1 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: All right, let's do it live from the NFL Scouting 7 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: Combine in Indianapolis. Merely Bow Bishop and joined by a 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: big time luminary writer of the Gates, Assistant general manager 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Glenn Cook, joining me here in studio era not in 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: studio at the combine in India a couple of days 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: in Buddy, when you think about kind of breakdown the 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: important obviously this is a critical time. It's the meeting 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: of the league, it's all of those things. But from 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: your perspective, how do you juggle the way that you're 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: putting a roster together from trades, free agency. You guys 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: did the Denzel Ward deal today. Time you got all 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: these guys, you got to take a look at what's 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: the balance like for you guys. 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I mean, some of it's divide 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: and conquer, right, So we just make sure we use 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 3: our team. You have a great, great staff, personnel, staff 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: to uh, sort of scortch the earth and figure out, 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: you know, what's happening in the marketplace free agency wise 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: and and sort of kind of digging on the the 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: guys at the compline and getting information on them. So 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: it's you know, not one person can do it at all, 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: and that's why we're here to support Andrew and make 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: sure we uh sort of just build you know, build 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: up to both kind of pinnacle moments. So it's been 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: a good few days. Felt like it's been five days already, 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: you know, but it's been a few good day, good days. 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: Some good work we've got done so far. You know, 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: we'll continue to build. 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: Off of it. But it's good. It's good. 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: We had Andrew on yesterday and he was he was 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: still had some peppinist step and he said, you're lucky 37 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: you're getting me early in the week. Oh man, Friday, 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: much different field. It's cruelly right. I mean, there's a 39 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: lot we all view it, and I think a lot 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: of the fans view it as you know. It's downtown, 41 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: it's Saint Elmo's, it's Jerry Jones's bus, it's a big party, 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: all of this stuff. But Prime until two o'clock in 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: the morning. But this is critical stuff for you guys, 44 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: And this is I guess as you as you build 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: towards you know, you've got your roster retention, the restructurings 46 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: that will happen, You've got free agency, and then you 47 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: got the draft. Is this a jumping off point? Is 48 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: this a midpoint for you guys? How do you view 49 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: where the combine lands in your calendar? 50 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: I think depending on which phase of the roster building 51 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: we're talking about, it's it's a different point, right. 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 5: Sure. 53 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: In terms of free agency, it's probably a little bit 54 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: of a jumping off point. You know, a lot of 55 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: things will start to happen once once teams leave here. 56 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: In terms of you know, the college, it's probably more 57 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 3: of just an early it's still early in the process, right, 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: Like we've we've just worked through draft meetings with all 59 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: of our college scouts and the staff and and gotten 60 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: a first good pass on you know, getting all the 61 00:02:53,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: information aggregated into you know, the same place, and now 62 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: we're getting a chance for the first time, honestly to 63 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: meet a lot of these players and a lot of 64 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: these young men. So it's different for different phases, right, So, 65 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's good. It's a good opportunity, but 66 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: you can't you really can't just take anything you hear 67 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 3: here and move off of it. You still have to, 68 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: you know, use a lot of your process. And we've 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: we've been building. Like Andrew talked about it, right, He 70 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: kind of stepped back, you know, when the season was 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: over and assessed everything and it's it's a part of 72 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: the planning, planning process altogether. 73 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: So it's been good and and just from you know 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: that you're curious about where this is going to go. 75 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: You think about the you get done with the college season, 76 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: you get into the your Senior Bowls, your East West Shrine, 77 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: all that stuff. Then you come here. Then you've got 78 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: the pro days, then they meet with you. 79 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 4: Guys. 80 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: There are some of the guys at the top aren't 81 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: participating in a lot of the on field stuff. Marvin Harrison, 82 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: junior receiver at a high State obviously not going to 83 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: really do much of anything other than meet from players. 84 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: From from your perspective, what what part of this process 85 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: at the combine is most valuable? When you think about 86 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: the meetings, the medicals, the workouts, Is it all just 87 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: part of a big pie? 88 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: I think it all carries different value for each prospect, right, 89 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: you know, there's there's like I said, we just went 90 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: through draft meetings. We've collected a lot of information throughout 91 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: the fall so that you know, there's some components to 92 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: the player that. 93 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 4: That are more critical for. 94 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: Us to dive into while we're here, and that that 95 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: could for example, be you know, mentally, just getting a 96 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: better feel for you know, what their baseline is in 97 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: terms of understanding the game of football and what they've 98 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: done for their three four years you know, as a 99 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 3: player at their college, and then you know, some of 100 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: it it will be really important to make sure that 101 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 3: you know, medically they're in a good place or just 102 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: we have a good sense of what their you know 103 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: history you know, as an athlete physically has been. So 104 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: it's really an opportunity to decipher it all, you know, 105 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 3: depending on each each prospect. And so that's why it's 106 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: you know, the planning part of it is really important 107 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: for us to you know, go through our meetings. Kind 108 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: I understand, Okay, you know, we head to the combine, 109 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: you know, we really want to ascertain these specific things 110 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: on each prospects or you know, honestly, in terms of 111 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: our if we have interest in certain markets. Really, Hey, 112 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 3: I've into the receiver class just as an example, or 113 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: it could be you know, the corners. We really want 114 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: to make sure we understand leaving there, you know, just 115 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: kind of what the feel and vibe is across the league. 116 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: So I think it's it gives you an opportunity to 117 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: do it all. It's really important for us as an organization, 118 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: as a department to make sure we are really planned 119 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: out and map it out really well coming into the 120 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: combine because there is so much you can do, and 121 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: but if you're all over the place, you know, you 122 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: really may not get rich information. 123 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: You guys have You guys have just crushed some of 124 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: these mid round picks recently, even some of the these 125 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: mid early round picks. You think about MJ and the 126 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: player he turned into Dewan Jones as a guy last 127 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: year before the injury, who was unbelievable, Uh in terms 128 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: of when when was there an instant with those Let's 129 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: use those two guys as an example where you saw 130 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: him over here and it and it was there anything 131 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: that happened, It was like, yep, those those guys are 132 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: gonna check boxes for us. Do you have stories like 133 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: that of guys that or is there still so much 134 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: to do? 135 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 4: There's so much to do. 136 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: But I think it's it's really a testament to you know, 137 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: you talk about the process. I think it's a testament 138 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: to like, you know, our scouts, you know, use Dewan 139 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: for an example, like really high grades going into the 140 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: fall are coming out of the fall, right, and then 141 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: you get into draft me, do you kind of understand okay, hey, 142 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: you know, like here's a few things we want to 143 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: follow up on, things we want to understand. Uh, and 144 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: then you get to the comment and you kind of 145 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: hear some buzz and it's like, oh, okay, well, you know, 146 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: maybe he will be in play and then. 147 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: So it just helps. 148 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: I think it just helps to really like be thorough 149 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: because you never know, right, like in a million years, 150 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: you wouldn't have thought like Dewan would have made it, 151 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: you know, to the pick that he made it to. 152 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: But I think because of the way Andrew had us 153 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: prepared and ready to go, like we were able to 154 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: take advantage of the opportunity. It's really just like you know, 155 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: being prepared for those opportunities. That's a little bit of luck, 156 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 3: but you know, you kind of make your own luck. 157 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: So you know, we're glad he came to us at 158 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: that spot. And honestly, some people may say, hey, you 159 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: guys are stupid for not taking him as everywhere, right, 160 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: that's the part. 161 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. Nonetheless, we're glad. 162 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: We got them where we got them, But you know, yeah, 163 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: I think that's a good example of you never know 164 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: and similar it's similar on the side of free agency. 165 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: You know, you kinda we we assess what we think 166 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: guys will get paid, or you know, maybe where where 167 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: they may sign, and then you know, you start to 168 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: just collect collect information and you're like, hmm, maybe they're 169 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: in play, you know, or you know, maybe their market's 170 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: a little different than than what we thought, and kind 171 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: of go back and recalibrate your your plan and and 172 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: and get prepared to execute. 173 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: So got to be nimble, really do. Assistant trouble manager 174 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: Glenn Cook, who was quite nimble as a player back 175 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: in the day, I wanted to you know, we we 176 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: went through this this season. Ever had a chance to 177 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: talk to you since the season ended, and for us, 178 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: it almost felt like it was three seasons in one. 179 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: There was the Deshaun season, then there was the injury, 180 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: and then there was patchwork, a couple of different quarterbacks going, 181 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: and then there's the Flaco part of it in the 182 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: magical run at the end. I know that you guys 183 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: in the moment, are we got a game Sunday, grind 184 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: no matter what. But do you now that you've had 185 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: some distance from it? Yeah, and you put into your 186 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: my god, Conklin, Chubb, Watson, all of it that happened. 187 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: How do you put that season into perspective? Been football 188 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: a long time? That was crazy. Hey, I've never been 189 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: through anything like this. Yeah, Like it's uh, I mean, 190 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: it's awesome to see. You know, you have these different. 191 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: Processes that you've been in place, like, Hey, this is 192 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: our you know, weekly streak free agent process, and this 193 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: is how we assess who's available, and this is how 194 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 3: we stack the board. And we got to make sure 195 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 3: we're on top of communicating with agents. And I see 196 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: you can go through a year and be really thorough 197 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: and never really need to use it right and you know, 198 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: your pro group can kind of get maybe a little 199 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: bit bored with just the redundancy of it. But it's 200 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: I think going through this season, it reminds you of 201 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: the importance of those little things, you know, of making sure, 202 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: you know, we have standards for the players we bring 203 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: in for workouts, or have standards for how we stack 204 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: our boards and make sure there's a good balance of 205 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: fit and talent, you know, for some of the players 206 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: who are available in terms of being on the open market. 207 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: So I think that was refreshing to see. You know, 208 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: as a personnel department, you don't want to have to 209 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: use it to this extreme, but you know, kudos to 210 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,359 Speaker 3: like Adam Alcaya who's our pro director, and be Francis 211 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: Brandon Francis and Shane and our whole pro group, and 212 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: just it's just a reminder that every little thing we 213 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: do across you know, the operations may impact us. And 214 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: so but I think it goes throughout right, and I 215 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 3: be long winded, but it's like, all right, you know, 216 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of like the play acquisition piece 217 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: of it. But then you know, kudos to like our 218 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: staff for being able to get guys ready to play 219 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 3: on such short notice. And then our you know, our 220 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 3: our just entire development operation being able to onboard players 221 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: and you know, we got guys coming in, we have 222 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: injuries and you know, it's just that balance of making 223 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: sure that you know, we can execute on Sundays, like 224 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: it takes your entire operation. And so it was cool 225 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: to see, you know, us go into some of our 226 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: weekly meetings and say, hey, we got these five new 227 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: guys coming in. This is who they are, you know, 228 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: this is what we need to get done. You know, 229 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 3: you know, these guys are going to be on peace Squad. 230 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: This guy may need to play. You know, here's our plan. 231 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: Everybody be on board with executing it, and and then 232 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: see them play on Sundays and help us win games. 233 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 4: You know. 234 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: That's that That was the piece that was probably the 235 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: coolest because you know, you don't if you're not in 236 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: the building every day, you may not get to see that. 237 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: You just see Sunday, right, you know, you just see 238 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: you know, the guys show up and start sixty snaps. 239 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 3: You're like, oh man, he's a great You know, that 240 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: was awesome. But there's a lot that that goes into 241 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: it behind the scenes, and a lot of those people 242 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: maybe don't get the credit that you know, they deserve 243 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: for it. So that part was was really good. It 244 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: was really good to me. 245 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: It was it was such an organizational triumph. Yeah, to 246 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: go a lot to win eleven games with five quarterbacks 247 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: and you're playing your fourth and fifth tackles and Nick 248 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: goes down early. Like it was. It was a true 249 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: testament to what you all have built from the standpoint, 250 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: from the ground up to your point. It takes every 251 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: piece of that and the crazy thing and you you 252 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: hit on it. Most of the fans out there, look, 253 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: they're interested in Sundays. That's it's that's it. But it's 254 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: the rest of it. And and for you guys, there 255 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: is no time to feel sorry. No, you have no 256 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: time because Sunday comes. 257 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we got to make sure we put a 258 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: good team out there. For I mean, our fans are 259 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: as you know, they track this right, so they're tracking 260 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: everything we do and that you want that level of 261 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 3: accountability as a as a team, right like Cleveland deserves it. 262 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: So you're right right like it, you know it. There's 263 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a pressure, but you can't 264 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 3: feel you know, like DeShawn goes down, you can't feel sorry. 265 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: You got to you got to play on Sunday. 266 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: And when you feel like you have a good team 267 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: and you still can be competitive, our job is hey, 268 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: what do we need to do to win this game? 269 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 3: Coach I always talks about going one to zero, right, 270 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: so our mindset is like, hey, who and what do 271 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 3: we need to do in order to put us in 272 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: position to win this next game on Sunday? And then hey, 273 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: you have another injury? What do we need to do 274 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: to put ourselves in position to to win this game 275 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: on Sunday? So between Kevin and A B, there is 276 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: there's no leeway in terms of feel entire for yourself. 277 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 5: You know. 278 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: A B is very much like, hey, this is what 279 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: what what? What's the plan? You know, this is what 280 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: we need to do. One of the guys getting in 281 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: keep me up to you know, like there's it's the 282 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: train moves. 283 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, if I would have told you at the 284 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: Green Brier that Joe Flacco and Kareem Hunt would account 285 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: for twenty some touchdowns, my goodness, come on, man, come 286 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: on man, as. 287 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: Long is it long in a play off, you know, 288 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: appearance it was, I would have been like, yeah, but yeah. 289 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: Just just testament though to how you got how you 290 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: had to be at no stone was unturned. Yeah, that's 291 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: that's really the And then I guess the question then 292 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: becomes now as you guys head into this offseason, you 293 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: had the restructure of Denzel. The question now becomes like 294 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: how do you make sure you've had sustained success here? 295 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: But how do you make sure that a season that 296 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: kind of had three seasons to it spring boards you 297 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: forward in an AFC that's unrelenting in terms of the 298 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: talented teams. 299 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was kind of having this conversation earlier, just 300 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: you know, kind of sitting around talking and it's like, 301 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 3: you definitely want to build off of that and make 302 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: it a standard for Cleveland, right, Like I think, like 303 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: I said, Andrew, you talked about stepping back and assessing 304 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: where we are. And our goal isn't just to make 305 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: the playoffs once. It's not even just to make the playoffs, Like, 306 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: we want to push deep into the playoffs and compete 307 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: for for the ultimate goal. So we we have to 308 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: we have to push ourselves, right, You can't be complacent 309 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: and just like, oh, you know, one year, take a breath. 310 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, who are we You know, where do 311 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: we need to improve? You know, what are some things 312 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: we need to enhance? And then you know, how do 313 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: we make sure we can compete in this conference? I 314 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 3: mean it's it's a competitive conference. You know, you look 315 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: at the quarterbacks, honestly, you look at the teams. Yeah, 316 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 3: and there is no no rest for the weary in 317 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: terms of no you know what what we're facing going 318 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: into next season. 319 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 4: So we understand that, and that's why it's. 320 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: Important for us to have a good week here right 321 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: Like this is just doing with what's in front of 322 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: us and have a good week here and make sure 323 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: we're prepared to head in the free agency. 324 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: I think the other thing that was really cool this 325 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: year is you had, like, these are guys that you 326 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: guys have incubated. These are guys you guys have drafted 327 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: that we've watched grow up that went from young players 328 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: to men. You think about I mean, I just think 329 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: about the growth of Miles not just I mean one 330 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: of the best players in the game, but just in 331 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: terms of his personality. Winning Defensive Player of the Year. 332 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: Denzel Ward, a guy who goes back to a Pro Bowl, 333 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: talked about m j Emerson. J Okay, yeah, come on, man, 334 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: like there were some these are homegrown guys. These are 335 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: guys drafted, developed and now blossomed. They really and and 336 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: so I guess from a fan perspective as you'd start 337 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: to go ahead to next year, like all those guys 338 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: are back, man, like the heartbeat of this team, and 339 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: those are just the defensive guys. And so when you 340 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: talk about that standard of this is the Brown standard, 341 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: like they're the ones responsible in large part for what happened. 342 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: True, and also the goal is, uh, you know, to 343 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: continue that, right, Like, so it's to your point, I 344 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: came the year before we drafted Miles and right, and 345 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: then this is what you wanted to happen, right, Like 346 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: you wanted to build around players like him and Lindel 347 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: and create like a baseline for like who we are 348 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: as as the Cleveland Browns. But also like we if 349 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: you look at it, we we did it in every way, right, 350 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: Like we we had impact from people we acquired through 351 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: the draft. We had impact from you know, Dalvin and 352 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: Obo who we signed in the free agents, and then 353 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: z you know that like we you know, we traded 354 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: for z Dustin Hopkins, we traded for you know, we 355 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: signed Shelby and in August, so like from now until August, 356 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: like there's a lot of opportunity if you do what 357 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: you need to do to make your team better, and 358 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: it doesn't always play out that way, right, Like there 359 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: needs to be that match of like you know, opportunity 360 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: resources and everything. But we understand it's not only done 361 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: through one avenue. And we've tried to keep our minds 362 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: open to hey, just our job is to acquire talent, 363 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: do it in the most feasible way, an efficient way 364 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: for the organization to sustain winning. But it's not only 365 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: going to happen to fredency. Like, so we don't need 366 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: to solve quote unquote every you know problem or or 367 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: need in that manner. And so it that that part 368 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: was also cool to see, you know, like we trade 369 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: for Dustin and he comes in, just kicks his butt 370 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: off right crushes it. And then you know, I remember 371 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: talking about it post cutdown and it's just like, look, 372 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: we just know he's gonna you know, we know or 373 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: believe that he's just gonna make kicks, right like so 374 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: like there's you know, everyone has words or whatever, but 375 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: our you know, we had confidence that he would make kicks. 376 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: We had confidence that Shelby would just come in and 377 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: play well. You know, I don't have a crystal wall 378 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: to tell you to play that well, but you know, 379 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 3: like that. That's our job to try to find players 380 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 3: who fit what we do and put them in positions 381 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: to be successful, and those guys perform so well, you've. 382 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: Done a hell of a job at it. 383 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: Good talking to you, buddy, Sam. 384 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: That's our great assistant general manager Glenn Cook joining us 385 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: here from the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Head coach 386 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski's going to join us in about a half 387 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: hour from now. They're abouts. Chris Rose is on the 388 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: program today. Loaded up, kids, absolutely, loaded up, keep it here. 389 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: We're off running Cleveland Brod Daily eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 390 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally bed Now 391 00:17:44,880 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland. 392 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 6: And go here for my team. 393 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: At renew Home Mixsterei is now reducing new ascend composite 394 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: clad siding featuring a beautiful deep green look twenty available 395 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: colors on that you need to keep that just installed 396 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: look for a lifetime with this low maintenance siding. Plus 397 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: with the news price match guarantee, you can be assured 398 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: you received the best price for your exterior project. Even 399 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: after you buy renew Home Exterior superior products and superior service. 400 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: Visit renew estimate dot com. Hello, givee hi as we 401 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: broadcast live over here in Indianapolis. 402 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 5: Coach, I'll be joining us here in twenty minutes or so. Yeah, 403 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 5: I'm trying to get them. He's talking to the media 404 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 5: now and just kind of a look behind the curtitus. 405 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 5: Everybody's like, why do you not why do you not 406 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 5: take the press converce? Yeah, well none of the questions 407 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 5: are miked. No, so there's a player that's talking at 408 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 5: the podium right next to them. Yes, that's just loud 409 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 5: and overpowering. Yeah, so we'll have some cuts from it 410 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 5: a little bit later on. 411 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 2: But it's here's the thing. 412 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 5: I mean, this is a it's a huge convention center, 413 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 5: and you have Dais after Dais, and basically the way 414 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 5: that it works here is like in a normal press 415 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 5: conference setting, it's one press conference, one guy talking and 416 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 5: you pass around a mic or you can hear because 417 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 5: it's in a smaller room. It's an enormous room and 418 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 5: there's a bunch of press conferences happening at the same time. 419 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 5: So yeah, people are just shouting out questions, just yelling. 420 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: It's no good. 421 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 5: You get the you get the coach audio clear, but 422 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 5: you have no idea what he's actually been asked, So 423 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 5: I can tell you. Kevin Stefanski did say he and 424 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 5: Ken Dorsey will fly. We'll visit to Shan Watson and 425 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 5: fly to LA next week. 426 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 6: There you go, there's a. 427 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: Little news in and see check in and see how 428 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: he's going. We had ab yesterday saying, you know, it's 429 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: that the thinking was at the time, the the thinking 430 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: at the time of the injury, and once you knew 431 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: what the surgery was going to be would be that 432 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: he would be throwing. You wanted him throwing by you 433 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: know fully at mini camp like that was the hope 434 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: is that by mini camp he'd be spinning it. So 435 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: that's may. So you've got some time. 436 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 5: Got a few Yeah, I mean that's we've got some 437 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 5: good news at least on that front. So things are progressing, yeah, 438 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 5: very much. 439 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 6: So we have. 440 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: So today is the Yesterday was actually the heavy lifting. 441 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: Most of the teams spoke yesterday. Kevin, there aren't that 442 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: many coaches or gms. There were five talking today, four 443 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: of five of them. Yeah, five of them. So that 444 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: that kind of gives you an idea. Much of the 445 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: news happened yesterday. Today is when the prospects are starting 446 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: to come in. So there were linebackers who were speaking 447 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: this morning. I know, I saw Marvin Harrison walk through 448 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: the building with his dad, which is kind of a 449 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: cool flex. You know, oh, my dad's jerseys and the 450 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: rafters over there, so he walked through, So you get 451 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: a little bit of that. Every all of the players 452 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: are starting to matriculate in their coaches, their agents and 453 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: that type of thing. For us, it's interesting spot. I mean, 454 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: you're not picking until fifty four, correct, So I thought 455 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: that was interesting. How you know how Glenn talked about 456 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 2: Dewan and I thought it was a funny moment where 457 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: he said, look, why didn't you take him at seventy four? 458 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, we could have taken him 459 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: earlier too, So it's not like we knew that it 460 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: would be so we knew we liked him, but how 461 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: much did you know exactly? 462 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 5: And so they're down there, but I need pop bow 463 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 5: up a little bit. There you go, h third, one 464 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 5: one more, one more? You're talking there you go? Here? 465 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: You got it at your jumping that might be a 466 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 2: little hot. Maybe I got you, I got you there 467 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: you go. 468 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 6: We're going back and forth here. Yeah, you're good. 469 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 5: I don't want to I don't want to screw up 470 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 5: the cameras before coach comes. 471 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 6: Well, god forbid. Yeah, quick, can't have that. 472 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: Can't have that. A couple of bits of league news. 473 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: Josh McCown was hired by the Vikings as their new 474 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: quarterback coach. He was with the Panthers in the same 475 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: position last year. Remember he was a big time c J. 476 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 2: Stroud guy. Uh huh and probably sleeps well at night 477 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: knowing that he was. I did feel strongly about that. 478 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: The Chiefs also releasing wide receiver Martees Valdez Scantling, so 479 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: he is released. I saw the Jets allowed for Wilson 480 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: to seek a trade. That happened Joe Douglas just talked 481 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: about a half hour ago. Yeah, go ahead, seek it. Trade. 482 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: Good luck. 483 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 5: I hope quite sure what you're getting back. We could 484 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 5: sort those things out. Happy at thirtieth birthday, Alan Thomlins 485 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 5: in thirty today, how about that? 486 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 6: There we go, man. 487 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 2: Did you see speaking of Duan Jones, you see him 488 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: last night after the Strews three to win the game. No, 489 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 2: he's in a Joe Thomas Jersey. He was celebrating the win. 490 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: It was pretty great. 491 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. I know ed Cole Emerson was their 492 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 5: court side. I think a lot of our cats were 493 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 5: in the mix. And yeah, but I did see Duan 494 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 5: there celebrating it. And he was a hell of a 495 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: basketball player right here in Indy. Very good basketball player. 496 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: Now are you aware that Griff and I birded home 497 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: last night after dinner? 498 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 5: I thought it might be the last time I see 499 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 5: either one of you. Two. Well, you said good night, 500 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 5: We're gonna go bird home. He kill about it and 501 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 5: enjoy your best life. He was excited about it. 502 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: It was a long bird ride because we were all 503 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: the way on the other side of the basketball arena 504 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: for hotels, clear at the other end of downtown. So 505 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: it was a it's a long bird and I made 506 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: the executive decision rather quickly, probably I don't know, forty 507 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: percent of the way into the voyage that my bird 508 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: was not up to speed. That the top speed on 509 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: my bird was eight nine miles an hour at best. 510 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: And this is just not going to cut it when 511 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: you're trying to survive the mean streets of Indianapolis on 512 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: a on a Tuesday. So I upgraded my bird. Griff 513 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 2: did not upgrade his bird, So I shut my ride down, 514 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: started another one, and then caught him later. And then 515 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: as we approached the hotel, now it's like you're in 516 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: lanes that are turning. It says, don't ride on the sidewalk. 517 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to break laws. I want to be 518 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: someone who had heares. But at the same time, it's 519 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: it's real life, Frogger. 520 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 6: Things get a little dicey near our hotel. 521 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's I'm not in a helmet, and I'm 522 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: going twenty miles an hour and there's cars whizzing by, 523 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 2: and I see Griff off to the left, and I'm like, 524 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: I got to make a go for it. 525 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 5: Here, winds are picking up. Help you Lether's way there 526 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 5: was getting dim in the wind was blowing through. Yeah, 527 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 5: I mean it's it was a lot going on. 528 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: So I get I get through, and I believe Griff 529 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: and the dust not because of a lack of love, 530 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: but rather just because it was functionality. I get there 531 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: and then I go, well, I want to make sure 532 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: he's okay. So I start walking around the corner and 533 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: I don't see him. Now he claims he went right 534 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: to the hotel. That's what he claims, But I didn't 535 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: see him. 536 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 6: Did he go a different way because there's two ways around? 537 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: Did you go around or did you just come right 538 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: straight down the one way? 539 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 4: Oh? 540 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 6: You went back around? 541 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: You at the wall, that's what you did. You got 542 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: in the turn lane. So I thought I saw you 543 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 2: going to the j dub and you were going to 544 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: go be a little bit of a lounge lizard instead 545 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: down and around. That's why I missed you because I 546 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 2: thought he vaporized. Now, I wasn't that worried about It's all. 547 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: I tried to call him or anything. I felt like 548 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: you'd be okay. 549 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 5: I never got a text, so I felt like everybody 550 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 5: was good and live. 551 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, we thrived. We thrived, and then we 552 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: had a spit. From what I understand, there was you 553 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: you you ordered, You were in the there's an order. 554 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: So he was. 555 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 6: The guy next to him who had a stomach ache 556 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 6: during Was he in the mix too? Uh? 557 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 5: Oh? From a different location. 558 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: Griff door dashed a milkshake. 559 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 5: Oh, I heard he told me this morning, and I 560 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 5: literally stopped my breakfast from tell. 561 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: Me, where where's it from? 562 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 6: You? 563 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: You door Dash? Was it fifteen bucks, nine bucks. I've 564 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: never heard of anybody door dashing a milkshake to a hotel. 565 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: I couldn't love him more. 566 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 5: What kind. 567 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: Chocolate milkshake? That's ice cream, milk, chocolate. Nine dollars nine bucks. 568 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: Guy brought it to him like he's Jerry. 569 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 5: You're paying for the service. 570 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: He's like Jerry Jones at the bus. Give me what 571 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: I need from Steak and Shake when I need it. 572 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 6: That's the way it goes. 573 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, people, there, there's been a number of door dashing 574 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 5: orders placed out of our department here this week. What's 575 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 5: going on? 576 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 2: It's all the Browns expense sheet. 577 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 5: Hey, Ricky, I've got something coming in. Just blow through 578 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 5: those doors, go right underneath the underneath the window. 579 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: Those are your hot topics today, presented by Vivid Seats, 580 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: official fan experienced partner of your Cleveland Browns. Oh what 581 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: other thing? 582 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 6: Don't? We might as well just hold you want to hang? 583 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: We got some Maybe you tell me what to do 584 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: because you got Chris Simms coming. I know, what do 585 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: we want to do? How do you want to manage this? 586 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 2: I feel like let's produce the show live on the air. 587 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 5: What do you want to do? Do you want to. 588 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 5: It's coach coming to think so he's still talking right now. 589 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: So I think you got a lot of time. Then 590 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: My guess is Coach will join us around two, is 591 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: what I'm thinking. But you're going to do a local 592 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: gaggle too, though. Yeah, that hasn't taken place, and that's 593 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: going to least that's taking place yet. You got boots 594 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: on the ground over there. What's you know doing? 595 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 5: Kevin Stefanski said he hasn't decided if here Ken Dorsey 596 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 5: will call plays. I mean, that's no news, right, it's not. 597 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on with doing now. 598 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: He's got to be were there. That kid's excitability is infectious. 599 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: Who knows, he's real jacked up. He's got to be 600 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: over there. I think they're going to Are you and 601 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: Griff going to Butler tonight? Are you going to Hinkle 602 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: You're going to Yeah, Faist two are going to hinkle 603 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: Field House? We had we went last year, Yeah, Marquette 604 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: it was yeah, it's it's awesome if yeah, that's I 605 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: bang on this place a lot. But man, from a 606 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: ease of use the fact that there are an ease 607 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: of use in terms of getting your work done, the 608 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: fact that there are a great many, really nice restaurants 609 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: all down here that you can get into without much trouble. 610 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: I mean, like it already talks about Elmo's, but there's 611 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: a lot of great restaurants. 612 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 5: There's a lot of new ones over by. We thought, 613 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 5: how many do we walk by last night in the 614 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 5: new Arena district. Yeah, we can break He just finished, Okay, 615 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: so we could time this out perfectly. So we'll time 616 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 5: this out perfectly. So Chris Simms will be next. Chris Simms. 617 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: That's how this is going to get I should also 618 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 2: tell you don't miss Billy Joe and Rod Stewart. I'm 619 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 2: not sure if you've heard this. I don't when the 620 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: first time ever. It's September thirteenth, It's on a Friday. 621 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: It's at Cleveland brown Stadium. Tickets are on still now. 622 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: Visit Cleveland Browns Stadium dot com slash Billy and Rod 623 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four for more information. It's Billy, Joel and 624 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: Rod start together for one night only. Chris Simms with 625 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: Z coming up next to list to Cleveland Browns Daily 626 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: on eight fifty ESPNS. 627 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily front to you by balley bet 628 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: now live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 629 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 7: What it is the highlight of the combine every year 630 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 7: Gibbe finally has wrangled in the great Chris Simms. That's right, 631 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 7: and we get a chance acted it. So, first of all, 632 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 7: how are you doing? 633 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: Man? 634 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 6: Great to see I'm great. I'm doing good. 635 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: You know. 636 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 6: Just it's like I'm changing gears. Right. 637 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 8: I went from NFL evaluating you know, the season, the teams, 638 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 8: all that, the super Bowl, and now I'm like, okay, 639 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 8: now I got you know, three four hundred players. I 640 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 8: gotta start to watch on film and start diving into that. 641 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 8: So a little stressful, but cool. Always good to be 642 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 8: here and start this process. 643 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 6: Is it fun? 644 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 7: Kind of you've seen how this has grown just to 645 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 7: become this media kind of massive event for the National 646 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 7: Football League. 647 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 6: Definitely. I mean, what's what makes the NFL the king is? 648 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 8: You know, we dominate, you know, weeks like this where 649 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 8: it's like we're not even playing and like it's still 650 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 8: the number one thing in American sports, right and from 651 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 8: where it's gone from even my days of playing in 652 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 8: the early two thousands, it's in a different stratosphere. 653 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 6: The media coverage now. 654 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 8: I mean I was running the forty wasn't on TV 655 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 8: at the NFL Combine, nothing like that was going on. 656 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 4: I wish it was. 657 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 8: It should have been like seventy five different cameras just 658 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 8: on the one race, let alone all the other cameras. 659 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 8: So yeah, it has grown, but I think it's pretty 660 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 8: you know, it shows what this sport is in our 661 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 8: country right now. 662 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 7: Another incredible season from the National Football League. You get 663 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 7: Mahomes getting it done again, and now you got to 664 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 7: start thinking about where he is historically right win in 665 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 7: three already. 666 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 6: What'd you take away from that season? 667 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 7: And the Chiefs who have kind of shifted into a 668 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 7: new style team and still getting it done. 669 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 8: The Chiefs kind of switched into like Patriot mode this year. 670 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 6: We're just gonna win the game. 671 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 8: We don't really care how but look if we have 672 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 8: to win ten three, if we have to win seventeen fourteen, 673 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 8: so well, we'll win the game. 674 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 6: They weren't always like that, you know. 675 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 8: They were always like, no, we're still gonna throw at 676 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 8: every play and four hundred yards throwing no matter what, 677 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 8: even if you don't play defensive lineman, We're still gonna 678 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 8: throw at every play right. And to me that was 679 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 8: interesting because it felt Brady and Patriot like this year, like, 680 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 8: oh they got I've never seen a team play B 681 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 8: minus football all regular season and then get to January 682 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 8: and go, we're gonna play a super Bowl level. Now, 683 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 8: that's very rare. They're special. But it was a great year, 684 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 8: it really was. It was a year where there was 685 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 8: no it never felt like there was sustained greatness from anybody. 686 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 8: We had the Niners for a chunk of time, then 687 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 8: the Ravens knocked them off their pedestal, but then the 688 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 8: end of the season came and that wasn't a long 689 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 8: extended time either. 690 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 6: So it was a little weird that way. 691 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 8: And you know, everybody let the Chiefs hang around and 692 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 8: they kept getting better and better. And like you talked 693 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 8: to at that quarterback, I mean, come on, that quarterback 694 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 8: is already one of the all time greats. He's one 695 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 8: of the three or four best quarterbacks in the history 696 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 8: of football already. 697 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 6: There's no doubt about that. 698 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 8: What he's done, what he's been expected to do from 699 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 8: day one in the NFL, nobody has ever had to 700 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 8: do that. Maybe Dan Marino, right, you know, but even 701 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 8: Tom Brady was defense, run the ball, manage the game. 702 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 6: For the first three Super Bowls, they. 703 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 8: Literally were like, go out there and carry the team 704 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 8: from the start. And that's where it's a little different 705 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 8: than most of them. 706 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 7: You know, I grew up in the Bay Area big 707 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 7: Niners fan. I know you and I both share an 708 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 7: affinity for Kyle. It just was so hard watching because 709 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 7: when they got the ball back down three, it just 710 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 7: felt inevitable, like you knew Mahomes was going to do it, 711 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 7: and then he did it. 712 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's why, you know, the Chris Drones pressure on 713 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 8: the goal line on third down was so huge because 714 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 8: you just felt like, oh, man, field goal. I don't 715 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 8: know if field goal is gonna get it done in 716 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 8: this moment right right, you know, you want to touchdown 717 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 8: and maybe make them force the two point conversion and 718 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 8: see if he can win the ball that game that way. 719 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 6: It's tough decision, it really is. You know it is. 720 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 8: The analytics were in the world of analytics, and it 721 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 8: says it's fifty to fifty. But yet my buddy Shanahan's 722 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 8: getting crucified for something that the analytics say is right 723 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 8: down the line. Now, I think, hey, you do have 724 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 8: to take into account who the quarterback is on the 725 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 8: other side. The other thing I think people miss too 726 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 8: is just that you know, it was a field goal game, right, 727 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 8: so he's thinking, hey, third possession, I kicked the field goal, 728 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 8: we win the game in the overtime. And his defense 729 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 8: was just on the field for eleven plays and in 730 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 8: a minute fifty seconds. 731 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 6: So they just did a CrossFit class. 732 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 8: And I think that's hard to just go, hey, defense, 733 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 8: go out there again and stop Mahomes. 734 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 6: No problem. 735 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 8: That was, you know, a very tough decision, and I 736 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 8: feel for them. They outplayed the Chiefs. But that's what's 737 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 8: crazy about the Chiefs. There the ultimate get a done team. 738 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 8: And I feel like they've won three Super Bowls with 739 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 8: probably being the lesser team on the field and all 740 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 8: three but they find a way to get it done. 741 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 8: And that's the grid of Mahomes and of course Andy Reid, 742 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 8: who really instills it all no doubt. 743 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 7: And now the great part about everybody here is it's 744 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 7: all begins anew right back to zero and zero. Everybody 745 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 7: on the same foot. Now, I notice right for we 746 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 7: got a chance to talk to you. You had the 747 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 7: Bears general manager Ryan Poles, and it feels like they're 748 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 7: kind of holding the keys to really how this offseason 749 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 7: is going to unfold with the Justin Fields trade potential 750 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 7: Caleb Williams, did he give you anything in your interview? 751 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 8: No, but I'll be shocked if they don't draft Kyle 752 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 8: Caleb Williams at this point, changing the offensive coordinator. Here's 753 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 8: my biggest thing that I've been kind of saying for 754 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 8: a number of weeks. Where did Ryan Pols come from 755 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 8: Kansas City? He saw them draft a guy that Here's 756 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 8: a guy that's got a lot of the same skill 757 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 8: set as Mahomes seems maybe not as big as Mahomes is, 758 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 8: but everything else is very similar. I haven't deep dived 759 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 8: the quarterbacks yet. I have a little feel from them 760 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 8: watching them on film, but not like I'm not ready 761 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 8: to make rankings, but I expected to go there. 762 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 6: They made an offensive. 763 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 8: Coordinator change, right, I feel like GM's usually don't want 764 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 8: to get fired or go down with Wait, I didn't 765 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 8: even pick this quarterback, right, So all those things and 766 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 8: in my early look of the quarterback class, Caleb Williams 767 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 8: kind of looks like they're separation from him compared to 768 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 8: everybody else. 769 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 6: All Right, So that's a little spoiler for what's coming 770 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 6: your way here with the bear. 771 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 8: Making me feel like it's not as fun this year 772 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 8: because it's like it it feels like, you know, I 773 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 8: watched about fifty to eighty throws on all the good 774 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 8: players this weekend, right, the quarterbacks, the top tier ones, 775 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 8: and I kind of came away going, I don't know, 776 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 8: I think there's one guy, then there's a little bit 777 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 8: of a drop and we'll see where that goes. You know, 778 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 8: I thought that last year too. I had c CJ. 779 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 8: Stroud and a tier all by himself, right, But not 780 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 8: everybody agreed with me this one. It seems like I 781 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 8: think everybody's kind of in consensus here with this one. 782 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 7: The other thing was, it kind of felt like what 783 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 7: had happened with Ohio State quarterbacks previously was being held 784 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 7: against C. J. 785 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 8: Stroud, Like, what's the coaches from thirty years ago? 786 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 6: They have nothing to do and that quarterback do? Like, 787 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 6: who the hell cares? What does that mean? Stop doing that? 788 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 8: Just because they went to the same school does not 789 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 8: mean it's the same person the same way they were coached. 790 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of things that go into that. 791 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 6: I know, it's a little ridiculous. 792 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 7: I personally would have been happier if C. J. Stradd 793 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 7: was in Carolina instead of in Houston. We had to 794 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 7: deal with him obviously in the playoffs. But Brown season 795 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 7: kind of a magical season to go eleven and six, 796 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 7: five different quarterbacks for four backs won a game for 797 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 7: the Cleveland Browns. From AFAR watching in Kevin Stefancy obviously 798 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 7: got Coach of the Year for the second time in 799 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 7: four years. What did you kind of make of this 800 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 7: kind of wild Brown season? 801 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 8: I mean, awesome really in a lot of ways, right, 802 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 8: I know, it didn't end the right way, and it 803 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 8: was you know, that was a team with that quarterback 804 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 8: and as aggressive as you guys play, it was one 805 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 8: of the tougher matchups I think you would have saw 806 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 8: in all the AFC playoffs because then every weren't afraid 807 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 8: to chuck a deep and take those chances because he's 808 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 8: so awesome that way. But how could you not be 809 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 8: in I have a man crush on the Browns defense. 810 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 8: I mean the whole year, if you listen to me 811 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 8: on Football Night in America, my podcast, whatever, I was 812 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 8: just like, oh my gosh, this defense. 813 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 6: Now, were they a little aggressive? At times. 814 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 8: Yes, that was one thing. If you saw me on 815 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 8: Football Night in America all the time, I was like, 816 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 8: rein it in a little just we don't have to 817 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 8: go for the kill every play. But man, Jim Schwartz, 818 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 8: what he did phenomenal. Stefanski, you know, the balancing still 819 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 8: of the Deshaun Watson aspect and the injuries you had 820 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 8: on offense and all that, How could you not just talk. 821 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 6: You know, high praise about what he did. 822 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 8: So yeah, I'm you know, as a football guy, I'm 823 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 8: super excited where the Browns are as a team. I 824 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 8: think you'll be right back in the mix of where 825 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 8: you were last year. And of course you had the 826 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 8: Flacco thing. Was was magical at the end. It was 827 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 8: a great story. But I had the same thing with 828 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 8: him where I was going, will they just rein him 829 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 8: in a little bit? 830 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 6: Right? 831 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 8: It scared me, And of course it all came to 832 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 8: fruition there on that Saturday afternoon in Houston. 833 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 5: It certainly did. 834 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 7: You mentioned to Sean Watson, and the last time we 835 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 7: saw him, he played a flawless fourth quarter, didn't thrown 836 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 7: in completion, ran led them back from down double digits 837 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 7: in Baltimore, that's like why he was brought here, and 838 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 7: then you're feeling maybe we can go to the super Bowl, 839 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 7: and then by Wednesday he's out for the season. 840 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 6: What did you see from him? 841 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 4: Though? 842 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 7: That gives you encouragement as a Browns fan, you know, 843 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 7: going into this year. 844 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,959 Speaker 8: I feel like he got finally comfortable again. That would 845 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 8: be the biggest thing, you know. I know he's got 846 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 8: the physical ability still right, the arms still there, you know, 847 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 8: fearless in the pocket, all that, no concerns there. To me, 848 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 8: it was kind of the things we talked about last year. 849 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 8: Just haven't played in a while. I don't care who 850 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 8: you are. It ain't easy just to jump in there 851 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 8: and go, hey, I'm the man again, right, And it 852 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 8: just feels like every time I felt like, oh, here 853 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 8: he goes. 854 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 6: Oh he hurts his shoulder in Indianapolis, Oh here it 855 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 6: goes watch out Ford Cleveland. 856 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 8: And then he gets hurt in Baltimore. So that's the 857 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 8: unfortunate thing. That's where I feel for him. But it 858 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 8: did look like he turned the corner of Wait, I'm 859 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 8: starting to feel like myself again and I can make 860 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 8: some plays and do that type of stuff. 861 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 6: So hopefully he can. 862 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 8: Grow on that he gets healthy here and gets a 863 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 8: full off season under his belt. 864 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 7: I can tell you when you know in the Baltimore 865 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 7: the setup is there's a very narrow walkway to come 866 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 7: down to get to the buses when you're going out 867 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 7: to the team buses. And I was out there and 868 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 7: that's exactly what say's like. 869 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 5: I'm me again. 870 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 7: And then on Wednesday he was gone for the year. 871 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 6: But he'll be back. 872 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 7: And the Browns, I feel like, are doing some things 873 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 7: that are clearly DeShawn focus. Bringing in Ken Dorsey with 874 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 7: his background. What do you think that means for the 875 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 7: Browns office. 876 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 8: I just think it adds more to the versatility of 877 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 8: the offense overall. I mean, we know stefanskis still gonna 878 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 8: have his imprint and things that he does within the offense, 879 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 8: but now, hey, some new ideas in the building, some 880 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 8: new plays, some new looks, things like that. That to 881 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 8: me is the thing that you know, I would be 882 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 8: excited about Ken Dorsey. 883 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 6: And then I think on top of that. 884 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 8: Watson's got a lot of Josh Allen qualities. Can run, throw, 885 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 8: throw in the run, extend plays, do all that stuff. 886 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 8: Strong Arm the field is you know, endless as far 887 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 8: as where his arm can reach. 888 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 6: So I think there's a guy there that's played. 889 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 8: With a guy like that and goes, wait, I could 890 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 8: do this play with this guy. I can do that play. 891 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 8: And I think that's where it's gonna be, you know, 892 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 8: beneficial for the whole football team. I think it'll be 893 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 8: even beneficial for Stefanski because he's like, oh, wait, that's 894 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 8: how you did this. Oh you do it like that. 895 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 8: That's cool And to me, that's what a lot of. 896 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 6: Great coaches do. 897 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's gonna be fun to see kind 898 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 7: of the evolution of this Browns offense gets you out 899 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 7: of here on this one. 900 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 6: AFC North. 901 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 7: It would be nice for the Browns if they could 902 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 7: just have a nice time in their Divisionnick that other 903 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 7: teams could be maybe in their rebuilding phase. No Ravens elite, 904 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 7: the Bengals earlit, Steelers are still dangerous. What do you 905 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 7: make of this division? 906 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 8: Well, it's brutal, it is, it's super talented, and you know, 907 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 8: I have no doubt that you guys, the Bengals and 908 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 8: the Ravens will be back in the mix. The Steelers, 909 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 8: I'm not ready to say that, you know, like you said, 910 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 8: they're tough, they're gritty, they're Tomlin knows how to manage games. 911 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 6: They're pain in the butt. 912 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 8: But I don't think that their talent level is up 913 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 8: there with the three that we just previously mentioned. Man, 914 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 8: the AFC in general is brutal. I mean it's as 915 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 8: good as I've ever seen. So, yeah, you get your 916 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 8: hands full, and that's why, you know, get healthy. Run 917 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 8: the ball that d Deshaun gets back going like we 918 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 8: know he can get gone. I'd say watch out for Cleveland. 919 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 5: Chris, thank you for the time any time. 920 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: All Right, that's Z with Chris Simms and a NBC 921 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 2: Sports NFL Network hoast. Of course, Kevin Stefansi is going 922 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: to join us coming up next. Before we do that, though, 923 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: I should remind you to part of the one of 924 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 2: the most passionate fan bases in the NFL, Join Next 925 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 2: Gen STM, presented by ticket Master, the official waitlist of 926 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. Being in Next Gen STM is the 927 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 2: best chance to become a season ticket member in future seasons? 928 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 5: Is it? 929 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns dot com slash next Gen st to reserve 930 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 2: your spot today. Head coach Kevin Stefan's is going to 931 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: join the program coming up next to listen to Clear 932 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 2: the Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bet, sportspinning 933 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 2: partner your Cleveland Browns Now Live in Ohio on eight 934 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland. 935 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bet Now 936 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 937 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily here on 938 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: a first Friday edition of the program, broadcasting live over 939 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 2: at the NFL Scouting Combine in India, Annapolis. Big Time, 940 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 2: second hour of the program for you. The Great Chris 941 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 2: Rose will join us on the program. Jason Reid as 942 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,959 Speaker 2: well will join us of ESPN on the NFL Draft 943 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 2: side of his things, starting in some of the perspective 944 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 2: prospects the Browns could be eyeing in that second round, 945 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: you know, the positions of need perhaps receiver, perhaps running back, 946 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: perhaps interior of defensive line, linebacker. Get a look at 947 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: some of the guys who could be there at fifty 948 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 2: four by the time the Browns pick, and perhaps some 949 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 2: who could fall. Well, wait, we're waiting on coach. He 950 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 2: did his vailability and then he vaporized. He did he 951 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 2: does availability with the with the media, and then he 952 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: had his breakout session with the local media. Touched on 953 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 2: a lot of the same things that Andrew had touched 954 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 2: on in terms of the Greenbrier and the update on 955 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: to Sean Watson, it sounds like him and Kendris, you're 956 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 2: going to go there next week and visit with DeShawn 957 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: out in Los Angeles, get kind of a progress report 958 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 2: on where all of that stands. Well, at least who 959 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: knows here? 960 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 5: Where's coach? 961 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 6: He didn't know? 962 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 2: Where'd he go? Did you watch? Was he in frame 963 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 2: of your site? Did he disappear like that? Just papered? 964 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 5: Fela's looking No, no, no, no, no. 965 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: You ought to be able to just just give him. 966 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 2: He's gone. He's gone, is gone? 967 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 5: Felis text team, you know, I send Felix. 968 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 2: Fela's going to do a little investigative reporting. 969 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. 970 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 5: I Fela knows where he went. 971 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 2: The man has gone. He was meeting with the assembled 972 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 2: media and then gone, he went that way. 973 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 5: Oh he's on with CBS right now. 974 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 2: Oh there you go. 975 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 5: Well it'd have been nice. That's very good, crushing the communication. 976 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 2: That's solid. 977 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 4: That's solid. 978 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 5: We got we got that going for us. 979 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: Well, there you go, Oh my god, how many years 980 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: I done this? 981 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 5: I don't know, this is it. I hope you enjoy this. 982 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 5: I hope you enjoy the letter. Say I can't believe 983 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 5: again you come back. No, no, you always come back 984 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 5: for more. 985 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 2: But the only reason I'm coming back is if somehow 986 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 2: he comes back and he and I get to do 987 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 2: it some sort of bird reunion. Otherwise, no chance, no chance. 988 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 2: I've seen enough, brother, all right, so he's coach will 989 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 2: join us at some point. I know that Chris Rose 990 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 2: joints because I see Chris right there. Chris is right there. Yeah, 991 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 2: so I know he's coming. I know that for fact. 992 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 5: But I don't want to short change Chris. I want 993 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 5: to big change, Chris, big change. 994 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 6: I want all of see Chris and I got smart. 995 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 5: Last night Chris and I left the One Establishment, and 996 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 5: then all hell broke loose weather wise, and I was 997 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,919 Speaker 5: already in my room and Chris was in his room, 998 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 5: and people that were at the establishment we were at had 999 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 5: to wait almost ninety minutes to get out because of 1000 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 5: the weather. 1001 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 2: It was legitimate, we had we had a weather issue. 1002 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 2: There were there was a tornado that touched down near 1003 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: Columbus real this morning. Yeah, like five am, there were 1004 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 2: tornado sirens all over Central Ohio. I heard the pummeling 1005 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 2: on the window that I was jostled in the middle 1006 00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 2: of the night by that. 1007 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 5: See I got the app on the phone yea too. 1008 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 2: So it takes a lot to Yeah, it takes a 1009 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 2: lot to be able to for that to happen. But 1010 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 2: my window was west facing, so it was a little different. 1011 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 2: It was a it was a direct hit man, to 1012 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: say the least. But yeah, like that was crazy through here. 1013 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: And we went from they're going to go from in 1014 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 2: the sixties to the thirties in twelve hours, you know, because. 1015 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 5: The night before was in the same I mean we 1016 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 5: woke up this morning it was thirty two degrees. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1017 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 5: and that's what's coming back home. Yeah as well. So 1018 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 5: coach touched on still no decision on Ken Dorsey correct. 1019 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 5: Coach touched on uh, he and Ken are headed out 1020 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 5: to De Sean next week to get a little status report, 1021 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 5: check in on him, visit with him, have those conversations 1022 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 5: so you get that. He spoke and Andrew talked about 1023 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 5: the Greenbrier a little bit about the need to come 1024 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 5: back if when we get him what I am. What 1025 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 5: I want to talk to him about, because we haven't 1026 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 5: had him on this show since the season ended, is 1027 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,959 Speaker 5: this is a guy who in the moment thinks about 1028 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 5: the next minute. I'm curious now that he's had some 1029 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 5: distance from the season if he can give some perspective 1030 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 5: on one that had you know, four award winners, including 1031 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 5: himself winning Coach of the Year for the second time, 1032 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 5: and and how exactly they were. 1033 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 2: Able to do that. Now, he's not going to give 1034 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 2: take a lot of credit for himself because that's not 1035 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,919 Speaker 2: how he goes, but he's going to have to. He's 1036 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 2: got some of it for keeping this thing together. And 1037 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,959 Speaker 2: it was interesting when we had Glenn On just talking 1038 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 2: about the the idea of like there's no time, no, 1039 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: there's no time, like you just Sunday's coming. You got 1040 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 2: to get going. But now you have had a little 1041 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 2: time and to try to put perspective on an eleven 1042 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 2: win season that had five quarterbacks and playing your fourth 1043 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: and fifth tackles and all of those things that occurred 1044 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 2: this season, and it was it was a it was 1045 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 2: a wild ride. And then the next thing you got 1046 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 2: to do is you got to make sure that like 1047 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 2: that that's now the standard that I mean, this is 1048 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: something and you know, I know it's it's Pittspuke and 1049 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: it's the Squealers and it's all of that. But they 1050 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 2: do that every year. Yeah, regardless of what happens around them, 1051 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 2: they do that. That's so that's their standard, is a 1052 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 2: winning season and they do it every year. And so 1053 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 2: you want to be have that be the floor. Now 1054 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 2: that that winning seasons of the floor, and then you 1055 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 2: chase championships in the midst of all of that. And 1056 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 2: so that's what you're trying to do there. That's a 1057 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 2: true organizational success and that's what you're striving for. 1058 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, and you're working on the other 1059 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 5: small little details, Yeah, I mean that aren't small. You know, 1060 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 5: he announced we're working on a new weight room. That's 1061 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 5: one area we want to get a lot better in him. 1062 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 2: Well, and some of that was they I mean, because 1063 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 2: well some of that was the was that. 1064 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 5: The COVID where we had to move the weight room, 1065 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 5: so we had to move the weight room outside into 1066 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,959 Speaker 5: the fieldhouse in the field house, So our seventy yard 1067 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 5: field house is now a fifty yard field house, right, 1068 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 5: not ideal, not ideal, and I think, you know, they 1069 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 5: took some they took some blueprint ideas from when we 1070 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 5: were at UCLA. Yeah, and I think that's what you'll 1071 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 5: see from a weight room update, you know that put 1072 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 5: the money in like that, that's part of your off 1073 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 5: season program to get guys ready. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 1074 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 5: so that'll be that'll be some of the things that 1075 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 5: that will that will happen here. And it's this is 1076 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 5: a this is a component of their offseason. And by 1077 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 5: the way, like it's our coach still comes not all due. Yeah, 1078 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 5: you know, Kyle Shanahan's out here, Sean mcvabe five or six, yeah, yeah, 1079 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 5: or we're sitting it out, so they're they're sitting this 1080 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 5: thing out and and you'll have all the front office 1081 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 5: guys here. But in terms of of coaches, it's not 1082 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 5: necessarily a must anymore in terms of coming over here. 1083 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 5: So but Kevin has always had such a hand and 1084 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 5: in everything that happens day to day. I can't imagine 1085 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 5: him not being involved in this. So hopefully we'll get 1086 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 5: a chance to talk to him here in the in 1087 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 5: the second hour of the program. We help well and 1088 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 5: well he is with CBS. I've been told we are next, 1089 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 5: So like next, next, next, next, like it? But is 1090 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 5: it next on this show? I think it's next on 1091 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 5: this show. I think maybe you heard it from the 1092 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 5: from I mean from the mouth of Gibbe. If you 1093 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 5: manage your expectations, you can't be disappointed. 1094 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 2: I know, I won't. You put Chris on. I know 1095 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 2: we're not gonna be disappointed. I'm aware he's sitting. Well, 1096 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 2: you had the time of our lives, you know, looking 1097 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,479 Speaker 2: back and Rose, I'm sorry all the fun things. 1098 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 5: Don't worry. You're up. You're up after coach, no offense. 1099 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 2: That's where he was slotted. He's dean. It's just all 1100 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 2: the rest of it went to hell, Gibby. 1101 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 6: That's it. 1102 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 5: It takes one little thing like we had it timed 1103 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 5: out perfectly. The Sims interview, Yeah, great, wrapped up, went 1104 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 5: to break. The coach was wrapping up in local media. 1105 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 5: Then he disappears an the other side of. 1106 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 2: The Now we're on CBS, so that's when he could 1107 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 2: get pinched again. It's in play on the way over. 1108 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 2: What if somebody, what if there's a grabbing I don't know. 1109 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 2: You know, you've got a very very powerful beat that 1110 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 2: at any point might need two or three more follow 1111 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 2: up questions. So it's all in play. We'll see, it's 1112 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: all going to be the adventure kids. We encourage you 1113 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 2: to stick around. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on 1114 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 2: eight fifty YESP and Cleveland. 1115 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,959 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily to you buy Balley Bed now Live 1116 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: in Ohio on eight fifty ESP and Cleveland. 1117 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 2: And for a team of injury lawyers that cared to 1118 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 2: every client every day called one hundred elk Ohio Elkinox, 1119 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 2: proud partner of your Cleveland Brown's broadcasting live at the 1120 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,359 Speaker 2: Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, the Great Chris Rose joining me here. 1121 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,240 Speaker 2: Good to see you, buddy. 1122 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 9: Where's the other guy? What'd you do with him? Did 1123 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 9: you chase him out of it? 1124 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 2: I asked for a guy in a beard who is 1125 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 2: devilishly handsome, and look. 1126 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 6: What I got to say? Where's Stefanski raising around the corner? 1127 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:30,359 Speaker 6: Can we get him? 1128 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1129 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 9: We had I swear we had come here in ninety seconds. 1130 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 2: I don't think. So we sent some of our I 1131 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 2: was going to say, some of our best, some of 1132 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 2: our medium people after it, and we didn't get much 1133 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 2: rated for best the medium. Yeah, very very middle what happens. 1134 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 2: It was a middling week. We were trying to and 1135 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 2: trending down no idea. Sorry, So how many how many 1136 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 2: hours are going to broadcast over here on the NFL network. 1137 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 9: We're going to start at three o'clock local time on 1138 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 9: Thursday and we'll finish it up probably five o'clock on Sunday, 1139 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 9: So without any breaks, we're going, like, if you want 1140 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 9: to turn an NFL network on at two am, we'll 1141 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 9: probably they'll be. 1142 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 2: There straight through. How much are you personally anchoring? 1143 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 9: So I am on the on the like the Alito 1144 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 9: deck of our of our cruise ship. Rich and Daniel 1145 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 9: Jeremiah are actually calling it from the booth. Yep, that 1146 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 9: was a move they made a few years ago. I 1147 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 9: forget where they were. There was another desk then, but 1148 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 9: they finally went to the booth a bunch of years 1149 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 9: ago when Mayock was still doing it. Yeah, and it 1150 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 9: was genius, like call it like it's a sporting event 1151 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 9: and that's what it is. And so I'm down on 1152 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 9: the desk with Charles Davis and Peter Schrager and we 1153 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 9: have a ton of fun. We just you know, we 1154 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 9: kind of fill in between the events, you know, the 1155 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 9: in between the position groups as well, and so we 1156 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 9: had our two cents here and there. Charles knows a 1157 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 9: ton of what's going on, obviously between the college game 1158 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 9: and the NFL, since he's calling NFL games and knows 1159 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 9: what teams need. Peter Schrager so well connected with gms 1160 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 9: and coaches throughout the league, and he'll sprinkle that stuff in. 1161 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 2: Do you and I were talking off air, do you 1162 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 2: ever not marvel at Daniel's encyclopedic knowledge of every human 1163 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 2: being in a tank top and shorts. 1164 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 9: It's incredible. I mean that stuff starts pretty much when 1165 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 9: we're done with the draft, Like he gets going, he'll 1166 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 9: take a few weeks off in May and start cranking 1167 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 9: on the next group of people. And he is a machine. 1168 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 9: He loves it. I am pleasantly surprised that some team 1169 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 9: has not scooped him up to lead their personnel department. 1170 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 9: But I think, you know, he's got four kids, and 1171 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 9: I think he likes where he lives in San Diego, 1172 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 9: so it would take an awful lot to pull him 1173 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 9: away from that. And he is just so good at this. 1174 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 9: He the thing he does so well that I'm so 1175 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 9: proud of is that He explains it so that every 1176 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 9: fan can understand it, and like that's the fun part 1177 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,720 Speaker 9: of the combine. We get it that you're not tuned 1178 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,720 Speaker 9: into breaking all twenty hours or whatever we're covering this weekend. 1179 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 9: We know you're in and out or you're checking out 1180 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,399 Speaker 9: a position group. Like if you're a brownstan you're gonna 1181 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 9: want to watch Thursday because of the defensive lineman, because 1182 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 9: of the number of vacancies we have there. Obviously you're 1183 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 9: gonna want to check in on Saturday. The quarterbacks, receivers, 1184 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 9: running backs, we know why they're and go pick out 1185 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 9: a few guys, like I have a few guys for you, 1186 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 9: by the way, Yeah, Javon Baker is a guy on 1187 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 9: Saturday that I would watch. He's a kid, I believe 1188 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 9: out of Central Florida, like six one and a half. 1189 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 9: He's kind of in between. He's kind of a Mari 1190 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 9: Cooper size ish. Yeah, he doesn't feel as physically imposing 1191 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 9: as Cedric Tillman. Does a little bit different to maybe 1192 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 9: round out that receiver room. Malachi Corley is a real 1193 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 9: interesting kid from Western Kentucky. He's a little smaller, he's 1194 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 9: not he's not quite six feet but super productive. In fact, 1195 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 9: I think the only guys who had more receiving yards 1196 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 9: than him combined over the last two years were Marvin 1197 00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 9: Harrison Junior, Elik Neighbors and Rome Adonsay. They're gonna be 1198 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 9: a top three year. Take it off the board. 1199 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 6: So I get it. 1200 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 9: It's Western Kentucky. If it's still if you're productive, you're productive. 1201 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think so where you went there is 1202 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 2: what I think is when you think about this offseason, 1203 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 2: and they did a big job, already restructured in zero. 1204 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 2: There'll be more of those tet was announced today, There'll 1205 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 2: be more of those restructures going forward. But then I 1206 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 2: think what it comes down to is when you watch 1207 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 2: the reality is you've got to deal with the Wizard 1208 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 2: in Kansas City. You got to deal with fifteen, and 1209 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 2: you've got to go through him to accomplish your ultimate goal. 1210 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 2: And he's he's the top of it. But you got 1211 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,240 Speaker 2: Allen and Burrow and Lamar and all of this talent 1212 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 2: in the AFC, And honestly, Chris like, if you don't 1213 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 2: have an abundance of weapons, depth of weapons, it's a 1214 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 2: it's a tough sled. And so it is defensively, most 1215 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 2: of them. They're gonna have to do better at defensive 1216 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to get new guys in their defensive tackle. 1217 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 2: I think there's just gonna be some guys who can't 1218 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 2: come back because some of the money is finite. But 1219 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 2: the weapon game is the game they need to be 1220 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 2: in this offseason. 1221 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,720 Speaker 6: Yeap makes sense, right, I mean. 1222 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 2: Even running back because Nick is going back and you 1223 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 2: don't know what that's going to be. 1224 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought Jerome Ford did a really nice job 1225 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 9: last year and he can be a weapon. Particularly if 1226 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 9: Nick returns and returns to form, right then that changes 1227 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 9: the entire dynamic of that room. But yes, they have 1228 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 9: to get better. They have to start hitting on some 1229 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 9: of these guys. Cedric Tilman's got to grow up in 1230 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 9: front of our eyes. David Bell made progress last year, 1231 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 9: He's got to be better. I mean, the Browns have 1232 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 9: kind of given these mid round picks almost red shirt years, 1233 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 9: and not a lot of teams do that. So we 1234 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 9: need to see these guys get going here. Some have 1235 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 9: and some have fallen by the wayside. And if the 1236 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,439 Speaker 9: Browns are going to improve on what was a very 1237 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 9: very fun season to watch, those guys have to get 1238 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 9: better and we do have to continue to add if 1239 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 9: the receiver room has, in my opinion, has got to 1240 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 9: get better. And part of that is also like unlocking 1241 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 9: Elijah Moore. I know this is the last year of 1242 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 9: his rookie deal. I thought he was going to add 1243 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,399 Speaker 9: a lot more than he did, and I think there's 1244 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 9: more to give there. 1245 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 2: It was interesting too, because the game that Amari was 1246 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 2: out with Flacco, then you saw Elijah look like what 1247 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 2: we thought he would be consistently. So I think that's 1248 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,720 Speaker 2: the other part of it too. We are it appears 1249 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 2: that under under coach we are and I'm curious how 1250 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 2: much Ken we'll we'll fit factor into this. And we 1251 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 2: have a great deal of success, two time Coach of 1252 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 2: the Year, all of those things, but we are a 1253 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 2: one read, two read offense. First guys open, throw it 1254 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: to him, second guy, and then we don't get to 1255 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 2: third and fourth very often. If you look at how 1256 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,720 Speaker 2: our game logs go, a lot of times it's two guys, 1257 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 2: it's Chief and it's Amar with a lion share. We 1258 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 2: need to distribute that a little bit. I'm sure that's 1259 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,439 Speaker 2: one of the one of the factors in what they're 1260 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 2: doing offensively this offseason. 1261 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 6: I would imagine. Uh. 1262 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 9: Plus, it doesn't feel like outside of Chief and sometimes 1263 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 9: with Cooper that were a big yack team. No right, no, 1264 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 9: Like who's the best yack team in the NFL The 1265 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 9: Niners and they have been, it feels like for four 1266 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,400 Speaker 9: or five years. And so they're putting their guys in 1267 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 9: a position to not only catch the ball but do 1268 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 9: something with it afterward. That was the thing I was 1269 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 9: expecting out of Elijah Moore that I didn't see enough. 1270 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 9: Like it was catch it and then that was kind 1271 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 9: of it. You know, maybe two or three yards, But 1272 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 9: where's the play where he catches it and he's gone. 1273 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 9: You know, he adds another thirty to the play. And 1274 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,479 Speaker 9: I think that's incumbent on not just you know, Elijah Moore, 1275 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 9: but the scheme and figuring out ways to do it 1276 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 9: and the delivery of the football and all that sort 1277 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 9: of stuff. So there are areas where this team can 1278 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 9: obviously get better. 1279 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the dynamic is that we needed to 1280 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 2: add a little of that totally. It needs we thought. 1281 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 2: I think they thought that would happen with good one 1282 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 2: and that you know that the injury that would happened, 1283 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 2: you know, physically at the beginning of the year kind 1284 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 2: of stunted that, so you never really saw that come 1285 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 2: to fruition, but that is they got it. You have 1286 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 2: to have those home run hitters. You've got to be 1287 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 2: able to have. It's it's great to have ten play drives, 1288 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 2: you need a couple three play drives in there from 1289 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 2: from time to time as well. How do you now 1290 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 2: that you've had separation, You played a big part in 1291 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 2: the season as well. One of the voices of this season, 1292 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 2: how do you Nathan and I talked, have talked a 1293 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 2: lot about like it's almost like three seasons happened in one, 1294 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 2: you know, with with everything that kind of happened. Now 1295 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,359 Speaker 2: that you get distance to it from your perspective as 1296 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 2: a fan and then also as a guy who called 1297 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 2: several of these games, how do you put that twenty 1298 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 2: twenty three season into perspective? 1299 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 6: I thought it was great. 1300 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 9: I measure it on how much I got out of 1301 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 9: it as a fan and my kids, for I mean, 1302 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 9: I have two boys that are twenty three and eighteen. 1303 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 6: They haven't had a lot of these seasons. 1304 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 9: I mean we're talking about a full generation now of 1305 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 9: Rose kids, and they watch every Sunday regardless of win 1306 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 9: or loss over the years, but the amount of fulfillment 1307 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 9: that they got from it that was awesome to see 1308 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 9: because it made me made me feel like I was 1309 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 9: in the eighties again, and it was you know, every week, 1310 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 9: another guy would go down and you'd be like, oh God, no, 1311 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 9: like this is where it ends. And it never ended. 1312 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 9: It was absolutely incredible. And the stuff that Flacco did 1313 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 9: those last five weeks was out of this world amazing. 1314 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 9: That the Thursday Night are against the Jets, I thought 1315 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 9: was really one of the top top moments we've had 1316 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 9: as a franchise in the last four decades. 1317 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 6: I don't know a problem with it now easily. 1318 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 9: I don't easily because it just and I think it 1319 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 9: was great that it was the only game on too 1320 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 9: the whole world watch yes and then, And there aren't 1321 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 9: a lot of times where we've clinched at home right. 1322 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 9: It just it hasn't happened a lot in recent memory 1323 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 9: for this franchise and most importantly for the fan base, 1324 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 9: so to be able to enjoy it soak it in 1325 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 9: was that was special. 1326 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, you you're southern California, lived there for a very 1327 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 2: long time. It's a script you're going to do a 1328 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 2: Disney and say, Hey, we're gonna this guy who used 1329 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 2: to torm on us. We're going to bring him in. 1330 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 2: Then he's gonna throw for three hundred yards every game 1331 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 2: and he's gonna lead us. 1332 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 6: To the playoffs. 1333 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 2: Guys on his couch like, it's just it's honestly, they 1334 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 2: might say it's too much. 1335 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody. 1336 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 9: Will well, now these days, they'll they'll take anything. So actually, 1337 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 9: probably it probably wouldn't reach too much. It'll end up 1338 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 9: on some streaming service. 1339 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 2: It's there though, Like it's just so improbable, it's impossible. Almost. 1340 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 9: It was great. And the fact that it was he 1341 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 9: came from one of our arch rivals and was like 1342 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 9: eighteen and three against us, you know another lifetime was 1343 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 9: it was amazing. I mean, have you have we ever 1344 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 9: seen a guy uh mesmeriz a city in that short 1345 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 9: of span. 1346 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 2: The only thing I could think of was like, and 1347 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna date myself. Not for you, but for some 1348 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 2: of the audience. Old reference lost on young listeners, a 1349 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 2: little bit of there was a little bit of insanity. Yeah, 1350 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 2: there was no no for remember Jeremy Lynn with the 1351 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 2: Knicks where he had like that month. Now it was 1352 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 2: difference because Jeremy Lynn wasn't a Super Bowl champion and 1353 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,959 Speaker 2: Torment the knicks he and played for the Celtics wasn't 1354 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't that. But just in terms of like Joe 1355 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 2: Flacco for the month of December was as popular as 1356 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 2: Bernie Kozar, it was. 1357 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 6: I mean, it was just it really wasn't crowded. 1358 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Yeah, the way that the way that he did 1359 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 2: it and the grace that he had, the way he 1360 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 2: carried himself, it was incredible. Just leadership everything, face of 1361 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 2: the franchise stuff and he it was like such a 1362 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,120 Speaker 2: short period of time, Like we were talking about, you know, 1363 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 2: the Deshaun injury, and somebody asked me, like, I'll never 1364 00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 2: forget doing that show. And Nathan and I've talked about 1365 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 2: it before, like I felt like I was residing over 1366 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 2: a funeral. With the Deshaun injury. It was like reason's over. 1367 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 2: Like I know, we'd already lost Chubb, we'd lost Conk 1368 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 2: like how much right, and and then so to have 1369 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 2: that touch tone. But that was in November eleventh, I 1370 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 2: think that's when. That was something like early middle of November. 1371 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 2: To think that Flacco didn't come along until well after well, 1372 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 2: it's like a it's a month period, it's six weeks. 1373 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 9: So remember the photo that somebody took of him getting 1374 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 9: on the plane and I was like, wait a second, 1375 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 9: is this photo? Like is this a Joe Flacco? Look 1376 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 9: like I'm staring at it, I'm blowing it up and 1377 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 9: then it gets blurry on me. I was like, this 1378 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 9: isn't this isn't. Really, this can't possibly be happening, right. 1379 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 9: I remember, you know, having the discussion with people about Okay, well, 1380 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 9: who are we going to get. I was like, we're 1381 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 9: not going to get anybody that's gonna come here and 1382 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 9: help us out. Really, like, is anybody checked on Colt McCoy? 1383 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 9: Can he lift his shoulder like past here? That's where 1384 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 9: I was going emotionally. And then to have that it 1385 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 9: was it was fantastic. It was a great year. And 1386 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 9: I know it's hard for us sometimes as fans to 1387 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 9: apreciate it because this isn't This isn't recess or middle 1388 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 9: school where like you get a pat on the head 1389 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 9: for just showing up and trying. Right, that's not a way. 1390 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 9: This is professional football where they get paid handsomely. Everybody 1391 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 9: in the building, Well, a lot of people. Maybe not 1392 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 9: everybody here, but you know what I'm saying, Yeah, those 1393 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 9: guys don't. Yeah they and actually there he's gonna dock 1394 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 9: your check. Now, unfortunately there's. 1395 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 6: Gonna be a Stefanski no show tax. They're middling it best. 1396 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 9: When you look at your next paycheck and there's a 1397 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 9: no show Stefanski tax, let's and say know where that is? 1398 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's where I went. That's where it went. 1399 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 9: But you know, my point is is that sometimes our 1400 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 9: perspective is, Okay, it's either super Bowl or the season sucked, 1401 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 9: and that's not the case. This season was really really rewarding. 1402 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 2: It absolutely was. 1403 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 6: Now showed me what you do from here. 1404 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 2: Well, so that's where I was going next with you 1405 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 2: because we talk about and he's a big pittspuke squealers 1406 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 2: all that stuff. But what there the floor is we 1407 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 2: win every year. Yeah no, we're not gonna win the 1408 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 2: sup Bowl every year, but we're going nine to eight, 1409 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna go ten. So that's the key now for 1410 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 2: Andrew Berry, for Kevin Stefanski, for that operation is this 1411 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 2: is this is now the expectation. 1412 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, let's go win the division and guarantee 1413 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 9: ourselves a home game. Yeah, I'd love one of those. 1414 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 9: You know, we have seen one of those in three decades. 1415 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 9: We can you know, the Lions are off the hook now, 1416 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 9: you know. I ran into a bunch of the Lions 1417 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 9: PR people in the lobby last night and where we're staying, 1418 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 9: and they were having their annual NFC North PR dinner. Yeah, 1419 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 9: where the defending champion pays for it. And so Detroit's 1420 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 9: motto had been until last night, eating free since ninety three. 1421 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 9: So now they have this huge tradition, right, and now 1422 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 9: they they're like, what do we do? Like, what do 1423 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 9: we do? When the check comes? We have to take it. 1424 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 9: You know, we've already been given a certain budget for 1425 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 9: it everything. I was like, yeah, but this is the tradition, 1426 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 9: Like you want to have this built into your budget? 1427 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 6: That is great, right. 1428 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 2: So that's a lot of looking at the packers over 1429 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 2: the last two decades, right, picking up a lot of checks, 1430 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you got to do it. 1431 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 6: Isn't that cool though? 1432 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 2: When you think about that little tradition that you just 1433 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 2: shared with our audio, it's so cool that you did. 1434 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 2: But like I think, for sometimes we think the NFL 1435 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 2: is this mammoth entity. But it's a small world when 1436 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 2: you get over here, isn't it, Chris? 1437 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 6: It is. 1438 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 9: It is particularly like in certain sectors, like I said, 1439 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 9: the pr people, they all know each other, right, because 1440 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 9: they all have the same grind that they do, and 1441 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 9: they all have the same frustrations and same excitements and 1442 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 9: all sorts of stuff. So there is there is that 1443 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 9: bonding experience. It is a fascinating event here. 1444 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 6: It really is. 1445 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 9: Right, We're watching a bunch of kids run around in 1446 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 9: their underwear for four days to do things that hopefully 1447 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 9: will translate when they're trying to tackle and run past 1448 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 9: people that are chasing them down. But the rest of 1449 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 9: it is just it's a blast. It's a blast to 1450 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 9: see people and to give people hugs and you know, 1451 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 9: just appreciate the time together. I think if the pandemic 1452 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 9: showed us one thing is it's like, Okay, yeah, we're 1453 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 9: all competing against one another, but damn at the end 1454 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 9: of the day, Yeah, you know, live it up, Go 1455 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 9: have some fun and appreciate what everybody's trying to do 1456 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 9: out there. 1457 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1458 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 2: And I was coming out of dinner last night and 1459 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 2: I came around the corner and Jerry's bus was there, 1460 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 2: which is like. 1461 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 6: Did you knock? 1462 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 5: No? 1463 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 9: Why not? 1464 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 2: I should have? What the hell? What I would have said? 1465 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, who knows what? 1466 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 9: I guess what let's go, actually, let's rout. 1467 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 2: Role play it out. How you go, mister Jerry big fan. 1468 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 9: Just say, hey, you know what, I bet my friends 1469 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 9: that you know, they said I wouldn't knock and somebody 1470 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 9: would you know answer or you know? And I said, 1471 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 9: there's no way that they'll let me on the bus, 1472 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 9: And so that's your next end. 1473 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 2: I think so. And I also think that if somehow 1474 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 2: I could have gotten Jerah, that we would get along famously, 1475 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 2: because I think anybody who leaves their son behind while 1476 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 2: they chopper from facility to stadium because they have time 1477 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 2: to wait, that's my type of guy. 1478 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 9: No question, that's my guy. I hope the three little 1479 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 9: ones are listening, right, it's gonna happen. You get left 1480 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 9: the eye boys, Well, I mean, lit'sten in. Hey, if 1481 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 9: Pops is wealthy enough to go get that chopper and 1482 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 9: leave me, fine, Fine, that's that's true. That'll be their comeback. 1483 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:10,480 Speaker 6: I'm good with that. 1484 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 2: What how do you give me a timeline on this 1485 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 2: week we've got the fields news that you're waiting on. Right, 1486 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,919 Speaker 2: I think everybody the conventional wisdom is it'll be Caleb. 1487 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 5: They'll trade him, Yeah, and they and how quickly? 1488 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 2: Right, So there's that one. 1489 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 9: Well he said, uh, Ryan Pohle said yesterday that we'll 1490 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 9: do it before free agency, and so that's the middle 1491 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 9: of March. 1492 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 2: You think it'll take that long or do you think 1493 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 2: it'll take Like you saw on the Instagram post from 1494 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 2: last night, right, yeah, he did. Don't know what that is. 1495 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 2: It could have been as manager. I mean, this is 1496 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 2: social media stuff. 1497 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 6: It's right part. 1498 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 9: I mean, it could have been that they got the 1499 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 9: reservation at the restaurant they wanted. He said, I'm going home, 1500 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 9: right maybe love Maybe that's great. Restaurant could have been yeah, yeah, 1501 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,480 Speaker 9: could have it. But you think he's going to the Falcons. 1502 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 2: It's got to be right. I mean, as a guy 1503 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 2: who I rooted for him big at Ohio State. Yeah, 1504 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 2: and love what he did. I want him. He's had 1505 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 2: all these coordinators. He was in one of the worst 1506 01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 2: spots you gotta be put in as a rookie quarterback. 1507 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 2: I just don't even to be put in a place 1508 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 2: where he can succeed and show his best. To me, 1509 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 2: Atlanta's talent would check all the boxes. Now they're gonna 1510 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,919 Speaker 2: have to build an offense around him, and they're gonna 1511 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 2: have to let him do what he does, which is 1512 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 2: run the ball and throw it deep. 1513 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's the spot to me. 1514 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 2: I mean, where else would you want him if you 1515 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 2: were rooting for him? 1516 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 9: So you have to kind of follow a little bit 1517 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 9: of the coaching lineage here, right, Yeah, so Zach came 1518 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 9: from he's running the offense down there under Raheem Morris. 1519 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 9: He came from the McVeigh tree. Oh yeah, So mcveigh's 1520 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 9: favorite quarterback is Matthew Stafford. You know what does he 1521 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 9: do best? Now, it doesn't mean that that he can't 1522 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 9: deviate from that philosophy. But that is not Justin Field's strength. No, 1523 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 9: it's not. 1524 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 6: It's not. So you have to be. 1525 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 9: Willing to take a huge leap of faith and you're 1526 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 9: putting everything in the Justin Fields basket. It doesn't mean 1527 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 9: it's necessarily a bad thing, but it feels like they've 1528 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 9: got so much more in place. They've put a ton 1529 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 9: of draft capital in that offensive line. Yeah, we know 1530 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,560 Speaker 9: what they've done with top ten top two ELF picks 1531 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 9: at receiver, tight end and running back right, and we 1532 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 9: all thought that maybe Arthur Smith hated your fantasy team 1533 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 9: the way he ran that stuff, right, So. 1534 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 2: So I guess you know you you out in LA. 1535 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 2: You know, like, would they would they be more comfortable 1536 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 2: with a Russell Wilson type because Cousins isn't hitting the market. 1537 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 2: That's not the feeling I got yesterday that because Cousins 1538 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 2: I think would be the home run for them, Like 1539 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 2: I think you win the second with Cousins. So I 1540 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 2: just don't think he's leaving Minnesota. Yeah, to me, that 1541 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 2: is he said yesterday. So then if Cousins isn't in play, 1542 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 2: they have to upgrade quarterback? Do they hang in the 1543 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 2: draft and they look at JJ McCarthy at eight? You 1544 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 2: mentioned they have so much into it, do you do 1545 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,520 Speaker 2: the I agree with you. The fields fit isn't great. 1546 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 2: Like if they hired Monkin to be the head coach, 1547 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 2: then now we're talking if they would have gone that 1548 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 2: route and he could have employed employed some of the 1549 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 2: things to use with Lamar, but that doesn't seem like 1550 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 2: that's a that's not going to be the thing. 1551 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 9: Well, the other thing with fields. The The difficulty is 1552 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,840 Speaker 9: is the contract situation, so entering year four and so. 1553 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 2: Know that's trick, but these are decisions you're made at prime, right, 1554 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 2: These conversations. 1555 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 6: Really really tricky there. 1556 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 9: I don't know where they go if they if they 1557 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 9: can't get their hands on Cousins, because I think I 1558 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 9: think if Kirk Cousins gets there, I think they are 1559 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,800 Speaker 9: a legit threat to the Niners and to I think 1560 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 9: the Rams will continue to make progress. And the Lions 1561 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 9: I think are really interesting. In the Cowboys, I think 1562 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 9: they're right up there with those teams. 1563 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 2: There's no doubt. There's no doubt. It's just can they 1564 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 2: get their hands on him? And if you're if you're 1565 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 2: quazy running the Vikings, can you risk justin Jefferson not 1566 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 2: having someone throwing in the ball. 1567 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 9: He said he's not trading him, right, I think, to 1568 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 9: be honest with you, I think if you're the Vikings, 1569 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 9: this is where you turn it over, dump it and 1570 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 9: say we're restarting. We are really restarting. Yeah, because if 1571 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 9: you bring Kirk back, then what are they looking like? Okay, 1572 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 9: they're an okay team, Neil not coming back. No two 1573 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 9: stud receivers. Yes, you'd have that, but there's a ceiling 1574 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 9: to it, though. You could trade justin Jefferson, you could 1575 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 9: get I mean, look at what the Chiefs got for 1576 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 9: Tyreek Hill. 1577 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,600 Speaker 2: There's no doubt that the bounty on him would be extraordinary. 1578 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 6: And and you could move up. 1579 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,760 Speaker 9: Then you you only do that if you're Minnesota, if 1580 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 9: you have plans of moving all the way up to 1581 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 9: three in my opinion, and getting one of those big 1582 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 9: three quarterbacks and then restarting and saying Jordan Addison's are one, 1583 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 9: and we'll add somebody else in this draft that will 1584 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 9: help him out, like they could do a quick turn here. 1585 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:37,200 Speaker 2: So is that Arizona's at four? Yep, and then the 1586 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,320 Speaker 2: Chargers are at five. So I don't see. No, I 1587 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,840 Speaker 2: can't see a scenario where the where the Patriots would 1588 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 2: move out. I don't either be Washington, not with that 1589 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:50,200 Speaker 2: ownership right they want to. 1590 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 9: I think all three do. I think that New England's 1591 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 9: the one where you might be able to pry it loose. Yeah, 1592 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,240 Speaker 9: and I don't think they should. Yeah, but maybe that. 1593 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it could very well be. This is this 1594 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 2: is fun though it's fun, this NFL com. It's always 1595 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 2: fun talking to you but yeah, of course great ship. 1596 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah good good catching up always good. Uh sorry, ks, 1597 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 2: where are you? I mean he is Gibby doesn't know, 1598 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:17,839 Speaker 2: isn't no no idea. 1599 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 5: That's it. 1600 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:19,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's all we got. 1601 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,760 Speaker 2: Our our our medium people couldn't find him. Well maybe 1602 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 2: we'll have to send our best, say, our best people 1603 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 2: will see if they can find him. Yeahst no mention 1604 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 2: a big Z today, right you know what he's doing? 1605 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,560 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, do I know. Oh we had a conversation 1606 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 9: about it two months ago. 1607 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1608 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 2: Sure, only he would be like, actually, is there any 1609 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,719 Speaker 2: way that we can do this at a different time 1610 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 2: so that I'm like, come on. 1611 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,000 Speaker 9: Guys, guys at work? Ahol, Like he really is he 1612 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 9: needs this, he needs this time. Ask Gibb about Oh yeah, 1613 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 9: he loved. We had a big thrilled about it. See 1614 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 9: you too. 1615 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 2: The Great Chris Rose joining us here at the NFL 1616 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 2: Scouting Combine in Indiana Appolis. You're listening to Cleveland Browns 1617 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,680 Speaker 2: Daily brought you by Bally Bet Sports winning part in 1618 01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty 1619 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 2: ESPN Cleve. 1620 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bed Now 1621 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,760 Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1622 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily. Join now 1623 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 2: by your head coach, Kevin Sefanska, joining us here in Indianapolis, 1624 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 2: NFL Scouting Combine. We've not had a chance to have 1625 01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 2: you on the show since the season ended, and in 1626 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 2: season we had ab on yesterday, And I know in season, 1627 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 2: you guys are process oriented guys. Next day, next practice, 1628 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 2: next game. You've had some time now to think back 1629 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 2: on the twenty twenty three season. How do you put 1630 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,960 Speaker 2: it into perspective? How do you appreciate it? Yeah, it's 1631 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 2: a great question. I mean, now is the time for 1632 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 2: what we're doing as a coaching staff is really pulling 1633 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 2: everything apart and looking at it all. And certainly, when 1634 01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,599 Speaker 2: you don't achieve the ultimate goals of what you're trying 1635 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,680 Speaker 2: to achieve, you carry that disappointment with you. And by 1636 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 2: the same token, you look back and you look at 1637 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 2: some of the performances by our players in some adverse conditions. 1638 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 2: I just thought there were so many times where guys 1639 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,200 Speaker 2: stepped up. I thought the coaches got guys ready to 1640 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 2: play on short notice, and there were really just you 1641 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 2: kind of can go game by game of guys making 1642 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,400 Speaker 2: plays that were just hard to coach. And those are 1643 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 2: things that I appreciate as I watched the tape and 1644 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 2: look back at things that we were able to accomplish. 1645 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that we're not going to try to 1646 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 2: get better, because we are. But I can't discount the 1647 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 2: effort that you saw from the guys this past season 1648 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 2: when you and A B came in and even anytime 1649 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,080 Speaker 2: we talked to Paul, it's the Brown's way, like this 1650 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,599 Speaker 2: is what you're building, that culture. All of that, in 1651 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 2: a way was everything you dealt with the best example 1652 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,799 Speaker 2: of what you've built kind of coming through on the field. 1653 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, and maybe, but I also know you have to 1654 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,560 Speaker 10: do it every year. It's a year to year opposition 1655 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 10: that you have to. You have to live out those 1656 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,800 Speaker 10: things that you say you are. Certainly you know, resilience 1657 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,680 Speaker 10: is a big piece of It's really part of what 1658 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 10: we talk about. It's part of our identity as being 1659 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 10: a resilient bunch. And this year of years was definitely 1660 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 10: a time to show that. There were moments, you know, 1661 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 10: I think back to the Pittsburgh game at home with 1662 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,479 Speaker 10: you know, I think we lost to Seawan the week 1663 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,559 Speaker 10: before in Baltimore, which and then the team learns that 1664 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,559 Speaker 10: he's out for the season, which was a shock to everybody. 1665 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,840 Speaker 10: And then turn around and proud of Dorian getting back 1666 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,759 Speaker 10: out there and going and helping win a football game. 1667 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 10: Obviously that was a battle because it's Pittsburgh Cleveland, but 1668 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,560 Speaker 10: there were moments like that game where guys responded that 1669 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,800 Speaker 10: they showed that they were resilient because, as we all know, 1670 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 10: when it's things are easy, it is easy. When things 1671 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 10: are hard, it can be hard. But I thought we 1672 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 10: had a locker room that really made sure that they 1673 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,599 Speaker 10: kept the focus where it needed to be, and that 1674 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,400 Speaker 10: focus was let's go find a way to win a game. 1675 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 2: It's so interesting you bring up the Pittsburgh game because 1676 01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 2: from your guys's vantage point, what that where your head 1677 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 2: went with it. You talk to fans and which is 1678 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 2: what we do, and they it was like the Pittsburgh 1679 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,679 Speaker 2: game was like we're gonna be okay. That was like okay, 1680 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,800 Speaker 2: because there was a lot you're right, I mean, that's 1681 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,400 Speaker 2: a hell of a week. The DeShawn injury, Okay, done 1682 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,559 Speaker 2: for the year. Here we go, now what happens? And 1683 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 2: then you got the rival coming in that was a 1684 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,759 Speaker 2: moment there, man, for the city, for the fans, for everybody. 1685 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,800 Speaker 2: It's interesting that it felt that way for you guys too, 1686 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,719 Speaker 2: even though they're separate in a way connected. 1687 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, and there's a bunch of moments like that in 1688 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 10: the season. That's the one that comes to mind when 1689 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 10: you talk about being resilient. But you look really across 1690 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 10: the season. I've said this so many times. You cannot 1691 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,719 Speaker 10: predict a season. You can't predict anything in this NFL. 1692 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,479 Speaker 10: That's why everybody tunes in, That's why we're all fans 1693 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 10: of this game, because year to year, you just don't 1694 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 10: know what's coming your way. And this year was another 1695 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 10: great example of that. 1696 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,240 Speaker 2: You've been around professional sports much of your life. You 1697 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 2: want to talk about unpredictable. If I take you back 1698 01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 2: to Greenbrier and say, Kareem Hunt Joe Flacco combined for 1699 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,440 Speaker 2: about twenty touchdowns in Cleveland Browns. 1700 01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, wouldn't have seen that coming. You would have won 1701 01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 10: some money from me. 1702 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 2: I think that's probably would have been a safe bet. 1703 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 2: There was a let's do that. I wanted to ask 1704 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,120 Speaker 2: you about Joe a little bit because it was it's 1705 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,640 Speaker 2: so remarkable what he did in that time in the 1706 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,160 Speaker 2: professionalism all of it that he carried and the way 1707 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 2: that he played. When we go back to those practices 1708 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,680 Speaker 2: in la As you were seeing him operate. I mean 1709 01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,759 Speaker 2: he's on a couch. It's kind of like a movie 1710 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,800 Speaker 2: script what happened this year? Like, and you're like, oh, 1711 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,200 Speaker 2: he got it? When did you know he's still at it? 1712 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 6: That way his workout, you know, that was the thing. 1713 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 10: You know, we brought Joe in and you didn't know 1714 01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,200 Speaker 10: until you saw Joe go through the workout, but his 1715 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 10: workout was really impressive. And what was it, I mean 1716 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 10: simply movement skills, dropping back and throwing two receivers and 1717 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,559 Speaker 10: putting his arm talent on display. So I knew what 1718 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,360 Speaker 10: he was capable of. Even at that point we brought 1719 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 10: Joe on, Joe was coming under our practice squad. It's 1720 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 10: not like Joe came right onto the active roster. So 1721 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 10: it wasn't like, Okay, we got to get this guy 1722 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,360 Speaker 10: ready to play in a week, and soon enough we did. 1723 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,679 Speaker 10: But really it was just can we add a guy 1724 01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,439 Speaker 10: that you know has played, has some experience, and does 1725 01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 10: he have anything left? And the answer to me watching 1726 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:03,639 Speaker 10: that workout was yes, he does. 1727 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he certainly did and prove that over the course 1728 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,479 Speaker 2: of the end of the season. You guys announced earlier 1729 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 2: this week you'd be heading back to the Greenbrier. I 1730 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 2: noticed this during the player availabilities as the season went along, 1731 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,720 Speaker 2: and I'm sure you guys took note as well. Anytime 1732 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 2: that we talked about the adversity you guys went through, 1733 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,840 Speaker 2: they would reference that time down there. What did that 1734 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,519 Speaker 2: time mean for you? And obviously meant enough that where 1735 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,040 Speaker 2: you want to run it back, But what part of 1736 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,200 Speaker 2: the team building that you see down there that you 1737 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 2: said we got to run that back. 1738 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1739 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,320 Speaker 10: Again, it's not like you go down there and you 1740 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 10: can just replicate year to year. But I just think 1741 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 10: there's value in putting your football team together. We're all sequestered, 1742 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 10: we're all embedded in one place, we're all under the 1743 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 10: same roof with some weird wallpaper. So I just think 1744 01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 10: it's valuable just to have your guys around each other, because, 1745 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 10: as you know, in the new day and age of 1746 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 10: the NFL, you're limited to the amount of time you 1747 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 10: can spend on a training camp date. So that time 1748 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,320 Speaker 10: and whatever the time is, and guys are then going 1749 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,280 Speaker 10: home and going to be with their families, which is 1750 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,720 Speaker 10: great as you're trying to build a team. It is 1751 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,559 Speaker 10: valuable at least for whatever it is ten days to 1752 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 10: be around each other and when the clock ends and 1753 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,280 Speaker 10: we're done working, Hey, let's go get a meal together, 1754 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 10: let's go hang out, whatever it might be. You can 1755 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,559 Speaker 10: do that way easier when you're in a place like 1756 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,719 Speaker 10: we're in the Greenbrier, whereas at home, guys are typically 1757 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 10: kind of going in their own direction. 1758 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,560 Speaker 2: So that will be the jumping off point for the 1759 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,280 Speaker 2: season next season as well. Ab with that yesterday that 1760 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,080 Speaker 2: that was going to be part of it. You mentioned 1761 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 2: that now you're going through everything from last year, a 1762 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 2: lot of changes obviously, and let's talk about your staff 1763 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,320 Speaker 2: a little bit with Ken. What did you see in 1764 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 2: Ken and what do you hope that he provides for you? 1765 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,960 Speaker 2: And you're always so collaborative, you know, you'd like the 1766 01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 2: sharing and all of that stuff. What did you learn 1767 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 2: from Ken in the process that led you to believe 1768 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 2: that that would be a fit. 1769 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 10: Well, like you said, it was a process, and we 1770 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 10: talked to a bunch of different guys, but ultimately felt 1771 01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 10: Ken's experience as a quarterback, as a coordinator all the 1772 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,000 Speaker 10: places that he's been, all the teams that he's worked for, 1773 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,519 Speaker 10: both from a standpoint of the offensive scheme, with the 1774 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 10: quarterbacks that he's worked for, worked with, just felt like 1775 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,120 Speaker 10: he was the right fit for us. I think Ken 1776 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 10: is really good for me in that we see the 1777 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,360 Speaker 10: game in a lot of ways, very similar, but we 1778 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,479 Speaker 10: also push each other and he has aspects of game 1779 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 10: that he's been exposed to. I have different aspects. So 1780 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,679 Speaker 10: it's a really seamless to me collaboration of bringing great 1781 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 10: ideas together and not just Ken, you know, Duce Staley, 1782 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 10: Tommy Reese, Andy Dickerson, roy Is von guys that we've 1783 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 10: added to our group that this is really a let's 1784 01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 10: put all the ideas in the middle of the table, 1785 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 10: and the coaches that are returning, you know, chat o'sha 1786 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,519 Speaker 10: is a big part of that, thinking about let's okay, 1787 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 10: as we put this thing together, we're not just going 1788 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 10: to do everything the same way just because that's how 1789 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 10: we've always done it. That's not what you ever want 1790 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,599 Speaker 10: to do. What you want to do is year to year, 1791 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 10: how can we get better? And I think we have 1792 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,920 Speaker 10: a bunch of different perspectives now. Obviously with Ken sitting 1793 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 10: at the head of that table to put this thing 1794 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:00,720 Speaker 10: back together with all that. 1795 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,160 Speaker 2: In mind, and you're very fine of a lot of 1796 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:03,960 Speaker 2: the guys who were here previously, but for you in 1797 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,559 Speaker 2: terms of just getting the synapses fire again hearing different voices. 1798 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:08,799 Speaker 2: Have you noticed that already? 1799 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:09,599 Speaker 6: Oh, without a doubt. 1800 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 10: And again, as you go through this profession and you 1801 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 10: go somewhere and it's the first year, a lot of 1802 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,760 Speaker 10: those conversations that you have in year one you don't 1803 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,679 Speaker 10: really have in year two, three four. So this has 1804 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 10: been a way for us to achieve that and talk 1805 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,360 Speaker 10: about different ways that we teach things, different ways that 1806 01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,240 Speaker 10: we run things, and that can be so nuanced. It 1807 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,880 Speaker 10: can be so specific as to footwork, it can be 1808 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,240 Speaker 10: so specific as to a landmark maybe for a running 1809 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,599 Speaker 10: back on a running play, or the depth of a route, 1810 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 10: like all of those things are the things that we're 1811 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,640 Speaker 10: talking about now that how do we want to do 1812 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,760 Speaker 10: this moving forward? If it's Hey, this is the way 1813 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,200 Speaker 10: we do it, this is what we believe in. Is 1814 01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 10: everybody on board? 1815 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 5: Cool? 1816 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:47,840 Speaker 10: All right, Let's move on to the next thing. Hey, 1817 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,760 Speaker 10: I have a different way of thinking about this. Let's 1818 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,080 Speaker 10: explore that. Let's watch tape on that is that how 1819 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 10: we want to do this moving forward? Great, let's do it. 1820 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,559 Speaker 10: Let's change what we're doing in this area. Let's maintain 1821 01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:57,840 Speaker 10: what we're doing in this area. Those are all the 1822 01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,320 Speaker 10: conversations that we're having right now. 1823 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,000 Speaker 2: The loss of Bill Unique, I mean, obviously that's the 1824 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 2: one instance where he was going to where he was 1825 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 2: going to get Do you think by the way your 1826 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:06,880 Speaker 2: dad could work for you? 1827 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,519 Speaker 4: No, not not smart enough. 1828 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,120 Speaker 2: My dad would not take any of my guidance on anything. 1829 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:15,760 Speaker 2: It would not go well. But how do you he's 1830 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 2: the best offensive line coach maybe in the history of 1831 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,320 Speaker 2: that sport. How do you make sure that what he 1832 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 2: built is the culture of the offensive line remains going forward? 1833 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 2: And yet that's because it's got to be authentic to 1834 01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:26,799 Speaker 2: Jase too. 1835 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:27,240 Speaker 6: No doubt. 1836 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,280 Speaker 10: And I think Andy Dickerson is somebody that I feel 1837 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,679 Speaker 10: really strongly about. Andy actually worked with Bill under Bill 1838 01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,480 Speaker 10: in New York. He's got a variety of different experiences. 1839 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 10: You know, Andy's coming in to be Andy Dickerson. You 1840 01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,759 Speaker 10: don't come in and try to be Bill Bill Callahan. 1841 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,360 Speaker 10: That's just not fair to Andy or to any coach. 1842 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,080 Speaker 10: As you try to there's no such thing as replacing 1843 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,439 Speaker 10: that type of coach. So we feel really strongly about 1844 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,759 Speaker 10: the room, about the things that we've done, the different 1845 01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 10: pieces that we've added. But this will be something that 1846 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,639 Speaker 10: we work through with Andy. But don't want to discount 1847 01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,960 Speaker 10: what I think of Bill as a person as a coach. 1848 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,639 Speaker 10: You know, I love the man. He's a great coach. 1849 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,280 Speaker 10: I'm excited for him and Brian to be able to 1850 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,160 Speaker 10: work together in a They're truly a unique situation. I 1851 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 10: don't I'm sure there's examples of that maybe elsewhere, but 1852 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,400 Speaker 10: this one was unique and just felt like it was 1853 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,040 Speaker 10: the right thing to do. 1854 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:17,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly. 1855 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 9: So. 1856 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 4: I know a lot of you. 1857 01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,600 Speaker 2: I heard you in the availability over there. You and 1858 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,959 Speaker 2: Ken are heading now to check on to Shawn. Obviously 1859 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,640 Speaker 2: that was a big part of our season and his 1860 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:30,519 Speaker 2: rehabilitation and getting back. As you've had conversations with him 1861 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,200 Speaker 2: through this offseason post surgery rehab. How's he doing. 1862 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:34,160 Speaker 10: He's doing great. 1863 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 4: You know. 1864 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,639 Speaker 10: I've talked to DeShawn, tried to talk to him every 1865 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 10: day every other day via text, and he's doing great. 1866 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,880 Speaker 10: You know, his rehab is going well. He's exactly where 1867 01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 10: he's supposed to be. He's as you can imagine, he 1868 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 10: wants to go faster and faster and faster. But you know, 1869 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,639 Speaker 10: I think it's important for Ken, for myself to get 1870 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,519 Speaker 10: out there, especially Ken and DeShawn. And this is such 1871 01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,599 Speaker 10: a relationship business. You know, you know each other via 1872 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 10: phone calls, but just to get to know each other 1873 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 10: and break bread for a night, I just think is important. 1874 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly so, and that'll be such a big part 1875 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,400 Speaker 2: of it. I know that the I'm not going to 1876 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,520 Speaker 2: put you on the on the spot on a timetable, 1877 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,599 Speaker 2: but he is progressing towards you know, it's always Mini 1878 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:14,920 Speaker 2: camp would be spinning it. 1879 01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:16,800 Speaker 6: He's right where he's supposed to be. 1880 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 10: I don't know exactly where that's gonna mean for mini camp, 1881 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 10: for training camp, all those things. 1882 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what did it mean to you to have? 1883 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,240 Speaker 2: And I know we see him in the building, like 1884 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,719 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb. I mean, I just think what he means 1885 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 2: to the fans, and like him breaking a guitar, like 1886 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,960 Speaker 2: all of those things with a Batman mask, like to 1887 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:35,840 Speaker 2: go through what he went through, but then also still 1888 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:36,879 Speaker 2: be that emotional heartbeat. 1889 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:40,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, nixt special person. As we all know, 1890 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,479 Speaker 10: he's working very hard right this minute. I don't know 1891 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,200 Speaker 10: this for sure, but he's probably in Borea right now. 1892 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,599 Speaker 10: He's probably in the weight room. Seems to live in there. 1893 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 10: And then you mentioned, you know, there were moments in 1894 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 10: this season without him was really hard. But he'd pop 1895 01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,000 Speaker 10: his head in every once in a while and then 1896 01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,760 Speaker 10: literally pop his head into the stadium and put a 1897 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 10: mass gone and smashed a guitar, which I didn't see coming. 1898 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 10: But you know, Nick's great person. Excited for him as 1899 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,880 Speaker 10: he gets through this rehab, as he pushes through, you know, 1900 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 10: just never going to discount Nick jobb. 1901 01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,439 Speaker 5: No, no, no, not at all. Sometimes I think sometimes 1902 01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 5: he has a cape. You I know you're not one 1903 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,760 Speaker 5: for the individual stuff, but what did it mean for 1904 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,400 Speaker 5: you to see Miles win Defensive Player of the Year. 1905 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,479 Speaker 2: That's something he has chased for a long time. He 1906 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,519 Speaker 2: had a lot of individual comeback Player of the Year 1907 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,000 Speaker 2: for Joe, all of those things. As were you watching 1908 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 2: as that show? Did you get to yep, I was 1909 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:33,840 Speaker 2: watching the show. 1910 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,400 Speaker 10: My kids had it on, very excited for you know, 1911 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,120 Speaker 10: very excited for Miles, so obviously deserving. 1912 01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,879 Speaker 4: That was you know, the no brainer of no brainers 1913 01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:42,240 Speaker 4: for us. 1914 01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 10: You know, unbelievable player you probably should have wanted that 1915 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,719 Speaker 10: should probably shouldn't be his first, Yeah, won't be his last. 1916 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:49,400 Speaker 5: Uh. 1917 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,200 Speaker 10: For Joe, and I think the whole NFL recognize how 1918 01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,439 Speaker 10: unique that situation was, what was fun. And then for Jim, 1919 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,240 Speaker 10: you know, Jim winning Assistant Coach of the Year, I 1920 01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,200 Speaker 10: think is awesome. And I think all those things individual accolades, 1921 01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,800 Speaker 10: which are are great for the sport, but this is 1922 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 10: the greatest team sport there is, so all those individual 1923 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,160 Speaker 10: accolades really reflect on the team. And that's what I'm 1924 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,639 Speaker 10: most proud of is because it says something about our teammates. 1925 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 2: Were your kids watching when you went, yes, we had 1926 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:16,559 Speaker 2: it on. 1927 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,719 Speaker 10: That was speaking of unique, that was different. 1928 01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 6: You know, it's funny. Uh. 1929 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,120 Speaker 10: I'm sitting there and with the kids and actually just 1930 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,160 Speaker 10: put my daughter in bed, and I got my phone 1931 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,600 Speaker 10: out and my phone starts buzzing, and I guess there 1932 01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 10: were there were some media members not gonna say who, 1933 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,200 Speaker 10: that were in attendance at that. So I'm watching it. 1934 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:41,120 Speaker 10: I'm probably fifteen seconds behind them. So I'm sitting there 1935 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,040 Speaker 10: and my phone starts buzzing and I pick it up 1936 01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:47,880 Speaker 10: and it says congratulations Steven, and I'm like, what does 1937 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 10: that mean? So I put it away and then what 1938 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:55,000 Speaker 10: happens happens like, okay, now that makes sense. So that was, Uh, 1939 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,360 Speaker 10: that's pretty great. Yeah, that was that was crazy. But 1940 01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 10: were the kids like dead, Well, I've told the story. 1941 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 10: I have a cousin, Steve, who's very who I'm very 1942 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,720 Speaker 10: close with, who my kids are very close with. So 1943 01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:07,960 Speaker 10: it wasn't the fact that they said the wrong name 1944 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,360 Speaker 10: that was a big deal. It was the fact that 1945 01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,400 Speaker 10: they said Steve. So we immediately picked up the phone 1946 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,519 Speaker 10: and called uh, uncle Steve, as my kids call him, 1947 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:17,320 Speaker 10: and he was pretty excited. 1948 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 6: He's had a very good month. 1949 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:19,479 Speaker 4: He's had some fun with us. 1950 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 2: I think if I'm Uncle Steve, that might be like 1951 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,000 Speaker 2: my answering machine or my ring tone might be right. 1952 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:24,880 Speaker 2: Then might be good. 1953 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,960 Speaker 10: He he's expecting, uh, he's expecting the red carpet when 1954 01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:29,880 Speaker 10: he gets back out here to Cleveland to go play 1955 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:30,320 Speaker 10: some golf. 1956 01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,000 Speaker 2: That's very very good. You ever, you get a little 1957 01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,839 Speaker 2: flex with the kids. Maybe they're not listening to you, 1958 01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,600 Speaker 2: you know, team time Coach of the Year. Maybe I 1959 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,559 Speaker 2: had to listen to what I'm saying. They're not listening 1960 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,439 Speaker 2: no respect. That does not move the needle. What's next 1961 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 2: for you? What's the next couple of weeks, Like for 1962 01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,720 Speaker 2: you guys got free agency? Yeah, uh and then and 1963 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,639 Speaker 2: then and and that's where you will Yeah, March. 1964 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,960 Speaker 10: Is busy, you know, we'll uh again, we're kind of 1965 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,160 Speaker 10: full speed ahead with the coaches in our meetings, which 1966 01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,639 Speaker 10: have been going really well. Then at the end of March, 1967 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 10: it's the league meetings or we'll head down to Orlando 1968 01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,720 Speaker 10: with everybody and as you know, just spend some time 1969 01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,040 Speaker 10: down there with different people and make sure we're kind 1970 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,240 Speaker 10: of all on the same page. That's where you find 1971 01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,400 Speaker 10: out about some rule changes and all that type of stuff. 1972 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 10: But in between its free agency and I'm as interested 1973 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,760 Speaker 10: as everybody to see how it all plays out. There's 1974 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 10: there's always uncertainty in these things, but I can promise 1975 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 10: you Andrew has a plan and then a backup plan, 1976 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,120 Speaker 10: and then a backup plan of that backup plan, so 1977 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,320 Speaker 10: he's well prepared and we'll see how it all shakes out. 1978 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,280 Speaker 2: Contingencies built upon contingencies. 1979 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,120 Speaker 5: That's right, great senior coach Senior banks Kevin spanskyt joining 1980 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:29,040 Speaker 5: us so much more to come. 1981 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,200 Speaker 2: You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN. 1982 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:38,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bed 1983 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,560 Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight to fifty esp and Cleveland. 1984 01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 4: All Right. 1985 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:25,840 Speaker 2: Be sure to check out the brown social media channels 1986 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 2: daily to play the Browns Digital Scratch Off game for 1987 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,599 Speaker 2: your chance to win club seats. That are the great 1988 01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,080 Speaker 2: prizes presented by the Ohio Lottery, the official lottery of 1989 01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,080 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. So there you go. 1990 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,600 Speaker 5: It's quite a quite a day. There's a day that 1991 01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,479 Speaker 5: hour two. We didn't know what what was common, what 1992 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 5: to expect. Jordan Reedal joined us later in the week. Yeah, 1993 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,400 Speaker 5: Kelsey Russo our staff writer handling that, Yeah, doing a 1994 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,479 Speaker 5: great job. Had to move a few things around. That's right, 1995 01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,320 Speaker 5: communicated well within the department. 1996 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:59,800 Speaker 2: And yet huge venus display. Just just crush a couple 1997 01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,680 Speaker 2: of fantastic interview see Rose and I and then the 1998 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:03,760 Speaker 2: great Stefanski. 1999 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know that. 2000 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,120 Speaker 2: Look, there is news of the day stuff that he 2001 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,400 Speaker 2: addressed in podiums and with the beat. That was the 2002 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,280 Speaker 2: first time we've had a chance to talk to him 2003 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,000 Speaker 2: on this show about what had happened that season. Yeah, 2004 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,160 Speaker 2: in a more intimate way the twenty twenty three season, Yeah, 2005 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,000 Speaker 2: and then can what can go forward from that? And 2006 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 2: the one thing that I think you got out of 2007 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,879 Speaker 2: that was, and I think you got in our conversation 2008 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:35,600 Speaker 2: with Ab yesterday, that's the floor postseasons the floor for 2009 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,160 Speaker 2: this group, and that they are so driven to make 2010 01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:42,759 Speaker 2: sure that that is the floor and that what comes 2011 01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,840 Speaker 2: next is more of it and even better of it. 2012 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 2: And I think that I liked what Ab said yesterday 2013 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,320 Speaker 2: when he talked about look like it can't be playoffs 2014 01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,800 Speaker 2: or super Bowl er, it's a failure, Like that's that's 2015 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,000 Speaker 2: such a hard world to live in. But at the 2016 01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:58,559 Speaker 2: same time, as you heard from Kevin, like we didn't 2017 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 2: accomplish our ultimate goal right when the division do those things, 2018 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 2: like those are the things that we didn't do. And 2019 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,559 Speaker 2: so while it's remarkable and to hear him talk about 2020 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,559 Speaker 2: Joe and the workout and knowing then that like, oh, 2021 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,240 Speaker 2: he's he's got. 2022 01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,800 Speaker 5: It, He's gonna be he could be more than a backup. 2023 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,760 Speaker 5: He could play, he could play, Yeah, like those type 2024 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,439 Speaker 5: of things. And I thought that it was interesting because 2025 01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:28,639 Speaker 5: I thought yesterday when when Nathan asked Ab about about 2026 01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,880 Speaker 5: the Deshaun injury, and he said, look like I had 2027 01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 5: twenty four hours, forty hours heads up, and he even 2028 01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,240 Speaker 5: acknowledged that I had to understand that everybody else didn't. 2029 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,360 Speaker 5: For everybody else, it was happening in that moment and 2030 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,240 Speaker 5: they were having to deal with it. And while I'd 2031 01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,400 Speaker 5: had known and I'd gotten my head around it, nobody 2032 01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,280 Speaker 5: else had right. Everyone else was trying to trying to 2033 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:49,720 Speaker 5: put her all together and make sense of it. 2034 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:57,799 Speaker 2: So I know this. We were here now is four season, 2035 01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:02,120 Speaker 2: four years ago their first combine with Aby and Kevin Well. 2036 01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:07,080 Speaker 5: The first combine they yeah, it was literally shut down. 2037 01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,080 Speaker 2: The next week was two weeks later the world shut 2038 01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,639 Speaker 2: down with the conference championshipmember the IVY League didn't play, 2039 01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,800 Speaker 2: and it was like, yeah, I don't know, but we 2040 01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,120 Speaker 2: were We were here, and we had talked to those 2041 01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:21,200 Speaker 2: guys then, And to think about everything that they had, 2042 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,920 Speaker 2: I think it is fair to say that what they 2043 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,680 Speaker 2: threw a lot, through COVID, through the Baker Odell, all 2044 01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:28,960 Speaker 2: of that stuff, through all the injuries, all of it, 2045 01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,160 Speaker 2: they have built what they wanted to, which is a 2046 01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,640 Speaker 2: very high floor for an NFL franchise and a very 2047 01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,400 Speaker 2: high culture floor. They have that and when you go 2048 01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,320 Speaker 2: through what you went through this season, still win eleven games. 2049 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:40,120 Speaker 2: I think it proves. 2050 01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,559 Speaker 5: It and buckle up because the next month, Yeah, lot, 2051 01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:44,280 Speaker 5: that's going to happen. 2052 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:45,360 Speaker 6: Lot going on, Yeah going. 2053 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:46,719 Speaker 5: I mean there's going to be a lot of movement. 2054 01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:50,880 Speaker 5: I mean, you saw Denzel restructuring his deal, saving the 2055 01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:55,639 Speaker 5: team eleven million and change, so that will work out. Well, 2056 01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,240 Speaker 5: there's going to be a lot more of that, I 2057 01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,680 Speaker 5: feel like, and you know, then we just you know, 2058 01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,960 Speaker 5: we see what who's back and who's not. A lot 2059 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:03,839 Speaker 5: of one year deals. 2060 01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:08,240 Speaker 2: And the other thing is is because of in this league, 2061 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,160 Speaker 2: everyone else is doing the same thing. So Kida City's 2062 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:12,960 Speaker 2: won two straight Super Bowls, they're in your conference. You 2063 01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,440 Speaker 2: got to chase them down. You know, you heard Cincinnati 2064 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 2: this week, like we're bringing back to Higgins one way 2065 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:17,639 Speaker 2: or another. 2066 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:18,439 Speaker 6: We're going to sort it out. 2067 01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,840 Speaker 2: So like the margins are the margins, something's going to 2068 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,840 Speaker 2: happen with these quarterbacks. Wherever they're going to end up. 2069 01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,599 Speaker 2: Those are going to happen in the next week or so. 2070 01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:26,720 Speaker 2: So the league is going to continue to evolve, and 2071 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:28,040 Speaker 2: we'll be here every step of the way to keep 2072 01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,040 Speaker 2: you updated. On the Browns part in all of that, 2073 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:30,679 Speaker 2: thanks for listening. 2074 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,880 Speaker 5: Everybody, safe travels. We'll talk to you tomorrow. 2075 01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,439 Speaker 2: Very you will. Indeed, the next levels coming up next. 2076 01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:41,800 Speaker 2: Cleveland on a daily eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 2077 01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,040 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 2078 01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:52,280 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 2079 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:01,320 Speaker 6: Then time 2080 01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,680 Speaker 2: The Anasta