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Speaker 1: but we got plenty to talk about and how you
Speaker 1: guys do it. It's the wildest start to an NFL
Speaker 1: season we've ever seen. Get Ready, Kaepernick's about to sign.
Speaker 1: That would take it a whole other level. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: so much tea being served all over the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: guys want now it's being served t that's like the
Speaker 1: millennial's way of like what is it? Rob explaining what
Speaker 1: is it? Te Lindsay uses it all the time. So
Speaker 1: it's tea. It's like rumor speculation. What is it? Just shade? Yeah, people,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up. People come playing about stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like the little gift of a Kermit the frog
Speaker 1: sipping the tea and that's kind of sweetened or unsweetened.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It's impet absolutely is it hot tears
Speaker 1: it iced tea? It could be either either one teas tea. Okay,
Speaker 1: so like it's hot tea. Yeah, all right. So since
Speaker 1: Rob brought that up, what type of tea would you
Speaker 1: like to start with? Well, I mean you started a
Speaker 1: start taco yay, Well there you go. Do you have
Speaker 1: to die in or can you get him the tacos
Speaker 1: to go? You're gonna have some sweet tea with that taco? Sure? Sure?
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? Well? The h the owner and
Speaker 1: president general manager, was on a radio station locally earlier.
Speaker 1: Try he said, um, Jerry said, in no ways he
Speaker 1: dismissing Taco Charlton on this football team here, even though
Speaker 1: he's been inactive, even though Brian brought us has for
Speaker 1: a couple of games. Brian has said, you've said it.
Speaker 1: You know, if he's not active two weeks in a row. Sure,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm own front office anymore. Probably. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: but look at the roster right now. They I know
Speaker 1: you're getting Quinn back, Yeah, but you got a couple
Speaker 1: injuries up front. I know he's not really a guy.
Speaker 1: They say you can move inside um and play tackle.
Speaker 1: But we always talk about how great depth is until
Speaker 1: you don't have it anymore. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. Just you just get the feeling.
Speaker 1: And I think I think Dave said this this morning
Speaker 1: on cover four. It's like all this social media stuff,
Speaker 1: something's got to give at some point, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's making clear what I that he's at odds with
Speaker 1: the organization over the way he used or not. Now
Speaker 1: he's playing. He's he's playing the odds. Yeah, because guess
Speaker 1: what if he's with him or not. Here he knows
Speaker 1: he's guaranteed over these next two years one point eight
Speaker 1: million dollars, so it doesn't matter if he plays or
Speaker 1: he's cut. He's gonna make his money. So he's playing
Speaker 1: the odds. That's here. I get that. But but but
Speaker 1: this team gets back to practice on Wednesday. How do
Speaker 1: you how does that play in the locker room? I
Speaker 1: know nothing back to work. I think that ship has
Speaker 1: already sailed for him already. This is where Mickey and
Speaker 1: I was walking late last night and I was listening
Speaker 1: to our show again, and I thought Mickey made a
Speaker 1: really good point yesterday. And we probably missed it when
Speaker 1: he said it, but no, and I and I was
Speaker 1: thinking about it, and he's not wrong about this, you know,
Speaker 1: because he and I had this discussion late. I mean
Speaker 1: it was late in the show. Yeah, that was good stuff. Well,
Speaker 1: appreciate that, But Micky made a point about Crawford, and
Speaker 1: you don't know the health of Crawford. So to me,
Speaker 1: are you protecting yourself by just saying, Okay, let him complain,
Speaker 1: let him pout, let him do whatever he wants. But
Speaker 1: we're going to protect ourselves here if in fact that
Speaker 1: they don't have that, you know, if all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: what if they have to make him okay, they get
Speaker 1: rid of Taco, then thenk Crawford can't go. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, they're they're banged up right now, they're
Speaker 1: just starting right And I'm sorry, Yeah, no, you're you're right.
Speaker 1: And it's to Mickey's point which he made yesterday, which
Speaker 1: I think is absolutely right. I'm star listening. I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: just move on from him. Let's not be a distraction.
Speaker 1: Let's not. But it's logical thinking that. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: care if you're complaining or what. Just okay, stay over there.
Speaker 1: We'll practice you on. The scout team will hold on
Speaker 1: to you until we need you. You know. And to me,
Speaker 1: as as a former personnel guy, that makes sense because
Speaker 1: if you're not sure of the health of Tyrone Crawford,
Speaker 1: if all of a sudden the hip is flaring up again,
Speaker 1: and now it is and it is. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're saying to yourself, like, well, what if we
Speaker 1: get rid of this guy and then something happens, we
Speaker 1: don't have a replacement for you know, at least Taco
Speaker 1: you would, you would put it now. I think that
Speaker 1: you guys are all right about the room. I think
Speaker 1: the room has I think the room has moved on
Speaker 1: from him. You know, maybe maybe the coaching staff has
Speaker 1: moved on. Scouts could say, whoa wait a minute, we
Speaker 1: still got this guy. That's my other question. I mentioned
Speaker 1: the locker room, but how does it played with the staff.
Speaker 1: You know, Jason was asked about it yesterday and he
Speaker 1: you know, shocker, he's not on social media. That's not
Speaker 1: his thing. But like, how did do you think rod is?
Speaker 1: I don't think Rogers, God damn what. I don't even
Speaker 1: think Christopher shard Is. I think Christopher Sharpe puts his
Speaker 1: head down and goes to work. Yeah, but how did
Speaker 1: what's the message from the coaching staff to Tacco after
Speaker 1: all this? I mean, it's just it's just a weird deal.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's you know what it's. It's this
Speaker 1: is where the general manager has to step in and
Speaker 1: tell the head coach to tell the staff that listen,
Speaker 1: we're keeping this guy. We're gonna keep this guy because
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna need him. It might not be week
Speaker 1: two or week three or week four, but maybe in
Speaker 1: week seven or week eight. We're gonna need this guy.
Speaker 1: And if we get rid of him now, then we
Speaker 1: don't have that to fall back on. You know, unless
Speaker 1: you're unless you're okay, you know, with bringing somebody off
Speaker 1: up off the practice squad, you know, unless you're unless
Speaker 1: you're interested in, you know, I'm thinking a guy like
Speaker 1: Daniel Wise or somebody like that. Unless you're interested in
Speaker 1: and bringing one of those guys up to play defensive
Speaker 1: end and play you know, defensive tackle. But Micky was
Speaker 1: right yesterday, and I quickly, I quickly dismissed him for saying,
Speaker 1: move on, Mickey, damnit, move on, you know, and give
Speaker 1: him up your hot boys card. Well, but you know
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. This could very well be the
Speaker 1: front office going out and saying and again, the owner,
Speaker 1: general manager, president could be saying, listen, Jason, I've seen
Speaker 1: what's going to happen here. I'm getting medical reports on this.
Speaker 1: You're hearing the same thing about these guys were banged
Speaker 1: up there. Just keep the guy. Finally, what did they
Speaker 1: do last year with with Jordan Lewis? They kept him ready,
Speaker 1: They kept him ready. They put him on offense to
Speaker 1: run jet sweeps. When when when when Jordan Lewis was
Speaker 1: all of a sudden over there pouting because he wasn't
Speaker 1: playing because Chris Rochard didn't really like him, you know,
Speaker 1: But what did they do? They kept him? Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: Scott Linahan said, hey, I'll take him over here, bring
Speaker 1: him over here, runs jet sweet What next? You know,
Speaker 1: he's the player the game against the Saints because they
Speaker 1: found a role for him. Yeah, this Taco need to
Speaker 1: be quiet, absolutely, but the front office needs to like
Speaker 1: to say, don't listen to him, don't listen to him,
Speaker 1: don't listen to him. We're gonna need him to play
Speaker 1: for us, and hopefully he will play for I don't
Speaker 1: disagree with that because we always talk about but we
Speaker 1: get questions for fans, like in camp. You know, we
Speaker 1: got so much depth here, could we trade this guy?
Speaker 1: And I'm always hesitant to do that because injuries happen.
Speaker 1: Look at look at how look David Woods, Antoine Woods,
Speaker 1: Michael Gal all of a sudden, Now two games in
Speaker 1: you got some key guys that are hurt and might
Speaker 1: miss some time here. So you know, I'm with that.
Speaker 1: It's just the Taco thing is just it continues to
Speaker 1: get worse in terms of well, it's only worse if
Speaker 1: you pay attention to social media. I'm am I right, no,
Speaker 1: because I mean, he's he making a stink in the
Speaker 1: locker room? Is he making a stink with the assistant
Speaker 1: coaches at social media? You? Oh, we don't know, we don't,
Speaker 1: but this is the day, day and age. Yeah, where
Speaker 1: we're at. Look, he's frustrated, though, Mick, Well, but let him.
Speaker 1: Be frustrate it, get out there and play. I'm frustrated.
Speaker 1: I mean Crawford. Crawford had eighteen snaps in that game.
Speaker 1: Eighteen that was less than he had the first game. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: and Quinn's not going to come in and play sixty snaps.
Speaker 1: And what if they figure out that, you know what,
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson needs more time. You know, Joe Jackson is
Speaker 1: talking about flexibility. What if they determined that. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like, we like Joe Jackson, but you know, it
Speaker 1: would be nice if he could sit and kind of
Speaker 1: watch a little bit and learn. I understand, I understand
Speaker 1: where you're going here. I just wonder what point are
Speaker 1: you losing the player? The player is out there, because
Speaker 1: I'm with you guys, like I think he can help
Speaker 1: this team. We watched him in preseason. I thought he
Speaker 1: had a pretty good camp, the best he's ever had,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the best he's ever had. But where's
Speaker 1: he at with his I mean, based on social media, Mick,
Speaker 1: I know, it just doesn't seem like he's engaged with
Speaker 1: this football team right now, regardless of if they need
Speaker 1: him or not. Well. And and and you mentioned, I
Speaker 1: mean you mentioned Joe Jackson carry hider played thirty six
Speaker 1: snaps fifty eight percent. He got one tackle, yeah it
Speaker 1: no sacks, Yeah, they've had two sacks in two games
Speaker 1: and both you know, I mean had one. Let me
Speaker 1: ask this if if all of a sudden, and this
Speaker 1: is gonna sound crazy, if all of a sudden, Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory gets reinstated there next, do you feel maybe we
Speaker 1: maybe the staff changes a little bit there, different story,
Speaker 1: different story, different story, all of a sudden, It's like, wa,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, here's a guy that he's got he's
Speaker 1: got issues, we know this, but he loves to play football.
Speaker 1: We trust him, we like him, we start him, we
Speaker 1: do all these things. Yeah, if all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: if that turns, do you feel different about the taco situation?
Speaker 1: Maybe not us, not us Rob, but maybe them feel
Speaker 1: differ and about the taco situation. I get it. Mickey
Speaker 1: was absolutely right. I give him credit. I was walking
Speaker 1: and I was just I was listening, and I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, he's right. He is right. Plus from
Speaker 1: the owner's standpoint, he's paid him money, right, yeah, is
Speaker 1: this ain't monopoly, But he's also seen the good practices
Speaker 1: and he's also seen the good games. He's thinking if
Speaker 1: Tacco would went out there and bummed it up. You know,
Speaker 1: he hadn't played great, but he played better than he has.
Speaker 1: He can play. He can play for this deal. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, that doesn't like if you have
Speaker 1: an old card, don't you milk it for as long
Speaker 1: as you can because you paid for it. It's four
Speaker 1: million dollars in dead money if you cut him. So
Speaker 1: what do you do if you're Jason Garrett or Rod Marr?
Speaker 1: I mean, do you say, look, just just stay ready,
Speaker 1: just you know, I mean, what message you have to
Speaker 1: give to you know, I think, yeah, first met I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say smooth it over, first messages. Stay off
Speaker 1: social media, just canon that may have that may have happened.
Speaker 1: That may have happened yesterday, after that, after the free
Speaker 1: me tweeting, then he deleted it. Oh yeah, let me
Speaker 1: tell you this though, But if he's on social media,
Speaker 1: he's seen Jerry Jones's comments. Well that's what he was. Well,
Speaker 1: it was a Stephen Jones comment on the fan yesterday
Speaker 1: that he responded to someone tweeted it. But say today
Speaker 1: he's seen you're talking today's Jerry Jones. If I'm Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: I walk up to him and I put my arm
Speaker 1: around him and say, listen, man, it hasn't been easy.
Speaker 1: I get it. You're frustrated, you're mad. Hang with me here,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm hanging you know, you know you got
Speaker 1: to call him in and say pull him aside. Because
Speaker 1: if the coaches don't like him and his teammates don't
Speaker 1: like him, but the front office likes him and the
Speaker 1: owner likes him, that's all he needs. That's the only
Speaker 1: support he needs. He needs to go out there and practice.
Speaker 1: When they put him in situations there, the scout team
Speaker 1: or real team, he needs to be ready for those
Speaker 1: situations until further notice. Marathon of a season it is,
Speaker 1: and and and that's where I missed the point. I'm like,
Speaker 1: if he's inactive again, move on. But but there's there's
Speaker 1: some there's some method to their madness. Because if again,
Speaker 1: if I keep hearing reports that Crawford is not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent ready to go all the time, I'd better
Speaker 1: protect myself. I better protect myself because Mickey just told me, hey, wait,
Speaker 1: my alternative is playing Doran's armstrong Carrie Hyder. Those guys
Speaker 1: or two. That's who was in in the second half, Washington. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. Okay, So who are the true defensive
Speaker 1: ends on this roster? The inventory of the true defensive
Speaker 1: ends to Marcus Lawrence, Robert Quinny, Hyder Hyder, but he
Speaker 1: can play inside and play inside. Joe Jackson can play inside.
Speaker 1: Exact Cocco is purely a defensive end. Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: mean you take stock of those guys who can just
Speaker 1: play defensive end, right, and there's basically four guys there, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: and then you got Randy Gregory. Perhaps he's clouds somewhere.
Speaker 1: I've just kept him out of no I know, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if he if he does come back in
Speaker 1: now you're now you're you're dynamic changes. Yeah, in this
Speaker 1: marathon of a season. If that happened that mid season
Speaker 1: or whatever. And so I think sometimes in my own mind,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, Robert Quinn comes back, Well they've got
Speaker 1: to make a roster move, and that is the timeline.
Speaker 1: If things have soured with Taco, Well, maybe the timeline
Speaker 1: is actually further down the road. I threw this out
Speaker 1: there for that that Quinn move, and you know, you
Speaker 1: guys were talking about it. But Dalton Schultz, Yeah, I mean, sorry,
Speaker 1: what is the move that's going to happen this way?
Speaker 1: If it to me again, Dalton Schultz, if you look
Speaker 1: at the guys and Mickey likes to keep snap count totals,
Speaker 1: that's eight snaps in two games. You got older Wally
Speaker 1: that could play in preseason? What was older Wally doing?
Speaker 1: Mean those practices we saw him kind of playing as
Speaker 1: a wing and age at fullback, all that stuff. If
Speaker 1: you if you don't want to sacrifice Taco, if you
Speaker 1: don't want to sacrifice redman, if you don't want to
Speaker 1: sacrifice night, if you don't want to sack. Now, this
Speaker 1: all could change if in fact, and Mickey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you this, because you're a concussion expert. If if
Speaker 1: we if they don't get him back Wednesday, if if
Speaker 1: if Tabon's not practicing Wednesday, then I don't think he plays.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this whole. This is a mystery
Speaker 1: to me. Now, this is concussion stright because you just
Speaker 1: made a move. But because of Austin, you put him
Speaker 1: on ir with a concussion, which is the ability to
Speaker 1: come back in eight weeks if if need be. But
Speaker 1: I to me, if you just don't want to lose
Speaker 1: one of those, if you don't want to cut Taco
Speaker 1: and you don't want to lose one of these offensive linemen,
Speaker 1: and you don't want to lose Cedric Wilson, then maybe
Speaker 1: you need to think about Dalton Schultz. If what is
Speaker 1: Dalton shuts doing for your team? My initial reaction to
Speaker 1: that is, you can't have a just and understand Ola
Speaker 1: Wally can do some of the same tight end stuff,
Speaker 1: but you can't have just too tight end. If you're
Speaker 1: playing eleven personnel seventy percent of the time, why not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you did show that two tight end still works.
Speaker 1: And if you lose one, what do you do well?
Speaker 1: And then what do they think of I don't know
Speaker 1: how to pronounce his last name, the practice squad tight
Speaker 1: end Cole Haku. Yeah, tell what do they think of him?
Speaker 1: On the practice He did so because because the thing
Speaker 1: that will happen with Dalton Schultz, if you waved Dalton Schultz,
Speaker 1: he's getting picked up immediately by somebody kicks. It just
Speaker 1: happened with a Stanford tight end yesterday. Cayden Smith, the
Speaker 1: rookie fifth round draft pick of San Francisco. He was
Speaker 1: waved I guess on Saturday, and the Giants claimed him yesterday.
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is definitely getting packed. I'm okay if you
Speaker 1: say he's not active on game day, if you're not
Speaker 1: using him, but you need that guy on the roster,
Speaker 1: I would say yeah. And Jason Garrett tell us a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago about how hard it is to find
Speaker 1: tight ends that can just help you get through a game.
Speaker 1: You know that Marcus Lucas was he the guy they
Speaker 1: signed in preseason. I mean that he helped him out
Speaker 1: a lot, But that's it's a position to be becoming
Speaker 1: harder and harder to find. So if you were to
Speaker 1: make a move like that, I don't know, you are
Speaker 1: risking eight place guys, I know, but you're risking your
Speaker 1: depth in case something does happen. I know Jason hasn't
Speaker 1: missing eight plays, yeah, but I know he plays specialty
Speaker 1: that there you got, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just you know you're gonna these are
Speaker 1: the discussions you're gonna have to have. You got Blake Jarline,
Speaker 1: who's didn't work, who's worked through a foot injury too.
Speaker 1: On top of it, it doesn't sound like to me
Speaker 1: that they're moving on from Taco. It doesn't. No, they're
Speaker 1: not listening to Brian broad Us. They're not they're gonna
Speaker 1: move They're not gonna move on from Taco. But and
Speaker 1: rightfully so, if he, in fact it's going to protect
Speaker 1: them from potentially problems with Crawford's hip injury, then yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I totally get it. I totally get it. Eight
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Speaker 1: but I brought up yesterday, which is the game is
Speaker 1: not on CBS. It is on Fox, so who knows
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Speaker 1: Normally in the years gone by, if the AFC is
Speaker 1: the road team, the game is on CBS. But that
Speaker 1: has changed changed a lot era of network television. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking that there was probably a trade mate that I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys at the Jets will be a CBS game.
Speaker 1: So that's an NFC team on the road at an
Speaker 1: AFC team. So I think CBS probably made a trade
Speaker 1: there and to pick up the New York market for
Speaker 1: that game. And Romo will be doing that game, and
Speaker 1: what will it be at luke Falk at quarterback for
Speaker 1: the Jets, and then they probably traded Saints Rams, which
Speaker 1: is a CBS game, but with the sun. I know
Speaker 1: we don't have much time to talk about this, but
Speaker 1: just a minute or so. But do you think it
Speaker 1: also has something to do with Fox picking up the
Speaker 1: Thursday night packages? It probably has something to listen for
Speaker 1: you picking up Thursday nights. We're gonna you have to
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Speaker 1: yellow seats at FedEx Field. Half the way I didn't
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Speaker 1: it was a bad look for them. Speaking of the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: real quickly, Mika Fitzpatrick will not be at AT and
Speaker 1: T Stadium, and they traded him last night to the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers for a first round draft pick. There were
Speaker 1: other draft picks exchange, both sides, fourth and fifth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the big thing is, here's a Steelers team that
Speaker 1: has started the season oh and two, they've lost their
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, a future Hall of Famer, to a season
Speaker 1: ending elbow injury, and they are dealing their first round
Speaker 1: draft pick for Mica Fitzpatrick. You know what, I tell
Speaker 1: you what it's that's Kevin Colbert, the general manager there
Speaker 1: at in Pittsburgh. And Kevin is generally a pretty aggressive guy,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe he's looking at his season right
Speaker 1: now and saying, you know what, I need some help defensively.
Speaker 1: You know they haven't. I haven't. I didn't. I can't say.
Speaker 1: I sat down and watched the whole Seattle game, and
Speaker 1: you know, obviously they opened their season against New England
Speaker 1: and that wasn't very good for them. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those moves you make if you
Speaker 1: feel like you have confidence in your quarterback. You know
Speaker 1: they obviously they do. Mason Rudolph. A lot of people
Speaker 1: feel good about him. I know Dez Bryant. Come about
Speaker 1: social media. You know, Dez Bryant was tweeting about him
Speaker 1: last night. He's like, hey, fans, you're about to see
Speaker 1: what Mason Rudolph could do. You know, he's been in
Speaker 1: the system now, you know, for a couple of years,
Speaker 1: but played behind Ben Roethlisberger, and you know, has the
Speaker 1: arm talent, arm strength. I remember value waiting him as
Speaker 1: a player throwing the ball down the field, and I
Speaker 1: was pretty impressed with him throwing to Washington and those guys.
Speaker 1: They're at Oklahoma State. So we'll see. It's it could
Speaker 1: these general managers that make these moves. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's about saving jobs. I think it's about trying to
Speaker 1: save the season, much like the Cowboys tried to save
Speaker 1: their season last year when they were three and four,
Speaker 1: to go out and get a wide receiver. That's a
Speaker 1: sorry bill, that's a proud franchise that's used to winning.
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin wants to keep the message going to that
Speaker 1: we're keep playing, We're still in this thing, guys, We're
Speaker 1: not giving up. We're adding a good player. Cooper is
Speaker 1: a great example. And I tweeted to you night, Bill,
Speaker 1: I mean, Dak came in here and nobody thought he
Speaker 1: could do it. But he saved the season for this
Speaker 1: team before it even started in twenty sixteen as a rookie.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you never know, You never know. And
Speaker 1: I tweeted back at you and who the Cowboys drafted
Speaker 1: the first round the following year. We just spent a
Speaker 1: second that's right on this Taco Tuesday. Yeah, and but
Speaker 1: so clearly the Steelers believe that they're going to salvage
Speaker 1: this season and they are not going to have a
Speaker 1: top ten pick in this draft. Yes, yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: they believe. It's what they believe. Well, better dig out,
Speaker 1: They better hope this guy fixes the defense. They've given
Speaker 1: up sixty one points in two games. Yeah, but boy,
Speaker 1: two wicked games to start the season. I couldn't imagine
Speaker 1: having to deal with two elite type quarterbacks and Brady
Speaker 1: and then dealing with with Wilson. Yeah, it's just a
Speaker 1: tough way to tough way to handle things. But Seattle
Speaker 1: usually doesn't score many points. Now, they scored twenty eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you had twenty six. Yeah, sure found a way. I
Speaker 1: mean your quarterback went out a halftime, right, Yeah, Toney
Speaker 1: still scored twenty six. Yeah. Talking talking stealers. Okay and okay,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what we've talked about, what we
Speaker 1: haven't talked about. Okay, let's start Michael gallup. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think Mickey, you're hearing things because you you have the
Speaker 1: same kind of guy as I talked to. Lateral meniscus tear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were supposed to do surgery today. They would have
Speaker 1: done it sooner. They were waiting. I guess he wanted
Speaker 1: or his agent wanted a second opinion. Yeah, so it
Speaker 1: kind of helped things up. But I think the plan
Speaker 1: was to have surgery today and they would know better
Speaker 1: on the recovery time after they complete the surgery, to
Speaker 1: see just what it is the extent of it, right,
Speaker 1: because I've seen meniscus tears. Um, you know, two weeks
Speaker 1: and you're back. You know, you you miss one game
Speaker 1: and you get two weeks and then Jason Garrett said
Speaker 1: two to four weeks yesterday in his press conference. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you remember Jay Novochek before one of those playoff years. Uh,
Speaker 1: he had he had, he missed the last game of
Speaker 1: the year. They had a buy and he was ready
Speaker 1: for the first playoff game. Now everybody's different. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I had a friend at the time of the season
Speaker 1: is different too. Yeah, I had a friend that got
Speaker 1: you know, he's going for meniscus. I said, oh, heck,
Speaker 1: Noacheck was back in two weeks. We'll be playing tennis
Speaker 1: in three Well it was three months before he got back,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't a professional athlete. Yeah, so they're hopeful
Speaker 1: it's on the short end. I think it should be
Speaker 1: on the short end. But yeah, him and Woods both
Speaker 1: which Woods, excuse me, the human log Woods. But now
Speaker 1: it sounded like to me though, in listening to the
Speaker 1: general manager talk today though, that you know, those were
Speaker 1: kind of injuries that they felt like that they could
Speaker 1: and and you know, could manage. And we'll see get
Speaker 1: through this week and then see what next week brings
Speaker 1: with those guys. I don't think they particularly need to
Speaker 1: push Antoine Woods very quickly here, but you know, yeah
Speaker 1: for the Saints and all that Saints packers, yes, you
Speaker 1: need all hands on deck if you can get that
Speaker 1: one done. The same thing with Xavier Woods. I mean
Speaker 1: they're hesitant right now to put a timetable on it.
Speaker 1: I know the report this morning, I think from NFL
Speaker 1: was dot com was four to six. Yeah, but with
Speaker 1: high ankle sprains, you don't you don't really know. Um,
Speaker 1: General Mancher said that to you. Mickey said about past
Speaker 1: guys with the high cokele spr Remember it's a different position.
Speaker 1: Patrick Crayton came back in a week and played on
Speaker 1: a high ankle sprain. So it just depends on how
Speaker 1: your body responds and how painful it is, or where
Speaker 1: it's located, too, because sometimes the higher up it is,
Speaker 1: the more yeah, difficult it can be to get back.
Speaker 1: All I know is I saw him in the walking
Speaker 1: boot yesterday when he was leaving, and he was walking
Speaker 1: awfully well. And usually when you have that walking boot on,
Speaker 1: you really struggle, and it was almost like he was
Speaker 1: just he was walking along. Maybe he could play in it, well, maybe, okay.
Speaker 1: I Kyden Gates are producer, has given me a couple
Speaker 1: of different text messages about Bobby from Oklahoma, whether he
Speaker 1: is on the line or not. On the line, Bobby
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma, are you on the line? Yes, I am
Speaker 1: all right, got two questions, Um, if Austin is still
Speaker 1: on a concussion protocol by Wednesday, Uh, that's four and
Speaker 1: gallops out. That's four wide receivers. So who would be
Speaker 1: a fifth or would you roll with Pollard playing some
Speaker 1: of that role? And then would is Donovan Wilson going
Speaker 1: to be back to step in for Woods with Woods
Speaker 1: being down? Yeah? Well he will from a I think
Speaker 1: a depth stamp. Yeah, he practiced us with him and
Speaker 1: tom I think Thompson will start and then would and
Speaker 1: then Wilson both in practice last week and we're like
Speaker 1: healthy scratches if you want to say that, becoming off
Speaker 1: injury the way they were. So a fifth receiver, that's
Speaker 1: a what? Yeah, it's like you say, it's Cooper, Cobb,
Speaker 1: Smith Wilson. Uh, you know, could you go short for
Speaker 1: one game and ask Pollard to fill that role? Very well?
Speaker 1: Good on their practice squad that I've never heard about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not on. Nobody picked him, nobody's picked him up.
Speaker 1: Who's in? Yeah, you traded out guiding for Bryant Vane
Speaker 1: and I saw he was on the roster last night.
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about him. Could you do? You
Speaker 1: know what? Where he played or Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: with the Cincinnati Bengals. And you know, he's one of
Speaker 1: these guys that they really really like. You went to
Speaker 1: school at Temple and uh they like him. Actually talking
Speaker 1: to some special teams guys about him, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a really he's a tall kid, and so they liked
Speaker 1: his He's like six three, one hundred ninety eight pounds.
Speaker 1: They like the speed, they like his special team stuff.
Speaker 1: He's actually some of the stuff he's done when they've
Speaker 1: run like punt scout, punt team or block team, he's
Speaker 1: come close to block and punch just with his ability
Speaker 1: and stuff. So just kind of like a little bit
Speaker 1: of a thought of like, hey, maybe we got a
Speaker 1: guy that's tall, long and can play some special teams
Speaker 1: at receiver, which is is something that they like and
Speaker 1: that's why they're developing him on the practice squad instead
Speaker 1: of guiding right now, Okay, and then finally, do you
Speaker 1: think Ben Bright would get through waivers if they waived
Speaker 1: him to get plan on the roster? Who who which
Speaker 1: brought the offensive lineman? Bright? Oh? Night Brand, Night, Night
Speaker 1: Brand Night. Yeah, Uh no, no, because I think that
Speaker 1: in this day and age, what happens is when you
Speaker 1: put young offensive lineman on the waivers, people say he's
Speaker 1: better than this guy. He might be better than our
Speaker 1: tenth guy or a ninth guy and stuff. So I
Speaker 1: think that one would be a difficult one because actually
Speaker 1: there's some film of him playing in games where people
Speaker 1: will go back and look at their Indiana report and say, well,
Speaker 1: they played tackle at Indiana. Wait Dallas playing him at guard.
Speaker 1: He's got some flexibility to maybe do that, and we
Speaker 1: could see him play guard a little bit. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that one would be a very, very difficult
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to make that move. I
Speaker 1: just that's like Colombo pet cat, and I think he
Speaker 1: would be fighting some people if if that were to
Speaker 1: happen today. At safety, Darian Thompson was actually active last week,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's and Donvid Wilson was healthy too last night,
Speaker 1: so that kind of tells you about the pecking order there.
Speaker 1: Cavon Frasier is also active option guy there, although you're
Speaker 1: not going to put him at free safety. They like
Speaker 1: to say their safeties are interchangeable, but it's a little
Speaker 1: too interchangeable. And there are reports out there, Brian that
Speaker 1: Josh Jones is working out today. Former second round draft
Speaker 1: pick of the Packers, was released on August twenty fifth. Yea,
Speaker 1: he's a third year in the league. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and Mickey, what were some of the So he's played
Speaker 1: twenty nine games in two seasons, twelve starts. But this
Speaker 1: so they signed Amos yeah from the Bears. From the Bears,
Speaker 1: so he leap frogged him into the starting lineup and
Speaker 1: he had an unspecified injury during training camp. He also
Speaker 1: skipped OTA's and a mandatory mini camp, and I think
Speaker 1: whatever he was was bothering him. Uh. They decided that
Speaker 1: it was a bad fit for the organization, and the
Speaker 1: GM said it was a bad fit on the field
Speaker 1: and off the field. So if he if he sacrificed
Speaker 1: himself on social media or what, but just the death
Speaker 1: of all of us, right, it will be I'm telling you, okay.
Speaker 1: And then then he got and he got he got waived, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he went unclaimed. Right, So second round, former second
Speaker 1: round pick, yeah, right for in just twenty seventeen, not
Speaker 1: that long ago. Supposedly the Cowboys were going to work
Speaker 1: him out. I saw different reports twenty seventeen draft. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of players from that draft that are in
Speaker 1: the news. That kind of sounds like a guy that
Speaker 1: caught a fifty one yard touchdown last week. Devin Smith,
Speaker 1: former second round draft pick, the teams the team's not
Speaker 1: afraid to take a chance. Yeah, but he wasn't. He
Speaker 1: was in a problem, right, he was just an ACL
Speaker 1: or two saying they signed they signed Rolando McLean as
Speaker 1: go as a former first round guy and helped him
Speaker 1: out for a couple of years. And before we go
Speaker 1: to break, here a shout out to the Cedar Hill Longhorns,
Speaker 1: who have a couple of wide receivers who apparently are
Speaker 1: working out here at the start of day. And I
Speaker 1: guess it's a shout out to old miss as well,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lodge and Quincy out of Boisjo. There you go,
Speaker 1: There you go. And I wanted to say, Quincy, I
Speaker 1: knew they still have eligibility at Cedar Hill or what well,
Speaker 1: they might have eligibility in the NFL right here at
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Speaker 1: Next up, I'm Talking Cowboys. Hello Brian. Hey, guys, thank
Speaker 1: you for taking my call. Sure thing. Hey, First of all,
Speaker 1: I want to say I'll be making my first eight
Speaker 1: T and T st HI October six against the Packers,
Speaker 1: which I'm totally excited about. Um um. My question is
Speaker 1: about donthin Wilson. Is he projected like in the middle
Speaker 1: of season or next year? Plans to try to take
Speaker 1: Jeffy's spot to be because it seems like he's always
Speaker 1: around the ball when he's on the field. Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: or Donovan Wilson. Well, I mean, is he like, is
Speaker 1: he planning I mean as cowboys like thinking he might
Speaker 1: be playing on pushing Jeff He's spot eventually when he developed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would think so this Jeff Heaths last year in
Speaker 1: his contract, right, Yes, So yeah, it could be a
Speaker 1: natural that they just say, okay, we'll move on from Jeff.
Speaker 1: They love Jeff Heath though, one of one of two
Speaker 1: guys who played one hundred percent of the snaps in
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, I love Jeff Heath so as much
Speaker 1: as everybody out there hates Jeff Heath, he does have
Speaker 1: value for you. And you know, and it's a shamy
Speaker 1: didn't come up with that interception. Boy drove on the ball, great,
Speaker 1: saw it all the way. I just didn't get to
Speaker 1: finish it the way he needed to. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it might be just a naturally for them, you know,
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath. I mean to me, it seems like these
Speaker 1: guys that like to be here. Maybe he comes back
Speaker 1: on a friendly deal and all. But yeah, they have
Speaker 1: a lot of high hopes for They have a lot
Speaker 1: of high hopes for Donovan Wilson. And we all saw
Speaker 1: that in preseason and camp. So they always talk about
Speaker 1: competition as well. So if Jeff eats here, they'll be competition.
Speaker 1: If Jeff he's not here, then Donovan Wilson will be
Speaker 1: competing with somebody else for that spot. And in our
Speaker 1: final minute, we buried the lead around the NFL today.
Speaker 1: Eli Manning is no longer the starting quarterback for the
Speaker 1: New York Giants. It's the rookie Daniel Jones. I applaud
Speaker 1: the Giants for doing that, by the way, you know,
Speaker 1: trying you know, hey, don't lose the locker room. I
Speaker 1: mean it's obviously they've had two losses, you know, Dallas
Speaker 1: and Buffalo, and you know you need to find a way.
Speaker 1: If everybody saw in the preseason the way that Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones played, he gives you a little hope if you're
Speaker 1: the Giants fans, so and he gives the locker room home.
Speaker 1: So who knows. They got Tampa Bay this weekend. See
Speaker 1: ifing turn it around for them. Did he come in
Speaker 1: into the Cowboys game? He did? He was did he
Speaker 1: getting he fumbled. He sort of a deer in headlights
Speaker 1: look about him. Yeah, but he hadn't prepared that week.
Speaker 1: So he'll have a full week to prepare for Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: And we'll see how many teams out there need to
Speaker 1: trade for Eli Manning. There's a bunch that's a growing
Speaker 1: list every day, every day, right, would be a weird
Speaker 1: into his career. In fact, even in the last hour,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton not at practice for the Carolina Panthers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his brother didn't stay with the same team his old career. No,
Speaker 1: but he's right on the cusp of doing that. You know,
Speaker 1: if he wanted to hang it up after this year, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And we got time tomorrow to talk about that. And
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Miami Dolphins tomorrow too, and we'll
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