1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by Draft Kings. We have 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: the pleasure of sitting down with Ben Powers today and 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: then I gotta start here. Okay, this is one of 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: these questions I've been wanting to asked for a little while. 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Uh do you ever introduce yourself as Powers? Powers? Dang? 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Really you never tempted? You know. Funny story. My uncle's 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: name's Austin and he was born before the movie came out. 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm that pretty good. That's awesome. So he does it, 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: He's got to do it all the times. Yes, Okay, 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, for some of the younger listeners, 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna to explain that one movie Powers movies. I like, 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: come on, I mean, did you grow up? You had to? Yes, 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: But for some of the younger listeners probably aren't too familiar. 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: That's a movie reference. Okay, it's not a streaming service. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: It's a movie, all right? Um alright? So, uh, how 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: good did that feel? Less Sunday Pittsburgh, two or fifteen 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: rushing yards? That one had to feel really good? It 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: felt great? If up great. We were clicking on all 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: cylinders and I'm watching film. It look as good as 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: it looked on Sunday. Is that kind of a dream 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: for an offensive lineman when you know you're in Pittsburgh 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: and they're calling a lot of running, running plays. Absolutely. Um. 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: When the running game gets going, the game gets really fun, right. Um. 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: You just feel the rhythm of the game and how 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: the defense is playing in and you just understand, you know, 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: it's a it's a combined understanding from the O c 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: up in the booth to the players on the field 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: that this is what we're gonna do right all right, 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: So it's a third and three, two minutes, twelve seconds left. 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: Basically you get first down, games over and uh, Greg 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: Roman calls a play here, come in, you're the polling guard. 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Lean the way. I'm excited, okay instantly? Are you like 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: let's go running behind me? Like, let's get it, It's 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: time to go put these boys away. I love it? You, Like, 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: do you have this kind of attitude that that maybe 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: you have to have this attitude as an offensive lineman, 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: like run behind me, like I know, like Orlando Brown 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: used to come over to the sidelines and say, like 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: feed me behind me. Was a big chest down. Yeah, 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: like you do you? Is that a thing that I 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: believe every offensive lineman should think that way. I think 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: you should have the pride um to think I want 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: the bar Ran behind me, and I love pulling because 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: that gets me to the point of attack and it 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: allows me to be in the play even when I'm 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: running into the right as a left guard. So that's 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: something I really enjoy. Can you take us inside that 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: huddle before the six yard gusts run? What was being 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: said in there? It was we could put the we 50 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: could finish this game right now. You know, the goal 51 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: of every game is finish with your offense on the field, 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: and to be able to do that, UM, like we 53 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: did is awesome, right, I mean our guys like like 54 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: al right, like let's go, Like you know, everybody in 55 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: the stadium knew a run was coming, everybody in the stadium. 56 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: And to be able to run when everybody knows it 57 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: is another thing. Right, time to nut up and it's 58 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: time to you know, it's it's time to get it. 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: It's awesome, it's um you know, it's it was. It 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: was a obviously a great performance by the running game 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: UM to put up two nfteen yards against Pittsburgh, and 62 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: going into the week, there were some questions that John 63 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: Harbaugh and Greg Roman got like the running game is 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: the cold running game? Take the quarterback scrambles out was 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: kind of struggling a little bit. In the realest recing 66 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: struggling would be a strong struggling. It wasn't up to 67 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: what you guys are used to, you know. And so 68 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: then the question is, like, what's up with the run game? Well, 69 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: you guys answered that in a pretty dominant way. Um. 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: Is it encouraging to be able to, like when you 71 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: get those questions answer them in a in a very 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: clear way. Yes, no doubt. You're having a game like 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: we did last week certainly helps. But every every week 74 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: is a different challenge. You know, maybe this week they're 75 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: having a player in the box or you're finding a 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: safety to get in the box that we have to 77 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: count for some way. So every every week, every every game, 78 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: it holds us different struggles in the run game and 79 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: pass game that you know, and some games that hits 80 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: and some day games have done't. So one thing that 81 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Mike Thomas said after the game is they felt like 82 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: the defense kind of wore down. Um. And we've talked 83 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: on here before about how over a course of a 84 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: game with the way you guys run the ball effectively 85 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: that you can wear defensive lines, linebackers down, and you 86 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: feel that. I feel that the fourth quarter our running 87 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: game is at its best and that has everything to 88 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: do with them taking three quarters of it, you know 89 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: what I mean? And at that point it's it's time 90 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: to finish it and put those put them away. Really, 91 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: what is the feeling of breaking another man's will? Like 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I do it to Garrett all the time, but I'd 93 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: just like to hear it from you, right. The reason 94 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: you asked the reason you asked the question is because 95 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: you've never experienced to break your will in a different 96 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: way being annoying, not stop talking and things like that. 97 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: I break your will like that? Yeah, physically to break 98 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: a man's will, what's that like? It's a confidence builder. 99 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're trying to do something that they 100 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: don't want to do and then you succeed and it 101 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: feels great, right right, That's awesome. So I understand Pittsburgh 102 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: has a little more significance to you because you grew 103 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: up a Steelers fan. Well, you know, we won't let 104 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: the cat out of the bag here hold it against you. 105 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Can you just tell us the story behind that. My 106 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: whole life, myself and all my family members were big 107 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers fans. You know, we have connections. We have 108 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: family that grew up in Pittsburgh, so we had a 109 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: natural reason to route for them until I got drafted. Right, 110 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: and then you grew up in Wichita, by the list, 111 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't like you grew up in Pennsylvania, right, right, right, 112 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: And so as soon as I got drafted, that all 113 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: changed really quick, did you uh? I'll say, so I 114 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: grew up a Browns fan, so I grew up hating 115 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens. You know, so like I still have family members, 116 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: like when I I got family members of Cleveland who 117 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: were playing this weekend, so like they're not gonna be 118 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: wearing Ravens gear. They're wearing Brown's gear. What about your family? 119 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 1: Are you Power supporters? Okay, so whatever colors I'm wearing, 120 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: they got my back. Okay. But you said, is that 121 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: your uncle has season tickets? This great uncle, your great 122 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: uncle has seasons tickets. He did not have any purple. 123 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: He went wearing Ben Powers jersey and also have a 124 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: terrible talent and he's done do a comment. I don't 125 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: know if you could do that there, you just get 126 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: a lot of raised eyebrows if you do that, that's amazing. So, um, 127 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: you know what for you, You've got a kind of 128 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: a I don't know, it's an interesting career when I 129 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: look at it, because you came into this training camp 130 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: fighting for the job, you know, and I've been so 131 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: impressed with the way that you've played this year because 132 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 1: you want basically at every turn you made it clear 133 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: that you were the guy. You went into camp at 134 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: Tarry Phillips and Ben Cleveland are competing for that left 135 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: guard spot and you were the one that won out. 136 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: Kind of take me through the process starting in the 137 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: O t A s about the competition for that starting job. Yeah, 138 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: so I had the vision. You know, you have to 139 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: have the end goal, and with that in mind, you 140 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: have to understand and I'm working forward something and that 141 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: was for me to win that job and become the 142 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: starter and make it clear, right, that was the important 143 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: part to make it clear. And so every day you 144 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: have to come with the approach that I gotta get better, 145 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: I gotta grow, take it day by day, week by week, 146 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: and just grow and develop into the player you want 147 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: to be. And was that kind of to make it 148 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: clear because last year it was kind of split. You know, 149 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: Tyree wanted out of training camp, then he got hurt 150 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: in Vegas. You took over and started I think the 151 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: next twelve games, and then Ben finished out in Cleveland, 152 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: finished out the remainder of the season. So was it 153 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: a case where you're like, you know what, I respect 154 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: these other guys. I don't want to rotation anymore, Like 155 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: I want to be that dude. You know that that 156 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: there's six all seventeen games. I think that's what every 157 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: player wants. Yeah, yeah, how much? How much do you 158 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: feel like you grew as a player, Like how did 159 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: you improve as a player and individually to win that job? Um? 160 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: It started, It started, Uh started early last off season. 161 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: I made it clear that I'm going to start my 162 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: off season training regiment early. I trained back home in 163 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: which talk with Carrie Rosenboom. We started about mid February. 164 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: I took like two two and a half weeks off 165 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: and we got to it pretty early, and so I 166 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: think that helped a lot. Well, do you pay attention 167 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: to like the conversation, you know, like early on, I 168 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: think that a lot of people were like looking at 169 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of wide open competition, you know, 170 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: and then it's like, all right, could it be? Who 171 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: could it be? You know, um, do you pay attention 172 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: to like going into a training camp like what the 173 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: projections are not at all? In my opinion, I think 174 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: that's all rat poison. If I'm using the words Nick 175 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Saban rat poison like that, that's a Nick Saban, that's 176 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: a saban is um right. But basically media coverage you 177 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: are rat poisons. You're peddling rap pois. We're gonna use 178 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: that a lot. Now, I'm curious. You know, you talked 179 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: about how you like pooling, right, and one thing when 180 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: I was looking at the film from the Steelers game 181 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: was like, it's just a wide assortment of different kinds 182 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: of runs. I mean a ton of combo blocks, like 183 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: just hammering them with combo blocks, getting up on the linebackers. 184 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: Like what kind of plot blocks do you relish and 185 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: what schemes do you relish? The mist I mean gap 186 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: schemes because it has a lot to do with me pulling. Yeah, 187 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: I think midline r QB driven system I love because 188 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: it puts the defense on their heels and really makes 189 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: them um gap sound in it and make some you know, 190 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: really strict to their rules as opposed to their rules 191 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: on defense, and then um, it's a gap scheme, quarterback driven. 192 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: You know, those are bread and butter, and so that's 193 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: what I run a lot, and so that's what I like. 194 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: You obviously have a lot of good offensive lineman playing 195 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: around you too. Can you talk about Tyler linderbaumb and 196 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: how he's adjusted as a rookie? Tyler linden Bomb is 197 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: great man. He's going to be a great pro and 198 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: he has a great future ahead of him. What what 199 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: is it about what makes you say that? His his 200 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: approach and how he comes into work every day. He 201 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: wants to get better, He's he's driven. And on the 202 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: other side, Zeitler your your right guard. You know that, dude. 203 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: I feel like he's been one of the best guards 204 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: in the league for a long time, but he hasn't 205 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: gotten a Pro Bowl yet, you know, and he's kind 206 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: of always I don't know, that's the one thing that's missing, 207 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: even though he's one of the best guards in the league. 208 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: What is it about him that you think makes him 209 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: a special player? I think Kevin is great, He's a 210 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: great pro. Um I've learned a lot from him, and 211 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: he's very consistent, and he's and his focus is incredible. 212 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Um he he locks it in. You know what, you 213 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: have the best beard? I think, well, Morgan's got a 214 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: pretty good beer is great. Morgan's is very solid. Is 215 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: there a beard competition? Not at all? Okay, because Linder 216 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: mom has gotta kind of I mean he's got a guy. Yeah, 217 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: he's kind of rookie baby in future. So just going 218 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: back to you winning the job and playing really well 219 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: this year. Obviously it's like the last year of your 220 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: rookie contract and some players say like, look, I know 221 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: what I'm kind of playing for. On the other side 222 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: of that, was that part of the motivation and thought 223 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: process as you you know, going back to that offseason 224 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: train that you talked about, knowing that like you know, 225 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: there could be a big bait hey at the end 226 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: of the season. Thousand percent, that's the that's the goal, 227 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: and that's that's a mission. For a lot of guys 228 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: on their fourth year, in the fourth year end of 229 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: their deal. That just goes along with it. And as 230 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: being professional athletes, that makes sense. Um. So your career, uh, 231 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: you start coming out of high school let's go back away. 232 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: This dude's battled for spots because competing for the left 233 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: guard spot was though nothing new, nothing right, exactly come 234 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: out of high school. Let me get this straight. Zero 235 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: do you want scholarship offers? Correct? That's crazy? Why? How? 236 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: How does that happen? I think Kansas is under the 237 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: radar and a lot of people's recruiting books when they 238 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: say we're going to go around the country, where do 239 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: we go? You know it's Texas, Florida, California, Louisiana. You 240 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: don't you know, you don't really hear a lot. So 241 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: it's it's hard. Four guys in Kansas. And at the 242 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: time Case State with Bill Sinder was doing, they recommended 243 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: walk on program to in state guys and so I 244 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: didn't even get asked to recommend walk on. Really, so 245 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: zero offers out of high school? I bet on myself. 246 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: I went to junior college. I was there for four 247 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: months before I got an offer from Oklahoma. Not much 248 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: of the four months in Oklahoma comes knocking. So what 249 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: happened in those four months? Like? What did you? How 250 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: did you open so many eyes there? I think it 251 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: just put me on the radar. I think going to 252 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: junior college just put me on a bigger radar than 253 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: playing high school ball in Kansas, right, you sall that 254 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, So you went like undersized. I 255 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't say so interesting. That's really crazy though, I mean, 256 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: like were you were you? Were you just killing people 257 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: at the junior college. I must have. There's still some 258 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: dead bodies, I mean just community college. So so when 259 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: you when you get to Oklahoma, Lincoln Riley, Uh did 260 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: he offer you? How did you? Who stoops? Okay? Bob 261 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: Stoops and Bill bid Bo came to my house and 262 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: which and they offered me okay? And then you get there. 263 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Was Bob still a coach then? Or was he like 264 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: okay last year? Okay? And so then Linky Riley takes over. 265 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: You guys have this prolific offense and uh it's you know, 266 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: probably the best in the country during your time there. 267 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: You play with Baker Mayfield and you play with Kyler 268 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Murray too, Higsman Trophy winners. How much fun was that 269 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: off as to be part of it was unbelievable. Scoring 270 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: points was um, you're supposed to score points. You're supposed 271 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: to score a lot of points, and you need to um, 272 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: it's fun to be good, and it was fun to 273 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: be a part of that offense. I remember Orlando telling me, like, 274 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: I think it was like so Baker got there and 275 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: he was on the scout team and like and I'm like, 276 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm curious where you fit into this, because I think 277 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: Orlando might have been on the scout team too. And 278 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: basically you guys were just that was their red shirt year. 279 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: That was the year I was in junior college when 280 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: they were tearing it up. They were basically killing the deal, 281 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: was starting def stories about all that stuff. Yes, and Mark, 282 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: I think Mark Andrews was part of that too. They 283 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: were all around the same hs. So how long did 284 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: it take you to become a starter at Oklahoma? Three 285 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: or four games? My whole career, I've been getting I've 286 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: been getting my opportunity through the mud. Uh. Jonathan Alvarez 287 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: gets hurt at TCU week three or four of the 288 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: year and I go in and I finish it out right. 289 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: So what what does that do for your How does 290 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: that God of shape your mentality and who you are 291 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: as a person and as a player. I'm an underdog 292 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: and I love it. I love coming when no one's 293 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: expecting it and grabbing it and succeeding. That's also something 294 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: I take pride in. That's cool And so I mean, 295 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm curious to talking about other players on that Oklahoma offense. 296 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: So you mentioned Mark. You know, Mark is like he's 297 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: an intense dude now right Like he he has just 298 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: always locked in. Was he like that in college or 299 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, when you're in college you're partying a little 300 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: bit more. Always been, He's always been a mania? Is 301 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: that like? So when on this team two of them 302 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: were gone, you had Orlando and you had Hollywood, But 303 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: like there's like this Oklahoma thing with this with this team. 304 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: Is that something that you guys kind of like relish 305 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: being Oklahoma East. It was a lot of fun earlier 306 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: on when we had Orlando and Markey's with us and 307 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: now it's just me and Mark. But to be able 308 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: to have four guys from two different draft classes all 309 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: drafted within the first four rounds, that's really special because 310 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: it never happens, like, I don't know, I'd have to 311 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: go back, and you know, there's not many teams that 312 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: have two, like four guys in in two years. That 313 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: just doesn't happen very much. The thing something else that 314 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: sticks out about you, and I think it is always 315 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: going to be part of your story. Here is the draft? 316 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: Is your draft? Um? And and Mo Gabba announced you? Yeah, unbelievable. 317 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was happening. I got off the 318 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: phone call um with Eric Um. Like ten minutes later 319 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: the TV goes on and they say Mo Gabba is 320 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,479 Speaker 1: gonna announce this next draft pick. And I had no idea. 321 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: And the way he said my name, it made me 322 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: feel like I was first overall quarterback off the board. 323 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: That's how he made me felt. And it was so 324 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: special and something I'll never forget that It's really cool. 325 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Does that still stick with you now? Like when you 326 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: see the Mo painted in the end zone. Every time 327 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: I see it, I think of him every time I 328 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: see Every time I see the Mom in the end zone, 329 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: I think about in twenty twenty when we had the 330 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: COVID year and we had most section with all his 331 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: cutouts up there. Um. Yeah, what was it like the 332 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: first time you met him? It was unbelievable. He was 333 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: here for one of the practices. I walk up to 334 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: him and I say hey, Mo, And he knew exactly 335 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: who I was, you know, because he couldn't see I 336 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: knew exactly who I was, and it was he knew 337 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: my voice. It was it was very special for me. 338 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: He gave me the draft card and Brail, I have 339 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: that framed up back home. Yes, very cool. It seemed 340 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: like you two really did forge a relationship. What was 341 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: having that special connection? Um to be able to him 342 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: announced me and for him to be able to do that, 343 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like that naturally brought us to 344 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: have that shared special memory. I feel like that it's 345 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: something we could share forever. Well, Like you know, when 346 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: you get drafted. Obviously I'm sure you didn't know most 347 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: story before that point. Um, you know, standardly so, but 348 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: when you get drafted, you see him make the announcement 349 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: it you know, we had the video of the draft room, 350 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: um and Eric is tearing up and there seemed like 351 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: there wasn't a dry eye in that room as Moe 352 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: read that pick and your name was announced. Was it 353 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: kind of a lot to process? Like, man, this is 354 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: like I'm now part of something kind of significant here. 355 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: Uh with this pick. I knew immediately that this is 356 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: something special and that's something I'm gonna remember forever and 357 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: I will. That's very cool. So so carrying that forward, 358 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean, is that something that that drives you, you know, 359 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: to be like that player that you know you can 360 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: be the underdog and you know Mo was an underdog too, 361 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: he fought a lot too. Does that kind of propel 362 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: you moving forward? Definitely? It definitely does. Yeah, that's awesome. 363 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,239 Speaker 1: So what do you what do you see for this 364 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: offense as it as it goes into December football? You know, 365 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: we're in it now, Like do you see it as Hey, 366 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: this running game, this old line, that's what that's often 367 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: what wins games in December. Yes, I agree, we have 368 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: a lot of momentum going forward and I see us 369 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: starting to click on all cylinders and it's gonna get 370 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: scary awesome. But like you, like you said in the 371 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: fourth quarter of games, when you can kind of wear 372 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: down teams in the fourth quarter of the season, I 373 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: think that same thing can probably happen, and so I'm 374 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to you guys doing that. Yeah, thanks appreciate cool. Well, 375 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: thank you to Ben for joining us. Really enjoy the 376 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: conversation with him. 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New users get a free entry with their 387 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: first deposit. Again, the code is flock at DraftKings. So 388 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: what do you think of the conversation with Ben? I 389 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: thought it was great. Man. He's he's an intense dude, 390 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: like I like a straightforward way of answering questions, No, 391 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: no nonsense. He's an offensive lineman. You can kind of 392 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: tell um and I like him and just uh, also 393 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: just like a fun dude like uh, I like getting 394 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: to know him a little bit. Bend is one of 395 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: those players that you you know, he just kind of 396 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: flies under the radar by virtue of, in part being 397 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. That's just kind of the life of 398 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: a no lineman. But you don't get a lot of 399 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: chances to really talk with him and get to know him. 400 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: So it was it was fun. Well it's like, I mean, 401 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: this is no knock against Ben, but like left guard 402 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: is like the least sexy position on the field, you 403 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like the guard spot guard guard. 404 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: The guard spots are like the last guys that like 405 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: get any of the shine. And like he knows that. 406 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: Um and he even said, like you know something about 407 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: like I've got to come through the mud or fight 408 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: through the mud like my entire career, and um, I 409 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: just think that like he's comfortable in that spot. And 410 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: also like, man, he's got the mentality of an offensive 411 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: lineman that you want, yeah for sure, And like I 412 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: didn't I kind of was, you know, like you said, 413 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't talk to him all that that much and 414 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: so you don't necessarily like get a sense of that. 415 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: But when he was at Oklahoma and like, uh, I 416 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: remember when we drafted him, like looking back at some 417 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: of his interviews and media day stuff, and like he 418 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: had some of those one liners and like people kind 419 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: of loved him and uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna snap 420 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: you in half, like that type of mentality, and like 421 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: he's got that mentality on the field, and like when 422 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens call a play like they did on third 423 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: down to win the game and they have him pulling 424 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: like that shows you the confidence that they have in him. 425 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: Well a ton of times they've done that countless times. 426 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's very similar to what 427 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: Bradley Boseman did previously when he was playing guard, you know, 428 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: back a couple of years ago. And you see that 429 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: a lot with Ben Powers and just you know, he 430 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: gets downhill and he's a big man and he just 431 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: has been thumping people all year long. And I think 432 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: it's really been good to see his mobility. You know, 433 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: I think you weren't really sure how athletic he was 434 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: and for him to kind of, you know, take his 435 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: training and get bigger and stronger and faster more than mobile, 436 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: and like he's just really grown into that position and 437 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: is playing it at a very high level. Yeah. And 438 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh said this week he kind of called him out, 439 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: you know, in a positive way, saying, like, look, no 440 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: one really talks about this guy, but like he's having 441 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: a really good season and I think that that's that 442 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: says a lot about him. And the last thing too, 443 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: I'll say is like you know, going into training camp, 444 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: like when everyone was making their predictions. You know, he 445 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: doesn't read the rat poison give you a big points 446 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: that you put out there. But like I think a 447 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: lot of people if you were to do the media 448 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: projections like had Ben Cleveland or Tyry Phillips winning that job, 449 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 1: and Ben's like, okay, that's fine, you guys can make 450 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: those predictions. You know, I'm not even reading them. And 451 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: he just went to work and like, like I said, 452 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: every step of the way, it was like, no, Ben's 453 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: just the best guy. Like he just was clearly the best. Yeah. 454 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: He started he kind of started out in the in 455 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: the pole position, right and uh and he just kept it, yep, 456 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: incredity to him. So look, this offensive line, if it 457 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: plays like I did against the Steelers, then the Ravens 458 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: are gonna They're gonna I think it's this isn't like 459 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: any sort of like hot take here, but like the 460 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: Ravens down, you know, the Ravens sounds stretch are gonna 461 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: like they are gonna ground a pound Like this is 462 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: this is going to be the recipe for this team. 463 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: I was just about to say, I mean, what's the 464 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: strength of the offense, right, I mean we all know 465 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's like the best player, right, but he's hurt. 466 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: What's the strength of the Ravens offense? If you're gonna 467 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: point to one position group, well, look, Mark andrew is 468 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: pretty darn good. Yes, Mark, tight ends are tight ends 469 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: are are very good. Um, But I think this offensive 470 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: line as a whole is the strength. Yeah, that's become 471 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: the strength of the Ravens offense. And in honesty, the 472 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: tight ends are an extension of that right of the 473 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: offensive line, like Josh Oliver, Nick Boyle, Mark Andrews. Let's 474 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: give Mark a little love here. I know what, Mark 475 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: hasn't been catching a lot of balls recently, but the 476 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: blocking that he's been doing and watching the film has 477 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: been integral. There are a number of spots we want 478 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: to talk about that third down six yard run by 479 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: Gus Edwards, who was blocking t J. Watt on that 480 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: play Mark Andrews. Not an easy assignment, is it? Well? 481 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know t J. Watts like known for 482 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: being a pass rush just so he gets up field 483 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: and you have to kind of wall him off. But 484 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: like you know, Mark did it, you know, and and 485 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: there are a number of INSS were marked through big 486 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: blocks and you see him celebrating just like he would 487 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: if he were catching a touchdown, you know, and like 488 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: you just see that that dude is a winner. It's 489 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: personified in that way just watching him go about his 490 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: job of blocking. So so really the offensive line and 491 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: the tight ends because and and pat Ricarda had a 492 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: monster game in Pittsburgh too. You want to talk about 493 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: an extension of the offense, exactly, He's it. He's a 494 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: battering ram so um. But that's the strength of the 495 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: team right now is blocking for this this running game, 496 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: and it's only going to get better when the Mars 497 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: back on the field. I mean, obviously he's the most 498 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: talented runner, and I just think that there's something to 499 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: be said, and it's it's really hard to do in 500 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. But like when everyone knows that you're gonna 501 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: run when you're down to your third quarterback and you 502 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: need to first down to win the game, well and 503 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: to Anthony Brown isn't really known for his legs, for 504 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: his speed, right, so, like the threat of the quarterback 505 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: run was kind of gone, right like when Snoop, when 506 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: Snoop's in there, they still have to respect his ability 507 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: to take off. When Anthony Brown's not in there, they don't, 508 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, you lose some of that advantage, the hesitation 509 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: from an outside linebacker or a Dan crashing down on 510 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: that play. So made the job even harder for the 511 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: run game, and they got it done. Yeah. So look, 512 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: I think that that's going to be the recipe, especially 513 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: if Lamar Jackson, you know, we're to miss Sunday's Saturday's 514 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: game in Cleveland if he you know, if he's if 515 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: he misses another game or two, then I think that 516 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: that's even when he's back, I still think that, like 517 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: the ground and pound approach is going to be the 518 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: is gonna be the philosophy. That's gonna be the mindset, 519 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be like what the Ravens offense tries 520 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: to establish in every game, especially as it's cold. I mean, really, 521 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: what you want to do over you know, Yes, that's 522 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens philosophy. They've built this team in this this 523 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: offense around a rushing attack. Right, you have the most 524 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: prolific running quarterback of all time, you you know, put 525 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: a invest in the offensive line in front of him. 526 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: That's what you're gonna do, right, and then you try 527 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: to establish and get the passing game humming over the 528 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: course of the season, especially early on mid season. You know, 529 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: there was all that talk about Greg Roman wanted to 530 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: get Lamar Jackson like heat up as a passer, right 531 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: because I felt I feel like the Ravens wanted to 532 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: go into December and January playoff football. You want both 533 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: things clicking, you know, the passing game and the running 534 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: game clicking. Right, that's the ideal scenario exactly. You You 535 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens know that they're gonna get in different game scripts. 536 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to the the postseason, you might 537 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: have to come from behind, from fourteen points behind, whatever, 538 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: So you want both of those to be as strong 539 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: as they can be. Unfortunately, Lamar got hurt. You know, 540 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: the passing game really never got a chance to get humming. 541 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: And now it's made the Ravens have to really double 542 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: down their efforts on saying we have to run the 543 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: ball really well. You know, they still hit some passing 544 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: plays that make a difference, right, but moving forward, they're 545 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: not gonna suddenly in December January. You know, throw the 546 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: ball thirty times for fifty yards, you know what I mean. 547 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: So like that's not gonna happen. They're they're kind of 548 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: by virtue of Lamar's injury and the passing game never 549 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: really clicking since the very beginning of the season, they've 550 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: kind of become a running it's got to work on 551 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: the ground, it's got to right. And so that's what 552 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: the mission for this offensive line and whatnot is to say, 553 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: if they're gonna if they're gonna devote stopping the run, 554 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: we've gotta be able to run it anyway. And seeing 555 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: what they did in Pittsburgh is a good sign of that. 556 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: I I agree with mostly, like how you characterize that. 557 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see when Lamar's back on the 558 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: field if that does shift a little bit. Oh, of course, 559 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: when Lamar's back on the field, it's gonna be a 560 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: better passing offense too. Yeah, of course, I just think that. Yeah, 561 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar's a magician. Like Lamar's on the field 562 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: and anything could happen, and he's gonna hit some big plays. 563 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying they're not gonna hit any passing 564 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: place from here on out. They are, even with Sleep 565 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: on the field, they are. But like the with when 566 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about the bread and butter and what's got 567 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: to work for them to win. I think that they 568 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: have to run the ball well offensively if they're gonna 569 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: have a lot of offense offensive success. Yeah, yeah, I 570 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: don't think that if there's games where they are held 571 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: under a hunter rushing yards, that's probably not a winning formula. 572 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: And that I'm moving forward, and you know, like we 573 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit earlier in the week. 574 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: I think that, man, it's it's good to see that 575 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: j K Dobbins Gus Edwards want to punch like looking 576 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: like what we expected. And if you know, I asked 577 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: j K about that yesterday, like do you think this 578 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: could be the strength of the team, and he kind 579 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: of downplayed it a little bit, and so like, yeah, 580 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to be like, yeah, I'm the best part. Yeah, 581 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: but I think that he's I think that he and 582 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: Gus are still like we're still figuring out the knee 583 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: and we're still getting back and all that, like that's 584 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: still part of the process. So like let's let's pump 585 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: the brakes a little bit. I think it's what he 586 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: was saying. But like, I think that that that those 587 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: two guys, if like they continue to make those strides 588 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: and this offensive line blocks like I did against Pittsburgh. Yeah, 589 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be tough to stop this ground games 590 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: just it. And you just saw with j K. I 591 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: think what we all saw in Pittsburgh was that's a 592 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: professional runner. That's that's just that's just a running back 593 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: right there, right, Like that's what he was in Ohio State, 594 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: right and he can catch the ball and you like, 595 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: if he hadn't gotten hurt last year, I think he 596 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: would have caught a fair number of passes. Like that's 597 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: an underrated part of his game. But the dude is 598 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: just a professional running back. He knows how to like 599 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: the hesitation, the patients, the the ability to wiggle through 600 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: little gaps, like the ability to read where the best 601 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: you know, the best path, where's the lane, where it's 602 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: where is it not? Like that dude is just a 603 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: really really good running back. And I think you see, 604 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: even if he's not at full strength physically, his skills 605 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: as a running back just everything that makes it, his balance, 606 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: all that stuff physicality makes him a very very effective player. 607 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: In a big addition to this offense, Um talking about 608 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation, by the way, in the injury situation. 609 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: We got an email here from Ivan and he asked, 610 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: if Tyler Huntley is ready, then I would let Lamar sit. 611 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Even if he is medically cleared to start. Then Coach 612 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: Harves has a choice between sending Anthony Brown or Lamar 613 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: Jackson out. His circumstances require a quarterback change. At this point, 614 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: it's win by any means necessary. Right, So he's saying, 615 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: like if Lamar we had an email kind of earlier 616 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: about rest Mark still January, he's saying, he's saying, he's saying, like, 617 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: let snoop and then and then Lamar is the emergency 618 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: backup if he's able to come in. It's basically like, 619 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, I want the the Lamar coming off the 620 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: bench to just throw him. It's like the movie script, 621 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: you know, he comes, Well, this is just this is 622 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 1: just yeah, if if you have to kind of thing 623 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: all right, like you know you have this in your backet, 624 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: like if we need to pull out this car, you 625 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: rest him if you can, but if you have to 626 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: pull it out and then you put Lamar in the game. 627 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: All I do think it's an interesting thought. Like I 628 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 1: do think it's like that's kind of a you know, 629 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: if like you're playing a video game and you're like, 630 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: all right, like if I need to go to him, 631 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: I will, you know, But like I don't think that's 632 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: what the Ravens are gonna do. When Lamar Jackson is 633 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: able to play, he's gonna play. He's gonna sorry, that's 634 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: what that's what's gonna happen. They're not they're not gonna 635 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: like they're not gonna say, well, we're probably gonna win 636 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: this game without him, so we're just gonna keep him 637 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: on the bench. Like, when Lamar can play, he's gonna play, 638 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: and that'll be dictated by you know, we'll get a 639 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: good sense of that this week, you know, as we 640 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: see the practice reports and we'll kind of have an 641 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: idea whether he's gonna be able to play, um and 642 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: the other. You know, it's good news. Tyler Huntley was 643 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: back in practice at the start of the week, which 644 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: was like a great sign, you know, like, Okay, if 645 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: if he's not out there at the start of practice 646 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: during the really okay, could be trouble. Um. But yeah, 647 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: when Lamar's active, he's gonna When Lamar can play, he's 648 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: gonna play. And also in Raven's mail back I answered 649 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: a similar question on this. It's like, you know, do 650 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: you are the Raven's gonna rush Lamar back? Basically if 651 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: Snoop is dealing with its concussion, nor is gonna go 652 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: through the Mars. A medical uh situation is separate and 653 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: apart from everything else. Yeah, and so is so is 654 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley's. Like they're not Tyler Huntley's. They're independent of 655 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: each other these medical situations. So when players are able 656 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: to play, they're gonna return and they'll play at that point. 657 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: So what's just in terms of this week? Obviously, Deshaun Watson, 658 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: it's a it's a relatively different teams as you are 659 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: you scared? Are you still scared? Mr? Brownie? Or did 660 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: the wind in Pittsburgh kind of get your were your nerves? No? 661 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 1: I think um, like it was a close game when 662 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens and Browns match up earlier this year with 663 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: your Kobe Rissett at quarterback. I think the Browns this 664 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: year when you look at their team, like, you know, 665 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: it's it's been a frustrating season for them, you know, 666 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: like they expected to be a team that was in 667 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: the mix, you know, very much in the playoff picture. 668 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 1: And I think their hope was, like, first of all, 669 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: they didn't was to be in the playoff picture until 670 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: and then when de Shaun Watson came back to try 671 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: to make a run out and you know, he hasn't 672 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: looked great into two games so far. I'm not putting 673 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: too much. The guy didn't play for two years. So, like, 674 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I'm not on the there's there. Yeah, 675 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm not in the camp of like, well, de Shaun 676 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: Watson's done, you know, Like I think that it does 677 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: take some time. Um, so hopefully it takes a little 678 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: bit longer. I don't want to take three games. I 679 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: wanted to be longer than that. Um. But no, I 680 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: think the Ravens. I think the Ravens are the better team. 681 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: I think that the Ravens when they're able to run 682 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: the ball, like we just talked about. I think this 683 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: defense is if they play with their ability to get 684 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: turnovers like they did against Pittsburgh, and then they combine 685 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: that with like you know, not giving up some of 686 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: the yards that they did. Like, if they put all 687 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: that together, then they're one of the best defenses in 688 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, that's the other the the other side 689 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: of the coin here I was talking about the rushing 690 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: attack and need to run the ball. You know, you 691 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: don't have to with the way this defense is playing 692 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: right now. Like you know, they're gonna limit teams and 693 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: so you don't have to put up thirty points a game. Yeah, 694 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: well you put up sixteen and you beat the Steelers. 695 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: You put up ten. And I said it was a 696 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: race of seventeen. Neither team got there in the races 697 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: still one. Yeah, and I don't think I don't think 698 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: either team goes over twenty this week. No, I think 699 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: it's another low scoring affair. Yeah, and that's probably gonna 700 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: be the recipe here moving forward. So it might be 701 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: another races seventeen. And I like the Ravens in that situation. Yeah, 702 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean, look the Browns. The strength of the Browns 703 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: offensively is Nick Chubb in the running game. The Ravens 704 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: have been playing really well against the run. They have 705 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: to continue that. This is a tough test, right, So 706 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: this this is uh, this is not gonna be easy. 707 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: But I think the Ravens are up to the task. Um. 708 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: And then you know you talk about, well, you know 709 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: they didn't they played a close game against the Browns 710 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: and that was when Jacoby Brissette was under center. You know, 711 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: Jacoby pri Sett was playing at a pretty high level. 712 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think like you get a big 713 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: discount on that. Like he was playing some so he 714 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: had games that were better than the Shaun Watson's past 715 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: few games, right, So like and you know the Ravens 716 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: have played DeShawn Watson well granted that, you know, in 717 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: two games against him with the Texans, and it's a 718 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: different system and all that stuff, So the whole lot 719 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: doesn't apply. I'm just saying, like, you know, I ain't scarred, 720 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I guess no, Look, I I 721 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: like the Ravens in this situation. I like the Ravens 722 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: uh in December football with a run game, roll like 723 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: it is with Ben Powers clearing that it's gonna be 724 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: a close game. And when whenever, yeah it always is 725 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: with Cleveland, it seems like and whenever you get in 726 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: close games anything, it's gonna be cool too. I mean, 727 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's a four thirty game, it's gonna be 728 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: dark by halftime, it's gonna be earlier than the half time. Yeah, 729 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 1: the first quarter. This get a couple of you get 730 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: a couple of quarters in the sun, and there's a 731 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: couple a couple of series. I mean, it's gonna be 732 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be cold like that's all. That stuff is 733 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: a factor when you get into this time of the season, 734 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: especially playing in that stadium with the wind howling off 735 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: the lake is gonna be Chili fridgid down there on 736 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: the field, and um, I like the team with a 737 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: great defense and a dominant running game to thrive in 738 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: that environment. And that's the rave. This is gonna be 739 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: a that'd take you by surprise with that one.