1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody. It's DJ n V Jess Hilarious, 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club law La 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: Ross here as well. We got a special guest in 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: the building. We have a comedian, Ryan Davis. Welcome brother. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: What's up man now? Donald Rawlings is feeling into here. 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: You know, Charlomagne's out, just is out. So donn Ella's 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: is one of our family members, extended family. 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 3: But don't expect me to do no booty drop, so 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: none of that type of stuff. 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Crazy. 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: But how are you feeling? 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: First for I'm feeling good, man, I'm feeling good. 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: Your new special, Underrated is out right now. Yeah, man, 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: And it's a story. You put it together for people 16 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: that don't know. Explain how you started to do this 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: on your own. You shopped it around and yeah, you 18 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: couldn't get a deal. 19 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Nah, I shopped it around. It's funny too whenever you 20 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: because I mentioned Netflix immediately when I said all Netflix 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: didn't take it, people go, you know, there's other places. 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they understand how shopping around goes. You 23 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: shop it everywhere, you know, I just mentioned Netflix, but 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: it was hailed for like five months or it was 25 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: in their hands for like five months, and then eventually 26 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: they said, you know no, they passed on it. And 27 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: by that time, you know, yeah done. Will tell you man, 28 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: some material has like shelf Life. Yeah yeah. But what 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: I want to say, this is what people understand. 30 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: Like Robbie. 31 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: Robbie Praut is a big exec over Netflix, and even 32 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: for years I've been in his presence. I don't want 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: to make this interview by myself, but we shared the 34 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: same career paths and I asked him one time, I said, 35 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: what do I have to do to give myself a 36 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: better position for you know what? I know people ask 37 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: him all the time what about a Netflix special? And 38 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: he said, Donelle, you one of the funniest comments that 39 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: I know. I respect you, but you have to understand. 40 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: We tell people no all day and that's what people understand. 41 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: You see people that on Netflix. But it's a lot 42 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: of deserving people. But for some reason, it might not 43 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: have been the time, it might not have been the thing. 44 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: They might have needed something from the Alphabet Commune, somebody 45 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: from the Alphabet Commune that year, whatever, But what I could say, 46 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: and I had a problem moment I slipped on your 47 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: page when you took metals into your own hand. 48 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: And one of the. 49 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: Things I did, and I appreciate about you. A lot 50 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: of people in this business they talked ship. They won't 51 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: put their money where their mouth is and they won't 52 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: bet on themselves. So when I saw you that testimony 53 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: and you broke it down, this nigga went analytical. Yeah, 54 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: he had charged numbers. 55 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: You spent, well, how much did you shoot? How much 56 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: you did? 57 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: Take? You ast me about one fifty. Because you know, 58 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: when you choose certain venues and then you have to 59 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: address the venue. I had to paint the stage. It 60 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: was several cameras. You know, you got to get the jib, 61 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: you gotta get the everything. Like I had to pay 62 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: for everything out of pocket. 63 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: So when you go to these places like Netflix and 64 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: all these other places that said no, which made you 65 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: decide to do it on your own, they tell you 66 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: why no, or they just like, damn, you have no 67 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: clue why it. 68 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 5: Has been the block. Once you did that breakdown on 69 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 5: the line where you showed those so. 70 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Many and that was the thing, it went so crazy. 71 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: But because it was it was shared hundreds of thousands 72 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: of times, So like my dms were crazy, and there 73 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: was a lot of people reaching out who have platforms 74 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: and things of that nature, but I couldn't see it 75 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: all or even entertain Plus I've already told millions of 76 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: people where I'm gonna put it and what I'm gonna 77 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: do with it, you know, And to the people who 78 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: were reaching out, you know, with these platforms, you know, 79 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. But also at this time, this is 80 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: a great time to reach out to other comedians because 81 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of comedians that have my story. You know, 82 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: at this point, you should you should put out that 83 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: you're willing to bring comedians to your platform and give 84 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: them a space to share their art, you know what 85 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I wanted. I wanted, you know, 86 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: whenever I put it out to inspire other people to 87 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: put their money where their mouth is. 88 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but they're not going to do it. 89 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: A lot of people talk a lot of shit, and 90 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like when we are 91 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: in a better position. When I first started, it was 92 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: only like ABC, CBS, NBC, and the ultimate platform for 93 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: specialist was the HBO, Right, It wasn't a million things. 94 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: So there are avenues but if you know, in this business, 95 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: Netflix probably is the most prestigious, the one that people 96 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: gravitate to the most, Like this is the platform to 97 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: say this is one of the great and even if 98 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: even if you do find another home for I know, 99 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: it's something to be said about a Netflix special. I 100 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: think you're deserve it. Interesting to me, is underrated? Why 101 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: did you choose to name your special underrated? 102 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: I think that is. 103 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: And if you're just joining us, Ryan Davis is here, 104 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: Donnella's filling in for Charlemagne, and Donnella is on his journalist. 105 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 5: Tip period because he just brought that in real, real easy. 106 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think underrated describes kind of what my journey 107 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: is right now in stand up, you know what I mean. 108 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: I think amongst my peers, they know how I get 109 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: down on stage. But I think the general public we 110 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: have gotten to a point where the skill of stand 111 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: up isn't really celebrated as much as the popularity of 112 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: an individual. And I wanted to highlight that when it 113 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: comes to the stand up space. You know, I think 114 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm one of the best out here, like one of 115 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: the top ones, and I don't want and whenever I 116 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: think I'm criticist anytime I'm criticized, it's based off of 117 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: social media content. Oh, I don't think, you know, he 118 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: may be this because of the I've seen clips of 119 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: something instead of the actual thing that I do. So 120 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: that's why I went with underrated. 121 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: Let me ask you, is Netflix the goal? And what 122 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: I mean by that, It's like when you when you 123 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: play basketball, the goal is NBA, When you play football, 124 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: the goal is NFL. You know, when you do something 125 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: the goal might be, you know, to own a Ferrari 126 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 2: as a comedian, is the goal Netflix? 127 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think I think Netflix put 128 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: themselves in position with the deals that they did, you know, 129 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: with Dave and Chris and Kevin. When they started handing 130 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: out twenty million, you know, uh, they had surpassed HBO 131 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: at that point, and then it had been a while 132 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: since you saw an HBO special and then that person 133 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: went on to like incredible success, and that's been the 134 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: story for a lot of people that you know have 135 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: been on Netflix. So I think Netflix had surpassed you know, 136 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: HBO as far as being a launching pad, so that, 137 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think any creative keeps there, you know, 138 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: into the street and eyes on what's going on. So 139 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: you have somebody like Sebastian Maniscalco who he wasn't relatively 140 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: known like that, and he did his Netflix special. Now 141 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: he does Madison Square Garden. So you know, you see 142 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: stuff like that and you don't see it on other platforms. 143 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: It makes you go, Okay, now I see the influence 144 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: that Netflix has and I kind of want that launching pad. 145 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: That's how you think of it. I think that's what 146 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: made Netflix appear to be the top one. 147 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: When you say when you say underrated, is that your 148 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: observation or is that the observation from your fans and 149 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: people that have been following your journey. Who's saying you 150 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: underraty you? Or there's the people that you want to 151 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: reach out to. 152 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: Nah, I think that's what I've viewed over the years. 153 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't I don't even think. I think over the 154 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: years I've seen that people don't even think I'm as 155 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: successful as I am. I think it's uh. I think 156 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: the narrative on me is that I'm still like that 157 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure it out, or I'm up 158 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: and coming and I've been like how successful. 159 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: I will say the first time I ever saw you, 160 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: I think it was that. I think it was that 161 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: maybe chocolates, Sunnies. 162 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Or last Yeah. 163 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: And I was like, cause, you know is a thing, 164 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: you know, my stuff set I come to eat it up. 165 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you come behind me? I closed? 166 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was when I left them, I was like, 167 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: all right, do what you gotta do. What it was 168 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: and and I don't have a problem with that. And 169 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: like the thing that you didn't get rattled. 170 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? You getting rattled. 171 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: And when I say, even when I watched the clips 172 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: and stress your composure. 173 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, you're timing, you know. 174 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: And then when I saw you, when I first time 175 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: I saw you, it's so hard to say somebody's original. 176 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: I was like, this motherfucker's original his point of view. 177 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: He's not talking about everything these motherfuckers talked about. And 178 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: then when I watch you, I say, guess what this 179 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: motherfucker can entertain black, white, Asian or whatever. And that's 180 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: the point. How do you do you feel sometimes because 181 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: you have the crossover ability that people don't connect with 182 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: your blackness? 183 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: Man, you know that you deal with that. 184 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: I'm asking you the question. 185 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: So it's just but to add on what he said, 186 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: he's right, right, And the reason I say that is 187 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: is I know you as a comedian, but to me, 188 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't stand out as it should. Yeah, he's a 189 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: little different because he's been coming on the Breakfast Club 190 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: for years, so we poke at that, we make fun 191 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: of him. But for you, I didn't see it the same, 192 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: almost like a Hannibal Burrs right where he's huge, but 193 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: not in our community. For say, you know what I mean, 194 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: So how do you deal with that? And how come 195 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: that is? 196 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: But that's why I lead to underrated. And I'm gonna 197 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: tell you, I'm not going to act like that's not 198 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: bothersome to be underrated amongst the people you feel like 199 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: you relate to the most black people. 200 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, because I'm going to ask you, like, because you 201 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 6: said underrated, people look at you like you said up 202 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 6: and coming, like you're not successful. Like when I said, 203 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 6: I was going to ask you how successful you are? 204 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 6: But I don't mean for you to like name every accolade. 205 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 6: I mean, where do you think your level of success ranks? 206 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 6: And like what is success to you? Because if you 207 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 6: can put out one hundred and fifty k real easy 208 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 6: for a special right, a lot of people don't got 209 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty k in cash, just be like, yo, 210 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 6: I need to shoot this. 211 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're doing something somewhere. 212 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. So yeah, I'm doing all right. 213 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: But that's also because of my fans. I went straight 214 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: to my fans. This Patreon that I'm doing is not new, 215 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: and I you know, I don't do the whole flashy thing. 216 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm all about. You know, if my fans believe in 217 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: me enough to give me money, then I'm gonna in 218 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: return give them a product. So the special aim from that. 219 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: Me and my my partner, Austin Hall, my business partner, 220 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: Austin Hall, we did a movie. 221 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: Well, you know you succeeded. 222 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: You're successful when you say my business partner, business partner. 223 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we're doing a movie. Even the money that's 224 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: made from this special is go. I'm gonna shoot my 225 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: second one this year. You know, it's all about giving 226 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: the people. If they're willing to invest in me, then 227 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: I'm willing to give them the product that they paid for. 228 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: Why don't you think you connect to the black community 229 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: as you should? 230 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: Like I think that the black audience has been trained 231 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: to gravitate towards certain type of stuff. Well, you know, 232 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: in our business we call dick and pussy jokes continue alrighty, 233 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: not because I think I think what happens is uh. 234 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: We have been trained over the years to do what's 235 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: the move, like what's the popular thing to do? Like 236 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be there, so I'm gonna go, you know 237 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: what I mean, instead of I don't think a lot 238 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: of people are willing to stand on. I like this person, 239 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: so I'll go even if the building is empty. You know, 240 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: they rather be a part of something bigger. People love 241 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: to be a part of something, and I think if 242 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't create that fear of missing out 243 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: like a lot of people do you know, I'll sell 244 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: out a show and I won't show anybody. So there's 245 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: so the narrative is the thought that I don't sell 246 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: out shows. And I always thought that was weird, and 247 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: then some like I remember seeing comments when I would 248 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: promote shows. They're like, I don't know, if the shows 249 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: sell out, then I might have to pull up, And 250 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, why would that be the reason the reason 251 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: to a show? Stuff like that always, you know, I 252 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: think we're always because we're the coolest, you know kids 253 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: that were always looking for the coolest people to follow, 254 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: and comedy ain't about cool, It's about funny, you know. 255 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: And I think once we get back to that, you know, 256 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: celebrating the skill and the you know, the actual talent, 257 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: then you know, comedy would be back in a good place. 258 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: But I really believe, I really believe this. It's people 259 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: like yourself. Right, I've been doing it long with you, 260 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: but it's people like yourself that I really appreciate. And 261 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: I really believe that. Sometimes I think, will the artists 262 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: stand up fade away? You know what I mean, because 263 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: it's so easy to get caught up in you know, 264 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: the crowd work comics, it works him and everything, and 265 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 3: he's like this is this going to oversaturate the market, 266 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 3: and this is what's gonna be the norm. Then it's 267 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: kind of refreshing when I see people like yourself. I 268 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: was like, you know what, there will be people that 269 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: save this art form. And it's interesting because I've heard 270 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: underrated come to me. I just really really believe Ryan, 271 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: it's just a timing thing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 272 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: I think for you, I think all the things you 273 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: expect you're gonna get Okay, maybe not happening this year, 274 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: but the trajector to be on the discipline you have 275 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: to work as have. It's inevitable that everything you think 276 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: you should get out of it. I think definitely, and 277 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: I think the people follow you know that. 278 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, man, I really didn't 279 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: have expectations when I went online to just share my 280 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: story or whatever. I was like, oh, my fans will 281 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: see this. But then it ended up getting like eight 282 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: million views across platforms. I didn't That wasn't what I expected. 283 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: I expected. I was like, yeah, I'm just I hope 284 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: to get my money back. So yeah, I want people 285 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: to see it. I hope to get my money back. 286 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: But but I worked really hard on this project, man, 287 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: Like whenever I went to shoot it, my father had 288 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: been diagnosed with cancer. 289 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, wait a minute, I have to stop this 290 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: right now. 291 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: Wait a second, Wait a second. Laugh. 292 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: My dad passed away about a year ago, and I 293 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: had a box of what nigga, you laughed? 294 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 6: Isn't that one of the most memorable clips I told you. 295 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying you. 296 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 5: Stories your father was diagnosed with cancer too, not. 297 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: That, but it was just an emotional part. 298 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 5: Okay, go ahead, so. 299 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: That I appreciate your empathy. Brother. So he uh, it 300 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: was my mom, him and my mom. Uh, they had 301 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: never even been on a plane before and they got 302 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: on the plane to go to Chicago for my special Yeah. 303 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: That was a huge deal, a lot of like I've 304 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: like my entire siblings, like all of my siblings, I 305 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: want to bait like everybody got out to support it, 306 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, to see that type of you know, belief 307 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: from my family, man really meant a lot to me. 308 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: And you, like I said, the success that I don't 309 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: talk about, like I bought the house that I was 310 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: raised in from my parents and then and then you know, 311 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: gave my dad the deed on like Father's Day and 312 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: just being able to do that stuff. But I think 313 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: that stuff isn't necessarily cool. It is cool, No, no, no, 314 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: it is. It is, but it's not it's not what 315 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: we celebrate as much. 316 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 6: It seems like I don't know, no, no, no. 317 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not celebrated. 318 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: That's what we call generational wealth and the fact for 319 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: your parents. See, I like stuff like that because it 320 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: encourages more people to do more right. And you know 321 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: the reason I talk about a lot of this stuff, 322 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: especially when it comes to generational wealth. Is a lot 323 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: of times we like to show success from the call 324 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: we drive and the jewelry we have and the watches. 325 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: And I'm guilty of it as well sometimes too. But 326 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: also I like to make sure that my kids collegees 327 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: are paid for, that my kids start off with. You know, 328 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: my daughter graduated from co legit I was able to 329 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: buy her a home, her first home. She starts at zero. 330 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: You know the fact that paid for my parents' crib. 331 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: Those those are the fly things to me. 332 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: Those are fly the fly. 333 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: The Louis Vatine shirt that you got on it is cool, 334 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: but those are the fly. 335 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 6: Like how emotional I can only my mom stage for 336 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 6: a cancer survivor, so I can only imagine how emotional 337 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 6: it was for you having your dad be there and 338 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 6: because it's such a people don't understand that you've been 339 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 6: through a cancer battle of like how it weighs on 340 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 6: you and how strenuous it is. But to be able 341 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 6: to bring laughter during that time, yeah, I know they 342 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 6: had to be emotional for you. 343 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: It was huge. It was huge and uh, my father, man, 344 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: he's super proud, Like I'll never. I'll never forget that. 345 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: How's he doing now? 346 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: He's see proud black man. He won't tell you, he 347 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: won't tell you. We never know how this nigga's doing. 348 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: You know, we're like, hey, can you give us an update? 349 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, everything's cool, So we never know. You just 350 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: have to gauge how it looks. 351 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: Say you're one of eight kids, Yeah, where were you? 352 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: You're the middle middle child. 353 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 3: So half of them support your half of them don't 354 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: funk with you. 355 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: No, so that my family actually didn't know how successful 356 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: I was. 357 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: Really Yeah, when did they find out? 358 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: They went like one when they went to the special 359 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: and saw like I sold out the House of Blues 360 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: multiple shows, and they. 361 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: Were like what And then I really don't have what 362 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: your siblings? 363 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: No, No, we get in a group chat every day. 364 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: We just don't talk about money, We don't talk about 365 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: any none of that matters. That changed, Yeah, no it doesn't. 366 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: Christmas time we've done Secret Santa every year and they know, no, 367 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: they know whoever get Ryan is gonna, they know what 368 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: time it is. So but they didn't like I did 369 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: a show at UH in Virginia Beach. I did a 370 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: weekend I sold out the whole weekend and my older 371 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: brother was there and he was like, Man, all these 372 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: people here, they probably gonna become fans of yours after this. 373 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: I was like, they all paid to see me, they 374 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: already fans. 375 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: Damn. 376 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: He was like, people come to see you like that. 377 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: And it's like, Bro, and I'm talking about this is 378 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: I've been touring like yearly since like twenty sixteen. This 379 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: is like twenty twenty three. 380 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: A lot of times people don't acknowledge nothing but the flash. 381 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. It's not that people 382 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: don't appreciate substance. They do, but the audience that appreciates substance, 383 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: I think is a much smaller group than and I 384 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: think it's by design, you know what I mean. I'm 385 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: not saying that, you know, something is wrong with our people. 386 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: It's just people love. Like when I grew up, MTV 387 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: cribs was a thing for a reason. Before that, lifestyles 388 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: of the Richard Famous was a thing for a reason. 389 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: People want to attach themselves to maybe a life they 390 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: can't see, and if you look regular to people, they 391 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: don't gravitate to it as much. I think that's probably 392 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: the better way to put it. 393 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's relevant in our community. 394 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 395 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 4: It is different. There's a difference, man. 396 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: But like I said, to be able to be able 397 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: to pull a audience the black side and the white 398 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 3: side and don't lose anything like some people when they 399 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: do this shit, like you're like, oh, when he front 400 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: of a white audience. 401 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: He's this way. 402 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: When he's from a black audience, he's that way. But 403 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: Ryan has ability that it doesn't matter. You don't see 404 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: I know it sounds crazy, I'm saying the same thing. 405 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: You don't see color. You just see a person's a storyteller. 406 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: It's got the wit hitting you with some stuff. It's 407 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: just it's a totally different. 408 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: Vibe, and it's it's intentional. I don't be honest with you, man, 409 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: I didn't even know before I went to Canada to 410 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: do a run of shows. I didn't know my perspective 411 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: was so black, like African American black until I went 412 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: to Canada and ain't no niggas there. There's black people there, 413 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: but we ain't there, and my perspective was so Black American. 414 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: I was losing the audience and I was like, I 415 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: didn't realize that my perspective was so limited. So I 416 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: started to work on broadening my perspective because I don't 417 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: want to leave anybody, Like if I if you can't 418 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: follow the joke, I want it to be because you stupid, 419 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: not because I left you out. 420 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: Culturally, that's all that comes with experiences like me coming 421 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: from DC. I had a very very very strong Southern accent, 422 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: and I had to work on in the South. If 423 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: people we call that country from DC to New York, 424 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 3: I signed the country as well. And I had to 425 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 3: work on my diction because I got tired of motherfucker 426 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: saying what did you just say? 427 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 4: So I had to work on that. 428 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: You know, So how important you think that is for 429 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: you to be able to connect all across the board. 430 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: No, it's really important. I think I have like control issues. 431 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: I want to be understood. If you don't laugh at 432 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: something I say because you think it's not funny, I 433 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: can deal with that. But if there's if I feel 434 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: like I didn't communicate it correctly, then you know that's 435 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: gonna bother me, and then I want to I want 436 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: to fix that, Like I don't know, that's just always. 437 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: That's the thing in my personal life too. 438 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: You remember your worst show? You ever you ever got 439 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: booed like you remember your worst show? 440 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Nah, I've never been booed. I always I always remember 441 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: my worst show. Though I invited a crush of mind 442 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: to the show. She sat front row and I bombed 443 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: right in front of her, and H damn, yeah, I 444 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: don't think i've seen her sin this. Uh, I wasn't 445 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: that long ago, like ten years? 446 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 4: Who wasn't Who wasn't? 447 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 3: Like sometimes the girl No, no, no, my brain is 448 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: somewhere else always asks this question when someone thinks about 449 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: doing comedy. 450 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: Who was it? 451 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: Was it somebody in your family or life that said 452 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: you have to do it? 453 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: Stop making me laugh, you gotta do it. 454 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: No, because my humor is a little different, and I 455 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: love the art of comedy. You know, being funny in 456 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: a space versus being funny on stage is two different 457 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: skill sets. There's so much thoughtfulness to being funny on stage. 458 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 5: He don't understand that because. 459 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: I think you know, whenever you're whenever you're in a 460 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: space with many people, a conversation is usually already happening, 461 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: so the connection is already there. So you all, whatever 462 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: you're going to say in that moment is relevant to 463 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: the conversation. When you're on stage, you're creating the conversation 464 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: and the relevancy, and it's your job to communicate it 465 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: in a way that makes them laugh. So the idea 466 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: of just being funny in your day to day and 467 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: that's going to carry over. You know everybody that's a 468 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: that's a gift. Very few have. Donelle is funny like that. 469 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: Carlos Miller is funny like that. But there's not There's 470 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: not a lot of people who are so funny that 471 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: it can translate like that. I've seen Donelle walk into 472 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: the audience. He forced the connection of one of you. 473 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: You know, you'll understand what I'm saying, yo, and then 474 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: he'll put He'll like it's it's insane. 475 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: But let me ask you, you know, with so many 476 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: comedians supporting you, right if you listen, like you know, 477 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: I heard Kevin Hard and Charlemagne do an interview, and 478 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: I've heard Kevin support you, you know, support you. I 479 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: guess verbally, do you feel like there should be more 480 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 2: support with comedians where they actually help because they have 481 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: other opportunities Because you know, we all see what's going 482 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: on with Netflix and some of those other things. 483 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: But they do. They do. I think the conversations aren't 484 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: had a lot. But Dave Chappelle, whenever I put it 485 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: out or whatever, he texts me. He's told me before, 486 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, if I need anything, I can reach out. 487 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: When we did when fifty was opening he did the 488 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: big show down in louisianas the Shreveport I was like, 489 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: literally in Dave's green room and he told fifty, if 490 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: you're working on something comedy or whatever, this is one 491 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: of the better comedy writers of today. You need to 492 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: book him to do something. Those things do happen, you know. 493 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: I like, have you written on shows? No, So whenever 494 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: a time came for me to write on a show, 495 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: Aaron McGruder actually had reached out because they were working 496 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: on something, and I was like, man, the opportunity to 497 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: work with the creator of Boondocks would have been crazy, 498 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: but it got shelfed, so I didn't get the opportunity. 499 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, now. 500 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: Man, he is reaching out. 501 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like so with my special I got it 502 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: as a one time by because Patreon is a subscription 503 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: based and I don't want nobody to feel obligated to stay. 504 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: But the people who get the subscription you also get 505 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: my talk show. Slash podcast is coming, Kevin Hart's gonna 506 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: be on that, Charlemagne's gonna be on that, Jill Scott 507 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: method man a lot. There's a lot of support from 508 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: entertainers and they agreed to this before that video even 509 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: came out, you know what I mean. And within the 510 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: industry there's always a lot of support in people, but 511 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: a lot of us artists aren't decision makers, so they're like, 512 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: what can I do that, you know what I mean. 513 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: They can use their popularity and their platform to draw 514 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: more attention to you, but at the end of the day, 515 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: it's still on the decision makers to make that decision. 516 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, the decision makers didn't pick me, 517 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: but the people did, so let me do. I'll put 518 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: my own money up to give the people what they've 519 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: been asking for. 520 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 3: And you know, with that add to it's a slow grind, 521 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 3: but it's still a grind. 522 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 523 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: It's like, you can it's easy for it. You be 524 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: like this, oh I want to do, this is gonna blood. 525 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 3: But I think the path that you're doing, how you're 526 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: doing building relationships with some of the top people, being 527 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 3: respected and being funny. 528 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: Like I said, the. 529 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 3: Success whatever success you, it's already my opinion, it's already 530 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: mapped out. It's going to happen. You just got to 531 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: stay the course and it's everything's going to fall into place. 532 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know what story because I don't laughing. 533 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 4: No, I'm telling you something. 534 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: It's so hard for me to laugh at the motherfucker 535 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: And I didn't want to laugh, right, I'm like this, 536 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 3: but it was just like, man, it was just seeing 537 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: you perform. It was a breath of fresh air man, 538 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: especially from seeing so much garbage, and like right now 539 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: the biggest thing now. And I'm not knocking anybody doing 540 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 3: the crowd work, but I remember when I first started 541 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 3: that wasn't respected that side of comedy. It was like 542 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: I did forty five minutes, Yeah, but you did thirty 543 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: minutes worth of crowd work. But now it's a different thing, 544 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: and it's hard. It's so refreshing to see somebody like 545 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: it's up because it's easy. You can't tell these young 546 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: guys that have the following, you can't tell them to 547 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: work in their craft because it used to be if 548 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 3: you want to pussy, if you want the money off 549 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: of this, guess what. 550 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: You had to do. You had to be good. 551 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: You had to be good. 552 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: Now you don't got to be good. 553 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 3: They got me the money, they getting the accolades, They're 554 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: getting the money before they good, and it's hard to 555 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: tell him you should work on this. And was like, 556 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 3: you know, I just made three hundred thousand on Instagram. Yeah, 557 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: they don't have that. They don't have the thing to 558 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: make them want to be better. 559 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: And that was I didn't want to fall into that. 560 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: I didn't want to fall into that. Like I even 561 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: monetized my social media late. I remember a lot of 562 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: people were like, you're not monetizing, you just missing out 563 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: on money. I was like, I don't want that to 564 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: be my motivation. 565 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: Put that first check you is easy. 566 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, when you get when the money that come 567 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: from social media is dumb, it's really dumb. But I 568 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: didn't want that to be I wanted to be one 569 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: of the best, and I didn't want I'm gonna tell 570 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: you the story that bothers me so much is the 571 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: Bernie Mack story. Why he like he doesn't have that 572 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: hour special because he was at a time where you 573 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: had to be picked. Yeah, and they wouldn't pick him, 574 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: even though he was so popular amongst us that he 575 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: would sell out theaters and that other comedians like when 576 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: we when you can look at def Comedy Gym view 577 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: Bad Boys of Comedy, comedians up doing impressions of Denzel 578 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: Washington and Bernie Mack. Denzel Washington was our biggest star, 579 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: and the other recognizable voice within our community that people 580 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: wanted to do the most was Bernie Mack. And he 581 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: still wasn't picked. It took him dominating on Kings of Comedy, 582 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: which he wasn't considered the guy, you know, industry wise 583 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: before he really got And I just like I wish 584 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: that he had the opportunity to self produce because that 585 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: one stand up is really all most people have it. 586 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: I'm not exactly the same, but it's some similarities. Like 587 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: even with the testimony you did, was like this, okay, 588 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: how come what he did was eventually he showed. 589 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: In the numbers. Yeah, he showed the numbers. 590 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: This is this, this is this? How does that translate? 591 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: And somebody foually that got I think I forgot who 592 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: was the showrun? He finally connected with the right crew 593 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: and then they saw it and he basically was like 594 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: this this what to tell you, motherfucker. 595 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think it was like cracked me from wrong. 596 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 6: All of that fight shouldn't have happened because from the 597 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 6: minute that he mic, we knew he was the guy. 598 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 6: And you actually had a quote I wanted to actually 599 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 6: if you still felt this way. You said, fame hasn't 600 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 6: cared about talent for. 601 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: A while now, for a while now, and I don't. 602 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: But this is the funny part. They moved the goal post. 603 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: They moved a gold post. Fame hasn't cared about talent 604 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: for a while, so but now they don't even give 605 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: opportunities to the famous. So it's like like, what do 606 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: you do? Like you can be really like what are 607 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: they looking for? Are they searching for anything? Because you 608 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: can go I'm really like, I'm really skilled, I'm really talented, 609 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: or you get Nah, we're not giving it to that 610 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: right now. And it was like this person has a 611 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: bigger follower than you, will give it to you. Well, 612 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: this person has a bigger follower than them. Yeah, we're 613 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: not doing followings right now. It's like it's like, what 614 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: is the criteria I would look, I'll do I'll do 615 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: the work necessary to let me know where the I 616 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: think that's one of the most difficult things just for 617 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: us within this space is if you set a criteria, 618 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: we'll hit it. But when there's no criteria, now you 619 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: you have us like waiting on you to make a 620 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: decision on us. And once I realized that, I was like, 621 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not waiting on nobody. 622 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: No more about with you and Kevin Durant, Why are 623 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: you Kevin Durant got upset with you. 624 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: Oh, Kevin Durant. So, Kevin Durant loves to go back 625 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: and forth with people on social media. And you know, 626 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: we had a difference of opinion, and I'm cool with 627 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: difference of opinion. He said, he said offense wins championships, 628 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: which is not a saying, has never been a saying 629 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: in any sport. Yeah, and that's what we disagreed. And 630 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: then he called me a trash comedian. And that's when 631 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: I knew he was familiar. This is what I'm talking about. 632 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: It's certain words, the in word in comedy. 633 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: It's like, it's hard to go back to trash anything whack. 634 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 4: Those are fighting words in the way in the world 635 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 4: of comedy that you roasted. 636 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: The man's just horrible. Trash is trash trash. That's how 637 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: my whole day went. Like if you like, you know 638 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: people now they set up, they try party. You see, 639 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: they show with how they do that. If that, if 640 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: that had done that, all you would have saw is 641 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: me like sitting at the trash everywhere. 642 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 5: But that's what But that's I said. But if you 643 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 5: know you funny though, it's like. 644 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's why I think. I think he didn't know. 645 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: That's why you felt like, yeah, I had to show 646 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: him he don't know, and let me let me show you. 647 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 5: Show you something. I like that. 648 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: But the thing is, like, y'all asked me about that, 649 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: why do you take it so personal? It is the 650 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: trigger trash Cordy in Whact when when Kramer went off 651 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: at the last factory that year and he just was 652 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 3: flowing down, you know what triggered him? Somebody, Yo, you 653 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: ain't funny, That's like, what the fuck are you talking about? 654 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: And especially when you know you know you're not trash 655 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: is so sensitive? 656 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: It's not comedians. Let me tell you something sensitive, y'all. Y'all, 657 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: y'all ignore when everybody else is. You gotta remember Erica 658 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: Badu said it best keep in mind, I'm an artist 659 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: and I'm sensitive about my ship. 660 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 6: But I thought so many shots though, So I feel 661 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 6: like y'all moved from sensitivity. 662 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I just I don't feel like I was 663 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: sensitive in that moment. I kept it basketball. I talked 664 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: about basketball and that he said I was a trash 665 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: commed he said that he made it personal. I would 666 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: I kept it basketball, but I was like, since we 667 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: want to get personal. 668 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 5: You want to be finding, you want to. 669 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: Be Yeah, you want to step into my arena. Let's 670 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: let's see how you fair. I can't beat you in basketball, 671 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: but I promise you I'm way better at this. 672 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: Like you said, well you you put it in one lesson. 673 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: Certain comics aren't like you, like y'all fuck with everybody 674 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: like your style. He's not a style of comic that's 675 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: going to be like trying. 676 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: To roast certain people like that. 677 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 3: You got Michael Blackson, perfect example, Michael Blackson, and I 678 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: love him. He's a provocateur. He's going to push the 679 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 3: button and he's going to cross the line. But it's 680 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 3: like a person like Ryan, person like myself. They don't 681 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: cross the line. When people come at him like that. 682 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: It is I know it's easy for y'all say why 683 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 3: y'all take person because this is our shit man. 684 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is the crazy part when they say 685 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: people take shots. Michael Blackson is a good example. Michael 686 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: Blackson is roasting you with love. I run into him 687 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: in the airport. He's like, what you doing in here? 688 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: You ugly nigga? And then be like, Yo, were about 689 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: to go to Ghana in a couple of months. You 690 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean, let me know if you've available, 691 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fly you out. I'm gonna show you some 692 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: stuff where I come from, like in Africa. You know 693 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: what I mean. That ain't somebody who hate you. 694 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 3: He just he just loves I had him on my 695 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 3: podcast and it's so funny. A lot of people don't know, 696 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 3: like what he did in regard to his village during 697 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: that school and I was like, wow, I know you 698 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 3: look at him and he talked. I'm like, why isn't 699 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 3: this being celebrated, And a lot of people when I 700 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 3: passed a lot of people saying I didn't even. 701 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 4: Know about it. 702 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 5: Maybe I don't know. I think people just look at 703 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 5: because I know what you're talking about. 704 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 6: But like when you got y'all are like, we look 705 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 6: to you guys for relief a little bit, and I 706 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 6: know you talk. There was a sitdown that you did 707 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 6: where you talked about how comedy, especially black comedy, is 708 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 6: kind of like the relief for a lot of like 709 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 6: traumas and different things. And when I watched that, I 710 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 6: was like, Okay, I kind of get what he's saying, 711 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 6: and maybe that's why I don't see Like for me, 712 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 6: I look at you, it's like, Okay, you're the funny guy. 713 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 6: So when you're being upset about something, it's like, why 714 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 6: you upset, You the funny guy. 715 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 5: Or when you're responding, it's like, no, you're the funny guy. 716 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 5: Just be funny. But it's like you're our relief. So 717 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 5: it's like it's hard for us to see y'all as 718 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 5: anything but that. 719 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes, and that's messed up that y'all don't see us 720 00:34:59,480 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: as people. 721 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 3: Smokey Robinson, people say I'm the life of the party 722 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 3: because I tell a joker too, But take a good 723 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 3: look in my face and you see I'm frowning. We 724 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 3: as comics, as much as someone going to the show's 725 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: therapeutic for them, is therapeutic for us, and the best 726 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 3: comments are the ones that whatever they deal with life, 727 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 3: they know how to go up, go on stage and 728 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 3: talk about things in trouble in them. 729 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: Right on my special I talk about I talk about 730 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: my relationship. I have a fractured relationship with my mother. 731 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 1: I talk about that. 732 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: I talk about that must have been difficult to do 733 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: that in front of him. 734 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: Oh what like she she had something to say, but 735 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: she was there, she supported So I always love her 736 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: for that. 737 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 4: Fractured relationship. 738 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: Man, whenever, especially in our community, the woman the matriarch 739 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: of the family. You know, she can do no wrong 740 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: at times, and then she does do wrong. You gotta 741 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 1: have that grace. You don't ever disconnect from your mother. 742 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: And I made the decision not to really speak to 743 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: my mother for several years. 744 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 4: Oh that's tough. 745 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I talk about that in the set. You 746 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: know what I mean. The mother of my children almost died, 747 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, carrying our children. I talk about that. I 748 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: talk about That's what I'm saying. I turn those those 749 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: things into levity. I talk about race, I talk about 750 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: political correctness, I talk about relationships. I talk about everything, 751 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: because there aren't spaces for that. I talk about suicide. 752 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: I talk about. And I think people don't realize because 753 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: if you don't go to my shows, you don't know 754 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: they've been. There have been many black men who walk 755 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: up to me and go, you know, I have a 756 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: kind of a fractured relationship with my mother and there's 757 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: no space for us. Nobody's talking about what it is 758 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: to be a black man in that space, to look 759 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: at the woman who created you and not feel the connection. 760 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: That's the person we want to love us the most. 761 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: You know. The people who don't feel that love, where 762 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: do they go for levity? And that's what I try 763 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: to provide. 764 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 2: But do you give a grace? 765 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: Right? Oh? I give her grace? 766 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: And I say that is you know, we came up 767 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: in the ever where, you know, especially black families, it 768 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 2: was mind your business, a kids, stay in a kid's place, 769 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 2: and they didn't show emotion. They didn't talk about their bills, 770 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: they didn't talk about none of that. You had to 771 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: figure it out when you figured it out, right, So 772 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 2: you have to give her that. Like my kids are differently. 773 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: They know everything that's going They know when daddy got 774 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 2: a bad day, daddy having a good day. They know 775 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: when daddy get a big check. When that they ain't 776 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: got no check. They know everything because we're more I 777 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: would think we're younger parents and we're more relatable. So 778 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 2: as long as you're giving your mom. 779 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 1: I had to give her grace because my mom's super young. 780 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: My mom had me as a teenager and I wasn't 781 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: even a first child, so you know, understanding, I had 782 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: my first child at twenty six and I wasn't ready. 783 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: So having my third one at like seventeen, you know, 784 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't even imagine what. You know, she never had 785 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: a chance to become an adult before she started raising 786 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: children of her own. Was your mother trafficked? No, she 787 00:37:59,320 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: was married. 788 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 4: I was on stage the other day and I really 789 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 4: do the stage. I realized that my father trafficed my mother. 790 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 5: What what is happening? 791 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry? 792 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: What did you want to talk about it? 793 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 5: Like, not whenever your mom got traffic tell us about it? 794 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 4: No, this is your show. 795 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 2: But your mother had three children by the age of seventeen. 796 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: Four by nineteen by nineteen Yeah, so was your father 797 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: a lot older? Was it? He's older? Yeah, he's older. 798 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: I talk about that in the special. 799 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 5: What was that dynamic like for you? Though? 800 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 6: Just because I mean the relationship ended up fracture, but 801 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 6: like coming up and your mom is growing up with 802 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 6: you with three other kids for other kids, that was like, 803 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 6: that was your sister. 804 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: Was like when you see her as mom, that's mom 805 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: because she we weren't raised like she's. We weren't raised 806 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: by grandma like my parents were married, they raised us together. 807 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't until you get to like you get to 808 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: become an adult, like I'm thirty eight. My mom was 809 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: thirty eight when I was twenty one and I had 810 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: older siblings. That's crazy, that's crazy. That's when I started 811 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: to see how young she was. Before it was always 812 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: that's my mom. 813 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 2: Club and actually see your yeah. 814 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: Man, listen, no, yeah, but she my mom is I 815 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: and I deal with It's so funny because now because 816 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: I didn't deal with the stuff that she dealt with, 817 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: it's like I'm more mature than her now because she 818 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: never got a chance to mature. She had to be 819 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: that fourteen year old girl and then turned mom and 820 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: then never really got the chance to grow us up 821 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: because she had to focus on everybody else. And at 822 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: times now I feel like I'm older than her. 823 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 5: When she came and saw you, was that her first 824 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 5: time hearing the jokes about your relationship. 825 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but I've talked about our relationship on podcasts 826 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: and I never said what exactly was or whatever she 827 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: did because it was you know, that's between us. But 828 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 1: the thing is she won't admit to it. And there'll 829 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: be people who watch this who know what I'm talking about. 830 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: When you confront your parents about what it is or 831 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: what trauma they brought to you or what they did, 832 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: and it's not that you're saying you're a bad parent, 833 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: this is my experience of you. And then the first 834 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: thing they'll say is, also, I was the worst parent ever. No, 835 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here if you were a bad parent, 836 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,479 Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't purchase the home and give you that. 837 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: You know, if I thought you were a bad parent, 838 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't praise you the way i'd do if you 839 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: were a bad parent. This is where I feel like 840 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: something went wrong in my development and I just want 841 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: you to see what's happening to me. I'm coming to 842 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: you because I'm trusting you. This is still me being 843 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: vulnerable with you. They can't register it like that you're 844 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: taking a shot. 845 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 3: I have a daughter, How does that affect the relationship 846 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 3: did you had did you have with your mother? How 847 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 3: does that affect the relationship? And you're raising your daughter? 848 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: So my I have a ten year old daughter, seven 849 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: year old son. So what I realized is because my 850 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: parents wasn't affectionate, and I felt like I turned out okay, 851 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: that there was no need to give my children that 852 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: kind of affection. You know, I didn't deem affection necessary. 853 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 3: Well, you know what in Korean culture because I was stationary. 854 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 3: That's Korean fathers. They have no emotional connection with the kick. 855 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 3: Their only responsibility is to provide and protect all that 856 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: I love you and everything they are. Korean fathers are 857 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 3: the toughest fathers to have period. 858 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was really like that. My son, you know, 859 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: he's very affectionate, he's very sensitive and things like that, 860 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: and I was just like tough up, blah blah blah 861 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: blah blah. But I'm like, he's going to the person 862 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: he believes will protect him, and he trusting with these emotions. 863 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here going get over it. I ain't 864 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: even realizing what I'm doing to him. I'm drawing a 865 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: line of disconnecting with him. He doesn't feel safe around me. Now. 866 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 3: Is that because of the relationship you have with your father? 867 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 3: Is that passed on the generations? 868 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: No, man, my father was my dad. Oh my god. 869 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: If you have older parents, your parents still here, you 870 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: might have seen this from your father. 871 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 4: You have father's dad. 872 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, sorry to hear that. Yeah, Dad, I love you, 873 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: See you when I get back to Charlotte. 874 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 4: So my dad, y'all got your fathers all in your life. 875 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: No, it's not a flex man. Yeah, it's not a flex. 876 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 5: So, I mean my dad halfway and half way, y'all 877 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 5: depends on today. 878 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, stop rubbing this. So my dad, he wasn't 879 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: very affectionate and I and you get older and you realize, 880 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, I remember how my grandmother was, and I 881 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: was like, oh, he probably didn't get a whole lot 882 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: of affection either. But my dad is super affectionate now. 883 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: He says I love you all the time. He calls 884 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: to see how you're doing, any cares and all that stuff. 885 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: He a completely different nigga than the nigga I grew 886 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: up with, and that took a while for me to 887 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: get used to. Like he would go, you know, he 888 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: would say I love you, over the phone. I'd be 889 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: like everything, okay, we're good. Yeah man, yeah, But grandfather 890 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: he'd be like, gone, my dad was he didn't do 891 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: he didn't do it like that. But now I'm so 892 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: like I kissed my son and my daughter every time 893 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: I see him, hug him every time. We can't get 894 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: off to you gotta we got it. Exchange I love 895 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: you or it's not. So it's up to you to 896 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 1: change it. It's up to you to recognize these things 897 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 1: because your your parents did the best they could, whether 898 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: you believe it or not. Even if you like, well, 899 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: they could have done better what they couldn't see how 900 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: many of us actually see the things that we do 901 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: that we're messing up. Somebody from somebody has to tell you. Usually, 902 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: somebody has to tell you how they're experiencing you. You 903 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: don't get to tell people how they should experience you. Absolutely. 904 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 3: How do you want your kids to see you? 905 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: Oh? I want my kids. I want my kids to 906 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: respect me, and I want my kids to be proud, 907 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: and they're not. They're not proud of me. 908 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm telling you you I don't know. Once you 909 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 4: voice something. 910 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 2: But no one else said they'll be proud they'll be 911 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 2: proud in the next couple of years. 912 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: Right. 913 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 2: Let me tell you why. Similar to you, my kids 914 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 2: they know they hit me on the radio, but they 915 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 2: don't know what it is. 916 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: They don't know what it is. 917 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: When people take pictures, they like, that's just dad. Still 918 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 2: not popping to them. But when they see me on TikTok, 919 00:44:53,160 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 2: so be with other people, don't I'll be like, see 920 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 2: me like when they see me on TikTok and the 921 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 2: Man Yo. 922 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: When Kevin Hart was on here and he said my name, 923 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: I showed my son and he said, why does he 924 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 1: know you? I was like, he was like, but he said, 925 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: casanat casanatus cool and like I when I had done 926 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: I had done TV movies and stuff like that, I'll 927 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: put it on the TV screen. It didn't mean nothing 928 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: to them. They saw I had a large following on YouTube. 929 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, my dad is really somebody. He on 930 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: YouTube with a lot of followers. 931 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 3: It was sol for me. When I did this character 932 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 3: on Soul. My son was like because the characters made 933 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 3: it to and that's how he got to get McDonald 934 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 3: happy meals every week because that was the toy thing. 935 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 3: He was like, my dad was in soul. And I 936 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 3: remember when when the Happy Mill discontinues that Dad, I 937 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 3: got a happy meal a day and I wasn't. 938 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 2: Really happy You're. 939 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 3: Not there no more than that's when he went back 940 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 3: to not fucking with me. 941 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 6: Before y'all get out of here, this is I'm changing 942 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 6: gears because I really want to hear your opinion on this. 943 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 6: So I was just this is breaking right now, not breaking, 944 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 6: but a lot of outlets are picking this up right now. 945 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 6: Eddie Murphy, he's a part of the No call Sheet documentary, 946 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 6: number one on the call Sheet documentary, and he talks 947 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 6: about Sidney Potier telling him to not do dramatic roles 948 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 6: in movies and to lead that up to like the 949 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 6: Denzels and things of that nature. I just want to 950 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 6: hear how y'all feel about that. Just hearing it, I 951 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 6: can give you all more context my personal. 952 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 4: Opinion on it. 953 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 3: If someone tells me what I can't do or shouldn't do, 954 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 3: that's gonna put the pack on me to want to 955 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 3: do it. And especially you can't understand Sidney Poitier's thing 956 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 3: on that. But you never know, like how Eddie wanted 957 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 3: to start, you know what I mean? Comedy might have 958 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 3: been the thing that he connected with it, but at 959 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 3: the same time he might have been wanted to be 960 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 3: considered a more dramatic actor opposed to like a comedy actor. 961 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: Stay Ryan, I think if he takes that advice, we 962 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: don't get Jimmy Early from dream Girls, and what a 963 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 1: shame that would have been. You see what I'm saying, 964 00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: Like you can, you can respect the greatest who ever 965 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,760 Speaker 1: do it. But just because they're one of the greatest 966 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: to ever do it doesn't mean that they won't set 967 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: limitations on you. And it's on you to not listen 968 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: to those limitations. Thank god Eddie Murphy didn't listen to that. 969 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: You know what I mean that. That's my first thought 970 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: is you know, and Eddie Murphy to me, is the 971 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: greatest talent to ever live. I've never seen anybody more 972 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 1: talented than that in all facets, That's what I'm saying. 973 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: I've never. 974 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 6: He said he turned down that they were putting together 975 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 6: a Malcolm Ximell's be and he turned it down because 976 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 6: he had basically had been in conversation for it and 977 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 6: he was talking to Sean was like, Hey, what do 978 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 6: you think about this? 979 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 5: And after that advice. He was like, you probably won't 980 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 5: do it. 981 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: Yep, And that was and that's sad. But I think 982 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: when people try to set limitations on you, they're thinking 983 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: about their own. As great as Sidney Poitier is, he 984 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,439 Speaker 1: probably was thinking about He probably thought that there were 985 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: you can't imagine. I don't think people can imagine a 986 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,959 Speaker 1: person like Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy is unimaginably talented. He's 987 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 1: literally a parrot. He can mimic anybody's voice, he can 988 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: mimic people's singing voice. But then he's talented within his 989 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: own right. Like his stand up is magnificent. His movies 990 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: are blockbusters. Saturday Night Live, he showed you I can 991 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: dominate sketch comedy and do that animation. He's Mushu and Moulan, 992 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 1: He's Donkey and Shrek. There's no avenue that he has 993 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 1: not dominated. He has hit records like, yeah, I understand 994 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: telling somebody to be you know, realistic. I guess that's 995 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: what you know. Maybe Sidney Poitier was thinking, but Eddie 996 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: Murphy doesn't fall into that. Neither does Jamie Fox. I 997 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: don't think a guy like DC young Fly falls into 998 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: that category. Is some people in this world who are 999 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 1: just so multifaceted and mostly talented that you actually limit 1000 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: the gift they could given to the world when you 1001 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: tell them to stay in their lane. 1002 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,439 Speaker 5: He said that Sidney said to him, you're a brother 1003 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,760 Speaker 5: for fresh air, and don't. 1004 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: F with that. Yeah. 1005 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 3: And then also that's a matter of opinion too, you 1006 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 3: have to subscribe to a Yeah. 1007 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: No, I think I think it was it was done, 1008 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: and I think he was looking out for him. I 1009 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: don't think people realize how how close you are from 1010 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: a bad movie from being forgotten or a bad performance 1011 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: from being forgotten. It happens, you know. I think also 1012 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: you got to think about in Sydney's time, he couldn't 1013 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 1: take a risk on a roll because if it didn't happen, 1014 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: it was it wasn't a space for him to come. 1015 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 4: Sid did an open mic involved, right. 1016 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: So you gotta But I don't think like even Kevin 1017 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: Hart came up here and said the exact opposite, you know, 1018 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: when he was talking to my generation of comics, he 1019 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 1: was like, don't make your main thing your only thing, right, 1020 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 1: you know. So that's I just think that's the evolution. 1021 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 3: That resonated with that part resonated with me. That was 1022 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 3: like loud and clear. 1023 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: That was clear. I thank you for that. 1024 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 3: That was That was something that so many people and 1025 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 3: there's so many different lanes and so many other avenues 1026 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 3: that you can do. I remember, want to remember they 1027 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 3: used to do the Mixed Type Mixed Tape Awards, yep, 1028 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 3: I remember, and you know those crowds used to be 1029 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 3: rowdy as hell and run run DMC. 1030 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 4: He run it. 1031 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 3: I mean those mixed tape boards. They'd be like, yo, 1032 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 3: fuck you get out of here. I never seen nobody 1033 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 3: when he went on stage he commanded that order. They 1034 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 3: got completely quiet. Then he was talking about hip hop 1035 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,760 Speaker 3: and he was like, hip hop is not just about 1036 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 3: being an MC. Hip hop is creating fashion. You have 1037 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 3: hip hop lawyers and they don't just limit it to 1038 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 3: music just MC just behind the scenes. I remember one 1039 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 3: time it was a quote from method Man. Mehan Man said, 1040 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 3: I'm tired of being a chump in the front. I 1041 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 3: want to be the MAC in the back. And what 1042 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,919 Speaker 3: Kevin said that it kind of all of those things 1043 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 3: resonated on what you can do in this business. 1044 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: And I hope whenever you know, me putting my money 1045 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: behind my own projects and I will do that for 1046 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: the rest of my career, whether anybody chooses me or not. 1047 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm always work towards my passion and I'm not gonna 1048 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: let anybody slam the door on my on my dreams. 1049 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: But I want to inspire my peers to do the same. 1050 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 1: Not just do the same in their own career, but 1051 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: come do it with me. Let's go, let's go make 1052 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: some stuff together. You got something you're passionate about. Let's 1053 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: put our money together, Let's get it done. Let's just 1054 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: get it done. 1055 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,919 Speaker 3: You know you're in our community. Easier said than done. 1056 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why it's easier said than done. 1057 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:47,760 Speaker 1: In our community. Black people love credit. They love credit. 1058 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: Like like you said, the method man said, you want 1059 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: to be the mac in the back. Not a lot 1060 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,479 Speaker 1: of us want to be the mac in the back. 1061 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 1: Like me. If I did a movie about my life story, 1062 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: people would expect me to play myself. Right, what if 1063 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: there's a better actor than me for this role, I'll 1064 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 1: move out the way. A lot of us won't move 1065 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: out of the way because we want credit. We rather 1066 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: our face be on the front of it than giving 1067 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: people the best product possible. And that but that comes 1068 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: from I believe just we go through life in our 1069 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: community without getting the credit we deserve. So whenever we 1070 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 1: get the opportunity to get it, we want all of it. 1071 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: And we can't move like that whenever we're wanting to 1072 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: be creative. So I just hope that this inspires people 1073 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 1: to go look for it. Yeah, go look at the audience. 1074 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: Go look for people you because when you think about it, 1075 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 1: some of the most popular people don't even do stand 1076 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: up the people you deal the point if you really 1077 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: want to enjoy stand up comedy, there are people a 1078 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: Lei Sadik is killing it, you know what I mean? 1079 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: You know you got people like name Lyn, you got 1080 00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 1: me you know even the way. Yeah, and you just 1081 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta go search it because they're not like 1082 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 1: in music, they used to have artists development that we 1083 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: just don't have that no more. So it's up to 1084 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,399 Speaker 1: the audience to go find us. 1085 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 2: But where can they find you? Where can they find 1086 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 2: your comedy special underratio? If they want to see it paid. 1087 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 1: For, go to You can go to my Instagram, right, 1088 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: but you go to Patreon type and Ryan Davis, it'll 1089 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: come up. Just go to Patreon type and Ryan Davis. 1090 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 2: It'll come up and if you want to see him live, 1091 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 2: he's performing at the Gramercy Theater on April. 1092 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,439 Speaker 1: Twelfth in here in New York. 1093 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 2: That's right, And we appreciate you for joining us, and 1094 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 2: thank you Donnelle for sitting due. Donnell's actually gonna be 1095 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 2: at the City Winery this weekend. So I appreciate both 1096 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 2: of you. Brothers man, thank you, thank you for donaver Stadase, 1097 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 2: Charlamagne and just without today. 1098 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but can I I don't even think Donnelle even remembers. 1099 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 1: But when we did, uh we did the Laugh Factory. 1100 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,280 Speaker 1: He was hosting. I wanted to close. Shout out to Lonnie. 1101 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 1: Lonnie is a tough judge of comics. 1102 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 4: Oh my god, we had so many beasts in the day. 1103 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: But yeah, she loves you, and that was the thing. 1104 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 1: She was like, I need somebody to close. I was like, 1105 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,399 Speaker 1: I can close. She was like I don't know about that, 1106 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: and then I was like, nah, let me, let me 1107 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: do it. And then I got there and Donnelle was hosting. 1108 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's probably why she so. But 1109 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: the show it was like me Donelle, miss pat JJ Williamson, 1110 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 1: Seawan Jones. It was it was like they were bringing it. 1111 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,840 Speaker 1: And then I did the first show and the second 1112 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: show when Donelle brought me up, he said, there's some 1113 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: people in this game that people don't know. They're like, 1114 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 1: you don't know who they are one day and then 1115 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 1: the next day they're one of the biggest comedians. I 1116 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: think this guy might be one of them. Wow, you 1117 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,879 Speaker 1: probably don't even remember, but that's how he brought me up. 1118 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, I proved the Donelle 1119 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to be. 1120 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was like for me because it's again 1121 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 3: that three years ago. 1122 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's because I'd like, it's whatever. 1123 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 3: People want to say that I know talent when when 1124 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 3: I see it right and that room, I mean, the 1125 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 3: thing that impressed me the most. People could go up 1126 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 3: there and they can have a good set, but it's 1127 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 3: the way he did it, the subject matter, and you 1128 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 3: could tell it was somebody that didn't do the easy route. 1129 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 3: It's like, this is who I am. And the level 1130 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 3: of confidence. I was like, that's a bad motherfucker. And 1131 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 3: I've seen people they're going to these spots and they 1132 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 3: feel like they got to perform a certain way. They've 1133 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 3: seen this guy do that. That works for him. But 1134 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 3: the ship was so original. That's why when you say underrated, 1135 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,919 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, who's rating you? 1136 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: Well, they don't know, That's what I'm saying. They want me. 1137 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 1: Being underrated speaks to if I was rated properly, they 1138 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 1: would talk like you talk right. 1139 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, well definitely go check it out for yourself so 1140 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 2: you can see the brother, Ryan Davis, and again, thank 1141 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 2: you for joining. 1142 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: Us, you for having men down there. 1143 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 4: Thank you brother. 1144 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, and you see down there. We ain't make 1145 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,720 Speaker 2: no booty jokes today. Nothing. 1146 00:55:54,880 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 4: I missed the movie. No, no, no, it is Ryan Davis. 1147 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 2: It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, thank you about now. 1148 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 1149 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club. 1150 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 1: H