers, you're shaking and you can't remember

1741
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 2: the words. You can't even remember how it opens, Like

1742
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 2: what was the first word? Just give it, Come on, brain,

1743
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 2: what's the first word? It's because you're inexperienced in front

1744
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 2: of a But fast forward to your hundredth time or

1745
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: your two hundred time or your thousandth time in front

1746
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,759
Speaker 2: of a crowd, You're obviously going to be much more comfortable.

1747
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 2: This is very simple to me. The reason why Kaitlin

1748
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,560
Speaker 2: Clark is being condemned for her fame is because the

1749
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 2: WNBA has literally never had a player this famous before.

1750
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 2: It's never happened. I mean, and give me the list

1751
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 2: of superstars, you know, Diana Tarassi and I mean, go

1752
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 2: through the Bird Superird. Has anybody again, thank you, thank you.

1753
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 8: Candice Parker has not on the level of Kaylyn Clark.

1754
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 2: No, no, And so this is unique, this is new.

1755
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 2: They're inexperienced. These players have zero experience dealing with the

1756
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 2: level of tension they're getting, and they're floundering right now.

1757
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 2: They're they're in front of their class, they're trying to

1758
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 2: speak to the group, and they are shaking in their

1759
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 2: boots and forgetting how this speech was supposed to open.

1760
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 2: That's what's happening. We're getting to watch it. So this

1761
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with race, or gender, or or

1762
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 2: sexuality or any of the ridiculous things have been tossed around.

1763
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: This is a bunch of kids getting their first time

1764
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 2: speaking in front of their middle school class, and they

1765
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 2: are literally shaking out of their timberlains right now.

1766
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: They're tims Okay, I like that, Well, that's what I

1767
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:20,639
Speaker 1: wore in middle school.

1768
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 8: That's what I was gonna say that. I don't think

1769
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 8: the kids are wearing that anymore.

1770
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: You might get.

1771
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 8: We might have to get it with the times.

1772
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 6: Bro.

1773
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 8: We went to high school in middle school a long

1774
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 8: time ago.

1775
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 1: I think it all comes back.

1776
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 2: To this for me.

1777
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 3: And obviously a lot of these conversations are very toxic

1778
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 3: about topics that probably sports should not really be breaching into.

1779
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, Caitlin Clark's handling

1780
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 3: it like a pro I think this will all kind

1781
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 3: of iron itself out. And again, at the end of

1782
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 3: the day, we are talking about the w NBA every

1783
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 3: single day. It is the top story on my feed

1784
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 3: that week, that the whole Caitlin Clark thing, which you

1785
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 3: got bumped over by the one player like it was

1786
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 3: the lead on every major talk show.

1787
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 1: It was the story. And I think if we can learn.

1788
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 3: Some of the players, some of the WNBA administrator learn

1789
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 3: how to handle some of it and kind of grow

1790
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 3: up mature a lot of its maturity the net positive here,

1791
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 3: guys and gals listening, we're talking about the WNBA and

1792
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 3: it's going to continue to be a talking point as

1793
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 3: long as Kaitlin Clark is in the league.

1794
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: So we just kind of have to learn. We just

1795
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: have to have it grow up a little bit.

1796
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 3: Little Kumbai a moment where maybe this first season is

1797
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 3: a little rocky learning to live with all this spotlight.

1798
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, the spotlight is

1799
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 3: still on the WNBA. Right, that's the net positive long

1800
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 3: term in my eyes. We just have to kind of

1801
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 3: grow up around it.

1802
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 1: No, that makes sense and listen and is there a

1803
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:06,879
Speaker 1: racial aspect to it, Yes, but it's not the total

1804
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 1: thing going on here. Where Let's use a couple of examples.

1805
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods. Like Tiger Woods stood out in a white sport,

1806
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 1: it's not the sole reason he was popular. He was

1807
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 1: phenomenal at what he did. Larry Bird, Lars Larry Bird

1808
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: stood out in a black sport. He was a sensational

1809
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: basketball player. Right that did being different have a little

1810
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 1: something to do with their their popularity? Yeah, I think

1811
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: it boosted it to a degree, but it wasn't the

1812
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: sole reason for the popularity yet, right, And I look

1813
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: at Caitlin Clark similarly, you guys listed off a couple

1814
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 1: of names from the past in the present with Diana Tarassi,

1815
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: Sue Byrd, Rebecca Lobo, these all white players. They never

1816
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 1: came halfway close to reaching the popularity and the status

1817
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: of Caitlin Clark right now. So it shows you that

1818
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 1: it isn't just about the color of her skin. So

1819
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's like you're trying to do

1820
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 1: this diagram of why she's so popular, and it seems

1821
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 1: like the reasons that are pointed out tend to be negative.

1822
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 1: Oh it's her skin color. Oh it's because she's straight.

1823
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 1: Why can't it be something positive where it's like she's

1824
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 1: really fun to watch. I don't know why that isn't Yeah,

1825
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: it's that's just glossed over and it goes to something negative.

1826
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 1: I just I don't buy that.

1827
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 2: I agree, I one hundred percent agree, And I think

1828
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 2: it's again, it doesn't it feel childish? Doesn't it feel

1829
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 2: very I don't know, immature, I guess is another word.

1830
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like the WNBA the analysts who cover

1831
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 2: the sport, the coaches who coach the sport, the players

1832
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 2: who play the sport, they they all just don't really

1833
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 2: know what to do with her because they've never seen

1834
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 2: this before. Look, I think we probably rommantasize how golf

1835
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 2: handled Tiger Woods to a greater or lesser extent because

1836
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 2: it happened so long ago. But there was a huge

1837
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 2: racial component to Tiger Woods rising to glory on the

1838
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 2: PGA Tour. There were a lot of stodgy golfers and

1839
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 2: frankly country club owners or members, i should say, who

1840
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 2: were not interested in seeing a black man have the

1841
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 2: level of success that he was having in a sport

1842
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 2: that was predominantly white. And I think since then, a

1843
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,959
Speaker 2: lot of those color barriers have broken down. We've obviously

1844
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 2: seen changes, even at Augusta National, which felt like the

1845
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 2: last standalone holdout for years and years, there by letting

1846
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 2: in their first ever female member. I believe it was

1847
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 2: Condolleza Rice, you know, so they broke down two barriers

1848
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 2: with that. But you know, it's interesting, right there is

1849
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 2: a racial aspect to it, and I do agree with

1850
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 2: what you're saying, Brian, But I think the biggest the

1851
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 2: biggest problem here for the WNBA, or frankly for any

1852
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 2: sport who's going through the infancy of their attention getting phase.

1853
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,639
Speaker 2: They don't know what to do with all this attention,

1854
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 2: and so the reaction seems very immature, and the reason

1855
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 2: why is because they're inexperienced. That is literally what immaturity is.

1856
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 2: We talk about children. I have two kids who are

1857
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 2: under ten years old. When they do things, there's a

1858
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 2: lot of times where I go, Okay, they should know

1859
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 2: better by now, But the majority of things they do.

1860
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 2: What it boils down to is they haven't lived that

1861
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 2: long yet. So I'm gonna give them a pass. I'm

1862
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 2: gonna teach them, you know, I'm gonna tell them the

1863
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 2: things that they need, you know, maybe how to handle

1864
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 2: a situation better. But I'm gonna give them a little grace.

1865
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,799
Speaker 2: I am. I'm kind of flipping the way I'm viewing

1866
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 2: this situation with the WNBA. I almost feel bad for

1867
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 2: them in a way because it's like watching a child

1868
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:54,560
Speaker 2: actor grow up in front of everybody and making mistakes.

1869
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 2: But there it's on a scale that you wish could

1870
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 2: be smaller for them, because everybody else gets to make

1871
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 2: those mistakes in the dark. The WNBA is gonna have

1872
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 2: to grow up in front of all of our eyes. Yeah,

1873
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:09,599
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be clunky. It's gonna be clumsy.

1874
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 3: It is, it is, but I think it's again the

1875
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 3: net positive, guys, is that we continue to talk about

1876
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 3: this league and get it in spotlight. Because the only

1877
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:20,640
Speaker 3: way that you gain, like, the only way that you

1878
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 3: get stronger, is if you work out. Your first workout

1879
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 3: might be really tough, you might be brutal, you might

1880
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 3: drop the weights all over the floor. Then you learn

1881
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 3: how to kind of, you know, handle some of the

1882
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 3: stresses and the soreness and getting stronger.

1883
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,720
Speaker 8: And this is a maturity thing.

1884
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 3: This is a league that is still pretty young relatively

1885
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 3: speaking to the other professional sports leagues out there, and

1886
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 3: it just it has to grow up. And Caitlin Clark

1887
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 3: is the puberty that the WNBA never thought that they

1888
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:48,679
Speaker 3: were gonna.

1889
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: Get, and now they have it. And it's a little awkward,

1890
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 1: but I.

1891
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 3: Think we're gonna get through it, and I think the

1892
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 3: net positive for the league in five ten years, we

1893
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 3: won't be worried about this issue at all.

1894
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 1: That's our guy. Jared's FSR betting analyst Rich Ornberger with

1895
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: US Penn State All American. I'm Brian no Coming up next.

1896
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:10,759
Speaker 1: Garth from the movie Wayne's World once said, we fear change.

1897
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 1: You might feel the same way after this next story

1898
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: that's on the way. It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here

1899
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right

1900
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. Real fast. I just saw

1901
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:27,600
Speaker 1: a quote from Serena Williams. She has some advice for

1902
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark.

1903
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 2: This is great.

1904
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 1: She said, if people are negative, it's because they can't.

1905
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 2: Do what you do.

1906
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,559
Speaker 1: Yep, I think she'll do right. Yes, Yeah, a lot

1907
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 1: of it has to do with that. Okay, how about

1908
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 1: this like Garth and Wayne's World? Do you guys Wayne's

1909
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 1: World fans from Bath in the Day, Yeah, Garth, party

1910
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 1: on Wayne. That's a party on Garth.

1911
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 9: Garth.

1912
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 1: Garth Wentz said, we fear change. And I just thought

1913
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 1: of that with this next story. So the Big Twelve,

1914
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 1: they are explored selling the naming rights to a title sponsor,

1915
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 1: and it's believed that All State is considered the front runner.

1916
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 1: So instead of the Big Twelve, we might have the

1917
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 1: All State twelve conference. Oh boy, is what we're looking for.

1918
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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, group of five schools. Like

1919
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 1: those leagues, they're thinking about similar things. So the Sunbelt,

1920
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 1: the Mountain West. You might have title sponsors for most

1921
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Speaker 1: of these leagues going forward.

1922
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Speaker 2: Yeah wahene, this makes me feel funny, like when I

1923
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 2: climb the rope in gym class. Yeah. No, it's uh,

1924
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 2: it's uh. It's where we're heading with all of this.

1925
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys probably don't remember the movie. I

1926
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 2: loved it. I was a huge South Park fan when

1927
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 2: I was growing up, and there was a movie called Basketball.

1928
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Okay, I'm so glad that you have

1929
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Speaker 2: so loved that for anybody who's never seen it. Basically,

1930
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 2: it's a driveway sport that Trey Parker and Matt Stone

1931
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 2: create as almost like a drinking game that turns into

1932
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 2: a national spectacle. And they are obviously poking fun at

1933
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:22,719
Speaker 2: major league sports, professional sports in our country, where everything

1934
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:26,679
Speaker 2: at a certain point becomes corporate. The players become completely

1935
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 2: unlikable because they're making so much money, and they have

1936
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 2: completely detached themselves from these driveway knuckleheads who are drinking

1937
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 2: beers playing the sport when they were just in the

1938
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 2: suburbs of Middle America versus what they've become now, these

1939
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 2: national celebrities. And what they started doing is they started

1940
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 2: taking things to the extreme in the movies like this

1941
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:54,600
Speaker 2: is before arenas and ballparks were named after corporate sponsors,

1942
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 2: but they started They did that in this movie. And

1943
01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 2: it was almost like the tail wagging the dog where

1944
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 2: it happened in this movie as a joke. It was

1945
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 2: a punchline, but it was almost like a warning, like

1946
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 2: a Bell Weather or a Canarian the coal Mine saying, hey,

1947
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 2: like listen, we're getting used to this certain amount of

1948
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 2: greed that this isn't so ridiculous that pretty soon it

1949
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 2: might be State Farm Arena. And guess what now it is.

1950
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 2: And so when you go back and you watch basketball

1951
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 2: now you think to yourself like, oh yeah, like this

1952
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 2: this is a comedy, but it actually was a forecast

1953
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 2: of what was to come. None of this shocks me.

1954
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 2: None of this shocks me. The fact that conferences are

1955
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 2: gonna be called the Taco Bell Conference or you know,

1956
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 2: instead of the you know, the the Mid American, it's

1957
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 2: gonna be the the the Golden Arches, and it's gonna

1958
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 2: be hey, you come through the driver through. You know,

1959
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 2: we know it's the off season, but the Shamrock Shake

1960
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 2: is available right now. It all participations. You know, it's

1961
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 2: it's gonna be what it is, and it's only gonna

1962
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,600
Speaker 2: get worse, fellas, I promise you at a at a

1963
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 2: certain point in our lifetime, just like they do in Japan,

1964
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 2: just like they So you know, the Fighters, the Fighters,

1965
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 2: that's the team that I believe it was Shoheo Tani

1966
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 2: came from, right. The Fighters they're they're not the Fighters

1967
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 2: in Japan. They're called the nipon Ham Fighters. Nipon Ham

1968
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 2: is a brand like pretty soon here, it's gonna be

1969
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:32,640
Speaker 2: the Golden Arches, Golden State Warriors, it's gonna be the

1970
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's gonna be the Mercedes Minnesota Vikings. It's

1971
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 2: gonna be That is our future. It's coming soon. And

1972
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 2: then it's gonna spread to the college ranks as well,

1973
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 2: and maybe it'll incubate at the college. Right, maybe it'll

1974
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:51,720
Speaker 2: be the the Panasonic Penn State Nitney Lyons. I'm just saying,

1975
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 2: this is the this is the future we're heading towards.

1976
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 2: Because any extra money you can ring out of the sponge.

1977
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 2: If it feels like these professional and quote unquote amateur,

1978
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 2: although it's not pro sports. All these all these all

1979
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 2: these sports they're heading more and more corporate.

1980
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate how right you are about it, because

1981
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:17,600
Speaker 3: you're right, like it might end up being like the

1982
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 3: sheets Nitney Lions sheets get a schmiss get it sheets

1983
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 3: for the Nitney.

1984
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 1: Like, Well, here's what i have to say.

1985
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 3: About the conference situation. And I've said this on this show.

1986
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 3: I've been very vocal about it on other shows. But

1987
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 3: because this is a college football based show, and that's

1988
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 3: where we got our start, and then we've kind of

1989
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 3: branched out in other things obviously, but you know, when

1990
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 3: we first started, it was really college football focused. And

1991
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 3: I remember the first year we did the show, I

1992
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:48,879
Speaker 3: gave this stay. The conferences in college sports are completely irrelevant.

1993
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 3: They are placeholders, They are figureheads. They are monarchy in

1994
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 3: college sports. They have no power, they have no responsibility.

1995
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 3: They just exist and we divide the lines based off

1996
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:06,719
Speaker 3: of regional and you know, it's not really regional anymore.

1997
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 2: It used to be.

1998
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 3: Now it's you know, it's a complete kerfuffle. Conferences don't

1999
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 3: need to exist. We could have college sports without conferences

2000
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 3: very easily. But they do exist because of the tradition

2001
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 3: and nostalgia that's gone on with them. This is kind

2002
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 3: of the first domino of them really not existing anymore,

2003
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 3: like just being these groups of private equity investors that

2004
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:37,560
Speaker 3: divide the lines and the money accordingly. And this is

2005
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 3: the not the first domino in business change in college sports. Like,

2006
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 3: we've had a few of these dominoes over the last

2007
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 3: decade or so, and we will continue to have them

2008
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 3: as this college sports landscape continues to evolve and change.

2009
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 1: But the conferences are completely meaningless, Guys, like, they're just.

2010
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 3: Like who cares? Like the only reason we care now

2011
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 3: is because it helps us set the schedule every year.

2012
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 3: But like, you could take the forty teams in college

2013
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 3: football completely eliminate all the conferences and put together a

2014
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 3: great schedule with a great postseason.

2015
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:09,720
Speaker 8: And nobody would know the difference. The only people who

2016
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 8: would know are the people.

2017
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 1: That really love the conferences.

2018
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 3: And we have to have Michigan play Ohio State every

2019
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:15,799
Speaker 3: year because it's a Big Ten rivalry.

2020
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, the Big Ten didn't exist thirty years ago.

2021
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 1: Guys like it. I think there's just like a.

2022
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 3: Whole conference realignment and frankly just dissolved them like, that's

2023
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 3: what I would do, and then let all the new

2024
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,600
Speaker 3: private equity come in and pick their teams accordingly and

2025
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 3: change it. But obviously it's a slow process to get there,

2026
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 3: but this feels like the first step. In hey, ten years,

2027
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 3: conference is completely gone.

2028
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 1: Well, I just think it reminds me of NASCAR. Remember Nascar,

2029
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 1: the title sponsor would change. It was the Winston Cup

2030
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 1: Series for a little while, and then it was next

2031
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 1: Tell and it's changed from time to time, and it's

2032
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 1: a little goofy. But I think it's far goofier for

2033
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 1: conferences to change names because if you go down this

2034
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,880
Speaker 1: road of title sponsors, they're going to change, just like

2035
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 1: football stadium names.

2036
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:07,599
Speaker 2: Yep.

2037
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,679
Speaker 1: So if you get used to the All State twelve,

2038
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 1: which used to be the Big twelve, and then it

2039
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: changes to the Burger King twelve, it's like what are

2040
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: we doing here?

2041
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 2: Right?

2042
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 1: Like, that's when it's going to become really goofy. Someone

2043
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 1: who is not goofy in a bad way, but every

2044
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 1: now and then goofy in a good way. That would

2045
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 1: be our guy, Isaac Lohencron, who brings the entertainment along

2046
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 1: with the information.

2047
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 4: Really, because you guys are my muses. So this relates

2048
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 4: to what you were just discussing, and that was the

2049
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 4: corporatization of sports. So we will start with Game four

2050
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 4: of the NBA Finals, presented by YouTube TV on Friday night. Ah,

2051
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 4: that saw the Dallas Maverick Farm and Fence Supply Mavericks

2052
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 4: stay alive with a thirty eight point victory over the

2053
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 4: Boston sand In Gravel Celtics one twenty two to eighty four.

2054
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:09,760
Speaker 4: Both of those are real companies, by the way, it

2055
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:13,799
Speaker 4: was the little free publicity. It was the third largest

2056
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 4: blowout in Finals history, breaking Boston's ten game winning streak

2057
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, with the Celtics still lead the series

2058
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 4: three games to one. Game five on Monday at Boston

2059
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 4: at the TD Fleet Center Shauma Center. All right, it's

2060
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 4: still the TV Garden you were going.

2061
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 1: You were doing so well there, I know.

2062
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:38,639
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I mean that's the other thing. It's

2063
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 4: about these arenas. It's one thing for them to have

2064
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 4: corporate names, but then you they changed them every three years. Yeah,

2065
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 4: Like the Miami Arena had a new name this year,

2066
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 4: and it's always a company you've never ever heard of.

2067
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:56,720
Speaker 4: But I digress elsewhere. After Game four, big news made

2068
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 4: off the court by none other than Charles Barclay.

2069
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 10: You know, there's been a lot of noise around on

2070
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 10: network the last few months, and I just want to

2071
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:07,680
Speaker 10: say I've talked to all the other networks, but I

2072
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 10: ain't going nowhere other than TNT. But I have made

2073
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:16,600
Speaker 10: the decision myself, no matter what happens, next year is

2074
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:18,560
Speaker 10: going to be my last year on television.

2075
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 4: After two rounds of the US opened, Sweden's Ludwig Obert

2076
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 4: has the leaded five hunder par overall, one shot ahead

2077
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 4: of Bryson Deshambo, Patrick Cantley and Belgium's Thomas Dietree. They'll

2078
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 4: all tee off round three at around three thirty Eastern

2079
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 4: time this afternoon. And one other note about what you

2080
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 4: guys were just talking about. You have sent me down

2081
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:42,759
Speaker 4: the basketball rabbit holes.

2082
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:43,679
Speaker 1: Such a great movie.

2083
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 4: Another wonderful part of that movie cameos shockingly by Bob

2084
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 4: Costas and Al Michaels, who I thought were much too

2085
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 4: classy to partake in a movie such as that until

2086
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 4: I heard this in the movie nothing I've ever been

2087
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 4: this excited. You're excited, Niles back to you guys as Yes, guys.

2088
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 2: Have a good sense of humor. I mean, it was

2089
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 2: a very funny movie, but it really did become a

2090
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 2: forecast of things it.

2091
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 1: Did for sure. It is Fox Sports Saturday here on

2092
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Shortly after the show, our podcast will

2093
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:27,040
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2094
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,160
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2095
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:32,000
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2096
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,080
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2097
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2098
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 1: the show posted right after we get off the air.

2099
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 4: Uh.

2100
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I was just.

2101
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 1: Thinking with the naming rights thing, some of these arenas

2102
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 1: or stadiums where it's just you think of it as

2103
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 1: the sponsor, like the Carrier Dome in Syracuse. That's even changed,

2104
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, So these naming rights, it's gonna change. Staples

2105
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 1: stall it.

2106
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 3: Well, when do the big traditional stadiums change? Like when

2107
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 3: do we get Yankee Stadium's right, when do we get

2108
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:09,799
Speaker 3: Fenway Park?

2109
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2110
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 3: I guess technically Wriggly Field is wriggly Gum, but right

2111
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 3: like Wriggly Field presented by Big Red, Like you know,

2112
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 3: like when do we get those dominoes to fall?

2113
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 1: That's what I experienced. Full change you got in Denver

2114
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, yeah, right, like mile high or Invesco

2115
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 1: Field at mile high or what it does?

2116
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 2: So weird? Well, what's so funny is even Wrigley Field

2117
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:34,640
Speaker 2: You named it, and it's like you forget part of

2118
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:36,680
Speaker 2: the reason why it's called Wrigley Field is because of

2119
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 2: the gum com Yeah.

2120
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 1: That gum is still going undred years later.

2121
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Camden Yards though, I mean, like their cover

2122
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 2: is one.

2123
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 1: That doesn't have a corporate there you go, by the way,

2124
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 1: a funny story to throw out there. You see the

2125
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 1: Chief's new Super Bowl rings. They got the seed wrong

2126
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins. Yes, so so beautiful rings. Five hundred

2127
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 1: and twenty nine diamonds, thirty eight rubies zero spell check, Yeah,

2128
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 1: total of fourteen point eight carrots. They got the seed

2129
01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 1: wrong of the Dolphins. So on the ring on the inside,

2130
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 1: like right where it goes in your finger, you see,

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Speaker 1: And this is common right. They have the playoff path

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01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,839
Speaker 1: of the teams, and the scores of the playoff games,

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01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:26,879
Speaker 1: and the seeds of the playoff teams. Their first playoff

2134
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 1: game was against the Dolphins. On the rings, it says

2135
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:31,559
Speaker 1: they're the seventh seed.

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01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 2: That's wrong.

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01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 1: They were the sixth seed. They thought they were the

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01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 1: one seed. The chiefs were over over, you know, overestimating

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01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 1: what their seed was. Yeah, so it's not something you

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01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 1: can fix and post right there.

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01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna need a lot of sandpaper, a lot

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Speaker 2: of sand paper, a lot of boat toorks for that one.

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01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 1: I just love the videos that they put out now,

2145
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: and they're really cool where they show like the top

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01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 1: of the ring opens up and it takes you on

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01:54:59,200 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 1: this sort of like.

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01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 8: I don't know this content these days all for clicks.

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01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what do you call it? Where I'm having

2150
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 1: a brain freeze right now? They know they've yeah kind

2151
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: of they've stopped football getting drones like these drones, so

2152
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 1: it gives you like a drone kind of view through

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01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 1: the ring and it's like, wow, that's really cool, all

2154
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 1: this detail and thought they got the sea, they got

2155
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 1: the sea. I wish I could have been in the

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01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 1: room when they were designing it.

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01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 2: Oh, I wish I could have been in the room

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01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 2: where the first person said, hey, weren't the weren't the

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01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: Dolphins of six?

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01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 3: And then and then figured it out you think it

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01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 3: was one of the players, Like, wait a minute, I

2162
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 3: bet it.

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01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 2: Was one of the coaches. I bet either that or

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01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 2: it might have even been like this is what I

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01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 2: presume happened. This is honestly what I think happened. Probably

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01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 2: one of the assistant coaches with Miami knows one of

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01:55:57,200 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 2: the Chiefs assistant coaches and was like, hey, idiots, we

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01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 2: weren't a seven seed. We were a six seed going

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01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 2: into the postseason. And then and then that Chiefs coach went, no, wait,

2170
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 2: what are you? And then he looked it up and went,

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01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 2: I'll be damned, I gotta go tell somebody that's awesome.

2172
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 1: Good event. All right, We've got Rich Ronberger Fence State

2173
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 1: All American, Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst. I'm Brian no

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Speaker 1: coming up next, the rapid Fire selections. We each have

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01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 1: three of them, will compare notes. It is Fox Sports Saturday,

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Speaker 1: right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday,

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Speaker 1: right here on Fox Sports Radio. Props to the crew,

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Speaker 1: Bo Benson, our trusted producer, Chris Purfet, technical producer, Isaac

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Speaker 1: Lohencron crushing the updates, crushing life, Top of the Hour,

2180
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 1: up on game. Fill in hosts today, Mike Harmon, Ryan Hollins.

2181
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 1: They are warming up in the bullpen as we speak.

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01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 1: By the way, before our picks, some news this morning.

2183
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 1: T Higgins, Bengals wide receiver. He assigned his franchise tender,

2184
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:02,320
Speaker 1: so he'll be in Cincinnati this year. Adam Schefter says

2185
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 1: it's unlikely he'll sign a long term deal this offseason.

2186
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 1: But it looks like the band is back together again

2187
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 1: for one more go with Jamar Chase, T Higgins, Joe Burrow.

2188
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 1: So good news for the Bengals as t Higgins is signed,

2189
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 1: sealed and delivered. We got some picks to make.

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01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 1: Rapid fire, all right, Jared Smith, we start with you.

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01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 1: What's on your radar?

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01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, one and two last week not great, but twenty

2194
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 3: eight and twenty since the Super Bowl, so not gonna

2195
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 3: complain about that.

2196
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 1: I think you guys actually had a really good week.

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01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 8: So I think a collective show winning week.

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01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 3: But let's get back on the winning track individually here,

2199
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 3: and we'll start with the Nerfey. I kind of hinted

2200
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 3: at it during the parlay segment. It's kind of an

2201
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 3: extension of the parlay platter. We're gonna go with the

2202
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 3: nerfy in the Rangers Mariners game. This is later this

2203
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 3: afternoon in Seattle, Nathan Valde George Kirby. Great pitching matchup.

2204
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 3: Kirby is twenty three and one to the nerfy at

2205
01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 3: home in his career. The dude just rakes or I

2206
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 3: guess the opposite of rakes, he throws gas at home.

2207
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 1: So we'll go Rangers, manners, nerd feet.

2208
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 3: How about some puck. We haven't talked about the Stanley

2209
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 3: Cup Final. It might end tonight.

2210
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 1: I don't think it will. I think the Oilers get

2211
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 1: one at home.

2212
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 3: It feels like a gentleman sweep kind of series, similar

2213
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 3: to what we're seeing.

2214
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:13,920
Speaker 6: In the NBA.

2215
01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 3: And again, everyone likes Florida. They went on the road,

2216
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 3: they won in Edmonton in Game three. Kind of a

2217
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 3: similar situation of what happened in the NBA finals. So

2218
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 3: the Oilers, I think a little value on Edmonton.

2219
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 1: At home tonight.

2220
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 3: Short price on the money line, and I'll lay it

2221
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 3: with the Celtics on Monday night.

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01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 1: Guys, six and a half. I think this number is

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01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:30,400
Speaker 1: gonna close seven.

2224
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 3: So I feel like if you bet Boston minus six

2225
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 3: and a half now you get a little bit of

2226
01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 3: closing line.

2227
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 8: Value come Monday night. But I think the Celtics close.

2228
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:38,480
Speaker 1: It out in five.

2229
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 2: Okay, very good. Actually, where you left off is where

2230
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 2: I start. I'm gonna go under the two one hundred

2231
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 2: nine and a half points in Game five MAVs at Boston.

2232
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 2: The under hit twice when this series was in Boston.

2233
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 2: I think lightning strikes a third time. First quarter spread

2234
01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 2: minus two and a half on the Celtics.

2235
01:58:58,520 --> 01:58:59,000
Speaker 1: I like it.

2236
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:01,400
Speaker 2: I think they rush to a hot start. I think

2237
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 2: the Mavericks answer. Like many of the games we've seen

2238
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 2: in this series, I think the Mavericks will wake up

2239
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 2: and make it a closer game, and then separation will

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01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:14,640
Speaker 2: occur again. The Celtics will overtake them and hoist Hilario O'Brien.

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01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, though, is gonna have a slow night scoring,

2242
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 2: and that's very similar to how his series has gone.

2243
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 2: It's been a little bit more of sharing offense on

2244
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 2: the Celtics side. So I'm taking the under twenty seven

2245
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 2: and a half point scored by Tatum.

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01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:35,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm going the plus one oh five route today. Okay,

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01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 1: couple of picks for you. I've got the Detroit Tigers

2248
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 1: on the road money line plus one oh five. They're

2249
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 1: taking on the Houston Astros. Sy stinky line to me.

2250
01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 1: Justin Verlander on the bump for the Astros. Lot of bets,

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01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 1: a lot of tickets on the Astros to win. Yet

2252
01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 1: the wise guys, huh, the money line is still pretty

2253
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 1: close to a pick them right, there's I'm gonna take

2254
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 1: the Tigers. Also match up. I like this on the

2255
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Speaker 1: road Texas Rangers plus one oh five yet again, Nathan Yavaldi.

2256
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:09,400
Speaker 1: He's on the bump for the Rangers. The Mariners they

2257
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 1: strike out the most of any team in Major League Baseball,

2258
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 1: and Evaldi is one. He's a pretty good strikeout pitcher

2259
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:19,640
Speaker 1: as well. So I am going with the Texas Rangers

2260
02:00:19,640 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 1: plus one oh five. And let's stick with the plus

2261
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 1: money theme, shall we. PJ Washington, I'm gonna fade his

2262
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 1: three pointers on Monday Night in Game five. I've got

2263
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:34,360
Speaker 1: under one and a half threes for PJ. Washington against

2264
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics to do a great job defending the

2265
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 1: three point shot on the road do or die situation,

2266
02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 1: sweaty palms, I say for PJ Washington, I'm gonna fade right, yeah, first,

2267
02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:53,080
Speaker 1: thank you, PJ. Yes, or like Derek White, we're he

2268
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:57,080
Speaker 1: banked in three in Game three, and that helped him

2269
02:00:57,160 --> 02:00:59,320
Speaker 1: barely get over three and a half. So we can

2270
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 1: do a whole three hours on bad beats? Probably, absolutely

2271
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:06,520
Speaker 1: we could. Hopefully that's not next week's show, right, everybody,

2272
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 1: have a great day. We will catch you soon