Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of trend
Speaker 1: square ball drop reference to times squares ball drop, which
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Speaker 1: Shout out to gross face Killer for that, and for
Speaker 1: also making the football card of David Lesser's. So David
Speaker 1: Lesser on the Discord said, I know it's too late,
Speaker 1: but when JM McNab our writer comes on, I always
Speaker 1: think Jonavan McNab thought of the McNab and then gross
Speaker 1: face killer made a a baseball card or a football
Speaker 1: card of it. Every time I've seen Jam's name since then,
Speaker 1: I have thought Jonavan McNab Uh. So thank y'all for that.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien. I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: in our second seat by the brilliant and talented Andrew.
Speaker 1: You know important is this racist? And many many times
Speaker 1: being on the show, Andrew, how are you doing New Year?
Speaker 2: I'm eating just insane amounts of salad.
Speaker 1: You can Yeah, that is the word. I actually heard
Speaker 1: that before you even came on. People are talking about
Speaker 1: it in these streets.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 2: that's mainly what I've accomplished.
Speaker 1: You hear how salad Andrews eating.
Speaker 3: Salad.
Speaker 1: That's a crazy amount of salad. Man. We had a
Speaker 1: what's the wind equivalent of a rain out? A blowout?
Speaker 4: We've got blown out, got blown out, blown out, a
Speaker 4: blowout today and can't be with The wind in Los
Speaker 4: Angeles is such that like both Miles super Producer justin,
Speaker 4: both of their power is down.
Speaker 2: That is wild. I will.
Speaker 3: I am at a south facing window and it's unbelievably
Speaker 3: right right now, but I'm sort of in if the
Speaker 3: wind is where it seems to be. I think I
Speaker 3: might be just in in the uh, the leeward side
Speaker 3: of the mountains, because I'm really not seeing much where
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, wind is trade and like if you're
Speaker 1: closer to the mountains it gets really intense. But it
Speaker 1: is La is very weird. It has very strange weather
Speaker 1: where sometimes it'll be so windy they'll be like, I
Speaker 1: don't think.
Speaker 2: You should drive.
Speaker 1: It's like, wait more, you should drive.
Speaker 3: It's hard to know because it's like at some point
Speaker 3: in recent history, the entire proposition of Los Angeles was
Speaker 3: that the weather was very even and fine. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: obviously that climate is changing allegedly natural reasons.
Speaker 1: You see how cold it is in the Midwest.
Speaker 2: Come on, that's crazy, It's crazy.
Speaker 3: But I do think part of it is like the
Speaker 3: absolute inability for you know, post nineteenth and twentieth century
Speaker 3: Los Angeles' infrastructure is not designed to handle much no,
Speaker 3: and so we're getting it basically fails at any given opportunity.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is. It's like a hothouse flower, you know, is.
Speaker 2: Like delicious and beautiful orchid.
Speaker 1: That has never had to phase a stress test of
Speaker 1: any sort, and when there is danger, it shatters and
Speaker 1: falls falls apart. Brian the editor has this lord job?
Speaker 1: Is La the New Windy City more than eleven? Very well?
Speaker 2: Yeah you should.
Speaker 3: Producer Victor asked if I if I could come on
Speaker 3: the show. I immediately said yes before checking my own
Speaker 3: internet connection or power, and.
Speaker 2: Then realized that probaly was unwise.
Speaker 1: But I am here the last two men in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles with internet.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, we are the Internet. We we are
Speaker 2: the Internet.
Speaker 1: Wait, I am legend. Let's talk about Meda.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just just a cool company that has understood definitely
Speaker 3: didn't get lucky one time, but has understood human humans
Speaker 3: and human interaction every.
Speaker 1: Now was not just somebody who happened to cash a
Speaker 1: winning lottery ticket and has let that convince him that
Speaker 1: he is an all consuming genius.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: God, he this look so so uh Narksucker Nerd put
Speaker 1: on his you know, gen z hair and big chain
Speaker 1: black tea and addressed to the nation and said, uh, basically,
Speaker 1: guys like we're Maggan now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He announced on the Corporate Meta blog that he is
Speaker 1: basically all in on free speech and wants to fit
Speaker 1: in with the incoming regime. Like it's just straight up
Speaker 1: like he's just like, yeah, Trump is right about everything.
Speaker 1: We want to be in the Trump business, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's basically everybody getting in line as fast and as
Speaker 1: shamelessly as possible.
Speaker 3: Here, Okay, this is this is I know this has
Speaker 3: been a bit of a drama. I have been beating
Speaker 3: since the election and a little before the election.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: I know that there's been a lot of this handwringing
Speaker 3: about like, look at all these media companies getting in line,
Speaker 3: and I'm a little I just want to raise the
Speaker 3: specter of using the present tense on getting in line,
Speaker 3: and may be incorrect I'm just they're.
Speaker 1: Really change in their tune from when they were doing
Speaker 1: the right thing for all those years.
Speaker 3: All these things are exactly like everything that Zuckerberg says
Speaker 3: he's going to do. If he's a very free speech
Speaker 3: I guess I'm a little just like unclear the ways
Speaker 3: in which this wasn't already happening. I should say free
Speaker 3: speech in massive square quotes obviously.
Speaker 2: Sure. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Has Facebook not been clear Nazi propaganda for the last
Speaker 3: five years?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Am I missing something? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They had a fact checker department that was bad at
Speaker 1: its job, and you know, like so they had a
Speaker 1: fact checker department because there were like things like mass
Speaker 1: casualty events caused by Facebook rumors in other countries, and
Speaker 1: so in order to like, you know, be careful about
Speaker 1: liability and things like that, they instituted fact checker departments.
Speaker 1: And now they're like, well, we're not doing that in
Speaker 1: America anymore, because it was he specifically, he's like, we're
Speaker 1: going to get rid of a bunch of restrictions on
Speaker 1: topics like immigration and gender. They're just out of touch
Speaker 1: with mainstream discourse.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I don't know, it's like, yeah, they've
Speaker 3: been racist and fucking transphobic while they had these things.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm like, I understand this will be quote
Speaker 3: unquote worse. Yeah, but I will just kind of slow
Speaker 3: a little bit, caution that people.
Speaker 2: Like the hand ringing the hands should have been wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm just not really like, I don't know what really
Speaker 3: how much like this is he's the same person, he's
Speaker 3: just saying it.
Speaker 2: But these things are so cool now, yeah, he does.
Speaker 2: He does look lit.
Speaker 1: It looks so tight. Did you see that one video
Speaker 1: where he was like wakesurfing with the American flag.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's just a fucking huge Nazi dork. But
Speaker 3: he's been a huge Nazi dork this whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I don't know, I mean, all all the things that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's just like the getting in line of it,
Speaker 3: like look at look at all the capitulation, and it's like,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to tell you that this capitulation has been
Speaker 3: happening or.
Speaker 1: It's just there in their official corporate communications. Yea, Like
Speaker 1: McDonald's just announced that they're rolling back their diversity goals.
Speaker 3: But like that also is like none of those were
Speaker 3: instituted by the government. These were all based on their
Speaker 3: perception of the market, and like, I guess we'll see
Speaker 3: whether they're right or wrong. But like, you know, the
Speaker 3: people haven't really like changed that much. It's just like,
Speaker 3: you know a lot of people are low information, don't
Speaker 3: give a shit, and you know, feel economic pain that
Speaker 3: both political parties are giving to them. So like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, I just think this is going to
Speaker 3: be this is going to go like the thing that
Speaker 3: was making online spot like places care about since quote
Speaker 3: unquote censorship was not the government, It's the fucking market,
Speaker 3: and like we'll just see, Yeah, Facebook will be more
Speaker 3: Nazi than it was, and don't use it.
Speaker 1: I will say that a lot of my politics were
Speaker 1: driven by just what Joe Biden told me to do, yeah,
Speaker 1: for the past four years. So it is going to
Speaker 1: be a little tricky for me now that I don't
Speaker 1: have my guiding light, my true north there to tell
Speaker 1: me what to do. They also just deleted a bunch
Speaker 1: of AI profiles. Yeah, like so they created like fake
Speaker 1: AI people on Facebook. There were like just bots for
Speaker 1: people to interact with. And this is going to surprise
Speaker 1: people who have been following all of the AI developments.
Speaker 1: But they looked like shit and didn't work. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: pointed out this Goldman Sachs paper from June of last
Speaker 1: year that was just like, yeah, it's a trillion dollar
Speaker 1: answer to one hundred million dollar question. It is a paraphrase, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's actually paraphrasing, right right, But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's like the the like like nose to the grindstone,
Speaker 1: people who like can't afford to let you know, they
Speaker 1: let ideology drive their desires, but not what they more
Speaker 1: or less what they're you know, obviously they're hugely biased. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but these folks understand and I think, you know, broadly speaking,
Speaker 1: we can all sort of see that there's no like
Speaker 1: the actual reason to use any of this AI stuff,
Speaker 1: but especially all of this stuff that's supposed to be
Speaker 1: social and entertaining. It's like so weird because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's better than the horrible racist nerds that run Silicon
Speaker 1: Valley at socializing, But that doesn't mean that's good for humanity.
Speaker 1: The bar it clears the lowest bar of humanity that
Speaker 1: you could possibly like define.
Speaker 3: But that, by the way, is also what gives me
Speaker 3: a little like to the extent that there is hope
Speaker 3: on this, Like you know, Zuckerberg has gone like you know,
Speaker 3: decided free speech and we're taking away all this stuff.
Speaker 2: It's like yeah, or like McDonald's like.
Speaker 3: These analyzes are being driven by people that also think
Speaker 3: that these AI profiles were a profitable idea. Like and
Speaker 3: if you see the common theme, it's that these people
Speaker 3: don't know shit.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean it's gonna obviously it's gonna be bad. But
Speaker 3: like these people are very very stupid and truly do
Speaker 3: not understand how people work.
Speaker 2: They just got lucky once. Same with Ron Moss.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump at least understands how racists work. Although it's
Speaker 3: like you're like, you know, he he's just right place,
Speaker 3: right time, and sort of right vibe.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just like historically with like the level of genius that
Speaker 1: people ascribe to Hitler, I've always like found it like
Speaker 1: when you actually go back and like read about what
Speaker 1: Hitler was, like, he was like kind of a dumb guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's very narcissistic and so like was good at presenting
Speaker 1: himself because he like studied every like photo that was
Speaker 1: ever taken of him and like did a lot of
Speaker 1: like work for like yeah, but like just he slept
Speaker 1: through the d day attacks, like he is a fucking dipshit,
Speaker 1: but he was just like the person for that moment
Speaker 1: in time. Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 3: Not that dipshits can't be dangerous, but it's like absolutely,
Speaker 3: let's not like, let's let's not ascribe like they have power,
Speaker 3: but they don't have the genius that they think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like a lot of people in America
Speaker 1: ascribe to them because in America we love a winner
Speaker 1: and we want to give them like all powerful status.
Speaker 2: But so not that they're not dangerous, but like, let's
Speaker 2: be real, these people are fucking morons. Honestly.
Speaker 3: Social media is the thing that has most pierced that veil,
Speaker 3: like more piers that veil than anything else. It's like,
Speaker 3: how would we have known, truly how actually stupid Elon
Speaker 3: Musk is on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break, we'll be right back,
Speaker 1: and we're back, all right, popcorn buckets. The trend has
Speaker 1: continued since the last time we checked in with it.
Speaker 1: I think the last time we checked in with it,
Speaker 1: like we you know, obviously covered the fuckable doom Sandworm have.
Speaker 2: Did we talk. Have you seen one of those things?
Speaker 2: I saw one over Christmas?
Speaker 1: The person you saw it in the flesh? What did
Speaker 1: you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like many of the common theme and
Speaker 3: everything we're talking about, it's wild that this.
Speaker 2: Made it up the corporate chain product.
Speaker 3: The number of very powerful people who had to approve
Speaker 3: this thing is baffling to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, they were right. It was a
Speaker 1: huge hit, which gave rise to the fuckable Wolverine popcorn
Speaker 1: bucket and a slimmer popcorn bucket that's somewhere, someone somewhere
Speaker 1: probably tried to have some. And then of course recently
Speaker 1: we got the Witch's hat bucket for Wicked and a
Speaker 1: literal coffin shaped bucket to time with No Sparatu that
Speaker 1: I feel like they would have done better.
Speaker 3: Spoiler alert for no Saratu, I will just say, but obviously,
Speaker 3: if you don't want to be spoiled, to gip ahead,
Speaker 3: the poppup bucket.
Speaker 2: Should have just been a huge mustache. Yes, the mustache
Speaker 2: is by far.
Speaker 3: I mean, nothing else in that movie made me like
Speaker 3: truly gasp as much as first seeing the mustache. Maybe
Speaker 3: it wasn't the trailer, but either way, you're like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 3: that shit is crazy.
Speaker 1: That is a crazy looking thing. Gladiator Too had a
Speaker 1: popcorn bucket that was shaped like the coliseum, but then
Speaker 1: if you viewed it through a smartphone, it allowed you
Speaker 1: to watch a tiny fight to the death inside of
Speaker 1: your popcorn bucket, which I kind of love. Did you
Speaker 1: seek Gladiator Too?
Speaker 3: I not only did I seek that, I realized I
Speaker 3: hadn't seen Gladiator one, possibly in its entirety, because I've
Speaker 3: probably caught most of it like syndicated chopped up, but
Speaker 3: either way, I hadn't seen any version of it in
Speaker 3: probably fucking fifteen years. So what I did was I
Speaker 3: had the most just imagine the most fucking Italians yelling
Speaker 3: at each other day you could have. I watched the
Speaker 3: finale of Penguin Gladiator one, and Gladiator one took me
Speaker 3: to I was like two minutes late to Gladiator two,
Speaker 3: like the.
Speaker 1: Trips, like right, you just ran it right into the.
Speaker 2: Just like fucking straight in.
Speaker 3: So I will just say, if anyone else is even
Speaker 3: remotely considering doing that, do not it really really ruins
Speaker 3: Gladiator two?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Gladiator one's better, or just because it's too
Speaker 1: much Gladiator to me?
Speaker 3: It's because not this is not film criticism. They're to me,
Speaker 3: they're very similar. It just kind of goes boils down
Speaker 3: to like I think there's a world where Gladiator two
Speaker 3: is sort of going to be generationally like The Phantom Menace,
Speaker 3: like the way kids for whom The Phantom Menace was
Speaker 3: their first star Wars are like, it's fine, it's great.
Speaker 3: There's probably a world where people who didn't see Gladiator
Speaker 3: wonder he was better.
Speaker 2: Fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because that's not the one with sharks, right,
Speaker 1: so it's the same movie, just with more Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like fine.
Speaker 3: You know, probably purists would say they prefer the performance
Speaker 3: of Russell Crowe over Paul mescal I don't think, you know,
Speaker 3: it's just a lot of.
Speaker 2: Italians yelling each other. Yeah, I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He really Spaniard. By the way, he's not Italian. And
Speaker 1: that only makes sense when you realize that, like, very
Speaker 1: close to the beginning of production, Antonio Banderaz was cast
Speaker 1: in that role, and then they were like, oh fuck,
Speaker 1: Antonio's out. Who do we get? How about the guy
Speaker 1: from Eli Confidential? He doesn't look like we don't have
Speaker 1: time to change the name, but well, Uh, we'll just
Speaker 1: go with it.
Speaker 3: It's really yeah, it's so I don't know. I thought
Speaker 3: the movie was fine. I just was in the wrongest
Speaker 3: possible headspace to watch it.
Speaker 1: I would have preferred to watch all the Gladiator battles
Speaker 1: happen at a tiny scale and of popcorn bucket in
Speaker 1: my hands personally, But other than that, I was on board.
Speaker 3: Well, like also like all corporate stuff, right, it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: there were three, like, you know, just normal hits with
Speaker 3: the popcorn buckets, So let's make one that includes fucking
Speaker 3: are in you know, like implementation of a fucking app.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, how did this go from like, you know,
Speaker 3: two pieces two to three pieces of molded plastic two
Speaker 3: needing fucking like servers. Yeah, Like they always do the
Speaker 3: wrong thing with a business. I mean, this had to
Speaker 3: be a huge money pit, Like why would you do this?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that the amount that like that movie
Speaker 1: just like looked so expensive. It just looked like money
Speaker 1: was being burned in every corner of the screen, which
Speaker 1: is like a great uh you know, that's a lot of.
Speaker 2: Fair I will just say.
Speaker 3: Also, also spoiler for Gladiator two, I'm pretty convinced they
Speaker 3: just used the xenomorph models. There's a scene where they're
Speaker 3: fighting some monkeys, and tell me, tell me that those
Speaker 3: are not simply xenomorphs rey skinned.
Speaker 1: They look they're just like what if there was a
Speaker 1: different animal back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just is exactly.
Speaker 3: They're just xenomorphin around, they're doing zenomorph' stuff. Their tails
Speaker 3: move the same way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really strange.
Speaker 3: Feel very confident that morph.
Speaker 1: Anyways, Coming up January nineteenth, the working Man's Popcorn Bucket.
Speaker 1: It's National Popcorn Day and Cinema is having a bring
Speaker 1: your own bucket event, which sounds like something would get
Speaker 1: with an invitation to an ayahuasca party. But in this case,
Speaker 1: you just bring any container as long as it's not
Speaker 1: over four hundred ounces.
Speaker 3: This is sad that they had to make that stipulation
Speaker 3: because they knew.
Speaker 1: So a forty ounce is so ten x that don't
Speaker 1: bring something ten times the size of a forty and
Speaker 1: we'll fill it with popcorn.
Speaker 3: Five dollars four hundred ounce container. Okay, the containers I'm
Speaker 3: seeing like on home depot dot com look closer to
Speaker 3: like rolling luggage.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah in general vibe yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Don't break that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ten forties ten forties is just like a thick
Speaker 3: carry on, yeah, or a thick checked bag.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm looking at some it's like a you know,
Speaker 1: one of the larger plastic containers you would get at
Speaker 1: the container store.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean again this is this is not
Speaker 3: to like, like, I know everything is getting shittier, but
Speaker 3: just off the success of fun popcorn buckets making one
Speaker 3: that costs them nothing exactly here you go. What kind
Speaker 3: of fucking Tom Sawyer ass bullshit is bring your own bucket?
Speaker 1: It's very like not corporate. It's like, did you just
Speaker 1: like give this like fuck an eighty year old eagle
Speaker 1: scalp or something like who came up with this idea?
Speaker 1: This idea seems so anti corporate. They're like they went
Speaker 1: all the way corporate with the gladiator to one where
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, so it's a little coliseum. But then
Speaker 1: put on your VR smartphone app and you can that
Speaker 1: must be it.
Speaker 3: Whatever budget went into making this VR app, clearly what's
Speaker 3: your mind for the bucket that's supposed to come out
Speaker 3: on January nineteenth? And yeah, that budget has shrinked too,
Speaker 3: precisely zero. Yeah, I'm just now that pitch obviously they
Speaker 3: headed everyone off at the past with not over four
Speaker 3: hundred ounces. So my pitch is someone cobble together. I
Speaker 3: guess maybe a series of graduated cylinders or tubes so
Speaker 3: that technically it is under four hundred ounces, but it
Speaker 3: is like whatever.
Speaker 2: The length incredibly long could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just make those super long beaker Yeah, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: a single file line of popcorn. Yeah, these are good ideas.
Speaker 1: Andrew T. What a pleasure having you on the daily,
Speaker 1: I guess, as always, so where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: You know my podcast is yo is as racist andrew
Speaker 3: T on. Whatever the least Nazi social media available is
Speaker 3: at any given time, as far as I know.
Speaker 1: As far as we know, that is going to do
Speaker 1: it for us this afternoon. We're back tomorrow with a
Speaker 1: whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind
Speaker 1: to each other, be kind to yourselves, get your vaccines,
Speaker 1: get your flu shots, don't do nothing about white supremacy,
Speaker 1: and we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye ea.