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Speaker 1: Oh, a great time. I watched Tepper such times up.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to one five on a great Wednesday afternoon. It's

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Speaker 1: spectacular outside and we're happy to be back on the air.

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Speaker 1: We missed a day yesterday because of all the Sabers news.

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Speaker 1: for me, it wasn't an afternoon off. I was catching

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Speaker 1: what you get for being a reporter for both clubs.

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Speaker 1: That's what you get for being a reporter for Bills

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Speaker 1: and Sabers. He just it never stops. Just call name,

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Speaker 1: I'll do it all. It's unbelievable now that we have

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Yeah, there's always something to

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Speaker 1: again today, Mattiste. We're here till three one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: We've got a ton of guests today. We've got a

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Speaker 1: Patriots as well. One PM. The senior the vice president.

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Speaker 1: guys coming on with us at one o'clock today. We got,

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Speaker 1: who will make the biggest impact in twenty twenty, um,

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Speaker 1: it's easier for me to conjure up some fantasy thing

431
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: where Zach Moss kicks the winning kick or Tyler Bass

432
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: kicks the winning kick in in the you know, dying

433
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Speaker 1: seconds of the Super Bowl, right to win it. That's

434
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Speaker 1: the biggest impact you could possibly have, Right, But it's

435
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: just as easy to see Zach Moss scoring in the

436
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Speaker 1: final seconds of a Super Bowl, or or a j

437
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Speaker 1: Epenezza getting a sack strip umble, all of these rookie

438
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: It's fun too, because I was on a team where

439
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,239
Speaker 1: we had a couple three or four draft picks who

440
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: came in as rookies and all of a sudden, you know,

441
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: they're playing in the Super Bowl with us, Right. That's

442
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: fun to think about some of these young players that

443
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: we haven't even got a chance to really meet yet

444
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Speaker 1: coming in and being a part of Bill's history that

445
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: early in their in their careers. But it could happen

446
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: for these guys, you know, certainly in a year like

447
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: this where the roster is stacked with with talent, and

448
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: these guys really aren't asked to do a ton. I

449
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: don't think any of them are expected to come in

450
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Speaker 1: and step on the field and start for this team,

451
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: which means, you know, how are you to construe you know,

452
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: your scenario in your head or where these guys are

453
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: going to fit in. You know, as a Japan isn't

454
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: going to be a rotational guy early in the season

455
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: to rotate into a bigger role later in the season,

456
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Speaker 1: as Zach mossk going to start the same way that

457
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Speaker 1: Devin Singletary did last year. He starts out and maybe

458
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: nicked up with an injury or whatever. Then in the

459
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: second half of the season, he's the guy. Could see

460
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: that Tyler Bass, I mean a kicker good grief. If

461
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: he makes the squad, he can't help but contribute. And

462
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Speaker 1: if he's the starting kicker, like if Stephen houshgood doesn't

463
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Speaker 1: hold on to his job. If Zach Moss comes I mean,

464
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Speaker 1: if Tyler Bass comes in and doesn't miss a kick,

465
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Speaker 1: how do they let him go? How do they release him?

466
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Speaker 1: So you know, you can it's easy to say Tyler

467
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Speaker 1: Bass would be the guy that you know, he's the

468
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: guy that's kicking all the extra points. He's the guy

469
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Speaker 1: that's kicking the field goals to send it to overtime

470
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Speaker 1: or to win games, or throughout a game he goes,

471
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Speaker 1: you know, four or five on field goals and they

472
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Speaker 1: win by a point or three points. He's that's his contribution.

473
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Speaker 1: Easy to see that for Tyler Bass. But by the

474
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Speaker 1: same token, he's probably got the most difficult job of

475
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Speaker 1: making the roster as well, so I don't know that

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Speaker 1: that he'll be able to get that done. So I

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Speaker 1: think the best chance for one of these guys, the

478
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Speaker 1: guy with the best chance to contribute, he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss. I think he's gonna make the first he

480
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna make it, and secondly, if he does

481
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Speaker 1: make it, he's gonna get a lot of opportunities with

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Speaker 1: the ball in his hands to make a difference. So

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Speaker 1: I think he's the best guests for most of this um,

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Speaker 1: you know, for who's gonna be in a spot where

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Speaker 1: they will make the most difference for their team, And

486
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Speaker 1: so that's who I would go with. I would go

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Speaker 1: with Zach Moss just because of the probability that he's

488
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Speaker 1: gonna be on the field with the ball in his

489
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Speaker 1: hands a ton. So I'm I'm gonna say Zach Moss myself.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you look at the Twitter poll,

491
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Speaker 1: fifty eight percent of the respondents say, yeah, that's who

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be too. Because of that, I just think

493
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Speaker 1: you got to see him with the ball in his hands. Definitely.

494
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Speaker 1: I completely agree he's gonna He's definitely gonna get the

495
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Speaker 1: most touches. I think in his rookie season. You think

496
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Speaker 1: how many times they put a running back on the field.

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Speaker 1: He'll definitely be there in snap count. I think he'll

498
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Speaker 1: also be there in touches. Yeah, I do too, all right,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Matti glad. We're here till three o'clock. We've

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Speaker 1: got Fred Smurlis coming on after the break. We've got

501
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Speaker 1: Troy Vincent, NFL executive vice president of football Operations, coming

502
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: on at one pm. And at two pm. Greg Rosenthal two,

503
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: he's the NFL dot Com around the National Football League Editor.

504
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We are presented by Kalidah

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Speaker 1: Health and this is One Bills Live, Bills Live, not

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. We are still at home. We're

507
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Speaker 1: hoping soon that we can be back in the offices.

508
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: Time will tell. We're hoping these players can get their

509
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Speaker 1: butts back in the facility soon. Training camp right around

510
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Speaker 1: the corner. Sean McDermott just spoke to the local media

511
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Speaker 1: about wrapping up the off season. They will kind of

512
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: go into the next few weeks. It'll be a little

513
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: bit more dead before training camp vamps up in July.

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Speaker 1: We're excited about it. Mattie Glab waiting for Steve Tasker,

515
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: my friend, to join me again. We both had to

516
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: do a computer reset in the break here. Steve's computer froze.

517
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: My computer was making a really weird sound. So we

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Speaker 1: are back on and happy to be with you guys,

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00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: and we are also happy to be joined by Fred's Murillas,

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00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: one of a the former Buffalo Bills, who is doing

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00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: something really cool to honor Ben Williams who passed away

522
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: last month. Another former Bill. Steve is very close with

523
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Speaker 1: both of these guys, so hopefully Steve can get back on.

524
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: But Fred, thank you for joining us. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: taking the time. Well, thank you for giving me the

526
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: time to point out a great man and you know

527
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: a lot of players at that era when they passed

528
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: away and Lava family, they didn't make a lot of money,

529
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: you're not like today. They're being taken care of. So

530
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: it's nice. A lot of the bills are out there

531
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: donating money. You're allowing me to come on and talk

532
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: about a little bit. Ben Williams an unbelievable player, unbelievable

533
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: friend and teammates, So thank you. And yeah, Task is

534
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: probably finishing his cheerios or something whatever he eased right.

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00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: I don't know where he went. Actually he is just

536
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: joining on right now. He had some computer problems. We're

537
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: all in this time of a virtual period, virtual offseason

538
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: where everything is over Skype and over Zoom and we're

539
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: all trying to figure it out. So Steve is joint

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00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: back with us there. Hey, I didn't realize you guys

541
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: eying the booth together again. Now we're not. We're not

542
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: back into the studio yet. We'll get there sooner or

543
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: later though, Well you know, I'll just put a protest

544
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: side up and you can go in. Okay, But I

545
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: think its with with being in with somebody makes it

546
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: much easier to you know, to get and as you're

547
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: going that's tough. Yeah, well we do have. Like I said,

548
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: I just popped back on because my computer absolutely froze

549
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: up right at the last break. But we can see

550
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: each other. We can't see you, but we can see

551
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: each other, which is probably better for us. Yeah, thinking

552
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: about all, Yeah, exactly, That's what I'm feeling. Hey, I

553
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: wanted to We asked to have you on because one

554
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: of our one of your former teammates and a guy

555
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: who I'm acquainted with, Ben Williams rest his soul, passed

556
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: away recently and he was he was suffering from some

557
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: physical ailments and it kind of brought to highlights some

558
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: of the things. And I don't I don't want to

559
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: be morbid or anything, but most you know, some NFL

560
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: football players, a lot of NFL football players have something

561
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: that they carry around with them from their playing days.

562
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: Don't know if if that was all that you could

563
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: attribute Ben Williams illness too, but uh, his passing brought

564
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: to light some of the issues that are facing former

565
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: players and his former teammates. You included had put a

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Speaker 1: go fund Me page on not for his funeral costs

567
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: for his family. Um, the trad that happened surrounding his

568
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: death and the circumstance, Why don't you just give us

569
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: a quick synopsis of the go fund meat page that

570
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: you and some of your teammate former teammates have put together.

571
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: Well we put it together myself and Chris Keening, member

572
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: Christopher Keening, Baby Johnson and my opinion, but everybody that

573
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: we talked to was you know, was on board. And

574
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: what happens Steve, you know that he back that in

575
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Speaker 1: that error, they didn't make a lot of money, you know,

576
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: I went a little bit beyond that, made a little

577
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: bit more than they did. But Benny was suffering with

578
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: dementia very early, probably in his late fifties, and we

579
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: took a group of players down to Jackson, Mississippi, he

580
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Speaker 1: see how he was doing, and spent a few days

581
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Speaker 1: with him, and he once he got around the players,

582
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Speaker 1: he was a little bit better, you know, because he

583
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: was getting memories of the past, so he was really good.

584
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Speaker 1: And then the last time he came up was I

585
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: think last year to the alumni the big alumni event

586
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Speaker 1: we had, And what happened Benny was was went home

587
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: afterwards felt a little bit better and he actually made

588
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: breakfast early in the morning and unfortunately the house caught

589
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: on fire and burnt down, and he didn't the insurance

590
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: path he didn't he didn't pay for the insurance, so

591
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: the house wasn't covered for the repairing it and they

592
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: had to get out of there with all their assets

593
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: and whatever was left. I mean, the dog died. Everything

594
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: went right, I mean that the rector. But really, because

595
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: what happened was because of the effects of the dementia.

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00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't he shouldn't have have been making

597
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: breakfast that morning. He should have he should have remembered

598
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: to pay some bill, you know, that kind of thing,

599
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden because of the effects of

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Speaker 1: the sickness and the illness that he was suffering from,

601
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now that he's gone, the rest

602
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: of the family suffering from um, what happened because of

603
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: his illness that they may have had nothing to do with. Yeah,

604
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: and his wife did a great job. You know, Benny

605
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: was a big man and she was trying to She

606
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: used to keep him out of the kitchen. He just

607
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: happened to go into the kitchen and you're like, you said,

608
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: he forgot everything. I mean, it was it was terrible,

609
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: and uh, the league now has done a lot of

610
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: things to help out, you know, with the hitting and

611
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: the and the the practices back in the old days,

612
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: remember with the hitting on the day and everything else.

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00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: They limit that, which is great, But there is a

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00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: a lot of guys out there with the menta that

615
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: having trouble. And you know, it's great that Benny has

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Speaker 1: some teammates and friends to out there trying to make

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00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: money for him to take care of his family. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're with fred Smerlas, Freddy, and I appreciate what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: And also you're right, the league does try and now

620
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: after so long, he's trying to reach back and help

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Speaker 1: some of these guys who have been affected by it.

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Speaker 1: It was a different world back then, and with full

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Speaker 1: contact pat practices, six weeks of training camp, two a

624
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: day practices for weeks on end and uh and obviously

625
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: the physical toll that it takes on players is evident

626
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: in guys like Ben Williams and others like him, and

627
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: the further they get into and I guess it's the

628
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: new CBA will help, but you know, for some of

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Speaker 1: these guys, it's just it's just a little too late.

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Speaker 1: I mean guys, you know, guys like you and I

631
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: are the ones that kind of it may help a

632
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: little bit, but we're still we're were I remember, like you,

633
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: we were the young guys for a long time with

634
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: when you talk about NFL alumni. But it's nice that

635
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, in the CBA, they're new one. They're putting

636
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: out there. They're trying to take care a little bit

637
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: more of the players and what else. Sevy, they have

638
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: the bills Mafia. They've been tremendous and help us out,

639
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, put it out there for us one hundred

640
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: thousand or whatever people. We got a lot of calls

641
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: off of that. So but it's sad, you know what.

642
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Speaker 1: It reminds me of the what's behind the buildings and

643
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: doors at Disney. They wants to look clean and nice,

644
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of guys out there that still

645
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: need help. And I, you know, I wish the league

646
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: would try to reach out as good as much as

647
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: they can and take care of these guys. Lucky for Benny,

648
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of friends that he's uh trying to

649
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: help him out. Don't forget Benny came from I think

650
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: he was the first player in the history of Old miss.

651
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: He was brought him in and I'm guys, in nineteen

652
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: seventy three, Benny was, you know, a difference maker. He

653
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: was a great teammate and you know a lot of

654
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: guys remember that so help the team. The Buffalo Bills

655
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: have been doing a great job of putting money to

656
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: the go fund muliate page and we all appreciate that. Yeah. Well,

657
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: Bills mafia has always been ploymal about helping out and

658
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: it's probably a benefit to Benny that he did play

659
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo all those years. Yeah, and the fans are tremendous.

660
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: You know, there's some teams that don't have the fans

661
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: that we have up there in Buffalo, but these guys

662
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: really help out. Yeah. The go funding that you guys created,

663
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: I think is just such a great idea and how

664
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: this fan base has has supported it. I think sometimes

665
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: people feel like they can't give because as they can't

666
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: give enough money. So even if you can give a

667
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: couple dollars, why do you think it's important to give

668
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: to this go fund me to help support his wife

669
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: and family and their funeral costs. You know, people would

670
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: rip five dollars, ten dollars. We've seen a couple of

671
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: people who put up a thousand, so making some money,

672
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: but really what would like to do with my wife

673
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: and I would like to make enough money that we

674
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: can build Benny a house down there or buy one.

675
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: You know, we're doing pretty well right now, but they're

676
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: out in a rented house and they have their Benny's

677
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: grandkids with his mom. His wife and his kids are there,

678
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: so he has a lot of pressure on him. I

679
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: mean she does. It's a wonderful woman. But if they

680
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: can help out in any way, we appreciate it a dollar,

681
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: ten dollars, whatever it come at, whatever, But the vast

682
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: amount of people contributing is making a difference. So we'd

683
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: like to get Benny, Benny's wife a house. She's a

684
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: wonderful woman and she took care of Benny for a

685
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: long time. She had to quit her job because you know,

686
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: he needed twenty four seven help all the time. So

687
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: she's done a great job and she'd be great if

688
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: we could make enough money like that. Fred, we all

689
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: appreciate where you're doing. I think it's awesome. And Fred Smerlas,

690
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: we're talking to former Buffalo Bill's defensive tackle from nineteen

691
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: seventy nine through nineteen eighty nine, played fourteen years in

692
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: the National Football and you get five Pro Bowl appearances.

693
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: You were part of a team when you came out

694
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: of college in nineteen eighty that really kind of came.

695
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah seven, it came out of nowhere, really to surprise

696
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. You can't You started your career with a

697
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: big boom in Buffalo. Can you recall what do you

698
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: recall about how big a surprise it was with your team?

699
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: Soake early in your career started to play really well

700
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: when it was a team that hadn't played well for

701
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: a long time. Well, Steve, you know what makes a

702
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: team because a great coach and the players that work together,

703
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: you could have the best players in the world. We're

704
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: seeing that with the Washington Redskins years and years ago.

705
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: Brought every All Pro player on Earth, and they stunk.

706
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: You don't want the best players, you want the best team.

707
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: And when Chuck Knox came in, he wanted to build

708
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, I mean a team of the East, the

709
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: Raiders of the East. So I was I was projected

710
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: to go in the first round, but I was probably

711
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: a little too angry in the field. When I was playing.

712
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: We were eleven and it takes a real coach to

713
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: a team with seven guys drafted and eleven and so

714
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: I went up there and filled the first person I

715
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: ran into his hazlet sitting on two pinball machines, you know,

716
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: with that little tiny head and a big point of nose,

717
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: and he's and he's just a wise guy. I'm like,

718
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: oh my god. And I went into the room and

719
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: in the room my roommate for the first time with

720
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: Kenny Johnson, big giant guy. I walk in and I'm

721
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: looking at him and go, man, I hope this guy

722
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: hasn't hit me. All of a sudden, he goes, my

723
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: name's Kenny Johnson, baby Jaws. And we had a great

724
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: group of guys come in. He brought Chuck, brought in

725
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: the guys that wanted to play and tough guys, and

726
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: it took off. It was a ball. He had great players,

727
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: and that's what it's about. So it was just being

728
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time. If I

729
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: had gone down to Tampa Bay somewhere else, I probably

730
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't have played as well. But it was. It was

731
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: the environment, the people, the chicken wings, the players. It was.

732
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: It was tremendous. You remember what did it came up

733
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: from Houston, right right, Yeah, that's right. And it's interesting

734
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: you talk about you talk about your career, Fred, you

735
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: had book in great coaches. Now there was a lot

736
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: of mediocrity in between. But you went from Chuck Knox

737
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: earlier in your career and he ended up with Marv Levy,

738
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: who obviously you know, ended up going to the to

739
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame after his career as head Buffalo's

740
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: head coach, and Chuck Knox, who uh also one of

741
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: the more well regarded coaches in NFL history. What did

742
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: you take from those two coaches? I know you mentioned

743
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: how they were leaders and brought in making a great

744
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: team an atmosphere. What did those two guys, Chuck Knox

745
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: and Marv leave They couldn't be more different guys, but

746
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: what were their similarities similarities as they knew how to

747
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: point the team in the right direction, bringing the players

748
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: that can play together, not just the blessed players, the

749
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: players that can play together. And he was a gentleman,

750
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately, you know, the guy before him was

751
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: probably the worst coach on the face of the earth,

752
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, Hank Boa, And when Mob came in, it

753
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: was anything but Hank that you know. So he was

754
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: just tremendous. He articulated good guy. Players loved them he was,

755
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: and so it was told different. Chuck was a tough guy,

756
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: you know, looking at Ray's talk crash about you and

757
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: mob would, you know, speaking verb words that I didn't understand,

758
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: But he smiled, so I figured they were good. But

759
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: he was. They both knew how to get the team

760
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: going in the right direction. So that's the big thing

761
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you about this current Bill's roster. The

762
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: Bills haven't been favored to win the AFC East since

763
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, and so a lot of people thinking

764
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: about how they're favored to win the East again. It

765
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: makes you think of, you know, the late eighties in

766
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: the nineties. What do you know about this current roster

767
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: and how excited are you to see this team hopefully

768
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: take over the division this year? Well, you know, they

769
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: had a good run last year. I think if Josh

770
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: gets a little bit more accurate, doesn't run sometimes when

771
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: he when because you don't want to get him her.

772
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: He's a big, strong kid. But if he goes down

773
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: the problems, they have a good defense. They have a

774
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: quarterback that can launch it. They have some nice receivers

775
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: and backs. But you know, I was going to be

776
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: worried about the guy from Boston. You know, Belichick is

777
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: a tremendous coach. It's gonna be. I mean that he

778
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: loves Stidham. You know the quarterback he has down here

779
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: because the guy with the guy, I don't know if

780
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: you remember the guy that was the coach down here.

781
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: I think it was Brady. So he's gone and that's

782
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: a big thing Buffalo think about. Miami has two of

783
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: coming in and Donald us for the Jets, so this

784
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: is a really going to be a close run. Buffalo

785
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: was one notch ahead because I think they got a

786
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: little bit more cohesiveness and they well rounded team. And

787
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: plus they have a coach that's a wrestler. Wrestlers know

788
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: how to get you in shape, and wrestlers know how

789
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: to get you over nights. So that's they have a

790
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: great opportunity to take over the AFC East. Not gonna

791
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: be easy, because this is gonna be. This is gonna

792
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: be like it wasn't the last bunch of years. It's

793
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: a very strong division. It's going to be fun to watch.

794
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: But if Josh and just get a little bit more

795
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: active and a little more patient that will take them

796
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: over with a hump. Yeah, Freddie, I can't thank you

797
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: enough for coming on. Thanks for doing what you're doing

798
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: for Ben Williams. Thanks so much for spending some time

799
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: with us, and I look forward to having you back

800
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo for an alumni vent as well. Thanks d

801
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: youve always a pleasure, both of you. Wonderful to take

802
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: care of everybody up there. I'll see you soon. Fred

803
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: Smerla's fourteen year veteran of the National Football League. One

804
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: of the all time great Buffalo Bill's defensive tackle from

805
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine through nineteen eighty nine, five Pro Bowl appearances.

806
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: Tremendous guy and a great asset to the organization. We're

807
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: gonna be back Maddie Glab Steve Tasker on One Bill's Live.

808
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: We're here till three o'clock. We're presented by Kalida Healtham.

809
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

810
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Maddi Glaber here till three o'clock.

811
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: Coming up at the top of the hour, Tory Vincent,

812
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: Executive vice president of Football Operations for the National Football League.

813
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: We just had Fred Smerlasson, former Buffalo Bill, one of

814
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: the all time great guys, started to go him and

815
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: some of the other alumni started to go fund me

816
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: page for one of their former teammates who passed away

817
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: unexpectedly and Ben Williams, who suffered from dementia early in

818
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: life and the results of that were have not been

819
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: pretty for his family. So they're they're reaching out to

820
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: their old teammate and Bill's mafia for help there. That

821
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: was nice to hear, and he also had some thoughts

822
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: about some of his time here in Buffalo. You have

823
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: you ever met Fred in person, Maddie, No, I've never

824
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: met Fred's moreless in person. Haven't interviewed him either, So

825
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: that was the first time I've gotten to talk to him. Yeah,

826
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: he had a mustache when he was twelve years old,

827
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: and he was also six five two seventy five when

828
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: he was like fifteen years old, and he's still you know,

829
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: six five, two seventy five as a as a sixty

830
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: year old guy or whatever, sixty five year old guy,

831
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: although the mustache is now gray. One of the old

832
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: time great characters that ever played with Super super tremendous

833
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 1: guy and he was. He's genuine in every way, shape

834
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: and form, tendsily and he leans a little bit to

835
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: the right in his political leanings, and anybody who knows

836
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: him knows it's true. But he's also open heart and

837
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: open minded and will listen to anybody and really reaches

838
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: out and wants to talk about everything. And did you know,

839
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: do you notice it's hard to ask him questions Between

840
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: his answers, he can talk about anything. Yeah. Yeah, one

841
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: of the old time great guys. So great to have

842
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: fred On, Mattie, Steve taskwarre heel till three one and

843
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: early in the show, we tried to go to a

844
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: sound bite about Sean McDermott and the virtual offseason that had.

845
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: He was asked that in a live interview zoom interview

846
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: today by the local Buffalo media. Here's what Sean McDermott

847
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: said about this virtual offseason that we've all been experiencing.

848
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: To me, it's a it's a reflection on that we're

849
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: capable or a lot more sometimes than we think we're

850
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: capable of. Right, it's a great example of that. And

851
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: to sit here now, if you would have asked me,

852
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: would we be able to get this done? Back three

853
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: four months ago, I guess four or five months ago.

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Speaker 1: To execute what we've been able to execute, and at

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Speaker 1: the level that we've been able to execute it at,

856
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: I would have said that's going to be a very

857
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: heavy lift, and it has been. That said, it's it's

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00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: been to me just incredible to watch our team come

859
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: together from not just our players, our players being one

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00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: of them, but the staff, the support that we get

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00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 1: from our IT department. Everyone in our building has had

862
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: to do things just like you have to make what

863
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: used to be easy become reality now. And so I

864
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: think that's been really cool to watch the human spirit

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00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: at work, not only in our building, but also in

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Speaker 1: our community as well. That was Sean McDermott on the

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Speaker 1: Virtual Offseason. He's got a lot to say, a lot

868
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: of and a lot of great sound bites from from

869
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: that interview, and he's right, and he's a great leader.

870
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: And not only that, he gets down and dirty and

871
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: personal with his players and he knows that he cares

872
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: about them as people and they just play hard for

873
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: him all the time. But it's also shows his leadership

874
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: when he says, man, you know, you find out what

875
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: you're really capable of when you're asked to do stuff

876
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: you're not comfortable doing. And that's been the theme of

877
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: this offseason, right, It's been fined away, and it's it's

878
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: easy to see when you hear him talk like that,

879
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: why these players are really out there and we get

880
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: videos and feedback all time how hard they're working away

881
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: from the place. Yeah, I mean they have a goal.

882
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: They want to get back to the playoffs. They want

883
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: to make a deep run into the playoffs, and they're

884
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: not gonna let quarantine or COVID nineteen stop them from

885
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: doing their job. When there's going to be a season,

886
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: this team is going to figure out a way to

887
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: make it work because they're all motivated and they all

888
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: share the same goal with each other. Right, So, Mattie

889
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: Glabs Steve Tasker here talking about the Buffalo Bills in

890
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: their off season. Which rookie Bills rookie will make the

891
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: biggest impact in twenty twenty. Sixty percent of you think

892
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Zach Moss the running back, thirty percent

893
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: or twenty seven percent of you think it's going to

894
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: be a j Epenza, ten percent of you think it's

895
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna be Tyler Bass, and about four percent of you

896
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Gabriel Davis, go ahead and give

897
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: us a call if you want to. Three oh five

898
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Speaker 1: fifty or one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Coming back after the break. NFL executive vice president of

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Speaker 1: Football Operations, former Buffalo Bill from two thousand and four

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Speaker 1: to two thousand and six, Troy Vincent, coming on One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. We're presented by kalidah Health and this is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills eight oh A great tackle by Steve glaskerks Tanks,

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Speaker 1: ts all. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker

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00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: along with Mattie glab We are here till three o'clock

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Speaker 1: and we are pleased to be joined on the line

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Speaker 1: now by the NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations,

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Speaker 1: Troy Vincent. He played it in the NFL for fifteen season,

909
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: spent three seasons with the Buffalo Bills in two thousand

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00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: and four through two thousand and six, and he is

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00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: really a guy who is in the midst of everything

912
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: that goes on the National Football League that takes place

913
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: between the lines and a lot of what takes place

914
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: outside the lines. Troy, Steve Tasker, Maddi glab here in Buffalo.

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00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Troy, Troy be there.

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00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, step Mattie. Are you doing I'm sorry falling

917
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Speaker 1: with one I thought sorry interest on that as well.

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Speaker 1: We'll find you. We'll find you a dollar for that.

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00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: How are you doing through the pandemic? Are you are

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00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: you finding some semblance of normality? Are you staying healthy

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00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: and safe? Stand healthy? Stand safe? Wife and I are

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00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: were very thankful our family. Many of the children are

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00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: still home. Toron just went back to Ohio State two

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00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and Troy Junior graduated from graduate school at Townsend.

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00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: And my daughter's healthy, our grandchildren are healthy. Steve Maddie,

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00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: my wife and I couldn't be We couldn't be more

927
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: happier under the circumstances, but we have managed through it

928
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: like every other person, and we're just thankful. I got

929
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: to ask you this too, with all that's going on

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00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: with the death of George Floyd, with the protests going

931
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: on around the country, and the NFL has been dealing

932
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: with this issue since twenty sixteen, and Colin Kaepernick and

933
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: his protests, and I got to ask you this first

934
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: and foremost, how difficult has it been for you in

935
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: the NFL offices, through effort, through argument, through persuasion to

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00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: get the NFL to slowly but surely get on the

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00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: correct side of this issue. So great question, Stephen, and

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Speaker 1: if you can, let's just let's shape up. Just as

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00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: you talk about the offseason, we had the global pandemic

940
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: which created this what I call global time out, so

941
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: everyone was put in time, everyone was on Paul at

942
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: the time, a global time out was called. Then a

943
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: few weeks later, a few months later, there's the the

944
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: murder of a mod Aubrey, the murder of Brianna Taylor,

945
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: the murder of George George Floyd, which now generates riots, protests,

946
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: and now the streets are talking and the young people

947
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: have now thrown in that read challenge flag to us

948
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: as leaders, both individually, privately publicly to do to make change.

949
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: So you put all of these things this perfect storm.

950
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: It has made it to be a very challenging off season.

951
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: But it also allows us to pause and rethink what

952
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: are we here for individually collectively and how the sport

953
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: in particular the National Football League, what role do we

954
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: play in this national global issue? And we are sharing

955
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: in on their responsibility as we would say getting it right,

956
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: and what is getting it right? There's some legislation that

957
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: has to take place, there's some community relations that have

958
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: to take place, and then frankly, as you know Stevens,

959
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: we always evaluate ourselves as players. We have to look

960
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: and say what are we doing organizationally? Because it's we

961
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: can't give best practices or advice to individuals when we're

962
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: not practicing ourselves. That is in New York, that's in

963
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: LA in New Jersey to thirty two individual clubs, and

964
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: before we can go out and give advice to others,

965
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: we have to examine what are we doing. So it's sport,

966
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: we're in a perfect position to share it on the

967
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: responsibility of driving chains. The young people have fowed in

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00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: the challenge flag and they are challenging us black white

969
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: across the globe. They are challenging us as leaders as

970
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: adults to do better. And there's a chance here. Now,

971
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: what are we going to do coming out of here?

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00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: You know, the league is full of some talented, talented

973
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: athletes that are recognized across the world. Why do you

974
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: think it's important for the athletes to also use the

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00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: platform that they have been given through playing in the

976
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: NFL to help educate or to give a way for

977
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: people to learn and listen from them, or to take

978
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: part in fighting to end systemic racism. Right now, Mattie,

979
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: the athlete has always been, in particular the most the

980
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: athlete in the athlete, the entertainment has always been the

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00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: most influential person in most communities. Most and to minimize

982
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: the athlete, male or female, and doesn't matter the sport

983
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: when they're at the pinnacle of their playing experience. We

984
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: love the athlete. The fan loves the athlete while he

985
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: or she's in their jersey, and in particular on Sunday,

986
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: Mondays and Thursdays when the athlete is playing with cheering,

987
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: and then we tend to go to home death when

988
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: the jersey or the helmet or the clats are put

989
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: up or the baseball glub is put aside. These issues

990
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: of the young athletes are important to them that we

991
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: have to listen to. And I've always felt the athlete

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00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: as a student athlete, as a professional athlete. I encourage

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00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: my sons, who are all student athletes, to use your platform,

994
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: and what is using your platform? Stand up for what

995
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: you believe in, to have a voice, and we're seeing

996
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: that globally, and it's so important because the athletes drive

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00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: what we do. They're the reason why fans engage into

998
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: the game. They follow our sport due to not because

999
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: of the shield, not because a mark in one of

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00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: the thirty two clubs. People have allegiance to their stars,

1001
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: and their stars have a voice, and we're hearing from them.

1002
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: We've always at times we haven't listened. Today their voices

1003
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: are loud. It's consistent, both white, black. They're in alignment,

1004
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: and we have to ask ourselves, what are we going

1005
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: to do differently coming out of this global pandemic. We're

1006
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: speaking with Troy Vincent, NFL executive vice president of football Operations,

1007
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: former defensive back in the National Football League for fifteen seasons.

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00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: You wrote an opinion editorial article about the conversations you've

1009
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: had have You've mentioned you've got a college age kid

1010
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: who's a college athlete, is going to Ohio State. But

1011
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: there's conversations that men like Troy Vincent have to have

1012
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: with their sons that guys like me don't have to

1013
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: have with our sons. Could you give us some insight

1014
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: as to what you tell your young African American son

1015
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: when he's going to college. That's different than what a

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00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: white guy like me has to tell my sons when

1017
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: they go to college. So Steve, it's so normal to

1018
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: those individuals and comedians of color. It was something that

1019
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: my mother when I was at the age where I

1020
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: could frankly drive, not only drive a car, but able

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00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: to ride that bike across town. There are talks, we

1022
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: call them the talks, the talk, and what is that

1023
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: talk consistent of, consistent of It is survival skills. So

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00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: my wife, Tommy and I were talking to our boys.

1025
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: It is about making sure that they come back home safely.

1026
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: So from cleaning out their vehicle to making sure that

1027
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: their license, registration and insurance. Most keep it in the

1028
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: glove box. That's normal. To keep it in the glove

1029
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: box or the middle console. No, we have to keep

1030
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: it on the door so that it is easily accessible.

1031
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: You teach no sudden moves. It is yes, sir, no sir,

1032
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: which we all would think that are proper manners. Do

1033
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: nothing that may instigate or engage or come across as

1034
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: being challenging to a potential law enforcement officer. So those talks,

1035
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: and again, they they're so normal that you have to

1036
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: do these things because you want them to go from

1037
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: point A, which is our home in Virginia, to make

1038
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: it to Columbus, Georgia, which is six I mean Columbus, Ohio,

1039
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: which is a six hour drive. My wife and I

1040
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: you're on pins and needles. You're trying to stay on

1041
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: the phone with them, obviously through bluetooth. You're trying to

1042
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: make sure at every stop that you're on the phone

1043
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: because your wife is like anxiety to run today. You're

1044
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 1: not too aware in the vehicle, a sweatshirt and please

1045
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: do not pull the hoodie over your head. Nothing that

1046
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: will give any indication that there's something either going on

1047
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: or that makes it makes you look suspicious. Now, our boy,

1048
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm using Tehran in general. He was in school during

1049
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: the Freddy Gray area. He was going to Gilman School

1050
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, so all his life. Just think about this

1051
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: generation of young people. They have witnessed more murders on

1052
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: their iPhones, from the Freddy Gray to the Mike Browns.

1053
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: We can go on and on and on. This is

1054
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: their perception of life. So we as parents, we're just

1055
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: trying to keep our children alive, which is unfortunate. The

1056
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: NFL is observing Juneteenth as a holiday this year, and

1057
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: they've also committed two hundred and fifty two hundred and

1058
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars over the next ten years to help

1059
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: fight systemic racism. A step in the right direction. Why

1060
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: do you think this is important to do things like

1061
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: this and where can this be a step to many

1062
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: things in the next few years to help fight racism

1063
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: and police brutality and racial injustice. So June tenth, it's

1064
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: another step, as we would say, progress, and it's not

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Speaker 1: a day of celebration, it's a day of acknowledging it.

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Speaker 1: And I think it is important step for our organization.

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Speaker 1: Is so important that we keep it in context of

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Speaker 1: our industry, our organization when you look at the players,

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Speaker 1: going to feel the representation of African Americans, black black athletes,

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Speaker 1: when you look at their staff, to acknowledge that not

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Speaker 1: only black lives matter, but the history. These things are important.

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Speaker 1: These are monumental steps, incremental steps. The work that we're

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Speaker 1: doing with the QB Summit, the work that we've done

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Speaker 1: with our we call it our seven point Mobility Plan.

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Speaker 1: All of these things are HBCU historically Black College, our

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Speaker 1: partnership with our HBCU institutions. These are all steps towards equality,

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Speaker 1: towards justice for men and women of color. So to

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00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: see to see the office progressing, moving forward, and I've

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00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: been involved since nineteen ninety two. I'm pleased we've come

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Speaker 1: a long way. I really do appreciate where leadership is

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00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 1: today when I look at because these things don't happen

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Speaker 1: without club ownership support, beginning with Kim Bagoula, you know,

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Speaker 1: on our Diversity and Inclusion Committee. These activations and these

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00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: acknowledgements and these plans, they don't come to life without

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Speaker 1: club ownership support. We're speaking with Troy Vincent, NFL executive

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Speaker 1: vice president of Football Operations, and as tumultuous as his

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Speaker 1: offseason has been, hopefully it will be the growing pains

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Speaker 1: to something better. And let me just tell you this, Troy,

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Speaker 1: not for nothing, but if this show can ever be

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Speaker 1: of help to you in the National Football League, please

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Speaker 1: give us a call as we move through this. And

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Speaker 1: being this that you're the vice president of Football Operations,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you some football questions. What's this season

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Speaker 1: gonna look like? Troy? Is it gonna be? You know?

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Speaker 1: What do you think it's gonna look like today, on

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Speaker 1: whatever June day. This is now, what's this June seventeenth?

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Speaker 1: I guess what's this going to look like when it

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Speaker 1: comes up? So Steve Warren, full preparation in contingency planning mode,

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Speaker 1: which we have the as we get closer to what's

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Speaker 1: our next milestone in football that is training camp, preseason,

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Speaker 1: in regular season, the education around player protocols, the joint

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Speaker 1: committees with the NFL PA and are in the NFL

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Speaker 1: office on the medical committees on what are testing procedures.

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Speaker 1: So we there's a focus of prepared to play, prepared

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Speaker 1: to watch. What does stadium operations look like? The preparedness

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Speaker 1: around protocols and best practices, fan attendance protocols and policies,

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01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: what does what does branding look like in this in

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Speaker 1: this in this new era with stadium branding, broadcast, game presentation,

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Speaker 1: and then the third pieces preparing to engage the fan.

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Speaker 1: So we are in full mode of preparing for full stadiums.

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Speaker 1: We're not we're not sure where the medical community will

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Speaker 1: allow us to be two and a half three months

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Speaker 1: from now. Half stadiums, quarter stadiums. So we are in complete,

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Speaker 1: con complete preparation mode. So we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that we're doing, but again, preparing to play, preparing

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Speaker 1: to watch, and preparing to engage. All of these different

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Speaker 1: workstreams are happening at the same time in collaboration with

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Speaker 1: the NFL Players Association and our media partners. As things

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Speaker 1: start to happen with the season and plans become in place,

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick's name has has gotten brought up in the

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Speaker 1: mix of what teams should go after him. It's obvious

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Speaker 1: that he's deserving of being in the in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He's a very talented quarterback. And Roger Goodell has came

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Speaker 1: out and said, I encourage teams to contact Colin and

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Speaker 1: to get them on their roster. What is the NFL

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Speaker 1: doing to help Colin Kaepernet get back into the league

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Speaker 1: if he wants to be in the league, Well, that's

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Speaker 1: a club Colin playing will be a club decision. Stated

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Speaker 1: this multiple times. My position has always been the same

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Speaker 1: as it pertains to Colline going back to twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: and seventeen. This young man can play professional football, who

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Speaker 1: was a starter, played extremely well, he produced on the field,

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Speaker 1: But this is the decision of a club owner, general

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Speaker 1: manager in the head coach on giving Colin the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I think we've all felt that way, at least from

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Speaker 1: the league office, but we don't. We don't set rosters,

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Speaker 1: we don't do the hiring as it pertains to personnel

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Speaker 1: at the club level. But this young man has proved

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Speaker 1: during his playing experience that at minimum he deserves a

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Speaker 1: shot to play in a National football league, to compete

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Speaker 1: for a job. No question. It's not just about Colin

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Speaker 1: Kaepernick either. You mentioned Kim Pagoula is on the Committee

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Speaker 1: for Diversification, also Builds defensive coordinator Leslie Fraser. They're both

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Speaker 1: going to participate in an upcoming virtual quarterback Coaching summit

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01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: hosted by you guys at the NFL and the Black

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01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: College Football Hall of Fame. What can what are the

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Speaker 1: some of the basic steps that can be well, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say basic steps. I want to say,

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Speaker 1: what are the basic obstacles that can be just removed easily?

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Speaker 1: When you talk about coaches of color having an access

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Speaker 1: to higher coaching spots, head coaching spots, general manager spots,

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Speaker 1: what are some of the basic obstacles that can be

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Speaker 1: removed pretty easily? If any one I would I would

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Speaker 1: just say it starts. These are hard issues, and hard

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Speaker 1: issues start with your ability, your team's ability, those that

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Speaker 1: are sitting at the table that will be in position

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Speaker 1: of looking at whether it's a general manager or head coach,

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Speaker 1: your willingness to really look for the best one. We

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Speaker 1: have to end this falsehood or this narrative that men

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Speaker 1: of color, black coaches, black personnel don't exist. There's no

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Speaker 1: pipeline that is false, that is a lie. And this

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Speaker 1: is what the Quarterback Summit are. Objectives here at the

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Speaker 1: Quarterback Summit is to provide the nation's brightest, most innovatives,

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Speaker 1: most successful offensive minds in the business of football at

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Speaker 1: both the collegiate and the professional level. The summit is

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Speaker 1: set up so that they can exchange ideas on fundamentals,

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Speaker 1: best practices, techniques to learn as they think about building

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: their playbook, building their staff the first thirty days on

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Speaker 1: a job, and this is just not for the QB

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Speaker 1: Summit is just not set up for head coaching jobs.

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Speaker 1: Other layers offensive coordinator, quarterback coach that are critical. This

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Speaker 1: is what the summit is set up for so they

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Speaker 1: can learn and build these skills. They can network. We

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Speaker 1: have multiple club owners participating, multiple head coaches and general managers,

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Speaker 1: facilitating discussions, sharing best practices. Now, what we need when

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Speaker 1: the hiring cycle occurs is for someone to actually give

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Speaker 1: these individuals a true, legitimate and fair stop. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more about the QB Summit

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Speaker 1: that is going to be hosted on June twenty second.

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Speaker 1: In June twenty third, Bill's defensive coordinator Leslie Fraser and

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01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: owner Kim Pagoula will participate in the Virtual QB Summit,

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Speaker 1: which is awesome to see some of the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: have representation in that. Just the importance of the QB Summit.

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Speaker 1: You've talked about it a little bit of that, But

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Speaker 1: what do you what is the hope of this HB

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Speaker 1: summit and you've you've already touched on it too, of

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Speaker 1: seeing more people of color in those roles. What's your

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01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: hope for that and when do you think we might

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Speaker 1: be able to see that and not think it's it's

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Speaker 1: weird that there's not enough people of color in some

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Speaker 1: of those positions. I hope we look down the road

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Speaker 1: in five years from now and it's quite different than

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Speaker 1: how it looks right now, and that is what is

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Speaker 1: the best interest of the game. So, Mattie, your point

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Speaker 1: that you just made, we are looking to break down

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Speaker 1: those color barriers, the double standards that exist and making

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Speaker 1: sure that we got eighty in lights here and we

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Speaker 1: had to shut that off. That these men are amplified

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Speaker 1: and highlighted. These are the brightest minds in football. When

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Speaker 1: we think about Byron that question, I'm just using just

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Speaker 1: a few, just a few individuals that Tony Elliott, Eric

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Speaker 1: the Enemy, Jim Cartwell, Craig Johnson. I'm just thinking Ted

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Speaker 1: White and Jerry Mack, Mike Locksley. These are individuals who

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Speaker 1: not only have some seats, they have won national championships.

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Speaker 1: As play callers at the collegiate level have won We

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Speaker 1: have Super Bowl winning coaches that have coached some of

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Speaker 1: the pet Hamilton's. When we think about Andrew Luck, not

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Speaker 1: only did he coaching recruiting him at Stanford outstanding collegiate career,

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Speaker 1: then he becomes his offensive coordinator and the play caller

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Speaker 1: at Indeed, and some of Andrew's most prolific years playing

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Speaker 1: professional football is that we acknowledge that these men exist

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Speaker 1: and their leaders and they can do the job. They

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Speaker 1: just have to be presented the opportunity Troy, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for coming on and we appreciate it. Like I

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Speaker 1: said before earlier, if if there's any time this program

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01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: can be of service to the National Football League and

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Speaker 1: in these issues or any others, please give us a call.

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Speaker 1: And thanks so much for being with us today. Steve Maddie,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Thank you for allowing me

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Speaker 1: to share my thoughts. Troy Vincent, National Football League Executive

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Speaker 1: vice President of Football Operations. He's a former National Football

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Speaker 1: League defensive back for fifteen years. He spent three years

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo from two thousand and four to two

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Speaker 1: thousand and six. On with us now Steve Tasker, Mattie

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Speaker 1: glaber Hill till three o'clock. Good stuff in that last interview.

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Speaker 1: We're going to come back after the break. We've got

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll to get back to. We've got Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal coming up at the two o'clock hour. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio presented by Kalida Health and this is

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Welcome Back from One Bill's Live Coming

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Speaker 1: Back ag. We just had Troy Vincent on what a

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01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: great interview he was. He's at the top levels of

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Speaker 1: the National Football League in New York City, works closely

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01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: with the commissioner and everything that's going on with the

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Speaker 1: officials on the field, with replay, and with players and

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Speaker 1: the union, what's going on with the league. But he

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Speaker 1: also has a lot of insight and personal knowledge about

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be a National Football League player,

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01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: and he shared with some of us, with us some

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Speaker 1: of what is different forgotten men of color in this

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Speaker 1: in this country, not just as football players, but his

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Speaker 1: dad's the conversations he had with his son headed back

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Speaker 1: to Ohio State and with some of the thoughts he

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Speaker 1: had about the protests that were going on even as

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Speaker 1: we speak. And today, not for nothing, Maddie, but Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott was asked a little bit about that today as well.

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Speaker 1: He had this to say. Uh, Sean McDermott was asked

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Speaker 1: about what the club or what conversations he's had with

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Speaker 1: his players about their decisions. Where will they protest the

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Speaker 1: justice is in America as the season begins. And here's

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Speaker 1: what Sean McDermott said today's the local media when he

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Speaker 1: was asked about protests coming up perhaps in this coming season,

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Speaker 1: I would just tell you, I mean, if you look

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Speaker 1: back at how we've handled prior experiences, how we've handled

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Speaker 1: it in the last couple of months here, um that

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Speaker 1: we are always going to support our players, We're always

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Speaker 1: going to respect their position on things, and then we're

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Speaker 1: also going to do our part of listening and trying

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Speaker 1: to educate ourselves and following it up with with love.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's been again, that's nothing new from

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Speaker 1: me to you guys, that I'm communicating and answering your question. Man,

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's really to need the right way

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Speaker 1: to go about things, and that's what we're all about.

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Speaker 1: No an agendas. Uh, you know, we're trying to do

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Speaker 1: things the right way and it starts with respect and

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Speaker 1: ends with love. NABT. Sean McDermott on his thought about

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Speaker 1: the protest coming up and how they will handle it

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Speaker 1: in house. What you think of not only Troy Vincent's remarks,

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Speaker 1: but also kind of the well Troy Vincent was on

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Speaker 1: earlier and just now and those remarks by Sean McDermot,

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Speaker 1: even though they happened earlier today, kind of echoed what

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Speaker 1: Troy Vincent said about the protest. Yeah, definitely. I mean

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott's I think response was a really good one

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Speaker 1: with what's going on in our country today with the

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Speaker 1: racial injustice and police brutality, and our players they want

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Speaker 1: to feel like they are linked to the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: and they want to feel like they're heard by the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff. And Sean McDermot said, we're going to respect

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Speaker 1: our players, we're going to support them, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to love them at the end of the day. So

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Speaker 1: if the players do choose to protest, it seems like

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Speaker 1: coach mcdermot's going to respect that, which I think is

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01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: an awesome thing to hear from a head coach, to

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01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: feel like you're boarded, buyed head coach in ways that

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Speaker 1: you choose to express what's going on in the country. Yeah,

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's so many layers to what's

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Speaker 1: happened to us over the last three months as a country,

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Speaker 1: three and a half months as a country, not only

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 1: the murders of the innocent Americans the hands of police,

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01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: but the protests and the outpouring of emotion as a

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Speaker 1: result of that during the time when the entire planet

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01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: has been affected by the pandemic of COVID nineteen. And

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: there's so many layers to this about what we have

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01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: seen in the past and what we may see in

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01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: the future, and how different our reaction will be to

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Speaker 1: what happens in the future than our reaction was in

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: the past, and so much going on to this. And

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Speaker 1: you talk about how trying to get a foot, you know,

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Speaker 1: something not for nothing, but something as silly as a

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01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: football team in the midst of all this seems a

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01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: little trivial, but you've got a lot of lives wrapped

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01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,759
Speaker 1: up in what happens, and so many things are different.

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01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott was asked about, you know, how has teams

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Speaker 1: discipline and what they're trying to do, and how they're

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01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: trying to come together as a club up and how

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01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: you know the things when you you know, when you

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01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: got to have a sense of self discipline around them. Uh,

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01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,440
Speaker 1: the organization. He was asked about, Uh, you know, maintaining

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01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 1: that discipline and that open while still maintaining that line

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Speaker 1: of communication with his players. And here's what Sean McDermott

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01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: said to that, about maintaining the discipline during these virtual

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Speaker 1: meetings and in the off season where nobody gets to

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Speaker 1: see each other in person. As thorough as we are, Mike,

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01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's things between now and training camp that

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01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: are that we haven't thought of yet that we're going

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01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: to think of and so um so yes, I mean

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01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: we have people that are gonna be tied directly to

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Speaker 1: the protocol having a protocol coach. I don't want to

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01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: get into all the specifics on it, but he has

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01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: a good point. And you do need constant reminders. I mean,

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01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: let's you guys have all been out a little bit

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01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: like I had, just a little bit, and and you

1323
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: were so used to that what was the norm? And

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01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: you end up standing next to someone and you're going, whoa, Hey, yeah,

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01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: I forgot right. So yeah, that's that's gonna happen on

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Speaker 1: the field, and we're gonna have to make sure we're

1327
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: in We're gonna have to make sure that we are

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Speaker 1: continually policing that or and remaining disciplined and to follow

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01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 1: up on that. Is the league doing that too? Are

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01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 1: they policing the teams? Is that something they've told you

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01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 1: they're going to do or are they kind of leaving

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: that to the teams to follow the rules? Well to

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01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: this point, to this mean the league always polices, there's

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01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: a there's a you know, they have their their spot

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01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: checkers and whatnot. But um, you know, I think we

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Speaker 1: have to do our own. We have to our own,

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01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: and I would hope regardless of the COVID situation or not,

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01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 1: that we're always going to do our own. Um. But

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01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: I think, you know, again, it goes back to it's

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01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: it's a key word, your discipline. You know, you go

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01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: back and you say, hey, early on, we were very disciplined, right,

1342
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,520
Speaker 1: you know in our house? Are we are we staying disciplines?

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01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: Easy to to lose that, that that element as you

1344
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: go through day after day. It's easy to start lunt

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01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: that way, right, Who can do it? Who can remain discipline?

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01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 1: No different than than workouts? Right? Why do why do

1347
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: New Year's resolutions fail? Right? Because it's easy to start,

1348
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 1: but who can see it through? And that takes discipline?

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01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 1: And that's sometiimes what helps separate uh some individuals and

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01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: some times from others. That's Sean McDermot will maintaining the

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01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: discipline through these difficult times, Mattie. We've had this virtual offseason.

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01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: We've got all these guys that we know and love

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01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: who've been out working out and doing all this, and

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: then we've got all these guys that we don't know

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01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: anything about, and we're asking how unbelievable is it going

1356
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: to be if any rookie in the NFL can come

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01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: in and contribute at all this season, let alone just

1358
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,839
Speaker 1: make a team after being on just being a college

1359
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: kid and just like being a you're you're you're like

1360
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,799
Speaker 1: treading water in the middle of the ocean by yourself

1361
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: and trying to find your way. And then you know,

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01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: once in a while you'll be able to get together

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01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: and see these guys working out and stuff. But which

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01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: one of these rookies could possibly contribute, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the big question. I hope they all can. From

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01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: what Chan mcdurrantt has said about them, talking about how

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Speaker 1: they've operated in this virtual offseason virtual meetings, it seems

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01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: like he's impressed with how they've kind of taken advantage

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01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: of this time to do even more than they're asked

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01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: to do, to do things to prove themselves to the veterans.

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Speaker 1: This is something that a Jeff Andes has said when

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Speaker 1: it came to building relationships with his new teammates. He said,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just as important too to prove myself

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01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: to these older guys in the locker rooms so that

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01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: when I come in, I can work with them and

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01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm not twenty steps behind where they're at. So I'm

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01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: glad that we have the rookies that we do because

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01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 1: from the zoom media availabilities with them to how the

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01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: coaches have talked about them, it seems like they're very impressed.

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01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: And I was impressed by just their intelligence and what

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01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: they already knew from college coming into the NFL. It

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01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: seems like these are some high IQ football players who

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01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: did a lot on their teams and were asked to

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01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: do quite a bit on their teams, and hopefully that

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01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: sets them up to be able to make an impact

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01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: on a team in their rookie season when they haven't

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01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 1: really been around their new teammates yet, let alone in

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01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 1: their new facility where they're going to spend the next

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01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: few years. Yeah, it's interesting to think about. You get

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01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: picture yourself. If any of you remember when me, it's hard,

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01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: but you're in college and you're going hanging around with

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01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: your buddies and your biggest concern is I got to

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01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: go to class, I gotta do my homework. I get

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: all this stuff done, and I'll go over and work

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01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: out and get all that stuff done. Then you get

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Speaker 1: drafted by one of these NFL teams, and all of

1397
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're in an environment that is one hundred

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01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: percent about football, and you don't have class to worry about.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm anything to worry about except being as

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01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: good at football players as you can be. And you're

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01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: surrounded by guys that are significantly in some cases older

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01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: than you are, who you've seen play on TV, who

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01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 1: you've seen do some pretty cool stuff in the National

1404
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: Football League, and all of a sudden, you're thrown into

1405
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: this as a young person trying to contribute and make

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01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: your way and gain some respect as well. It's a

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01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: lot to ask for a young player, particularly given this

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01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: weird atmosphere that they're in for the NFL, and also

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01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: just the different atmosphere would be if it was normal.

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Speaker 1: We've asked you our listeners today, you know which Bills

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01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 1: rookie do you think will make the biggest impact in

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01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Sixty percent of you think it's going to

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01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: be Zach Moss, the running back. Twenty eight percent of

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be a j Epenza, the second

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01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: round pick, the highest draft pick the bill has had

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01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: this year. Aj Epeneza, who'll be in the rotation on

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01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: the defensive line. Ten or nine percent of you think

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01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Tyler Bass, the kicker if he can

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01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: make the club, there's no question he'll be a contributing

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01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: factor if indeed that happens. And about four percent of

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01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: you think Gabriel Davis, they receiver, the first wide receiver

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01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: of two taking we didn't have room to put all

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01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: seven in. We left Isaiah Hodgens off the list, and

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01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: also Dane Jackson off the list and QB Jake from

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01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: off the list as well. But these four Epaneza, Zach Moss,

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01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: Tyler Bass, and Gabriel Davis, or the four choices we give,

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01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: you can give us a call an Ado three oh

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01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: five fifty. And you think about how they their heads

1429
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 1: must be swimming graduate and he saw and you see,

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01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 1: you hear a guy like Troy Vincent, who's a fifteen

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01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: year vet. We just had him on the last half hour.

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01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: Troy Vinson, who's a fifteen year VET. He's an NFL

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01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: executive vice president of football Operations, who's seen it all.

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01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: He's been around the block, he's been through a CBA negotiations.

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01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: He's been through all of this thing. He's you know,

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01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 1: player lockouts, all that stuff. To have him come on,

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01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: you know and be you know, in in uncharted waters

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01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: himself as a as a veteran of the National Football

1439
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 1: League for a couple of decades. Man, oh man, what

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01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,560
Speaker 1: it must it be like for these young players and

1441
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: coaches who are doing this for the first time. Yeah,

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01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. And if I was in their place,

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01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: I would want to be reaching out to as many

1444
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 1: veteran players as possible right now to pick their brain

1445
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: on what it's like to be in the NFL, what

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01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: that first season is like, things that they should do,

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01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: ways that they should carry themselves in the NFL. I mean,

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01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: I would want to be reaching out to as many

1449
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: people as I can right now in this weird time

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01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: that we've been in for the last few months, where

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01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 1: they've been wherever, they've been cooped up and still training

1452
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: and still taking part in the off season program. But

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01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm thankful that that's all going to come to an

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01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: end soon because it seems like in July will have

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01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: training camp. These guys, we get to be around each other. Yes,

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01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: there's going to be a million protocols in place, but

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01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: as long as the players can be within a sixty

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01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: feet distance of each other and be able to practice

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01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 1: and get onto the field together, that's all that matters.

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01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: I guess if we're not allowed to be there, it

1461
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: would stink, but that would be okay because as long

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01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: as the team can go for it and do what

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01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: they need to do to get ready for week one.

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01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. Steve Tasker, Maddie Glabber here till three o'clock.

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01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: Coming up at the top of the hour, Greg Rosenthal,

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01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: he comes on at two o'clock. He's NFL dot COM's

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Speaker 1: Around the National Football League Editor. We've had Troy Vincent on,

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01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: the executive vice president of the National Football League Football

1469
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: app Operations. We had also former Buffalo Bill great Fred

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01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: Smerla's on as well. If you missed any of that

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01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: or want to catch it in at all, you can

1472
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: do so at Buffalo bills dot Com, the Buffalo Bill's app, Spotify,

1473
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: Google Play, an Apple Podcasts as well. Steve Tasker, Mattie

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01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: Glabb the top of the hour, Greg Rosenthal coming on

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01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: with us as well. This is Buffalo Bill's radio presenter

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01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health and this is one Bills Live.

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01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: Welcome back to one of those lives. Chief Tasker Maddie

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01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: Glab coming at you till three o'clock. We got a

1479
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: lot to talk about. We had Troy vincent On, executive

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01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: vice president of the National Football League Football Operations on

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01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 1: and what a great interview that was. We've also asked

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Speaker 1: our listeners which Bill's rookie will have the biggest impact

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01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. We got a lot of response from

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, and a tweet sheet is let's go

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Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official equipment moving of the Buffalo Bills. Maddie, you

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Speaker 1: can start it. We got a ton of responses, but

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Speaker 1: why don't you give it a first go? All right?

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01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: Jack A says Epanessa has the talent and the pedigree

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Speaker 1: to be a defensive playmaker. Well, I don't expect them

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01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: to rush him. There is a whole at right defensive

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01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 1: end as an edge setter and run stuffer vacated by Lawson.

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01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: I think Epanessa is a better prospect than Shack was.

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01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: Being opposite hughes On. A good d also helped EPINESSSA

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01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: could help in that way in certain packages. But you

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01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: can't forget about Mario Addison there on the other end

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01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: of the defensive line. Those are going to be your

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01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: two important defensive ends on this team, Jerry Hughes and

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01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: Mario Addison. I think they also like what Epines they

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01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: can bring on the inside. That's something that Leslie Fraser

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01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott have talked a lot about when Epins's

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01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: name is brought up. Is not only what he can

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01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: do on the outside, but how can he can rush

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01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback on the inside and be a run stuffer

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01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: on the inside as well. Yeah, that's another and that's

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01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 1: actually for the second response on the twitter on the

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01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: tweet sheet says the exact same thing from Tiffany. She

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01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: says he may not always show up on the stat sheet,

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01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 1: but I think Aj is going to play an important

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01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: role in the defense because he has position flexibility. Honestly,

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01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 1: he should have gone in the first one and his

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01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: impact will be felt early and often this season. I

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01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna get on the field that early,

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01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: but you're right, Maddie. They they got a ton of

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01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: really quality players, and I think Aj Epineza his great

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01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,799
Speaker 1: asset right now is the ability to move down inside

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01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: from defensive end. Obviously he can rush the pastor if

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01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: he can rush the passer on the outside, you would

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01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: think he could have some pretty good pass moves on

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01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: the inside as well. Plus he's a big body guy

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01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: that will give him some oomph if they do run

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01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 1: into a third down where the team decides to run it,

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01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: he can hold his ground better because he's a bigger body.

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01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: He's got a bigger got a defensive tackle type of frame.

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01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 1: So I think his flexibility to go inside or outside

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01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,839
Speaker 1: on the defensive line gives him or gives the coaching

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01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: staff more opportunities to get him on the field than

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01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe we would have seen with a guy like Ed

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01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: Oliver last year, who was a three technique and he

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01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: was going to stay at the three technique and that's

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01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: where he was going to be no matter what. And

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01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, with aj being able to be flexible with

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01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: his position may get him on the field a little

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01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: more earlier in the season than we saw at Oliver

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01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: last year. Definitely, I agree. Another one Tim says, assuming

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01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: that they all play missed and made field goals will

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01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 1: have a disproportionate effect effectively every one of his kicks,

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01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: aside from kickoffs, will impact the score, either positively or negatively.

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01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:09,799
Speaker 1: R E. Tyler Bass. So seems like Kim is talking

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01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: in the realm of Tyler Bass can do some great

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01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: things or some bad things for his team. I think

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01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 1: if Tyler Bass is the kicker, they're thinking that he's

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01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 1: going to do some really great things for the team,

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01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily too many negative things for the team, right.

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01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if he makes the club, he's gonna have

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01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 1: to do some really impressive work in the preseason, and

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01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: he's probably not going to get as many opportunities you

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01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: would think he would normally would, because there's only it

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01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be maybe two maybe three

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01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: preseason games, a shorter preseason roster, you know, a game schedule.

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Speaker 1: So if Tyler Bass does make the club, it's because

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01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: I think he was extremely impressive. And if he's extremely impressive,

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01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you can go into the season thinking

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01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: they don't have anything but one hundred percent confidence in

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01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: the fact that he's gonna make more make all the

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01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: kicks he should make. But for me, he's got the

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01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 1: job of the four choices on the list of making

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01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: the squad. But if he does, his impact will be enormous.

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01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think there's just no where around it.

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01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: Nowhere around it. I will see one more from the

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01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: tweet sheet before we go from sipping the kool aid

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01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: when he wants the job. When he wins the job,

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01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: it will be Bass. For sure. Moss will be the sexiest,

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01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 1: but Bass will determine outcomes of games. He will add

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01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: at least ten yards of range to the possibility of

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01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 1: the Bills can score points, meaning extra field goals. Plus

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01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: he'll have the leg to get touchbacks when the weather

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01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: gets cold. It's exactly along the lines of what I

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01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: think as well. If Tyler Bass is good enough to

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01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: make this team, it's huge and the impact he's gonna have,

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01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna be huge. Thing about last year and Stephen

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01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: Houski made his last eleven kicks, the one the last

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01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,759
Speaker 1: of which put the Bills into overtime with the Houston

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01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 1: Texans in a playoff game. Those kicks don't come along

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01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: every so often, and when they do, you gotta be

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01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: ready for him. Well that's good, all right, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: Maddie glab Here till three coming up at the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour. It will be Greg Rosenthal, NFL dot

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01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: COM's Around the NFL Editor. This is One Bills Live

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01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:27,759
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. Oh a great time by Steve Flasker,

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01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: fusts down over time. Welcome back to One Bill's Live,

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01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Maddie Glab will please to be joined on

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01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: the line now by the NFL dot COM's Around the

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01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: NFL editor, Greg Rosenthal, Greg, Steve Tasker, Maddie Glab here

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01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us. And the first thing

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01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: we always ask all of our guests is how are

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01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: you doing during the pandemic? Are staying healthy and safe? Yeah, yeah,

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01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: we are. I'm here. I'm here in California seeing a monic.

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01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: Not the worst place to be there and all this.

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01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 1: So it's basically just trying to come up with something

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01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: to enter saying my kids all day. I'm sure. I'm

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01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 1: sure you guys, that's just been similar reaction exactly. Zack,

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01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: you had you had an interesting article and one of

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01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: the names on the Buffalo Bill's roster that's been on

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01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: the tips of all Bills fans all offseason has been

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01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: their young tight end Dawson Knox. You tabbed him as

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01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: maybe one of the best homegrown talents. Uh certainly uh

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01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: in In maybe in the afcast. But what are your

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01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: thoughts on this young tight end? Why do you think

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Speaker 1: that maybe he's got great things ahead of him. Yeah,

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01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: I wentn't back and watched all of his targets, and

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01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: I was really impressed. There was a good tight end

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01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: class last year, and he was He was right near

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01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 1: near the top of it um in terms of just

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01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 1: when you watched him line up outside, he can line

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01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: up in the slot, he can line up inside, He

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01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: can you know, obviously be an in line tight end

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01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: sometimes too, but he just has that movement and that

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01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 1: athleticism that you look for. And what I saw from

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01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 1: him a lot was that he was open and him

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01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen were not able to connect sometimes. But

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Speaker 1: I really think, like for instance, that New England game,

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01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: if Allen had put it on him a couple of

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01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 1: times near the end zone, he might have had a

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01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 1: free touchdown game and we might have already been talking

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01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: about him as a big time breakout candidate. And when

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01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: you look around the league, every team wants a guy

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01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: like that, and I think he's perfect for what they

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01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: want to do. So I know all the focuses on

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01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: the wide receivers there, but to me, he can be

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01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: a huge factor for their offense. You also went around

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01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: the AFC East and projected depth charts for each team.

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01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 1: The Bills have some depth and a lot of different

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01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: positions this year. One that they used to not have

1625
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: too much depth in and that's wide receiver. So for

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01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: teams that have continuity in depth going into twenty twenty,

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01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be pretty good for them in an

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01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: officeas and where they haven't even been able to meet up.

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01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 1: So I'm just the depth that wide receiver could help

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01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: the Bills going forward. Yeah, it's it's massive. I mean

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01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: because I think, if you know, and I'd almost throw

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01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: knocks into this mix, you basically want a depth of

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01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: guys who can catch the ball. And I think you added, uh,

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01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: you know to that in the in the backfield too

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01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: with Zach Moss, but at wide out, you know, putting

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01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: Digs in there and him and Brown can kind of

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01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: share that co number one receiver role. I think it

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01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 1: just helps the guys deeper on on the depth chart,

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01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 1: including Colt easily, but but also even behind him in

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01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: terms of having a role because right now in the NFL,

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01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: it's like you need four or five receivers. I really

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01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 1: think that it's been such a big change in the

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01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: last even three or four years that you have four

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01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: or five receivers on the field at a time. You

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01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 1: can't just get by with two great guys, so you

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01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: kind of have to build that group thinking each guy

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01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 1: plays a different role. And I think the Bills have

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01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 1: done a really good job building their roster and and

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01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 1: kind of building an offense on paper that looks really

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01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: good around what Brian Daball wants to do and getting

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01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: getting the ball out Josh Allen's hands pretty quickly. Do

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01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: you think they've done enough for Josh Allen to give

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01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: him enough weapons around him? I do, I mean, don't you.

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01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what more they can can do.

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01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you're obviously always going to try to be

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01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: improving and you'd love to hit on, you know, a

1657
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: draft pick where it becomes like a superstar around him,

1658
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe Devin Singletary can can be that guy.

1659
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: But it's hard to find skill playing in the NFL.

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01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: And I think so, I mean, I think they've done

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01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,759
Speaker 1: a good job, and I like the fact the offensive

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01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: line has some continuity too that I think if you

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01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: look at it compared to about two or three years ago,

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01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's very improved too, and that that's a

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01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 1: weapon for Alan too. So I like what they've done.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's got the best weapons in the

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01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 1: entire league, but I think they're they're average, are better

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01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: than average, and that's that's a big upgrade from from

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Speaker 1: when they started with him. Going back to your projected

1670
01:32:56,439 --> 01:33:00,480
Speaker 1: depth chart for the Buffalo Bills, there's gonna be competition

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Speaker 1: at that corner spot opposite of Trey White. Obviously, Trey

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01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: White has solidified his role there, but you bring in

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01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 1: a guy like Josh Norman, There's also Levi Wallace, e J. Gaines.

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01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 1: That's going to be a competition spot. And some people

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01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: think that Josh Norman can have a resurgence in his

1676
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 1: career being reunited with Sean McDermott, somebody who he really

1677
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 1: made his name under playing for Sean McDermott at corner.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Josh Norman owns that starting spot for

1679
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: corner and do you think he could have have a

1680
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 1: great year coming off of some not so great years

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01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: with the Redskins. Yeah, he's got to be the favorite

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01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 1: based on the money. I mean that, you know, the

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01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 1: teams tell you what they think when with the contracts,

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01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: and to me that that tells you quite a bit.

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01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 1: You know, the money that they gave him, that's a

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01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: solid starter. Now, he wasn't playing well with Washington, and look,

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01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people go to Washington and stand up

1688
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:56,600
Speaker 1: not playing well by the end. So maybe it was

1689
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 1: a situation. And McDermott is clearly good at getting the

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01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 1: best out of guys in a defensive backfield. If that's

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Speaker 1: a seat. If the Bills have a secret sauce, McDermott

1692
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: has a secrets out of that bit, and I think

1693
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 1: we leave well my pretty well. I mean, you guys,

1694
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 1: you guys can tell me that that he wouldn't be

1695
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 1: that easy to displace. But it kind of like receiver,

1696
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: you can't have too many cornerbacks. And I think that

1697
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: was the attitude and the thought that they had with

1698
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: Norman that he also brings kind of a lot of

1699
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: veteran know how I've worked with Josh Norman. I mean,

1700
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 1: he is a personality, he is he is smart as heck,

1701
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: and I think that was part of the reason they

1702
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: wanted to bring him in there. We're talking with Greg Rosenthal,

1703
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 1: NFL dot COM's Around the National Football League editor. The

1704
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: Bills drafted Zack Moss this year in the third round.

1705
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 1: Year they I'm sorry, he wasn't third rounder. Yeah yeah,

1706
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: Jack Moss a third rounder. And last year they also

1707
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 1: got a third round running back in Devin Singletary. Why

1708
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 1: do you think these two, particularly Zack Moss, what do

1709
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: you think he brings to the table and how will

1710
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: that change the dynamic in the backfield from what it

1711
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,560
Speaker 1: was a year ago with Frank Gore. You know, you know,

1712
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 1: I watched I studied him for the draft, and he's

1713
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 1: a good slasher. You know. I don't look at the

1714
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,560
Speaker 1: two of them, him in Singletary as two different but

1715
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 1: I think he probably gives you a little more power

1716
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: if that's what you're looking for along the goal line.

1717
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: Uh well, a little bit more of like a one

1718
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 1: cut and go type of guy. But to me, they're

1719
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 1: closer to being interchangeable. And I think people look at

1720
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 1: Singletary and they wonder, Okay, if you're gonna be taken

1721
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: out on third downs or or you know, near the

1722
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 1: goal line, I think you want to have guys in

1723
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 1: today's NFL that can both, that can do everything. And

1724
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: I think for the most part, they're gonna look at

1725
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: those two guys that way and use them a lot.

1726
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 1: I loved watching Single Theory play any any guy who

1727
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 1: can make defenders miss like he can, especially kind of

1728
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: inside the tackles, which which he could. I think it's

1729
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 1: going to have a good career. And so I look

1730
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 1: at Moss is like a little bit more of a

1731
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 1: power guy, but to me, they're they're fairly similar and

1732
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 1: and Moss is really promising, and I like that. I

1733
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 1: think you're going to get more out of Single Theory

1734
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 1: in the long run, giving him two hundred, two hundred

1735
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 1: and fifty touches versus that old school way of thinking

1736
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: that we got to give him three hundred and fifty

1737
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 1: touches every year. He also released an article with GM

1738
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 1: rankings and Brandon Bean was ranked as the twelfth best

1739
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: GM in the NFL. What impressed you about him? Why

1740
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 1: why did he earn that twelfth spot? And what can

1741
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 1: he do this year to earn even a higher ranking

1742
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 1: for next year? Yeah? I think you know, if they

1743
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 1: if they do it again, then he will go up

1744
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,679
Speaker 1: because I think that the hardest thing in today's NFL

1745
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 1: is to build a consistent winner because on paper, him

1746
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: and McDermott and really, you know, I talked to some

1747
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 1: people and they say, you could almost put Sean McDermott

1748
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:41,719
Speaker 1: as a as a cogm. His voices is so important

1749
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: in terms of even bringing Brandon being into the organization.

1750
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 1: So I recognize that, and I look at the bills

1751
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 1: and since Bean's gotten there, and I look at them

1752
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 1: as kind of a prototype for what you want to

1753
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: do with a reboot, with with the with the rebuild

1754
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 1: of an organization bringing in guys that they have a

1755
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 1: vision for how they're going to play defense. The defense

1756
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 1: and improved immediately. And now you're in year three with

1757
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 1: Bean and you can just see it's his team. It's

1758
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: him and McDermott's team, the guys that Doug Whaley brought in,

1759
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 1: you know, in their previous gms. For the most part,

1760
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,560
Speaker 1: this is their vision. And that's it's impressive to be

1761
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 1: able to do that. They're a fast, you know, I

1762
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 1: think smart team, and uh, like I said, if they

1763
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 1: could just do it again, it's tough. I mean a

1764
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,640
Speaker 1: lot is obviously riding on Josh Allen. But to me,

1765
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 1: they look like a team that's built for the long run.

1766
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 1: I've watched teams that I think are like that fall

1767
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 1: apart too often to just assume that's going to happen.

1768
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 1: But man, they have a lot of good young talent

1769
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 1: that you would think they're going to be in the

1770
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 1: mix and very competitive for the long run, not just

1771
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: this year. We're talking with Greg Rosenthal of NFL dot Com. Greg,

1772
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: around the AFC East think that you know, it seems

1773
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 1: that like there's been a seismic shift now that Tom

1774
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: Brady's now playing in the NFC South and Jared Stidham

1775
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 1: seems to be the heir apparent to that spot in

1776
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 1: the division. What do you see? Is it gonna be

1777
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 1: a seismic shift like it seems like without Tom Brady

1778
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 1: Because I for me, maybe it's scarred tissue from the

1779
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 1: twenty odd years that Bill Belichick and that crew have

1780
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: dominated a division. But I have a hard time seeing

1781
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick in the fetal position in New England wondering

1782
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,799
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do next. I'm pretty sure the Patriots

1783
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 1: are still going to be pretty good. Yeah, I'm with you. Look,

1784
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 1: I grew up in Massachusetts, So you can call me

1785
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 1: biased if you want, But as I've watched that team

1786
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: and and I look at their offensive line, it's really good,

1787
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's one of the bottle lines

1788
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 1: on paper, especially on the interior, but really overall that

1789
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 1: they've had. You look at the secondary, it's really good.

1790
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, they were one of the best defenses in

1791
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 1: the league last year because of that secondary. They have

1792
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 1: to found Gilmour raining Defensive Player of the Year, and

1793
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: he's got some real strengths to build around. I think

1794
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: they liked their backfield. I'm with you that of course

1795
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 1: Didham is an X factor, and it's possible that the

1796
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 1: quarterback position just sinks their season and they're not great,

1797
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: and that they're just competitive, and I think they did

1798
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 1: take a pretty big step back even a year ago.

1799
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: So this is not a Super Bowl contending roster to me.

1800
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 1: But I just don't see any reason to believe they're

1801
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: going to totally collapse when Belichick has some real strength

1802
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 1: to build on, and you know, you know Sief being

1803
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: around the game, that's what he's about. He's about what

1804
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 1: do we do well? And let's let's try to cover

1805
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 1: up what we don't do well, and let's really accentuate

1806
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: what we do do well. And they did that very

1807
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 1: well earlier in the Tom Brady when they weren't a

1808
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 1: big time throwing team, and I think that's what you'll

1809
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 1: kind of see this year too with Stidham. Another team

1810
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: who looks pretty different in the AFC East this year

1811
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: is the Dolphins. They put in so much money towards

1812
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 1: their defense last season that ranks at the bottom of

1813
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 1: the league, and then they they do some things with

1814
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: their offense. To the draft twa from Alabama, When do

1815
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,719
Speaker 1: you think we're going to see him in a starting spot?

1816
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 1: Is it going to be fits his team for the

1817
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 1: first few weeks? What do you think? Yeah, I think

1818
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: it will be. Um. You know, he's worked with schan Gailey,

1819
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 1: as you guys know very well, had some success there.

1820
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: He got paid with schan Gailey and Shan Gailey as

1821
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,639
Speaker 1: their new coordinator. They're an interesting team because on paper,

1822
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 1: man that roster, I still don't see it, and I

1823
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 1: still think they're pretty talent pore and they won some

1824
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 1: games against the bad teams, but they are starting over

1825
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 1: on offense in terms of their system and even their

1826
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator is gone. I know Flora is a defensive guy,

1827
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: but man, on paper, I still look at them in

1828
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 1: the Jets and I see two of the worst teams

1829
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, and of course they could surprise,

1830
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes you can scratch out seven or

1831
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: eight wins, you know, just by good coaching. But to me,

1832
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: if you're the Patriots or or especially a Bills fan,

1833
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: I think you look at those two teams as on paper,

1834
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 1: still two of the weaker rosters in the NFL and

1835
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,560
Speaker 1: some teams that really should not be contending for a

1836
01:40:55,640 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: division title yet. Yeah, you look at the Dolphins. They

1837
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: the thing that surprised a lot of people about them

1838
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 1: last year was the fact that they were able to

1839
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: win five games. They Brian Flores seems to be a

1840
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 1: guy that they play hard for. They get he gets

1841
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 1: more out of that roster, which was I mean, let's

1842
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: let's face it, most of us thought they were tanking

1843
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 1: last year. And the way that works is that you know,

1844
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 1: everybody accept the guys in the locker room and the

1845
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 1: coaching staff are tanking. Uh, you know, the ownership and

1846
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 1: the GM and all those guys are they take all

1847
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:30,719
Speaker 1: the talent off the roster and they let the coaches

1848
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 1: and players get what they can get. Well, they got

1849
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 1: pretty good with Brian Flores, particularly in the second half

1850
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: of the season. How much of that can they carry over.

1851
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 1: I know there's going to be a huge roster turnover

1852
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: in Miami, but still that vibe has got to be

1853
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 1: present there. Absolutely, he was impressive, Brian Flores. I mean,

1854
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 1: anyone that's ever spoken with them, has been in a room.

1855
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 1: He is an impressive guy. And I think they found

1856
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 1: the right guy. And that's that's the number one most

1857
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 1: important thing to do is find your coach and find

1858
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 1: your QB. So we'll find up, we'll find out about

1859
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 1: Tuah and maybe they can overachieve again because man, man,

1860
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 1: they were tough schematically in what they were doing to

1861
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 1: other defenses. Really, I mean, people remember that Titans game

1862
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 1: with the Patriots is kind of ending the Tom Brady era,

1863
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 1: But to me, that it ended when the Dolphins beat

1864
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: him in Week seventeen to knock him out of that spot,

1865
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 1: and that was all coaching. To me. The talent should

1866
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: be better. That's, you know, if you're a Dolphin, spanned

1867
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 1: something to be excited about for the future. And and

1868
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: maybe he'll prove me wrong. But man, on paper, I

1869
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I don't see a lot

1870
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 1: of better than average starting NFL players on that roster,

1871
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be up to Florist that to really

1872
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: teach them and coach them up. Let's round out the

1873
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 1: division with the Jets. I mean, Sam Darnold has mono

1874
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 1: last year. Leve Bell doesn't do what a lot of

1875
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: us thought he would do in that conference on that team,

1876
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: and the Jets go quietly through free agency and revamp

1877
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 1: their offensive line. They drafted a guy like McKay Beckton.

1878
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: But again, you look at the roster and I think

1879
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of question marks here. What can

1880
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 1: this team do in twenty twenties. Adam Gaze on a

1881
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:14,600
Speaker 1: hot seat this year? Yeah, I mean you alas on

1882
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 1: the hot seat in New York, and especially a guy

1883
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,600
Speaker 1: with Gaze who had his issues with players as that

1884
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,719
Speaker 1: his issues with the media, And I think the number

1885
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is is he really making Sam Darnold better?

1886
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: Is he is he improving Darnold? Because I've went and

1887
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:38,560
Speaker 1: watched I went and watched his pape and I've not

1888
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 1: been overly impressed like he hasn't been super accurate. His

1889
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 1: decision making hasn't been great, and I know there hasn't

1890
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,559
Speaker 1: been a lot of talent around him, but you still

1891
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: want to see some maturation when he is protected well.

1892
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: And I think he's been up and down, and so

1893
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,560
Speaker 1: again the Jets, Dolpin. You could say this about the

1894
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: building pages too. I think they were helped by the

1895
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 1: schedule a year ago, you know, just on paper, that's

1896
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:01,879
Speaker 1: how it worked out. Ended up not having tough schedules,

1897
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: and on paper at least it looks a lot tougher

1898
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 1: out of the division schedule this year. We're talking with

1899
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 1: Greig Rosenthal, NFL dot COM's Around the National Football he editor,

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Speaker 1: if you spread out and in the current times in

1901
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 1: which we live, one name that has been thrown around

1902
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Speaker 1: of late, that particularly even by the Commissioner of the

1903
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 1: Football himself, Roger Goodell, is Colin Kaepernick. Now, we just

1904
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 1: heard in an update at the top of the hour

1905
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Speaker 1: that Anthony Lynn and the Los Angeles Chargers have Kaepernick

1906
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 1: on their workout list for this offseason. Do you think

1907
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 1: it's in the cards for Colin Kaepernick to get a

1908
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: chance to suit up in an NFL uniform again? I'm

1909
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 1: skeptical because I've been skeptical throughout you know, I sort

1910
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 1: of thought that that workout last year was maybe his

1911
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 1: last chance. I could be wrong. Obviously, he's earned the

1912
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:55,680
Speaker 1: right to play. You know, there's literally no history of

1913
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: a player like him who was a starter and as

1914
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 1: productive as he was. Not saying he was the best

1915
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 1: start in the league, but the last time he played

1916
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:04,600
Speaker 1: he was still you know, an effective player, you know,

1917
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,679
Speaker 1: just being out of the league. So there, he's earned

1918
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: a chance to play in the league. It's going to

1919
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: take an owner, I think, to step up and make

1920
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Speaker 1: the decision on some level. You know, I think it's

1921
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:16,640
Speaker 1: going to take an owner to say, look, this is

1922
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 1: I think we should do this, not just because um,

1923
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, we need help at quarterback, but because we

1924
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Speaker 1: think this is the right thing to do for the NFL,

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01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 1: you know, and for a field. And that's I really

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Speaker 1: believe a decision that's going to come down to ownership

1927
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Speaker 1: because you know, even back when you think about twenty seventeen, um,

1928
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, I had heard there there were some coaching

1929
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: staffs Baltimore certainly indicated, um that they kind of wanted

1930
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 1: to bring Kaepernick in, and it didn't happen, And you know,

1931
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Speaker 1: I think you have to look above that. This is

1932
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 1: a decision that that ownership is going to have to

1933
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Speaker 1: be a part of. In terms of bringing Kaepernick in.

1934
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Speaker 1: We're seeing a new wave of quarterbacks in this league.

1935
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 1: You look at some of the younger quarterbacks who have

1936
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 1: added a lot to the game, not only with their arms,

1937
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 1: but what they can do on their feet, the creativity

1938
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 1: of their mind. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Deshaun Watson. In Washington,

1939
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 1: you have Dwayne Haskins. Not so much of a great

1940
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 1: year last year from him. But is it too early

1941
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 1: to give up on a quarterback like that in Washington? Yeah?

1942
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 1: I think so. And he's he's interesting because he was

1943
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 1: a one year starter. He doesn't fit in as well

1944
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: with like the mobile, you know, the type quarterbacks. He's

1945
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 1: more of a pocket guy. And maybe it's my old

1946
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:34,639
Speaker 1: school thinking, but man, I am impressed watching him. Sometimes

1947
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 1: he's inconsistent, but he does do some things that you

1948
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 1: don't see young quarterbacks do, which is anticipate throws, go

1949
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 1: through his reads. Um, you know that's the type of

1950
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,680
Speaker 1: quarterback he is. Uh. You know there was issues off

1951
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 1: the field where you know, some of the coaches players.

1952
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 1: You hear good things this offseason, and I think it

1953
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:57,799
Speaker 1: is too early because he has some of the skills

1954
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: that that have been traditionally very highly valued. Uh you

1955
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 1: know in terms of a pocket quarterback. It's just he's

1956
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 1: got to grow up and he's got to fit into

1957
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 1: this system now with Scott Turner North, Turner's son coming

1958
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 1: over from Carolina and hopefully for him that's a good fit.

1959
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure that this staff though, is

1960
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 1: married to him. So he's got to show it basically

1961
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 1: this year or else they're gonna move on. Greg. I

1962
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 1: have one last question for We've talked about the AFC

1963
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:26,560
Speaker 1: East and the Bills, and the Bills have you know,

1964
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 1: got higher expectations. They've been in the playoffs two of

1965
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 1: the last three years, but we've also been one of

1966
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 1: those teams in the past where maybe they're off the radar.

1967
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: Do you have a one or two or maybe a

1968
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 1: handful of teams that have been off the radar for

1969
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 1: a while and you think this might be the year

1970
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:46,719
Speaker 1: they jump back into the playoff mode. That's a good question.

1971
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 1: Um Nah, the Bengals, that would be that would be

1972
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 1: a long way up how about the Raiders. Um, you know,

1973
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're ever totally off the radar

1974
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 1: because they are the Raiders, but I really you know,

1975
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,679
Speaker 1: I went through that the projected Starters series that you mentioned,

1976
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 1: and they were a team that I was really impressed by.

1977
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 1: The more I looked at their roster. I think they're

1978
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 1: really solid and Mike Mayock's done a smart job kind

1979
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 1: of building up that group over the last few years.

1980
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 1: And I think if you look at the AFC West,

1981
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of you know, there's a few intrinking teams,

1982
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 1: both the Broncos, the Chargers, and the Raiders. Like someone's

1983
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 1: got to step up out of those three teams and

1984
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 1: kind of be a wildcard team behind Kansas City, maybe

1985
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: win ten eleven games. And I like the Raiders. They

1986
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of room to improve on defense, and

1987
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 1: on paper, I do think their defense is better, and

1988
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 1: I think Ruten showed some things that he's not totally

1989
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 1: passed this prime or anything, and that they're a team

1990
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:41,639
Speaker 1: that I think could maybe win with a ball control

1991
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: maybe not the most exciting style brand of football in

1992
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 1: the world, but one that would get Las Vegas into

1993
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 1: being a winner in their first year there. Hey, Greg,

1994
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on with us. I know it's it's

1995
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:55,759
Speaker 1: kind of hard sometimes in the midst of this pandemic

1996
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 1: to carve out time when you're working from home and

1997
01:48:58,120 --> 01:48:59,680
Speaker 1: everything else is going on, But thanks so much for

1998
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Speaker 1: take some time with us today. Appreciate it. Steve talked

1999
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 1: to you guys later. Greg Rosenthal NFL dot com, Around

2000
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 1: the NFL Editor. He's a host of Around the NFL

2001
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 1: podcast as well. We're happy to have him on Raddy.

2002
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 1: He's got so a pretty good handle on what's going on,

2003
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 1: particularly in this division, and that for a guy who

2004
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 1: grew up around the Boston area. I think he's I'm

2005
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 1: he's more in line with what I think about what

2006
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots are gonna do. I have a hard time

2007
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 1: seeing the Patriots disappear. Everybody's saying, you know, they're gonna

2008
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:29,679
Speaker 1: be they're a sixth win team, They're a seven win team.

2009
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:32,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna I don't know. I've said up for a

2010
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 1: long time. I still think the Patriots have ten wins

2011
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: in him this season, even without Tom Brady. And I

2012
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 1: can tell by look on your face you think I'm nuts. No,

2013
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I agree with you. I wish it was

2014
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:47,640
Speaker 1: the other way. But you still have Bill Belichick with

2015
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I mean, you don't only win because of

2016
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Yes, Tom Brady is a great quarterback, but

2017
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't the only reason for their success. They had

2018
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 1: a really good defense last year and that defense helped

2019
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: them get lot of wins when Tom Brady was struggling.

2020
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 1: Twelve twelve wins to be exact. Yeah, they won twelve

2021
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 1: games when they stunk. That's that's what gets me. Luckily,

2022
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: we still have the Jets and the Dolphins that can't

2023
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 1: get out of their own you know, we can. We

2024
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 1: can take some solace in the fact the other half

2025
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 1: of the division is still struggling. I don't know, I'm

2026
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 1: maybe I'm maybe I'm just emotionally scarred from the last

2027
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 1: two decades. Maybe I don't think so. I think you're

2028
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 1: in line. Hey, coachman, Thurmot and Brandon Bean say, can't

2029
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 1: beat the best until you beat the bust and not

2030
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:38,560
Speaker 1: to be in the Patriots, So to be determined on

2031
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 1: that one. All right, what rookie is gonna make the

2032
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: biggest impact for the Buffalo Bills? A j Epeneza, Zach Moss, Tyler,

2033
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 1: Bass Gabriel Davi. You tell us. You can call us

2034
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 1: at eight to three h five fifty or tweet at

2035
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 1: us if you'd like as well. Steve Tasker Matic lab

2036
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 1: here till three. This is One Bills Live presented by

2037
01:50:55,479 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 1: Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one

2038
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 1: of Bill's livest tasker, Maddie Glad. We were having an

2039
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 1: animated or at least I was having an animated conversation

2040
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 1: during the break and nobody else was chiming in. I

2041
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 1: was bow guarding the mic again, but talking about talking

2042
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 1: about the show. It had slipped by today. We had

2043
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 1: a great guest yes line up. Fred Smurtles came in

2044
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 1: at twelve thirty. Troy Vincent was on. The executive vice

2045
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 1: president of Football Operations for the NFL was on, and

2046
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: we just got through with Greg Rosenthal, who's the NFL

2047
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:37,679
Speaker 1: dot Com around the NFL editor. We also had some soundbites.

2048
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:41,680
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott spoke live to the local media here in

2049
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo for the last time before training camp. He had

2050
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 1: some interesting things to say, and of course he was

2051
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:51,719
Speaker 1: asked early on about how this virtual offseason has gone

2052
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 1: for his players, and this is what Sean McDermott a

2053
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 1: little of what Sean McDermott said about this virtual offseason.

2054
01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: To me, it's a it's a reflection on that we're

2055
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,680
Speaker 1: capable or a lot more sometimes than we think we're

2056
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 1: capable of. Right. It's a great example of that. And

2057
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 1: to sit here now, if you would have asked me

2058
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 1: would we be able to get this done back three

2059
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 1: four months ago, I guess four or five months ago,

2060
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 1: to execute what we've been able to execute, and at

2061
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 1: the level that we've been able to execute it at,

2062
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 1: I would have said, that's going to be a very

2063
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: heavy lift, and it has been. That said, it's it's

2064
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 1: been to me just incredible to watch our team come

2065
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 1: together from not just our players, our players being one

2066
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 1: of them, but the staff, the support that we get

2067
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 1: from our IT department. Everyone in our building has had

2068
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:48,600
Speaker 1: to do things just like you have to make what

2069
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 1: used to be easy become reality now. And so I

2070
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 1: think that's been really cool to watch the human spirit

2071
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 1: at work, not only in our building, but also in

2072
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 1: our community as well. With Sean McDermott earlier today Live

2073
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 1: to the Media, and we've also asked our listeners you

2074
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: guys as well, which rookie's gonna make the biggest impact.

2075
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 1: We have a bunch of tweets on the tweet sheet.

2076
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 1: Let's go to the tweet sheet brought to you by Skyworks,

2077
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 1: the official construction equipment rental Company. I'm sorry, that's not right.

2078
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm reading the wrong read Maddie, the show's flying by

2079
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:24,920
Speaker 1: because I'm doing a different show that the tweet sheet

2080
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: brought to buy Corrigan Moving Systems Official Equipment Movie. I'm

2081
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 1: a horrible radio. We have one more tweet from the

2082
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. Go ahead, Maddie, all right. The last one

2083
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 1: is from Eric. He says, if Bass earns the kicker spot,

2084
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 1: I think it will be him because he will have

2085
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 1: an impact on points more than any other rookie. But

2086
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 1: Moss is going to be the most fun to watch.

2087
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 1: He's a beast. That's right. Yeah, that's what we've kind

2088
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 1: of It's been along the lines of what we've been saying, um,

2089
01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 1: all morning, all day about you know who's going to

2090
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 1: be the most fun to watch? Which which rookie you're

2091
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 1: really gonna have to watch out for? And I think

2092
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 1: most people think Zach Moss is gonna be a lot

2093
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 1: of fun to watch, but Aj Epanezza. They think is

2094
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:12,600
Speaker 1: the guy who's sixty The sorry Zach Moss is like

2095
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 1: grabbing a ton of the percentage of the tweet of

2096
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: the Twitter opinions thus far. So I don't know, it's

2097
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 1: hard to get it because you can't. You don't know

2098
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 1: what the roster's gonna look like. If Zach Moss, I'm sorry,

2099
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: If Tyler Bass makes this squad, it's hands down he's

2100
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 1: gonna have the biggest impact. Do you not agree? I

2101
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 1: agree because if he makes the squid, he's going to

2102
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 1: be the kicker. And if you know, makes the squad

2103
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 1: and wins that job, I should say he'll be the kicker.

2104
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 1: And you think about how much of a role a

2105
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 1: kicker plays on new team, especially in some big moments.

2106
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's gonna have a huge impact and

2107
01:54:56,680 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 1: hopefully a very positive impact. And also the thing what

2108
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Speaker 1: he has to do to win that job is quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. I mean, you have the tape on him

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Speaker 1: from playing at Georgia Southern, and you have a lot

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Speaker 1: more tape on Stephen Haushka, and we all know House

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Speaker 1: Money's pretty good in the playoffs when it comes to

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Speaker 1: kicking field goals. So I think Tyler Bass would have

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Speaker 1: to have to do quite a bit to win that job. Also,

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Speaker 1: he's never kicked in the cold before. He went to

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Speaker 1: Georgia Southern, which is a very warm states and a warm,

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Speaker 1: a game at Georgia Southern. He's probably had to happen

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Speaker 1: at some point, some weird you know, maybe once or twice.

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Speaker 1: But living got justings so right exactly. So Zach Moss

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Speaker 1: really ran away with the Twitter pool today. Sixty percent

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Speaker 1: of you thought Zach Moss is gonna have the biggest impact.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven percent of you thought a Japanezza, then Tyler

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Speaker 1: Bass and Gabriel Davis with eight five percent respectively. That's

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for NFL? True false? Maddie, I say

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Speaker 1: let's do it. I do too. Let's do it all right,

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Speaker 1: Let's be here we go from CBS Sports NFL true false.

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Speaker 1: Let me just get this right NFL true false. Brought

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Speaker 1: NFL true false Number one. This was unbelievable. I saw

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Speaker 1: this and I shouldn't believe it, and you can. Whenever

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Speaker 1: they do these rankings, you know, there's always a guy

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Speaker 1: they forget, or a guy that you know, you think

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Speaker 1: should have been in there and wasn't. Whatever. But CBS

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Speaker 1: Sports had their top ten quarterback ranking. That's for this

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Speaker 1: season on the teams we have now, not historically or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's it's these guys that are in the league right

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Speaker 1: now that are projected to be starters. Who are the

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Speaker 1: top ten quarterbacks? They left out Aaron Rodgers True or false.

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Speaker 1: The Q in CBS sports top ten quarterback ranking was

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Speaker 1: correct in leaving out Aaron Rodgers. True or false. Maddie

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Speaker 1: m False. They were not right in leaving out Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers still has some left in his tank.

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Speaker 1: Even though the Packers drafted a quarterback, doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is losing his job this season. He's still

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Speaker 1: very talented. So I think false. They were not right

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Speaker 1: in leaving him out right that it's hard to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you think, wow, it's crazy. You know, they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna do that. They're not gonna leave. How

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Speaker 1: do you leave Aaron Rodgers out? I guess as you know.

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Speaker 1: But here's the guys that are in it. I mean, it's,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's the usual suspects. Number ten has Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger if he comes back healthy man, Okay. Then nine

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Speaker 1: they put to Tom Brady. What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Not put him on there? Carson wentz above Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Maybe I have a hard time

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Speaker 1: with that one. Matthew Stafford, I don't know. I don't know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson the Texans, Hey, he beat us in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: He's yeah, he made the play that made the game.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Yeah, okay, Dak Prescott, okay, those are gotten yeah,

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Speaker 1: Drew Breath okay, Russell Wilson. Of course, number two was

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Of course number one is Mahomes. But you

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Speaker 1: get down there into seven, eight and nine, and you've

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Speaker 1: got Matt Stafford and Carson wentz U ahead of Aaron Rodgers. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time, and I'm sorry, I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. I'm gonna say false. They were not corrected,

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Speaker 1: leaving Aaron Rodgers off the NFL's top ten quarterback List

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Speaker 1: NFL True false Number two. The Cleveland Browns running back

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb is the best running back in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League True or false? Um? False? Do we do

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Speaker 1: we know that Derreck Henry and Christian McCaffrey exists in

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Speaker 1: this league? Chubb? Yeah? Maybe Nick Chubb can grow into

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Speaker 1: being in that conversation. But Nick Chubb is still so

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Speaker 1: young in this league. He hasn't done with Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: and Derreck Henry, Like, what right, what universe did they?

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Speaker 1: You know, are they watching that that Nick, that McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry are behind that guy? Yeah? That is

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Speaker 1: that is so false. I mean it's yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: like Devin Singletary better than him too, So there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they get into these things, they start ranking these guys

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Speaker 1: and all, and everybody's got issue with it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's the way, it's what's supposed to do. It is

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Speaker 1: supposed to generate conversation. But come on, you gotta try harder, Right,

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb is a is a great dude, and he's

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Speaker 1: he's you know, good running back, no question. He belongs

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Speaker 1: to the National Football League, right, But you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know all right, here, we go. Okay, here we go,

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Speaker 1: all right, here we go NFL true false numbers is

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Speaker 1: the last one. Thirty seven year old Larry Fitzgerald is

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Speaker 1: the best grizzled veteran in the National Football League. There's

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Speaker 1: an article came out of that, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: five grizzled veterans who can still dominate. So what the

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Speaker 1: question is is he's not. He may be the great,

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Speaker 1: but is he the one who can still play really well?

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Speaker 1: And Larry Fitzgerald, who's thirty seven years old, is one.

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Speaker 1: Frank Gore is the other Bills fans know him. Jason

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Speaker 1: Witton tied end now he's with the Raiders. Andrew Whitworth

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Speaker 1: left tackle for the Los Angeles Rams. And of course

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Speaker 1: then there's the the guy in Tampa Bay, the quarterback

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Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay, Tom Brady. So you got those five guys,

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Speaker 1: and the question is, is Larry Fitzgerald probably the best

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Speaker 1: at his position than any of those other guys are

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Speaker 1: at their position? Frank Gore, Andrew Whitworth, Jason Whitton, Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady for his age, and I think Tom Brady would

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Speaker 1: probably be the best. Fitzgerald is a talented receiver, yes,

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Speaker 1: but I think Tom Brady has a bigger impact on

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Speaker 1: the game with what he brings to is Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, mad girl. Is Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: better at playing quarterback now than Larry Fitzgerald is at

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Speaker 1: playing wide receiver? Now? That's the question. What do you think? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think Larry Fitzgerald's better now. He's that the athletic

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Speaker 1: ability that he shows and the and the steady nature.

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Speaker 1: This is the guy that has caught as many touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He's top two or three of every significant wide receiver

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Speaker 1: category that's ever been put together. And he's done it

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Speaker 1: with like nine thousand different quarterbacks playing in his in

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Speaker 1: his long and illustrious career. He's done it with nobody's

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Speaker 1: He's done it with great players like Carson Palmer and

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Speaker 1: Kurt Warner. When he had great quarterback, they were good.

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Speaker 1: But when they didn't, he was good and nobody else was.

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Speaker 1: I just think he has been as good a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver as has ever played the game. But no question

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Speaker 1: about it, because he didn't have He had one Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer throwing him the football, that was Kurt Warner,

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Speaker 1: and when he did, they went right to the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl out of the blue. So I think Larry Fitzgerald right,

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Speaker 1: even now at thirty seven, he's probably more dominant at

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Speaker 1: his position than Tom Brady or Andrew Whitworth or Jason

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Speaker 1: Witton are at their position. So I'm gonna say true,

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Speaker 1: I think Larry Fitzgerald is the best, the best grizzled

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Speaker 1: veteran in the NFL, just for those reasons. And I

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Speaker 1: get it, Tom, it's hard to be a starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. But you also got a note Dave

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's thirty eight two, so's Philip Rivers. So there's

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Speaker 1: three guys. There's three guys at that position even this

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Speaker 1: year that are still playing at that spot. And Larry

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Speaker 1: is the only thirty seven year old receiver in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. You know what I mean. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not a Tom Brady fan, but I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna stick with thinking that Tom's the most season fat

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Layer's numbers from last two years. Seven

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Speaker 1: hundred thirty four yards in twenty eighteen, eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: four yards in twenty nineteen, had four touchdowns last year.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with Tom on this one, all right.

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Speaker 1: You can do that. You can you're entitled your wrong opinion. Disagree.

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Speaker 1: That's why we have this NFL True false brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Yancey's fancy New York's artist and she's good stuff. Today, Mattie,

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Speaker 1: it was a fun show. We're not quite done yet.

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Speaker 1: We had Fred Smerlass on the all time Great Bills

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle on. He has some things to say, not

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Speaker 1: only about the go fund me page for his old

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Speaker 1: teammate Ben Ways, but also about the NFL and the

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Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills. To Troy Vincent, NFL Executive VP

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Speaker 1: of Football Operations, was on earlier today. You guys, you

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Speaker 1: can catch him at on our podcasts that are available

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Speaker 1: on all the platforms, the website and the app. And

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02:03:59,080 --> 02:04:02,880
Speaker 1: also Greg rosen Thall, NFL dot COM's NFL editor. Lots

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Speaker 1: going on, We've got coming up tomorrow. We've got Ben

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Speaker 1: Volin Ben volein Boston Globe who's also a national reporter

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Speaker 1: on the NFL. He'll be on with us tomorrow as well.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back Steve Tasker, Mattie Glab One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio, presented by Kalidah Health and

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Speaker 1: this is One Bills live where we learned. Brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. We Ask spreads our friends Fred Smerlass

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Speaker 1: on why he and his teammates started the go fund

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Speaker 1: me page to help a fallen friend, Ben Williams, who

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Speaker 1: had long suffered from dementia and passed away this last month.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Fred said, Really, what would like to do?

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Speaker 1: My wife and I would like to make enough money

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Speaker 1: that we can build Benny a house down there or Bayola.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're doing pretty well right now, but they're

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Speaker 1: out in a rented house and they have their Benny's

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Speaker 1: grandkids are with his His wife and his kids are there,

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Speaker 1: so he has a lot of pressure on him. I

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Speaker 1: mean she does. It's a wonderful woman. But if they

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Speaker 1: can help out in any way, we appreciate it. A dollar,

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Speaker 1: ten dollars whatever, to come at whatever, But the vast

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Speaker 1: amount of people contributing is making a difference. So we'd

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Speaker 1: like to get Benny, Benny's wife a house. She's a

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Speaker 1: wonderful woman and she took care of Benny for a

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Speaker 1: long time. She had to quit her job because you know,

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Speaker 1: he needed twenty four to seven help all the time.

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Speaker 1: So she's done a great job and she'd be great

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Speaker 1: if we could make enough money like that builds a

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Speaker 1: friendsive tackle Fred Smerless on that go fund meat page.

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Speaker 1: We also had as a guest on our show the

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Speaker 1: NFL executive vice President of Football Operations, Troy Vincent, and

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Speaker 1: he told us how the NFL is responding to making

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Speaker 1: change amid the racial injustices in our country. Here's what

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Speaker 1: Troy said. We have to look and say what are

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Speaker 1: we doing? Organizationally? We can't give practices or advice to

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Speaker 1: individuals when we're not practicing ourselves. That is in New York,

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Speaker 1: that's in LA in New Jersey to thirty two individual clubs.

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Speaker 1: And before we can go out and give advice to others,

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Speaker 1: we have to examine what are we doing. So if sport,

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Speaker 1: we're in a perfect position to share in on the

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Speaker 1: responsibility of driving chains. The young people have throwed in

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Speaker 1: the challenge flag and they are challenging us black white

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Speaker 1: across the globe. They are challenging us as leaders, as

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Speaker 1: adults to do better. And there's a chance here. Now,

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Speaker 1: what are we going to do coming out of here?

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Speaker 1: That was Troy Vincent, NFL executive vice president. On our

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Speaker 1: show today. You can catch a lot of what we

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Speaker 1: did on our podcasts on the Bills on Buffalo bills

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Speaker 1: dot com and the Bills app as well. Mattie Good

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Speaker 1: Show today, very busy, a lot of good guests. What

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Speaker 1: did you think about Sean mcdermot's comments today. He always

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Speaker 1: impresses me with his leadership, even in those live whom

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Speaker 1: things where they're asking them all kinds of questions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm always love hearing from coach. One other thing that

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Speaker 1: I forgot to add about that is he talked about

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Speaker 1: some leaders that he's seen through these virtual meetings, those

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Speaker 1: being John Feliciano, Jordan Poyer, Reid Ferguson, and Mario Addison.

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Speaker 1: So look for those four to start doing some things

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Speaker 1: with the team leadership wise once they get back together. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun having those guys on the show.

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Speaker 1: Listen to Sean today and someone hopefully can get those

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Speaker 1: guys on the show during the season. Tomorrow. Joel Corey

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Speaker 1: NFL Sports. He's their capologist, he's a former agent. He's

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Speaker 1: coming on with us and tomorrow at two o'clock. Ben

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Speaker 1: villein at the Boston Globes, Steve Tasker, Matti glab thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us today. We appreciate it. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: with you tomorrow. This has been One Bill's Live, presented

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