1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of trend 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: square ball drop reference to times squares ball drop, which 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: is my square. That's good. 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Gross face Killer on the Discord and it's fucking good. 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Shout out to gross face Killer for that, and for 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: also making the football card of David Lesser's. So David 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: Lesser on the Discord said, I know it's too late, 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: but when JM McNab our writer comes on, I always 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: think Jonavan McNab thought of the McNab and then gross 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: face killer made a a baseball card or a football 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: card of it. Every time I've seen Jam's name since then, 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I have thought Jonavan McNab Uh. So thank y'all for that. 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien. I'm thrilled to be joined 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: in our second seat by the brilliant and talented Andrew. 16 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: You know important is this racist? And many many times 17 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: being on the show, Andrew, how are you doing New Year? 18 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: I'm eating just insane amounts of salad. 19 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: You can Yeah, that is the word. I actually heard 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: that before you even came on. People are talking about 21 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: it in these streets. 22 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying 23 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: that's mainly what I've accomplished. 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: You hear how salad Andrews eating. 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: Salad. 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: That's a crazy amount of salad. Man. We had a 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: what's the wind equivalent of a rain out? A blowout? 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: We've got blown out, got blown out, blown out, a 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: blowout today and can't be with The wind in Los 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 4: Angeles is such that like both Miles super Producer justin, 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: both of their power is down. 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: That is wild. I will. 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: I am at a south facing window and it's unbelievably 34 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: right right now, but I'm sort of in if the 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: wind is where it seems to be. I think I 36 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: might be just in in the uh, the leeward side 37 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 3: of the mountains, because I'm really not seeing much where 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: I am. 39 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, wind is trade and like if you're 40 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: closer to the mountains it gets really intense. But it 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: is La is very weird. It has very strange weather 42 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: where sometimes it'll be so windy they'll be like, I 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: don't think. 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: You should drive. 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: It's like, wait more, you should drive. 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: It's hard to know because it's like at some point 47 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: in recent history, the entire proposition of Los Angeles was 48 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: that the weather was very even and fine. Yeah, and 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: obviously that climate is changing allegedly natural reasons. 50 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: You see how cold it is in the Midwest. 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: Come on, that's crazy, It's crazy. 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: But I do think part of it is like the 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: absolute inability for you know, post nineteenth and twentieth century 54 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: Los Angeles' infrastructure is not designed to handle much no, 55 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: and so we're getting it basically fails at any given opportunity. 56 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. It's like a hothouse flower, you know, is. 57 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: Like delicious and beautiful orchid. 58 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: That has never had to phase a stress test of 59 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: any sort, and when there is danger, it shatters and 60 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: falls falls apart. Brian the editor has this lord job? 61 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: Is La the New Windy City more than eleven? Very well? 62 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah you should. 63 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: Producer Victor asked if I if I could come on 64 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: the show. I immediately said yes before checking my own 65 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: internet connection or power, and. 66 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: Then realized that probaly was unwise. 67 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: But I am here the last two men in Los 68 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: Angeles with internet. 69 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, we are the Internet. We we are 70 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: the Internet. 71 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: Wait, I am legend. Let's talk about Meda. 72 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, just just a cool company that has understood definitely 73 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 3: didn't get lucky one time, but has understood human humans 74 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 3: and human interaction every. 75 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: Now was not just somebody who happened to cash a 76 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: winning lottery ticket and has let that convince him that 77 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: he is an all consuming genius. 78 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 79 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: God, he this look so so uh Narksucker Nerd put 80 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: on his you know, gen z hair and big chain 81 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: black tea and addressed to the nation and said, uh, basically, 82 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: guys like we're Maggan now. 83 00:04:59,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 84 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: He announced on the Corporate Meta blog that he is 85 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: basically all in on free speech and wants to fit 86 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: in with the incoming regime. Like it's just straight up 87 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: like he's just like, yeah, Trump is right about everything. 88 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: We want to be in the Trump business, and yeah, 89 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: it's basically everybody getting in line as fast and as 90 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: shamelessly as possible. 91 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: Here, Okay, this is this is I know this has 92 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: been a bit of a drama. I have been beating 93 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: since the election and a little before the election. 94 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: I think. 95 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: I know that there's been a lot of this handwringing 96 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: about like, look at all these media companies getting in line, 97 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: and I'm a little I just want to raise the 98 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: specter of using the present tense on getting in line, 99 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: and may be incorrect I'm just they're. 100 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: Really change in their tune from when they were doing 101 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: the right thing for all those years. 102 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: All these things are exactly like everything that Zuckerberg says 103 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: he's going to do. If he's a very free speech 104 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: I guess I'm a little just like unclear the ways 105 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: in which this wasn't already happening. I should say free 106 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: speech in massive square quotes obviously. 107 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: Sure. I don't know. 108 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: Has Facebook not been clear Nazi propaganda for the last 109 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: five years? 110 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: Right? 111 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: Am I missing something? Yeah? 112 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: They had a fact checker department that was bad at 113 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: its job, and you know, like so they had a 114 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: fact checker department because there were like things like mass 115 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: casualty events caused by Facebook rumors in other countries, and 116 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: so in order to like, you know, be careful about 117 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: liability and things like that, they instituted fact checker departments. 118 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: And now they're like, well, we're not doing that in 119 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: America anymore, because it was he specifically, he's like, we're 120 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: going to get rid of a bunch of restrictions on 121 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: topics like immigration and gender. They're just out of touch 122 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: with mainstream discourse. 123 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I don't know, it's like, yeah, they've 124 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: been racist and fucking transphobic while they had these things. 125 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: I guess I'm like, I understand this will be quote 126 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 3: unquote worse. Yeah, but I will just kind of slow 127 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: a little bit, caution that people. 128 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: Like the hand ringing the hands should have been wrong. 129 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: I'm just not really like, I don't know what really 130 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: how much like this is he's the same person, he's 131 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: just saying it. 132 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: But these things are so cool now, yeah, he does. 133 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: He does look lit. 134 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: It looks so tight. Did you see that one video 135 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: where he was like wakesurfing with the American flag. 136 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: I mean, he's just a fucking huge Nazi dork. But 137 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: he's been a huge Nazi dork this whole time. Yeah, 138 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: so I don't know, I mean, all all the things that, Yeah, 139 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: it's it's just like the getting in line of it, 140 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: like look at look at all the capitulation, and it's like, 141 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: I'm sorry to tell you that this capitulation has been 142 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: happening or. 143 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: It's just there in their official corporate communications. Yea, Like 144 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: McDonald's just announced that they're rolling back their diversity goals. 145 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: But like that also is like none of those were 146 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: instituted by the government. These were all based on their 147 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: perception of the market, and like, I guess we'll see 148 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: whether they're right or wrong. But like, you know, the 149 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: people haven't really like changed that much. It's just like, 150 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: you know a lot of people are low information, don't 151 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: give a shit, and you know, feel economic pain that 152 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 3: both political parties are giving to them. So like, I 153 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: don't know, man, I just think this is going to 154 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: be this is going to go like the thing that 155 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: was making online spot like places care about since quote 156 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: unquote censorship was not the government, It's the fucking market, 157 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: and like we'll just see, Yeah, Facebook will be more 158 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 3: Nazi than it was, and don't use it. 159 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: I will say that a lot of my politics were 160 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: driven by just what Joe Biden told me to do, yeah, 161 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: for the past four years. So it is going to 162 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: be a little tricky for me now that I don't 163 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: have my guiding light, my true north there to tell 164 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: me what to do. They also just deleted a bunch 165 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: of AI profiles. Yeah, like so they created like fake 166 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: AI people on Facebook. There were like just bots for 167 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: people to interact with. And this is going to surprise 168 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: people who have been following all of the AI developments. 169 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: But they looked like shit and didn't work. Yeah, you 170 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: pointed out this Goldman Sachs paper from June of last 171 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: year that was just like, yeah, it's a trillion dollar 172 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: answer to one hundred million dollar question. It is a paraphrase, Yeah, yeah, 173 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: but it's actually paraphrasing, right right, But yeah, I mean 174 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: it's it's like the the like like nose to the grindstone, 175 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: people who like can't afford to let you know, they 176 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: let ideology drive their desires, but not what they more 177 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: or less what they're you know, obviously they're hugely biased. Yeah, 178 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: but these folks understand and I think, you know, broadly speaking, 179 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: we can all sort of see that there's no like 180 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: the actual reason to use any of this AI stuff, 181 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: but especially all of this stuff that's supposed to be 182 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: social and entertaining. It's like so weird because it's like, yeah, 183 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: it's better than the horrible racist nerds that run Silicon 184 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,119 Speaker 1: Valley at socializing, But that doesn't mean that's good for humanity. 185 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: The bar it clears the lowest bar of humanity that 186 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: you could possibly like define. 187 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: But that, by the way, is also what gives me 188 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: a little like to the extent that there is hope 189 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: on this, Like you know, Zuckerberg has gone like you know, 190 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: decided free speech and we're taking away all this stuff. 191 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 2: It's like yeah, or like McDonald's like. 192 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: These analyzes are being driven by people that also think 193 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: that these AI profiles were a profitable idea. Like and 194 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: if you see the common theme, it's that these people 195 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: don't know shit. 196 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. 197 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: I mean it's gonna obviously it's gonna be bad. But 198 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: like these people are very very stupid and truly do 199 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 3: not understand how people work. 200 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: They just got lucky once. Same with Ron Moss. 201 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: Donald Trump at least understands how racists work. Although it's 202 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 3: like you're like, you know, he he's just right place, 203 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 3: right time, and sort of right vibe. 204 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 205 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: Just like historically with like the level of genius that 206 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: people ascribe to Hitler, I've always like found it like 207 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: when you actually go back and like read about what 208 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: Hitler was, like, he was like kind of a dumb guy. Yeah, 209 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: He's very narcissistic and so like was good at presenting 210 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: himself because he like studied every like photo that was 211 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: ever taken of him and like did a lot of 212 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: like work for like yeah, but like just he slept 213 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: through the d day attacks, like he is a fucking dipshit, 214 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: but he was just like the person for that moment 215 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: in time. Yeah, I feel like. 216 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: Not that dipshits can't be dangerous, but it's like absolutely, 217 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: let's not like, let's let's not ascribe like they have power, 218 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 3: but they don't have the genius that they think. 219 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like a lot of people in America 220 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: ascribe to them because in America we love a winner 221 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: and we want to give them like all powerful status. 222 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: But so not that they're not dangerous, but like, let's 223 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: be real, these people are fucking morons. Honestly. 224 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: Social media is the thing that has most pierced that veil, 225 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 3: like more piers that veil than anything else. It's like, 226 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: how would we have known, truly how actually stupid Elon 227 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: Musk is on Twitter. 228 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's it's amazing. 229 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break, we'll be right back, 230 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: and we're back, all right, popcorn buckets. The trend has 231 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: continued since the last time we checked in with it. 232 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: I think the last time we checked in with it, 233 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: like we you know, obviously covered the fuckable doom Sandworm have. 234 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: Did we talk. Have you seen one of those things? 235 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: I saw one over Christmas? 236 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: The person you saw it in the flesh? What did 237 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: you think? 238 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like many of the common theme and 239 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 3: everything we're talking about, it's wild that this. 240 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: Made it up the corporate chain product. 241 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: The number of very powerful people who had to approve 242 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: this thing is baffling to me. 243 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, they were right. It was a 244 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: huge hit, which gave rise to the fuckable Wolverine popcorn 245 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: bucket and a slimmer popcorn bucket that's somewhere, someone somewhere 246 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: probably tried to have some. And then of course recently 247 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: we got the Witch's hat bucket for Wicked and a 248 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: literal coffin shaped bucket to time with No Sparatu that 249 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: I feel like they would have done better. 250 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: Spoiler alert for no Saratu, I will just say, but obviously, 251 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: if you don't want to be spoiled, to gip ahead, 252 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:18,599 Speaker 3: the poppup bucket. 253 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: Should have just been a huge mustache. Yes, the mustache 254 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: is by far. 255 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: I mean, nothing else in that movie made me like 256 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: truly gasp as much as first seeing the mustache. Maybe 257 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: it wasn't the trailer, but either way, you're like, oh, fuck, 258 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: that shit is crazy. 259 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: That is a crazy looking thing. Gladiator Too had a 260 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: popcorn bucket that was shaped like the coliseum, but then 261 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: if you viewed it through a smartphone, it allowed you 262 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: to watch a tiny fight to the death inside of 263 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: your popcorn bucket, which I kind of love. Did you 264 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: seek Gladiator Too? 265 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: I not only did I seek that, I realized I 266 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: hadn't seen Gladiator one, possibly in its entirety, because I've 267 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: probably caught most of it like syndicated chopped up, but 268 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: either way, I hadn't seen any version of it in 269 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: probably fucking fifteen years. So what I did was I 270 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: had the most just imagine the most fucking Italians yelling 271 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: at each other day you could have. I watched the 272 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: finale of Penguin Gladiator one, and Gladiator one took me 273 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: to I was like two minutes late to Gladiator two, 274 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: like the. 275 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: Trips, like right, you just ran it right into the. 276 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: Just like fucking straight in. 277 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: So I will just say, if anyone else is even 278 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: remotely considering doing that, do not it really really ruins 279 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: Gladiator two? 280 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Gladiator one's better, or just because it's too 281 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: much Gladiator to me? 282 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: It's because not this is not film criticism. They're to me, 283 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: they're very similar. It just kind of goes boils down 284 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: to like I think there's a world where Gladiator two 285 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: is sort of going to be generationally like The Phantom Menace, 286 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: like the way kids for whom The Phantom Menace was 287 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: their first star Wars are like, it's fine, it's great. 288 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: There's probably a world where people who didn't see Gladiator 289 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: wonder he was better. 290 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: Fine. 291 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because that's not the one with sharks, right, 292 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: so it's the same movie, just with more Yeah, it's 293 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: like fine. 294 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: You know, probably purists would say they prefer the performance 295 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: of Russell Crowe over Paul mescal I don't think, you know, 296 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: it's just a lot of. 297 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: Italians yelling each other. Yeah, I guess, I don't know. 298 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: He really Spaniard. By the way, he's not Italian. And 299 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: that only makes sense when you realize that, like, very 300 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: close to the beginning of production, Antonio Banderaz was cast 301 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: in that role, and then they were like, oh fuck, 302 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: Antonio's out. Who do we get? How about the guy 303 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: from Eli Confidential? He doesn't look like we don't have 304 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: time to change the name, but well, Uh, we'll just 305 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: go with it. 306 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: It's really yeah, it's so I don't know. I thought 307 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: the movie was fine. I just was in the wrongest 308 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: possible headspace to watch it. 309 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: I would have preferred to watch all the Gladiator battles 310 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: happen at a tiny scale and of popcorn bucket in 311 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: my hands personally, But other than that, I was on board. 312 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: Well, like also like all corporate stuff, right, it's like, oh, 313 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 3: there were three, like, you know, just normal hits with 314 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: the popcorn buckets, So let's make one that includes fucking 315 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 3: are in you know, like implementation of a fucking app. 316 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: I'm just like, how did this go from like, you know, 317 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: two pieces two to three pieces of molded plastic two 318 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: needing fucking like servers. Yeah, Like they always do the 319 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: wrong thing with a business. I mean, this had to 320 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 3: be a huge money pit, Like why would you do this? 321 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that the amount that like that movie 322 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: just like looked so expensive. It just looked like money 323 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: was being burned in every corner of the screen, which 324 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: is like a great uh you know, that's a lot of. 325 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: Fair I will just say. 326 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: Also, also spoiler for Gladiator two, I'm pretty convinced they 327 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: just used the xenomorph models. There's a scene where they're 328 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: fighting some monkeys, and tell me, tell me that those 329 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: are not simply xenomorphs rey skinned. 330 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: They look they're just like what if there was a 331 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: different animal back. 332 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just is exactly. 333 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: They're just xenomorphin around, they're doing zenomorph' stuff. Their tails 334 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: move the same way. 335 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really strange. 336 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 3: Feel very confident that morph. 337 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: Anyways, Coming up January nineteenth, the working Man's Popcorn Bucket. 338 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: It's National Popcorn Day and Cinema is having a bring 339 00:18:53,960 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: your own bucket event, which sounds like something would get 340 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: with an invitation to an ayahuasca party. But in this case, 341 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: you just bring any container as long as it's not 342 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: over four hundred ounces. 343 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: This is sad that they had to make that stipulation 344 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: because they knew. 345 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: So a forty ounce is so ten x that don't 346 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: bring something ten times the size of a forty and 347 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: we'll fill it with popcorn. 348 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: Five dollars four hundred ounce container. Okay, the containers I'm 349 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: seeing like on home depot dot com look closer to 350 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 3: like rolling luggage. 351 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah in general vibe yeah, yeah, so. 352 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: Don't break that. 353 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, ten forties ten forties is just like a thick 354 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: carry on, yeah, or a thick checked bag. 355 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm looking at some it's like a you know, 356 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: one of the larger plastic containers you would get at 357 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: the container store. 358 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean again this is this is not 359 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: to like, like, I know everything is getting shittier, but 360 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: just off the success of fun popcorn buckets making one 361 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: that costs them nothing exactly here you go. What kind 362 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: of fucking Tom Sawyer ass bullshit is bring your own bucket? 363 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: It's very like not corporate. It's like, did you just 364 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: like give this like fuck an eighty year old eagle 365 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: scalp or something like who came up with this idea? 366 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: This idea seems so anti corporate. They're like they went 367 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: all the way corporate with the gladiator to one where 368 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: they're like, okay, so it's a little coliseum. But then 369 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: put on your VR smartphone app and you can that 370 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: must be it. 371 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: Whatever budget went into making this VR app, clearly what's 372 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: your mind for the bucket that's supposed to come out 373 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 3: on January nineteenth? And yeah, that budget has shrinked too, 374 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: precisely zero. Yeah, I'm just now that pitch obviously they 375 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 3: headed everyone off at the past with not over four 376 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: hundred ounces. So my pitch is someone cobble together. I 377 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: guess maybe a series of graduated cylinders or tubes so 378 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: that technically it is under four hundred ounces, but it 379 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: is like whatever. 380 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: The length incredibly long could be. 381 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, just make those super long beaker Yeah, yes, yeah, 382 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: a single file line of popcorn. Yeah, these are good ideas. 383 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: Andrew T. What a pleasure having you on the daily, 384 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: I guess, as always, so where can people find you? 385 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: Follow you? 386 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 4: Oh? 387 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 3: You know my podcast is yo is as racist andrew 388 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: T on. 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