WEBVTT - Gun Fu + John Wick: Ballerina 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.480 Any of his Jason Concepcion and on Roseay Night and 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.720 welcome back to X ray Vision, the podcast where we 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.439 dive you to your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.160 Coming to you from iHeart Podcast, where we're bringing you 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:32.880 three huge episodes a week every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday plus 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:34.320 news plus news. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:40.360 On today's episode, we are talking about the upcoming new 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:41.519 John Wick movie. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:42.519 Have you heard of it? 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:48.400 It's called Ballerina, which is interesting. Ballerina. That's because it's 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:50.800 a spinoff. Yes, exactly, So it's a spin off. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.479 It starts on a damas. We haven't seen it. 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.560 So we're gonna use this as a chance to talk 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.360 about the Drunk franchise, talk about gun Fu, one of 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.360 my favorite sub genres that takes the close quarters of 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.119 martial arts and a kung fu film and adds a 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.160 shit kind of crazy guns being used in completely illogical 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:10.200 but fantastic ways. And I'll also talk about what Ballerina 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.800 needs to do to be a hit. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:21.560 Okay John Wick. John Wick's Ballerina starring on an armis 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:25.160 coming out this week, directed by our favor one of 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:30.760 our one of our werewolf in Vampire Phaves Len Wizman. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.920 The film takes place during the events I Love the 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:40.040 Love the People, I Love It, I Love Timeline Shifting, 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:47.320 UH spinoffs, Fast and the Furious style chronology. So this 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.160 film takes place during the events of John Wick Chapter 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:55.800 three Parabellum, which is an interesting note for the apparent 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.800 john Wick cameo, or maybe it's more than a cameo, 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.040 or maybe it's less that takes place in the film 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.200 and it follows Eve maccarl out of Diarmis, who is 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:09.600 beginning her training in the assassin traditions of the Ruska Roma, 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:14.280 which is apparently a subgroup that is then involved in 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.840 the overall assassin culture of the John Wick films. 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.840 We saw them training in the kind of theater in 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:23.120 the Fust movie, I. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:28.000 Believe, and according to Variety, Lionsgate which is at this 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:34.680 point like much the same way that New Line was 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.160 the House Built by Freddy, this is like the House 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.440 Built by John Wick is targeting a so SO start 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.680 of about twenty eight to thirty million from thirty four 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.280 hundred North American locations in the first weekend of release. 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:50.320 Vallerine is looking to add another thirty million from international 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.480 markets after that. SO we're gonna get a chance that 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.959 we're going to talk about the film after we see it, 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.880 but this is our conversation to get you ready for it. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.359 We talk about various things related to john Wick, Anody Armis, 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:07.240 and Len Wizman. First of all, Rosie, what does this 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:11.760 movie need to do to be a quote unquote successful 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.520 entrance into the john Wick franchise. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.720 I think the reason that the john Wick movies are 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:25.000 so beloved is because they are inventive, stunt focused, something 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.520 just totally different than we'd seen before. Obviously, you have 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.200 a great omnibus this episode coming up about Gunfu, but 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.800 we hadn't really seen a Western Gunfu movie in the 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.720 same way that we've you know, someone like john Wick 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.560 John Wu deals with them, or even the way that 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.160 the Matrix in the late nineties early Zeros kind of 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:49.160 played with it a little bit. John Wick felt completely 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:54.400 different and it gave Keanu Reeves a new franchise. It 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:59.880 reintroduced him to audiences. It had a really easy, you know, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:05.120 original but completely classic revenge motif, but it was about 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.400 a dog and the emotional connection to a dog. It 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.760 gave us different kinds of villains by making the Mafia 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.960 Russian mafia focused kind of villains, which often these kind 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.800 of movies where somebody takes revenge after their family die, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:24.680 like a death Wish or the Notorious Peppermint, often come 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.240 across as very racist because they're just about killing a 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.520 bunch of black and brown people. So this really was 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:34.480 a complete shot to the system for action and I 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:38.400 think the dream version of this is that this can 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:44.040 be that for Anadames for female action movies. But will 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.040 it deliver on that, I don't know, because so far 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.359 they're already heavily connecting it to John Wick. 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.240 I think this comes from an era where they wanted. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.320 To do a lot of John Wick sequels without Keanu, 0:04:54.760 --> 0:05:01.320 including The Continental, which was a very belagued series a 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.599 beleagued network, and it ended up not hitting in the 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.920 same way. So I'm interested to see I hope this 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.400 goes well. We have seen this is the thing that 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:15.560 I'm most interested about. We've seen Anada Armis in one 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.359 of the best action sequences of the last I know 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.960 ten years in the Last James Bond movie with Daniel Craig, 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:22.839 where the pem. 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.200 Meet up No time to die. 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:28.200 It's so good they meet up, they're kind of immediately 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.760 thrown into this fun, crazy action sequence. She totally holds 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:37.080 her own. She's absolutely incredible, and I'm hoping that they 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.920 get to channel that into this movie, because she really 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.599 was a star. But the trailers are don't show a lot. 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.720 We haven't seen the movie yet. The movie comes out 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.120 in a few days. The embargo is not up, so 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.560 it doesn't always bode well, but I'm hoping that this. 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:55.119 Could be great. 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.560 Also, I will say, as we mentioned then Wiseman, this 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:03.640 is a man who has directed many female led action 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.360 movies in the shape of the Underwhelmed franchise. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.919 So there's a version where it could be good. But 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:10.599 I don't know. 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.279 We're gonna have to do by the way, so let's 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.719 let's briefly talk all things. Len. Here's my thing with Lynn. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.159 I love It's a guilty pleasure, but I love all 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:24.160 the Underworld movies. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.279 Of course, they're not enjoyable. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:32.760 Quote unquote good really, but they are. The casts are 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:38.719 almost uniformly wonderful. The action is and the story and 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.520 setup is just wildly over the top, and they get, 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:49.760 like I mean, they get incredible performances from some really 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:56.680 really talented actors in these films. And the action is 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:03.080 this kind of Matrix inspired horror action that is wonderful, 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.080 in your face, over the top. It's just very watchable, 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.960 like Saturday Afternoon like fair for me. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:15.240 It's very It's very Pool w s Anderson on Yes, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.240 with an evil franchise like him and Lenn with their 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.520 wives that were starring in the movies, were very, very 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:26.520 clearly excited to make action againaws out of that wife 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:27.560 and I who can blame him? 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:31.320 Yes, and again, the talent is fantastic. I get Kate 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.360 beckhamsale like, don't get it twisted because of the kind 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:39.080 of B movie framing of the underworlds. Here, She's a 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:45.679 legitimately very talented actor. And Bill Nihey, is it these films? 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:51.560 Michael Sheen? Is it these films? Mike chewing up scenery? Yeah, 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:57.440 shirt off Michael Sheen, full like werewolf mode. Now Here's 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:02.800 so love love Len. Here's the issue. I don't want 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.520 to see him doing anything other than vampire wearwalth movies, 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.760 which gives me some pause about Ballerina because two thousand 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.960 and sevens Live for Your die Hard. I think the 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:21.320 you know, a much forgotten and rightfully sow entrant into 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:29.640 the long running Diehard series Awful twenty twelve, the if 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:34.800 you haven't seen it, don't see it remake of the 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:39.960 nineteen eighties Arnold Schwarzeneger hit Total Recall. The twenty twelve 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.880 when we've been directed, Total Recall is awful. Get just 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:49.360 none of that, Dems and go watch you please watch 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:57.000 the Paul Verehoven version, which is weird. It is campy, practical, wonderful, 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:02.080 practical effects. This kind of sly subversiveness that for Hoven 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.600 is known for. The Weizman thing is just like when 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.800 he's not doing the werewolves in the Vampires. It's like 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.360 a straight action movie and it's so straight that I'm 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.040 I don't know, it doesn't have any charge for me. 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:17.720 They don't even go to Mars. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.880 They don't go they don't even go to Mars, which 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:21.720 is what are we doing? 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:21.800 That? 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:22.400 Crazy? 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:27.520 Crazy? And so that part of it, I'm a little 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:29.679 I'm a little worried Rosie. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.880 So so I will say, I think the thing that 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.800 lem Weiseman does well is hard genre right. He yes 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.200 was the executive producer on Sleepy Hollo. He was an 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.679 executive producer on Lucifer The Great Tea. 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.600 Under Wonderful underrated Lucifer Yeah. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.120 Gifted the early X Men TV show that we've got 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.280 in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, also surprisingly good swamp thing. 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.880 We all know how I feel about that TV shs philosophy, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.160 But like, I think that he has a good eye 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.000 for weird, hard genre stories. 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.160 I hope that what this can do is lean into. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:05.640 The magical realism of the High Table as the Ruscaroma 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.720 and which essentially from what we've seen so far in 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.440 the franchise, is like a black Widow program or a 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.800 redwom program, or the Jennifer Lawrence movie Blackbird. There's many 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:20.040 different kind of versions of this, like Russian children, especially 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.280 women being trained from you know, we love to become 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:23.720 a sac. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:28.960 I love Russian mobster baddies ever like it. 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.400 I know America can't get enough, and I just I'm 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:39.240 very interested to see where it goes. I think that 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.000 the pair of the I think that Len Wiseman and 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.400 Ana Damas could be a great She has got kind 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.920 of a similar vibe to Beckham Sale, where she takes 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.920 unexchecuted roles. She can be in a rom com, but 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:56.800 she can also be in an action movie. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.280 Okay, So let's see. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:07.440 I'm interested because the story of this movie is that 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.800 there was bad test screenings, there was reshoots, there was 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.559 a lot of money put into it. You know me, 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.000 I'm always like I would probably rather see whatever that 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.080 version was like two years ago when it was probably 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:24.520 a super low budget, weird movie. But the big question 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.600 I think out of all of it, as with any 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.960 and this is not to put anything unfair onto Anna. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.640 This is to ask the question that we ask of 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:35.240 any movie like this, like we asked of Gladiator too 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:36.119 with Paul. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.400 Mescal Does Ana Damas have the juice? 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:43.600 Jason, I am a little concerned that she doesn't have 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:48.800 the juice simply because I think if she had the juice, 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.360 it would have been juicing by now. 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.000 It would have already been selling the juice. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:57.800 I mean, it's been several years since. You know, when 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.400 was the I think it was like PLoP p probably 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.559 war Dogs or Blade Runner twenty forty nine, when you 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.880 when you first started hearing oh Anadharmas is coming, knives out, 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.400 oh Anna Dharmas is coming, so yeah, and then certainly 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:15.319 no time to die, and then the starring role. It's 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.920 not that she hasn't starred in stuff. But the most 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.680 notable stuff you know her in is stuff where she 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.920 was a co star and I don't know, I don't 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:27.800 know that she has to do. She's done a lot 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:34.320 of kind of romantic type roles, including a absolutely weird, 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.320 weird Adrian lined erotic and no one loves an erotic 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:44.440 thriller more than Adrian, but like weird, weird erotic thriller 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.040 in which she co starred across from Ben Affleck, who 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:48.640 she's dating. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.440 It's such a weird movie. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:52.520 Yeah, it is a weird movie. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:57.480 Sexy snail movie. She was already in three movies with. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.840 Keanna Reeves, including the movie that I was talking about, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:04.000 not of a Drome Wake episode, the wonderfullly cheesy and 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.880 terrible Eli Roth movie Knock Knock, which I love but 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:09.400 is absolutely terrible. 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:16.840 And I've seen a lot of her films, I honestly 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:25.400 can't say that there's one time, including the deep Water 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:31.920 directed by everybody's favorite erotic thriller King Adrian Lyon, that 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:37.000 were I thought, Wow, Annie Armis's chemistry with the cast, 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.720 with her co star with whoever really pot whoa really 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:44.480 pops off the screen, and I think that's something. It's 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.640 that kind of X factor thing where maybe she just 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.600 doesn't have it, or maybe there's something holding back the juice. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.480 I also think that it's a lot of action roles 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.120 at this point, Like it's a lot of these kind 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.040 of roles, and I wonder if there's she does take 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.319 weird stuff, but I wonder if the choices are not 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.480 necessarily there kind of a big movie for any Armis 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.640 like this is this is. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.840 A hard set off a new era. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:18.040 Because this is a hard genre film where the franchise 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.160 is as big as of a star, arguably as the 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:26.600 star of the film, and expectations are medium, not high, 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:33.520 and so if it doesn't go it, I think it's it. 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.800 It's not great for both the john Wick franchise, who 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:42.240 trying to expand past Keanu Reeves who is sixty, and 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.920 for Andy Armis, who we've been waiting to kind of, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.840 you know, break big into a different level and it 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:52.560 hasn't happened yet. Your thoughts. 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.640 I would love for this to surprise us. I will say, like, as. 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.920 We know, john Wick was not some when it started. 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.840 It was not some like hugely surprising. It was not 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.200 some expected hit, you know, it was very much like 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.720 a slow burn smash that ended up launching a franchise. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:14.200 I think with everything with franchise movies, this does sadly 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:19.120 seem like it has the in the world of John Wick, like, 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.880 let's connect it to this thing, and it's like, is 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.680 are you making something that was as original as John Wick? 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.440 Are you making something that was as interesting as John Wick? 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.480 Do you have people like Chad Stileski behind the scenes. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.080 But I will say I have read a lot of 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:38.360 interviews with lem Wiseman about this because I do find 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.360 this movie to be in a very interesting place. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.520 If you look at the success of the John. 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.760 Wick movies, this should be one of the blockbusters. They 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.240 should have been doing fans screenings. They should already have 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:52.960 the reviews out like this should be like and it 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:57.640 feels unusual that they are not in that space. So 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.680 I've been reading to kind of try and find out. Definitely, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.560 I think sees this movie as a He is calling 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.200 it a spin on instead of a spin off, which 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.000 I kind of like because I'm like, Okay, well, if 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.080 you're just doing John Wick again but with a woman, 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:12.080 I'm kind of fine with that. 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.800 Yes, But I think what he really means. 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.880 Is it happens in the chronologue in the chronology of 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.720 the movies, whereas spinoffs often don't. But the thing I 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.320 have been interested. He has talked a lot about wanting 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:29.080 to explore the folkloric elements and the weird kind of 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:31.840 realities of the rest. 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.520 Of the simmar and that's kind so I agree. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.400 Hopefully, maybe the reason that it's not getting greater views 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.520 is because it's kind of weird and it can find 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:41.840 its own place. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:42.880 But I do think it's. 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.320 Tough because all these movies, you know, it has one 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:50.040 of those blooming posters that makes it look like they 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.280 see get a bunch of people's faces into it. I 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:58.080 don't think currently it looks like showing enough individual Yes, 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.920 it looks like the bloody end Game post and it's like, 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:05.080 I just don't I don't know that it's gonna I 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.840 want it to be more original than it currently seems. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.480 So let's hope this is a marketing issue rather than 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:11.639 an actual issue. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:17.560 How here's a question that I think anyone who's closely 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:24.960 watched the trailer will have. How much is Keanu Reeves 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:31.080 actually in this film? And will he and Anna actually 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.720 be in the not in the same scene, in the 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:38.000 same shot where they were clearly in the same space 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:39.800 at the same time. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.000 Post credit sequence. 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.639 Yes, I mean they have worked together three times, so 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:50.080 I'm kinda hoping that it gets to be something a 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:54.280 bit realer than that. But it does look like from 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.800 the trailer that it's very much like shooting from behind 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.000 a brunette woman's head who's in the same rim as 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.920 Keanu Reeves, and then shooting from a brunette man said, 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.320 who's in the same room as added armis, So yeah, 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.760 he He's probably gonna be in it for like three minutes. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.760 I would love if it was longer, because I do 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:14.920 think that john Wick mostly stands on the really great 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:19.400 weird relationships that Keanu makes throughout with his cast members 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.879 and the characters, like the stuff with him and Laurence 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.080 Fishburn or well on the Ferne. Like, there's so many 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.760 good weird moments that don't have to go on that long. 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:27.840 So I would love that. 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.560 But I also think that sadly, the original John Wick 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.679 movie was super weird. Nobody thought it was gonna make 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.639 any money, and I think that probably allowed them to 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.399 do a lot more weird stuff with it. I don't 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.399 know if we're going to get you know, twenty minutes 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.480 silent action sequences in this. 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.160 Movie, which is kind of what made john Wick great. 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:46.960 So I don't know. 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.760 Hopefully they're in the same room, but realistically I'm saying 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.480 under five minutes, probably not in the same you know 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:53.200 in really. 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.760 You know what, this movie makes me kind of pine 0:18:55.880 --> 0:19:04.360 for the uh john Wick mainstay. Director David Lych project 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:10.040 Atomic Blonde twenty seventeen staring Charlie's That is kind of 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:16.280 like pre john Wick Joan Wick, Like it's yeah, and 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.080 it just kind of got forgotten. I hope that doesn't 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.159 happen with this film. And I hope that that was 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.840 a weird movie also, like There Were every One is. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:31.200 A deeply weird movie, I believe, also in a good 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.640 way to be that person. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.960 It's also based on a comic book. Guy, Yes, that's true, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:37.440 based on a. 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.560 Comic book, and uh yeah, I think that's a really 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:45.360 weird fun movie. Also, you know what, maybe this can 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.760 be that movie for Ana Damas. Maybe that's the best 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.920 case scenario because truthfully, it was not like some huge 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:53.160 smash it for Charlie's. 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.440 But then she was in Fantastic, then. 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.480 She was in you know, the MCU, then she was 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.840 in most no, I think the Fast and Furious movies 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.720 as like an action star. So maybe this is gonna 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.280 hit in that way that has Anna recognized as an 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.680 action star and see where she could where she could 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:13.400 hopefully go What are I mean? 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:15.719 This is kind of like the larger question, right what 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.639 are what are hit movies anymore? Outside of we outside 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:20.320 of having. 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.159 This conversation like what does that even look like? 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.920 I think it's move outside of IP, like what is 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:25.320 a hit? 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:26.280 Okay, I'll tell you. 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:33.000 We do have a fantastic We have a fantastic situation 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:36.520 going on right now. We have a perfect example and 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:41.359 this is gonna change Hollywood for the next couple of years. Currently, 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:47.879 a successful movie is looks like sinnots. It's an original 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:51.840 IP movie that you give ninety million dollars to, but 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:56.080 that makes four hundred million dollars. That is a huge 0:20:56.119 --> 0:21:04.160 smash hit that becomes this kind of new mental zeitgeist, churning, 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:09.119 scene stealing film that makes every other movie around it 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.919 look bad. But that again is a lightning in a 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:15.359 bottle situation. I also think that we're still in a 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.760 world where successful movies are and Sinners is part of this. 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.200 They are genre movies often because the budget is lower. 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.240 You know, we're gonna have Megan two coming out soon. 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.440 I'm sure that that is gonna probably make a lot 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:31.040 more money than it costs. And I think that you 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:34.320 make a good point though, because what does a huge 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:35.280 franchise movie. 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:36.600 How does it have success? 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.080 Because I'm sure this movie costs a lot of money, 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.399 It's had reshoots, it's a John Wick movie. Those movies 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:47.159 budgets have ballooned. So what does a successful movie look like? 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:52.080 And how would Ballerina become successful? I mean, I'm gonna 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.440 tell you one thing. Look, I'm sorry Lionsgate because this 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.200 is definitely a Lionsgate issue. 0:21:57.280 --> 0:21:58.720 I'm gonna tell you number. 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.760 One reason that this movie proble will not be massively successful. 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.320 Why did they put From the World of John Wick 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:06.800 Colon before the name? 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:08.000 Just trust the name. 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:13.520 We've met the Ballerinas, we understand the notion like that 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:17.600 kind of stuff. I think, like no movie really has 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:21.119 ever done with a catchy name like From the World 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.400 of John Wick Colon balle You just trust. 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:29.119 The people John Wicks, John Wick's by John Wick. Ballerina 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.240 He's and then you're gonna be like, okay, but he's 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:36.280 only in it. Actually I'm never in the same places. 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.399 But who cares? Like you're just trying to you know, 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:40.720 like who who cares? 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:44.800 Okay, Ballerina did cost they're saying around eighty to ninety millions, 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:49.760 So let's see what it happens that Steward ball I'm yes. 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.439 I mean the fact this movie does kind of have 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:55.480 a banger cast, like Angelica Houston, who we've seen before 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:59.040 as the leader of the director of the Resciroma, gabrielle 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:01.720 Bert Burne. I love him, He's in so many different 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.600 great movies. Lance Reddick, he reprised his role before he 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:10.560 passed away as Karen. Also Norman Readers, who I also love, 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:14.320 and Ian McShane also in this before. 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:15.520 And Keanu Reeves. 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.320 So I do feel like I'm like, there is something 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.440 here that could be special. 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:27.800 Let me ask you something about Oh, Norman Readers hair dependent, Right, 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:32.000 He's like the Orlando Bloom He's somehow made a career 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:35.360 out of always have long hair exactly, never cut it. 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.400 Never cut that hair, bro don't do it. 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.040 Okay, So let me tell you this, this is one 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.959 of the most deranged things I've maybe ever heard. Okay, 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:52.320 in twenty seventeen, Lionsgate Films acquired Shay Hatton's action thriller Ballerina, 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.960 which itself was inspired when Hatton viewed the trailer to 0:23:56.080 --> 0:24:00.320