WEBVTT - US Open: On and Off Court Wrapup

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, in that it's a real features.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm giving this little Tony microphone to Peco.

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<v Speaker 3>I do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Does it look funny? Yes? It looks so cute.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just reading my fan mail on your Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a fan mail? Oh no, thanks, Caitlin. Really shame

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<v Speaker 1>because Andrea is brilliant and I definitely listen. I agree, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the deal. Okay, everyone, welcome to the Renee stubs.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you are you already telling me what to do? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the Renee Subs Tennis podcast. Hi everyone. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we try and get into studios. Sometimes we can, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we can't. I didn't book it today, so we're in

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<v Speaker 1>Kaitlin's apartment. So if you hear noise in the background,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's New York City, so you need to just

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<v Speaker 1>get over it. It is time for us to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up our US Open coverage. And before we get started, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a happy motherfucking birthday to the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only Andrea Bitch. She wishes she was thirty. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you my little tiny microphone, and Caitlin

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<v Speaker 1>and I are going to share one. Okay, So here

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<v Speaker 1>we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy birthday to the do I have to hold it

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<v Speaker 3>through the close? That's fine, isn't it so cute? It

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<v Speaker 3>is very okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get started on the US Open. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>get right into it. Let's start with the winners, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll get into questions that were sent to me

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. Blah blah blah. And let's start with the

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<v Speaker 1>men because it was so close. It was yesterday, straight

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<v Speaker 1>set win for Yannick Sinner. Nobody was surprised by that.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually picked him to win in straight sets, and

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<v Speaker 1>I also picked him to win the tournament, didn't I Caitlyn?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what about Caitly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I picked Tilor Fritz, which I will say in retrospect

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<v Speaker 2>is stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>However, he made a final. No, I thought there was

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<v Speaker 3>a brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually have to give you kudos.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good that was I did pick him. When

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<v Speaker 1>Djokovic lost, I said, Taylor will make the final.

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<v Speaker 4>I was hoping Taylor would put Renee just can't. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the one thing you should know about Renee. She can't

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<v Speaker 4>just let anybody have a win, so she will just

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<v Speaker 4>stamp her name onto everything that Caitlin has achieved with

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<v Speaker 4>her random ass Taylor Fritz call, who's never made it

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<v Speaker 4>past the quater finals.

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<v Speaker 3>That is brilliant. And I'm giving you the win. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you. I'll give you a ninety win because

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<v Speaker 1>technically my player won the tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>I was happy to see Center win. He deserved the win.

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<v Speaker 2>Play excellent. He was I thought, improving match to match.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you guys felt the same way,

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<v Speaker 2>but he looked even more solid and yeah, sort of unfettered.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when he came into turn In at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a little bit of the question mark answered questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Answered, Yeah, I think think the I think in the

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<v Speaker 4>semi finals he didn't look great. I think he was

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<v Speaker 4>struggling with playing Pukey Jack Draper. I thought in the

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<v Speaker 4>second week that was his worst match of all. My

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<v Speaker 4>favorite match, I think the best match he played was

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<v Speaker 4>the one against Tommy Paul where Tommy Paul played the

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<v Speaker 4>match of his life and somehow found himself to two

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<v Speaker 4>sets to love down. I think my favorite match of

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<v Speaker 4>Yannix was the one against Media Dev because he showed

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<v Speaker 4>what he can do. One day he was playing serve

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<v Speaker 4>and volley he was slicing, he was playing a few

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<v Speaker 4>drop shots. You saw a few in the final as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's where I saw a real improvement from janicks Ina,

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<v Speaker 4>who just played incredible at the beginning of the year

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<v Speaker 4>but was kind of zoning, and now I see actual improvement.

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<v Speaker 1>I give a lot of credit to Darren k Hill

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard, and I know his other Italian coach, Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think he does great work with his technique,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see him on the court, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of more of the xces and guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>Darren is a little bit more of like the stats

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<v Speaker 1>guy and looking at how to beat somebody and how

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<v Speaker 1>to utilize his strokes. And I think that he's done

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<v Speaker 1>such a good job of making Jannick Sinner into a

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<v Speaker 1>really whole player. And I mean, my god, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I was there for that Tommy Paul match

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<v Speaker 1>and there were times I was sitting watching the points

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<v Speaker 1>in the stands because I had the night off after

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<v Speaker 1>because I'd worked the first match, and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>literally going, oh my god, what is going on? These

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<v Speaker 1>two are so fucking good. They're so quick, They're hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the shit out of the ball. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>tennis is on a different level now, It's crazy. It's true.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to do an Italian TV hit.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my God because they super tennis yeh SkySports.

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<v Speaker 2>And he talked to me about the Americans, which we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to and how good a tournament this was for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was the main point of the interview.

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<v Speaker 2>But then they were like, oh, what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>about Center and Medvedev? And I was like, I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have to think. This is like the final, right

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<v Speaker 2>and this is probably the highest quality.

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<v Speaker 1>We called it in the green room the de facto final,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't want to take away anything from anybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't, but well, they were the two highest

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<v Speaker 1>left in the drawer.

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<v Speaker 3>Djokovic were bounced, and we want.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only two guys that want to Grand Slam.

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<v Speaker 2>The only experienced players. Said but no, I love the variety.

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<v Speaker 2>I love seeing him come in. I love the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he seemed to like added dimensions to his game

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that like I love.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, does anybody not like this guy?

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<v Speaker 4>I think some people have the and that's what I

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<v Speaker 4>will say. I think some people are some people find

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<v Speaker 4>his game boring, but everyone who thinks that. I would

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<v Speaker 4>just urge them to watch him live, because when you

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<v Speaker 4>see him live, it's absolute insanity. How he moves, the

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<v Speaker 4>balance he has at every single shot that he plays,

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<v Speaker 4>and what was so impressive to me. I called his

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<v Speaker 4>match against Jack Draper court side, and I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was the first time. Yeah, it was the first time

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<v Speaker 4>I called anything of.

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<v Speaker 3>His court side.

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<v Speaker 4>And even with Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal, even they

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<v Speaker 4>take pace off when it comes to crunch time, when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to tie breaks, when they want to make

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<v Speaker 4>a ball right when it's break point, they sort of

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<v Speaker 4>go for big targets, a bit more spind Yannickxenner fucking

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<v Speaker 4>goes for more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he plays faster. I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't believe it, and I kept and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>go when I'm courtsided.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to be respectful of the people in the booth.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to come in more than the guys

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<v Speaker 4>that are actually talking.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just couldn't believe that this guy is hitting harder,

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<v Speaker 3>and for some reason, his shots seems safer when he

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<v Speaker 3>hits harder.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was in sane, but that's his way

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<v Speaker 1>of playing. Though his player of playing he tries to

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<v Speaker 1>massage it around and get a little bit like caution

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<v Speaker 1>in his game. Then his feet aren't working right. And

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<v Speaker 1>he has the most incredible tiebreak record. And I said

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<v Speaker 1>it at Wemblede, I said, the thing that distinguishes him

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<v Speaker 1>apart from so many players, And this is what Novak

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<v Speaker 1>was doing for a long time, right, not losing a

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<v Speaker 1>tie break. If you get into a tiebreak with Yannick,

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<v Speaker 1>you better play really like perfect tennis, because he is

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<v Speaker 1>going to play, as you said, aggressive and he trusts

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<v Speaker 1>his shots and he serves big, and he's such a

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<v Speaker 1>good returner. It's ridiculous how well he plays tennis on

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<v Speaker 1>hard court. He's just which is why I picked him

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<v Speaker 1>to win. You know, I just think Alcohoraz is better

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<v Speaker 1>on the natural surfaces. He moves better on clay, he

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<v Speaker 1>moves better on grass, he's a little bit lower to

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. He has that. But Yannick that that sure

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<v Speaker 1>footing on hardcourt is what makes him so good on

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<v Speaker 1>the surface totally.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think maybe to your point, Andrea, that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>is why people take longer to appreciate an etcter because

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<v Speaker 2>Corolos on the natural surfaces, you can play the spontaneity

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<v Speaker 2>of the surface better, whereas Yannick is just moving well

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<v Speaker 2>and it's more like death by a thousand cuts. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not the best, he's going to be everywhere. He's incredibly well.

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<v Speaker 2>He's never he's never a balanced and he gives he.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that the great, great, great players,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't like react when they miss a shot or what.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's arguably the most like quiet, non bullshit,

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<v Speaker 1>not complaining player I've ever seen play. He misses a

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<v Speaker 1>ball that he should make and he just turns around

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<v Speaker 1>and walks the other side. It's unbelievable how he handles

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<v Speaker 1>adverse moments in matches, Like even Rogers sometimes would like

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<v Speaker 1>Shakey's or you know whatever. Rafa would sort of gesture sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>but oh my god, you know, it's like the poker

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<v Speaker 1>player you want playing for you. He's unbelievable in those moments. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a really good point because he has

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<v Speaker 4>this thing that I think the last person to have

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<v Speaker 4>it was Roger Federer, that every single match he seems

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<v Speaker 4>to strike the perfect balance of relaxed and focused. I

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<v Speaker 4>think Roger was the last one because with Carlos. You

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<v Speaker 4>see it oftentimes that he has too much tensions or

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<v Speaker 4>is too loose.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you can see it with him.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Novak has mastered in a different, different way

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<v Speaker 4>because he always needs a bit too much tension so

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<v Speaker 4>you don't notice it, but he lives off of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little bit angry at everyone, and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>he does.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And to your point, Caitlin, with Carlos, I think why

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<v Speaker 4>people And I was talking to somebody I don't I

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<v Speaker 4>think Robbie Koenig. Actually I was talking to somebody about that.

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<v Speaker 4>To your point, why Carlos flocked? People flock to Carlos more.

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<v Speaker 4>When Yannick doesn't play well, as he didn't in the

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<v Speaker 4>first week, he's right away boring because he's like because

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<v Speaker 4>he just plays a solid and the other one will

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<v Speaker 4>eventually miss right and it's boring. But when he plays well,

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<v Speaker 4>he's the most spectacular player on the world and callous.

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<v Speaker 4>When he fails, he still plays fails gloriously, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's why people is like, oh the chaos, that's

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<v Speaker 4>so interesting to watch. And I think that's the difference

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<v Speaker 4>between the two. Because when Sinna is not playing well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of like, why is.

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<v Speaker 3>He so good? And then he plays well and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we take a second to talk about Jack Draper,

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<v Speaker 2>who I think for a lot of people, myself included,

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen him play all that much.

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<v Speaker 3>I was really impressed with his swagger.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we need to talk about the puking because

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<v Speaker 2>one of the benefits of getting the sick churt side.

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<v Speaker 2>And if anyone's not reading under his substack finite jest,

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<v Speaker 2>please do because you get incredible tidbits like what you

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<v Speaker 2>see when people.

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<v Speaker 3>Puke churt side. But I really want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of get you to, first of all, talk through

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<v Speaker 2>that match in particular, but also like talk us through

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<v Speaker 2>the Jack Draper model, swagger, Lefty, you know favorite bands Oasis, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to ye, what's my favorite genre is grime

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<v Speaker 4>and rap I really makes absolute zero sense. First of all,

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<v Speaker 4>if you have the chance to look at his atp

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<v Speaker 4>bio page, please do. I was dying of laughter when

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<v Speaker 4>I was reading it. In Cincinnati. I called one of

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<v Speaker 4>his matches, and I have to say I really like him.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought he showed incredible resilience in that match. He

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<v Speaker 4>was puking and then continuing, and the chair umpire was

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<v Speaker 4>yelling at him, well, Jack, let's clean it up, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's like, no, let's continue, let's continue.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was very impressive.

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<v Speaker 4>What was less impressive was the smell that just was

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<v Speaker 4>hanging andating on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny you say that because I went court soide

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<v Speaker 1>I was at courtside, then I guess the day after,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was sitting in the referees area and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, why does it smell like puke? And

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<v Speaker 1>I clearly forgot. I forgot about Jack Draper puking all

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<v Speaker 1>over there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just everywhere and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Camera caught it twice or three times, but Laura Robson

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<v Speaker 4>was next to me. We're pretty sure we saw him

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<v Speaker 4>four or five times, or was kind of behind. I

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<v Speaker 4>was not happy we did a replay of the puke.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, guys, we can leave that out.

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<v Speaker 3>This is maybe what the people are here for.

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<v Speaker 2>Like how famous from twenty years ago? Like yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>I just was impressed that he wanted to keep playing.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember in juniors they used to teach us puke

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<v Speaker 2>right on the court so that they have to clean

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<v Speaker 2>it up to recover.

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<v Speaker 3>So smart.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're like oh, I can at least buy myself

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of time to like maybe take some

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tablets, or get my stomachs out all.

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<v Speaker 4>So he just wanted to keep playing, like he just

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to keep playing. I really appreciated that. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it had a little bit to do with the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that he's physically he's gotten better, he said it, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's still not at the best he can be considering

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<v Speaker 4>his body type.

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<v Speaker 3>He cramps off and I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I called where he cramped crazy, And I think that

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't want to be the one that again retires

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<v Speaker 4>because he physically couldn't withstand whatever Yanick Sinner was throwing

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<v Speaker 4>at him. And by the way, Yanick Sinner also was

0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.319
<v Speaker 4>spitting pickle juice right in front of for me and

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<v Speaker 4>Laura Robson, and you were just like basically holding hands

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<v Speaker 4>hoping for all the smells to evaporate in the air

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<v Speaker 4>whatever was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love Laura, she is so dry.

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<v Speaker 4>And at one point Jack Draper wiped the puke of

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<v Speaker 4>the court and then wiped his face and put it

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<v Speaker 4>in the towel wreck and Laura just looked at me

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<v Speaker 4>and just very dryly said in terms of hygiene. We

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<v Speaker 4>can do a lot better down here.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the Queen I was dying a little better.

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<v Speaker 3>So we could do a little bit better down here.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of hygiene of hygiene, we could do a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better down here. So speaking of people that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of lost a little bit of physical gas, was

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<v Speaker 1>Francis Tiafo somebody else who sweats like a maniac, and

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<v Speaker 1>he paid the price because his legs went from under him.

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<v Speaker 1>He said in the press conference after that, he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>my nerves got the better of me. And people don't

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<v Speaker 1>realize when you get nervous, it actually drains your muscles

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<v Speaker 1>as well. You get tired, and you could see that

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<v Speaker 1>in the fifth set. And also Taylor just having a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger serve. It got him through an over line because Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the video at like I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was four all game in the fourth set, he

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<v Speaker 1>looks up at his coach and you know, his coach,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Russell. He's usually like very stoic, doesn't really show

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of emotion because Taylor's so you know, emotional

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<v Speaker 1>on the court, and he got up out of the

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<v Speaker 1>chair and he was like come on, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>like giving it to him like, let's go, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was such a brilliant coaching moment because Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>was he was on the edge. He was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hitting his legs and you're like, oh my god, is

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<v Speaker 1>his leg's going And then Mike sort of like giving

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<v Speaker 1>it to him a little bit. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>like two games later, Francis is the one struggling. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was such an important like coaching moment too, because sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know Peco, when you get in those big matches,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like there's such a fine line between giving it

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<v Speaker 1>everything and knowing if you can give more. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a weird balance. So when something like somebody snaps you

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<v Speaker 1>out of it, it's like, come on, you can do this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just like okay, yeah, I can do this, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you're like, oh shit, I'm up

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<v Speaker 1>a break in the fifth And that's what happened. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like ten minutes. It went from Taylor looking like

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was struggling physically to all of a sudden,

0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Francis looking like he was done, like put a fork

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<v Speaker 1>in him. So it's interesting, how how is france Is

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<v Speaker 1>going to jump like just recover from that because that's

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<v Speaker 1>two back to back five set semi finals that he's

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<v Speaker 1>lost now at the US Open.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you want to jump in?

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if I'm Francis Tiafo and I've had the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of year he has, I actually take that as

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty big positive. I mean, yes, the actual match

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<v Speaker 2>itself and running out of gas is not that great,

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<v Speaker 2>but I also think, like to get back to where

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<v Speaker 2>he was last year after a way better year is

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<v Speaker 2>not actually that much of a step backwards. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think for me, actually, if I'm his team, I'm like, okay,

0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.360
<v Speaker 2>let's build from there. Like, see, you're still at that level.

0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.280
<v Speaker 2>You haven't missed a step. All you needed was a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of good matches in a row. Yeah, shame you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make it into them or.

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<v Speaker 3>Into the finals.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, I actually thought that was tremendously positive the

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<v Speaker 2>last like last two weeks, given the season that he's had.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree too, But at least it's something that he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to think about now for like months

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<v Speaker 1>and months before the Austrain Open rolls around. But they

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<v Speaker 1>also said that he might he wouldn't be maybe as

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<v Speaker 1>nervous at the US at the strain Open as the

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<v Speaker 1>US Open because it means so much to him and

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<v Speaker 1>all the wanting to be the first black man in

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<v Speaker 1>the finals of the US Open since Arthur Ash, all

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<v Speaker 1>the history of you know it just it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more than we realized, an.

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<v Speaker 2>Extra and just certainly the crowd favorite, and of the Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody's by far chosen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you pulled ninety nine people on the street,

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<v Speaker 2>they would say, I want to get the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way A ninety nine percent of the players who and

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<v Speaker 1>I've asked this question because I did it in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the most, you know, fun guy in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the one that's always in a good mood? Ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent of the player said Francis too. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the other one was alchhaz So, I mean, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing I'll say, though, and I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>saying this, but I think it's true, is I think

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<v Speaker 2>his ceiling is just so much lower than all the

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<v Speaker 2>other players. So for me, I don't see him in

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<v Speaker 2>that final unless he adds layers to his game. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he was kind of lucky to get there, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, and I wasn't not rooting for him, but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Am so Now she's throwing.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Caitlin is throwing me a curveball because I was

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about I thought that the first four sets against Taylor,

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<v Speaker 4>Fritz Francis Tiafo played the best match of his career.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what we normally see from Francis is he

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<v Speaker 4>plays brilliantly, then he goes away for two games, then

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<v Speaker 4>he plays brilliantly for a set, then he goes away

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<v Speaker 4>for three games. He played the best match I've ever

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<v Speaker 4>seen him play. He didn't miss a forehand until the

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<v Speaker 4>end of that fourth set except one game. That's when

0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.640
<v Speaker 4>he got broken. Taylor was serving a ridiculous amount of

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<v Speaker 4>eighty seven percent first serve. That's why he won the

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<v Speaker 4>second set. Otherwise Francis would have won in three sets.

0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.760
<v Speaker 4>He played one bad game where he hit two double

0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.600
<v Speaker 4>faults and shank the foehand. That was one bad game

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<v Speaker 4>in four sets. That's incredible. He would have popped, probably

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<v Speaker 4>beaten anybody else on tour. But because Fritz has this

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<v Speaker 4>big serve, he kept himself somehow in and he kept

0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.480
<v Speaker 4>himself in that foreset because Francis was much better Yea

0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.960
<v Speaker 4>and I think that's what Septus energy because he had to.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, I want this so much, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to be extremely focused. He didn't have any ways, and

0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.520
<v Speaker 4>he needs to get there to be this focused at

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<v Speaker 4>this level for long periods of time without sapping his energy.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's what scept is energy, not the

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<v Speaker 4>nerves and not the physicality. We all know he's so strong.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think he focused. He didn't give himself

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<v Speaker 4>one single except for those three points and a second set,

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<v Speaker 4>one single time where he just like looked into the

0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.600
<v Speaker 4>crowd and saw who's there and kind of went He

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<v Speaker 4>was just there all the time. And if he can

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<v Speaker 4>get used to this, I think he has a big shot.

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<v Speaker 1>If he can to practice like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to practice like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to go out there for three or four hours,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if it's two hours in the morning and

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<v Speaker 1>two hours in the afternoon, and have the same mentality

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to have on match caught if you

0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.520
<v Speaker 1>were going to get through those matches. But he did

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<v Speaker 1>say the next day, Oh, he did say after the

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<v Speaker 1>match that the nerves did affect him. So I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I do agree with you. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to be like that. But also the US Open,

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<v Speaker 1>it just when you were that he was two games

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<v Speaker 1>away from being in the final. Let's not forget he

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<v Speaker 1>was four all I'm telling you, Taylor, if you go

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<v Speaker 1>back and watch the match, he was struggling there physically himself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that energy boost for him when you

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<v Speaker 1>won the fifth set, and I think he knows he

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<v Speaker 1>can serve his way through the match then and Francis

0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.600
<v Speaker 1>has to work a little bit harder. And Francis's legs

0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.840
<v Speaker 1>were gone, he couldn't serve, he wasn't serving well well.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we have to mention that thirty one shot rightly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my, that's that was pot We're going to get

0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to him. But Nick Curious called that. He said that

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<v Speaker 1>was the point that absolutely killed he was killed Francis.

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<v Speaker 1>No one, no one said it enough, I think on

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<v Speaker 1>the coverage, and it was the point that ruined him

0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and he lost it and then it was over after that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I always have to sit my favorites and my

0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.000
<v Speaker 4>big crush, Jim Courier said too. We were on the

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<v Speaker 4>World Feed together and he called it as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Him like my weird thing with Todd Martin. But yes,

0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:15.280
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you have these weird things. But he said it incredibly.

0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:19.040
<v Speaker 4>He's so good and he said, he said, I've never

0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.399
<v Speaker 4>he said it, I've never seen Francis keel over on

0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:27.600
<v Speaker 4>his knees after yeah and yes, yeah, he said, I

0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:29.000
<v Speaker 4>never seen Francis do this.

0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he can recover from it, and he really.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's wrap up. The American men had a great

0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.960
<v Speaker 1>tournament though, with Francis getting to the Semis and Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>making the finals.

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<v Speaker 3>We just have to say one thing about Taylor. Fritz.

0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Taylor Fritz. I love him to death. He's an incredible competitor.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that so much. He's so fucking resilient.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I saw him on the bench after he

0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.119
<v Speaker 3>lost the final, sad he was.

0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.080
<v Speaker 4>I saw that was the origin story of his neck

0:19:58.160 --> 0:19:59.760
<v Speaker 4>if he ever wins a major title.

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<v Speaker 3>Seen it in his face, he was plotting it. I

0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:03.480
<v Speaker 3>love that he's.

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.880
<v Speaker 4>Two one dimensional much that he didn't play one single

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.480
<v Speaker 4>angle and one time he framed it and that's when

0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.840
<v Speaker 4>he got a free point because was like, oh, that

0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:14.880
<v Speaker 4>he needs to add something to his game.

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<v Speaker 2>You think at a certain point, after two and a

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.600
<v Speaker 2>half sets of tennis and losing, you'd be like just serveal.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you seen he was vollied amazing and it's francis

0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.840
<v Speaker 4>amazing And he even said, he said, like, I've never

0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:31.280
<v Speaker 4>volleyed this way in my life.

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Listen. He and I've had this little bit of a

0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.920
<v Speaker 1>conversation on you know, messaging, because I say.

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:38.439
<v Speaker 3>Because you're there, you got to.

0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:43.359
<v Speaker 1>I am you got too. And he says, I know

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.320
<v Speaker 1>we've been trying, but I just it's so foreign for him.

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.000
<v Speaker 1>But my god, Taylor, if you want to win a

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Slam against Carlos alz and Yanick Sinner and Novak,

0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.480
<v Speaker 1>because he's still there, you have to improve your net

0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:00.880
<v Speaker 1>game because there are so many times times that he's

0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:04.199
<v Speaker 1>playing the most unbelievable shots and not going in and

0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.120
<v Speaker 1>then the ball comes back slowly, and then he smacks

0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 1>another great shot and it comes back slowly, and then

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:11.960
<v Speaker 1>he smacks another shot. It's like, oh my god, just

0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:12.760
<v Speaker 1>take it out of the.

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.679
<v Speaker 3>Fucking air or hit it to an angle, or hit

0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:17.160
<v Speaker 3>it to an angle.

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<v Speaker 4>Because he plays in credit because yesterday was the perfect

0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.920
<v Speaker 4>example of a player playing the same game the other

0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:27.360
<v Speaker 4>one just being a tiny little bit better, a tiny little.

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Better, except does everything better?

0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:32.399
<v Speaker 3>Yes better?

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.560
<v Speaker 1>His forehands a little bit bigger, his back ends a

0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit bigger, and he can hit that angle. He

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.520
<v Speaker 1>comes into the net, improve his game.

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 3>He forces himself. Yeah, he forces himself to do it.

0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.679
<v Speaker 4>He also played a huge dropshot that it looked terrible,

0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 4>but my power to him.

0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 1>And I got to tell you, guys, I saw them

0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>practice and he was practicing that a lot. So he's

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:58.639
<v Speaker 1>trying to implement the layers. To be a great player,

0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to have layers. Now, that's Carlos has done

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 1>with the drop shot with the forehand. He comes into

0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:06.120
<v Speaker 1>the net all the time. He has such variety. I mean,

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Novak improved his net game. He has dropped shot off

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the backhand, Like, you've got to have variety, and if

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you don't, these guys are too good.

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I think one thing to echo what you're saying, Andrea,

0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 2>and you're right, Renee, is.

0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.440
<v Speaker 3>That Taylor has I think the mentality.

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, watching being reminded of his note to himself from

0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.639
<v Speaker 2>here ago, saying how much he knew he himself was

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 2>underachieving and this is not acceptable, and he knew he

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.960
<v Speaker 2>could be much better and through resilience and adding layers

0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 2>and holding himself to a higher standard of accountability.

0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.639
<v Speaker 3>He got to a Grandsom final, which I don't.

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Think even he envisioned, probably for himself, at least not

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 2>in the short term. So to me, I think he

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.560
<v Speaker 2>actually maybe is capable of looking having that on it.

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 2>So maybe that bench moment the origin story Taylor for

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Taylor to get to the next level. Now that he's okay,

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:50.399
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten to a final.

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:53.400
<v Speaker 3>What what now is the else where can I can?

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I find more?

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:55.919
<v Speaker 4>And I will give you a perfect segue to the

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:59.919
<v Speaker 4>women now, no do you want? It is about the man,

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.879
<v Speaker 4>but I will give you a segue as well. So

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:08.240
<v Speaker 4>Jim Corea again, Mark Nole, I.

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Mean just an FYI, I do love Jim as well.

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it is notable that I love him so much.

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, because your cheeks are red right now?

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love it.

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 4>I also put rouge but because it's my birthday, so

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 4>I will say Jim Corey and it's not It's a

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.399
<v Speaker 4>story about him that Mark Knowles told me, which this

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 4>could be a segue into the women's That's why I

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 4>bring it up. He told me the story that they

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 4>were really good friends at Balieri and Jim Corea used

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 4>to get really angry and self sabotage and matches, and

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 4>one time he lost to somebody he shouldn't have lost to.

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 4>He was seventeen years old. And Mark told me after

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 4>that he saw him. They were sharing a room, I think,

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 4>or they saw him in the gym, and Jim said

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 4>to him, I will never let this happen to me again.

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 4>I will never ever lose because of myself again. And

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 4>until the end of his career he never ever did again.

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 4>And this is to me absolutely mind blow. Mark No

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.640
<v Speaker 4>said to me that Jim never again. Would you see

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 4>him get angry, lose his shit, lose his tempo, whatever,

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 4>And I he's a different type. But I still think

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:13.719
<v Speaker 4>Taylor has some of that in him. I think I

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 4>saw it in his face when he lost. He wasn't

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 4>sad and disappointed and everyone is against me. He was

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 4>fucking angry, and I want to see that emotion because

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 4>he was like, man, this is not enough. I need

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 4>to do better. And that's why I think, Caitlin, you're right.

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 4>I think he has the mentality to turn this around

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 4>for him.

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I I don't genuinely think he's He's

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:34.879
<v Speaker 1>good enough and has the weapons, and you've got to

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>have weapons now to win a Grand Slam, and I

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>think he hopefully proved that to himself. And look Roger

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>and his movement has improved out of sight in two months,

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:45.719
<v Speaker 1>like he has gotten faster.

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Is it enough to he needs to be a little

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 3>bit faster.

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 1>He's a little bit gangly and a little bit sort

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 1>of he doesn't move real naturally like even Yannick. He's

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 1>a better athlete. I mean he's a great skier. Let's

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>not forget about that.

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 2>To be on the sloops and the dot, yeah, I

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 2>think that season and get his bending and his power

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 2>be slower and be able to be a little more nimble.

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 3>Like the Spider Man.

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:07.679
<v Speaker 1>I think he needs to stay away from skis. Me

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>imagining him on skis is not a good thing. Jesus knew,

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 1>but a bit he's improved and he's improved everything. The

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>thing for me is that he needs to improve his

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>net game and if he does that, he can finish

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 1>points off quicker specialist. Well you know whatever. Anyway, No,

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to just put a quick mention in because

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 1>we don't talk about it enough. The men's doubles. I

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>want to say huge congrats to Jordan Thompson and Max Purcell,

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>because if anyone saw their match at Wimbledon in the finals,

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, what a choke it was. It was

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>so brutal for me to sit there and watch two

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.119
<v Speaker 1>friends of mine, two Aussie boys about to win a

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Wimbledon doubles title, which is so coveted, you know, in

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the closet of your tennis trophies as an Australian, and

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to watch Jordan Thompson just fall apart. The poor guy,

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 1>he choked so bad and I love him so much.

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 1>And guess I did the women's mixed up, did the

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>women's doubles. After the men's doubles, you guys. And I

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>came back from the from you know, commentating it. It

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>was like ten o'clock at night. There was no one there.

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>It was like quiet, and you know it's like in

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.439
<v Speaker 1>the you walk into the players in that door to

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>go into where the player's locker room is, the men's one.

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's there, just the security people. And I walk in,

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I opened the door and who's the first person I

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 1>see walking up the stairs. Jordan Thompson. And he looked

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>at me before after the men's match, he obviously cooled down,

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and all the staff and did drug testing and all

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the things, and then the women's doubles finished. And he's

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 1>the first person I saw when I walked in, and

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 1>I looked at him, and he looked at me, and

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>he just looked and I just went I almost started crying,

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and I put my arms around him and I said, Jordan,

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what to say. And he said, Stubbsy,

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm so shattered. I've never been more shattered in my life.

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, I can't believe this, and I was like, listen.

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't even know what to say

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to you. But the only thing I'm sorry, but I said,

0:26:58.600 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the only thing I'm going to say to you is

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 1>make this the moment that you decide that you're going

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to come back and fucking win this next time. I said,

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that's the only thing you can think about right now,

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>because honestly, what he went through out there and losing

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that match was so devastating. And it was a great

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>story of the other guys. One guy was working in stats,

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:18.479
<v Speaker 1>the English guy go on, he was like working stats

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>for IBM at Wimbledon like three years earlier, on like

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 1>court seven and he won the doubles, Like what the fuck?

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 1>And was Eliavara was like working in an airport in Finland.

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>So it was a great story for them, but also

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>for me as an Aussie, I was like, I've never

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 1>been so sad for a guy in my life and

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I've just given the biggest hug. I gave him the

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>biggest hug, and I was just like blah blah blah.

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>And so for me to sit there courtside and watch

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 1>them almost lose that doubles match again, when they're up

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a set and five three, two match points lost the game,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Max Purcell just capitulated, serving for the match, double folded twice.

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>It goes into the tie break and I'm thinking, if

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>they lose this match, I'm gonna jump off the Williamsburg Bridge.

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>For them, I couldn't believe it. And God love them.

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>They pulled it out. They played an amazing couple of

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>last points and they want.

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 3>To thank god they played Jamins.

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Thank god they played people that choked more than the authors,

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the Gemmans.

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Thank God they played the Jamins.

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy for them. So why to go Jordan,

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Why to go? Max? Maxil already won a Grand Slam

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>but Jordan was such a he was the solid one

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>in this match. He choked at Womberland. But well done, boys.

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy for them.

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, That actually is a great segue into the women's final,

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 2>because you can decide to be defined by your worst moment,

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 2>or you can decide to be the origin of your

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 2>comeback and the author of your own fortune. Which the

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 2>winner that everybody predicted and I was delighted to see happen.

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Was Arena Semiga a year ago.

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 2>She was in her ski goggles and Balenciaga hat, having

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>basically donated the final to Coca GoF. We love Cocoa GoF.

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about her more. But like watching Arena claim

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 2>what was rightfully hers in such a fashion, emphatically, with joy,

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>with creativity, with the fastest forehand, with stress. Yeah, but

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 2>it was everything that she is, which is everything. She's chaotic, Yeah,

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I love it. Everybody loves it. She is giving it all.

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 4>She's New York to me, she's the epitome of New York.

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 4>She's loud, she's in your face, she's chaotic, she's charismatic.

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 3>That's New York to me.

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>She's trying to buy the whole place of drink.

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's New York.

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 4>I think she's It was really sad for me to

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 4>see her play Americans over and over again. By the

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 4>American women are just so good you will run into

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 4>them at one point exactly because I think New York

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 4>would embrace her more than anybody else that's not American here,

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 4>because she just fits the city like nobody else.

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 2>And for what it's worth, I think from what I

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>could tell, even against Navarro and Pagol in those last

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 2>two matches, as nationalistic as it got at times, I

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 2>think she's so undeniable and fun that you're watching somebody

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>be excellent.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think you do have a crowd that

0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 3>appreciates I think so too. Yeah.

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, have been louder had she been playing Mukova

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 2>in the final, for example, or another player who maybe

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>had less of a connection to the city.

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 3>But I think, yeah, Arina Sablanca is New York. Like,

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 3>she's the.

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Most swaggy player. Really happy to see her. Yeah, from

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 2>last year, everything she gived me, she's.

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>A swag But back it up to Mukhova. No, actually,

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>let's go back and say congrats to Jess Pagoula, because

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>to finally break through in a quarterfinal, oh my god,

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>like six and oh like never gotten through a quarterfinal.

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>And you know, as she said to me a couple

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>of times on on the court, she's like, I don't

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I played great players that either were great players or

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>won the tournament. So we know the loss of von

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>that was the heartbreaker at Wembledon, one for to one

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>point five one third, all the things, but oh my god,

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>like beating Eager in the quarters is an incredible effort

0:30:58.440 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to beat the number one player in the world to

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>get through your first semifinal, and the way she played

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>in that match was unbelievable. Eager did not play well,

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>there's no question, but Jess was way too good from

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>and and I knew it, Jess. You know this, pet Coo.

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>You just know when someone's on like immediately, like the

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>nerves are there, but you can tell that they're striking

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the ball really exactly the way they want. And from

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the very first game when Eager lost her first serve

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and she hadn't lost a serve in like twenty six

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>games or something on serve I might have jinked to

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>before the match because I said you've been serving so well,

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>like blah blah blah. And I was like, then she

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 1>goes out and loses he first service game. I was like, oh, sorry,

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean to jin Chu, but Jess was so good,

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>And I said, sometimes you get good Jess and sometimes

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>you get bad Jess. And sometimes Jess gets a little

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>bit down herself, a little bit it's a bit demure

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, it's not working today. Oh my god.

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>From the first get go, I was like, oh, we've

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>got good Jests today. And that was always gonna be

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>tough for eg if she wasn't playing well. And then subsequently,

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>can we talk about being down a set? Was it

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>six to one or six love, six to one, two

0:31:55.720 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>love break point? Mukhova comes in and misses that unging

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>forehand Volly that she would make nine times out of ten.

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>The thing is about, wait, let me finish this point.

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Jessica got to that ball that she wouldn't have got

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>to a year before, and that's the extra work that

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>she'd been doing in the marks. Had how doing more

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>work on the court with her fitness, you did if

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>people listened to our podcast.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 4>I always looked around to people that were there and

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 4>they were not there strangers, and I was like, i'die.

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Little pet Birdie told me that you were doing more

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>work on the court, and she admitted yes, and you

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>could see that shot she would not have got to

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>six months earlier. And it was a I mean, she

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>nailed that shot and she hits that well, Oh my god,

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>it was a bullet too. And I think that both

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and I give Mukhova credit because me being a net

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>player coming into the net, she covered the right shot.

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>She's on dead run. You have to cover the line

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.719
<v Speaker 1>on that forehand with that situation and then you shift

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to the cross court right and she did the right thing.

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>But it was like a bullet off a racket. And

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>then as soon as she lost that point, I said

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>on the coverage, we all said mark that point, because

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 1>immediately the next point, Jessica started playing better. It was

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>almost like she started striking it better. And we were

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>all like, oh, here's good. Yes, because jess knew that

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>was her chance to put me away. It was over.

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>If she makes it volley a set and three love,

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>two breaks. She's not losing yourself twice movehovah no way.

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, it was like oh shit.

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>When I went to one, I was like, this is

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a completely different match right away, and she started hitting

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the ball unbelievable and Mahovah just went off a little bit.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>But it was an amazing effort to get that match

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>done in three sets.

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 3>No, it was.

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 4>But what I wanted to say about that shot, to

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 4>underline it and emphasize it.

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Is underlining a little birthday.

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Yes, because she didn't have to run to this shot,

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 4>like you know, I mean, of course she would have run,

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 4>but you know what it feels like to run and

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 4>to hustle. You know, sometimes you run pro forma because

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 4>you're like, I'm going to run there, but I know

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to get it. And the reason I

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 4>say that she was Yes, she wasn't her best, but

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 4>she was out played for a set.

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>And a half. She said after the match, I was

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>so embarrassed.

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 3>I was overwhelmed and out played.

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>She said. I felt like a junior. Yes, like I

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>felt like I could not play tennis.

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like because we've all been there. I've

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 4>played Serena when she was going for the Grand Slam

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 4>and I was completely outplayed, and we've all been there.

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 4>When you're in this moment. That's exactly the shot where

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 4>you're like, I'm gonna run there. But I'm not going

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 4>to run there, you.

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:29.919
<v Speaker 1>Know, because you're like, I'm getting killed.

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 4>You're so embarrassed, you just kind of hope that the

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 4>match is over quickly. And that's why I give her

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 4>even more credit for hustling down that ball and trying

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 4>and making it and then turning the match around, because

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 4>I've been in these situations when you're outplayed, and I

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 4>know the feeling of just wanting to get off the court.

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 4>And she didn't let she didn't allow herself to go

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 4>in that place where she's like, let me.

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Just get that one.

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>And she takes so much because she in the past

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>has done that where she wants to high.

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I think she kind of hid to your point in

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 2>that Madison Keys match, correct, that's the best or she

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 2>was just getting outplayed and she kind of just like

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 2>emotionally down shifted and you could tell, as you said,

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>anybody who's ever played tennis, and yes, they're getting out classed.

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 3>You just get me off the court, get this fucking off.

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Just I want to be done. I can't wait to

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 3>be done. And that's what it looked like she wanted

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:20.919
<v Speaker 3>to be.

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Done, and that's when people claim she was crying when

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>she walked off the court, which she was not.

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 3>She was just like over it, and you can tell

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 3>she kind of emotionally just changed. Also, Jess said, after

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 3>you did you ask her?

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I was I did?

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 4>When you know, I think in the first match, was like,

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 4>you might be the one ending Shelby Rogers' career today

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 4>and you're good friends in juniors, and Jess looked at

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:42.399
<v Speaker 4>you and she went, it is.

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:42.839
<v Speaker 3>What it is.

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, this girl is not fucking crying, and then

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 4>she was crying when it was really sweet. But she

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 4>would never cry because of something like this. But she's

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 4>the kind that, or was the kind that goes like.

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I see like, very similar to Lindsay Davenport, like it's

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 1>not working for me today, get me off the court, goodbye.

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 1>And they actually play very similarly when they're on there

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>so good when they're off there, like may I'm out

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>of here today. But huge effort. Even in the final

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>when she was getting crushed in the first set at

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>five to one, it got back to five all and

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my god, and then down three. Love,

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's over because I had to do

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the in between sets for ESPN, and so I was

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>only going to go back on camera if she won

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the second set, right, And I was like, I was

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>not even really not I was paying attention, but I

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, this match is over, so I'm not

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>going back on TV. And then also I was like

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:50.919
<v Speaker 1>three one. I was like, okay, well I better watch

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and that was three T. I was like,

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, but I was three all. I was like,

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, we're going back on TV this She's

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>up five to three, and then all of a sudden, bam,

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 1>she just that's the one thing, jess She's got to

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>If you looked at the numbers of the final that

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 1>were very similar except one stat second serves, she was

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>getting crushed on her second serf. I think she was

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>below twenty definitely below twenty five percent of winning the

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>second serves, where Arena was in the forties. And that,

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>in the end, was the difference. Makeup wasn't first serve.

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Both of them were winning a lot of first serves

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>and are serving it. Jessica was serving a really high

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.280
<v Speaker 1>percentage of first service, but her second serve was getting

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>fucking crushed. So if there's one area that she can

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>improve on, it is that it's tough. She's five foot six.

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's not like she's going to have a big

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>second service, but she's got to figure out a way

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>to hit sliders, keep it below the net.

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 4>I think the slater was because she always goes for

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 4>the kids, and then when you smile, the kick sits up.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 4>Against players like Arena, who loved the hitting strike point

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:50.879
<v Speaker 4>just a bit higher than Hippai. We always talk about

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 4>how women like to play on a hip. I think

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 4>Arena likes it just a bit higher because she can

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 4>lean on it with all her weight and it's so powerful.

0:37:57.719 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you mentioned just mixing it up. It's just

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 3>being to mix it, and I think against these players,

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 3>it's actually better to keep it low. You know.

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 4>It's same with Sam who had the best kick. Serf

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 4>in the world always struggled against Maria Sharapova because against

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 4>exactly against her, it's exactly that little bit lower for

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 4>Maria to have it.

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 1>And Serena struggled with that because Serena was only about

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 1>five nineties, not as tall, and she used her hands

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. Maria really leant on the balls.

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.399
<v Speaker 1>That's why she loved that surf. So yeah, you're right.

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>So those are little things that she can prove, I think.

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 3>And to me, the finals of the women were a

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 3>higher quality match. To I said, it was better. It

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 3>much better, much better.

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 4>Also, the audience was much more affector because it felt

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 4>closer than the Tailor Fritz match as.

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, certainly especially in that second set when she started

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 2>back and was leveling it and you were like.

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>And I loved it. I loved her. She was like,

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>come on, and she was like showing some emotion and

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 1>she did that in the semis too, even when she

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 1>won that game to go to one, because I was

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>sitting courtside she was walking to her chair and I

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>saw her pumper fisce and go come on, and I

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, good for you, Jess, like come on,

0:38:59.280 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 1>you're still in this.

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's funny because the mark or as maryka,

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 4>the mark, the Marky Marks.

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>She called, well, I called them the boys from the Bahamas.

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:13.240
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Mary said the Marky Mark. So the market Marks

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 4>apparently said to her, that's the one thing they gave her.

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:17.240
<v Speaker 3>Try to use the crowd.

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 4>We know you're not the type, but this is a

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 4>major final, the crowd is on your side.

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Arena is so expressive, and so has tried to use it.

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 4>And you saw her when she broke on two one,

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 4>she broke to go up three one, and she went

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 4>like this. It was like she just for those people

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 4>who are listening to a podcast and don't see gestures.

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 4>I just realized she just kind of like went with

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 4>her hand, like she just moved her up, but it

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 4>was so halfheartedly and I was dying laughing because it's

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 4>not her.

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 3>But she's like, I have to use the crowd, and

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 3>she's like, okay.

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>A little bit. I also can we give a credit?

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Sorry but we interrupted Kit when she was making it.

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 2>But I think for me, the getting to a Grandson final,

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 2>finally breaking through, making herself and her presence felt on

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 2>the court, especially against a player who can kind of

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 2>like out hit her and outplay her.

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 3>In terms of variety.

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I also kind of think, like Taylor Fri it's

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 2>like there should be a little bit more dimensionality now,

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 2>especially if she's going to be back there, and I

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>would love to see her throwing in the sliders and

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 2>maybe some of the like hingis and the hennah, like

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 2>she's never going to be somebody who's you know, maybe

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 2>flashy or has the neck game of a Mukova.

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you where she was good. Then to your point,

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>she hit a couple of drop shots off her.

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Backhand, and she did play the slide, and that.

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Is big because she hits the ball so big. What

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>makes a great drop shot her is somebody who hits

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 1>they're either like a you know, like a Roger Federer,

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>where they have feel that's like ridiculous, or they have

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>such big groundstrokes that you constantly always like when they

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>gave an easy one, you your first move is backwards.

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Your first move is a step back, and then bank

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 1>they hit the drop shot. That's why Alcarez hits it

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>off the forehand because you're like, oh my god, he's

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>about to crush this forehand, and so you take that

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>mini step back and then bank. He just goes to

0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the drop shot.

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 4>Jess has to do that on the back can be

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 4>as ugly as sinners because it is maybe the ugliest

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.360
<v Speaker 4>shot in the world. Is so likely and he misses,

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 4>and he also looks like he's telling it, you know

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 4>how he's so natural and flowing and everything he does.

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:13.839
<v Speaker 4>And then when he puts the places the drop shot.

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 4>It looks like he's telling himself, Okay, Yanni, now you

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 4>play the drop shot.

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>There you go. Yeah. Anyway, so we just there.

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Delicious, totally.

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:33.240
<v Speaker 1>For selly, for silly red facili.

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Should yes, a few more, Yeah we were, that's just

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 3>what a great effort. But just a few more words

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 3>on Arena. I think, go for it.

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Just amazing, amazing.

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I think it's hard because she was so good.

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>For sure, she didn't sleep all night long. She's already

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>said on Twitter that I asked her, what are you

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna do, and she's like, oh, we're gonna party, don't worry.

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 1>And then she said to everyone, don't worry. I will

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.720
<v Speaker 1>be back practicing soon. But I am going to party.

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, she should should. This is what fuels her.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's what Serena did when Serena Wan and she

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>partied man and she she like rewarded herself with that

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>time and then back to the drawing board.

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 4>I just I just want to say a few more

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 4>words on Arena because when she was up five to

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 4>two until I think in the second set, because we

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:21.280
<v Speaker 4>had stats that just started.

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Hitting the ball bigger.

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 4>She went up by six to eight miles per hour

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 4>more on the forehand side after she was down three

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.240
<v Speaker 4>to zero. So I don't take so much away from Arena,

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 4>but I do think when she was up five to

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 4>two in the first set, she got a bit nervous

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.399
<v Speaker 4>and she gave just a few points that made her

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 4>come back to five all.

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.240
<v Speaker 3>And in that moment, it felt.

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 4>To me like Arena was not only playing Jess Pagoula,

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 4>but she was playing Cocoa Go.

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 3>From last year.

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she was playing agacon Tech from the year before.

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 4>When she was up a break in the third set,

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:53.839
<v Speaker 4>she was playing Leila Fernandez from the year before. When

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 4>she was she she was so close every time, and

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 4>I would just remind everyone. In the second round of

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 4>the first you know, omi Osaka one, Arena Sabalenka unknown

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.879
<v Speaker 4>and Omio Soaka a little bit better known but also

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 4>unknown played each other. And then the match of the tournament,

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 4>I think we.

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Talked about it.

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:17.399
<v Speaker 4>We win their first exactly and Arena lost seven five

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 4>and the third, so it goes even further back, and

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 4>it just felt like she saw all these players on

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 4>the other side at the same time.

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I wish we if we through, but I wish we

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>could film this and like put it up and just

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 1>have like all those players on like a TikTok. Can

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you figure that out? And then and then just.

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Like hi, yes, I.

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 4>Feel like it felt to me like and then she overcame.

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 4>And that's what I love about her. She yells at herself,

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 4>she hits a big shot, she goes like, let's go.

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 3>And then she overcomes it.

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 4>And that's and I just wanted to emphasize that that

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 4>that's very very.

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Very ghost of of of.

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Semi finalists past.

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, although although she did she did win one

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:02.240
<v Speaker 1>match against Madison Keys that she had no business winning

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>last year.

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>That's true. That's true.

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:05.959
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this is the one that gil has also

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>got some scar tissue.

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 2>From the US, especially given you know, the beginning and

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 2>ending of her year and just some tough stuff in

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 2>the middle and the boyfriend and the stuff, and just

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:19.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think what I like so much about

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.840
<v Speaker 2>her and why she's such an easy popcorn pick for

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 2>anybody who doesn't follow tennis so closely, is everything that's

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 2>happening you see her.

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one hundred percent of the time.

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And it's so you can't relate to her tennis

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 2>or her ferocity, but you can certainly relate to the

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 2>emotional state she's in in a way that's like so

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 2>wonderful to celebrate when she pulls it together and it's

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 2>joyous and you know, great, So yeah, no.

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, And you know, this is somebody who lost

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>her dad, like you know, a bunch of years ago.

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 1>That's always, you know, forefront in her mind as well.

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 1>A little thing on Coco. She's got to get that

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>second serve. She's got to fix the second serve. You

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>cannot play in a quarterfinal, was it quarters?

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh no, No, rand the sixteen against someone and almost

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:08.439
<v Speaker 1>win the match and hit nineteen double faults. You just can't.

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>She has to figure out a way. Yeah, of course.

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean we you know how much we love her,

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and she's a great kid and all the stuff, and

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>she works unbelievably hard. But that that to me, the

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 1>second serve, yips and lack of stability.

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Let's not talk.

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 4>We talk about Coco literally every single podcast. Can we

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 4>please talk about the moment of you and Brett Gilbert

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 4>to me? Nongratulations, No, I honestly I wrote it to you.

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 4>I texted to you. We didn't see each other even

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 4>though we worked at the same fucking venue.

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 1>For No, I didn't see you, not one single time.

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 3>Actually the one time I came to you during qualifying.

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, It is crazy. I didn't see you one

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>time and we were literally at the same place for

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>three weeks. Yes, but I got more chance of bumping

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:01.359
<v Speaker 1>into you on lower e side than I do at

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the Tennessee. Yeah.

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 4>No, But I first I want to say I think

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 4>you did well, and then you can tell us how

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.879
<v Speaker 4>it felt being on air, because I'm sure it must

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 4>have felt awkward. But I think you did well in

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:16.839
<v Speaker 4>not being not shying away to criticizing a player or

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 4>the coaching team with the coach being present, which I

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 4>think I've been broadcasting, not as long as you, but

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 4>for a while.

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't think we should do that.

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 4>I think the inside is great, and you can interview

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 4>him on the next day or you can have him

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 4>on whatever. But I don't think you should have an

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.920
<v Speaker 4>analyst that is supposed to mutually analyze what might be

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 4>going wrong sit on the same stage with the guy

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 4>who's coaching them. Because then you you did great. You

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 4>still said you have peace, and you still said and

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 4>you were still respectful it was like, this is a

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 4>little bit awkward, bred but I have to say that

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 4>these things need to improve. But you could have just

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.879
<v Speaker 4>as because I've been in a situation on German TV

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 4>in that where I was like, this is awkward. I

0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:58.800
<v Speaker 4>don't know if I'm going to say, and then another

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 4>person said something on it I got, well, yeah, so

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 4>I got the kind of the choice was kind of

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:06.720
<v Speaker 4>taken away from me. But I was in the situation,

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 4>so I know what it feels like to be, oh,

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 4>should I say something that's maybe I shouldn't say. I

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 4>just want you know, you could just as easily have

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 4>done that, And I don't think the people should put

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.360
<v Speaker 4>you in you or anybody else in the position to

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 4>have to decide in that moment should I criticize somebody

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.320
<v Speaker 4>or should I not because this might be awkward situation?

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:27.399
<v Speaker 3>And you did really well.

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, listen, it's not easy. I'm not sure

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>if he was actually supposed to be there at that time.

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, we have to sometimes like change the scramble,

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the scramble who goes on the desk because some people

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:40.439
<v Speaker 1>might be calling matches or whatever, and I'm not sure

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>he was supposed to be there. At that time, but

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>he was available, and so you know, in some ways,

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:46.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure ESPN like, oh, it's great we can hear

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>from the coach of the player, and it's sort of great,

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:52.919
<v Speaker 1>but also a little bit awkward for people that are

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>working there. But look, the bottom line is, it's like,

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 1>in that situation, I just feel like my job is

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 1>to also tell people at home she's losing and why

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:06.359
<v Speaker 1>she lost that match. That's my job. And you know,

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Brad's a professional. He understands, he's not going to be

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't hold it against me. This is it's part

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>of the job. And if you know, Darren Yannick loses,

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure if Brad was on the desk with Darren

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 1>and he did nineteen double faults, he'd probably say, bro,

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you got to get your bro, you got to get

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 1>your player to not hit double nineteen double faults and

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>this is what I see that could improve, and you

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>would say, yeah, that's right. So I don't know.

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, it was.

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was brilliantly handled. I agree with Andrea's compliment.

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I think the chatter online that accompanied it was probably

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:40.959
<v Speaker 2>fell down along lines of, you know, people who are

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 2>looking for drama or looking for for there's no drama.

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 3>No, and there's clearly no drama.

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:47.240
<v Speaker 2>But I also think if you're going to have coaches,

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:51.800
<v Speaker 2>and this sport has sort of, you know, some interesting

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 2>relationships like Mary Joe Carrillo sorry, Mary Joe Fernandez is

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 2>married to the agent of Active Players.

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:00.759
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's all sorts of it's small world and

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 3>it's tangled.

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 2>So for me, it's a little bit more about if

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 2>you're going to have the coach there, then let's have

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the conversation. And you did, and I think that that

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 2>was what's great about it. For me, it's you know,

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:15.719
<v Speaker 2>you're you're explained to not have the conversation in front

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:18.399
<v Speaker 2>of a crowd of people who are watching feels irresponsible

0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 2>and he should be able to speak to it.

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 3>And I think he did. But I thought you made

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:22.319
<v Speaker 3>great point.

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I think Mary Joe does a good job because Mary

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Joe's husband is the agent of Coco. But I think

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Mary Joey does a good job of actually still criticizing.

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I think she does you and I think not criticized,

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't explain yes going And I think, just to

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 1>make myself clear, because I don't know if I did

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I think they.

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I think it's great.

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:43.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm actually not on the on the wagon of we

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:47.640
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't have coaches commentate, because I think it adds incredible inside.

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:50.280
<v Speaker 4>I think what I want to say in this particular moment.

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 4>I think Brett should be interviewed by Chris McHenry, for example, separately,

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 4>so he can explain, this is what we are working on,

0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 4>and he's not going to give everything away, of course not,

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 4>but he can give some sort of insight, and then

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 4>in a separate segment they can have an analyst, whether

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:10.400
<v Speaker 4>that's you or Mary Joe or whoever. An separate analyst

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 4>feel freely about talking what they think from a mutual stamp,

0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 4>but without being emotionally involved. So I don't I'm not

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:19.880
<v Speaker 4>on the thing that Brett shouldn't be on TV or

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:20.560
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't coach.

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 3>I think it's great that we have both.

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:25.359
<v Speaker 4>I just think that he you know, I think they

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't have put you together. And I have worked in

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 4>TV two and sometimes you can plan it that way.

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 4>That's like part of the madness of a Grand Slam tournament,

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:37.359
<v Speaker 4>where everything seems to be happening always at the same time,

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:39.360
<v Speaker 4>or nothing at all for some reason.

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Around doing nothing or we are non stop.

0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy ye anyway, for me, the last thing I'll

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 2>say about it as the most sort of neutral party

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.240
<v Speaker 2>here and somebody who's not commentated matches or coach anyone

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 2>is I learned so much more when I hear people

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:57.399
<v Speaker 2>who are coaches and understand I agree so much. Whether

0:50:57.440 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I agree with what they're saying or fit passes the

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 2>smell test, it feels defensive either way, Like coaching and

0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 2>tactics and improving are all things that anybody watching tennis

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:07.920
<v Speaker 2>can take away from a conversation like that, And for

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:09.800
<v Speaker 2>that reason, I like it, even if it's not necessarily

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.920
<v Speaker 2>something I agree with. Like I think, just as you

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 2>were saying about Taylor Fritz and Michael Russell sparking his

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 2>player at the time, like we underestimate. I think how

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:20.239
<v Speaker 2>much having a good team around you and having the

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 2>right tactics and working on the right stuff can help

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Arina Sbleka to go back to her Not only did

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:28.839
<v Speaker 2>she personally defeat ghost after ghost of her past US

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:31.919
<v Speaker 2>Open tournaments, but also she sort of now famously because

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 2>it was captured really well in Breakpoint, has this incredibly positive,

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 2>forward looking, supportive team of bald men who were just

0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 2>surrounding her with like love and positivity, and it's so

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 2>clear that it's fueling the good parts of her and

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:47.400
<v Speaker 2>not letting her dwell in the past. So I think

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 2>for me, it's a huge component of the game that

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 2>I love hearing about, and for that reason, I love

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 2>that it became a topic of discussion.

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:54.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, whether people agreed or not, well.

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I might both happy anyway.

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, I think I think it was good to

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 4>be so and also to be fair good TV. Sometimes

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 4>it is also that, you know, sometimes we see you

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 4>too morally.

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're never going to get that from me kind

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of anyway. Listen. So I want to get to is

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 1>there any other things about the US open that you

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 1>would like to discuss? Because I got some questions that

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 1>were sent in on Twitter. So do you want to

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:17.440
<v Speaker 1>get to the.

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay? Well, really, the hats are good.

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 3>The merchant needs every.

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I think it needs to be The merch

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>is similar every year, so they need to have a.

0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Different line if it's getting better. But I think the

0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:31.279
<v Speaker 3>merchant better.

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I did see someone with the tennis whore, actually a

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:35.919
<v Speaker 1>couple of people with the tennis hor T shirt from

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Racket and I gotta say it's two thumbs up. There

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 1>was also a woman, oh man, I meant to bring

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 1>her card that gave me a really cool T shirt.

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that. She came up to me at

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and gave me her card and the whole thing.

0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:50.320
<v Speaker 1>And it's a tennis court stuff. Thanks for that T shirt.

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 1>That was very cool. And I know I should have

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 1>brought the card to but she she'll know if she

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>listens to the pot, she'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

0:52:56.680 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>But let's get to a couple of questions. Is that okay? Yeah,

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:03.359
<v Speaker 1>the schedule. Phil wants to know the schedule. Why can't

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>they start at six pm?

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 3>That's my question always? Why can they?

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:09.360
<v Speaker 1>And why don't they start at eleven am so the

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>long day matches don't run into the night session.

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but what I don't understand. I honestly don't know.

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Why can they I don't need to, I don't know.

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:20.880
<v Speaker 1>So that's something that we need to get fixed.

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Tickets would not get anybody in the stands because everyone's

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 2>waiting for work to be done to come out to

0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Queen's and a text forever but I think doesn't matter.

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:32.799
<v Speaker 2>But seven five p sixty eight pm start is better

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:33.840
<v Speaker 2>than a two am finish.

0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and the women should always be first. Sorry, yeah,

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean I understand. Can't be going on

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a fucking match court. Like I had to say, I did.

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Both of those late matches, the latest one in history

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and the third latest one in history, started at eleven

0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:51.960
<v Speaker 1>something eleven fifty eleven eleven thirty. I mean, what are

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:52.879
<v Speaker 1>we talking about here?

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.880
<v Speaker 1>The latest the women are going to get on the men? Sorry,

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 1>after women's match, the latest would be ten o'clock. I

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:01.360
<v Speaker 1>mean three hour match at seven. Okay, that's possible in

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Norman's game, but that's ridiculous. Okay, how far in advance

0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:07.840
<v Speaker 1>do you know which matches you would be commentating on

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 1>ESPN as well as doing on court pre match blah

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:11.960
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. Also, looking back, is there a favorite match

0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you commented on and why? From Mike? From Michael Dickens,

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 1>What about you?

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 3>So I always about it? Yeah? I think so. I

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:20.960
<v Speaker 3>always find out.

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:24.320
<v Speaker 4>We get the schedule depending on how things went between

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 4>nine pm, which was on the early side, and ten

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 4>ten thirty, depend if it was like raining or matches

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 4>got canceled. It can be later, but I think around

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 4>the nine thirty ten pm mark is when I would

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 4>get my schedule and I get the two matches I

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.440
<v Speaker 4>will call and my favorite.

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:45.359
<v Speaker 3>So I always called two matches a day.

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how it is with you, and then

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:49.840
<v Speaker 4>my fate, and then I sometimes do extra stuff for Germany,

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:50.880
<v Speaker 4>which I did here.

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:54.279
<v Speaker 3>So I double people the thing yes, correct and King.

0:54:55.320 --> 0:54:56.080
<v Speaker 3>And then the.

0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 4>My favorite match to commentate and was the best match

0:55:01.120 --> 0:55:04.160
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion of the whole tournament was the Donavecage

0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 4>against chin Win.

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely the best women's match of the tournament was one

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:10.439
<v Speaker 1>that half the people that wanted to watch it didn't

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:13.880
<v Speaker 1>watch it because it was on till two fifteen am. Correct,

0:55:14.040 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 1>And there's no doubt that chin Win was struggled after

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 1>that playing sabal Anca. It was zero sleep and you

0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:21.880
<v Speaker 1>know her.

0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:22.839
<v Speaker 3>What is it?

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 1>The brain? What is it? Yes, it would have been

0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 1>all fucked up, like sorry, impossible anyway, So that is yeah.

0:55:30.280 --> 0:55:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I like that you post the schedule of when you're

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:35.240
<v Speaker 2>commentating because certain people myself included Lake, listening to specific

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:36.799
<v Speaker 2>matches knowing certain people are going to be.

0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:39.400
<v Speaker 3>On the castle. Please do that. The commentators, including you.

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do that for you same, I get it

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>abound eight o'clock. It depends on various things. But we

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 1>were starting to get it a lot earlier than we

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 1>used to. There were times when we wouldn't get our

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:51.319
<v Speaker 1>schedule until midnight and I'm like, what match am I

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:53.279
<v Speaker 1>doing tomorrow? I gotta go to sleep. But so I

0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:55.520
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that so much. But yes, we get it the

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:57.960
<v Speaker 1>day before, and then we prep for it that night

0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:00.440
<v Speaker 1>before the next day. I don't really prep That's a

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>whole different story, all right, scheduling. Why are we putting

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 1>best of three after best of five? Well, we just

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:08.400
<v Speaker 1>answered that question. We don't think that it should be.

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Do we say something nice about Guadalajara? They've been shuffled

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to a pretty dead slot for a five hundred, They

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:17.280
<v Speaker 1>have Ostapenko playing blah blah blah.

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I love Yeah, I'll say I'll say it if you

0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:25.640
<v Speaker 2>were bummed your favorite player, Daniel Collins got bounced.

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 3>The US Open. There's still tennis.

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.959
<v Speaker 2>Also, it helps cure my depression after the US Open

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 2>that they're still amazing tennis to be watched in a

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:35.760
<v Speaker 2>time zone that is not crazy like uh in Asia.

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 2>For example, if you're in America, so I will speak

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 2>to Guadalhara.

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:41.359
<v Speaker 3>I love it, and I think it's great. I think all.

0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes to interview about their plays while tournament is still

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:47.399
<v Speaker 1>taking place. Yes, so we're getting a lot of these

0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 1>sorts of things. But the bottom line is it's not

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 1>going away. We're still going to have coaches that are commentators.

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 3>And oh wait, so this person doesn't like that.

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, some people don't like it at all.

0:56:57.160 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think as long as we how do you

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:02.759
<v Speaker 3>feel about it? I think I like, like.

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 4>From a new I know that you like, but like

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 4>from a newtub person, you also think it's a problematic.

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it. I see the point that it's problematic.

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I personally like it because we get better insight as

0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 2>long as everyone's honest and people are are asking hard questions.

0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, LG. He says, what's being done with all

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the outburst and anger on the courts? It feels like

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 1>anger management is needed big time. Honey, that's called that's

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 1>being forever in a day.

0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:29.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I will agree that for some reason,

0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 4>it's been more and Cincinnati here I didn't feel that.

0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:34.000
<v Speaker 3>But remember last time we talked in Cincinnati.

0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:37.160
<v Speaker 4>There was one meltdown after another, So I think it

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 4>was with a big I think it had to do

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 4>with the Olympic year and having so many tournaments and

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 4>everyone being here.

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.200
<v Speaker 1>And also everyone's been losing their mind forever. I mean,

0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 1>do we not remember you cannot be serious kind of thought.

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 3>This was sort of a team tournament in terms of behavior. Yeah,

0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:52.320
<v Speaker 3>that's true.

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 1>It was also I have to say that.

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:56.400
<v Speaker 3>And I feel bad about it. It was kind of

0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 3>a bad tournament.

0:57:57.400 --> 0:57:58.640
<v Speaker 1>There were not a lot of Yeah, there wasn't a

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:00.720
<v Speaker 1>great Yeah last year was in this.

0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Year and you have that.

0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:03.960
<v Speaker 4>You have that sometimes you have a tournament where there

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 4>is one Remember at the Austraian.

0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Wimbledon was incredible this year, Yeah, Wimbledon was really good.

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.120
<v Speaker 4>But remember at the Austraian opened, we had that one

0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 4>day where everything happened and then the next day everyone

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:14.600
<v Speaker 4>lost one and all.

0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was weird because we felt like they were like,

0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, yesterday was so amazing. There were one

0:58:19.560 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 1>day there was one day that was tennis was at

0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the US. I was unbelievable, and then the next day

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:26.919
<v Speaker 1>it was like, yeah, so it happens. The bathroom break

0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:31.120
<v Speaker 1>obsession the freak out and pearl clutching. This is from Iree,

0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:35.560
<v Speaker 1>like this person is mad about people going off the

0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:38.880
<v Speaker 1>court for bathroom breaks. I see, I agree.

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Actually this person is an eager fan and they say

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 2>that it's freak out and pearl clutching when it's Egan

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:44.720
<v Speaker 2>silenced one of the plavias to do it. I do

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 2>think certain players who maybe don't have If people need

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 2>a reason not to like somebody, maybe it becomes more

0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:53.720
<v Speaker 2>like just felt like it was like, do we just

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:56.000
<v Speaker 2>not like this guy because he's just taking a bathroom break?

0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:56.560
<v Speaker 3>What's the big deal.

0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>There are absolutely some players that go off the court

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 1>when they don't need to, and they do it because

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I need a reset and it's in the within the roles.

0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:05.600
<v Speaker 1>So what are you gonna do about it? What do

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:06.280
<v Speaker 1>you think about it?

0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:08.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't like it when they lose a set in

0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:11.240
<v Speaker 4>twenty minutes and goes the key. That's what it annoys me.

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I went. However, do you know how many times I

0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:14.360
<v Speaker 1>went off the court?

0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Mean I never went. I will say I went once

0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 3>and I will tell you where.

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 4>And Kitlin will understand because she lived at Wimbledon in

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Guangzhou when it was ten billion the grace you can.

0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:26.520
<v Speaker 4>I've never been in a place that was humid. I

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:28.560
<v Speaker 4>think it wasn't one hundred percentument. I think it was

0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:29.800
<v Speaker 4>one hundred and twenty.

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:33.080
<v Speaker 3>My shoes were dripping and I was leaving.

0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:36.000
<v Speaker 1>That was saying on the sad plight the finals in Guangzhou,

0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:37.200
<v Speaker 1>and I had to change your shoes.

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:39.200
<v Speaker 4>So that was the only time in my life that

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:41.000
<v Speaker 4>I went off the court change my stuff.

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Twice once at Wimbledon because I had my yuna.

0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:44.440
<v Speaker 3>What that's what I mean. I don't want to.

0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:48.960
<v Speaker 4>I'd always give women because somebody was like, why it

0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:54.080
<v Speaker 4>was against Mokhova against hadatch Maya, and Mohova had won

0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 4>the first at six to one in twenty three minutes,

0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 4>and somebody asked me, why is she going to the aroom?

1:00:00.400 --> 1:00:03.440
<v Speaker 4>And I always say I would never say anything about

1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:06.600
<v Speaker 4>a woman going after the bathroom because you don't know.

1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't know. It's the one time when I

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:09.720
<v Speaker 1>ran off the court. The other time was in a

1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:11.840
<v Speaker 1>warm up at the US Open when I had to

1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:14.880
<v Speaker 1>go number two so bad, and that I wasn't.

1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Talking about it.

1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure.

1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't sure if I was or if it was

1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:21.480
<v Speaker 3>just gudy with women.

1:00:21.640 --> 1:00:23.520
<v Speaker 4>With women, I think we have to be a little

1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:24.960
<v Speaker 4>bit careful with approaching.

1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Listen, if anybody who's a lady who has a uter

1:00:28.200 --> 1:00:30.320
<v Speaker 2>spons to go after the bathroom, then I don't ask

1:00:30.360 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 2>any questions.

1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, you girls. We've been asked a lot in

1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:39.920
<v Speaker 1>questions about the curious situation and his misogyny on Twitter

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:43.720
<v Speaker 1>and what you think about it. And I will say this, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say this as someone who worked with

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<v Speaker 1>him at ESPN. He is an incredible analyst. He's his

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is a plus, and he's and when he commentates

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<v Speaker 1>the women and I've sat next to him when we

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<v Speaker 1>when we're having to commentate about a women's match, he's

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<v Speaker 1>very respectful for the players. I'm going to put that

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<v Speaker 1>out there. He speaks very highly of all the women players.

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<v Speaker 1>He never says no, I mean because the next is coming, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the other stuff is coming. But when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>talking about them playing, he's very very positive about them.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not like, oh she's so slow, or she can't

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<v Speaker 1>eat a serve, or this sucks this tennis doesn't do

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<v Speaker 1>any of that. He's very very positive about it. The

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff not good thoughts substack.

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<v Speaker 3>My I have. I wrote it down.

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<v Speaker 4>I think writing is always easier because you can exactly

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<v Speaker 4>pinpoint what you want to say, but I will try

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<v Speaker 4>in words as well and speaking I think that I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's sad, That's what I think. It makes me sad.

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<v Speaker 4>It really it doesn't. I thought it made me angry,

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<v Speaker 4>but now thinking about it, it makes me sad because

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<v Speaker 4>I think he could be a fantastic TV personality period.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's already a great analyst, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>he could be a fantastic TV personality in general. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's self sabotaging and hurting himself with the

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<v Speaker 4>he puts out there on social media. The reason I

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<v Speaker 4>say that is yesterday, I don't know if you guys

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<v Speaker 4>watched Tom Brady's first day on the NFL, so if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have heard me, was watching the WNBI game, and so he.

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<v Speaker 4>Got so much hate, and kind of rightfully so, because

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<v Speaker 4>in the first quarter he sounded unsure of what he

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<v Speaker 4>was saying, even though he clearly knows exactly what he's

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<v Speaker 4>talking about. He's the best guy who's ever played this game.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the best quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know from people that they have rented a

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<v Speaker 4>facility in Orlando, Florida for him to practice every day there.

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<v Speaker 4>So they've been training, giving him, I think, and asted

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<v Speaker 4>like a ridiculous amount of money, just calling old football

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<v Speaker 4>games for him to practice and giving different play by place.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I've heard. I don't have the confirmation, but

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I heard. And the reason he got so

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<v Speaker 4>much hate was because people were like, why does he

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<v Speaker 4>because he would always go up with his voice.

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<v Speaker 3>In the end and he sounded unsure. Yes he sounded unsure.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not unsure, but he sounded unsure, and there is

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<v Speaker 3>a disconnect. And the one that I think that.

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<v Speaker 4>Was a great shot cross card Chriss Court, but he

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<v Speaker 4>almost asked it like a question. So he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>he did that play and he's like, Tom, are you

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<v Speaker 4>asking us or are you stated yeah, exactly. And so

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<v Speaker 4>what I why I bring up this example is the

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<v Speaker 4>sound of his voice on TV sounded like he didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know what he was talking about, even though the reality

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<v Speaker 4>is a different one. But this disconnect people who are

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<v Speaker 4>watching TV cannot put together. And all I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 4>for Nick Curios, why he needs to be careful. At

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<v Speaker 4>one point, what he writes with his online persona will

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<v Speaker 4>create a disconnect to what he says on air, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's when he gets into problems because right now people

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<v Speaker 4>most people already I seen many that are like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to watch when Curios is on, even though

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<v Speaker 4>he's really good, and I think many people will start

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<v Speaker 4>to not believe him when he says respectful things about

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<v Speaker 4>women's tennis, and that's where his problem is, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>why he needs to be careful. And it frankly makes

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<v Speaker 4>me sad because he's a great talent for broadcasting and

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<v Speaker 4>I wish he was in tennis, and I wish he

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<v Speaker 4>would make the sport cooler and bring in more young

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<v Speaker 4>people to watch. And he's a good analyst, but he

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<v Speaker 4>needs to be careful and it makes me sad.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what I want to say about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have much to end to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're completely right retweeting Andrew Tate is saying something,

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<v Speaker 2>whether he's intending to or not. And I think when

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<v Speaker 2>you get elevated to being the voice of a tennis broadcast,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's somebody's you know, if it's somebody's first

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<v Speaker 2>tennis match, if they're watching it and they associate you

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<v Speaker 2>with the sort of stuff that I don't think he

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<v Speaker 2>would want to be associated with it. It's unnecessary and

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, he owes himself and this is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of where he I think got into trouble as

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<v Speaker 2>a player. He doesn't take himself seriously enough, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a little bit of the issue, like training,

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<v Speaker 2>getting a coach, doing all the things that you as

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<v Speaker 2>a player, who I think, from what I could see,

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<v Speaker 2>is probably one of the most prepared people not only

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<v Speaker 2>on the court but also now off as a broadcaster,

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<v Speaker 2>like have have the self respect to do this really

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<v Speaker 2>with full intent and effort, because you'll be incredible at it,

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<v Speaker 2>as he was at times on the tennis court. So

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it's I think there's something self defeating and

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<v Speaker 2>I think so a little bit performative that just let

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<v Speaker 2>it go, dude, like little self sabotaging.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, self sabotaging.

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<v Speaker 4>And I wish you would because if you think about

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<v Speaker 4>it back and I mean, I'm not going to get

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<v Speaker 4>into sex lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of stuff that's it's dumb, like you just sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's amount of times I've written stuff on Twitter and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, nah, I know I've matured, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, this is not a good this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a good look, this is do I really need

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<v Speaker 1>to put this out there? And then I just delete it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he has a hot time doing.

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<v Speaker 4>That well, and I think the self sabotaging comes back

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<v Speaker 4>to hurt him nobody else because people will move on

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<v Speaker 4>and they will forget. Well, actually now people don't forget anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>which is another.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's there forever and they screenshot it. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if you delayed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's another problem.

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<v Speaker 4>But in general terms, they don't go through life and think, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>remember what Nick wrote on Twitter or ex or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't.

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<v Speaker 4>But for him, it's sad because that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 4>he did as a tennis player too. He would play

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<v Speaker 4>amazing and then he would self sabotage by a single

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<v Speaker 4>situation that he couldn't handle. And I hope for him

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<v Speaker 4>as a human being, whether you like him or not,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope for him that he can overcome this because

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<v Speaker 4>he could have a stellar career without all this and

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<v Speaker 4>all this noise. And I think for him life would

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<v Speaker 4>be also easier if he didn't have to wake up

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<v Speaker 4>in the morning and face the controversy all the time,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just wish him that he can overcome that

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<v Speaker 4>for himself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's you know, I've discussed this with

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<v Speaker 1>you both, and I just think sometimes with Nick, the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is he was I'm convinced as a child he

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<v Speaker 1>was bullied quite significantly. He was grew up quite heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was fat. You look at the photos

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<v Speaker 1>of him as a kid. He was dark skinned in Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>so he would have he was bullied a lot as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid in Australia. And I think now that he's older,

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<v Speaker 1>he's sort of turned that into that sometimes, So he's

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<v Speaker 1>gone from facing that as a kid to turning and

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<v Speaker 1>being that way. Which is why he's great with kids,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think he sees himself in the kids to

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<v Speaker 1>not bully children or be so good with kids. He's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing with kids.

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<v Speaker 3>But this I have to interrupt you.

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<v Speaker 4>You never punch down, and you punching on women's tennis

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<v Speaker 4>is punching fucking down. Because you can talk about equality

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<v Speaker 4>and equal prize money, women's tennis is not equal to

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<v Speaker 4>men's tennis and almost all factors.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though we tried.

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<v Speaker 4>And could we say, shitting on women's tennis is punching down.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you don't punch down to a kid, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't punch down to women's den Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>What I have to say and.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say about women's be wondered is in.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single women's sports. You're the one who's in WNBA

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<v Speaker 3>because you go to all.

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<v Speaker 1>Women's sports and you are kind of don't No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not giving you a pass. I'm trying to have you understand

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<v Speaker 1>why he does the dumb, shitty house. I'm not give

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<v Speaker 1>him no pass.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think, yes, when people are bullied and

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<v Speaker 2>I into a bully, then it's a sign of an

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<v Speaker 2>emotional immaturity and it's a punching down.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just about women's tennis.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. The remarks have been about other women women

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<v Speaker 2>tennis players, and it's just sort of like, grow the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck up, dude, grow up like nobody's impressed with your

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm trying hard not to look like I'm trying hard,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why I'm wearing a hoodie and a hat

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<v Speaker 2>even though it looks stupid, Like, come on, just grow up.

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<v Speaker 2>You owe it to yourself as a human being. As

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying and also to the rest of your professional

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<v Speaker 2>peers to be the best analyst and to be the

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<v Speaker 2>best person that they can count on as a coworker,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're putting them in danger. Actually, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tweet stuff about another player's girlfriend, and it's just your

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<v Speaker 2>performance has now outlived its self shelf date, but also

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<v Speaker 2>you're now affecting the other people that you now work with.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that to me is like, if he

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<v Speaker 2>can get over that, and if he can get past it,

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<v Speaker 2>then yes, he'll be an incredible boon to the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>He's charismatic, he's funny, he's a good analyst, as you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think at a certain point your choices are

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<v Speaker 2>affecting more than just you on a court.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just you tanking on a court. So you

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<v Speaker 3>get to be done and find an emotional bailout.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, you're you're gonna have to sit next to the

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<v Speaker 2>people who know that you tweeted Andrew Tait or tweeted

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<v Speaker 2>about another woman on the tour, and they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to try to take you seriously and probably have some

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<v Speaker 2>conversations behind closed doors apologizing for you or maybe trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make the case to keep you around, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just think, like, that's not how you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>as a as a person, as a colleague, as a coworker,

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<v Speaker 2>as a man, and not up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well that's not really good point, because no, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a really good point because the biggest transition from tennis

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<v Speaker 4>player to post tennis player is you start to work

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<v Speaker 4>in teams. It's not and yes you have a team

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<v Speaker 4>as a tennis player, but they cater to your needs

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<v Speaker 4>you pay them.

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<v Speaker 1>To, and then you have to start like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because see what he said about Sinna, you had to

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<v Speaker 1>like there was avoidance with like the cineer matches and

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<v Speaker 1>all this sort of stuff. So it's just like it puts,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, Caitlin, it puts everybody who's working with

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<v Speaker 1>him in a bit of a bind. The women's doubles,

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<v Speaker 1>we forgot to say, what a great effort from Kitchenok

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<v Speaker 1>and Ostapenko to win that in Kitchenock from Ukraine, like

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<v Speaker 1>to see her win that doubles and the double kit

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<v Speaker 1>on match point that they did the VR var and

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<v Speaker 1>said no, it's a double hit. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe we're getting a var on match point of

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<v Speaker 1>the women's doubles and then they got it right, thank god,

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<v Speaker 1>because they got one wrong. But that was great to see.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to throw that out there.

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<v Speaker 3>And Nadia and Kitchen had to push her wedding back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so funny. She's like, we're supposed to get

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<v Speaker 1>married four days ago and Wednesday, so that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, if you go out to the

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<v Speaker 1>US Open next year and you get your honey deuces,

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<v Speaker 1>remember I told everyone to get a double. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I will tell you. Get to get a double,

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<v Speaker 1>not just one shot of vodka. Or this is the

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<v Speaker 1>secret of secrets thanks to Serena Williams. Get it with tequila.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we always get it with sequila. It's much better.

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck? How of me, a tequila drinking lover,

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<v Speaker 1>not realize that? And I have the tequila in the

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<v Speaker 1>honeyduce and it is seven billion times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought that was an open secrets.

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<v Speaker 4>We always we go to a bar to celebrate my

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<v Speaker 4>birth later on my midday they do the honeydews with tequila.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, let me tell you something. That's the winner

1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:08.559
<v Speaker 1>for me. And they make a lot of money with

1:11:08.680 --> 1:11:12.880
<v Speaker 1>those bloody honeyduces. The tournament was incredible. It was packed.

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<v Speaker 1>We have tennis fans out the wazoo that want to

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<v Speaker 1>come every year. I do want to throw out a

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to Odaman Piquet. I'm wearing their watch still

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to sadly give it back tomorrow. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to shut out sponsors, I'll take I mean listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if they would give me this watch, I would keep

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<v Speaker 1>it forever. But sadly I have to give it back

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<v Speaker 1>next week tomorrow actually, But I want to thank them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to thank Argent they gave me a

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<v Speaker 1>nice couple of outfits and cal Meyer Danielle Kalmyer. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it was it became oh my god, I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>up my game every day now because people were making

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<v Speaker 1>comments about moutfits, I was like shit, I felt pressure

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<v Speaker 1>every day. So hey, listen, people out there, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to give me some mouthfits next year, I'll take them.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you, pet Go Because you got a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of love as well on the old intranet in

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<v Speaker 1>the social media.

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<v Speaker 4>I lived that expectation every day of your life. Because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a fashion That's what you have to cope with.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your fashion expert. We're wrapping it up. Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I got for you, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You happy, I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for coming over to my apartment, uh to do

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast. And also I will say I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>cool that the tennis players are now as the commentators

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<v Speaker 2>have started to do, are doing essentially tunnel locks with

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<v Speaker 2>their fits. So everyone's game from spectator the player to commentator.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like fashion wise has really stepped up.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we talk about podcast? Okay, pass take about.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's pass on that. If anyone ever comes out with

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<v Speaker 1>a large bow on a tennis cone again, no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's an absolute two thumbs down. There's only one person

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<v Speaker 1>that's pulled that ship off through her career, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was Serena.

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<v Speaker 4>But still also would have looked crazy on everybody. I

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<v Speaker 4>think Naomi also worried.

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<v Speaker 3>Willy, I mean, so unique and whatever, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you buying? Are you, as a consumer of a

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<v Speaker 1>tennis outfit, going to buy a big boat on it tennis?

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<v Speaker 4>So I know from Adidas when they made Zebra outfits. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>So when they made them, they said they strict, they

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<v Speaker 4>were not sure because they do all these testing and

1:13:22.000 --> 1:13:24.439
<v Speaker 4>they weren't sure whether people will buy it, but they

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<v Speaker 4>did that to create a social media buzz.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Nike, Nike needs up its game because it's

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<v Speaker 1>getting eaten alive right now by a lot of other competitors.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know those Yoga Moto two years of

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<v Speaker 2>Friendship and kids. The Zebras and also the black with

1:13:39.439 --> 1:13:43.680
<v Speaker 2>the flowers are extremely hard to find and very very

1:13:44.680 --> 1:13:45.280
<v Speaker 2>retail market.

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<v Speaker 1>I also loved Matthew McConaughey voicing over the teasers for

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN in the last couple of days. It was nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what is happening? He was very cringe am

1:13:54.360 --> 1:14:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I cringing and on the on the video or in person, like.

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<v Speaker 4>His whole thing and during the final with the weird

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<v Speaker 4>hand gesturing and the Bendah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well I didn't I didn't really see. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching the Liberys.

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<v Speaker 4>When I go to things with my dad and he

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<v Speaker 4>behaves and you're like, oh my god, I'm d up

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<v Speaker 4>embarrassing me, That's how I felt about about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I was at the Liberty Aces game yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't even watch a lot of the men's match.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching it. That's not true. I watched it

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<v Speaker 1>in the Crown.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was the uncle in Napoleon Dynamite who does the

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<v Speaker 2>nunchucks at the gas station.

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<v Speaker 3>It was giving.

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<v Speaker 1>That and a shout out to everyone that retired. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>uncle Rico, I want to give a shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who also retired at the US Open Schwartzman, Danielle Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>Shelby Rodgers, Dominic team. Yeah, Donald Young made the finals

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<v Speaker 1>and mixers out of the blue, but I'm sorry for

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<v Speaker 1>him that his last match was also his probably his

1:14:54.400 --> 1:14:59.760
<v Speaker 1>worst match she did. But frankly, can we shout out

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<v Speaker 1>so around by far? She's so good, the best player

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<v Speaker 1>on the court because she knows how to play doubles.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the ball low well, folly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it was so.

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<v Speaker 1>Refreshing to watch. She cannot serve the fucking ship, but

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<v Speaker 1>she knows how to hit the ball in certain spots

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<v Speaker 1>on a doubles court. So watch her play doubles because

1:15:20.720 --> 1:15:23.479
<v Speaker 1>that's how you win doubles matches. People. It was so frustrating,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, put me back out their coach.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's a fucking competitor. She was yelling at and.

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<v Speaker 1>When he didn't hit the ball to give them two

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<v Speaker 1>match points. She went ballistic on him, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like like throwing her arms up like what. She was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, get your head out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, I love that because he had been in

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<v Speaker 4>two finals this year and couldn't make it, and so

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<v Speaker 4>he was getting so nervous and she was like, metaphorically speaking,

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<v Speaker 4>she grabbed him by the shoulders, shook him like somebody

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<v Speaker 4>by the balls, grabbed him by the shoulders, shook him

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<v Speaker 4>like somebody should have shook Matthew mcconnicky.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and you pull yourself to go pull yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was, I like, OK. When he literally poached

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<v Speaker 1>she hit the great return. It was obviously that they

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<v Speaker 1>were switching at the net, that he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>go she was going to cover the line. It was

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly played. He has the easiest volley in the world

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<v Speaker 1>and he lets it go and at lands on foot

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<v Speaker 1>inside the baseline. I'm like, bro, I have done that

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<v Speaker 1>move seven billion times, And even if I thought maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to go out, I still hit the

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<v Speaker 1>volley because I'm like, I'm not missing this volley, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>the chances are it might go in, I'd rather hit

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<v Speaker 1>the volley. I couldn't believe he didn't hit the watching

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<v Speaker 1>two women with two guys that were shitting themselves. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give them credit because neither of those two guys

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<v Speaker 1>had won a slam. Taylor won Wimbledon doubles, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course the Runnie is one, you know, eleven golden career

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<v Speaker 1>she does. But but my god, that was hilarious to

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<v Speaker 1>watch her.

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<v Speaker 3>He can play doubles. He was.

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<v Speaker 1>Had his tits on the net, and people forget that

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<v Speaker 1>you can lob. You can lob. You know that in

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<v Speaker 1>doubles you can lob just everyone else.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, you can't. I definitely can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hit like the Aussie boys that won the double.

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<v Speaker 1>The maximum hide that go above the net is an inch.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I don't even I'm not quite sure what

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<v Speaker 4>an just because I work and can.

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<v Speaker 1>But Vavasory did one thing really well in that match.

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<v Speaker 1>He made an incredible reflex on match point. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing. He was over Tailor and he made

1:17:33.160 --> 1:17:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that reflex and that's what won in the tournaments. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of like, oh, he made up for

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<v Speaker 1>not hitting a fu forehand on top of the net.

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<v Speaker 1>How you finish anyway? All right, guys, finish. We're finishing strong.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to celebrate your birthday and uh York and

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<v Speaker 3>everybody who worked. Let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm so sad it's over, but I'm also in

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<v Speaker 1>need of a serious medcake. So on that note, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining me again. Ladies, I love I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>guys choose back.