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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lalli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: and this is the drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to our number two. And we didn't do a mock

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Speaker 1: draft on Monday, Matt, because everything was happening.

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Speaker 2: Oh's too much turmoil. Yeah, questionable to even do it today,

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Speaker 2: to be honest.

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Speaker 1: Well but a little bit. Yeah, Like I think we

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Speaker 1: have a better idea of more app to take a receiver,

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Speaker 1: more have to take a center right right, you know,

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Speaker 1: those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: And they still will add some pieces before that gets

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Speaker 2: to this point.

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Speaker 1: So I'm on Profootballnetwork dot COM's mock drafter and they

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Speaker 1: do have the Deontay Johnson terms in there. So because

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Speaker 1: you have one pick one seventy eight.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of draft picks that have changed in

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days. Yeah, including the compicks and

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Speaker 2: of course this so let's do it all right, stick in,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm psyched.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So we're up now at pick twenty. Okay, we

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Speaker 1: do have some three trade offers. The Jaguars are on

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Speaker 1: the phone. They have picked twenty four and they're offering

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Speaker 1: us their twenty twenty five second round draft pick to

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Speaker 1: come up to twenty, and they also want one seventy eight.

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Speaker 2: It's fair, it's fair.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to give up two

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Speaker 1: picks in this draft. I mean, it's not great for radio. No,

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Speaker 1: let's see what a nice pick. Let's see what else

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Speaker 1: is there. Oh okay, So the cults are on the phone.

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Speaker 1: All they want is pick twenty. They want to give

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Speaker 1: us pick forty six, pick eighty two. They're twenty twenty five, second, third,

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Speaker 1: and fifth rounders. Oh, I don't think I can go

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Speaker 1: back that far to trade out of the first round. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a reg I'm just going to reject that one.

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Speaker 2: They've already picked. They're in the top nineteen.

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Speaker 1: And the Bengals run the phone with a similar offense,

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Speaker 1: and it's forty nine eighty ninety seven their second third

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Speaker 2: Next year, Jacksonville would listen to. If there's five guys

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Speaker 2: I like on the on the board.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's what's available, and let's.

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Speaker 2: We could even make that a third and try to

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Speaker 2: get a pick this year or something. Yeah, we could

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Speaker 2: try to.

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Speaker 1: So JJ McCarthy is still there, he doesn't interest us,

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Speaker 1: And Thomas is still there that interesting that interests us?

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Speaker 1: H Jerson, Newton is there, Jackson, Powers Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Is there Chops of Interest yet again?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Chop Robinson, Cooper, Dejean, Byron, Murphy, kool Ad McKinstry, Tyler, Geiton, Keyon, Coleman,

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Speaker 1: bow Nick's, Graham Barton, Donnie Mitchell. So there's not as

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Speaker 1: many guys there.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go back that far.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go back that far either, with

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Speaker 1: what's available.

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Speaker 2: No, I liked two guys at this pick. It was Powers,

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Speaker 2: Johnson and Thomas. Yeah, that that to me is too

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Speaker 2: scary to go back five because I don't think Thomas

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Speaker 2: will fall.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think he will either.

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville could be trading up for Power Johnson. They're not

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Speaker 2: trading for McCarthy. Yeah, they could be Powered trading for Thomas.

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Speaker 1: And I don't I don't know that. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you look at what's coming up, the team's coming up

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Speaker 1: after us. Jacksonville had already traded back once. That's why

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Speaker 1: they're at twenty four because they were at seventeen before.

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Speaker 1: So you had, uh who moved up? Looks like Dallas

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Speaker 1: moved up to go get fluaga.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So a lot of tackles went though.

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Speaker 1: All the tackles are ye picked over except for Guiton.

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Speaker 2: Which is okay. I mean, yeah, he would even been

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Speaker 2: my third choice, but kind of a distant third.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know that he makes it if

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Speaker 1: we go down to twenty four, because you've got thrilled

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Speaker 1: that he does. Yeah, because you got Miami, you've got Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: Those are going to take a quarterback. Yeah, McCarthy's a

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Speaker 2: guy you want to get off the board, right, which

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'll be.

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Speaker 1: There at twenty I don't think he will either, but.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I think it comes down to center verse receiver.

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Speaker 1: I think you take receiver.

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Speaker 2: I think you do too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, take Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 2: He's really good or he's really intriguing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we're zipping along here and we are

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Speaker 1: now all is a nice pairing. We're up at fifty one.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna like this, so we got we do have

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Speaker 1: a trade offer. Seattle is on the phone. They want

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Speaker 1: fifty is our last pick now, and they want to

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Speaker 1: give us fifty seven and next year's second round pick. Wow.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to reject that though, because and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you why. All right, the top player of still available

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Speaker 1: is Zach Frazier.

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Speaker 2: Nice. Do you think you just want to click and

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the other guys available Troy Franklin, A

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Speaker 1: Roor Hero Cooper, BB Edgrin Cooper. We don't need Edgren.

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Speaker 2: Cooper now, oh no, no, I wouldn't consider that.

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Speaker 1: Takes that off the right, right, great straw is still there, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Cameron Kenchin's Patrick Paul Michael Hall Junior, Jatavian Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I think we agree that on March thirteenth, the two

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Speaker 2: biggest needs are center and wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: And we would fill them with our first two pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with players we like a lot. Yeah, yeah, there

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Speaker 2: it is. That's a great trade they offered us. It

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Speaker 2: breaks my heart to say no, yeh can't right, right, right, So.

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Speaker 1: We are now backup at pick eighty four, and the

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Speaker 1: Falcons are on the phone. All right, The Falcons are

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Speaker 1: offering with two trade offers. Actually, the Falcons are offering

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Speaker 1: eighty SI in one seven.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. I mean, we need five guys to come

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Speaker 2: up with and probably less to get there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I want one ninety seven, though

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Speaker 1: one ninety seven would give us another late pick that

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe we can try to turn that into a

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Speaker 1: The other trade offer is the Jets. They want eighty

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Speaker 1: four and one nine five four pick one to eleven

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Speaker 1: and next year's third round draft pick. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to move down that far.

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Speaker 2: No, that doesn't really to reject that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to reject that and.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we can work with the Falcons that he said.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to hide that for a second.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the top players available Ricky Piersaw nice, I know

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Speaker 1: I already took a receiver. They're very different, but they're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we can't assume that Mike Williams is a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're down three receivers right now, even if we

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Speaker 1: signed one. Oh yeah, that doesn't take two receivers off

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Speaker 1: the board in the draft.

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Speaker 2: No, right, right, And you can still back Boykin is

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Speaker 2: your fifth and special team or and that type of thing.

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Speaker 2: But I'm interted in Pearsall that's good value there too.

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Speaker 1: Cole Bishop, Okay, interesting, Jaylen McMillan is still there, will Shipley,

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Speaker 1: Brayln Allen Blake Koram, Bucky Irving, Jeremiah Trotter, McKinley Jackson,

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Speaker 1: the defensive tackle out of Texas A and m Ernardo Green,

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Speaker 1: Kaylen Bullock, Cage Stover, Dwayne Carter, Johnny Wilson. You want

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Speaker 1: a big receiver, there's a big receiver. Dominic Pooney, Austin Booker,

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Speaker 1: Mike Santa Stroll is still there.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's my favorite of the picks.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to risk five spots on Santa Strux?

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Speaker 1: It was two spots?

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Speaker 2: Is it two?

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Speaker 1: It's two spots to move down?

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Speaker 2: I'll risk it. I mean the chance of that being

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Speaker 2: Santa Strill and PEARSL, pearsall or Slim and none. But

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Speaker 2: I really hope Sandstril's there. Yeah, I'm willing to risk it.

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Speaker 2: You want to do it, but let's not.

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Speaker 1: What are we still do?

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Speaker 2: Let's counter though. Okay, so they want this pick in

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Speaker 2: our last or they're giving us a junk pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want the junk pick. I don't either,

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Speaker 1: So let's move down. Do you want to get a

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Speaker 1: pick next year, don't you.

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Speaker 2: I would love to, But I'd even be content turning

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Speaker 2: our fourth into their third, or more so like that early.

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Speaker 1: To turn one seventy eight into let's say one forty three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that. And I don't want

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Speaker 2: your junk open.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're coming up twenty five spots to go down two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, late in the draft. I mean, I think that's

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Speaker 2: a reasonable offer.

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Speaker 1: They did rejected that anything like that.

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Speaker 2: How about a future pick instead of that junk o

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Speaker 2: less gap.

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Speaker 1: Uh there's no really less gap to get unless we

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Speaker 1: want one ninety five eighty seven, and that really doesn't

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Speaker 1: We could try to trade maybe one twenty.

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Speaker 2: That's worth of the shot. We might be real happy that.

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Speaker 1: They have eighty six and eighty nine. What I'd really

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Speaker 1: like to do is get eighty four in one nineteen

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Speaker 2: I'll hurt that.

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Speaker 1: I'll offer it. Yeah, they're rejecting the I'm not surprised

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Speaker 1: So let's let's go with the other counter offer there

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Speaker 1: of eighty four and one twenty for eighty six and

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Speaker 1: one oh nine, which is fair. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. That's enough for me to do it. That

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Speaker 1: has been accepted. Okay, all right, So were the two

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Speaker 1: picks Ricky Piarasol and Jaylen McMillan two receivers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I think we take sanstru on her throat? Done? Yeah, pick, okay,

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Speaker 2: might be. I think we're done at corner.

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Speaker 1: We're done at corner.

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Speaker 2: Done a linebacker basically, I mean, unless it's the last pick,

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Speaker 2: they would think.

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Speaker 1: So we're back up. We're back up at one oh nine.

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Speaker 1: And there is a project tackle here that I kind

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Speaker 1: of like, and that would be Blake Fisher at a

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Speaker 2: He could be your starting right tack. He could be

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Speaker 2: one possibly. Yeah, that's not bad at all.

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Speaker 1: Also available Dwayne Carter, Austin Booker, James Williams. I think

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Speaker 1: he's more of a linebacker though, they yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Blake Fisher, Jermaine Burton, esteam A del Mar Glaize, the

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle out of Maryland, Tyron Hopper, the linebacker from Missouri.

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Speaker 1: Jonah Ellis ed drusher out of Utah, Dadrian Taylor Demerson,

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Speaker 1: the safety out of Texas tack Fisher stands out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you take that take a tackle, to take

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Speaker 1: a tackle and play soon. Yeah, yep, Blake Fisher's to pick.

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Speaker 2: Okay two alignment. That makes me happy. Yeah, so safety

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Speaker 2: wouldn't break my heart. Wow, the Saints are on the phone. Here,

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Speaker 2: we gotta pick one nineteen. Here, the Saints are on

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Speaker 2: the phone. They want to give us one fifty one

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Speaker 2: sixty eight and one ninety one nineteen. I don't through

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Speaker 1: A safety would be interesting, especially if you play We

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Speaker 1: The safety's got pretty well picked overly. You had Ottelepo

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Speaker 2: Those are the top guy I would vote for Hall there.

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Speaker 2: Those guys also on like special teamers to me.

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Speaker 1: Elijah Jones is still there too.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie jacksonto this, okay, d tackle safety. Maybe it's tight End.

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Speaker 2: So this is our the pick we got into Deonta deal.

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Speaker 1: Umm, no, we have one ninety five still Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: the receiver is still available. Jalen Coker from holy Cross,

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Speaker 1: Chakwan Jackson from Tulane, Cornelius Johnson from Michigan, Jordan Whittington

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Speaker 2: I remember right, I don't know a ton about him.

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Brownlee is still there.

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Speaker 2: We can't go three.

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Speaker 1: We can't go three corners. But that's Isaac Guardo, the

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Speaker 1: Christian Jones still there, the offensive tackle out of Texas.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm, do we make room for two rookies?

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Speaker 1: You can go big guy, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Throw him in the mix, has a louder milk field

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And we are finally up here at one ninety five.

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Speaker 1: Isaac Garndo guare Endo, I should say the running back

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Speaker 1: Let's see only Vaki is still available.

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Speaker 2: Even if he's only a special teamer, he's worth it.

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Speaker 2: I think the world him a little, but he can play.

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Speaker 1: Let's take him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he'll serve a purpose. Oh, he'll serve a purpose. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he'll be one of the best special teamers. So is

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Speaker 2: that a rap we're rolling down through? But that is

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Speaker 1: So Actually, so what's going to happen here because of

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Speaker 1: when we're on the radio, Yeah, they're gonna pick it

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Speaker 2: I wonder if our friends will let us go home early.

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Speaker 2: Probably not, Probably not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be talking a lot about this guy.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like the Pearl Jam concert.

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Speaker 1: Yeah to me, all right, So here's what we ended

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Speaker 1: up with. Do we make at any trades? We made

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Speaker 1: So what we ended up with was Brian Thomas, the

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Speaker 1: That worked out very well. Mike sand Is Drill at

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Speaker 1: that move. Kyrie Jackson at one nineteen was just a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just okay, we'll take another corner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at one seven eight. We took Gabe Hall, the

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Speaker 1: si Ony Vaki, the safety out of Utah at one

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Speaker 1: ninety five. I approve.

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Speaker 2: I think it's good. It doesn't blow my doors off.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good draft. Fraser fell in our lap.

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Speaker 2: Take an extra six three corner is a nice situation.

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Speaker 2: Just bring a lot of them to camp and see

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Speaker 1: Fisher's gonna be in the mix it right, tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he will be. I mean, this is small potatoes

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Speaker 2: that would work itself out. But if Jones starts it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got no problem with that, right, right, right.

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Speaker 1: But you've you know, you've you've added two quality bodies

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Speaker 2: Mm hm.

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Speaker 1: You added a big receiver.

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Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's a game changer.

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Speaker 1: Dan in a big defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: Sure, you know, I didn't think JJ McCarthy should be

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't think Santa Strol should be there at eighty.

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Speaker 2: Six, but he was that would I think that's impossible.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think Fisher should be available at one on nine.

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Speaker 1: I think he's more of you think he's a day three.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a late day two guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he goes. That could happen. It could happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean teams already going.

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Speaker 1: To be a lot of right tackles taken. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's why we took him because he slipped a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to a break again. That's uh, that

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Speaker 1: get to that when we come back. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more, give

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Speaker 1: you that news right after this. Welcome back. I am

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Speaker 1: Dale Lalli. He is the Matt Williamson and well the

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Speaker 1: breaking news here. Well, Mason Rudolph now a Tennessee Titan

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Speaker 1: one year, three point six two million dollars. So if

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Speaker 1: you believe the reports out there of what Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: Rudolph three times as much money yeah this year as

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are paying Russell Wilson, which.

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Speaker 2: Is a bit of a misdowner, of course. I mean

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Speaker 2: that's the beauty the Wilson thing is it's a rare

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great opportunity for him. Levis is

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Speaker 2: Rudolph might be better than him by week five or six.

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Speaker 2: Titans have done a lot on offense and shooting, just

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Speaker 2: a bad environment at all for Rudolph. And he's making

439
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Speaker 2: a about what we thought. Yeah, you know, yeah, he

440
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 2: didn't break the bank.

441
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 1: And he gets to go down there and hang out

442
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 1: with Ramon.

443
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: Ah there you go, their buddies, So that works.

444
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: You hang out with Ramone Foster Ridley signing a four year,

445
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 1: ninety two million dollar contract with the Titans, fifty million

446
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,880
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed.

447
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 2: It's so pricey for him. I think that's not a

448
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 2: neighborhood own it.

449
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 1: He's like a twenty eight, twenty nine year old wide receiver.

450
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 2: It's coming off an okay, not great year.

451
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's been suspended before and there's walked away

452
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Speaker 1: from the game at one pride right right.

453
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 2: Maybe hopefully all that stuff passed him. But I kind

454
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 2: of understand what the Titans are doing. I mean, Ad

455
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: Pollard ad him. I wonder if Hopkins is still in

456
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: the equation. If so, you have a good group of

457
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 2: skill guys and an improving O line. It's not perfect,

458
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: but you might even draft Joe Alt or somebody too,

459
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 2: you know who knows. So their offense is starting to

460
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 2: shape up.

461
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 1: Defense is still a problem though.

462
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't done much on it, which kind of

463
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 2: like the Panthers. I think that's the smart move. Yeah,

464
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 2: quarterback build the nest, you know.

465
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot. Here's the thing. So Schefter tweets

466
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 1: that out. This is I'm pulling back the curtain here

467
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. So Schefter tweets it out. Calvin Ridley

468
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 1: signing with Tennessee Titans four years, ninety two million, fifty million,

469
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed deal negotiated by David Mugata, Mulgeta and Resa

470
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Speaker 1: Hasse hesse.

471
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 2: Okay, where do they got this information?

472
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: Why did you put that in it? Because that's who

473
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 1: gave him the information. He's trying to he's trying to

474
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: grease the skids there with those guys because they're they're

475
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 1: putting that out there. Look what we did.

476
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 2: This is more your neck of the woods than mine,

477
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 2: But it seems like more and more. It's not unan

478
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 2: or anonymous sources. It's basically, look how great these agents are.

479
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: Go sign with those.

480
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 1: It's like a free advertisement for the advertisement.

481
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, huge one from Adam Schefter and millions of followers.

482
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Speaker 2: Titan stuff. Aside, the move that just happened, I don't

483
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: love for the Steelers. Is Watts going to the Patriots?

484
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 2: That just happened. That one. I would have liked to

485
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Speaker 2: see him back. He played really well, ar mom.

486
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: Wats heading to the Patriots? Was that a one year deal?

487
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 2: I didn't see the details of it.

488
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,959
Speaker 1: I'm not positive on that, but it's not something that

489
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: kills you.

490
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: No, not at all, not at all. I mean you

491
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Speaker 2: can live without him. The sun will come up tomorrow.

492
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 2: I thought he played well here and could have been

493
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Speaker 2: a value.

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would have liked to have had

495
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Speaker 1: him back. But again, you know, they could have had

496
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Speaker 1: him back. You know, he chose to I.

497
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: Don't know what that Steelers offered him or what. Who knows.

498
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the part of of like the Steelers lose

499
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: out on the Center Mitch Morse and people say he

500
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Speaker 1: was two years and ten point five million or whatever

501
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, well, why did the Steelers pay him

502
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: offer him that? Maybe they did?

503
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 2: Maybe they did.

504
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and maybe he chose to go to Jacksonville

505
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: because guess what, Florida doesn't have any taxes. Yeah, there's

506
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: no state income tax in Florida.

507
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: Humans have free will too, they get sign free agent.

508
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: They're so free you know, if they're if they're going

509
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: to offer him two years at ten point five million,

510
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: were you're gonna go to eleven? Were you gonna go

511
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: to twelve? Because that's probably it might have been what

512
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 1: it took to get in there. So maybe their magic

513
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: numbers nine for him or yeah, I don't know this

514
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: as a fact, but I do think there was a

515
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: couple I think teams wanted to get their doctor's hands

516
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: on Morse as well. Yeah, and maybe they didn't think

517
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: that was smart move medically, you know.

518
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: And you're not gonna get everybody. And there is some

519
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: attraction of going to Jacksonville without a state income tax.

520
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: Yea, for the same buck, you make more, Yeah, going

521
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: to Texas, going to.

522
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: Who are California? I think Vegas?

523
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: No Vegas, Oh my god, No, it's the exact opposite.

524
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: You get hammered in the cost of livings through the roof. Yeah,

525
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: but Vegas has it. Florida is a huge advanced Tennessee

526
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: I believe as well, is it Okay, So no, that's

527
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: an unfair advantage. Yeah, so if you actually in such

528
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 1: a life, it's it's an unfair advantage really for the

529
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: entire AFC South. I guess so because the only team

530
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 1: the only thing because, as Max Starks explained to us

531
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: at the Combine disadvantage for Indy, you play a game

532
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: in whatever the state is, you got to pay a

533
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: tax on whatever you earn in that state that day

534
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: that day. Yeah, so it comes out of your paycheck.

535
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: Yes, if you play in Florida that day, you don't

536
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: pay one at all.

537
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: And if you're if you remember the Jaguars, you play

538
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: in Florida for half your games yet. Yeah, then you

539
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: play a game and you're guaranteed to play a game

540
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. Well there's no inco state income tax ere

541
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: and you're playing Houston, which is another state with no

542
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: income tax.

543
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: I didn't even think of that breakdown. Max did a

544
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 2: really good job breaking that down.

545
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna play over half your games and no in

546
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: the states with no no income tax.

547
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: Where they take out five hundred grand or your check

548
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: or whatever on Monday. You know, big, big numbers for anybody.

549
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 2: I was thinking more of a Indy's the only one

550
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 2: that doesn't have that advantage to sign free agents with

551
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: that situation.

552
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: But they can use it as a sell. Well three

553
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: of you know that three of your games you're not

554
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: going to pay income tax on, plus the other we

555
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: still play Tampa and some of these other games like

556
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: everybody else, you know, throughout the seasons. And that was

557
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: something I can remember. I can't remember what it was,

558
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: definitely in California, and I think it was a city

559
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: that levied. They called it an athlete tax. We got

560
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: all these athletes coming in and making hundreds of thousands

561
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: of dollars on you know, playing games in our stadiums,

562
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna we're going to tax them. You know,

563
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: this athlete tax. Wow, might have been San Francisco one

564
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: of the like. So the locality also levy a tax

565
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: and the like, So that stuff matters.

566
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen or Taylor Swift was in, it doesn't matter,

567
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: But the athletes did. Yeah, Okay, I mean nobody thinks

568
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: about this, and nobody's crying for the millionaires is not

569
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: going wrong. I get that. But it's a lot of money.

570
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: It makes a lot a lot of money.

571
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean even for lower end guys. But people

572
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: on like a second salary that are making nice money,

573
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 2: starting player that's not a superstar. We're talking about hundreds

574
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars here people, maybe millions over the

575
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: course of a season or the extent of a contract. Definitely.

576
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just just think of you know, if

577
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: if your job required well you're working, let's say you

578
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: are traveling whatever.

579
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, every time you sell a vacuum cleaner in Ohio.

580
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 1: If we if we get paid like that when we

581
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: go to Indianapolis for the combine. Right in the city

582
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: of Indianapolis said that week, Well, you're working in Indianapolis

583
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: that week, so we got to take a tax out

584
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: of your paycheck.

585
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, instead of ten percent forty percent, Like, well, this

586
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: road trip might not be worth it, right, or the

587
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: owner's meetings coming up or whatever, right, yeah, or people

588
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: travel for a living. If you sell software in Tennessee,

589
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: you don't get thinged, but you do in Arkansas.

590
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of crazy, but nobody Again, nobody

591
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 1: cries about it because it's athletes and well they make

592
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: millions of dollars.

593
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 2: Well not all of them, not all of them, and

594
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: their shelf life isn't that long either, right, you know,

595
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: I mean, but that's an interesting way.

596
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: Everybody's got their hand out though.

597
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: Plus you're not gonna not implying you should, but you're

598
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: not going to get around that with the irs. No, Like, no,

599
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: I see you on NBC. You're I'm pretty sure you're

600
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 2: playing in Tennessee. I'm pretty sure you're playing in Vegas

601
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: or California. I'm pretty certain you're there.

602
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: You know, So that contract at twenty this according to

603
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: Jason from Over the Cap, does good work, he does.

604
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: The twenty three million dollar contract. Twenty three million year

605
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: contract that Ridley signed makes him the tenth highest paid

606
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the NFL.

607
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he's not that guy. I don't

608
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: think he's that guy either. Twenty three. I thought twenty

609
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: was crazy for him. I wonder, I mean, what's Williams

610
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: Brown Beckham. I'm just leaving the little guys. Do they

611
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 2: look at that and say I should be in that

612
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: neighborhood too? I don't think so. I think what we've

613
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: seen is there's a Tier one of receivers and then

614
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: there's a gap. I just don't think Ridley's a Tier

615
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: one guy. But Tennessee, does you know?

616
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: Or? I mean they have Hopkins there. Maybe they're thinking, hey,

617
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: we got two twos, but you're not paying them as

618
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: two two's.

619
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: I wonder if Hopkins is back, he's still valuable. I mean,

620
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: he's making a big buck. That's a lot of money

621
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: for two receivers for a team that I'm sure Burks

622
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 2: will be back. Yeah, and he's still work in progress.

623
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: To be kind, I mean, are you going to throw

624
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: the ball enough really to.

625
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: Just Levis is nice. I mean Levis those have any excuses,

626
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: you should be able to develop him as best of

627
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: his abilities.

628
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, if that's if you know, if that's the case. Yeah,

629
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: just looking here at the safety market, Matt, and we

630
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of movement there.

631
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: No, these are some calls i'd be making.

632
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: The guys that have signed, Xavier McKinney, Darnell Savage, Brandon Jones,

633
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Byrd, Gino Stone Gilman got two years ten point

634
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: one that was reasonably cheap for him.

635
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was a good price.

636
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Whitehead got two years nine million today to go

637
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: back to Tampa Bay.

638
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: I didn't hear that one, okay.

639
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 1: Jonathan Owens goes from the Packers to the Bears two

640
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: years four point seven five. Jeremy Chin got one year

641
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: four point one million with WHO again he went to Washington,

642
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: and then Dion Bush got one year one point three

643
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: seven to stay in Kansas City.

644
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: But there's still names out there.

645
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking at some of the guys that are are

646
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: still available at Chauncey Gardner Johnson signed, Ronnie Harrison signed WHO.

647
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: John Gardner Johnson go.

648
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: With Philly on a three year that was that was

649
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: earlier today. Yes, Poyer signed with Miami, jaylen Mill signed

650
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: with the Giants. So a few more guys are Rayshawn

651
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: Jenkins signed with Seattle.

652
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: A lot of those break my heart.

653
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin Simmons still sitting out there, curious what he

654
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: would want. He must want. So the market value here

655
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: and I'm looking on spot rack is eleven point one million.

656
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm betting he wants more than that right now.

657
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure he comes out of the gate saying I

658
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: didn't expect to be free. You guys, every one expects it.

659
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, could you get him what it's all said

660
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: and done at two for twenty.

661
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: I'd be interested.

662
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: I'd be very interesting. I mean, you talk about really

663
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: getting strong up the middle of your defense, the spying

664
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: of your defense would become one of the best in

665
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: the league. Yeah.

666
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 1: Just looking at some of these other guys here, Quandary

667
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: Diggs is still out there.

668
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: How old is he?

669
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: Thirty one, so a little older than one you're I'd

670
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: be interesting. Yeah, Marcus May still out there, jay Ron

671
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Kurse still out there. These guys are all they're all

672
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: in that same age group.

673
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, where they're.

674
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: They're probably you know it played football, but once you

675
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: hit thirty, you probably you might want to start looking

676
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: at taking a one year or two year deal.

677
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Agree, I know black Men's out there still. Yeah,

678
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: that one interests me.

679
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: That would be one I'd definitely be interested in. Teroll

680
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: Edmonds still out there.

681
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: The right price. I don't know if it'd be my

682
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: top two, but yeah.

683
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: But he knows the defense.

684
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: It wouldn't hurt you.

685
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: Who else is interesting here? A lot of these guys

686
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: are a little more up there. Ashton Davis is kind

687
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: of interesting.

688
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, take a flyer on him.

689
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that kind of thing.

690
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

691
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: Blackman though, is twenty five?

692
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: Black Men's still really attractive.

693
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: I can't get past that one.

694
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: That's yeah. Even a three year deal or you know

695
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: two years an option take.

696
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, or you know Jordan Fuller at twenty.

697
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: Six out either as his name was on tip my tie,

698
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: I couldn't come up with it's he's a quality player

699
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: as well.

700
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: And Cameron curl is still out there.

701
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: Hm, he's quite good. Yeah, I mean he was franchised

702
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: a year ago.

703
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: His market value though, because of the franchise deal, you're

704
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: looking at fourteen point four.

705
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody can nobody's going.

706
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: To consider that, but that's what he's gonna want because

707
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: of the franchise.

708
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, like i'd give Simmons more than him. Yeah, you know,

709
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: I think I think Simmons is a better player, but

710
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: Curl might have to realize I'm an eight million dollar guy.

711
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm a six million dollar guy.

712
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

713
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: I mean he's not special.

714
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: He's a really good player, but it was odd that

715
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: he got franchised last year.

716
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

717
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: So I mean there's some dudes out there that could

718
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 1: come in and help you.

719
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: And I think there'll be a couple more cut too

720
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: in the coming days here too, good chance, and these

721
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: teams are really tight against the cap.

722
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to make a move and all of

723
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: a sudden you get it. Well, we can't afford that

724
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: die that guy anymore.

725
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: No, there's some names that are Blackman's probably the top

726
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: of the list that are most reasonable. Simmons out at

727
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: least kicked the tires on.

728
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah with that question, fuller.

729
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: Fuller, there's a bad Curl. I'd call now at least

730
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: see what are the numbers on these guys? But that's yeah,

731
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: I bet there's not a lot of I bet there's

732
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: not a ton of real safety needy teams right now either. Yeah,

733
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: that's probably a little bit of a depressed market.

734
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what the I just I wonder if

735
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: they've updated here with the latest cuts on here and

736
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: see if what are they projecting here for.

737
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: They change their projections like Connor Williams projection come down.

738
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: I don't think they changed those things.

739
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they haven't. They haven't added the latest cut there

740
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers. Armstead, Armstead, I don't see

741
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: him on here yet, but I bet he's fifteen. It's

742
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: going to be you know, if he's on here. But

743
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: they haven't come up with the market.

744
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, no, I bet he's gonna be real price.

745
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: But he's Yeah, he's not going to be cheap. No,

746
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's coming off of a contract where

747
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: his average salary was seventeen million, probably under that, I

748
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: would think, because he's thirty one.

749
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is considered a big time team leader, high

750
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: high high character guy. They use him sometimes as an

751
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: outside the tackle edge rusher all the way into nose

752
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: on third and seven. He's long, he would fit yeah,

753
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: character wise, all that stuff, he would fit. Well. He's

754
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: not as thick or strong as Cam Hayward. He doesn't

755
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: run through people as much, but he has some of that.

756
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the long arms.

757
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's been around buck. He's a good player.

758
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, just looking, I mean readers still sitting out there.

759
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if he gets signed in this, your

760
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: dogs are gonna have to check it out. And he's

761
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: coming off.

762
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: So like big ticket items was an.

763
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: Achilles, I think it's an a C.

764
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a Probably any of

765
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: these big ticket items interest you, Armstead reader, Mike Williams,

766
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: Justin Simmons, it's probably about Marquise Brown.

767
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: Mark's probably the last. He's he's done that. I wonder

768
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: if they if they have Mike Williams on here yet

769
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: with it, if.

770
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: They know if they've projected him.

771
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not projected yet. I still think, you know

772
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: renfro At twenty eight.

773
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't consider him a big big ticket item.

774
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it.

775
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: But if I can run Swing, if I could get

776
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: if I can get Hunter, renfro At like six million

777
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: a year.

778
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish we had seen more of them lately,

779
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 2: but what we saw the most recent is a very

780
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: high quality player. This gets open gets open all the time. Yeah,

781
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 2: and has some toughness to him, goes over the middle,

782
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 2: easy completions.

783
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: He's not old, yeah, twenty eight, twenty eight, he looks old. Yeah,

784
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: but he's looked old since he was twenty. Yeah, one

785
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: of those guys.

786
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: No, he'd be a nice addition, like I definitely like

787
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: him over BOYD.

788
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too.

789
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: I think he's quicker, a better separator.

790
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think you can afford one more

791
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: of those big ticket items.

792
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking. I think you could too. Mike

793
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: Williams are probably my favorite on that list.

794
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: Now, you could afford Armstead if you were willing to

795
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: walk away from Ogan Jobi.

796
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: Easily could afford him. Yeah, and I think that would

797
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 2: have to be the move. And then maybe draft another

798
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: in the fourth round, maybe still or whatever. That's why

799
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: I wanted Watts. You still call Adams up though, you can? Yeah,

800
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: I think got him played pretty well. Yeah.

801
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, We're gonna get to another break though he is.

802
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly, you're listening to the

803
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to

804
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: finish up the show right after this. Welcome back. I'm Dale. Lolly,

805
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: he is the Matt Williamson and Matt looking here, so

806
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: I didn't realize this. So Mason Rudolph's now going to

807
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee where he will compete with Malik Willis.

808
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: To be the backup. Yeah, and I think he wins.

809
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: I think he wins that. Yeah, yeah, easily, easily.

810
00:35:59,200 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

811
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: So looking here at some of the updated salary cap

812
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: numbers from around the league right now.

813
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: There's a couple of teams at the top that are

814
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 2: kind of running out of what do you do with

815
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 2: your money?

816
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: Spending like crazy? Like the Titans have been spending like crazy,

817
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: like drunken sailors.

818
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Washington's been like that, has been like that, and

819
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, it's like, what do you

820
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: do with it?

821
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? In New England? New England has fifty seven point

822
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: eight million dollars and nobody wants to go there.

823
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's and Washington used to be in that boat.

824
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: Maybe there's still some of that, but both are not

825
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: the most attractive destinations right now from terms of winning. Soon,

826
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: at least there's new coaching and new regimes and a

827
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: new era around both buildings.

828
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: And New England was a no fund zone for a

829
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: long time.

830
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they have the second and third pick in

831
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: the draft. I mean, it's not like they're you're gonna

832
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: be playing with the rookie quarterback.

833
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

834
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: Again, I don't know what what do you go spend

835
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: that on if you're those two teams right now?

836
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I guess you try to

837
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: resign your own guys.

838
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can extend some guys, I think, but you're

839
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: bad for a reason, right. Yeah, it's getting Harry.

840
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Raiders freeing up cash here, they had thirty

841
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: five point two I don't know if that includes because

842
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: I think they freed up another nineteen million today with

843
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: the releases that they made. I bet that's updated, because

844
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they signed Wilkins and they did they had

845
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: some big signs. Well, some of that stuff when you

846
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: get to this point, some of the stuff hasn't been

847
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: reported yet.

848
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: True stalary info is hard to find, hard to find

849
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: the second up to the second.

850
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: But right now, according to this, the Steelers are eighteen

851
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: point two million.

852
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so.

853
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: That doesn't include any of the signings. I don't believe

854
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: that that. They don't think that includes Queen I don't

855
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: I don't think that does include Queen.

856
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought it did. But Queen's number isn't crazy,

857
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: isn't crazy. No, you picked up a little in the

858
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: Deontay trade. You can pick up a little more with

859
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 2: the Jackson restructure. You could restructure cam.

860
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: No, they have more money available that they could.

861
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: They can make money.

862
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: They can make it. Yeah, they can create it.

863
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: You could cut Oagunjobi. I don't think that's gonna happen

864
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: unless you have a detackle lined up that yeah, you know,

865
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: go over him.

866
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: But some of these things, like the Browns are still listened,

867
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: like one point. So some of these teams that are

868
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: making moves, like Jacksonville right now.

869
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: Is Jacksonville, Miami and Cleveland. They're all making a lot

870
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: of moves.

871
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: They're three point eight million dollars in cap space going

872
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: into this whole thing. Yeah, they're making all these moves.

873
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: They were making pitches for to keep you know Calvin.

874
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Ridley, Ridley, they were gonna have to make

875
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: more moves where it all comes from. I mean they're

876
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: gonna cut say Jones or I mean even we did

877
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: mentioned this. The brown signed Jameis Winston. I mean he's

878
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: a couple of million two five. I think it's for

879
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: the five traded for Judy, you know, like where's their

880
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: money coming from? Yeah, you know, so there's a couple

881
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: of these teams.

882
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: They're going to create it somewhere, and you know, is

883
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: it do they rework Miles Garrett's contract and make that

884
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: Moreen Watson?

885
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: But that's been rumored too, But man, I don't want

886
00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 2: to be married to him forever.

887
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, the Cowboys are sitting here at three

888
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: they have done they nothing zero, right, Like I saw

889
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: somebody tweeted that earlier whether the Steelers have only at

890
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: that point on Monday, they they'd spent just the one

891
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: point two million on Wilson. The Steelers aren't doing anything.

892
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: They're last in the league and spending I'm like, dude,

893
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: they're like six teams that have done nothing.

894
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: They've done nothing, nothing. And the Wilson signing is a

895
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: little bit of a misnomer for that exercise. You know,

896
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: it's not like he's not making money this year. Yeah,

897
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: I mean he's making thirty six or something. You know,

898
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: so you just got him at a massive, massive discount.

899
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: He wanted to come here, that was the part. That's

900
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 2: what it comes down to Dallas is interesting though. They've

901
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 2: lost a couple of dudes and haven't done anything. They're

902
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: not as active in free agency as people think. They

903
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: resign their own usually did somewhat inflated deals.

904
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they draft, well, they have a time.

905
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hard n O time so much. Yeah,

906
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: hard times, hard recipe to keep up, you know.

907
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: But you look at like a team like the Saints

908
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: now has created some space. They're thirteen million over the

909
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, under the count for them, that's you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

910
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: they just hit the lotto and quarters are flying out

911
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: of the machine. But they didn't have enough money to

912
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 1: resign jamis.

913
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: No and Thomas is leaving Maisley and they restructured to

914
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: Mario Davis. They restructured ramchecked this morning and some of

915
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: those guys are really declining assets though you know, there

916
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: are older dudes that they're reinvesting in, which is a

917
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 2: little worrisome for them. They're third in that division to me, now,

918
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: I mean Atlanta with Cousins bringing back Mayfield, Evans, Dante David,

919
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: they won division. I think Atlanta and the Bucks are

920
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: clearly the best teams in the South.

921
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Commanders Land, Bobby Wagner. Yeah, he's a seahawk connection

922
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: with Quinn and that's fine. I mean he's a declining player.

923
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: Steelers aren't after linebackers, and I think Washington is looking

924
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: for leaders. Yeah, I mean they got reshaped the culture

925
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: and they've bring in a lot of players.

926
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: This year on year eight point five million really with

927
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: six billion fully guaranteed.

928
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: He didn't play terrible last year, but he's not the player.

929
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money.

930
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money. Interesting, Okay, it'd be good

931
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 2: for jam and Davis. I guess, although he's contracts probably

932
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: coming up soon too. I mean no longer a kid.

933
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: Wonder if what they're doing with Curl, I don't know.

934
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a great one. That again, that

935
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: safety market to me is super interesting. Yeah, because you.

936
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 2: Dip your toe in that market. Yeah, do pretty well.

937
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: It's the question now becomes because there's been so little

938
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: movement in it, when do you make that move?

939
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wait for the next one to drop or

940
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: do you want to be the next one to make

941
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: a move. I think receivers similar and maybe Ridley was

942
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 2: the domino.

943
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: That that helps everything else move along.

944
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: And Marky's brown is up with the Chiefs and then

945
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: all of a sudden it's gets.

946
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: A little light or you know, is everybody waiting for

947
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: Justin Simmons?

948
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: Deal?

949
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: Is everybody waiting for a camera and Curl? Deal?

950
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 2: What's the Yeah, whole sticking point there, and that's probably

951
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: how it works. Yeah, we'll give Curl eighty percent of

952
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: what Simmons get or whatever it is. You know, Blackman's

953
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: going to get seventy percent of that.

954
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know i'd sign Blackman today.

955
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean if he's in a five neighborhood,

956
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: I think that's a really good pick. Yeah, that really

957
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: solidifies a lot of things for you. He has some

958
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 2: slot capability, young, versatile, Yeah, the spine your d got

959
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: really good then.

960
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can still win in the league today

961
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: with defense.

962
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: Oh, you definitely can't. Definitely can't despite what some people think. Yeah,

963
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean scoring has been down the year after year. Yeah,

964
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 2: games are closer, and if.

965
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: You're going to try to if you play to try

966
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: to win close games, then you better have a good defense, yeah,

967
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: because otherwise the close games you're gonna try to win

968
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: are thirty five to thirty and those are tougher to win.

969
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think they'll be better at outside

970
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: corner than they were. Porters an improving player, but he

971
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: wasn't the problem last year. I think the door number

972
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: two is gonna be better there, and I really think

973
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: down the spine should be better now with Queen hopefully

974
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: Minka for an entire season and a player to be

975
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 2: named later maybe yeah black Men or somebody like that.

976
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: That's the thing, you know, that when you think about

977
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: the games that the Steelers lost to some top players,

978
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: Like if I told you before the season start, they're

979
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: going to play this many games without making Fitzpatrick and

980
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: this many games without Cam Hayward.

981
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.

982
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson is going to miss this and yeah, like

983
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, they really struggled.

984
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: Probably six win teams something like that. Yeah, unless the

985
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks were unbelievably good, right, you know, right, O line

986
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: stayed healthy. That was a nice chunk of it. But

987
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: and I thought improved. It's easy to do this, but

988
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: I kind of expect the O line to be better

989
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: next year as well. But there's some wishing who the

990
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: center was. Yeah, yeah, I wonder if that's going to

991
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: be draft or busts with the center.

992
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: It might have to be at this point pretty dry. Yeah, Yeah,

993
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know.

994
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: Of all the free agents, the Rams center is the

995
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: one I knew the least about. And he's still out there.

996
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's an upgrade over Cole, but

997
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: he thought of pretty well, you know. And Connor Williams

998
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: is a little hairy right now. But those are the names.

999
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of those guys coming off the injuries. You

1000
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: just don't know him, yeah, Reader, guys like that, Yes,

1001
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: you just don't know.

1002
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: They might have to wait a month to sign him,

1003
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: or you know they don't have enough. Maybe you go.

1004
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: Into the draft and nobody signs Connor Williams and you

1005
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: go into the draft and say, okay, we didn't get one.

1006
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: Now we go sign Connor Wall.

1007
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: What happens those guys or they still aren't willing to

1008
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: take what true market value is for them, Like I

1009
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: know I'm a better player than this. I should get

1010
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: paid in the Morse neighborhood, and like I can't do

1011
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: that if I don't know your your status at the moment. Yeah,

1012
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: I mean you can see where those impasses come pretty easily.

1013
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: Reader is another good example. It could be in the

1014
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: same market that way.

1015
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to give him, you know, twelve million,

1016
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: thirteen million a year, and you know he can't walk

1017
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: right now.

1018
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: Right, Howard the corner for Miami's probably in that situation.

1019
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 2: I don't think Mike Williams is because he got injured

1020
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 2: so long ago.

1021
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: That's what makes it. Like the cut contracts, so all right,

1022
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: you'd be weird, be pretty? Do you really rolling the dice?

1023
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And I don't know this, I probably never

1024
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: knows my lifetime. But how much medical information does everybody

1025
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: share with other teams? And of course you get him

1026
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: in your building and you give him the physical of

1027
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: his life, and you can.

1028
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: I doubt that the Falcons and Vikings for sharing information. Cousins,

1029
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: they were both trying.

1030
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: To sign him, right, there's no reason to be courteous,

1031
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: I mean, And does the agent have all the up

1032
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: to date information. They can get their own medicals.

1033
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: They get their own medicals so they can send that out.

1034
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: But I still want my doctors to look at you.

1035
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there will be one or two of these

1036
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: Zogan joby to the bear move where you think it's

1037
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: a done deal and then he gets in the building,

1038
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: like sorry that we're tearing that contract up. Yeah, and

1039
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: then a month later you sign somewhere else.

1040
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: That's just some of the stuff that's happening, Like people

1041
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: might wear stuff like that. You know, why hasn't this

1042
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: a teammate announced this yet? It's already been reported that

1043
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: this deal's done. Well, the guys deals aren't done. He

1044
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: has to get in the building, take the physical and

1045
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: get and put his name on it, and the doctors

1046
00:45:59,640 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: have to.

1047
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the team will announce it, notch after

1048
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: not us.

1049
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: Now those are all agreements.

1050
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're agreements.

1051
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: Handshake it not even a handshake.

1052
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 2: Every year there's two or three that doesn't go through. Yeah,

1053
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: I mean or a player backs out or you know,

1054
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 2: I don't want to go there.

1055
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, something happens that kind of voids the deal. That's

1056
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: that's all part of There's probably one or two of

1057
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: those in the next twenty four hours. Yeah, that's going

1058
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: to do it New League.

1059
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: This is fun, yeah, absolutely.

1060
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: But that's going to do it. For our show today.

1061
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: We will be back on Friday, and I just want

1062
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: to let everybody know as well. Two weeks from now,

1063
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: will be at the the owner's meetings, day in Orlando.

1064
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: We'll do a Sunday show.

1065
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 2: Oh okay, what was that. We're going Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.

1066
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: Wednesday Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday in Orlando from ten to twelve,

1067
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: ten to twelve, and those those shows also will be

1068
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 1: available on YouTube as they were last year as well.

1069
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so course, you guess, and do a little different

1070
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: feel from down there.

1071
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So that's what that's what we're looking at here,

1072
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: coming up here in a couple of weeks, not next week,

1073
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: with the week.

1074
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: After, okay, next week we're three days again. Yeah, and

1075
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: there'll be a lot to talk about still and then

1076
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: we go down and then we go down. Nice, can't wait.

1077
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: But that's going to do it for our show today.

1078
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1079
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air, I am Dale Lotley.

1080
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to

1081
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: This edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.